User talk:Crwright
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Hi Crwright. Thank you for your notations at the subject file. I've looked for a clear source on the subject matter and find that different square-rigged ships are rigged differently. A case in point is the location of the halyards. Perhaps you could engage at File talk:Square rigged sail parts and running rigging.jpg#Corrections needed?. This is a preferable option to editing the description directly. Sincerely, HopsonRoad (talk) 20:19, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- Hi HopsonRoad. Sorry to have leapt in, I'm finding the interface for contacting or communicating with another contributor somewhat impenetrable. I haven't actually used this account in years... and it's rather different now. Sorry 'bout that. I did figure that a minor edit would get someone's attention and perhaps I'd get a message and be able to respond!
- I will try to find you some good references - although I'm not sure I have all of my books here. There are certainly many ways to rig a square sailed ship (over the years they were designed) as you point out, but I've never seen one with halyards on the yardarms. 10+ years sailing them and a couple of years serving as a Bo's'n & rigger aboard one are my most direct reference. That yard weighs well over a ton, and is lifted by a very heavy chain running through a sheave in the mast - attached to one or more iron/steel cables and a system of blocks and a line (the halyard) to the deck. The thin clewlines in your photo would be unlikely to be able to support that yard (unless, I suppose, they are made of dyneema/spectra line.) I may also be able to offer more of my own photos which I would happily release to the public, if you would like more detail from which to work. Now where do I find this signature tool? (-Charlie/Crwright) --Crwright (talk) 22:36, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking in here, Charlie. To get my attention, you can use [[User:HopsonRoad]]. For the time being, I have reverted your edit, although I recognize that I may have misread the purpose of the lines that are visible. The lines that I called "halyards" appear to be attached to the yard arm, rather than the clews of the sail. That's why I labeled them, as I did. I'll watch this page. However, it's better to hold the discussion at File talk:Square rigged sail parts and running rigging.jpg. Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk)
- Sure, and edit is as you like, I doubt it will lead to the mis-rigging of any tall ships. Most bo's'ns I know still tend to stick to their own libraries and logs. I've yet to put hands on the books I had in mind, as I think they are in Galveston, but the two I think mostly likely to help you out here are Darcy Lever's "The Young Sea Officer's Sheet Anchor : Or a Key to the Leading of Rigging and to Practical Seamanship" (ISBN-13: 978-0486402208) and Underhill's "Masting and Rigging: The Clipper Ship and Ocean Carrier " (ISBN-13: 978-0851741734). I may have other, more obscure, books as well, but those excellent references are relatively easy to find today. When I find my own copies, I will try to send you useful page references. I will plan to move any discussion to the page in question, if I can figure out how. I'm still a little lost in navigating all the various layers of Wikipedia... cheers, Charlie --Crwright (talk) 19:10, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, Charlie. You can just click on this link to take you there: File talk:Square rigged sail parts and running rigging.jpg. Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 21:30, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
- Sure, and edit is as you like, I doubt it will lead to the mis-rigging of any tall ships. Most bo's'ns I know still tend to stick to their own libraries and logs. I've yet to put hands on the books I had in mind, as I think they are in Galveston, but the two I think mostly likely to help you out here are Darcy Lever's "The Young Sea Officer's Sheet Anchor : Or a Key to the Leading of Rigging and to Practical Seamanship" (ISBN-13: 978-0486402208) and Underhill's "Masting and Rigging: The Clipper Ship and Ocean Carrier " (ISBN-13: 978-0851741734). I may have other, more obscure, books as well, but those excellent references are relatively easy to find today. When I find my own copies, I will try to send you useful page references. I will plan to move any discussion to the page in question, if I can figure out how. I'm still a little lost in navigating all the various layers of Wikipedia... cheers, Charlie --Crwright (talk) 19:10, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking in here, Charlie. To get my attention, you can use [[User:HopsonRoad]]. For the time being, I have reverted your edit, although I recognize that I may have misread the purpose of the lines that are visible. The lines that I called "halyards" appear to be attached to the yard arm, rather than the clews of the sail. That's why I labeled them, as I did. I'll watch this page. However, it's better to hold the discussion at File talk:Square rigged sail parts and running rigging.jpg. Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk)
