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Hallo Wipos, hast du wirklich vor 65 Jahren dieses Foto geschossen? --Túrelio (talk) 20:20, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

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Túrelio (talk) 20:22, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

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Túrelio (talk) 20:23, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

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Túrelio (talk) 20:25, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

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Túrelio (talk) 20:26, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

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Túrelio (talk) 20:26, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Hallo Wipos, du hast all die o.g. Fotos als "eigenes Werk" angegeben, was aufgrund der Aufnahmezeit aber unwahrscheinlich bis unmöglich ist. Vermutlich beruht dies auf einem Mißverständnis deinerseits. Wenn du ein Foto eines anderen Fotografen, auch wenn es bereits gemeinfrei sein sollte, reproduzierst, dann wirst du dadurch nicht zum Autor/Schöpfer des Bildes; dies bleibt vielmehr der ursprüngliche Fotograf. Da du bei den Fotos den Aufnahmetag meist recht genau angegeben hast, gehe ich davon aus, dass du auch den Namen der Fotografen kennst. Trage diese bitte im Author-Feld ein. Außerdem sollte die Quelle der reproduzierten Fotografie angegeben werden. --Túrelio (talk) 20:35, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Hallo Turelio, die Bilder stammen sämtlich aus Bildarchiven der (eigenen) Familie. Die ursprünglichen Fotografen lassen sich nicht (mehr) ermitteln. Wie soll ich weiter verfahren? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wipos (talk • contribs) 21:04, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Ok. Du solltest zunächst einmal (selbst-)kritisch jedes der Fotos dahingehend begutachten, ob es ernsthaft als "echtes" Familienfoto, also von einem Familienangehörigen aufgenommen, oder, was aufgrund der gezeigten Persönlichkeiten ggf. wahrscheinlicher ist, ob es von einem Fotografen aufgenommen wurde. Hinweise auf letzteres kann z.B. die Rückseite des Abzugs geben, oder "Wasserzeichen" oder Phototuscheschrift auf der Vorderseite am Rand.

Bei Fotos, wo event. die 2. Entstehungsvariante zu vermuten ist, müsste sodann das Entstehungsjahr, das dir ja offenbar rel. genau bekannt ist, einbezogen werden. Bei Fotos, die >100 Jahre alt sind, der wahre Urheber aber nicht bekannt ist, könntest du als Lizenzbaustein {{PD-anon-70-EU}} einsetzen. Im Author-Feld wäre dann unknown oder unbekannt und als Quelle "family archive" anzugeben. Falls die Inspektion dagegen Hinweis auf einen Fotografen oder ein Fotostudio ergibt, müsstest du recherchieren, ob sich dazu etwas im Internet findet. Falls ja, könnte man ggf. bei deren Nachfahren nachfragen.

Bei rel. sicheren Familienfotos, die ebenfalls >100 Jahre alt sind, könntest du den Lizenzbaustein {{PD-heirs}} einsetzen, als Quelle "family archive" und als Author "unknown family member" angeben, sofern du die Zustimmung der älteren Familienmitglieder hast. Bei sicheren Familienfotos, die jünger sind, sollte sich vielleicht doch noch herausfinden lassen, wer das Foto aufgenommen haben könnte. Wenn dessen überlebende direkte Nachfahren zustimmen, könnte ebenfalls {{PD-heirs}} eingesetzt werden, und dann natürlich der Name des Fotografen. Sollte der Fotograf selbst dagegen noch leben, dann müsste er die gewählte Lizenz, die dann auch eine CC-Lizenz sein kann, diese direkt gegenüber permissions-commons-de@wikimedia.org (OTRS) bestätigen.

Es wäre gut, wenn du das in den nächsten 6 Tagen hinbekommen würdest, damit nicht automatisch gelöscht wird. Gib mir ggf. Bescheid, wenn es länger dauert. --Túrelio (talk) 21:23, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Hallo Turelio, ich habe die folgende Datei aus dem Familienarchiv (wieder) hochgeladen und diese nach bestem Wissen mit den entsprechenden Tags versehen - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Franz_Tecklenborg_1807-1886.jpg

Ich wäre dankbar für eine kurze Rückmeldung, ob dies so korrekt ist und ich die übrigen Bilder so auch wieder hochladen kann. Wipos (talk) 22:43, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Hallo Turelio, vielen Dank für die hilfreichen Erläuterungen. Ich werde mich kurzfristig um die Umsetzung bemühen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wipos (talk • contribs) 19:45, 20 April 2021 (UTC)