User talk:Electprogeny

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File:Myka Bering and H.G. Wells.jpg

File:Myka Bering and H.G. Wells.jpg has been marked as a possible copyright violation. Wikimedia Commons only accepts free content—that is, images and other media files that can be used by anyone, for any purpose. Traditional copyright law does not grant these freedoms, and unless noted otherwise, everything you find on the web is copyrighted and not permitted here. For details on what is acceptable, please read Commons:Licensing. You may also find Commons:Copyright rules useful, or you can ask questions about Commons policies at the Commons:Help desk. If you are the copyright holder and the creator of the file, please read Commons:But it's my own work! for tips on how to provide evidence of that. The file you added has been deleted. If you have written permission from the copyright holder, please have them send us a free license release via COM:VRT. If you believe that the deletion was not in accordance with policy, you may request undeletion. (It is not necessary to request undeletion if using VRT; the file will be automatically restored at the conclusion of the process.) Warning: Wikimedia Commons takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

 

Martin H. (talk) 18:41, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello Martin, I am confused about the notice of a possible copyright violation - and you noted only deleting one image, but all 3 images I had uploaded were deleted. 2 of those images were on Flickr and had the appropriately accepted license usage tags for Commons placed on those images on Flickr. The third image was one that I took, personally (though I cannot give you the name of it as the file has been deleted and I don't recall the name I gave it). For all the files I made specific notation of the Flickr tags (and marked the radio file selection for the flickr license each when I uploaded) as well as placing my own name in the authorship area for the photograph I took, personally, that was also deleted.

Can you please help me understand what makes those files possible copyright violations? Thanks.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23416062@N07/7657513306/ is a flickr account controlled and abused by you for flckrwashing. It not matters only if there is a correct license tag on flickr. It also matters who set this license tag. The copyright holder - and not some random other person - must uploaded the photo to flickr himself and voluntarily published it under a free license. A free license allows anyone to reuse the file anytime, anywhere for any purpose including money making purposes. Waiving intelectual property rights in someone else name is copyright infringeent.

The other file belongs to a tumblr person

--Martin H. (talk) 20:22, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh! Sorry, I wasn't aware we couldn't post the pictures there for our use here. I do have written permission from Eddie McClintock to use that photograph and edit it for use on the related Wikipedia article where I had them displayed. Since there was no other option for loading someone else's photograph except through Flickr I thought it made sense to do that. I can understand, though, why that wouldn't be allowed, now that I think about it. Since I have written permission from him to use these photos, what would be the best way to go about getting them put back into use?

As for the other - I am that tumblr person, but - interestingly, I never posted that photograph to my page that I can recall.

Of course there is an option, the "This file is not my own work" option. Its strange that flickr is understood as a workaround for correct uploading. Permission is not only required for YOU to "use [...] and edit it for use on the related Wikipedia article". Permission must be given that ANYONE, any person and any company, can reuse the photo anywhere, in any media, in any form, for any purpose including modification and including commercial purposes. Thats what free content in free encyclopedia means.

And im not sure why you say that someone shown in the photo [1] which is part of a photo set is the photographer. The copyright belongs to the photographer by the act of making the photo, it not belongs to the subject. --Martin H. (talk) 20:48, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I did the file is not my own work option - but it requires you to select one of those tags, unless I understood it incorrectly? I may have, sorry, I'm pretty new at all of this.

The photographer was the man in the photograph, Eddie McClintock, whom you apparently recognize. He took the photo using his mobile phone while on a break on-set.

Actually, I'm looking at the upload options again and I think I understand what you're saying - I thought I had to pick from just one of those public domain tags. I see the ones I could have used, now. Sorry to be such a newb with all this, I'll get the hang of it eventually!

How do I get the other file restored since I am the photographer, as explained in the previous response. You can check the tumblr page in question to see that I just posted about this problem.

• For the photo you say you created yourself: Ill restore it. The other photo requires a permission. A permission for a free content license which is a little broader then just using in Wikipedia, as explained above. In the upload form you must pick the copyright tag that the copyright holder agreed to.
• For your other "trouble" you describe on - redacted for privacy concerns : You try to write an article using the episodes of a series (with time specification) as a reference? Thats original research and thats not what Wikipedia is about. Think about what an encyclopedia is and how writing an encyclopedia works? Simple. Someone scholar is writing a peer-reviewed text about a subject, Wikipedia is using this secondary source and summarize it to an article about the subject. Encyclopedia is not a summary of primary sources, and so isnt Wikipedia. Simply thats the problem. Find reliable, good quality secondary sources and base your writing on this sources, never on the primary sources. --Martin H. (talk) 21:07, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm sending an email to the people who help out with the other file stuff since I am not now able to re-upload those photos. Hopefully, they can help me get that sorted. I appreciate the advice - and, no, I never intended the primary sources to be the only sources - but I absolutely NEVER intended for the sheer amount of headache I've been getting. As I described on tumblr, having people target the article unfairly (and by this I mean not that it didn't need improvement, but that they are not applying the same standard to the other character articles for the show) is a little disheartening. I'm steadily making improvements, however, and learning the ropes as I go. Thank you for your assistance!

You should correct your words on *beep* .

• The requirement is NOT: "Its ok to use on wiki". Thats insufficient permission.
• The requirement is: Anyone can reuse it, anywhere, for any purpose, including selling the photo for money and including modifications to the photo.

Thats what is required on Wikipedia for all contentent. And thats what the copyright holder must agree too, voluntarily, irrevocably. Thats free content. Thats what you agree to when writing text in Wikipedia. Thats what the copyright holder of the photo must understand and explicitely agree too - and thats something you can not assume that the copyright holder agreed too because copyright law not allows you such assumption. Free as in freedom and free as in free encyclopedia, thats why we are here. --Martin H. (talk) 23:20, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

File tagging File:Helena G. Wells on set of "Buried" for Warehouse 13.jpg

This media was probably deleted.

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Martin H. (talk) 23:21, 27 July 2012 (UTC)