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Thanks
Hi, thanks for expanding Indonesia. Appreciate it ^^. Bennylin (talk) 08:42, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
- You're welcome, cheers... :) (Gunkarta (talk) 12:03, 2 December 2009 (UTC)).
SALUT A TOUT LE MONDE JE SUIS AU BENIN JE CHECHE L AIDE SI VOUS POURVRIER M AIDE SA SERA BIEN POUR MOI ET A VOUS AUSSI JE PUER A VOIT VOTRE SUR CETTE MAIL WILLIAMZANKLAN@YAHOO.FR MERCI POUR TOUT
Pak Gunkarta, I don't speak English. Kalau boleh jawab bahasa Indonesia saja. Terima kasih kembali atas pujiannya. Foto-foto itu saya potret sewaktu ke Indonesia. Senang sekali kalau ternyata bermanfaat. Tapi saya tidak pandai memotret. Foto karya Anda lebih bagus-bagus. Midori (talk) 13:02, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Wah foto-foto karya Anda lebih beraneka ragam dan bagus-bagus daripada foto-foto saya. Dan banyak pula foto makanan-makanan yang lezat. :P Bagus sekali. Anno... Midori-san no shashin wa takusan Indonesia to Nihon-ni totta desu ne.., mou shikashite.., Midori-san wa Nihon-jin desu ka? Indonesia-jin desu ka? (Gunkarta (talk) 17:36, 14 December 2009 (UTC))
- Pak Gunkarta, 私の写真気にいってもらえて光栄です。個人情報については秘密です。Midori (talk) 09:43, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Selamat pagi, mohon tanya sumber mana yang menjadi dasar peta ini? Djoehana (talk) 22:36, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Sumber yang digunakan untuk membuat peta ini:
Munoz, Paul Michel (2006). Early Kingdoms of the Indonesian Archipelago and the Malay Peninsula, 128, 141, Singapore: Editions Didier Millet.(Gunkarta (talk) 10:48, 2 November 2009 (UTC))
Pak Gunkarta yang terhormat, mohon maaf, buku Munoz tidak dianggap sebagai sumber yang terpercaya dari segi sejarah. Sejak terutama sejarawan Inggris O. W. Wolters (pengarang antara lain buku The Fall of Sriwijaya in Malay History), para peneliti tidak lagi menganggap bahwa Sriwijaya menguasai wilayah yang luas. Penguasaan wilayah itu gagasan "Barat". Orang Melayu, dan orang Nusantara pada umumnya, mementingkan hubungan dan jaringan. Dari segi wilayah, Sriwijaya hanya terdiri dari daerah yang sekarang namanya Palembang (lihat Manguin, Pierre-Yves, "The amorphous nature of coastal polities in insular Southeast Asia", Moussons, 5, 2002). Kekuatan Sriwijaya terletak pada kemampuannya menguasai perlayaran di Selat Melaka, kemungkinan besar lewat persekutuan dengan Orang Laut. Salam, Humboldt (talk) 13:57, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Please don't blank pages
Hi Gunkarta,
Thank you for your contributions to Commons. I noticed you blanked Cuisine of Betawi on Commons. I asume you meant for the page to be deleted, but blanking the page is not the right way to do this. I'd like to strongly recommend to use {{speedy| type reason here }} and add it on top of the page you would like to have deleted; This way it will be placed on a special list that administrators check regulary for deletion. Without this it might take a long time before it's noticed. Thanks again. 18:46, 2 June 2010 (UTC)–Krinkletalk
A suggestion
Hello, just wondering if you could make the title text in the graphic File:History of Indonesia.png a little easier to read. At small sizes, it's hard to read "History of Indonesia". Perhaps you could just make the text a brighter white, so that it doesn't blend in with the map in the background. Thanks. Kaldari (talk) 03:13, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, let see what I can do (Gunkarta (talk) 14:20, 23 August 2010 (UTC)).
Logo-nya bagus
Andai saja Anda membuat semua logo provinsi/kabupaten/kota di Indonesia menjadi svg. Pakai program apa, tuh supaya logonya jadi svg (seperti Logo Jateng)? Apakah bisa mengkonversi dari format jpg/png ke Inkscape? (Ezagren (talk) 14:20, 23 August 2010 (UTC)).
- Terimakasih, kalau sempat sih saya mau mengerjakannya. Saya menggunakan Adobe illustrator. Masing2 logo tetap harus "tracing" dikerjakan sesuai program vektor pada umumnya. (Gunkarta (talk) 10:39, 3 September 2010 (UTC))
- Yang premium, ya (Adobe-nya)? --Ezagren (talk) 14:31, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Biasa saja, Adobe Illustrator CS2. (Gunkarta (talk) 18:23, 3 September 2010 (UTC))
- Yang premium, ya (Adobe-nya)? --Ezagren (talk) 14:31, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
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Anna (Cookie) (talk) 18:35, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Re:Why Taman Mini Indonesia Indah files deleted ?
The map had Taman Mini Indonesia Indah logo embedded and as you can read in http://www.tamanmini.com/index.php?modul=home&lang=eng there is a clear copyright warning Copyright © 2006-2009, TAMAN MINI INDONESIA INDAH. And neither the deleted map nor the new version you have upload today have EXIF data, as the program you used to draw it so, if you copied it from a brochure and then modified it yourself it is a derivative work, not your own work. As for the logo File:TMII Logo.svg, it is not simple geometric shapes and/or text it has an original design which is likely copyrighted by the site, therefore I have opened a deletion request. Regards. Anna (Cookie) (talk) 18:37, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think there's no problem with the map now you have removed the logo.
You say: I think it is okay to redraw the logo for information sakes in wikimedia (there's tons of other logos lurking in wikimedia anyway) Well, you must remember Wikimedia Commons accepts only free content, that is, images and other media files that can be used by anyone, anytime, for any purpose. An usage for information sakes would be the equivalent of a fair use license, which isn't allowed here and the fact that there are tons of other logos doesn't justify another non permitted one must stay. Anyway, let's wait for other commoners opinions. Regards. Anna (Cookie) (talk) 19:56, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
inggeris
supercede - :) SatuSuro (talk) 01:21, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
- Hehe.. mah mistake...XP (Gunkarta (talk) 15:27, 27 April 2011 (UTC))
- tak apa apa - saya bisa lupa semua kata kata pada bhs ind SatuSuro (talk) 00:26, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
President of Indonesia
You did such amazing work with your file "Coat of Arms of Indonesia Garuda Pancasila.svg". I was wondering, would you be willing to also make this file, the seal of the President of Indonesia? It's be a great addition to Commons. Fry1989 (talk) 02:34, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- They look awesome, thank you very much :) Fry1989 (talk) 19:16, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- You know, I have to say, you've got amazing vector skills. I was wondering if you would like to help me with another project. I'm trying to get many many seals of the US made, of Governors and other State officials, similar to the Indonesian Presidential seal that you just made. I have so many that we could really use here, but I simply don't have the ability to make them myself. I have one request here for a few of them, if you're interested, though it's ok if you're not. Fry1989 (talk) 23:31, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- Are you interested my friend? :) Fry1989 (talk) 21:05, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- Nah, it's ok mate. Thanks anyways :) Fry1989 (talk) 21:31, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- They look awesome, thank you very much :) Fry1989 (talk) 19:16, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
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--Túrelio (talk) 08:04, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Berkas2 peta versi Bahasa Indonesia
Selamat malam Mas Gun yang budiman... kalau boleh saya usul, bagaimana kalau berkas2 peta2 yang sangat bagus dan sangat berharga untuk Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia karya Mas Gun dibuat versi bahasa Indonesianya biar lebih pas dengan Wikipedia Bahasa Indonesia...? contohnya File:Mataram Sultanate in Sultan Agung Reign.svg. Mohon tanggapan Mas Gun, salam dan tetap semangat, Ennio morricone (talk) 09:18, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Siap, rampung...! File:Mataram Sultanate in Sultan Agung Reign id.svg (Gunkarta (talk) 09:55, 6 June 2011 (UTC))
Wah cepat sekali... terimakasih Mas Gun! salut buat semangat Mas. Omong2.. saya ada berkas gambar peta perjalanan pasukan Jenderal Sudirman di pulau Jawa, apa kah Mas Gun bisa bantu memoles..? Salam sejahtera, Ennio morricone (talk) 21:01, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
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Sentausa (talk) 14:56, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Lambang Kepresidenan Indonesia
Hai Mas Gun, Bisakah Anda membuat lambang resmi kepresidenan (versi vektor) berdasarkan Peraturan Menteri Sekretaris Negara ini? Sebenarnya sudah ada File:PresidenRIlogo.png, tetapi sepertinya masih kurang sesuai dengan peraturan tersebut. Terima kasih atas bantuannya. :) -iNu- (talk) 08:39, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
- Makasih, Mas. :) -iNu- (talk) 16:56, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Logo Wikimania
Mas Gun, saya sedang berusaha membuat logo Wikimania 2013 yang ikonik seperti File:Wikimania_2012_logo.png atau File:Haifa_wikimania_3.png). Barangkali Anda sudah tahu bahwa saya ingin mengajukan id:Kota Surakarta sebagai tuan rumah WM 2013. Bisakah Anda menolong saya membuatkan sesuatu seperti dua contoh di atas? Ikon-ikon yang terpikirkan oleh saya adalah gaya rumah di Solo, yaitu joglo, atau bisa juga keraton di Solo, baik Kasunanan maupun Mangkunegaran, atau pilihan kedua adalah motif batik. Minta tolong ya mas kalau tidak merepotkan... Bennylin (yes?) 11:17, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- Beribu-ribu terima kasih :) Matur nuwun sanget Bennylin (yes?) 12:25, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
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High Contrast (talk) 17:57, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Lambang ke-Kutai-an
Halo, Mas Gun! Bisakah Anda membuat logo SVG dari berkas JPG berikut ini: Kutai, Kukar. Menurut saya, kabupaten ini merupakan kawasan penting di Indonesia. Beberapa waktu lalu peristiwa besar terjadi di kabupaten ini. Sebelum dan sesudahnya, saya ucapkan terima kasih. Ezagren (talk) 05:26, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
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Wikimania Surakarta Javanese
Bagaimana menurut Anda? :) Bennylin (yes?) 12:04, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
- Saya baru kepikiran kalau banner ini diberi gambar siluet wayang pasti bagus jadinya. Apa Anda bisa menolong, mas Gun? Bennylin (yes?) 12:40, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Indonesia Freedom of Panorama
Halo Gunkarta. Maaf mengganggu, sekadar memberi tahu saja. Pengguna MGA73 sedang mempermasalahkan Freedom of Panorama di Indonesia. Dalam pedoman FOP#Indonesia juga dicantumkan bahwa di Indonesia tidak ada Freedom of Panorama.
Pedoman FOP di Commons untuk Indonesia sepertinya tidak tepat. Bila memang ternyata benar, maka akan banyak foto-foto tentang Indonesia, terutama patung-patung, monumen, dan gedung-gedung yang baru dibangun.... akan dihapus dari Commons. Midori (talk) 15:15, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- Bila pemahaman saya tidak salah, "Anda ingin mengabaikan urusan Freedom of Panorama untuk menghindari kerugian banyak sekali foto tentang Indonesia yang harus dihapus dari Wikimedia Commons".
- Saya berpendapat masalah ini bukan untuk didiamkan begitu saja. Foto-foto tentang tugu, monumen, dan arsitektur Indonesia--bangunan baru--cepat atau lambat akan dihapus tanpa alasan jelas.
- Masalah FOP#Indonesia akan terus berlanjut ke kontributor lainnya yang menyumbang foto Indonesia ke Commons. Bahkan masalah ini akan berlanjut ke generasi-generasi berikutnya... setelah kita berdua tidak dapat memotret lagi karena mata sudah terlalu tua dan kedua belah tangan selalu gemetar untuk dapat memotret.
- Not OK di FOP#Indonesia menurut pendapat saya, tidak benar. Apakah penulis FOP#Indonesia itu membaca UU dari terjemahan bahasa Inggris? Apakah penulis dapat membaca bahasa Indonesia? Siapa pun dapat mengatakan tidak boleh untuk hal-hal yang tidak diketahui pasti.
- Saya asumsikan di Freedom of Panorama itu ditulis Not OK karena tidak ada pasal yang secara eksplisit menyebutkan mengenai soal itu di UU No.19 Tahun 2002 tentang Hak Cipta.
- Bagian Keempat, Ciptaan yang Dilindungi, Pasal 12 Butir (1) Huruf l:
- l. terjemahan, tafsir, saduran, bunga rampai, database, dan karya lain dari hasil pengalihwujudan.
- Ini berarti bahwa karya turunan (derivative works) diperbolehkan karena karya lain dari hasil pengalihwujudan dilindungi sebagai ciptaan tersendiri sesuai butir selanjutnya:
- Pasal 12 Butir (2)
- (2) Ciptaan sebagaimana dimaksud dalam huruf l dilindungi sebagai Ciptaan tersendiri dengan tidak mengurangi Hak Cipta atas Ciptaan asli.
- Jadi, pengalihwujudan diperbolehkan asalkan "tidak mengurangi Hak Cipta atas Ciptaan asli".
- Pengalihwujudan sebagaimana dimaksud dalam huruf l dijelaskan lebih lanjut dalam Lembaran Negara Republik Indonesia Tahun 2002 Nomor 85 mengenai Pasal 12 Ayat (1) Huruf l
- ... Yang dimaksud dengan pengalihwujudan adalah pengubahan bentuk, misalnya dari bentuk patung menjadi lukisan, cerita roman menjadi drama, drama menjadi sandiwara radio dan novel menjadi film.
- "Kalau patung boleh dijadikan lukisan, maka patung juga boleh difoto."
- Pasal-pasal di atas, menurut interpretasi saya, dapat dijadikan dasar Freedom of Panorama di Indonesia.
- Bagaimana menurut Anda? Apakah interpretasi saya benar? Masalah saya adalah bahasa Inggris saya yang jelek. Bahasa Inggris saya tidak cukup untuk bisa memperbaiki FOP#Indonesia. Maaf telah panjang lebar. Trims atas waktunya. Midori (talk) 23:48, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- Halo..., terima kasih banyak sudah ikut mendukung Freedom of Panorama di Indonesia. Kalau sempat, bisakah Anda membantu mencarikan sumber yang menyatakan bahwa sebagian besar monumen dan markah tanah dimiliki oleh pemerintah kota? Di Internet sudah saya mencarinya tapi belum ada hasil. Di Lembaran Negara atau buku kumpulan Peraturan Pemerintah mungkin ada. Saya tidak ada kesempatan ke Jakarta dalam waktu dekat ini.
- Bila ada data pendukung, Freedom of Panorama di Indonesia bisa dibuat di Commons berdasarkan Bagian Kelima Pembatasan Hak Cipta Pasal 14
- Tidak dianggap sebagai pelanggaran Hak Cipta:
- a. ...
- b. Pengumuman dan/atau Perbanyakan segala sesuatu yang diumumkan dan/atau diperbanyak oleh atau atas nama Pemerintah, kecuali apabila Hak Cipta itu dinyatakan dilindungi, baik dengan peraturan perundang-undangan maupun dengan pernyataan pada Ciptaan itu sendiri atau ketika Ciptaan itu diumumkan dan/atau diperbanyak; atau
- c. ...
- Monumen dan markah tanah dapat diklaim sebagai "karya seni lainnya hasil kebudayaan rakyat yang menjadi milik bersama" dengan perupa/pencipta tidak diketahui.
- Bagian Ketiga, Hak Cipta atas Ciptaan yang Penciptanya Tidak Diketahui
- (2) Negara memegang Hak Cipta atas folklor dan hasil kebudayaan rakyat yang menjadi milik bersama, seperti cerita, hikayat, dongeng, legenda, babad, lagu, kerajinan tangan, koreografi, tarian, kaligrafi, dan karya seni lainnya.
- Trims ya, kalau ada waktu.... Midori (talk) 14:36, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Kalau boleh sedikit koreksi---lisensi (Partially) OK dengan pengecualian memperbolehkan untuk pendidikan, non-komersial (CC-NC), menyebutkan sumber dengan lengkap---sepertinya tidak sesuai dengan lisensi Commons (CC-BY). Pengertian saya mungkin salah, tapi Pasal 15 kemungkinan besar lebih dekat ke fair use.
- Pasal 14 lebih tepat dipakai untuk partial Freedom of Panorama karena monumen dan marka tanah dimiliki oleh pemerintah---dan termasuk domain publik Pemerintah Indonesia, hasil kebudayaan rakyat yang menjadi milik bersama dan karya seni lainnya. Perupa/pembuat patung dan monumen di tempat umum hanya sedikit yang diketahui. Midori (talk) 15:02, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Ya, anda benar.
- (ii) pertunjukan atau pementasan yang tidak dipungut bayaran dengan ketentuan tidak merugikan kepentingan yang wajar dari Pencipta bisa juga dipakai.
- Oh ya panggil saya Midori, supaya lebih akrab. Midori (talk) 15:14, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Saya pernah diajak beli hape Galaxi di Mangga Dua... Dibantu diotak-atik sopir, hari berikutnya hape itu bisa baca tulis bahasa Jepang. Bahasa Jepang romaji susah dibaca dan dimengerti. Apalagi kalau kalimatnya panjang-panjang. Cape dee bacanya... Kamu nanti belajar tidak maju-maju.
- Untuk membiasakan tulisan kanji. Ada banyak cara. Karena Anda sudah mengerti bahasa Jepang, coba ikuti salah satu akun anggota AKB48 di Google+
- Pilih anggota yang kamu suka. Dari anggota sebanyak itu, tidak mungkin tidak selera dengan seorang pun. Seperti kata peribahasa Jepang, kalau senang cepat sekali menjadi pintar. Ada terjemahan mesin ke bahasa Indonesia. Shinoda Mariko[1], contohnya, dia senang menulis dan dewasa. Bandingkan dengan tulisan kanji di bawahnya. Anda bisa tertawa-tawa kalau ada terjemahan yang salah...
- Ada perkembangan baru di Commons_talk:Freedom_of_panorama#Indonesia Midori (talk) 01:41, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
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Deletion nominations
Sorry for the enormous wall of notifications! I didn't mean to pick on you. It's just that normally when I see a good-faith uploading of a photo-of-a-photo (the first nomination) I check through an uploader's files to make sure there aren't more issues. It's common not to know about freedom of panorama--that's most of the nominations. All the best, and thanks for all your other awesome Indonesia photos! Calliopejen1 (talk) 00:26, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
- I am not sure I would readily accept the interpretation as a totally thorough reading of FOP law in Indonesia - the point is that there are hundreds of borobudur photos on commons - and in my interpretation, the Indonesian government could be said to be custodian at national level of the monument - but they would have very hard battle with millions of images of the monument that exist on the internet and in published items... however the cop out is it is over 1,000 years old and out of doors... but nevertheless it costs to enter borobudur - so one part of the law can be implied - costs to get in - copyright versus free of charge no FOP restriction. I would also point out the english link at the FOP indonesian section is lost, and I would suggest there is more to the subject than meets the eye... SatuSuro (talk) 07:06, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
- Possibly not the way to respond... at callipejen's talk - you need to read the appropriate FOP item and realise that photos inside museums are probably not allowed on commons... if you dont understand - you need to check more and not ride on my doubts... so to speak... try checking the Indonesian law in indonesian - if you can access it... SatuSuro (talk) 06:55, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
- Why do you believe that freedom of panorama in Indonesia is unclear and debatable? Can you show me something in Indonesian law indicating that COM:FOP is incorrect as it relates to Indonesia? I would be happy to revise that page if your claims are correct. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:48, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Possibly not the way to respond... at callipejen's talk - you need to read the appropriate FOP item and realise that photos inside museums are probably not allowed on commons... if you dont understand - you need to check more and not ride on my doubts... so to speak... try checking the Indonesian law in indonesian - if you can access it... SatuSuro (talk) 06:55, 27 October 2012 (UTC)