Commons:Batch uploading/ian.umces.edu

ian.umces.edu

http://ian.umces.edu offers 3251 free high resolution images and 2544 free vector symbols licensed under CC BY 3.0. --Leyo 06:59, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

A worthy set of images. I was able to download 2546 SVG files in a single ZIP file, but matching it with metadata is more challenging. --Jarekt (talk) 03:37, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Are the file names in the ZIP file self-explanatory or rather meaningless? --Leyo 09:07, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Filenames identify source and have few words about content, see for example here. For SVG files, I think we need to write some scraping software to create a spreadsheet with:

• "Author" and "Author Company"
• Title and description
• "Date created"
• URL (to be used to link back to the source image)
• "Album name" and "Keywords" can be useful for choosing categories
• "Filename" (to match it with the downloaded file)

I am at the moment rather busy with Commons:Batch uploading/Web Gallery of Art but if someone can gather the metadata I can upload the files. --Jarekt (talk) 15:05, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

As according to our discussion here (in German), these files additionally need to be fixed to change numbers that omit the leading zero (like .12345) to include this zero ( ---> 0.12345), else wikipedias renderer doesn't parse them correctly. (the substitution can also be of the type -.12345 ---> -0.12345). This is just in case someone very suddenly rushes in to upload these :) Iridos (talk) 23:24, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

All of the SVGs in this library were originally created with Illustrator, although most were run through SCOUR, which I now see strips leading zeros. Does anyone know of any other SVG parsers that have a problem without leading zeros? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adrianbj (talk • contribs)

All the SVG files already contain DC metadata. There is also an online spreadsheet and excel version of metadata available.

Links to searchable database of all images/symbols and custom download builder for all the symbols in SVG, AI and PNG in a zip archive.

Just read through a translated version of the german discussion. Not sure why that virus didn't rasterize well. The PNG previews and downloadable versions on the IAN website were all created automatically with iMagick and rSVG, although problems like you are seeing did occur with various older versions of iMagick and rSVG. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adrianbj (talk • contribs)

It seems they changed their licensing terms; the new license doesn't allow redistribution or sales, which makes it unacceptable for Commons. I guess the upload could still happen since CC licenses are irrevocable, but I imagine they wouldn't appreciate it much. The best solution would be for someone to contact them and ask them to change it back to CC BY. InverseHypercube 07:51, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about the licensing change - we do rely on this resource to bring traffic to our website, so we would really appreciate honoring of our new license. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adrianbj (talk • contribs)

Thanks for commenting! However, if the images are licensed under CC-BY, we would be required to attribute (and link back to) your website, so no traffic loss would occur. In fact, since CC-BY would allow us to transfer images from your website, having your images on high-traffic sites such as Wikipedia would increase hits to your site, since they would all link to it. InverseHypercube 04:37, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

A custom license tag such as in Category:Custom license tags might be used. It might contain a link to the website and or a direct link to the respective image (example). --Leyo 09:32, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

I'd like to make the preview sized versions of all our images (photos and vector illustrations) available on Commons with a custom license tag (and attribution) and a direct link to the respective image on our site where users can register (free) and download the full resolution / vector (SVG) versions. Almost all the photos (JPG) have metadata embedded. All the SVG files also have metadata, but the preview PNGs do not because of the metadata issues with the PNG format. As I mentioned above, there is an automated spreadsheet available from our site with all the metadata. We are constantly adding images to the library. Is there any possibility to automatically update commons if I create a web service (XML/JSON) of all the images and metadata?

That sounds great, and it can definitely be done. However, as I understand copyright law, by licensing the previews under CC-BY, for example, you would also be licensing the SVG files under the same license, since they do not meet the threshold of originality over the previews. While we might only upload the previews, I don't think you could stop others from distributing the SVG files. InverseHypercube 17:35, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

I guess I was thinking of a custom license, rather than CC-BY, as suggested by Leyo. Would that work?

I still think you would be effectively licensing the SVG files under the same license. InverseHypercube 17:49, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

I understand what you are saying, but if the custom license says that users cannot redistribute or sell and that they must provide attribution even for the preview PNGs, would that work? Maybe this is too problematic for posting to Commons? We are actually also wanting to add the option for users to purchase the right to use our images without attribution, because at the moment, there are many cases when they can't use them due to the attribution requirement. We think this dual licensing model will make them more useful for more people. I'd be curious if anyone has any further suggestions.

No, that wouldn't be allowed on Commons. See Commons:Licensing#Acceptable licenses; non-commercial licenses are not permitted. However, if you licensed the SVGs under a license that required attribution for redistribution, it would apply to the PNGs too. InverseHypercube 22:14, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Looks like I was wrong about not being able to license the preview images and the vector versions under separate licenses; the community consensus seems to be that you can. See Commons:Village_pump/Copyright/Archive/2012/01#CC_BY-SA_3.0_and_the_original_image_quality. InverseHypercube 18:38, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

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