Category talk:Lackschale
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Lacquerware???[edit]
Is this lacquerware? The objects in this category seem more likely to have been painted with high gloss modern paints than lacquer. - Takeaway (talk) 17:47, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- In my opinion yes, the category is the german word "Lackschale", and this are cups with lacquer. maybe that the upper categories aren't quite correct but these "Coated products", "Crafts", "Decorative arts by material" --Jörgens.Mi Talk 19:50, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Joergens.mi: I think that the German "lack" should in this case be understood as "varnish" or "glossy paint", and not as true "lacquer" which is what Category:Lacquerware is for. Perhaps Category:Varnish and Category:Decorative objects would be better categories for Category:Lackschale. And it should also best be renamed to something English because I don't think that these glossy bowls are specifically German either. Category:Varnished bowls woud seem correct. - Takeaway (talk) 20:18, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- No thats no german art, this is from china. As you can see here https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/lack the naming is correct. --Jörgens.Mi Talk 20:29, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Joergens.mi: Your translation example shows 5 slightly different things in English, which are all of them translated as "lack" in German. In Dutch the word "lak" is also used in the same way as in German, where it usually denotes "varnish" or "glossy paint". In English, it doesn't work that way. "Lacquer" in English usually denotes true lacquer and not just any shiny paint or enamel. In Commons, we have to work with English words and meanings. - Takeaway (talk) 20:35, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- please read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacquer, especially: "In modern techniques, lacquer means a range of clear or coloured wood finishes that dry by solvent evaporation or a curing process that produces a hard, durable finish. The finish can be of any sheen level from ultra matte to high gloss, and it can be further polished as required. It is also used for "lacquer paint", which is a paint that typically dries better on a hard and smooth surface." It is nice to have a private definition but it should be congruent to the article. --Jörgens.Mi Talk 08:34, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Joergens.mi: I guess that to preserve the collection of images which show true lacquer, we'll now have to change the names of the existing categories to reflect that. Or create a new category for non-lacquer-based paints just for your category lackschale. How do you suggest to name your category in English by the way? - 09:43, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- lacquer bowl --Jörgens.Mi Talk 17:46, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Joergens.mi: I guess that to preserve the collection of images which show true lacquer, we'll now have to change the names of the existing categories to reflect that. Or create a new category for non-lacquer-based paints just for your category lackschale. How do you suggest to name your category in English by the way? - 09:43, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- please read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacquer, especially: "In modern techniques, lacquer means a range of clear or coloured wood finishes that dry by solvent evaporation or a curing process that produces a hard, durable finish. The finish can be of any sheen level from ultra matte to high gloss, and it can be further polished as required. It is also used for "lacquer paint", which is a paint that typically dries better on a hard and smooth surface." It is nice to have a private definition but it should be congruent to the article. --Jörgens.Mi Talk 08:34, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Joergens.mi: Your translation example shows 5 slightly different things in English, which are all of them translated as "lack" in German. In Dutch the word "lak" is also used in the same way as in German, where it usually denotes "varnish" or "glossy paint". In English, it doesn't work that way. "Lacquer" in English usually denotes true lacquer and not just any shiny paint or enamel. In Commons, we have to work with English words and meanings. - Takeaway (talk) 20:35, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- No thats no german art, this is from china. As you can see here https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/lack the naming is correct. --Jörgens.Mi Talk 20:29, 19 February 2018 (UTC)