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Something tells me this is not all that active but ...:) I came to this via a roundabout route. The "practice" for England is (largely) "Towns & villages in xxx" which I have adopted/used etc. I have presumed (in English counties) that the cities would be on the top level county page I worked on that basis. Then I find Scotland (& I think Wales) are "organised" rather differently. It is an are that I am working on so feel free to nudge me (or post here).
Is there any good definition of city? In Germany, a city a settlement that has city rights. If there's something like that in the UK, you'd have a good inclusion criterion for the cities in xxx categories. All other settlements could go into towns and villages in xxx categories. Both of these can then go into settlements in xxx categories. I don't think it makes a lot of sense to differentiate between towns and villages, as it will often be a matter of personal taste where to categorize a settlement. Naturally, every city and village will be in a category corresponding to its county. I can't make up my mind, however, whether it makes sense to refine the county categories into cities in .... and towns and villages in ..., or just to create settlements in xxx categories for all counties. I guess it depends on the number of settlements.
As for the bays, beaches and coasts: I've never really thought about that topic, but if you see a way to clean up the categories, go ahead and do it. --rimshottalk19:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
For the UK cities are mostly defined by having a cathedral though I think the government may have introduced a populist vote on one or two new ones.....
However - I think maybe I'll start at Category:United Kingdom and see where I get to before I retire :)
I do agree with the "All other settlements could go into towns and villages in xxx categories" bit. That seems to be fairly common with UK ones and if there are too many (there are in some places) then "villages in xxx" becomes a sub of "towns & villages in xxx".
From a uk counties perspective there is always the city that is the home of the county authority, & to me, that belongs in the high level cat for now.
Ooops - fair enough - consider that a "Towns in Scotland" & a "Villages in Scotland" to go - been one of those days. I'll get to in in the next few days I hope. I'm just realising how complex trying to organise cats are :) --Herbytalk thyme16:06, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just as well I watchlisted this :) I've been trying to sort out some UK higher level cats for a while. I've had some other issues to deal with but would hope to get back to this work as soon as I can. Let me know if I can help. If/wehn you/we do sort it I suggests a "soft redirect" (Template:Category redirect) of this one for a while rather than deletion FWIW. Cheers --Herbytalk thyme14:38, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It will become a disambiguation rather than a redirect as its splitting into three - I put redirects on only to have them removed, see [1]! But yes, I have made a start on Scotland, if I get through that then I may look at England/Wales/NI as well. I'd appreciate another worker - let me know what you can look at. Regards, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 11:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've been looked at overloaded high level UK cats where there is certainly some duplicate categorisation (people by occupation is a nightmare :)). However I am also trying to work my way "up" from England county level trying to standardise cats and again trying to reduce over populated cats. For example some has done a great job with Derbyshire but every tiny village is in the higher level cat. I've also been working on "Geography of " at England, Wales & county levels when I get a chance. Cheers --Herbytalk thyme12:22, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This has been open for over a year and untouched for nine months so I'm simply closing it. It looks like the issue has been addressed to people's satisfaction. Wknight94talk02:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
They all exist one next to the other under same parent (Populated places), and at first and second glance they don't appear to justify their independence. Serious. It looks so inconsistant. Is there any structured hierarchy within them, which I didn't get on to? My guess is that it isn't meant to happen like this, and it just developed with each of the sub-categories apart, eventually all roof-meeting in Category:Populated places. Let me know maybe I'm getting it incorrect and entries that match the "Settlement"-definition are fundamentally different from others falling under "Villages", and "Cities"-entries are by no means identical to those which may populate "Cities and villages". Thanks, and sorry for bugging Orrlingtalk10:02, 21 January 2012 (UTC) Posted on Village pump[reply]