Commons:Batch uploading/Claremont Colleges Digital Library

Claremont Colleges Digital Library

• Source to upload from: https://ccdl.libraries.claremont.edu/digital/collection/bce
  • Do the media URLs follow a pattern? Yes
  • Does the site have an API? Not sure
  • What else could ease uploading? (is the site valid XHTML, do they use a WCM…?) Not sure
  • Did you contact the site owner? No

• Describe the works to be uploaded in detail (audio files, images by …):

All photos in the Boynton Collection of Early Claremont, all of which are dated prior to 1925. If it's not too much trouble, it would also be very nice to have all photos in the Claremont Colleges Photo Archive and City of Claremont History Collection dated prior to 1925.

• Which license tag(s) should be applied? {{PD-US-expired}}

• Is there a template that could be used on the file description pages? Do you think a special template should be created? Not sure

Sdkb (talk) 07:42, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Opinions

Were these photos published prior to 1925, or merely taken prior to then? Publication needs to be pre-1925 for {{PD-US-expired}} to be allowed. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 08:25, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

@Pi.1415926535: The about page states The collection ... is believed to have come to Pomona College included with the papers of Charles Luther Boynton, a Pomona College alumnus and missionary to China. Boynton himself graduated from Pomona around 1900. I can't say for sure the year his papers came into possession of the college, though (which I assume would be the date of publication?). The library would probably tell us if we asked, though. Sdkb (talk) 05:47, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Acquisition by the college would not be considered publication for the purposes of copyright. Only use in a publicly released printed material, or on a webpage, is considered publication. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:48, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

@Pi.1415926535: does being added to a library not count as publication? The collection has presumably been housed in the special collections department and publicly available to anyone who requested access since it was obtained. Sdkb (talk) 20:55, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

A collection merely being in a library does not constitute publication, by my reading. Under copyright law, publication is the distribution of copies or phonorecords of a work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership or by rental, lease, or lending. Offering to distribute copies or phonorecords to a group of people for purposes of further distribution, public performance, or public display also constitutes publication. (From here.) Is the death date of Boynton known? If it was before 1950, then {{PD-old-70}} applies. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

@Pi.1415926535: According to here, Boynton died in 1961, so not quite. The above would seem to me to indicate being in a library counts, though, because of lending, which is what a library does. Sdkb (talk) 19:11, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

A collection in the library would be the originals (not copies) and is likely for use only in the library (not lending). I understand that you wish to have this collection available on Commons, but from the available evidence I do not believe the images are public domain. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:58, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

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