User talk:Mictlancihuatl

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-- Wikimedia Commons Welcome (talk) 08:42, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

August 2021

Hi. You recently uploaded File:Description and Discussion of the Archeological Remains in the Vicinity of Achonry.jpg with a license tag indicating "own work / cc-by-sa-4.0". However, the image is a photograph of another work. A work, per the description you added, titled "Description and Discussion of the Archeological Remains in the Vicinity of Achonry" which dates from 1998. Are you the author of that piece from 1998? If not, then a "photograph of someone else's work" is a derivative work and may meet the SD#F3. (Taking a photograph of someone else's work doesn't transfer rights to that work. Any more than taking a photo of the Mona Lisa makes me Leonardo Da Vinci :) ). If you authored or published the 1998 piece, can you indicate (and perhaps evidence) as much in the description? If you didn't write it, can you indicate who did? And confirm that they have given permission for their work to be released under a "cc-by-sa-4.0" (free/commons) licence? Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 12:15, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Guliolopez, thank you for the message. Actually I was not quite sure how to upload this file. I cannot claim to be the author of the text it depicts, but I am the fotografer. The document seems to be part of a feasible study in 1998 about the archeological remains in this region in Ireland. However, I tried to do some research and find out who is the author and which is the source - but I did not find any information. It seems that this study has not been published in a way that it would be available easily. However, I wanted to use the information given for an article. So this is why I uploaded it. If it violates the rules, I can change the license or delete it, too. --Mictlancihuatl (talk) 20:30, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi. I'm not sure "how to upload this file" is the correct (or first) question that should be asked/answered.

The first question is "WHY to upload this file". Does it need to be on Wikimedia Commons or Wikipedia? Why? What value does this image have? Relative to COM:SCOPE? If you want to use that person's work as a source for Wikipedia, then it doesn't have to be loaded to Wikimedia Commons! (If you wanted to use a New York times article or some reference book from the library to support a Wikipedia article, would you take a picture of it and upload it to Commons? I certainly hope the answer is no...)

The second question to ask is "WHETHER to upload this file". If you didn't create that work, and you don't know who did (or what copyright status it has), then should it be uploaded here at all? If you don't know who the author is (and what copyright claim they might have/expect for their work), then I don't see how it can be here.

Personally I think you should be using COM:SPEEDY#G7 to request that the image be deleted. Guliolopez (talk) 19:04, 15 August 2021 (UTC)