Category talk:Bread

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Category:Breads

See also: Commons:Categories for discussion/2013/09/Category:Breads and religion.

See also: Commons:Categories for discussion/2016/03/Category:Bread in paintings.

I think this very broad category should be called Category:Bread. it was turned into a redirect in 2008, but some of the subcategories here fit better in the singular: Bread baking, Bread mold, Bread crumbs‎, Bread-related equipment‎ . "Breads" should be reserved for particular breads. similar structure at Category:Cheese. If this was a less important category, i might just swap it all around on my own, but i wanted some consensus. if others agree to this, i think i just need to rearrange the sub cats for each of these (make Breads a sub cat of bread, bread baking a subcat of bread etc), no name change/merge type action needed. (would there be a loss of history if i did this?) I also plan to clean up the 500 images and place them in more precise categories, as i did at coffee, chocolate and cheese. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:46, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

 Agree I can see the logic in that. -- Deadstar (msg) 08:20, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

 Comment Does anything happened? Or will anything happen? ← Körnerbrötchen » ✉ 16:51, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

 Comment I agree that the base category should be bread, but I'm not sure it's worth keeping Category:Breads around as anything more than a redirect. I'm not sure what the structure of Category:Cheese was in 2013, but Category:Cheeses is now just a redirect. It might be worth creating Category:Breads by name, but even that I'm not sure of. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:32, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Mercurywoodrose, Deadstar, Körnerbrötchen, would you care to resolve this issue?

1) Are you okay with redirecting Category:Breads to Category:Bread?

2) If yes,should this category's sub-categories also be renamed accordingly? * Category:Breads by ingredient > Category:Bread by ingredient, Category:Breads by country‎ > Category:Bread by country‎, etc.

3) Do you think we should have Category:Bread(s) by name as a meta-category for sub-categories like Category:Simit‎, Category:Borodinsky bread‎, Category:Pumpernickel‎, etc? Or is Category:Breads by ingredient sufficient?

Thanks - Themightyquill (talk) 08:31, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi. Here's my 2c.

1) [OK] Category:Breads to Category:Bread. I think "Breads" should be redirected "Category:Breads by name" (plural) rather than to "Bread". Plural as we're talking specific, countable, distinguishable types of bread. However, I can see trouble where things like "Category:Wheat bread" should not appear in "by name" (IMO), as it is a broad category of breads, but you can argue it is the name of a bread.

2a) [No] Category:Breads by country > Category:Bread by country. I think we are looking at specific, countable, distinguishable types of bread by country in this category.

2b) [OK] Category:Breads by ingredient > Category:Bread by ingredient as we're not talking specific breads, but all bread.

2c) [OK] Category:Breads by appearance > Category:Bread by appearance

2d) [OK] Category:Breads by preparation method > Category:Bread by preparation method

2e) [OK] Category:Breads in art > Category:Bread in art

2f) [OK] Category:Cross sections of breads‎ > Category:Cross sections of bread

2g)  Comment Category:Breads and religion - Should that not be Category:Bread in religion? Otherwise I think it should change to the singular anyway.

2h) [OK] Category:Breads in paintings > Category:Bread in paintings

3) [OK] Category:Breads by name - agreed. -- Deadstar (msg) 11:09, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

 Comment This might be of a later concern: Remove all "loaves" categories to read "bread" (ie Category:Cabbage loaves)

I might have missed a few there. I hope this helps to move this forward. thanks -- Deadstar (msg) 10:27, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

all your suggestions make sense to me, including bread in religion.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:25, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Jacklee, Mattes, SpiderMum - seeing that you have created some of the categories mentioned above, would you care to comment? Leaving this up for another week. Thanks -- Deadstar (msg) 09:30, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

• Imho redirecting Category:Breads to Category:Bread is a good idea. Not sure about all of the subcategories. SpiderMum (talk) 16:28, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Any particular reason, Spidermum? -- Deadstar (msg) 05:52, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

OK. After reading the above again after a long week (ahem) I will request the below changes ONLY and leave the rest as it is for someone else to request if the issue arises again.

Rename Category:Breads to Category:Breads by name (208 entries moved, 0 to go) Warning: Username of requester missing (user parameter). For transparency and to prevent abuse, please add your username. Breads;Breads by name;r; Plural as we're talking specific, countable, distinguishable types of bread. Cat to sit under "Bread" which is then a catch-all for bread-related categories ---- Deadstar (msg) 16:13, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Rename Category:Breads and religion to Category:Bread in religion (17 entries moved, 0 to go) Warning: Username of requester missing (user parameter). For transparency and to prevent abuse, please add your username. Breads and religion;Bread in religion;r; in line with other items in relation to religion -- Deadstar (msg) 16:13, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Rename Category:Breads in paintings to Category:Bread in paintings (93 entries moved, 0 to go) Warning: Username of requester missing (user parameter). For transparency and to prevent abuse, please add your username. Breads in paintings;Bread in paintings;r; Clearer to include half-breads, bread slices, crumbs etc. -- Deadstar (msg) 16:13, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

This can be archived. Thanks all. -- Deadstar (msg) 16:13, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Don't think so, Deadstar, for Category:Breads by country is still pending as a subcat of a redirect. --Achim (talk) 22:47, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Ah - Thanks for the note. I fixed it up (I think). Let me know if there's anything else. -- Deadstar (msg) 21:46, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

And so I was BOLD and also moved Category:Breads in art > Category:Bread in art per (e) above. -- Deadstar (msg) 12:56, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

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Done. Thanks to Deadstar! --Achim (talk) 17:36, 6 April 2016 (UTC)