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yes sir I'm using android mobile with operamini operating system. thanks. U L DAS (talk) 00:19, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
- I will copy and paste your reply to Commons:Help desk so people with more technical insights in the workings of Wikimedia Commons can reply. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 08:41, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
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This post serves as a documentation of an oversighted event, INeverCry/Daphne Lantier (the person who deleted my user page with the reason “lckt acct” despite there being no Commons policy to delete non-harmful user pages, showing their blind deletionist attitude) made an account that was my name plus a Misasiatic racial slur in reference to the shape of Oriental eyes 👀 and another slur that had originated in the Philippines originally against people of European descent but since the Korean War is used against people of Oriental descent. This person came with a request for me to let's use the metaphor “Block/Ban/Globally lock 🔒 myself in real life” (in order to not make the reference too direct), and then advocated the advance of a now deceased (Austro-Hungarian born) German politician who served as both the head of government and the head of state in Germany until the mid-1940’s when this user “blocked himself in real life” upon Soviet advance in Berlin. The greeting used by this person was “88” which is a Chinese greeting commonly used on messaging services like QQ-Messenger, WeChat, and the likes. On their own user page 📃 and user talk page they had also used various racial slurs against Orientals while advocating for a now-defunct German political party known for racial intolerance against people of Jewish, Slavic and/or Roma descent. Curiously (and in a manner typical of themselves) they had claimed to be a sockpuppet of Russavia a user that concerned themselves mostly with importing and organising images related to avation, but as this user is a deletionist I highly doubt that there’s any connection.
This post is only here to document the event for the sake of transparency as I am opposed to censorship unless requested, but as this could give a negative impression to the readers of Wikimedia Commons and possibly discourage them from participating I fully understand Odder’s reasoning for oversighting the event, and have deliberately kept out any direct quotes of the event.
This is simply a summary to describe the events for future WikiHistorians as I believe that the deletionist culture so pervasive on Wikimedia projects and the phobia of actual transparency will make it difficult for future WikiHistorians to accurately document the current period in WikiHistory. As far as I have read this post is not against any Wikimedia Commons guideline and/or policy and I have no ulterior motives or “Obvious COI” as admins would call it as I am not affiliated with or have I ever been paid by INeverCry/Daphne Lantier.
“To document, not to serve.”
Sent 📩 from my Microsoft Lumia 950 XL with Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile 📱. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 08:54, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi
I'm mainly interested in ancient coins, in the coinage of Mediterranean see (Greeks, Romans, Etruscans ...). I don't visit often commons but I am almost all days connected because I'm retired and spend a lot of my time in wiki-projects (numismatic books on source for instance) --Carlomorino (talk) 15:34, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Carlomorino: I actually came across your account when I saw that you’re the author of w:it:Van vietnamita and was interested to see if you had uploaded any images in that category. If you ever have too much time on your hands you could translate w:en:Ryukyuan mon or w:en:Southern Song dynasty coinage, w:en:Qing dynasty coinage, and the like. I personally do enjoy reading about Mediterranean coins myself and find Roman and Etruscan coins to be the most interesting though I find the sheer variety of the coins of the tribes of Gaul (including Roman Gaul) very interesting as well. If you have a collection of coins yourself you can always upload photographs to Wikimedia Commons if they’re missing here, when writing/expanding articles I often find that many coins don’t have an image here so if I have that image myself I will either scan or photograph it (or search or it on Flickr). Well, have a nice day 😊.
- Sent 📩 from my Microsoft Lumia 950 XL with Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile 📱. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 11:23, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
This Month in Education: January 2018
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- File:삼한통보 (三韓通寶) and 삼한중보 (三韓重寶) National Museum of Korea.jpg
- File:조선통보 (朝鮮通寶) National Museum of Korea.jpg
Yours sincerely, — regards, Revi 16:21, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
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20:51, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Plz help me to check the license at europeana.eu
I found lots of coin pictures at europeana.eu, like this https://www.europeana.eu/portal/en/record/91619/SMVK_EM_objekt_1299075.html, and there is a CC-BY at the webpage, can I download the pic and upload it here?--Baomi (talk) 12:53, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Baomi: it says "Can I use it? Free Re-use CC BY" which is a Creative Commons commercial application and modifications allowed license which is fully compatible with Wikimedia Commons. So yes, you're free to upload it here.
--Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 14:39, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Just click on the small arrow symbol next to the license and it should bring you to a page like this, this indicates the license and unless it states "NC" it's fully compatible with Wikimedia Commons. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 14:41, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you--Baomi (talk) 15:38, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
大清金币
I can't find more information of this coin to make the content of the article more fulfilling.--Baomi (talk) 12:56, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Baomi: Well, I'm still very happy with a results as a stub is still better than nothing. Thank you very much for the trouble, I will work on translating it to English and Dutch after I return from Hong Kong in March. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 14:42, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: January 2018
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Fæ is right – don’t make public relation for the troll in the time he badly needs it. Better, look here – if Taivo will not reply in yet some hours, I’ll present my case to admins’ noticeboard. BTW it wasn’t the first deletion of this kind by Taivo. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 13:15, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Incnis Mrsi: My only interest with that post is to try and take measures that would demotivate them from returning, INeverCry / Daphne Lantier continues to harm this website because their deletion requests get accepted. I don't take conversations to the IRC because of bad experiences there, getting banned with the message "Get out" simply because I asked if my wife was allowed to upload pictures 📷 of images I spent $ 300,- + on for Wikimedia Commons, and even though I am no longer banned there now I find the IRC community to be to unfriendly to discuss with, and prefer discussing subject matters concerning Wikimedia Commons on Wikimedia Commons as too much secret discussions are going on, but I fully agree that we shouldn't be feeding that troll, he left racist messages on my talk pages asking me to end my life so I have no intention to please him, especially not after he deleted my old user page. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 17:25, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
- Do not afraid INeverCry himself… beware his covert sympathizers. It is not unexpected given that he was rather highly esteemed for several years here, by a considerable part of the community. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 17:43, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
- Alright, I will apply w:en:WP:DENY to him, I will archive this conversation now to keep INeverCry's influence to a minimum, I don't like feeding that troll anymore than you do, but unless we have concrete methods to demotivate him from returning by nominating good faith uploads for deletion he will return, and as he has nothing to lose he will continue trolling people in the West ⬅ way he does. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 18:14, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
- Do not afraid INeverCry himself… beware his covert sympathizers. It is not unexpected given that he was rather highly esteemed for several years here, by a considerable part of the community. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 17:43, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
Signature
Hello, Please remove the "The Chinese Coin Troll (+link to your SPI case at enwiki)" part from signature, importing drama to commons from other wikis is disruptive and per standard practice not allowed. I am referring to Commons:Do not disrupt Commons to illustrate a point, Commons:Signatures, COM:MELLOW, Commons:Talk page guidelines.--Steinsplitter (talk) 20:37, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
- It's changed. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 20:50, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you and good luck with the Numismatics project. --Steinsplitter (talk) 20:52, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
Source of derivative work is not properly indicated: File:Louisiana Museum (33765433456) (2).jpg
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Secondarywaltz (talk) 21:54, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Source of derivative work is not properly indicated: File:Louisiana Museum (33649785732).jpg
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A file that you have uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, File:Louisiana Museum (33649785732).jpg, is a derivative work, containing an "image within an image". Examples of such works would include a photograph of a sculpture, a scan of a magazine cover, or a map that has been altered from the original. In each of these cases, the rights of the creator of the original must be considered, as well as those of the creator of the derivative work.
While the description page states who made this derivative work, it currently doesn't specify who created the original work, so the overall copyright status is unclear. If you did not create the original work depicted in this image, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. Please edit the file description and add the missing information, or the file may be deleted. If you created the original content yourself, enter this information as the source. If someone else created the content, the source should be the address to the web page where you found it, the name and ISBN of the book you scanned it from, or similar. You should also name the author, provide verifiable information to show that the content is in the public domain or has been published under a free license by its author, and add an appropriate template identifying the public domain or licensing status, if you have not already done so. Please add the required information for this and other files you have uploaded before adding more files. If you need assistance, please ask at the help desk. Thank you! |
Secondarywaltz (talk) 21:56, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Louisiana Museum 🏛
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File:Louisiana Museum (33765433456) (2).jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.
If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. |
Donald Trung (Talk 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 08:26, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Louisiana Museum 🎨
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File:Louisiana Museum (33649785732).jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.
If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. |
Donald Trung (Talk 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 08:27, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
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File:Louisiana Museum (33649785732).jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.
If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. |
Donald Trung (Talk 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 08:34, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
This is a test to see if I can save this without a new section header. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 08:34, 12 February 2018 (UTC)