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{{Creator:Anonieme meester…}}

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Hello.

Понятия не имею, как работает pattypan, но мусор наподобие Creator:Anonieme meester, Zuidelijke Nederlanden, tweede helft 16de eeuw оставлять не надо — такие шаблоны никому не нужны и создаваться не будут. Можно использовать Creator:Unknown, а что до анонимов, то тут не lurkmore и их презирают во всех видах.

Incnis Mrsi (talk) 11:23, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Добрый день, Pattypan действительно оказался не самый лучший способ автоматически создавать линк с Wikidata-record для creator. В некоторых случаях даже существующие records не были найдены в процессе загрузки. Я действительно могла использовать Creator:Unknown, но это описание не во всех случаях подходит. Именно поэтому я жду результатов проекта Commons:Structured data.
По поводу мусора: 'Anonieme meester, Zuidelijke Nederlanden, tweede helft 16de eeuw' - это официальное описание creator от источника, то есть самого музея (источник: Q21674146 и 0000_GRO0524_I). Речь идет не о lurkmore-анонимах, а о художниках. Для их описания существуют правила. То что вы не знакомы с правилами описания работ искусства и то что Wikimedia Commons пока ещё не в состоянии эти описания в полной мере принять, ещё не значит что это 'мусор', который 'презирают во всех видах'. Наверное можно было поспокойнее формулировку использовать. Alina data (talk) 11:54, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Рад увидеть какой-то ответ по существу дела. Смотрим на d:Q21674146 #P170 (кстати, не мучайтесь со ссылками [http://…/name name] и учите префиксы interwiki) и видим, что значением является эм… аноним. Pattypan смотрит в Викиданные? Если смотрит, то скажите разработчикам, чтобы не вписывал в этом случае в поле artist ерунду типа {{Creator:Anonieme meester…}}, а ставил описание из БД музея чистым текстом, без обрамления в {{Creator:…}}, или (при отсутствии такового) {{Creator:Unknown}}. И проблема решена. Я уважаю музеи и архивы со своими правилами, но у Викисклада тоже есть свои обычаи.
Да, и ещё – раз женский род в 1л.ед.ч., то подкрутите нужный флажок в Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-personal, и будет у собеседников меньше когнитивного диссонанса когда ещё придётся по-русски изъясняться.
Incnis Mrsi (talk) 12:17, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Да, действительно. Выбор между описанием из БД музея чистым текстом и {{Creator:Unknown}} - это хорошее решение проблемы. В будущем так и буду делать. Alina data (talk)
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Copyright status: File:Bloemen in een vaas, Daniël Seghers, MMB.0078.jpg

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Thanks for uploading File:Bloemen in een vaas, Daniël Seghers, MMB.0078.jpg. I notice that the file page either doesn't contain enough information about the license or it contains contradictory information about the license, so the copyright status is unclear.

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Jcb (talk) 21:38, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jcb: thank you for the remark. This file was uploaded during a live demo and afterwords I forgot to fix the license from 'cc-by' to 'cc-by-4.0'. It is fixed now.--Alina data (talk) 08:01, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

File:Madonna, circa 1632 - circa 1700, Groeningemuseum, 0040544001.jpg

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Madonna

Hoi Alina, File:Madonna, circa 1632 - circa 1700, Groeningemuseum, 0040544001.jpg is een andere afbeelding dan op http://resolver.groeningemuseum.be/collection/work/id/0000_GRO0380_I . Enig idee wat hier fout is gegaan? Multichill (talk) 10:02, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Multichill: Geen idee. Ik denk dat er iets mis is gegaan met de link tussen Lukasweb en het Groeningemuseum. Of het is een voor en achterkant van het object? Ik zal je vraag op mail zetten naar VKC, Lukasweb en Groeningemuseum met u in cc.--Alina data (talk) 19:18, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

bad sources

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File:Kopie naar Grévin, James Ensor, circa 1860-1949, Koninklijk Museum voor Schone Kunsten Antwerpen, 2712 26.001.jpeg and File:Huis, narren, portret, James Ensor, circa 1870-1880, Koninklijk Museum voor Schone Kunsten Antwerpen, 2708 24V.001.jpeg were linked to wrong Wikidata IDs (for other artworks by the same artist). Also listed source seem to be wrong as it shows different images. --Jarekt (talk) 15:37, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jarekt: Thanks for pointing this out. I will research this and contact the The Royal Museum of Fine Arts Antwerp for an explanation. --Alina data (talk) 08:40, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Jarekt: This was the problem:
Thanks for looking this up. I think it is quite clear to have verso and recto sides of a drawing. Although, it would be nice if there was some external source with that information, so it is less confusing in the future. I usually like to have one Wikidata item per inventory number, so if the Museum catalog them that way, than that is what we should stick to. If you are talking to The Royal Museum of Fine Arts Antwerp there are few more confusing records of James Ensor works:
All those records have creator, institution, inventory number and dead URL. We should either expand those items, add images, etc. or delete them. Perhaps the museum can tell us if there are still objects with such ID or not. --Jarekt (talk) 14:30, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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