User talk:BJTsan

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Bencleugh painting

Thankyou for uploading a photograph of a painting of a sailing ship called Bencleugh, which you used to illustrate the Wikepedia article John Sen Inches Thomson. The article describes the ship as "a 66-ton wooden schooner", but the ship in the painting is neither a schooner nor 66 tons. She is a fully-rigged ship of several hundred tons.

Bencleugh or Bencleuch, after the hill Ben Cleuch, was repeatedly used as a name for ships. William Thomson & Co of Leith had a 352-ton Bencleuch built in 1853, which was sunk in 1869 in the Baltic. Wm Thomson & Co then had a 1,418-ton Bencleuch built in 1875, which was sold in 1898 and renamed. William Thomson became Ben Line, whose later ships called Bencleuch were steamships.

The Bencleugh in your painting cannot be the schooner that was wrecked in 1877. Do you think it could be the Bencleuch that was built in 1853 and sunk in 1869? Best wishes, Motacilla (talk) 14:55, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Dear Motacilla,

You are quite right! I mistook a schooner for a ship. My grandfather inherited this painting of the original 1853 Bencleuch from his father who was the son of Watson Thomson.. an investor in many of the early Ben Line ships which his first cousins Alexander and William set up in 1825. I was confused because although my grandfather told me and family members many times it was the Bencleuch, my grandfather's father Andrew and Uncle named their schooner Bencleugh after the original 1853 ship.

Blair 142.114.139.29 02:21, 11 August 2022 (UTC)