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Wikidata weekly summary #327

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  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
    • Structured Data on Commons: A draft specification for using Depicts statements on Commons is up for community feedback.
    • It's possible to add somevalue and novalue using QuickStatements, and to use the tool on test.wikidata.org as well.
    • More properties can be searched using haswbstatement. This includes all properties with "external identifier", "string", "item", "property", "lexeme", "form" and "sense" datatypes, except published in (P1433) and cites (P2860). In addition you may make queries without a specified value.
    • The page creation and edit rate limit imposed in April will be removed in the next days. However, users who are not bots or administrators are throttled to 90 edits per minute (which was set up on all Wikimedia wikis in May).
    • These new languages are now supported for monolingual text strings: mid, mnw, gmy, rar, haz, uga. The language doesn't show up in the suggester, but you can save the statement and it will be stored properly.
    • Reminder: Wikidata's sixth birthday happens in two months. It's time to think about organizing a meetup with your local community, or preparing a gift (see the list of presents last year).
    • Lexicographical data: you can now try Senses on beta
    • 25% of the labeling campaign to improve the vandalism detection on Wikidata has been done. Please help by reviewing a few edits!
  • Development
    • More work on merging Lexemes
    • More work on data types and edit summary for Senses
    • Improve qualifier suggestions using constraint definition (phab:T201288)
    • Improve constraint property item suggestions for property constraint values (phab:T199672)
    • Remove ratelimit from Wikidata for some groups again (phab:T198396)

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Wikidata weekly summary #328

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  • Development
    • Final polishing on first version of Senses support for Lexemes. (phabricator:T201000, phabricator:T202729, phabricator:T198036, phabricator:T203334)
    • Continued work on merging Lexemes. Merging via the SpecialPage is done and will be rolled out soon. Merging via the API is still being worked on. (phabricator:T189129)
    • Long Lemmas in Lexemes look bad because they are not flowing to the next line and instead break the layout. Working on a fix. (phabricator:T195367)
    • Improving the validity of the HTML of the Lexeme headers. (phabricator:T196228)
    • Worked on showing the Lemma(s) or Representation(s) when Lexemes or Forms are mentioned in constraint reports. (phabricator:T195315)
    • Got a new beta feature ready for deployment that will improve the suggestions for properties like sex/gender by first suggesting the values defined in the one-of constraint. (phabricator:T202712)

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Wikidata weekly summary #329

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welcome back

Ich freue mich, dass du wieder an Bord bist, hatte mir schon Sorgen gemacht. Gruß, --Achim (talk) 17:20, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Unkraut vergeht nicht. C(_) --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 00:00, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Gut zu wissen. Ich schließe mich Achim an. De728631 (talk) 00:22, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Welcome back Hedwig, Nice to have you back again :), Hope all is well with you and yours C(_) –Davey2010Talk 01:16, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #330

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  • Events
    • Continuing through September and early October: Andy Mabbett is touring Australia for a series of open-science and GLAM Wiki-focused talks, workshops, and meetups.
    • New events added for the sixth birthday of Wikidata: Berlin, Oslo, Tehran, Beijing
  • Development
    • Fix a problem with the language of the lemma (phab:T194347)
    • Improving the diffs for Lexemes (phab:T185481)
    • Exclude es-formal and hu-formal from monolingual text codes (phab:T203311, thanks to MarcoAurelio)
    • Implement the contemporary constraint (phab:T141859, thanks to Abiàn)

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Wikidata weekly summary #331

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Development
    • Work on editing Form statements using the API (phab:T194732)
    • Show the Lemma(s) or Representation(s) when Lexemes or Forms are mentioned in constraint reports (phab:T195315)
    • Add hyphenation for long Lexeme lemmas and representations (phab:T195367)
    • Normalize SPARQL queries (phab:T204122, thanks to Abiàn)
    • Fix a bug on the Query Service about exported query results being different from the displayed result (phab:T195258)
    • Fix a bug on the Query Service about empty map results returning error (phab:T178786)

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Irregular video removal

Hi, excuse me, what are you doing? It takes some time to upload media to Commons and add the information. You have removed, very quickly, media with proper commons licenses, this [1]and this. here it is the license at the bottom [2]. I guess it is a misunderstanding, please restore them ASAP. Thanks Iñaki LL (talk) 18:08, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

The source you gave was YouTube with a YouTube standard license. I do not know the other website you just came up with. Who copied from whom? One free and one restricted license. You need to clarify that. Especially when the file has been deleted before. Best, --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 18:27, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
I just used the application Videostocommons, it took the Youtube source, I do not see where it says restricted license. The Youtube channel for diffusion belongs to web page Oroiteria by Berria (newspaper), with the original source here with license notice at the bottom, I added it in the Author parameter. Iñaki LL (talk) 19:34, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Actually there is no license at all given at YouTube. It seems there is no clear author and copyright holder given. The licenses are unclear as well. I can't tell who is the copyright holder. Very strange indeed. You need to dig around and find more info. Sorry. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 22:03, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, no. It cannot be more clear. It states so clearly in the home page (Oroiteria) (bottom) [3] (Main Page), here the whole series with header Oroiteria [4], what more do you want? Specifically video Pepi Berasategi [5], popping up from that series (check the address, no youtube), but actually embedded in [6] youtube version diffused by channel Oroiteria Webgune berezia, the same as the home web page. Nothing states it is barred in youtube either. For more clues the Basque Wikimedians User Group signed an agreement with Berria newspaper to release their material, check here [7] (eye scan Oroiteria). Please restore it ASAP, thanks. Iñaki LL (talk) 16:07, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
That's where you go wrong. Even the url ends in youtu.be . The absence of a license doesn't make the video free. I do hope I made a mistake tho. @Alan: could you please have a look? --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 02:22, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for double-checking w this other editor. The license of the video series makes reference to the page itself, so if there is any error at all, it belongs to the page that states its content is free licensed. Iñaki LL (talk) 07:57, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
@Hedwig in Washington, Alan, and Iñaki LL: Some insights on this: the original project of recording people talking about the Spanish Civil War was made by Euskal Herriko Ahotsak. All their videos are cc-by-sa-2.0 and can be found here. In the case of Elu Gaztañaga Martinez, the woman speaking in the video deleted, her videos are here. All this videos have a cc-by-sa-20 license, and maybe it was lost when they uploaded to YouTube, as generally people doesn't know that videos must be re-copyrighted when uploaded to YouTube. The original recording is cc-by-sa and the webpage where they are shown is also creative commons licensed. So the videos are free, even if the YouTube version is not free. -Theklan (talk) 18:24, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
I don't see a free license there either. Commons regulary requires the copyright holder to send permission when a file is on the web on several different sites. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 03:43, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
What does "send permission" mean? If the original site states that all its contents are published under free license, it just means that, no matter where it has been distributed. However, it holds true it is not well indicated, I will fetch it. Iñaki LL (talk) 08:06, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Here it is the page (Ohar Legala), search for "cc-by-sa lizentziapean", in the link at the bottom of the page where the video is hosted [8]. Iñaki LL (talk) 09:04, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Have a peek at OTRS to learn about permissions and how to stuff. Thanks for the link. Please post the info on the deletion request page. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 10:49, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the link also. However, I do not think this falls in these categories. It is clearly stated in the link above (Ohar Legala), I think it may be related to language? "Lanaren egiletza eta jabetza: webgune honetako informazioaren egiletza proiektuan parte hartzen duten guztiena da eta bertan banatzen den eduki guztia lizentzia librearekin banatzen da, cc-by-sa lizentziapean (Aitortu-Partekatu baimen berberarekin). It is perfectly clear (in Basque), I am afraid that if I spend time sending this to OTRS also, will find the same frustration. But back to the basics: it is properly licensed. (Would it be better if it had the license icon on the video's page? That is also true) Iñaki LL (talk) 11:32, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
I'm not sure you understand the process. Only the copyright holder can give permission. Not you as the uploader or the website that is reusing the files. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 21:18, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
I think we did not explain it right. They are not reused files, they are original files in the links provided. Here again: the page (Ohar Legala), search for "cc-by-sa lizentziapean", in the link at the bottom of the page where the video is hosted [9] Iñaki LL (talk) 10:15, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Hedwig, the explanations provided are definitelly not too much helpful and possibly a clear summary is required:

  • The videos seem to have been originally published in ahotsak.eus. From the example provided by Theklan above (here), you can see full series of videos recorded for each person being interviewed. I support the statement on the nature of the site: see here. At the bottom you can see the logotypes of the institutions supporting the Basque Oral Archive: the regional Basque government, the provincial councils of Biscay and Gipuzcoa and the Kutxa foundation. As the videos illustrate different accents of the Basque language it's straightforward to claim this is the original publisher. It publishes its contents under a CC-BY-SA 2.0 license (as described in here). Therefore, provided that the actual source in ahotsak.eus is provided and the right license tag is included, there's no problem with the file (both the deleted ones and those in Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Iñaki LL, I'll take care of updating the right information, as it wasn't provided by the uploader). Mind that the videos were recorded, in some cases, more than ten years ago (2003 and 2011 in the example).
  • It seems as if some of the videos (one for each person) were republished by berria.eus under the so-called oroiteria project. This project focuses on the the Spanish Civil War in the Basque Country and includes, among many other materials, testimonials from people that lived the war. The page were the videos are uploaded (www.berria.eus/oroiteria/lehen-pertsonan-ikus-entzutekoak) correctly mentions the original source (although in a generic way): Ahotsak.eus proiektuak urtez urte osatutako elkarrizketa biltegitik hautatutako testigantza zatiak. (roughly translated as "Selected testimonials from ahotsak.eus"). However, berria.eus fails to respect the original license and instead republishes under its own license, which happens to be CC-BY-SA 4.0 (per licensing information). As far as I understand, a third party cannot relicense the content (but that's not important, as the original license is fine). Berria has been incorrectly provided as source in some of the videos but, as you can notice, the right source is ahotsak.eus.
  • Finally, it seems that the guys at berria.eus that created the oroiteria project created also a YouTube channel, under the same name. Unfortunatelly, they didn't provide a free license (everything that is not under a free license is copyrighted, a very basic piece of knowledge all in Commons should have). It's fine to use YouTube to upload the file (as there are tools to do it in a smooth way) but only if right source information is provided. Providing a YouTube video not under a free license is definitely a mistake and cannot be accepted as source in any way.

Therefore, IMHO opinion, it is possible to restore the files provided that the right source is provided, the files are license reviewed and {{Cc-by-sa-2.0}} is used. Do you think you can restore the files once the right source is found or a wider consensus is needed (that is, in COM:UDR)? --Discasto talk 12:47, 26 September 2018 (UTC) PS: as an aside, the deletion was not irregular. On the contrary, providing a non-free YouTube account as source is a straightfoward path to speedy deletion, as it happened.

This truly should be discussed on the deletion request and or undeletion request pages; I'm not discussing this anymore on my disk. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 05:35, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
Sure. Thanks for your understanding. --Discasto talk 07:55, 27 September 2018 (UTC) PS: @Iñaki LL: feel free to use my arguments above in your undeletion request.

Wikidata weekly summary #332

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Development
    • Fix a bug when the "language of Lemma" box doesn't appear after failed submit of Special:NewLexeme (phab:T194347)
    • Fix the order of elements in Lexeme edit diffs (phab:T185481)
    • Enable constraint checks for Lexemes and Forms (phab:T195828)
    • More work on editing Form Statements using API (phab:T194732)
    • More work on a beta feature for suggestions based on constraints (phab:T202712)

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Wikidata weekly summary #333

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Wikidata weekly summary #334

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Wikidata weekly summary #335

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  • Events
    • A Wikidata workshop will be led by Shani Evenstein, in collaboration with Wikimedia Israel & and the Israel Internet Association, on 18th & 25th of October in Tel Aviv. The first meeting will be dedicated to an introduction and adding information to WD, and the second meeting will focus on querying & SPARQL.
    • An Introduction to Wikidata by Harmonia Amanda, an Introduction to Wikibase by Sandra Müllrick and a Wikicite workshop by Miriam Redi at the Wiki Techstorm in the Dutch National Library in the Hague on the 26th & 27th of October
    • Many events to celebrate Wikidata's birthday around the world. You can check the full list and the map to find one near you

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I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY U DELETE ALL MY PIC

I saw your edit today,but i don't think it was wrong with the picture I uploaded,If there was any problem with the pictures that i uploaded,i could prove it.When i upload the pictures i always mark the provenance,have you checked the bottom of the webside page yet?There's photo identification which is same as your CC.i hope that you could delete your modification as soon as possible and please notice me before you delete any pictures that i upload,thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xxpooun (talk • contribs) 02:19, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

All of your uploads have been identified as copyright violations and have been deleted as such. Your talk page is full of notices, for the files I deleted as well. You can request undeletion here: com:Undelete --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 03:05, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #336

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  • Development
    • Several developers and members of the team attended to the Wikimedia Technical Conference
    • Fix an issue with interwikilinks and connection between Wikidata and sister projects (phab:T208077, phab:T208124)
    • Refactor Wikibase so that it can use alternative termbox views (phab:T206863)
    • Pass the entity data on the client side (phab:T207462) and server side (phab:T207467)
    • Investigate an error on some Wikidata pages (phab:T208142)

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