Commons:Bots/Requests/OsmHydrantBot

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OsmHydrantBot (talk · contribs)

Operator: OsmHydrant (talk · contribs)

The bot is planned to be operated by the creator of osmhydrant.org. Best way to get in contact is via: https://www.osmhydrant.org/en/contact

Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought:

  • upload new images (and new version of images)
  • change descriptions of existing images
    • for renaming
    • for rotating requests
    • for nominations for deletion

Automatic or manually assisted: Automatic (unsupervised, although regularly checked)

Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): Continuous

Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): 20 actions per minute

Bot flag requested: (Y/N): Y

Programming language(s): PHP

OsmHydrant (talk) 17:22, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

  • Please give more details on the scope of the request. Please note:
    • Image uploads are normally expected to be performed under the main account
    • Note that images can be deleted only by admins and CC licenses are irrevocable.
    • For these type of tasks, the edit rate should be limited to 5 actions per minute
  • --Schlurcher (talk) 10:58, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your feedback:

  • I can use the main account for uploading, but I fear that 5-10 actions per minutes might be too less, given a usage of recently 136 users in the last 30 days, editing 3000 nodes and possibly uploading/updating images for each of these nodes. Source: http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-changesets?comment=OsmHydrant#3/31.65/-49.04
  • In the upload field, I demand users to not upload people, license plates, nor copyright-infringing material. However, sometimes people upload groups of people, cars without blurring anything and screenshots from Google Street View. How can I get rid of it besides 'Nomination for deletion'?
  • --OsmHydrantBot (talk) 16:48, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I'm still struggling to understand the scope of this request. Currently I understand that OsmHydrant is an Open Street Map project to flag fire fighting facilities. The process includes an option to upload pictures (with a CC-BY-SA 2.0 license). This option is, however, rarely used. Thus, only a fraction of the edits will include media files that would be in scope for commons. The media files are not uploaded to Open Street Map nor OsmHydrant but to OsmHydrant Flickr Account located at: https://www.flickr.com/photos/132033145@N08/
This account currently gives around 9'000 images. So in other words, you want to import around 9'000 images from your Flickr account (supplemented by metadata from OsmHydrant). The goal would also be to keep these files (and potential others) updated. Please correct me.
It is the uploaders responsibility to ensure that the files comply to commons. Thus, you would need to ensure this before uploading. Once uploaded the only way to delete them would be to nominate them for deletion or speedy deletion. For copyright violations, please use the corresponding template. This will ensure that these issues get addressed rapidly. For this reason we also keep the edit rate small, as otherwise it is impossible to comply with this. Do you have a number of how many of the edits on OsmHydrant would result in a file update on Commons? --Schlurcher (talk) 09:00, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Schlurcher: Exactly, you understood the situation well.
I want to keep old images (and delete the Flickr account). New image uploads will be provided via CC-BY-SA 4.0 in future.
From 185.000 modifications on OpenStreetMap nodes, 9000 images were provided, which is around 5%. Per day, the most was 150 photos so far.
Example calculation for hourly limit: If one person walks through the streets on a sunny afternoon, with hydrants every 200m, possibly 4km of hourly walking distance, 2 photos per hydrant, we would have 40 photo uploads per hour & person. In rare case of 4 persons doing so (or with jogging/cycling persons), we would have 160 uploads per hour. This is ~4 actions per minute. However, if people are sitting at home and rotating previously uploaded images, it might be more than those 4 actions per minute.
Does this fit into small edit rates?
@Krd: Is the operator information fine in that way?
OsmHydrant (talk) 17:22, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Approved. --Krd 07:35, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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