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Украинские корветы
[edit]Здравствуйте!
Вы, специалист ВМС Украины, знаете, как назывались украинские корветы U209 «Сумы» и U210 «Херсон», когда ещё они были советские корабли?
Я искал компьютером и нашёл, почему-то, два варианта;
- U209 «Сумы» — МПК-52; U210 «Херсон» — МПК-43;
- U209 «Сумы» — МПК-43; U210 «Херсон» — МПК-52;
Что правильно?
Есть такие изображения МПК-52, корветов «Сумы» и «Херсон». Я хочу создать категорию, как Category:Corvette Ternopil, Category:Aukštaitis (F12) и т.д.
Если вы знаете информацию этих кораблей, то помогите, пожалуйста.
Спасибо за внимание на мой вопрос.
С уважением --BezPRUzyn (talk) 17:30, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
- Добрый день. Согласно официальному справочнику ВМС Украины Заблоцкого и Костриченко, с. 15-16:
- Корвет "Сумы", ранее МПК-43, в советское время имел имя - "Одесский Комсомолец"
- Корвет "Херсон" ранее МПК-52, в советское время имел № 712.
Книгу можно скачать здесь: [1]
С уважением.--KaiserAdler (talk) 07:01, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Большое спасибо!
Хоть я и не могу смотреть этот файл (проблема касается объём??), я поверю вашему совету и сделаю категорию корвета "Херсон".
С уважением.--BezPRUzyn (talk) 05:54, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Здравствуйте!
Наконец-то я разобрался в проблеме и почитал эту книгу. А тогда у меня появились еще некотрые вопросы.
- Это "официальный" справочник? Почему на русском языке написано?
- U155 «Нікополь» и U156 «Кременчук» в ВМСУ классифицированы как ракетные катера? Сегодня они считаются корветами (или ударными корветами). Мне кажется, что в этом справочнике классификация кораблей очень похожа на ту в ВМФ России.
- Автор пишет, как «Тернопіль» и «Запорізька Січ» один корабль (имели б/н U202). Это правда? Я сам думал и везде так читал, что недавно «Тернопіль» (б/н U209, бывший U202) построился в Киеве и еще один корвет строится (уже списан?) там и он же «Запорізька Січ».
- У меня еще такой источник есть: "Виталий Васильевич Костриченко. «Альбатрос» дозорный в море. История кораблей проекта 1124 - Москва, 2005. ISBN 5-90286З-D4-Х". В той Костриченко пишет, что МПК-52 стал корветом U209 «Сумы». Конечно, возможно, что россияне (кстати Костриченко россиянин?) что-то плохо знают о ВМСУ, но... вообще говоря, мне кажется, что этот источник достоверный (по крайней мере не хуже, чем справочник ВМС Украины). Я не понимаю, почему Костриченко разную имформацию пишет... Эта книга более новая (изд. 2005 г.), чем справочник ВМС Украины (изд. 1998 г.), поэтому, может быть, что-то новую имформацию он нашел...?
Как вы думаете?
Заранее спасибо вам за внимание на мой вопрос.
С уважением.--BezPRUzyn (talk) 05:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
- Извините, достаточно долго не посещал эту страницу. Относительно того, что Вы спрашиваете: U155 «Нікополь» и U156 «Кременчук» - в украинском флоте переклассифицированы в корветы, а ранее считались большими ракетными катерами. Корабли такого же типа в российском флоте именуются ракетными катерами. Просто в ВМС Украины принята западная классификация типов кораблей, а в России еще до сих пор пользуются советской. По второму вопросу - пока что затрудняюсь Вам ответить. Чесно говоря, я недостаточно хорошо разбираюсь в современных корабля, потому что занимаюсь почти исключительно только кораблями эпохи пара и брони...Но я попробую уточнить.--KaiserAdler (talk) 16:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Нормально, я тоже не каждый день занимаюсь викискладом, иногда долго не занимался. А я большое спасибо Вам за помощи. Да, у меня больше нет имформации. Везде что-то пишут, но мне совсем не понятно, кто вернее... Под таким обстоятельством мне Вы много помогаете.
Бывшие большие РКА еще именовались как РКА в ВМС Украины в 1998 году, когда опубликовали данный справочник? В справочнике написано, что они РКА, как и катера пр. 206-МР (но уже они не "большие", а написано просто "ракетные катера"), несмотря на то, что МПК уже именуются корветами и СКР также фрегатами.
Может быть, сначала катера пр. 1241 в ВМСУ тоже считались РКА, как в ВМФ СССР и России. Или просто классификация что-то расстроилась в ВМСУ, так как сами ВМСУ еще только что создали (официально) в 1997 году.
Буду ждать Ваш ответ (когда Вам угодно снова ответите, пожалуйста) и я тоже поищу информацию. С уважением,--BezPRUzyn (talk) 16:50, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Морський прапор України
[edit]Уважаемый KaiserAdler!
Посмотрите User talk:BezPRUzyn#File:Naval ensign of Ukraine.svg и поправьте меня, пожалуйста.
И у меня есть два вопроса;
- Этот флаг был "dress" (церемониальный)?
- Откуда вы взял (где нашел) такой флаг? Если несомненно был такой прелестный флаг, то я непременно хочу подобный файл также в Викискладе.
Буду ждать вашу помощь.
С уважением,--BezPRUzyn (talk) 14:53, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
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