Commons:Bots/Requests/Commons Deletions Notification Bot

Commons Deletions Notification Bot (talk · contribs)

Operator: Harideepan (talk · contributions · Statistics · Recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information) (assign permissions)

The Bot notifies the Wikipedia article when the images associated with them are 1. about to be deleted 2. deleted 3. nominated not to be deleted

Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: 1.Adding a section to talk page of articles 2.Detecting deletion of images in Commons 3.Access to list of articles using a particular image

Unsupervised Automatic or manually assisted: Automatic

Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): 1.When an image is nominated for deletion 2.When an image is deleted 3.When an image is nominated not to be deleted

Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): Depends upon the nomination requests

Bot flag requested: (Y/N): N

Programming language(s): Python

Harideepan (talk) 08:48, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

• Does this bot do any edit to Commons? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:52, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
• Is the code already complete? For which Wikis will it be used? At which server will it be running? Can we have the possibility for additional maintainers? --Krd 09:09, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
•  Info: See also phab:T167614, different bot? Harideepan, what's the name of your other account? It's quite uncommon that a new user requests permission for running a bot just a few days after having created his account. --Achim (talk) 11:01, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
• This bot does edit to Wikipedia articles' talk page when images associated with them is nominated for deletion. Adds a section indicating the file is nominated for deletion.Zhuyifei1999 --Harideepan (talk) 11:44, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

  If the bot will not perform any edit or logged action on Wikimedia Commons (any page under the domain of commons.wikimedia.org), it does not need a bot flag here, unless for extraordinary reasons. You want to get the bot approvals on the wikis the bot will edit on. As for a 'source' of images-about-to-be-deleted, you may either monitor the category or the RC, either directly and periodically polling the API, or receive "events" from EventStreams. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:51, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

  Thanks for kind information --Harideepan (talk) 14:04, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

• A similar bot already exists for fr Wikipedia see phab:T167614 --Harideepan (talk) 11:44, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
• Achim I am actually new here. I chose this to do as a final year project. --Harideepan (talk) 11:44, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

  I'll recommend that you begin the coding ASAP. Bot approvals will require you to perform test runs; exceptions are very rare. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:51, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

• Krd This bot will be used for en Wikipedia. I have no idea about the server to be used. I am single here, additional maintainers are welcome. --Harideepan (talk) 11:44, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

  (Edit conflict) For English Wikipedia the relevant bot approval requests is en:WP:BRFA. The rule of thumb: apply bot permissions where the bot will edit on, and the permissions do not usually extend cross-wiki. As for the server to use, I recommend Toolforge, where the majority of community-developed bots are running (the learning curve may be steep but you can always welcome to consult the experienced (via mailing lists, IRC, or technical village pumps / help desks. (Note on IRC, quote #pywikibot channel notice: "Don't ask to ask, ask. Please be patient for an answer. Do not private message unless asked." The majority of the time everyone will be idling, any you will have to be patient till someone sees your message.)); and besides, you get free great-uptime hosting :) ). As for more maintainers, oh well... I wish this is a GSoC or GCI project where the foundation or the community will supply mentors. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:51, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

  Thank you so much for your info

• Links for convenience: fr:Utilisateur:NaggoBot and fr:Catégorie:Page contenant un fichier proposé à la suppression sur Commons. --Achim (talk) 12:42, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
• At meta:Special:Diff/17567822 you speak of "we". Who will be the operator of this bot? Is the account shared between multiple persons? --Krd 12:51, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

  We are group of four members. But the others couldn't actively invlove in this.--Harideepan (talk) 14:05, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

  Just curious, do you have a due date? It sounds like you are doing a school project. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:43, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

  No it's a CSE final year project.Can I know What made you to think it's a school project?. We have final review on January 17th Harideepan (talk) 16:05, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

• How do you find the files that are subject to deletion? Why is a bot flag at Commons needed? --Krd 12:51, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

  I have to work on it. I misunderstood bot flag, I think it's not needed --Harideepan (talk) 14:04, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

  You should be able to run the bot without explicit approval from Commons (though explicit approval is required for any wiki that it edits), as long as no edit or log action is made here. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:43, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

  Sorry I couldn't understand. What do you mean by "as long as no edit or log action is made here"? Harideepan (talk) 16:15, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

As long as your bot is just querying databases or using Commons' pages in "read-only" mode no approval nor bot flag is needed here on Commons. --Achim (talk) 16:28, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

•  Oppose To be honest, i see no need. --Steinsplitter (talk) 08:12, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

• @Harideepan: There appear to be a lot of unaddressed issues above. Please elaborate your further intentions. --Krd 10:59, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

•  Oppose But actually, as far as I see no bot flag is needed. --Schlurcher (talk) 21:51, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Could we close this please? The requester has understood that discussion about any bot flag is one for another project and of itself it's a good small improvement and can be encouraged. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 13:37, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I get that right. I'd close this a stale as there is no more feedback from the operator. Does that match your suggestion? --Krd 14:12, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Closed as stale. --Krd 12:58, 29 January 2018 (UTC)