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This Month in GLAM: October 2021
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Grijntjes
(OLD.).
Create a separate category for these token coins based on the information above.
Signature (Siggy) to prevent automated archiving. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 14:49, 5 November 2021 (UTC) .
Sceau du Dê Thám
(OLD.).
- Add it here.
Signature (Siggy) to prevent automated archiving. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 14:50, 5 November 2021 (UTC) .
Viettexts
(OLD.).
Check this out:
"Good recommendation. I have translations and searchable text versions of some texts on this site:
They have been sitting there for a decade, and are not very visible to the world. I still haven't completed the translation of the Dai Viet su ky toan thu part, but hopefully, I can do that early next year. I don't think Wikisource existed when I did this. It would make the most sense to put this stuff on Wikisource, as I want it to be publicly available and searchable.
Right now there are a bunch of things that I have to get done first, but I'll try to do this early next year. It's a good idea. Thanks for mentioning it!!". Signature (Siggy) to prevent automated archiving. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 14:51, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
Help me to investigate
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Hello, can you help me to investigate about a Vietnamese literature work? Several days ago, I've discovered a work about the Vietnam War, which knows as 南方来信 Letter From the South for us. I saw there is an article described that:
According above article, this should be named Letter from the Fatherland in Vietnam (in this article, 祖国来信), including a series of letters talk about the war, this was translated in Chinese in January 1964. In China, this was published between May and July of the same year, and later derived as straight play, manga, and even Peking Opera (I added them in Outline of the Vietnam War). So in China this became the most notable Vietnamese work at the times. If you're able to known about more information about this Letter from the Fatherland, I hope you let me know. Thanks. -- Great Brightstar (talk) 15:43, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Great Brightstar: , excuse the late reply as I have a lot of things off-wiki to attend to lately. Anyhow, thank you for bringing this to my attention as I have never heard of the Tổ Quốc Lai Tín (祖國來信) before and it sounds very interesting to me so when I have the time I will investigate it. But as it will be quite some time until I am available again for such things I would advise you to e-mail Lê Minh Khải at "liam.kelley@ubd.edu.bn" as he has a lot of access to PRC-North Vietnamese relations-related works and has wrote about the propaganda from both related to each other. Please update me if he gives you something. --
Donald Trung (talk) 19:09, 27 October 2021 (UTC) .--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 20:22, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
Vaticaanse munt
Moi @Quistnix: , I was het je vergeten te vertellen, maar een half jaar geleden of misschien een jaar geleden liep ik voorbij de ALDI supermarkt in 110-Morgen, Rotterdam en zag ik een paar muntjes in een plantenpot die er buiten stond, dat waren twee (2) muntjes van twintig (20) Eurocent. Ik dacht toen dat er misschien ook geld in de volgende plantenpot zou zitten dus liep ik er naar toe en ik vond meer dan ik had verwacht, ik vond een 50 (Vijftig) Eurocent munt uit het Vaticaan. Heb jij ooit zo'n mooie vondst gehad? Hoe gaat het met jou en je katten trouwens? --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:09, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
เกิร์ลลีเบอร์รี
--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 23:57, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
Caesar family tree
--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 19:15, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
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Wikidata weekly summary #494
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Tôn Thất Sa
Chào bạn, ngoài thông tin họa sĩ Lê Văn Đệ vẽ cờ vàng ba sọc đỏ cho cựu hoàng Bảo Đại tại Hong Kong, có thuyết cho rằng cụ Tôn Thất Sa (bàn với lm. Trần Hữu Thanh) vẽ cờ này tại Huế:
- Tôn Thất Bình. "Quốc kỳ Việt Nam"
- Trường Sơn (2013). "Ai đã vẽ ra lá cờ vàng ba sọc đỏ của Việt Nam?"
- Phạm Xuân Hương (2015). "Cờ vàng 3 sọc ai làm ra?"
Bạn có nhận định gì về thuyết này không ạ? Greenknight dv (talk) 04:45, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Greenknight dv: , thanks for the information, I will look at it when I will have some time, I know that many myths exist around the South Vietnamese flag but it most certainly wasn't an original flag and was likely derived from earlier flags. Though these flags were all made sometime in the years 1946~1947 largely in response to the Democratic Republic of Vietnam's national flag. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 18:55, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Newspaper
--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 11:21, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Gemeentebelangen Oldambt logo's
- Gemeentebelangen Oldambt page at Meta's Facebook.
Uploaded (it / them) to the Wikimedia Commons. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:14, 18 November 2021 (UTC) .
- https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=111094437866592&set=a.111094417866594
- Uploaded (it / them) to the Wikimedia Commons. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:14, 18 November 2021 (UTC) .
- https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=516514141888462&set=a.111094417866594
- Uploaded (it / them) to the Wikimedia Commons. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:14, 18 November 2021 (UTC) .
--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 20:21, 12 November 2021 (UTC) .
- Uploaded (it / them) to the Wikimedia Commons. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:14, 18 November 2021 (UTC) .
Viettexts
Check this out:
"Good recommendation. I have translations and searchable text versions of some texts on this site:
They have been sitting there for a decade, and are not very visible to the world. I still haven't completed the translation of the Dai Viet su ky toan thu part, but hopefully, I can do that early next year. I don't think Wikisource existed when I did this. It would make the most sense to put this stuff on Wikisource, as I want it to be publicly available and searchable.
Right now there are a bunch of things that I have to get done first, but I'll try to do this early next year. It's a good idea. Thanks for mentioning it!!". Signature (Siggy) to prevent automated archiving. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 15:33, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
大漢四川軍政府
--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 17:18, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
Chương Mỹ Bội Tinh (彰美佩星)
- Đôi nét về họa sĩ Đa Minh Tôn Thất Sa. - POSTED BY SEASHELLOC ⋅ THÁNG MƯỜI 4, 2019. Thantrinhomhue.com.
- Uploaded (it / them) to the Wikimedia Commons. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:46, 18 November 2021 (UTC) .
--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 22:34, 16 November 2021 (UTC) .
- Uploaded (it / them) to the Wikimedia Commons. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:46, 18 November 2021 (UTC) .
Published photographs to tag
--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 23:40, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
Huy Chương Việt Nam Cộng Hòa blog
- Possibly eligible if I cut out the medals.
--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 22:10, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Hallo Donald Trung, ik vroeg me af of hier niet aan promotie gedaan wordt. Thanks. Lotje (talk) 12:23, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Lotje: , Ja, er wordt hier inderdaad reclame gemaakt voor Golden City, Hồ Chí Minh-Stad, maar dat valt niet echt buiten de draagwijdte van de Wikimedia Commons. Als ik zou gokken is het een soort van "gated community" voor rijke mensen (ik bezit ook een huis in één van dit soort gemeenschappen nabij Hanoi), voor zover ik kan zien is de uploader geassocieerd met Golden City, maar ik zou ze wel verzoeken om VTRS-toestemming ter verificatie te verkrijgen. Ik denk dat dit soort uploads hier wel van waarde zijn. De meeste foto's hier hebben een Creative Commons licentie en als deze persoon wil dat ze zoo "attributed" (toegeschreven?) worden is dit niet tegen de regels, vooral sinds de gemeenschap vaak genoeg "Commons:Watermarks" heeft afgewezen om dit soort uploads juist niet te verbieden. Promotie? Ja, educatief? Óók ja. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 13:15, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Donald Trung: Bedankt voor de toelichting. Wat dat verzoek om de VTRS-toestemming betreft..., deze kelk laat ik graag aan mij voorbijgaan aangezien mijn kennis van het Vietnamees nihil is.
Lotje (talk) 13:19, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Donald Trung: Bedankt voor de toelichting. Wat dat verzoek om de VTRS-toestemming betreft..., deze kelk laat ik graag aan mij voorbijgaan aangezien mijn kennis van het Vietnamees nihil is.
- (Edit conflict), @Lotje: , Nu pas zie ik dat ze stukken grond in de nieuwe autonome regio verkopen voor 700.000.000,- koperen munten en dat geïnteresseerden hun via Zalo, Viber, of Mess kunnen bereiken. Dat is inderdaad minder educatief, alhoewel ik wel zou zeggen dat het in de toekomst historische waarde zou hebben. Verder lijkt het account mij de officiële account van de Autonome Regio die dus een nieuwe "gated community" (afgescherme gemeenschap) wil opzetten. Ik betwijfel het of zij hier veel klanten zullen vinden... --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 13:21, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Donald Trung: nieuwsgierig als ik ben: heb je er een idee van wat de tegenwaarde van 700.000.000,- koperen munten is in USD? :-) Lotje (talk) 13:29, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Lotje: , 30.873,50 Amerikaanse Dollars. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 13:44, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Donald Trung: afhankelijk van de oppervlakte van de loten, lijkt het (in vergelijking met de gangbare prijzen hier) spotgoedkoop. Lotje (talk) 13:52, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Lotje: , Zoals ik al zei bezit zelf ook een huis in een soortgelijke "gated community" in de Provincie Hưng Yên nabij Hanoi en heb je in Viëtnam met hetzelfde geld veel meer koopkracht dan in Australië en Nederland, alhoewel ik denk dat vastgoed in het Westen kunstmatig duur is dankzij gemeentelijke bouwzonebepalingen en andere factoren zoals weinig constructie en de beschikbaarheid van land. Verder zie ik niet zo zeer in waarom de Overheid van de Autonome Regio (wat trouwens een gedeelde macht is tussen een conglomeratie van grote bedrijven en Viëtnamese overheid is, deze Autonome Regio's zijn theoretisch gezien administratieve divisies maar in werkelijkheid zijn zij privébedrijven die overheidstaken tot zichzelf nemen) reclame wil maken op de Wikimedia Commons, hoeveel mensen denken zij hier te kunnen bereiken? Ik weet niet hoe populair Wikipedia is onder Viëtnamese jongeren maar onder mensen van mijn generatie is het niet iets wat veel mensen vertrouwen. Wat ik denk is dat als je iets via Google (of een andere zoekmachine zoals Ecosia) zoekt dat je dan WikipEdia als eerste (1ste) resultaat tegenkomt en zij daarom deze afbeeldingen nu uploaded zodat zij dan sneller gevonden worden. Khu đô thị Phương Toàn Phát - Golden City heeft nog geen eigen Wikipedia pagina, maar genoeg nieuwsbronnen hebben erover geschreven (sinds 2019) dat het wel benoemenswaardig genoeg is voor Wikipedia.
- Maar ja, ik moet nog een persoon tegenkomen die hun boodschappen "via" de Wikimedia Commons doet (alhoewel ik wel een paar munten heb gekocht die ik hier heb "gevonden" dus zou ik niet zeggen dat het helemaal nutteloos is om de Wikimedia Commons as reclameplatform te gebruiken). Ik heb ze al gevraagd om niet actief hier reclame te maken, maar ik moet wel toegeven dat als zij gewoon foto's van het project hier willen uploaden en de gehele proces hoe zo'n stad ontstaat en de evenementen die er gehouden zullen worden dat zij erg waardig voor de Wikimedia Commons kunnen zijn. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:02, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Donald Trung: Interessante informatie. Mocht je ooit besluiten een pagina aan te maken over "Khu đô thị Phương Toàn Phát Golden City" volg ik graag het verloop. Kan ik vast heel wat bijleren :-) Enne, wat betreft het vertrouwen van de jongeren en anderen in Wikipedia: daar moet ik je gelijk geven. Onlangs nog, toen ik een jonge Ierse vrouw in een museum aansprak over het bestaan van een Wikipedia in de Ierse taal, waar ze misschien informatie kon toevoegen over een bepaald soort schoeisel ooit gedragen door de Ieren, bleek ze totaal geen vertrouwen te hebben in Wikipedia, ...not trustworthy,... people insert their own stuff... etc. Niet bepaald hoopgevend. (zucht) Lotje (talk) 05:31, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
- Ik zou eerlijk zijn dat ik niet zou weten welke argumenten wij het beste kunnen gebruiken om mensen te overtuigen om Wikipedia en andere Wikimedia websites te kunnen laten vertrouwen. "Wikipedia, ...not trustworthy,... people insert their own stuff... etc." zij heeft wel gelijk, als letterlijk iedereen kan schrijven wat zij willen krijg je artikelen van variable kwaliteit, het beste wat je dan kan zeggen is dat als je iets fout ziet op Wikipedia dat je het dan zelf ook kan verbeteren, dat is het mooie van Wikipedia, ik zeg vaak tegen mensen "Ja, iedereen kan schrijven wat 'ie wil, dat betekent dat jij ook foute dingen van corrigeren.", plus als je mensen inlicht over hoe je zelf de bronnen in artikelen kan controleren leren zij vaak ook om meer vertrouwen in Wikipedia te hebben sinds zij zelf alle voetnoten en referenties kunnen onderzoeken. Trouwens, dit is de eerste (1ste) keer dat ik de "antwoord-toepassing" ("reply tool") gebruik. Om eerlijk te zijn wou ik gewoon kijken hoe dit werkt. -- Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:24, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Donald Trung: Interessante informatie. Mocht je ooit besluiten een pagina aan te maken over "Khu đô thị Phương Toàn Phát Golden City" volg ik graag het verloop. Kan ik vast heel wat bijleren :-) Enne, wat betreft het vertrouwen van de jongeren en anderen in Wikipedia: daar moet ik je gelijk geven. Onlangs nog, toen ik een jonge Ierse vrouw in een museum aansprak over het bestaan van een Wikipedia in de Ierse taal, waar ze misschien informatie kon toevoegen over een bepaald soort schoeisel ooit gedragen door de Ieren, bleek ze totaal geen vertrouwen te hebben in Wikipedia, ...not trustworthy,... people insert their own stuff... etc. Niet bepaald hoopgevend. (zucht) Lotje (talk) 05:31, 19 November 2021 (UTC)