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File:Bandera gay Vietnam.PNG

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Antemister (talk) 18:31, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, some gorgeous linguistic maps you have there. Care to tell where do you get your data though? For this one http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Idioma_ruso.PNG for example. 46.216.244.74 16:36, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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FunkMonk (talk) 17:50, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Idioma noruego.png

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Hacía falta un mapa de la distribución del idioma noruego, gracias por crearlo. Sin embargo, deberías incluir el archipiélago Svalbard, otra región donde este idioma es mayoritario. Además, sería bueno si pudieras indicar las fuentes. Haakon K (talk) 20:43, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Idioma letón.PNG

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Please correct the map Idioma letón according to the official information.--Pirags (talk) 22:23, 17 November 2013 (UTC) See Latvian as primary language at home by municipalities and cities (2011).svg--Pirags (talk) 22:32, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Franxo (talk) 22:45, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Franxo (talk) 22:46, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Franxo (talk) 22:47, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Franxo (talk) 22:49, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Franxo (talk) 22:50, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Franxo (talk) 22:53, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mapas de idiomas

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Hola Fobos92. El asunto ya te lo comenté en la wikipedia en español, pero no te molestaste en contestar y has seguido como si nada. El problema lo he escrito en cada uno, que viene a ser básicamente en todos la falta de referencias y los criterios aleatorios para los colores. Lo que se pide es presentar fuentes fiables.--Franxo (talk) 21:35, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He señalado los otros mapas que aparecen más abajo. No te lo tomes como algo personal, simplemente pido referencias sobre algo a lo que se opone con los otros mapas existentes. Un saludo.--Franxo (talk) 22:30, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Franxo (talk) 22:09, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mapas de lenguas

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Hola Fobos92. Te comento individualmente:

  • He cambiando mi opinión en el asunto de borrado a mantener en: noruego, irlandés, asturleonés
  • Sigo encontrando grandes diferencias con otras fuentes fiables en: bielorruso
  • Sin explicación de colores ni fuentes fiables: occitano
  • Cambiar nombre: serbio, croata, bosnio, montenegrino
    • El nombre sería: AAA dentro del serbo-croata, ya que de lo contrario no tiene sentido pintar de azul claro toda la antigua Yugoslavia. Todos son variantes de un mismo idioma, pero una no equivale a la otra a la hora de marcar las zonas.
  • Otros:
    • Danés: ¿has encontrado algo para el sur de Dinamarca?
    • Inglés: mínimos cambios, concretamente en el extremo sudoccidental de Gales, para ajustarlo más exactamente al mapa que has aportado (el que dices: Porcentaje de uso del galés). Sé que son mínimos detalles, pero si queremos ser fiables debemos ser lo más exactos posibles.
    • Francés: se sigue mezclando el concepto de lengua mayoritaria con minoritaria. El francés es mayoritario en toda Francia, otra cosa es que conviva con lenguas minoritarias en algunas zonas.
    • Sueco: sobra pintar toda Finlandia, ya que según las fuentes se habla solo en la parte azul oscuro de ese país. No lo he mirado pero... ¿se habla de forma mayoritaria en esas zonas de Finlandia o como lengua minoritaria?
    • Aragonés: re recomiendo que mires el primer mapa. Verás que el aragonés meridional es muchísimo más amplio y que la frontera con el oriental es ligeramente distinta. también se habla en el extremo norte (la "punta") de la provincia de Zaragoza. Esto último puedes verlo en el artículo de la wiki en español.
    • Finés: no hay información para justificar Estonia y tales zonas, y en caso de ser como minoritaria en todas las regiones que apunta el otro mapa... ¿no faltarían más zonas por señalar? Si no encuentras referencias que no sea ese mapa, yo personalmente despintaría Estonia y regiones adyacentes para evitarme ser fuente primaria. La fuente primera de la que sale tal información es: File:FinnishLanguageMap.JPG, archivo que no aporta ninguna fuente fiable.
    • Español en África: he revertido ediciones de momento. Que haya grupos de hablantes no significa que se hable de forma minoritaria. Si aceptáramos tal planteamiento habría que pintar casi todo el mundo... Si se decide marcar a Nigeria (y otros países), quizás sería conveniente hacerlo con otro color más claro o de tal forma que se señale claramente que el % aproximado de hablantes es muy bajo... ¿me he llegado a explicar?
    • Catalán: sigue con el mismo problema. En el Rosellón no es mayoritario, en la Valencia castellano-parlante no se habla como minoritario. Además es peligroso eso de mayoritario porque según los datos oficiales, ni siquiera es mayoritario en la Comunidad Valenciana. Te recomiendo pintar todo de un mismo color quizás o emplear los datos referenciados de la wiki en español (aparecen porcentajes).

Por último decirte que no estoy en contra de tu trabajo, sino que simplemente prefiero que todos los archivos estén explicados y bien referenciados, al igual que en la wiki, para evitar ser fuentes primarias. Estoy seguro de que lo entenderás y que solucionarás los problemas perfectamente en poco tiempo. Un saludo.

Hola Fobos92, te contestaré en el mismo orden para facilitar la comunicación.

  • Sobre el bielorruso, he intentado acceder a las Fuentes dadas en File:Belarusian lang.png pero ninguna aborda ese tema, de modo que creo que sería conveniente hacer caso a la otra fuente que tú mismo citas.
  • Del occitano queda la explicación de los colores. Creo que estaría bien decir "áreas donde se habla" o algo así para el oscuro, y para el claro "zonas influenciadas" o algo similar, ya que no es una lengua mayoritaria en ningún sitio (para bien o para mal).
  • Únicamente sobre el montenegrino decir que está bien ahora con la descripción, pero que cuando tengas algo de tiempo podrías actualizarlo y usar una resolución como la de los otros y también pintar Kosovo de azul claro. Este punto no lo digo como motive de borrado, únicamente como consejo, para que pueda ser usado más en wikipedia.
  • Del danés, yo me refería a fuentes que avalen si en esas zonas claras es realmente minoritaria o no, especialmente la de dentro de Dinamarca. Quizás si no una opción sencilla sería escribir que son "zonas donde convive con otras lenguas propias".
  • Del sueco, he añadido una imagen que habías enlazado como referencia para el fines. Se trata de File:Languages of Finnish municipalities (2008).svg , donde asegura que en 2008 la mayor parte de Finlandia es monolingüe y el sueco solo se habla en determinadas zonas. Sería más correcto que lo ajustaras a tal fuente.
  • Sobre el fines, he encontrado https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Oeraals_verspreiding-af.svg , que tiene Buena pinta y puede servir como una Buena guía para establecer las zonas fineso-parlantes.
  • Del catalán y aragonés, no digo que estén fatal, siempre es Buena idea tener mapas como tú pretendías. Para el catalán: borrar el azul claro de la Comunidad Valenciana, cambiar el de Aragón a azul oscuro y añadir Alguer (Cerdeña). El color gris claro de la fuente que añadiste indica zonas de la comunidad donde tiene estatus oficial pero sin ser zona catalano-parlante. Del aragonés, podría intentar arreglarlo yo, luego probaré.

Un saludo.--Franxo (talk) 16:13, 24 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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Hola Fobos 32,

Intentaba contactar contigo para pedirte una explicacion detallada sobre el escudo de la III republica. Los elementos añadidos como el Lauburu-cuatrefuellas y los escudos de Asturias, Vigo y Portugal los entiendo, pero no logro reconocer el simbolo bajo la granada y el Lauburu-cuatrefuellas ni el que esta entre los escudos de Leon, Navarra, Vigo y Portugal. Te agradeceria muchisimo una breve explicacion a josebika@gmail.com Un abrazo! PS. Soy nuevo en Commons y todavia no se como enviar mensajes... Bueno pero me parece un trabajo digno de reconocimiento de todas maneras. Eskualerritar (talk) 07:28, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Borrado de imágenes

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Hola Fobos92. Parte de tu sorpresa también la comparto yo... El borrado de las imágenes no la puede hacer uno individualmente sino un bibliotecario (bueno, aquí no se llaman así), pero lo que más me ha sorprendido es que aquí se tomen decisiones con solo una o dos opiniones. Además tampoco parecen estar de acuerdo en cómo proceder, unos dicen que se pueden eliminar a veces y otros dicen que no.--Franxo (talk) 19:50, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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