User talk:Seahawk01

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-- Wikimedia Commons Welcome (talk) 03:38, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

File tagging File:Warrantless-search-back-seat-passenger-side-des-moines-071518.png

This media was probably deleted.

Thanks for uploading File:Warrantless-search-back-seat-passenger-side-des-moines-071518.png. This media is missing permission information. A source is given, but there is no proof that the author or copyright holder agreed to license the file under the given license. Please provide a link to an appropriate webpage with license information, or ask the author or copyright holder to send an email with copy of a written permission to VRT (permissions-commons@wikimedia.org). You may still be required to go through this procedure even if you are the author yourself; please see Commons:But it's my own work! for more details. After you emailed permission, you may replace the {{No permission since}} tag with {{subst:PP}} on file description page. Alternatively, you may click on "Challenge speedy deletion" below the tag if you wish to provide an argument why evidence of permission is not necessary in this case. Please see this page for more information on how to confirm permission, or if you would like to understand why we ask for permission when uploading work that is not your own, or work which has been previously published (regardless of whether it is your own). The file probably has been deleted. If you sent a permission, try to send it again after 14 days. Do not re-upload. When the VRT-member processes your mail, the file can be undeleted. Additionally you can request undeletion here, providing a link to the File-page on Commons where it was uploaded ([[:File:Warrantless-search-back-seat-passenger-side-des-moines-071518.png]]) and the above demanded information in your request.

 

And also:

• File:Warrantless-search-des-moines-071518.png —LX (talk, contribs) 13:14, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

@LX: I put a question up on the help desk regarding these files. I'll copy and paste what I found out:

I did a bit of research and came up with this: State Copyright Resource Center. Next, I checked the Des Moines Police Department and they have a form for release of public records which includes body and in-car camera recordings. Going back to the first link, I found Iowa FOIA Laws, I found out that Iowa's Open Records Law includes the right to "publish or otherwise disseminate" public records (another link here that also says "there are no restrictions for use of the records in the law").

Do you agree with this analysis? Thanks! Seahawk01 (talk) 01:11, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. First, I see no basis whatsoever for the claim that these files are published under the terms and conditions of a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license. As for freedom of information, that is a separate area of law from copyright. Commons requires content published here to be published under a free license or in the public domain (which is to say not protected by copyright law). The freedom of information provisions do not exempt the content from copyright. To illustrate why this is so, consider that evidence in a copyright lawsuit is part of the public record. If that meant that it were also in the public domain, copyright holders would have no means to enforce their rights. —LX (talk, contribs) 07:01, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

@LX: I'm new to the Commons, so thanks for taking the time to explain all this to me. Let's just delete the two files. I was experimenting and trying to see if I could use public records to create images, but obviously, I haven't mastered the ins and outs of copyright yet! Seahawk01 (talk) 07:09, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

No worries. An administrator will delete them during the next few days unless the {{no permission since}} tags are removed. —LX (talk, contribs) 11:50, 22 November 2018 (UTC)