Category talk:Tim Abraham

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notability? Google have only this ([1])? One red link in enwiki, but different person. Estopedist1 (talk) 08:27, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

UK Director International Trade Policy, Department of Trade and Industry seems prominent enough that I don't think should be questioned anyway, even if notability was a requirement. - Themightyquill (talk) 13:41, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed with Tuvalkin (talk · contribs), it is not a question of notability. If we have files depicting a subject, a proper category for that subject is warranted. If the files are out of scope or such, then they need to be deleted through proper process before the category can be eliminated. That said, I think Themightyquill (talk · contribs) makes a good point and there is no question this individual is public enough that these images and category are appropriate. Josh (talk) 20:23, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed to, if the files are outside scope they need to be deleted, then this will be deleted as empty, I don't think notability is an issue considering there are 4 images and more could be added at anytime. Crouch, Swale (talk) 12:23, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
And given as noted the red link (at w:Gutter Anthems) maybe we should disambiguate this category. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:36, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I would maybe say notability isn't completely irrelevant for categories because of verifiability, BLP violations, hoaxes etc. Categories like a person's occupation and birth/death dates would presumably go on the files in the absence of a category anyway. Surprisingly we don't have a guideline like w:Wikipedia:Overcategorization (though Commons:Categories#Categorization tips does say "even if there exist more images of an ordinary person or incidental event, it is practical to group them into special category and categorize the category instead of categorize all similar images individually to identical set of parent categories") note that w:WP:SUBCAT is the equivalent of COM:OVERCAT. I plan at some point to write an essay on category notability but in most cases its probably not relevant since any of a category's files can probably be deleted at DR and then the category can be speedily deleted as empty. Things like the number of images in the category should probably count, if a category has 10 or more images or has a sub category it should probably be classified as being notable for example. Crouch, Swale (talk) 12:09, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

stale discussion. No consensus to delete. Notability-notice is added to the category in question Estopedist1 (talk) 13:59, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]