User talk:Alexbdf
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Characters components
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村 is a compound of 木 & 寸 in modern script,
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but the left component of that one is 屯,
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and the right one is 邑.
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seal-木, see Category:ACC containing seal-木.
Hello, Alexbdf
Indeed, 村 in small script is that picture, but the components are actually 屯 and 邑, so that the character in small script is actually 邨, a composition variant of 村. Characters compositions do vary, so it's OK to name it 村-seal.svg (and duplicate it as 邨-seal.svg would be also correct).
But the "component1=" parameters are meant to classify compound characters according to their components. If you indicate "component1=木", it will automatically be classified as Category:ACC containing seal-木 - which is obviously not the case, there is no seal-木 in that drawing. And same thing with 寸, the character is really a "|component1=屯|component2=邑".
Actually, a wrong identification is not as bad as a missing one, since browsing through the corresponding category makes it easy to spot wrong identifications. For instance, in Category:ACC containing seal-木, it's easy to see that 泥-seal.svg and 禖-seal.svg shouldn't be there (I'll probably correct it some day). But since it's easy to see it, it can be corrected on the spot by any collaborative work, whereas a missing identification goes unseen and cannot be corrected.
- The bottom part of 早-seal.svg is File:甲-seal.svg, not 十. And for the 早-bronze.svg bottom part, I would use either "?" (unidentified) or more probably "Misc" (idiosyncratic and irrelevant for classification purpose).
- The 先 family needs not to be decomposed, since the character has several compounds, but the Category:ACC containing 先 was missing, so I created it. That category should itself be categorized into the Category:6 strokes ACC components, since the modern character component (in this case, appearing alone) has six strokes.
- Categories are always named after the full form of the character, so that File:花-bigseal.svg should be flagged by 艸 to be correctly retrieved, not 艹.
- Idem, the 化 category should be crated, and the components should be re-indexed in that category. I'll do that one.
- Though it appears to be compound, 交 is etimologically a single picture (see https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E4%BA%A4) so Category:ACC containing 交 should be created.
... and so on, you can proofread your uploads
![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/%E6%9C%AC-bigseal.svg/220px-%E6%9C%AC-bigseal.svg.png)
By the way, the "stroke numbers" of non-compound characters make it easier to identify non-familiar drawings (such as 邑-seal) : the stroke count is quite obvious in that case, and you can then identify 邑-seal by browsing in [[:Category:3-stroke ancient Chinese characters ]] - that's the idea why the stroke numbers should be given for non-compound characters.
As for your 本-bigseal.svg, the description is incomplete : 本 should be completed by the bottom part of the character, which is 品. But since there is no 品-category, it should be classified under 口 (or the Category:ACC containing 品 category could be created). Actually, though, a red-link category is not so dramatic : either the category is useful, in which case it will be created sooner or later, or the character is an hapax, and its identification is irrelevant.
I can't correct all that right away since I've got a train to catch in the real life, but keep on doing good job, the pictures are fine.
Yours, Michelet-密是力 (talk) 07:38, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
- Hello, Alexbdf,
- Of course "ACClicense|青|seal|s03660|strokes=0|component1=" is quite acceptable for compound characters (since the stroke count is irrelevant in that case) ; if you can it would be better to put "ACClicense|青|seal|s03660|strokes=|component1=" when the character is obviously a non-compound one, so that it can easily be spotted and completed afterwards.
- Or, better yet, something like "ACClicense|青|seal|s03660|strokes=?|component1=" so that "help needed" is obvious in that case; and a systematic proofread can be made by someone.
- I'll probably come back to you to proofread tutorials on these two parameters, since I've discovered that these points were unclear. A first tutorial on stroke count is there Template:ACClicense/Strokes, if you have any comment they will be wellcome.
- Yours, Michelet-密是力 (talk) 06:24, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Wyang uploads
[edit]Wyang's bot has been blocked because it was not authorized, and there are several strong objection against its being used as is (see Commons:Bots/Requests/Wyangbot). Keep on doing your uploads, they are useful whatever Wyang does. Michelet-密是力 (talk) 07:09, 16 July 2016 (UTC)