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JuTa 02:29, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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JuTa 02:30, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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JuTa 02:33, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Yours sincerely, JuTa 20:39, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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And also:

Yours sincerely, Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 18:20, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

File tagging File:И. М. Владыченко.JPEG

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ManFromNord (talk) 11:15, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Удаляйте.
Kabota 13 (talk) 02:27, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Yours sincerely, Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:05, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Magog,

Many thanks for your feedback. I suppose some troubles happend with the licensing of the images, I've posted in Wikipedia. I still can not understand, what's wrong with that.

Could you please kindly advise:

1) what license I should indicate, if an image has been scaned from a book?

2) what licence should be indicated, if an image has been taken from an outside web-site and an original author is unknown?

3) what license should be indicated, if the image has been taken from a family archive (provided by heirs) and I am a heir too?

I have placed my explanation in Summary section for each photo. Please take a look and help with the licensing.

Regards,

Kabota_13


File tagging File:И. М. Владыченко.JPEG

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ManFromNord (talk) 11:15, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Настоящий файл размещён на сайте: http://www.minister.su/article/1238.html
Там указаны авторские следующие права: © 2013 МИНИСТРЫ СОВЕТСКОЙ ЭПОХИ, © 2013 Московский городской фонд Московский ветеран, "Все права защищены". Специальные указания на лицензионные ограничения использования изображений сайта отсутствуют.
Свободное использование размещённых там изображений, включая File:И. М. Владыченко.JPEG, регулируются ч. 1 и 2 ст.1274 ГК РФ.
Таким образом, использование данного изображения удовлетворяет требованиям "Добросовестного использования" Википедии.
Прошу снять метку "No permission".
Kabota 13 (talk) 14:38, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Sealle (talk) 11:55, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Изображение пока не используется. Можно удалять. Kabota 13 (talk) 14:28, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Yours sincerely, Sealle (talk) 12:03, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Sealle,
Please advise, what's wrong with THESE files?
  1. File:Заслуженный деятель науки и техники УССР. Нагрудный знак.jpg - This image has been created by me peronally - an official medal of the Ukrainan Soviet Socialist Republic. The PD-RU-exempt|type=orders, decorations and medals is absolutely applicable here. See similar image File:Honored Cultural Worker of the RSFSR.jpg and many other quite similar files.
  2. File:Диплом премии Скочинского-2002.jpg - the same - the official diploma of the Russian Ministery for Energy - PD-RU-exempt|type=orders, decorations and medals
  3. File:Знак премии Скочинского-1974.jpg - the same - the official medal of the USSR Ministery for Coal Mining - PD-RU-exempt|type=orders, decorations and medals.
  4. File:Знак премии Скочинского.jpg - the same - the official medal of the Russian Ministery for Energy - PD-RU-exempt|type=orders, decorations and medals. However, the the source has been indicated there not properly, by mistake, and should be corrected as http://www.icc.kemsc.ru/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=185:материальный-эффект.
  5. File:МакНИИ-эмблема-1982.jpg - This image has been created by me peronally - an official simbol of the Makeevka Research Institute for Mining Safety since 1977.
  6. File:А.И.Бобров2.jpeg - I'm the author (photographer) of this photo personally in 1977 (aprox.).
  7. File:И.В.Бобров.jpg - this photo has been taken by my father and I'm his direct heir. What other permition you expect here?
The delition of these files looks as not corresponding with the rules. Please remove the deletion mark from there.
Regards,
Kabota 13 (talk) 13:34, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. Your silence is not a discussion.
Дополнение
  • File:МакНИИ-Вышка.jpg - ошибочная загрузка на склад. Файл следует перезагрузить, как несвободный. Цель: иллюстрирование основного предмета статьи. Замена невозможна, т.к. изображённая уникальная конструкция была демонтирована в 2006 году. Однако, из-за блокировки пока этого сделать не могу. Прошу помочь с переносом.
Естественно, из-за блокировки, также не могу ничего скорректировать в описании файлов. Прошу помочь (см. выше).
С удалением остальных файлов пока согласен. Буду думать, как не растерять иллюстративность статей.
Kabota 13 (talk) 14:23, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Sealle (talk) 12:08, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Прошу помочь с корректировкой описания 8 файлов (см. выше). Заранее спасибо.
Kabota 13 (talk) 16:49, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Kabota 13 (talk) 11:42, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • По файлам: File:А.И.Бобров2.jpeg и File:И.В.Бобров.jpg, честно говоря, не знаю, что следует корректировать. Я, действительно, владелец авторских прав на оба изображения. Они любительские. Первое снимал сам (примерно в 1977 году; это не шахта, опытная штольня - что-то вроде "макета выработки" для экспериментов; было построено на поверхности, рядом со зданием лабратории), второе фото делал мой отец с последующей обработкой в фотолаборатории. Пожалуйста, подскажите, всё ли здесь нормально.
  • Файл: File:МакНИИ-Вышка.jpg, действительно, является несвободным. Фото 1957 года, опубликовано в бумажной книге. Изображённая уникальная и единственная в мире конструкция была демонтирована в 2006 году. Является очень ярким и узнаваемым символом научно-исследовательского института. Было известно всей угольной промышленности СССР. Правильно ли я понимаю, что со склада его нужно удалить, но можно загрузить как несвободное изображение с главной страницы ВП? Если так, то из-за блокировки этого сделать не могу.
  • Часть других изображений, помеченных к удалению, постараюсь заменить свежими собственными фото. Затронуты три статьи. Думаю, это будет наилучший вариант для сохранения их иллюстративности.
  • Пожалуйста, подскажите, что будет с моими правами автопатрулируемого и загружающего. Как видите, в загрузке удаляемых файлов не было никакого злого умысла или вандализма. Kabota 13 (talk) 12:20, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Коллега удалил те файлы, которые всё равно подлежали удалению. Во-первых (он это указал и я уже это Вам пояснял), повторная загрузка удалённых файлов является грубым нарушением правил проекта. Во-вторых, размещение сканов из книги невозможно без получения разрешения правообладателя, см. COM:OTRS/ru. Ваше сканирование не делает Вас автором оригинальных изображений, это всего лишь производная работа. По тем файлам, которые пока не удалены: Вы сами привлекли к ним внимание на форуме в рувики, теперь в течение недели ждите комментариев. Первые поступившие, как видите, - в пользу удаления. Sealle (talk) 06:12, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Сразу несколько вопросов, которые покажутся вам неудобными, но ответа требуют:
  1. Перед удалением файлов коллега действительно убедился, что каждый из них заслуживает удаления? Он дождался окончания обсуждения? Мой ответ - нет. Лишь стремился удалить всё, по формальному признаку, как и многие администраторы, о чём я уже писал. Объективности и бережного отношения к материалу здесь не наблюдаю.
  2. Неужели все файлы, ранее удалённые из-за ошибок в описании, навечно приговорены к запрету на повторную загрузку? Это же нонсенс. Толкового обсуждения первой загрузки так и не случилось - можете посмотреть на страницах обсуждений.
  3. Как теперь быть с файлом "Н. Н. Черницын.jpg"? Необходим для иллюстрации предмета статьи Черницын, Николай Николаевич. Его описание после корректировки было правильным. К повторному удалению не номинировался. Изображённый человек умер в 1917 году. Проблем с лиценщированием изображения нет.
  4. Комментарии о файлах, к которым, по вашим словам, я "привлёк внимание", носят весьма странный характер. Не допускаете, что комментатор модет быть не прав? (Кстати, о "привлёк внимание" - мне следовало тихо сидеть "авось не заметят" или в ВП существуют правила и открытое конструктивное обсуждение?). Комментатор почему-то не считает Министерство энергетики Российской Федерации государственным органом, речь идёт о каком-то 3D изображении - это о плоской медали (почётном знаке "Заслуженный деятель науки и техники УССР"). Просмативается лишь совершенно необоснованная натяжка агрументов для удаления. Будем брать это в расчёт? Кстати, описания всех этих файлов вчера были скорректированы и верны. Если хотите удалять, тогда уж удаляйте все изображения орденов, медалей, почётных знаков и пр., включая загруженные вами лично.
  5. Из вашего сегодняшнего комментария следует, что вы не намерены проверять обсуждаемые и вновь скорректированные файлы, тем более восстанавливать удалённые, по которым обсуждение не закончено. Хотели бы помочь, уже бы помогли. Опять стремление к удалению? Откуда это у вас, ребята? Вам за это платят или просто доставляет удовольствие? Ну, да. Вас же 0,01 администратора на одного загружающего.
  6. Теперь вам понятно, чем вызвано недовольство действиями администраторов? Хоть кто-то из них помог объективно разобрался и разрешить ситуацию? И не просматривается. От вас, похоже, мне этого тоже не дожаться.
  • Таким образом подвожу итог. Обсуждение окончено. Можете удалять сразу все мои загрузки - ни слова не скажу. Не забудьте снова заблокировать мои права в Commons - нарушение ВП:ЭП, ВП:ПДН и чего-нибудь ещё. Они больше не потребуются. Только не удивляйтесь, когда получите аналогичное "отзывчивое" отношение от окружающих. ДЪ. Kabota 13 (talk) 10:25, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ещё: коллеге (Jameslwoodward) направил вчера сообщение с вопросом об удалении файлов и просьбой об их частичном восстановлении для обсуждения. Всё ещё молчит. Вот так всё и обсуждаем... Kabota 13 (talk) 12:58, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • С момента номинации файлов до их удаления дано 7 дней. Пока обсуждение никуда не продвинулось. С сегодняшнего дня буду отмечать здесь каждый день, прошедший без обсуждения и без поиска решения. Каждый из таких дней, - как минимум, плохая работа задействованных администраторов. Итак, заканчивается день два.

Copied the following from an e-mail sent to me -- note that Commons and all of WMF tries hard to be transparent, so e-mail is used only for messages that must remain private. Note also that often editors are in different time zones, so it is unreasonable to expect rapid responses. Finally, please note that this is not the correct place for any discussion of these files -- it must take place at the DR or the closing Admin will not see it. [e-mail begins]

"(Jameslwoodward), WHY have you deleted the File:Н. Н. Черницын.jpg file?!! It was absoletely Ok. That person has died March 1, 1917. No any problem with the image licensing. And, after the correction, this file have not been nominated for deletion this time. Please restore it in Commons. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:33, 20 January 2016 (UTC)"[reply]

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The subject file had been deleted according to Commons rules. Reloading it was a serious violation of Commons rules and I deleted it the second time for that reason. Also note that the subject having died in 1917 says nothing about the copyright status of the image -- we generally use 1886 as a cutoff date for assuming that the photographer has been dead for 70 years. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:33, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Did you have some time to see the description and the license information inside before the deletion? I guess, no. However they were absolutely right, including the license. That image was needed to illustrate the correspondent article. By the way, in Rusdia we use 1941 as a cutoff date (please refer to the Russian licenses). Does it mean that a file, which was deleted once because of any mistake in its desrciption, is prohibited for second upload? Is there a rule? And if it is so, you'll never get that image back. So, what you'll get in Wiki? Just text articles with no illustrations? If so, go ahead without me. Kabota 13 (talk) 14:48, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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[Copied from an e-mail - see my note above that e-mail is not appropriate for this sort of thing]

Dear Jameslwoodward,

So, the consensus on our yesterday discussion has been found. All files we discussed should be deleted. It's a shame for me but understandable now. I went through your yesterday comments several more times and then marked some my other uploads, which appeared to be in Commons by mistake, for delition accordingly. However some points in regards to further uploads still need a clarification. Could you please advise, if I think right or no:

1) File:Диплом премии Скочинского-2002.jpg - may I upload a new similar image (a new original photo will be made by me - it seems I've found an opportunity how to do that) to Commons under self|cc-by-sa-3.0 license and {{PD-RU-exempt}} permission?

2) File:Знак премии Скочинского.jpg - almost the same. A new similar image (a new original photo will be made by me) - new upload to Commons - self|cc-by-sa-3.0 license and {{PD-RU-exempt}} permission? May I create an award template based that new image and upload it to Commons?

3) File:Заслуженный деятель науки и техники УССР. Нагрудный знак.jpg - similar. A new image (a new original photo will be made by me - I was lucky to find an opportunity for that) in Commons under self|cc-by-sa-3.0 license and {{PD-UA-exempt}} permission? May I create an award template based that new image and upload it to Commons?

4) File:МакНИИ-Вышка.jpg - this is a scanned image from a book. Not-free image. It's needed to illustrate the main subject of the article Государственный макеевский научно-исследовательский институт по безопасности работ в горной промышленности. The image presents a unique construction (massive metal tower 42 meters height) for spectial research works, the exclusive one across the world, and very well-known across former USSR's coal mining industry and Donbass region. That replacement is impossible as far the tower has beeb deinstalled in 2006. May I upload that file again, as not-free image, through the upload function on ru.Wiki page (not to the Commons)? The non-free content criteria will be followed.

5) File:Н. Н. Черницын.jpg - the scanned image from a book, you saw yesterday. May I upload it through the upload function again through the upload function on ru.Wiki page page (not to Commons store) according to the Non-free content criteria ВП:КДИ?


Many thanks for your advice,

Regards,

Kabota 13 [copy ends]

(1) Since this is a flat work, the photograph has no copyright. However, User:Alex Spade is quite sure that the document itself is not{{PD-RU-exempt}}, so there is no point in uploading a new version -- either the existing version is OK, or it is not and a new version will not fix that.
(2) and (3) You may certainly photograph any Russian government medal yourself and upload it, subject only to the limit that you should not create duplicates of existing Commons images.
(4) and (5) I do not know anything about the fair use provisions on WP:RU -- some of the WPs have them, others do not, so I cannot answer this except to say that I think that what you suggest would be permitted on WP:EN.
.     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:54, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much, James. That's clear now. Will expect an advise on points 4 and 5 from the Russian administrators. Hopfully I found the right way for those uploads. Regards. Kabota 13 (talk) 13:59, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that I have changed my (1) above. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:00, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you once again. Anyway I'll try to replace it later with a new image with better quality. OTRS has been requested. Kabota 13 (talk) 14:06, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • The license information has been reviewed and corrected for the rest of files accordingly to similar images in Commons uploaded many times by experianced participants. The delition looks as not needed any more. Kabota 13 (talk) 01:24, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • Anyway those corrected files have been deleted today mechanically, with no further additional review. In spite of the license information was right at least for some of them. It's a shame. Russian Commons' section gonna be brightly clean. Kabota 13 (talk) 14:04, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 03:23, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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