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The number is NOT random, but essential. If you want to improve something, feel free to improve the description texts, or even better, add more languages. But please never delete my image numbers or other markings in file names, even if they may be incomprehensible to you. It's not my fault that mediawiki insists on capitalizing the first letter of a file name, on my hard drive it's in lower case. That's a purely cosmetic change you're asking for, and it destroys information that is important to me as a creator. --Smial (talk) 14:08, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
That makes no sense. You don't own the stuff you upload to Commons, the community does (and ultimately the WMF). If there is a consensus to change the file name it should change. For now it is just us two so there is no consensus, but if other people have different opinion it's not said that the filename stays like that. PhotographyEdits (talk) 17:05, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
And also: my complaint is not that the file is named Jcdecaux instead of jcdecaux, but that it is not named JCDecaux like the official name of the company. PhotographyEdits (talk) 19:51, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Es gibt keinen Grund, Dateinamen zu ändern. Der Dateiname ist Bestandteil des Werkes, also bestimmt der Urheber darüber. Wenn Vincent van Gogh sein Bild "Landstraße mit Zypressen" nennt, dann ist das so. Da kann nicht irgendwer daherkommen und es in "Feldweg mit Zypressen" umbenennen, weil er meint, da einen Feldweg zu erkennen. Oder weil ihm der Name besser gefällt. Oder weil er gerade Lust auf Umbenennung hat. Deine eigenen Bilder kannst du benennen, wie du möchtest, laß aber die Finger von fremden Werken. --Ralf Roletschek09:59, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
That comparison makes no sense. Van Gogh is not a Wikimedia Commons user. If you are taking a photograph, the filename must correctly represent what it is showing. PhotographyEdits (talk) 15:38, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Der Künstler bestimmt den Namen seines Werkes, egal ob Maler oder Fotograf. Egal, ob berühmt oder nicht. Die Beschreibung gehört in die Beschreibung, nicht in den Namen. Es wäre auch völlig ausreichend, Namen wie DSCF0815.jpg zu benutzen. Es ist unhöflich, in das Werk eines anderen einzugreifen. Ralf Roletschek16:20, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Mir ist eigentlich egal, ob die Datei mit "jcdecaux" wie auf meiner Festplatte oder "Jcdecaux" wie per wikimedia angezeigt oder "JCDecaux" wie die Eigenbezeichnung des Unternehmens lautet, anfängt. Aber dieser Umbenennungswunsch ist reine Kosmetik, denn die Kleinschreibung ist keineswegs irreführend. "aussenwerbung" ist eine korrekte deutschsprachige Bezeichnung (commons ist ein multilingales Projekt, daher zulässig und nicht falsch) und die weiteren Informationen im Dateinamen für mich essentiell, um die RAW-Dateien im Archiv wiederzufinden. Alles andere steht bereits in der Dateibeschreibung. Die Argumentation des Umbennenungsfreunds würde, konsequent zuende gedacht, zu solch lustigen konstruktionen führen, die ich einmalig bei einer ähnlich zeitverschwendenden Aktion bastelte: Smial (talk) 08:24, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
> Es wäre auch völlig ausreichend, Namen wie DSCF0815.jpg zu benutzen.
Bei Leuten wie dir darf sich die Community bedanken, wenn Fotografen die Lust verlieren, hier mitzumachen. Ich habe 50.000 eigene Fotos hier, sie werden 30.000 mal benutzt. Aber seit 6 Jahren lade ich nichts mehr hoch. Ich lasse mir keine unnötigen Vorschriften machen. Wenn etwas auf der Blacklist steht, heißt das auch nur, daß der Name jemandem nicht gefällt. Es ist nicht erforderlich, daß im Dateinamen ein Roman stehnt, der in die Beschreibung gehört. Dateinamen kann man auch komplett abschaffen, das würde Wikidata schaffen. Das ist nur Beschäftigung für Leute, die Langeweiler haben und unnütze Arbeit machen wollen. Es ärgert Fotografen, verjagt Benutzer, die aktiv Inhalte schaffen. Ralf Roletschek09:47, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
> Dateinamen kann man auch komplett abschaffen, das würde Wikidata schaffen.
Maybe, but that's not how it currently works. The filename is the primary identifier of a work. Commons is a supporting project for other WMF projects and the wider internet community. Photos that cannot be found with cryptic filenames are useless, they can only be (easily) found by the original author. It's the community's job to categorize files correctly and gives them clear, descriptive names. PhotographyEdits (talk) 12:39, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
In fact, the file name is not absolutely necessary, as each file can also be identified via the page ID. However, a file name is certainly easier to handle. Objectively incorrect designations should also be corrected, I have had this case myself (incorrectly typed house number in the file name), I have nothing against correcting errors. In the current case, however, there is no real incorrect description. The change to capitalization according to the proper name is purely cosmetic and therefore not covered by the renaming rules. Removing the correct German-language term "Aussenwerbung" and replacing it with an abbreviation that is incomprehensible at first glance is counterproductive and therefore also not covered by the renaming rules. The deletion of organizational features (image numbers, date taken, author abbreviation, etc.) of the uploading image author is at least a clear unfriendliness, if not to be regarded as disruptive to the project. Incidentally, the photo is easy to find even without your change, because it is properly categorized, has a suitable description and has already been used several times outside the wikiverse. I would ask that this incident be closed and that no further action be taken. Smial (talk) 11:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
> The change to capitalization according to the proper name is purely cosmetic and therefore not covered by the renaming rules.
"Harmonize the name of a set of images" is a rule. Look around for pictures with "JCDecaux" on Commons and you will see that this one is an outlier in capitalization. PhotographyEdits (talk) 14:11, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
This is NOT a set of images. It is a single photo. I had asked for this topic to be closed and not pursued any further. I would like to ask you again to put an end to this matter and to stop bothering me with it. Smial (talk) 14:21, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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