User:Yug/Camera

Hello, please can you tell me Which camera you used to make a good Macro and at what price ?. If you read this page, it's likely that you already took nice macro shots and shared them on commons. I sadly have NO KNOWLEDGE on digital cameras, but I want to add to this page various interesting (quality/price) Cameras, for various key prices (150, 200, 300, 400, 500, 700, 1000 US$).

I plan to buy a camera, and I'm interested to produce macro photographs for commons that's why I ask your advice, but I will also keep this list for other users. Your can answer below by creating a section about your camera (follow the example below). 220.135.4.212 09:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Help needed to expand this page

Your advice will provide a list of "recommended (confirmed good) Macro-Cameras", with good quality/price rate. This will help users that are interested in providing good photographs to the commons to buy a suitable camera. Also if you can, coordinate and overview this little project, or fully manage it. The best suited would be a user with good experience on many cameras of various brands, which by his knowledge can provide a list of good quality-priced cameras (if possible of the same series, to allow cross help).

You can have some help by looking at pages such as 2007-Select-Awards by digitalcamerainfo.com, this other selection, http://www.flickr.com/cameras , or eisa-awards.eu by the European Imaging and Sound Association. Less suitable, you can also look at Cannon's awarded cameras, and the camera use by noticable photographers on en.wiki and on on Commons. Further research is encouraged, of course.

Overview

as of 2008/03/30
NT$	Euro	US$
14.000	291	460
13.000	271	427
12.500	260	411
12.000	250	395
11.000	229	361
10.000	208	329
interesting

Recommended camera based on 2007 Select Awards by digitalcamerainfo.com
Price(s)	Category	Name & Type (Cpt VS DSLR)
~$499/$429	Best under $600	Canon PowerShot G9, ?
~$399/$?	Best under $400	Sony Cyber-shot DSC-H7, ?
~$250/$159	Best under $300	Canon PowerShot A720 IS, ?
~$199/$139	Best under $200	Panasonic Lumix DMC-LZ7, ?
~$149/$100	Best Budget	Panasonic Lumix DMC-LS70 , compact.

$499/$303	Best Hybrid	Canon PowerShot S5 IS, note: optical Zoom x12 ;
$399/$297	Best ultra-zoom	Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ18, note: optical Zoom x18 ; good comment about its lens,

Note :

Megapixels don't matter any more
Lens seems matter more. (source need)

Deeper analysis according to Digitalcamera.com provided datas

I noticed the folowing fields which I think critical event if I don't fully understand what each means :


Canon PowerShot S5 IS (fr) : Best Hybrid, $499 to $303.
Lens :	12x optical zoom	the zoom by the Lens. This is important. The digital zoom being simply "cropping" the image to display a part in full screen.
Compatible Lenses :	optional teleconverters	means that I can change the lens if I have money to do so, by adding an attachment to it.
Lens Mount	(no data)	This means no way to change the lens.
Auto Focus Type:	TTL AF	Through The Lens Auto Focus, i.e. the sensor that measures the distance to the subject and determines the setting of the auto focus are made through the lens of the camera.
Detecting Range:	SuperMacro Wide: 0 - 3.9 in. Macro Wide: 3.9 in. - 1.6 ft.; Normal Wide: 1.6 ft. - infinity; Normal Tele: 3 ft. - infinity;	The super macro and Macro-wide seems interesting for me, what the difference ?
Zoom Wide / Zoom Tele	36 // 432	35mm equivalent zoom range
Speed

Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ18 (here too - fr) : Best ultra-zoom, $399 to $297. Note: optical Zoom x18 ; 8.10 Mpx (effective); good comment about its lens.
Lens :	Leica DC Vario-Elmarit 18x optical zoom
Compatible Lenses :	n/a	not applicable
Lens Mount	no	This means no way to change the lens.
Auto Focus Type:	(no data)
Focusing Modes	Manual, Continuous, One Shot, AF/MF switchable, continuous AF on/off
Detecting Range:	• Macro: 1 cm-infinity • Macro Wide: 200cm–infinity;(tele 6-11x) • Normal: 30 cm-infinity (wide) 200 cm - infinity (tele) • Tele Macro (at 12-18x) : 100cm - infinity
Zoom Wide / Zoom Tele	28 // 504
Speed

Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ8 (here too) : interesting sub-FZ18 camera found by myself, $290 to $227. Note: optical Zoom x12 ; 7.2Mpx (effective).
Lens :	12 x optical zoom (11 lenses in 8 groups)
Compatible Lenses :	n/a
Lens Mount	no
Auto Focus Type:	(no data)
Focusing Modes	AF/AF Macro/MF switchable, Manual, Continous A/F On/Off
Detecting Range:	Macro Wide: 5cm-infinity; Simple Wide: 5cm-infinity; Macro Tele: 200cm-infinity; Tele Macro: 100cm-infinity; Normal Wide: 30cm-infinity; Normal Tele: 200cm-infinity; Simple Tele: 200cm-infinity
Resolution Max/min	3072 x 2304 // 640 x 480
Zoom Wide / Zoom Tele	36 // 432
Speed

Nikkon D40 (SLR) : interesting SLR camera found by myself, $599 to $429. Note: 2 lens ; optical Zoom x? ; 6.1Mpx (effective). Seems too expensive for me.
Lens :	18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED II AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor kit lens
Compatible Lenses :	Nikon F mount lenses (with AF coupling and AF contacts), type G or D AF Nikkor
Lens Mount	0.00	what means that ?
Auto Focus Type:	TTL phase detection
Focusing Modes	single AF, dynamic AF, dynamic AF with subject priority, manual
Detecting Range:	EV -1 to +19 (ISO 100)	what that? Light intensity that meter can handle.
Resolution Max/min	3008 x 2000 // 2256 x 1496 // 1504 x 1000
Zoom Wide / Zoom Tele	55 // 18
Speed

Commons' users' cammeras

Confirmed good- camera for various price
Price	Name	Type (Cpt VS SLR)	Example of Wasp/Bee/Fly picture and comment.
~$450	Sony Cybershot DSC N2	Compact
~$699/$599	Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi	SLR	Has been named the "Sub-$800 DSLR" by DigitalCameraInfo.com , Select Awards 2006.

If need, feel free to had "Good quality-price Landscape cameras".

Trounce's "Sony Cybershot DSC N2"

For those photos I used a Sony Cybershot DSC N2. It was (very generously!) given to me as a gift, so I am not exactly sure how much it was. It is a "Compact" camera. It has a macro feature on it, but the photo of the wasp has been cropped and the contrast slightly tweaked in Photoshop. I am not sure if you are looking for a compact camera or an SLR. If you can afford it, an SLR would be better.

If its a compact your after, I'd check out some of the camera review sites and see is there any camera that is particularly good for macro photography. Otherwise, get an SLR and simply buy a good macro lens.

Camera review sites: dpreview and steves digicams --Trounce 11:43, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Alvesgaspar, Konica-Minolta A200

Your wasp picture is quite good, considering that it was taken with a relatively cheap camera. However, I suspect that the wasp was not alive during the experience, such sharpness makes us suspicious. Of course, it is possible to shoot great macro pictures with "point-and-shoot" or "bridge-type" cameras. Many of my macro featured pictures (see here)were taken with a Konica-Minolta A200. But if you want high quality close-ups like this one you need a DSLR. And then, the question is not which camera should be chosen (they are all good enough) but which lens. A good macro lens for a DSLR costs a lot,I would say $400+; the best lenses, capable of extreme close-ups of 1:1 and better may cost about $800-$1000. I have solved the problem with an older Tokina lens in second hand and some extension rings. -- Alvesgaspar 10:22, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

I think the wasp was alive, but close to die. I often "meet" on the ground such insect which are really friendly and calm because they will die in the day. The picture of the wasp was take with a US$ 450's camera... you said it's "cheap".... (O.O !!!) I plan to buy a camera about $250 to $450 max. -___-" And I think I will buy something more about 250 than 450.... Dam ! ;( 140.122.97.4 03:48, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

The wasp was alive. However, It was quite drowsy, and didn't move around much. I don't know if wasps hibernate, but for some reason I presumed it was waking up after hibernation. It was taken in spring.--Trounce 14:52, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

User:BerlinSight, Canon EOS 5D

I took this picture as an example of what you can expect from a full frame DSLR camera. Didn't have much time to focus, as my cat was moving her head randomly. I concentrated on his nose, whiskers and long eyebrows and hit the button when I saw the perfect picture. Of course, using an auto-focus here, I quite probably would have gotten something in focus - just as you quite likely will hit something, if you shoot a buckshot into a school of birds.

The [EOS 5D] is out of production but available second hand around 800$ for the body on ebay. A 50mm fixed focal length lens and an extension ring for Macro photography should not cost more than 350 - 400$. If that is cheap, depends ;-) but I learned photography with a 35mm film SLR and that's the cornerstone for my rating.

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