User talk:Scriptor introductionum
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Ronhjones (Talk) 17:17, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Deletion of images from MacArthur Fellow Kyle Abraham
[edit]@Ronhjones: The images I've uploaded (File:Kyle Abraham 2013 MacArthur Fellow 01.jpg, File:Kyle Abraham 2013 MacArthur Fellow 02.jpg, File:Kyle Abraham 2013 MacArthur Fellow 03.jpg, File:Kyle Abraham 2013 MacArthur Fellow 04.jpg) have an "Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License", according to https://www.macfound.org/creative-commons/ (MacArthur Fellows Images and Video), so it's not wrong to upload them on Wikimedia Commons. Please restore them!--Scriptor introductionum (talk) 20:30, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- There are two licenses on that page. You need to read Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:MacArthur Foundation Images of Fellows for more information. If undeletion is possible then you need to get the original images undeleted (with the appropriate deletion history) - they are
- All were deleted by user: Jameslwoodward - he would have more knowledge of the deletion result, I only deleted on the basis of a re-upload with a different name Ronhjones (Talk) 22:28, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
As noted by Ronhjones, and more fully explained at the DR cited above, the Foundation is willing to give the media a CC-BY license, but for all others, including Commons, the license is CC-BY-NC-ND. That is exactly what https://www.macfound.org/creative-commons/ says. As noted in the DR, I exchanged several e-mails with the Foundation's General Counsel and their intentions are clear. They understand completely that their license policy precludes use of their images on Commons. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 22:40, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- So isn't Commons such "media"? Maybe there should be a note, that the further commercial use of the images is restricted only to other media? In most cases the images will not be used commercially (f.e. in Wikipedia article), and there are not much cases, where something other than media (which is a really general term) will use them.--Scriptor introductionum (talk) 08:08, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- The attempt of the MacArthur Foundation to grant CC-BY licenses to "the media" but to "everyone else" just CC-BY-NC seems rather nonsensical to me, as the CC-BY license includes permission for third parties to reuse material under this license; so we couldn't upload material from the Foundation directly to Commons, but we very well could if we take it from "the media" where it was used under CC-BY. A CC-BY license can't just mutate suddenly to CC-BY-NC. But I think the intention is clear (they don't want their material here, apparently), so it's better to not upload it. Gestumblindi (talk) 22:16, 28 February 2018 (UTC)