Category talk:Images from Fortepan

License laundering

Be aware of possible problematic licensing atitude of the project. Verify legal status if possible. Do not believe website "license". --grin ✎ 08:56, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Random entry-poin access to the category

I added {{Category TOC}} to the cat page but most files are keyed in a such a way that this ToC is almost useless. I’ll add a jump link table hardlinked to http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Images_from_Fortepan&filefrom={{{PAGENAME}}}%0Ag (example for "g"; will do it for a-z). Stop me now if that's a bad idea. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 15:56, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

I have no strong objection, but the indexing key is to the Fortepan image number (e.g. Fortepan.000527). This order will be related to when they were uploaded to Fortepan, which is probably useful. The Fortepan prefix in the key, also ensures that the few hundred pre existing files in the category will be easy to see. The other useful ways they could be searched would be by tag, place_tag or year. As this information is structured in the image pages, they can be listed out using the inbuilt search engine. The main category is a bucket category, and as I expect there to end up being over 50,000 files, I doubt that surfing this category will be useful in practice regardless of the sort order. --Fæ (talk) 16:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

The new ToC I cobbled, as the regular one that I had added before, ignores the keying by Fortepan number. While I’m not a fan of keying for individual files, as opposed to subcats, it is justified for this parent cat (but as default sort? I think not). The random entry access I mean to enable with a ToC linkset is to allow people (like me!) who are not wise enough to accept that some cats are too big to browse. Idle, lazy browsing will bring to my (and others’, I hope) attention random items I can pick up and work on adding some categories or otherwise improve; without a ToC, that kind of attention gets focused on the 1st or 2nd 200 items, which is not good for a cat that’s not supposed to be dissiminated. Of course like this it will still favour, say, Vaaaaa.jpg over Vzzzzz.jpg, but 34 times less so. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 14:09, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Disappearing CC-BY-SA

The source Web page for this photo looked like https://web.archive.org/web/20190130191832/http%3A//www.fortepan.hu/%3Fimg%3D93230 (as of January 30, 2019) and explicitly declared CC-BY-SA-3.0. Now it is http://fortepan.hu/?image_id=93230&language=en-US having nothing about license, and the site doesn’t contain a clear licensing clause at all. Is it a pretext for additions to {{Fortepan}} stating some Commons’ position about the mishap? Should license reviewers be alerted? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 18:06, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

The Hungarian version’s Mi ez? / Rólunk popup still contains the license, so the conditions haven’t changed. It may be worth writing them an email about this. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 18:54, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Different IDs?

I've noticed that some of the Fortepan images have wrong IDs set as parameter in the Fortepan Template. One example is File:Filming,_stadium,_movie_camera_Fortepan_20195.jpg. Template and File name have 20195 as ID. But at the Fortepan web site, the pic with with ID 20195 is a completely different one. The correct ID is shown in the "source" URL: 30034. I assume it's ok to modify the ID parameter of the Fortepan Template in such cases? Since otherwise, the "Information" Link points to the wrong pic at Fortepan. What about the file name? Should it be adapted to the correct ID, too? How to proceed in such cases? --Fl.schmitt (talk) 10:20, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Here's one example where i've modified the ID according to the ID at the Fortepan page: File:1965 Fortepan 30796.jpg (but with "original" file name). --Fl.schmitt (talk) 10:42, 11 April 2021 (UTC)