User talk:Nina07011960
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File source is not properly indicated: File:Nina Kennedy, pianist.png
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Patrick Rogel (talk) 20:39, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
File source is not properly indicated: File:Nina Kennedy.jpg
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Patrick Rogel (talk) 20:40, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
File source is not properly indicated: File:Nina Kennedy, conductor.png
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Patrick Rogel (talk) 20:40, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
File source is not properly indicated: File:Matthew Kennedy, pianist.jpg
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[[:File:Matthew Kennedy, pianist.jpg]] ).
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Patrick Rogel (talk) 20:41, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
File source is not properly indicated: File:Matthew Kennedy (2).jpg
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Patrick Rogel (talk) 20:41, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Please do not recreate deleted content
[edit]Ronhjones (Talk) 21:13, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Please do not recreate deleted content
[edit]Ronhjones (Talk) 21:13, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Please do not recreate deleted content
[edit]Ronhjones (Talk) 21:13, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Please do not recreate deleted content
[edit]Ronhjones (Talk) 21:13, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Please do not recreate deleted content
[edit]Ronhjones (Talk) 21:13, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Please do not recreate deleted content
[edit]Ronhjones (Talk) 21:13, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Please do not recreate deleted content
[edit]Ronhjones (Talk) 21:13, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Unblock request
[edit]- Here are your reasons, in original upload order:
- File:Matthew Washington Kennedy.jpg was deleted due to your dubious claims of own work, consequent unclear copyright status, and PRP per Commons:Deletion requests/Uploads by Nina07011960, and again because you uploaded it again.
- File:Nina Kennedy.jpg was deleted due to your dubious claims of own work, consequent unclear copyright status, and PRP per Commons:Deletion requests/Uploads by Nina07011960, and twice more because you uploaded it twice more.
- File:Nina Kennedy, conductor.png was deleted due to your dubious claims of own work, consequent unclear copyright status, and PRP per Commons:Deletion requests/Uploads by Nina07011960, and again because you uploaded it again.
- File:Dr. Henry Floyd Gamble.jpg was deleted due to your dubious claims of own work, consequent unclear copyright status, and PRP per Commons:Deletion requests/Uploads by Nina07011960.
- File:Anne Gamble pic.jpg was deleted due to your dubious claims of own work, consequent unclear copyright status, and PRP per Commons:Deletion requests/Uploads by Nina07011960.
- File:Nina Kennedy, pianist.png was deleted due to your dubious claims of own work, consequent unclear copyright status, and PRP per Commons:Deletion requests/Uploads by Nina07011960, and again because you uploaded it again.
- File:Matthew Kennedy and the Fisk Jubilee Singers.jpg was deleted due to your dubious claims of own work, consequent unclear copyright status, and PRP per Commons:Deletion requests/Uploads by Nina07011960, and again because you uploaded it again.
- File:Matthew Kennedy directing the Fisk Jubilee Singers.jpg was deleted due to your dubious claims of own work, consequent unclear copyright status, and PRP per Commons:Deletion requests/Uploads by Nina07011960.
- File:Matthew Kennedy, pianist.jpg was deleted due to your dubious claims of own work, consequent unclear copyright status, and PRP per Commons:Deletion requests/Uploads by Nina07011960, and again because you uploaded it again.
- File:Gamble and Kennedy.png was deleted due to your dubious claims of own work, consequent unclear copyright status, and PRP per Commons:Deletion requests/Uploads by Nina07011960.
- File:Anne Gamble Portrait.jpg was deleted due to your dubious claims of own work, consequent unclear copyright status, and PRP per Commons:Deletion requests/Uploads by Nina07011960.
- File:Anne Gamble Kennedy, pianist.jpg was deleted as a copy of Previously deleted file File:Anne Gamble pic.jpg.
- In such situations, you should have the copyright holder (usually the photographer) send permission via OTRS. If you want to dispute a DR, you should comment at that DR. If you want a file or multiple files undeleted, you should present new evidence or a new argument at COM:UDR. You should not reupload files that have already been deleted, nor should you blatantly disregard warnings. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 02:20, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
- Also, please sign with four tildes "~~~~" rather than three so the time & date are automatically included. In addition, how are you the photographer of File:Nina Kennedy.jpg if you are also the subject? — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 03:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
It's called a tripod. I put the camera on a timer. Nina07011960 (talk) 01:30, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
All permissions have been granted and sent to Wikimedia Commons. Nina07011960 (talk) 16:19, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
— Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 02:36, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
It is obvious that I am not clear about the language. These are photos that belong to me. The photographers of the photos of Anne Gamble Kennedy and Matthew Kennedy are deceased. There are no receipts or permissions. These photographers gave the prints to the subjects to use as they saw fit. I am their sole heir. Nina07011960 (talk) 01:34, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
- Owning a physical property (photograph) is not the same as owning an intellectual property (copyright). Although, for example, one may purchase and own tangible books, the intangible copyrights remain solely with the authors/publishers. Similarly, intellectual properties can indeed be inherited like physical propriety, but must be bequeathed or passed down by operation of law. Alternatively stated, simply being related to the author of a work and owning a copy of that work is not adequate. To accept these files, we would need a copy (e.g., scan) of the legal conveyance or other document that formally transferred to you the copyrights of these images; you can provide that documentation using the COM:OTRS process also mentioned above. Эlcobbola talk 02:07, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
All I have is a Last Will and Testament bequeathing their property to me. Nina07011960 (talk) 02:55, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
All of their photographers are deceased as well. Nina07011960 (talk) 03:03, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
- I'm sorry for your loss. Can you find the names and dates of death of those photographers, try to get permission from their heirs, and send a copy of each of your parents' Last Will and Testament via OTRS? Also, please understand that most of our files are copies of original photos, and that we consider the original photographer to be the author entitled to use {{Own}}, giving credit to the people involved in getting the copies uploaded separate billing. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 10:41, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
There is no way I can find the names of these photographers. They have been dead for decades. Matthew and Anne Kennedy were given these photos for their own use. They were concert pianists, so they needed to distribute the photos for concert programs, newspaper articles, etc. In most cases they themselves hired the photographers to take the pictures, so they certainly had permission to reproduce them. But such paperwork would be more than 70 years old. Their house is sold and emptied so there is no way to find such paperwork. Yes I can send a copy of the Will. Nina07011960 (talk) 15:23, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Vandalism warning
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Template:Public Domain is not a source. Where did you get the file? — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 18:05, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Should the source be "The Estate of Henry Floyd Gamble"? If so, how do I fix it? Nina07011960 (talk) 19:13, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Unblock request 2
[edit]Nina07011960 (talk) 20:41, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Oppose - no, you were not just trying to fix a source. You removed many comments from COM:UDR in such a way that I don't believe that it was by accident. Jcb (talk) 21:07, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
- Someone needs to inform me of the rules here. I was told to "Fix the source" by Yann. What does that mean? I need to upload photos for other articles. Please unblock me! No offence was intended. Nina07011960 (talk) 21:42, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but I really don't see how your action on COM:UDR could have been caused by an attempt to fix a source. Jcb (talk) 22:01, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
- Someone needs to inform me of the rules here. I was told to "Fix the source" by Yann. What does that mean? I need to upload photos for other articles. Please unblock me! No offence was intended. Nina07011960 (talk) 21:42, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Can you tell me how to fix a source? No one answers my question. And why are you so hostile? I'm simply trying to find out how all this works. Can you put me in touch with someone who can answer my questions? Nina07011960 (talk) 22:12, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
And what "action" are you talking about? I'm not a child. You are not my parent. Nina07011960 (talk) 22:13, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
- By "action", it appears Jcb meant your action in making this edit, clicking or tapping "Publish changes" after composing it. Re File:Dr. Henry Floyd Gamble.jpg, you listed the source as "{{own}}", which evaluates to "Own work" in the reader's language. But the original photo is not your own work, there was an original photographer, presumably much older than you, and they probably sold a print to the subject or their family, and the recipient probably put it in an album or in a box or up on a wall, and you got it somehow and scanned or photographed it, creating a derivative work. In this edit you changed the source to "{{Public Domain}}", which evaluates to "Template:Public Domain" in all languages because we don't have a Template:Public Domain. Why do you think the source is "Public Domain"? Who do you think the photographer was? Why do you think the photographer is dead? Where exactly did you get the print and how did it get there from the photographer? That info on where you got the print and how it got there from the photographer should be in the source field for every derivative work of a photograph you upload. You can post it here or in your ticket and it will appear on your files if and when they are restored. Please understand that standard practice for professional photographers is to keep their own copyrights and negatives so they can charge customers for reprints and albums, and sell prints to others for other purposes, and that legal transfer of copyright in the United States must be in written form as a matter of law. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 02:04, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Yes, as I explained before, I mistook the word "own" to mean that I owned the work, which I do. The original framed photo was in my mother's belongings, which I inherited. After Googling the image I saw it was already online years ago. Yann explained to me that the photo was public domain since it had been taken before 1900. He told me to "fix the source," which I tried to do, and then was blocked for a month by Jcb. I still don't know where to fix the source. I tried to fix it in the info on the photo, and was blocked. Can you unblock me? I assure you there was no malicious intent, but Jcb is convinced that there was. Nina07011960 (talk) 16:40, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- So how was your mother related to the subject, or how did she know him? Was there any mark, maybe in a corner or on the back, indicating where or when the original photo was taken, what photographer took it, or even what photography studio took it? — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 17:55, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
He was her father, my grandfather. It was taken before 1900. None of that info would be valid anymore. Nina07011960 (talk) 19:25, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
You did see that Yann restored the photo, right? Nina07011960 (talk) 19:49, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Can you please get Jcb to unblock me. I was in the middle of uploading photos for other articles. I'm working on a deadline. Nina07011960 (talk) 19:31, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- Nina07011960, your haste to meet a deadline seems to be preventing you from meaningfully engaging with the notices and policies that have been repeatedly pointed out to you. We all started out as brand new users entirely unfamiliar with the rules here, yet tens of thousands of us have managed never to have been blocked. You are simply not acting appropriately; you need to slow down and engage genuinely with our polices and the issues. Certain issues:
- You say above "Someone needs to inform me of the rules here"; it is, in fact, incumbent on you to inform yourself. Relevant information was provided during the upload process, and the numerous notices above link you to, among others, our licensing policy and copyright rules. I myself have tried to explain what "source" means, including with citation to relevant policies.
- Owning a physical item--like a photograph--has nothing whatsoever to do with owning the related intangible copyright. Just as you may purchase and own a book, you do not thereby own the copyright of the underlying literary work. Similarly, inheriting a physical photograph is unrelated to inheriting the related copyright and, even if it were, would require the deceased to have themselves owned the intellectual property rather than merely the physical property. The former would need to be substantiated and it may be that case that certain photographs in your possession simply cannot be uploaded due to lack of necessary evidence.
- Yann misinformed you by virtue of an inadequate understanding of English or ignorance of copyright law ("Yann explained to me that the photo was public domain since it had been taken before 1900" is utter nonsense.) United States works can enter the public domain for a number of reasons, which you may observe at COM:HIRTLE--pre-1920 creation is not one of them. Please understand that date of creation and date of publication are very different things. File:Dr. Henry Floyd Gamble.jpg was restored out-of-process, but ultimately spared because I was able to locate evidence of pre-1923 publication.
- You need to demonstrate a genuine understanding of the issues and abstain from uploading images for which you cannot demonstrate and substantiate public domain status or ownership of actual intellectual (as opposed to mere physical) property rights. Эlcobbola talk 20:59, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Yes I do and am. As I explained before, I did not see the notifications from Wikimedia. Even now when I look to my notifications, I have to go to a separate page to find the Wikimedia notices. You see that I have not re-posted photos since seeing the messages. "Fix the source," however, still remains a mystery. I suppose I'll get the hang of it the more I do it. But I still need to respond to this notice within 30 days, and cannot respond while blocked. Nina07011960 (talk) 21:07, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- Which notice were you referring to when you wrote "I still need to respond to this notice within 30 days"? Is that your deadline? — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 23:37, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- The source of your upload of File:Dr. Henry Floyd Gamble.jpg from your point of view could be "Estate of Anne Gamble Kennedy, framed photo of her father Dr. Henry Floyd Gamble (16 January 1862 – 7 September 1932) in his mid 30s from just before 1900, photographer unknown." How old does he look in the photo? — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 23:55, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
I would guess mid-thirties. And where would that information go? Nina07011960 (talk) 02:39, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
- I added it in this edit. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 03:08, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
This is what I received: An email has been received at OTRS concerning this file, and can be read here by users with an OTRS account. However, the message was not sufficient to confirm permission for this file. This may, among other reasons, be because there was no explicit release under a free license, or the email address that the permission came from is not associated with the location where the content was originally published. For an update on the issue, please contact the user (Yann) who added this template to the page, or someone else with an OTRS account, or the OTRS noticeboard. If a valid permission is not provided within 30 days of the first response by an OTRS volunteer, this file will be deleted. Please do not file an additional deletion nomination for permission reasons. Note to OTRS volunteers: If the email contains sufficient confirmation of the validity of the license, please replace this template with {{PermissionOTRS}} Ticket link: https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketNumber=2018042110007654 Nina07011960 (talk) 02:43, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Can you please tell me what language is required and where it goes. Thank you. Nina07011960 (talk) 02:46, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
- I see, that is on File:Nina Kennedy, conductor.png. The photographer is discussing it with one of my fellow OTRS volunteers. Please don't let the 30 days scare you, it's currently longer than that. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 03:19, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Okay. But there are 3 new pages that are waiting for photos. is there a way to upload them while being blocked? Nina07011960 (talk) 17:30, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
- No, sorry. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 17:57, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Well please get Jcb to unblock me. I would also like to file a complaint about his rashness. Nina07011960 (talk) 18:35, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
- Trying to do both at the same time is unwise; I'd focus on the first, as civility is not valued here as much as in other places. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 20:47, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
So how do I get him to unblock me? Nina07011960 (talk) 21:19, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
- I am not going to unblock you. I don't believe that you acted in good faith when you vandalized the undeletion request page, removing comments from several users, removing whole requests and reverting a closure. Till now, you have not commented on your action at COM:UDR, you keep trying to divert our attention from that action by talking all the time about some 'source fixing' issue that is completely unrelated to the block reason. I don't see any reason to unblock you at this point. Jcb (talk) 22:02, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Have you seen a repetition of the "action"? It's clear I did not understand what the rules were. Once I actually saw the messages, I no longer uploaded the photos. In fact, Wikimedia Commons has restored most of them so far. I don't even remember what the deletions were, but I assumed that once the issue was addressed, those messages were no longer necessary. No one explained any of this to me. I didn't even know what "Vandlism" was! Nina07011960 (talk) 22:07, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Unblock request
[edit]Jeff G.: You see what I am dealing with here. Jcb has no intention of informing, educating, or assisting contributors. He is bent on seeing malicious intent. All he wants to do is punish, which is not helpful to your organization. I'm afraid I have no choice. Nina07011960 (talk) 13:58, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
File source is not properly indicated: File:Anne Gamble Kennedy.jpg
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[[:File:Anne Gamble Kennedy.jpg]] ).
If you created the content yourself, enter If someone else created the content, or if it is based on someone else's work, the source should be the address to the web page where you found it, the name and ISBN of the book you scanned it from, or similar. You should also name the author, provide verifiable information to show that the content is in the public domain or has been published under a free license by its author, and add an appropriate template identifying the public domain or licensing status, if you have not already done so. Warning: Wikimedia Commons takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Please add the required information for this and other files you have uploaded before adding more files. If you need assistance, please ask at the help desk. Thank you! |
Patrick Rogel (talk) 19:51, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Licensing template was added Nina07011960 (talk) 20:02, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
File source is not properly indicated: File:Mrs. James A. Myers.png
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[[:File:Mrs. James A. Myers.png]] ).
If you created the content yourself, enter If someone else created the content, or if it is based on someone else's work, the source should be the address to the web page where you found it, the name and ISBN of the book you scanned it from, or similar. You should also name the author, provide verifiable information to show that the content is in the public domain or has been published under a free license by its author, and add an appropriate template identifying the public domain or licensing status, if you have not already done so. Warning: Wikimedia Commons takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Please add the required information for this and other files you have uploaded before adding more files. If you need assistance, please ask at the help desk. Thank you! |
Patrick Rogel (talk) 19:52, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Licensing template was added. Nina07011960 (talk) 20:03, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Notification about possible deletion
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Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.
If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. |
Affected:
And also:
- File:Anne Gamble Kennedy.jpg
- File:Mrs. James A. Myers.png
- File:Mrs. Myers and the Fisk Jubilee Singers, 1935.tif
Yours sincerely, Jcb (talk) 20:28, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Your account has been blocked
[edit]You have been warned numerous times about recreating deleted content, and indeed previously blocked for that reason. Эlcobbola talk 20:43, 28 June 2018 (UTC) I sent several emails to the volunteers regarding these photos, and receive no response. Another volunteer informed me that I needed to show the photos online and the proper licensing language, which I did. Still received no response. I can send you the correspondence. Nina07011960 (talk) 18:06, 29 June 2018 (UTC) Dear , Thank you for your email. This is an automatically generated response to inform you that your message has been received. Because all emails are handled by volunteers, it may take some time for us to reply. We kindly ask for your patience and understanding as we try our best to reply as quickly as possible. If your article or file has been deleted in the mean time, please don't worry. Any administrator can restore these later. If you want to send more emails about the same subject, please add the following to the subject bar of the email: [Ticket#: 2018050510006504].
May 8 to Permissions Hello, You will see this picture on the following website. It was posted in early 2017: https://www.infemnity.com/nina-kennedy-lecturer Thank you Nina07011960 (talk) 18:10, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
Attached please find the Codicil to the Last Will and Testament of Matthew W. Kennedy, appointing me as executrix and heir of his estate. All of the following photographs were part of the estate: Ticket#: 2018042110007672, Ticket#: 2018042110007592, Ticket#: 2018042110007574, Ticket#: 2018042110007565, Ticket#: 2018042110007547, Ticket#: 2018042110007538, Ticket#: 2018042110007529, Ticket#: 2018042110007511, Ticket#: 2018042110007501, Ticket#: 2018042110007494, Ticket#: 2018042110007476. Nina07011960 (talk) 18:14, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- Please see license laundering: posting images for which one does not own the copyright on a website that happens to have a free license does not cause the free license to attach. By way of anaolgy, surely you don't believe uploading a PDF of a Harry Potter book to www.infemnity.com would cause that book to become CC-by. Эlcobbola talk 18:22, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
Can you just tell me please what I have to do to get these pics uploaded. The sarcastic comments are unnecessary! Nina07011960 (talk) 18:27, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
As I have stated many times, I am the sole heir of the estates of Matthew and Anne Kennedy. Their photos belong to me. Nina07011960 (talk) 18:29, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- There was no sarcasm in the comment. We are all volunteers here; if you're going to make bad faith assumptions, I'm happy to be done with you. We have also stated many times that you need to provide evidence that that copyright belongs to you. Being "the sole heir of the estates of Matthew and Anne Kennedy" is not good enough. 1) You need to prove Matthew and/or Anne Kennedy were themselves the copyright holders, which is not likely as they are the subjects of certain of these images; and 2) Once you've done that, you need to prove that their copyrights then transferred to you. The transfer of intellectual property rights, even to heirs, must be explicit, specific to a particular IP and in writing; to-date you have provided no such documentation. It may be the case that the necessary support for the free licensing of these images simply does not exist. Just as a not-for-profit voluntarily eschews profit for philosophical reasons, the Commons eschews works that are not demonstrably free for philosophical reasons. It does this knowing some works will be, unfortunately, precluded. You may wish to consider simply uploading the images to en.wiki with a fair use justification, as it appears evidence of free licenses will not be forthcoming. Эlcobbola talk 18:56, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
Does this mean that I will be able to upload these photos onto their articles? I stated before that these photos were taken in the 1940s and 50s respectively. The photographers are long deceased, and there was no record of a transfer of copyright in their papers (which does not mean that it doesn't exist.) And I already submitted the Codicil to the Last Will and Testament appointing me as heir and executrix.Nina07011960 (talk) 19:40, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- If you have a fair use claim (see the en.wiki criteria), you can upload the images there for use in en.wiki articles (the Commons is unique in allowing files here to appear on all sister sites. Local en.wiki files can only be used on en.wiki articles/pages.) I do realise that the photos are old (1940s and 50s), which complicates or even precludes documentation of evidence. Indeed, this is why I say "It may be the case that the necessary support for the free licensing of these images simply does not exist" ("exist" intended to mean "be available to us.") If you've submitted the Last Will and Testament, that may resolve point two above if the IPs are listed among assets bequeathed or by virtue of residuary estate, but it does not resolve the more important point one. Эlcobbola talk 20:06, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
Well no one responded to the documentation I submitted, which was why I uploaded the photographs. And they are not they same ones that were submitted before. These are clearer. And how can I upload them to en.wiki if I am blocked? Nina07011960 (talk) 17:54, 30 June 2018 (UTC) Can you please explain to me how I'm supposed to use en.wiki, where I'm supposed to upload the photos, etc. Nina07011960 (talk) 18:06, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
- I am an OTRS member and can see the response(s) you received. You were notified that your correspondence had been received and that a response "may take some time." That the processing did not fit within your desired time frame is no excuse to forge ahead and re-upload deleted content (an image, in this context, has a single copyright - the level of clarity is not relevant. Again, and not sarcastically, surely you do not not believe that the problems pointed out to you were related to the clarity of the image.) Many people are waiting patiently to have their permissions processed; you are neither more or less important than them and will have to wait. I do understand the frustration. No one desires such a delay, but we can't side step necessary processes because they inconvenience us. Further, as I said above, you likely have not submitted adequate permission anyway, as copyright generally belongs to the photographer, not to the subjects and thereby not to the subjects' heir(s). You are blocked on the Commons, not en.wiki; you currently have no restrictions there. The upload process on en.wiki is, in all germane ways, identical. Click the upload file link and follow the instructions or, better, yet, ask for guidance on that project (this is the Commons and our policies and procedures are different.) Эlcobbola talk 18:52, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Notification about possible deletion
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Affected:
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- File:Matthew Kennedy (2).jpg
- File:Matthew Kennedy and the Fisk Jubilee Singers.jpg
- File:Anne Gamble Portrait.jpg
- File:Matthew Kennedy directing the Fisk Jubilee Singers.jpg
Yours sincerely, ~ Rob13Talk 13:45, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
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