Commons:Bots/Requests/wmilbot
Wmilbot (talk · contribs)
Operator: Matanya (talk · contributions · Statistics · Recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information)
Wikimedia Israel is responsible for the operation of this bot
Please contact User:Matanya with any issues regarding this bot.
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: upload images under public domain
Automatic or manually assisted: Automatic
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): Intermittently
Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): 5 edits per minute
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): N
Programming language(s): pywikibot
Wmilbot (talk) 07:56, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Discussion
- Do you mean uploads to Category:Files from KKL uploaded by Wikimedia Israel? In that case:
- Please use language templates for Author and Source fields.
- Will be good idea to create template for JNF identifier and use {{Information}}'s source or other fields for it.
- Does source have information in languages other then Hebrew?
- I think will be good idea to upload without bot status, since images needs categorization.
- EugeneZelenko (talk)
15:06, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- @EugeneZelenko: Thanks, there is at least one more category in addition to the the KKL files (Actually, it needs to be renamed to JNF = Jewish National Fund), and might be more categories in the future. The information is available only in Hebrew.
- Please make new test run after improving descriptions. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:15, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- running now and updating all previously uploaded images, for example [1] --Wmilbot (talk) 10:46, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
- Looks fine for me. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:18, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
- I read a bit about the bot flag. I uploaded 2,700 images so far and have ~7000 more images to upload and possibly more in the future. Due to the large amount of image uploads / edits, isn't it better to do this with a bot flag? Also, at the moment I seem to have some very strict rate limiting / blocking of image uploads, I guess due to the large amount of uploads? --Wmilbot (talk) 08:11, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- I could not comment about upload rate, but many things depend on how much people will work for post-processing uploads (mostly categorizing). If you could organize project (in Hebrew Wikipedia?) and its participants will do job, it's fine to upload with bot status and fast. If you'll need to attract contributors on Commons, it's better to do without bot status and slowly. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:31, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- I read a bit about the bot flag. I uploaded 2,700 images so far and have ~7000 more images to upload and possibly more in the future. Due to the large amount of image uploads / edits, isn't it better to do this with a bot flag? Also, at the moment I seem to have some very strict rate limiting / blocking of image uploads, I guess due to the large amount of uploads? --Wmilbot (talk) 08:11, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- Looks fine for me. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:18, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
- running now and updating all previously uploaded images, for example [1] --Wmilbot (talk) 10:46, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
- Please make new test run after improving descriptions. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:15, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- @EugeneZelenko: Thanks, there is at least one more category in addition to the the KKL files (Actually, it needs to be renamed to JNF = Jewish National Fund), and might be more categories in the future. The information is available only in Hebrew.
- Who is the point of contact of this bot? Otherwise, how should we contact WMIL in case of issues with this bot? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 15:59, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- I'm uncomfortable with having edits in the bot request by the bot account only, and no directly responsible operator. --Krd 06:41, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- To whomever the bot operator is, can you explain the last 50-100 edits tagging files with {{Delete}} three times in a row, over three days, using the wrong template and failing to indicate the file desired? ~riley (talk) 06:48, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback, I tried to delete duplicated pages uploaded previously. I see that deletion request is incomplete and will fix it. I will also limit the test runs to only 1-2 items, thanks and sorry. --Wmilbot (talk) 09:35, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
Could we at least get the source field filled with an English entry as well? Otherwise this looks good to me and should move forward. --Dschwen (talk) 14:14, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- We still see manual edits from this account (e.g. in this bot request) without actually knowing which person operates this bot. I'd say this is against all common practice. --Krd 15:56, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hm, yeah, the {{Bot}} template points to the bot account itself as the operator. This is.. unconventional. I agree there needs to be a distinct operator account. Take for example the case where the bot goes haywire for some reason and we block the bot account. Who is going to do the cleanup? --Dschwen (talk) 22:47, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
@Wmilbot: Hello, if I am summarizing correctly, for this request to move forward two things need to happen:
- The individual who will be running this bot from the backend (maintaining, scripting, etc) needs to be in direct communication on this bot task using their own account.
- The bot's userpage and this request page need to be modified to reflect the designated bot operator (the aforementioned individual).
To be clear, User:Matanya listed as a "contact" is not sufficient. We require identification and communication with the person who will be starting, stopping, running and overall, maintaining the bot. If these concerns can be addressed, I see no reason for this bot request not to be approved. ~riley (talk) 03:46, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- ... you probably mean "no reason for this bot request not to be approved" :-) --Dschwen (talk) 15:37, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- ... shhh; you're quite right. ;) ~riley (talk) 19:18, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- First, every file in this archive have an ID. I can make special template for this which link to the source page. For example: I uploaded File:Yaacov Ben-Dov. Jerusalem. 1912 (D753-314).jpg in 2016. Photo ID: D753-314. It is a good idea to add such a link. the duplicate file that you uploaded - File:ירושלים - רחוב יפו-JNF020465.jpeg does not mention that id number. Just the file number as JNF Number.
- There are a lots of mistakes. including the file I have mentioned above. Author name and the date are incorrect and the description was not taken from the source.-- Geagea (talk) 11:51, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
- ... shhh; you're quite right. ;) ~riley (talk) 19:18, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Wmilbot: This request will be closed in the next 48 hours if you cannot address the community's expressed concerns as summarized for you above. Part of operating a bot is active dialogue with the community and this has not been effectively demonstrated as shown above. ~riley (talk) 02:08, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, I will be taking over the bot, moving it to wmf labs and running it. Please leave this request open a few more days and let me complete the task. Thanks matanya • talk 20:46, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- I have listed you as the operator of the bot. Thanks for stepping in. Thanks, ~riley (talk) 06:10, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you, I would appreciate granting the right now, as i would be operating the bot :) matanya • talk 22:15, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
- I have listed you as the operator of the bot. Thanks for stepping in. Thanks, ~riley (talk) 06:10, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, I will be taking over the bot, moving it to wmf labs and running it. Please leave this request open a few more days and let me complete the task. Thanks matanya • talk 20:46, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- Please make another test run. --Krd 11:30, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
- Faced a little technical issue delaying this a bit, will solve and run the test edits. matanya • talk 23:26, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
- thanks for your patience, I uploaded a couple of new images - [2] [3] and I fixed bugs with wrong date / metadata on some pages - [4] , thanks. --Wmilbot (talk) 13:51, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
- We again see manual edits from the bot account, which I consider to be in violation of COM:Bots and the above statements. --Krd 08:19, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
- OK, the migration was done, and there will be no more manual edits on this account. Please approve the bot. matanya • talk 18:05, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
- We again see manual edits from the bot account, which I consider to be in violation of COM:Bots and the above statements. --Krd 08:19, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
- thanks for your patience, I uploaded a couple of new images - [2] [3] and I fixed bugs with wrong date / metadata on some pages - [4] , thanks. --Wmilbot (talk) 13:51, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
Approved. --Krd 07:07, 29 March 2018 (UTC)