Category talk:Bojcza (coat of arms)

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pl.: Bojcza, Boycza; la.: Boyncza

Bojcza is the name of the Jagiellonian coat of arms. Here are the sources:

  • Two additional main symbols of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania: Columns of Gediminas and Boicha (Boycza) Jagiellons. Here, above the coat of arms of the Jagiellons, its name is written in Latin.--Лобачев Владимир (talk) 11:11, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Bojcza coat of arms of is incorrectly used as a name of the coat of arms of the Jagiellonians due to the similarity of both coats of arms. In fact, Bojcza is an ordinary coat of arms of the nobility. A respected Polish historian, Tadeusz Gajl, mentions Bojcza as belonging to several noble families: [1]. Guccee (talk) 12:28, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The first source you mentioned does not mention a coat of arms with that name at all. Guccee (talk) 12:31, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Here are quotes from sources (translated into English):

Judging by the armorial and sphragistic material, in the 1430-1440s there were two types of this image of the Pahonia: Jagiello and his descendants have a horseman with a sword and "Boycha", Vitovt and Sigismund Kistutovich have a horseman with a sword and "Columns of Gediminas". It is interesting that in such a western coat of arms of the first half of the 15th century in the Codex Bergshammar, the latter version is presented as the coat of arms of the prince and the entire Grand Duchy of Lithuania. <...> Thus, the “Pahonia” coat of arms appeared as a result of a rather long process of heraldry (from the end of the 14th to the end of the 15th century) of an equestrian image from the portrait seals of the Grand Dukes of Lithuania and its combination with the personal coats of arms of Vladislav Jagiello and Vytautas - “Bojcza” and “ Columns of Gediminas”.(source)

--Лобачев Владимир (talk) 12:56, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It was during the time of Jogaila that his personal coat of arms “boycha” was formed with the image of a double cross, which was a Byzantine Christian symbol that symbolized the victory of the Christian tradition in the politics and views of the ruler of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. In the Orthodox tradition, a double, patriarchal, cross is considered a symbol of victory over paganism. (source)

--Лобачев Владимир (talk) 12:56, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Here's another source. Belarusian encyclopedia "The Grand Duchy of Lithuania", 2007, volume 1, page 51:

At first, the coat of arms personified the sovereign lord-prince and could have certain different elements: a dragon under the hooves of a horse, the absence of a shield on the rider, a spear instead of a sword, or personal coats of arms of Jagiello or Vytautas on the rider's shield – "Boycha" or "Kolyumny".

Thus, there is no difference between the concept of Boycha and the Coat of Arms of the Jagiellons. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 12:23, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]