English subtitles for clip: File:Smoke Ban ABC.ogv
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1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:09,040 In Britain, the idea of segregating smokers and non-smokers was tried in a few pubs without much success. 2 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:13,040 The smokers complained about discrimination and finally won the fight 3 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:16,260 to allow them to blow smoke over whomever they pleased. 4 00:00:16,260 --> 00:00:20,860 Although, it's not the active exerting smoke in crowds which really concerns pollution busts; 5 00:00:20,860 --> 00:00:25,253 it's the sidestream from the end of the cigarette which concerns non-smokers. 6 00:00:25,250 --> 00:00:29,013 But would smokers here support the idea of having rooms or bars to themselves? 7 00:00:29,013 --> 00:00:30,373 I would not. 8 00:00:31,740 --> 00:00:37,200 I would say that two-thirds of people smoke and my wife doesn't smoke. 9 00:00:38,813 --> 00:00:42,626 It'd be a pretty poor show if she had to go into a separate bar in order to have a drink. 10 00:00:42,626 --> 00:00:47,533 As a non-smoker do you support the idea of separate bars for smokers and people like yourself? 11 00:00:47,533 --> 00:00:49,040 No, not really. 12 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:55,806 It doesn't worry me provided so if it's a big enough room that you're in at the time. 13 00:00:55,806 --> 00:01:02,130 Already buses and other forms of public transport carry smokers and non-smokers in separate spaces 14 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:08,130 so segregation supporters can't see any reason why this idea should not be extended to include other public areas, 15 00:01:08,130 --> 00:01:10,200 such as restaurants and hotels. 16 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,920 I agree with those who say there are four great epidemics in the Western world today, 17 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,720 one is tobacco addiction, another is obesity, 18 00:01:17,730 --> 00:01:21,900 another is unwanted pregnancy, and the fourth is road accidents. 19 00:01:21,900 --> 00:01:26,560 Dr. Earle Hackett is Chairman of the Anticancer Foundation Scientific Advisory Committee. 20 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,640 Does he think legislation would help control where and when people smoked? 21 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,110 You can't legislate for good manners. 22 00:01:34,370 --> 00:01:37,040 You could only bring this about, I suppose, 23 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:42,550 by being well-managed yourself in the first place because you can't beat people into good manners, either. 24 00:01:42,550 --> 00:01:47,360 But insofar as on the Anticancer Foundation we're concerned about smoking 25 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:53,170 we certainly support the views of non-smokers who don't like people smoking 26 00:01:53,170 --> 00:01:56,960 right close to them in an ill-considered way 27 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,940 but you couldn't possibly legislate to change people's habits— 28 00:02:00,940 --> 00:02:03,213 Well, you could suggest, you could suggest, though, 29 00:02:03,213 --> 00:02:08,520 do you think are smokers the sort of people who would follow that suggestion 30 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,306 if a sign said in a bar, 'No smoking in this bar?' 31 00:02:12,133 --> 00:02:18,410 Well, I think smokers pay less and less attention to non-smoking signs. 32 00:02:18,410 --> 00:02:25,173 I see people in public transport in non-smoking seats or non-smoking carriages. 33 00:02:25,173 --> 00:02:27,600 Smoking, they pay no attention to it. 34 00:02:27,603 --> 00:02:33,370 I think smokers should realize that non-smokers hope 35 00:02:33,370 --> 00:02:37,708 that that convention will be obeyed when they go and sit in a non-smoking area. 36 00:02:37,700 --> 00:02:42,800 You can ask in an airplane these days whether you can have a seat in a non-smoking area 37 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:48,118 and I often do that but inevitably someone sits down beside me and smokes. 38 00:02:48,118 --> 00:02:53,400 So really the system isn't working all that effectively and ideas to extend the scheme 39 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,613 are probably nothing more then a pipe dream. 40 00:02:55,613 --> 00:02:58,400 But smokers could help with a little consideration. 41 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,720 As Dr. Hackett says, you can't legislate for good manners. 42 00:03:07,438 --> 00:03:09,426 [bell ringing] 43 00:03:10,066 --> 00:03:14,890 In five minutes, we'll no longer be able to smoke cigarettes 44 00:03:14,890 --> 00:03:18,883 [crowd booing] in a licensed area in Victoria! 45 00:03:18,883 --> 00:03:24,773 City revelers had mixed emotions about the end of going out for a drink and to social smoke. 46 00:03:24,770 --> 00:03:26,524 BAR PATRON: Now we are ostracizing people. 47 00:03:26,524 --> 00:03:30,427 Now, I think that's discrimination, absolutely, 48 00:03:30,427 --> 00:03:32,730 It's discrimin— - because now we can't smoke anywhere. 49 00:03:32,730 --> 00:03:36,386 No, I think that like for one month everyone is going to be in shock 50 00:03:36,386 --> 00:03:40,004 and then we're all gonna rejoice in smoke-free areas. 51 00:03:40,004 --> 00:03:44,746 There was a particularly nostalgic atmosphere at Baranows Cigar Lounge in Hawthorn. 52 00:03:44,740 --> 00:03:47,360 At midnight with our own bar here, 53 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,514 our government decided even in the cigar lands we can't smoke. 54 00:03:50,514 --> 00:03:55,360 Bar managers now have a nervous wait before them to see how the ban affects business 55 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:00,230 but venues with outdoor areas for smokers are focusing on the positive side. 56 00:04:00,230 --> 00:04:06,746 BAR STAFF: We have fourteen staff here and only one staff member smokes, so 57 00:04:06,746 --> 00:04:09,033 I think they gonna be really, really, really happy. 58 00:04:09,033 --> 00:04:13,427 Bar staff reported a good level of awareness among patrons about the change, 59 00:04:13,427 --> 00:04:18,053 however, some say it's unclear how councils plan to enforce the new law. 60 00:04:18,053 --> 00:04:20,880 It's really vague, we don't know what we're doing, 61 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:26,333 we don't know what kind of subsidies we're getting for ashtrays and for our outdoor renovations. 62 00:04:26,333 --> 00:04:29,286 All we know is that we have to stop people from smoking— 63 00:04:29,286 --> 00:04:32,950 Those who break the law face a $110 fine. 64 00:04:32,950 --> 00:04:38,346 The Department of Human Services says there were no reports of fines being issued overnight. 65 00:04:38,340 --> 00:04:41,240 Emma Roy Sullivan, ABC News, Melbourne.