Commons:Bots/Requests/WieraleeAWB

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Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: Everything AWB can do, Changing categories, adding descriptions, adding links, but now especially for changing licence templates on file pages according to template changes, especially at Category:PD-Art (PD-old-100-1923). I have already used AWB as a pl.wikisource administrator, but I'd like to create a bot account for mass edits.

Automatic or Manually Assisted: Some parts automatic, but mostly supervised

Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): Every once in a while

Maximum edit rate (eg edits per minute): 10

Bot flag requested: (Y/N): Y

Programming Language(s): AWB seems to be written in C#

Test run => look here Wieralee (talk) 14:51, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

• Please use edit summaries which reflect actual changes. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:13, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

  @EugeneZelenko: I'm not sure I understood you correctly... Have you meant just this? Wieralee (talk) 17:56, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

  Yes, but please exclude section header. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:06, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

  @EugeneZelenko: when AWB makes only my replacement, it uses section header... but when AWB makes general fixes too, it doesn't use section header. Sometimes it's just removing an empty line only... but AWB marks it as a general fix. Wieralee (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

  AWB has an option to not use section headers. Please check the menu bar for the appropirate checkbox. --Schlurcher (talk) 15:26, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

  Please also note that the general fixes for AWB are mainly customized for the english wikipedia and do in general not apply to commons. They should never be applied unsupervised. In fact, I would recommend not using them here. --Schlurcher (talk) 15:29, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

  @Schlurcher: well, I will not make general fixes during template changing then. WieraleeAWB (talk) 15:20, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

• This could be done with the main account or the AWB account, but I don't think a bot flag should be used. --Krd 06:56, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Agree, the task description is faily open. I do not think a bot flag should be used for these type of tasks. A dedicated AWB account without bot flag seems appropriate to me. --Schlurcher (talk) 15:26, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

@Krd and Schlurcher: I've received many comments due to mass changes without a bot flag... that's why I decided to start this procedure. There're more than 500 000 files in this category... and it's not the only one such a category... but OK, if you think it's better to make it using my main account, it's much easier for me. Thank you very much :) WieraleeAWB (talk) 15:19, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

@EugeneZelenko and Krd: I am not sure that we want extra half a milion edits in RC. Ankry (talk) 19:09, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

I don't think that RC is a factor here as long as the account is autopatrolled. More important is if the edits shall occur on watchlists. I'd currently say yes, and we won't anyway botflag an account that is used for manual edits as done here. --Krd 10:57, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Still agreeing to Krd. The request includes Everything AWB can do, which is far to open to be perform without being noticed on watchlists. If the requester is willing to narrow the scope to specific high volume edits, I am happy to review them and the discussion would be completely different. Also notice that single high volume category moves could be outsourced to CommonsDelinker bot, see User:CommonsDelinker/commands --Schlurcher (talk) 12:11, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@Schlurcher: CommonsDelinker is skipping really big tasks. Look, what it's doing with Category:Molluscs at Naturalis from the Rijksmuseum van Natuurlijke Historie. It hangs from September... and day by day it's skipped... and nobody care. It will be the same with "PD-expired" categories, I'm afraid.

I've based my bot's request on another successful request Commons:Bots/Requests/MultichillAWB. I didn't expect a controversial content there... Wieralee (talk) 18:02, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

@Wieralee: @Multichill was already an Admin, and so had sufficient access to approve his own AWB bot.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 18:13, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oh, it's bigger problem... I'm not an admin on Commons, so I have AWB automatic and half-automatic editions on Commons blocked... It means that without a bot permissions I can do my task only if I'll do it manually... it means a year of a hard work... WieraleeAWB (talk) 10:44, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

  We should separate the two different rights. To be able to perform automatic edits in AWB, you need to be listed under bots in Commons:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage. As a general rule, only approved bots will be listed there. In case you will not get approved for the wikimedia bot flag, you should highlight on the AWB request page that you ask for AWB bot rights without wikimedia bot flag (I think the outcome of this wikimedia bot right discussion here is still completely open, so please give us some more time for consideration). Exceptions are possible in rare cases. If you can convince the community you will be able to perform automatic edits in AWB even without wikimedia bot flag. I speak here from personal experience, as my regular username is an approved AWB bot. --Schlurcher (talk) 12:11, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

  @Schlurcher: It would be very convenient to have my regular username be an approved AWB bot.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 18:13, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

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• I think this requests deserves a new assessment after the changes to the proposed scope. I think the bot could be approved for mass changes to templates, categories, adding descriptions and adding links. Wieralee should, however, not use this bot for general AWB tasks (that do not result in a substantial amount of changes) --Schlurcher (talk) 10:53, 21 January 2019 (UTC)