Category talk:Hercules Farnese

Replicas of Hercules Farnese

The category "replicas of H. F." is wrong: All the photos we see here are of replicas, since the original Hercules made by Lysippos is lost. There are a lot of copies or adaptions made in Roman antiquity, that one of the former collection Farnese is the most famous one. That's the reason why this kind of representation is called "typus farnese". The category "replicas" does not make sense: Replicas of what? Copies of the copy? That one in the Napoli Museum ist the "Hercules Farnese", all others are "typus Farnese". --Olaf Pung (talk) 10:21, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

In theory you're right, especially for ancient Greek statues. The originals of them are all lost 95 or 99 % ! So we know this works of art thanks the copies that Roman people made. So we say "Doryphoros of Policlet" or "Hercules (Farnese) of Lysippos", but we know very well that they are only Roman copies. So conventionally we say for these statues that they are (ancient) Roman copies of (ancient) Greek works. And for modern copies we speak of replicas. Do you understand the difference? For paintings instead if we speak of replicas, they are copies of the same painter. For example of this painting there are quite 50 replicas painted by the same author, today in all the world museums and private collections. --DenghiùComm (talk) 20:36, 11 January 2012 (UTC)