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The President:
Good morning, everybody.

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Please be seated.

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As always, it is a great
pleasure to welcome

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my close friend and partner,
Chancellor Angela Merkel,

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back to the White House.

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Angela, of course, has
been here many times.

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But this visit is a chance for
me to congratulate her

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on two achievements.

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Well into her third term,
Angela is now one of Germany's

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longest-serving chancellors.

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Perhaps more importantly, this
is my first opportunity

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to publicly congratulate
Angela and Germany

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on their fourth World Cup title.

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As we all saw in Rio, Angela is
one of her team's biggest fans.

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Our U.S. team, however, gets better each World Cup,

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so watch out in 2018.

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(laughter)

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Germany is one of our strongest
allies, so whenever we meet

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it's an opportunity to
coordinate closely

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on a whole range of issues

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critical to our shared
security and prosperity.

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As Angela and our German friends
prepare to host the G7

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this spring, it's also
important for us to be able

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to coordinate on a
set of shared goals.

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And at our working
lunch this afternoon,

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we'll focus on what we can do
to keep the economy growing

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and creating jobs.

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As strong supporters

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of the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership,

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we agree that there needs to be meaningful progress this year

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toward an agreement that
boosts our economies

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with strong protections for consumers and workers

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and the environment.

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I look forward to hearing
Angela's assessment of how

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Europe and the IMF can work with
the new Greek government to find

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a way that returns Greece to
sustainable growth

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within the Eurozone, where
growth is critical

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to both the United States and the global economy.

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And we'll be discussing our work
to get all major economies

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to take ambitious action
on climate change,

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including our initiative to
limit public financing

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for coal-fired power plants
overseas and our global efforts

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to phase down some of the most
dangerous greenhouse gases.

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Our discussion this morning

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focused on global
security issues.

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We reaffirmed our commitment to
training Afghan security forces

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and supporting a sovereign,
secure and united Afghanistan.

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We agree that the international
community has to continue

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enforcing existing sanctions as
part of our diplomatic effort

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to prevent Iran from
obtaining a nuclear weapon,

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even as the P5-plus-1 works
closely together

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to do everything we
can to try to achieve

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a good, verifiable deal.

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Two issues in particular that
dominated our workday

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this morning -- Russia's
aggression against Ukraine

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and the international
fight against ISIL.

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With regard to Russia and the
separatists it supports

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in Ukraine, it's clear that
they've violated just about

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every commitment they made
in the Minsk agreement.

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Instead of withdrawing
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Russian forces continue
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training separatists and
helping to coordinate attacks.

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Instead of withdrawing its arms,
Russia has sent in more tanks

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and armored personnel
carriers and heavy artillery.

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With Russian support, the
separatists have seized

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more territory and shelled
civilian areas, destroyed

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villages and driven more Ukrainians from their homes.

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These are the facts.

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But Russian aggression has only
reinforced the unity

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of the United States and
Germany and our allies

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and partners around the world.

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And I want to thank Angela
for her strong leadership

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and partnership as we've
met this challenge.

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Chancellor Merkel and Vice
President Biden met with

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Ukrainian President Poroshenko
in Munich over the weekend,

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and Angela also shared with me

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the results of her
talks in Moscow.

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We continue to encourage
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to this issue.

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And as diplomatic efforts
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we are in absolute agreement
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cannot stand idle -- have us
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the borders of Europe to be
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So today we've agreed to move
forward with our strategy.

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Along with our NATO allies,
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our presence in central
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part of our unwavering
Article 5 obligation

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to our collective defense.

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We will continue to work with the IMF and other partners

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to provide Ukraine with critical financial support as it pursues

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economic and
anti-corruption reforms.

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We discussed the issue of how best to assist Ukraine

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as it defends itself, and we agreed that sanctions on Russia

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need to remain fully in force

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until Russia complies fully
with its obligations.

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Even as we continue to work
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we are making it clear again
today that if Russia continues

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on its current course -- which
is ruining the Russian economy

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and hurting the Russian people,
as well as having

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such a terrible effect on
Ukraine -- Russia's isolation

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will only worsen, both
politically and economically.

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With regard to ISIL, Germany and
the United States remain united

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in our determination to destroy
this barbaric organization.

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I thanked Angela for her strong
support as a member

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of the international coalition
that is working in Iraq.

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In a significant milestone
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Germany has taken the important
step of equipping Kurdish forces

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in Iraq, and Germany
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the training mission of
local forces in Erbil.

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Germany is a close partner
in combating the threat

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of foreign terrorist fighters,
which was the focus

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of a special session of
the U.N. Security Council

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that I chaired last fall.

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And under Angela's leadership,
Germany is moving ahead

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with new legislation
to prevent fighters

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from traveling to and
from Syria and Iraq.

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At the same time, both
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that young people in both our
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in Muslim communities, are being
threatened and targeted

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for recruitment by terrorists
like al Qaeda and ISIL.

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And protecting our young people
from this hateful ideology,

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so that they're not vulnerable
to such recruitment, is,

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first and foremost, a task for
local communities, families,

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neighbors, faith leaders who
know their communities best.

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But we can help these
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the tone and the example that we
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So I want to commend
Angela for her leadership,

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speaking out forcefully against
xenophobia and prejudice

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and on behalf of pluralism
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She's made it clear that all
religious communities have

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a place in Germany, just as they
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And we're grateful that
our German friends

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will be joining us at
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on countering violent extremism, because this is a challenge

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our countries have
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And let me end on
an historic note.

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This year marks the 70th
anniversary of the end

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of the Second World War.

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It marks the 25th anniversary of
the reunification of Germany.

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So in a time when conflicts
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seem intractable, when progress
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Germany's story gives us hope.

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We can end wars.

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Countries can rebuild.

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Adversaries can become allies.

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Walls can come down.

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Divisions can be healed.

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Germany's story -- and the
story of Angela's life --

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remind us that when free
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our interests and our values
will ultimately prevail.

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And as we look to the future, as
I prepare to visit Bavaria

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in June, I'm grateful for my
partnership with Angela,

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as Americans are grateful
for their partnership

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with the people of Germany.

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Chancellor Merkel.

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Chancellor Merkel:
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Thank you, President,
dear Barack.

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I'm delighted to be
back in Washington.

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Nine months ago, we were
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and this visit here has
a lot to do with,

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first and foremost, the
fact that we have assumed

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the presidency of the G7
presidency this year,

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and that we coordinate on
these matters very closely,

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as we do on others.

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And obviously, we'll
address issues related

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to the global economy
when we meet in Bavaria,

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in Schloss Elmau, in the summer.

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From a European vantage point, I think we can say that we have

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made significant progress
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We have countries who are now back on the growth path.

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Ireland comes to mind
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but also Spain and Portugal.

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After a strong phase of structural reforms,

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they have now made
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The new Commissioner that's
come in office has launched

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a growth program in which Germany will participate.

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We will pin our hopes basically
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but also on other
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For example, the
digital economy.

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If I think of the state
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in the United States,
there is a lot of things

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to be done by the
Europeans now.

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I would say that a
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the conclusion of a free
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would also go a long way
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We know that you are very much
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-- there are a lot of free
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And Germany will come out very
forcefully in seeing that

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the negotiations between the EU
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on free trade agreements are
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It's in our own vested
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of the United States but also
in the German interest.

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We are dealing basically in our
G7 agenda with health issues.

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Let me just mention one -- what
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for example, from the
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I think the one thing that
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the international organizations,
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has to be quicker in
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And the G7 can give a very
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to doing this.

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And we're also
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in seeing Gavi be successful.

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We're delighted to
be able to conclude

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the replenishment conference
that has just been completed

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in Germany so successfully.

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Then we dealt with security
issues this morning.

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It is true Germany
this year celebrates

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the 25th anniversary
of its reunification.

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This would not
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not have been achievable without
our transatlantic partners,

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without the support of the
United States of America.

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And we will always
be grateful for this.

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And it is one case in point that
it is well worth the effort

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to stand by one's values
for decades to pursue

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long-term goals and not
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After we thought in the '90s
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out somewhat more easily,
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now we see ourselves
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wealth of conflicts, and
very complex ones.

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We worked together
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we talked about this as well.

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Germany has decided, in
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to give help to deliver
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to deliver also weapons,
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We work together on the
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where we also enter into a
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One particular priority was
given to the conflict between

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Ukraine and Russia this morning.

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We stand up for the same
principles of inviolability

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of territorial integrity.

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For somebody who
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I can only say if we
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of territorial integrity of
countries, then we will not

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be able to maintain the
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that we've been able to achieve.

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This is not just any old
point, it's an essential,

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a crucial point, and we
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And Russia has violated the territorial integrity of Ukraine

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in two respects: in Crimea, and also in Donetsk and Luhansk.

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So we are called upon now
to come up with solutions,

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but not in the sense of a
mediator, but we also stand up

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for the interests of the
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And this is what the French
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trying to do over
the past few days.

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We're going to
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And I'm very grateful that
throughout the Ukraine crisis,

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we have been in very,
very close contact with

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the United States of America
and Europe on sanctions,

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on diplomatic initiatives.

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And this is going
to be continued.

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And I think that's, indeed, one
of the most important messages

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we can send to Russia, and
need to send to Russia.

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We continue to pursue
a diplomatic solution,

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although we have suffered
a lot of setbacks.

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These days we will see
whether all sides are ready

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and willing to come to a
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I've always said I don't
see a military solution

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to this conflict, but we have
to put all our efforts

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in bringing about a
diplomatic solution.

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So there's a whole host of
issues that we need to discuss.

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Over lunch, we will continue to
talk about climate protection,

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about sustainable development

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and the sustainable
development goals.

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So yet again,
thank you very much

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for the very close cooperation,
very close coordination,

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and the possibility to have
an exchange of views

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on all of these crucial issues.

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I think not only in hindsight
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that the United States have
always stood by us,

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have helped us to regain our
unity in peace and freedom,

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but we can also say we continue
to cooperate closely

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if it is about solving the
conflicts of the world today.

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Unfortunately, there
are many of them,

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and we will continue
to do so in the future.

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Thank you for your hospitality.

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The President:
First question, Steve Mufson,

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The Washington Post.

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The Press:
Thank you.

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You've said -- stressed that
U.S. and Europe need to have

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cohesion on the
issue of sanctions

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and on dealing with Ukraine,
and yet the administration

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is discussing sending lethal
weapons to Ukraine,

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which is very different
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has said over the weekend.

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So I was wondering whether this
was a good cop-bad cop act,

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or is this a real reflection
of difference of views

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in the situation on the ground.

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And more broadly, if there's
no agreement this week,

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what lies ahead?

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Are we looking at a
broader set of sanctions?

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What makes us think those set
of sanction will change

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the Russian President's mind any
more than the current ones?

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The President: Well, let me
start with the broader point.

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I think both Angela and I have
emphasized that the prospect

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for a military solution to this
problem has always been low.

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Russia obviously has
an extraordinarily

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powerful military.

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And given the length of the
Russian border with Ukraine,

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given the history between
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expecting that if Russia is
determined that Ukraine

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can fully rebuff a Russian army
has always been unlikely.

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But what we have said is that
the international community,

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working together, can ratchet up
the costs for the violation

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of the core principle
of sovereignty

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and territorial integrity.

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And that's exactly
what we've done.

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And Russia has paid a
significant cost for its actions

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-- first in Crimea and
now in eastern Ukraine.

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It has not yet dissuaded
Mr. Putin from following

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the course that he is on,
but it has created

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a measurable negative impact
on the Russian economy,

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and that will continue.

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My hope is that through
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those costs have become high
enough that Mr. Putin's

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preferred option is for
a diplomatic resolution.

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And I won't prejudge whether
or not they'll be successful.

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If they are successful,
it will be in part

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because of the extraordinary
patience and effort

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of Chancellor Merkel
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If they are not, then we will
continue to raise those costs.

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And we will not relent in that.

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And one of the things I've
very encouraged about

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is the degree to which we've
been able to maintain

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U.S.-European unity
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Now, it is true that if, in fact, diplomacy fails,

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what I've asked my
team to do is to look

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at all options --
what other means can

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we put in place to change
Mr. Putin's calculus --

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and the possibility of
lethal defensive weapons

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is one of those options
that's being examined.

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But I have not made a
decision about that yet.

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I have consulted
with not just Angela,

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but will be consulting with
other allies about this issue.

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It's not based on the idea
that Ukraine could defeat

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a Russian army that
was determined.

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It is rather to see whether or
not there are additional things

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we can do to help Ukraine
bolster its defenses in the face

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of separatist aggression.

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But I want to emphasize that a
decision has not yet been made.

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One of the bigger issues that
we're also concerned with,

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though, is making sure the
Ukrainian economy is functioning

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and that President Poroshenko
and Prime Minister Yatsenyuk

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can continue with the reform
efforts that they've made.

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And I'm glad to see that
because of our cooperation

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and our efforts, we're starting
to see a package come together

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with the IMF, with the European
Union and others that can help

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bolster the European economy so
that they have the space

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to continue to execute
some of the reforms

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and anti-corruption measures
that they've made.

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One of the most important
things we can do for Ukraine

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is help them succeed
economically, because that's how

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people on the ground feels this
change, this transformation,

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inside of Ukraine.

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If that experiment fails,
then the larger project

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of an independent
Ukraine will fail.

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And so we're going to
do everything we can

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to help bolster that.

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But there is no doubt that if,
in fact, diplomacy fails

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this week, there's going to
continue to be a strong,

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unified response between the
United States and Europe.

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That's not going to change.

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There may be some
areas where there are

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tactical disagreements;
there may not be.

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But the broad principle that
we have to stand up for

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not just Ukraine,
but the principle

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of territorial integrity
and sovereignty,

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is one where we are
completely unified.

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Chancellor Merkel:
(as interpreted)

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The French President
and I have decided

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to make one
further attempt

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to make progress through
diplomatic means.

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We have the Minsk agreement
-- the Minsk agreement

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has never been implemented.

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Quite the contrary is true.

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The situation has actually
worsened on the ground.

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So now there is a possibility
to try and bring about

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a cease-fire and to also create
conditions that are in place

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where you have not every
day civilians dying,

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civil victims that
fall prey to this.

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And I'm absolutely confident
that we will do this together.

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I, myself, actually would
not be able to live

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with not having
made this attempt.

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So there is anything but an
assured success in all of this

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-- I have to be very
clear about this.

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But if at a certain
point in time,

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one has to say that success is
not possible even if one puts

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every effort into it, then
the United States and Europe

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have to sit together and try and
explore further possibilities

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of what one can do.

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Just let me point out here
that foreign ministers

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of the European Union last week
already tasked the Commission

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to think about further
possible sanctions.

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On the issue of what is
effective and what not,

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I'm somewhat
surprised sometimes.

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Just let me mention Iran.

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For a fairly long period of
time we have had sanctions

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in place there; people don't
seem to question them.

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And I think they have
been fairly successful,

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if we look at the current state
of affairs with the negotiations

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on the nuclear program.

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So I think, in parallel, I think
it was a very good thing to put

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some costs onto the Russians
through these sanctions

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that we agreed on because
we see also that Russia

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seems to be influenced by this.

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And this is why I am a hundred
percent behind these decisions.

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As to the export of arms, I
have given you my opinion.

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But you may rest assured that
no matter what we decide,

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the alliance between the United
States and Europe will continue

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to stand, will
continue to be solid,

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even though on certain issues
we may not always agree.

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But this partnership, be
it Ukraine and Russia,

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be it on combating terrorism
on the international state,

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be it on other issues, is a
partnership that has stood

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the test of time and that
is -- I mean, in Europe,

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we're very close.

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But this transatlantic
partnership for Germany

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and for Europe is indispensable.

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And this will remain so.

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And I can say this also on
behalf of my colleagues

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in the European Union.

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Sorry, I have to
call you myself.

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From DPA, the
German Press Agency.

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The Press:
President, you said that

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you have not yet
made a decision

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as to whether weapons ought to
be delivered to Ukraine.

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What would be your red line?

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What would be the red line
that needs to be crossed

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for you to decide an armament
of the Ukrainian army?

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And what do you think -- will
this hold by way of a promise?

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Because the Chancellor said
it will make matters worse.

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And what can the
Nobel Laureate Obama

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do more to defuse this conflict?

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And, Madam Chancellor,
President Putin today demanded

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yet again that the government
in Kyiv negotiate directly

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with the separatists.

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When do you think the right
moment has come to do this?

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And with looking at all of the
big issues that you discussed,

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this breach of confidence
due to the NSA affair,

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of the U.S.-German relations,
has that played a role today?

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The President:
Do you want to go first on this?

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Chancellor Merkel:
(as interpreted)

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I can gladly start.

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The question as to how one
assesses the effectiveness

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of certain measures has been
actually dealt with.

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The President has not yet
made a decision, as he said.

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What's important for me is that
we stand very closely together

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on the question of a
renewed diplomatic effort.

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We keep each other informed.

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We're in close touch.

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And nobody wishes more for a
success than the two of us

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who stand here side by side.

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But this would also mean not
only having a cease-fire

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in place, but to also,
over and above that,

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having certain
rules in place.

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And you said the Russian
President himself thinks

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there ought to be
direct contacts.

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Let me just point out to you,
these direct contacts

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already exist through the
trilateral contact group

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with representatives from
Donetsk and Luhansk.

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And the problem over the last
few days, and the problem

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of the last meetings actually
was rather more than that,

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there was not really that
much of an end result --

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if they matter at all,
or if representatives

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from Donetsk and Luhansk
were there at all.

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Sometimes they
didn't even arrive.

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And this was, after
all, for me, the core

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of the Minsk agreement,
that there are

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local elections in accordance
with the Ukrainian

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constitution and that
the outcome of that

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is that you have
representatives, authorities

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that can speak for
those regions.

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And the Ukrainian President
has paved the way for this,

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to giving certain specific
status to the oblasts

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of Luhansk and Donetsk.

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And these elections are an
essential point that will then

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enable us to say, well, maybe
now there can be contacts

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even without a trilateral group.

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And this is actually on the
agenda of the many talks

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that we need to make.

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But I can very well understand
the Ukrainian side,

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that the territory they consider
to be part of their territory

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and that anything
else would violate

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their territorial integrity,
that they want to actually

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see that elections
take place there.

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And that has also been stated by
President Putin that he wishes

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to see those elections
happening there.

487
00:26:27,218 --> 00:26:29,054
Now, on the NSA issue.

488
00:26:29,054 --> 00:26:32,357
I think there are still
different assessments

489
00:26:32,357 --> 00:26:36,461
on individual issues there, but
if we look at the sheer

490
00:26:36,461 --> 00:26:40,198
dimension of the terrorist
threat, we are more than aware

491
00:26:40,198 --> 00:26:42,767
of the fact that we need to work
together very closely.

492
00:26:42,767 --> 00:26:46,171
And I, as German Chancellor,
want to state here very clearly

493
00:26:46,171 --> 00:26:49,107
that the institutions of the
United States of America have

494
00:26:49,107 --> 00:26:52,444
provided us and still continue
to provide us with a lot

495
00:26:52,444 --> 00:26:55,280
of very significant,
very important information

496
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,182
that also ensure our security.

497
00:26:57,182 --> 00:26:59,484
And we don't want
to do without this.

498
00:26:59,484 --> 00:27:02,253
There are other possibilities,
through the cyber dialogue,

499
00:27:02,253 --> 00:27:07,692
for example, to continue to talk
about the sort of protection

500
00:27:07,692 --> 00:27:11,429
of privacy versus
data protection

501
00:27:11,429 --> 00:27:13,098
and so on, and security.

502
00:27:13,098 --> 00:27:15,934
But this was basically --
combating terrorism

503
00:27:15,934 --> 00:27:18,336
was basically in the
forefront today.

504
00:27:19,270 --> 00:27:21,473
The President: On providing
lethal weapons to Ukraine,

505
00:27:21,473 --> 00:27:24,442
it's important to point out
that we have been providing

506
00:27:24,442 --> 00:27:27,445
assistance to the Ukrainian
military generally.

507
00:27:27,445 --> 00:27:30,281
That's been part of a
longstanding relationship

508
00:27:30,281 --> 00:27:32,917
between NATO and Ukraine.

509
00:27:32,917 --> 00:27:38,423
And our goal has not been for
Ukraine to be equipped to carry

510
00:27:38,423 --> 00:27:46,931
on offensive operations, but
to simply defend itself.

511
00:27:46,931 --> 00:27:50,001
And President Poroshenko
has been very clear --

512
00:27:50,001 --> 00:27:53,104
he's not interested in
escalating violence,

513
00:27:53,104 --> 00:27:58,309
he is interested in having
his country's boundaries

514
00:27:58,309 --> 00:28:02,147
respected by its neighbor.

515
00:28:02,147 --> 00:28:04,916
So there's not going to be any
specific point at which I say,

516
00:28:04,916 --> 00:28:10,088
ah, clearly lethal
defensive weapons

517
00:28:10,088 --> 00:28:11,356
would be appropriate here.

518
00:28:11,356 --> 00:28:15,894
It is our ongoing analysis
of what can we do

519
00:28:15,894 --> 00:28:21,199
to dissuade Russia
from encroaching

520
00:28:21,199 --> 00:28:24,369
further and further on
Ukrainian territory.

521
00:28:24,369 --> 00:28:27,105
Our hope is, is that that's
done through diplomatic means.

522
00:28:27,105 --> 00:28:31,609
And I just want to emphasize
here once again for the benefit

523
00:28:31,609 --> 00:28:35,280
not just of the American people
but for the German people,

524
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,783
we are not looking
for Russia to fail.

525
00:28:39,784 --> 00:28:43,455
We are not looking for
Russia to be surrounded

526
00:28:43,455 --> 00:28:46,624
and contained and weakened.

527
00:28:46,624 --> 00:28:53,098
Our preference is for a
strong, prosperous, vibrant,

528
00:28:53,098 --> 00:28:57,569
confident Russia that can
be a partner with us

529
00:28:57,569 --> 00:29:00,504
on a whole host of
global challenges.

530
00:29:00,505 --> 00:29:01,606
And that's how I operated

531
00:29:01,606 --> 00:29:05,543
throughout my first
term in office.

532
00:29:05,543 --> 00:29:10,681
Unfortunately, Russia has made a
decision that I think is bad

533
00:29:10,682 --> 00:29:16,821
for them strategically, bad for
Europe, bad for the world.

534
00:29:16,821 --> 00:29:20,625
And in the face of
this aggression

535
00:29:20,625 --> 00:29:28,766
and these bad decisions,
we can't simply

536
00:29:28,766 --> 00:29:32,704
try to talk them out of it.

537
00:29:32,704 --> 00:29:35,005
We have to show them that
the world is unified

538
00:29:35,006 --> 00:29:39,277
in imposing a cost
for this aggression.

539
00:29:39,277 --> 00:29:42,413
And that's what we're
going to continue to do.

540
00:29:42,413 --> 00:29:43,515
With respect to the NSA,

541
00:29:43,515 --> 00:29:47,652
I'll just make this
point very briefly.

542
00:29:47,652 --> 00:29:52,257
There's no doubt that
the Snowden revelations

543
00:29:52,257 --> 00:29:58,763
damaged impressions of
Germans with respect to

544
00:29:58,763 --> 00:30:02,766
the U.S. government and our
intelligence cooperation.

545
00:30:02,767 --> 00:30:09,841
And what I have done over the
last year, year and a half,

546
00:30:09,841 --> 00:30:14,445
is to systematically work
through some of these issues

547
00:30:14,445 --> 00:30:18,316
to create greater transparency
and to restore confidence

548
00:30:18,316 --> 00:30:22,987
not just for Germans but for our
partners around the world.

549
00:30:22,987 --> 00:30:26,024
And we've taken some
unprecedented measures,

550
00:30:26,024 --> 00:30:30,093
for example, to ensure that
our intelligence agencies

551
00:30:30,094 --> 00:30:40,405
treat non-U.S. citizens in
ways that are consistent

552
00:30:40,405 --> 00:30:43,474
with due process and their
privacy concerns --

553
00:30:43,474 --> 00:30:47,312
something that I put in a
presidential order, and has not

554
00:30:47,312 --> 00:30:52,116
been ever done not only by
our intelligence agencies

555
00:30:52,116 --> 00:30:54,485
but I think by most
intelligence agencies

556
00:30:54,485 --> 00:30:56,321
around the world.

557
00:30:56,321 --> 00:30:58,156
There are going
to still be areas

558
00:30:58,156 --> 00:31:01,826
where we've got to work
through these issues.

559
00:31:01,826 --> 00:31:03,861
We have to internally work
through some of these issues,

560
00:31:03,861 --> 00:31:06,564
because they're complicated,
they're difficult.

561
00:31:06,564 --> 00:31:13,238
If we are trying to track a
network that is planning

562
00:31:13,238 --> 00:31:19,277
to carry out attacks in New
York or Berlin or Paris,

563
00:31:19,277 --> 00:31:24,616
and they are communicating
primarily in cyberspace,

564
00:31:24,616 --> 00:31:31,923
and we have the capacity to
stop an attack like that,

565
00:31:31,923 --> 00:31:35,059
but that requires us then being
able to operate within

566
00:31:35,059 --> 00:31:39,330
that cyberspace, how do we make
sure that we're able to do that,

567
00:31:39,330 --> 00:31:41,899
carry out those functions,
while still meeting

568
00:31:41,899 --> 00:31:44,302
our core principles of
respecting the privacy

569
00:31:44,302 --> 00:31:46,337
of all our people?

570
00:31:46,337 --> 00:31:50,975
And given Germany's history,
I recognize the sensitivities

571
00:31:50,975 --> 00:31:52,476
around this issue.

572
00:31:52,477 --> 00:31:58,049
What I would ask would be that
the German people recognize that

573
00:31:58,049 --> 00:32:02,620
the United States has always
been on the forefront of trying

574
00:32:02,620 --> 00:32:06,056
to promote civil liberties,
that we have traditions

575
00:32:06,057 --> 00:32:10,094
of due process that we respect,
that we have been

576
00:32:10,094 --> 00:32:15,533
a consistent partner of yours in
the course of the last 70 years,

577
00:32:15,533 --> 00:32:20,004
and certainly the last
25 years, in reinforcing

578
00:32:20,004 --> 00:32:22,206
the values that we share.

579
00:32:22,206 --> 00:32:25,109
And so occasionally I would
like the German people to give

580
00:32:25,109 --> 00:32:27,611
us the benefit of the doubt,
given our history,

581
00:32:27,612 --> 00:32:33,384
as opposed to assuming the worst
-- assuming that we have been

582
00:32:33,384 --> 00:32:37,255
consistently your strong
partners and that we share

583
00:32:37,255 --> 00:32:38,656
a common set of values.

584
00:32:38,656 --> 00:32:41,926
And if we have that
fundamental, underlying trust,

585
00:32:41,926 --> 00:32:44,696
there are going to be times
where there are disagreements,

586
00:32:44,696 --> 00:32:49,067
and both sides
may make mistakes,

587
00:32:49,067 --> 00:32:50,735
and there are going to be
irritants like there are

588
00:32:50,735 --> 00:32:54,938
between friends, but the
underlying foundation

589
00:32:54,939 --> 00:32:59,544
for the relationship
remains sound.

590
00:32:59,544 --> 00:33:02,580
Christi Parsons.

591
00:33:03,214 --> 00:33:05,216
The Press:
Thank you, Mr. President.

592
00:33:05,216 --> 00:33:08,953
The Iran nuclear negotiators
have now missed two deadlines.

593
00:33:08,953 --> 00:33:11,322
Should the upcoming March
deadline for talks

594
00:33:11,322 --> 00:33:13,190
be the final one?

595
00:33:13,191 --> 00:33:15,393
And what are the circumstances
in which you think

596
00:33:15,393 --> 00:33:18,629
it would be wise to
extend those talks?

597
00:33:18,629 --> 00:33:22,332
Also, sir, some have suggested
that you are outraged

598
00:33:22,333 --> 00:33:25,670
by the Israeli Prime Minister's
decision to address Congress.

599
00:33:25,670 --> 00:33:27,071
Is that so?

600
00:33:27,071 --> 00:33:29,706
And how would you
advise Democrats

601
00:33:29,707 --> 00:33:32,643
who are considering a boycott?

602
00:33:35,246 --> 00:33:38,015
The President:
First of all, we understood

603
00:33:38,015 --> 00:33:43,855
I think from the start, when we set up the interim agreement

604
00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:49,060
with Iran, that it would take some time to work through

605
00:33:49,060 --> 00:33:54,399
incredibly complex issues
and a huge trust deficit

606
00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:58,034
between the United States and Iran, and the world and Iran,

607
00:33:58,035 --> 00:33:59,804
when it comes to their
nuclear program.

608
00:33:59,804 --> 00:34:06,110
So I think there was
always the assumption that,

609
00:34:06,110 --> 00:34:09,447
although the interim agreement
lasted a certain period of time,

610
00:34:09,447 --> 00:34:15,520
that we would probably need
more time to move forward.

611
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,754
The good news is, is
that there have been

612
00:34:16,754 --> 00:34:17,955
very serious discussions.

613
00:34:17,955 --> 00:34:20,891
That time has been well spent.

614
00:34:20,891 --> 00:34:24,828
During this period of time,
issues have been clarified;

615
00:34:24,829 --> 00:34:27,231
gaps have been narrowed;

616
00:34:27,231 --> 00:34:30,268
the Iranians have abided
by the agreement.

617
00:34:30,268 --> 00:34:35,606
So this is not a circumstance
in which, by talking,

618
00:34:35,606 --> 00:34:37,642
they've been stalling
and meanwhile advancing

619
00:34:37,641 --> 00:34:39,076
their program.

620
00:34:39,076 --> 00:34:39,710
To the contrary.

621
00:34:39,710 --> 00:34:42,847
What we know is the program
has not only been frozen,

622
00:34:42,847 --> 00:34:44,949
but with respect
to, for example,

623
00:34:44,949 --> 00:34:48,453
20 percent enriched uranium,
they've reversed it.

624
00:34:48,453 --> 00:34:50,321
And so we're in a better
position than we were before

625
00:34:50,321 --> 00:34:55,025
the interim program was set up.

626
00:34:55,025 --> 00:34:58,428
Having said all that, the issues
now are sufficiently narrowed

627
00:34:58,429 --> 00:35:02,099
and sufficiently clarified
where we're at point where

628
00:35:02,099 --> 00:35:06,404
they need to make a decision.

629
00:35:06,404 --> 00:35:11,175
We are presenting to them,
in a unified fashion --

630
00:35:11,175 --> 00:35:16,781
the P5-plus-1, supported by
a coalition of countries

631
00:35:16,781 --> 00:35:21,953
around the world, are presenting
to them a deal that allows

632
00:35:21,953 --> 00:35:29,293
them to have peaceful
nuclear power but gives us

633
00:35:29,293 --> 00:35:33,364
the absolute assurance that
is verifiable that

634
00:35:33,364 --> 00:35:37,068
they are not pursuing
a nuclear weapon.

635
00:35:37,068 --> 00:35:42,573
And if, in fact, what they claim
in true -- which is they have

636
00:35:42,573 --> 00:35:46,611
no aspiration to get a nuclear
weapon, that, in fact,

637
00:35:46,611 --> 00:35:47,912
according to their
Supreme Leader,

638
00:35:47,912 --> 00:35:52,283
it would be contrary to their
faith to obtain a nuclear weapon

639
00:35:52,283 --> 00:35:55,853
-- if that is true, there
should be the possibility

640
00:35:55,853 --> 00:35:56,587
of getting a deal.

641
00:35:56,587 --> 00:35:59,557
They should be
able to get to yes.

642
00:35:59,557 --> 00:36:02,158
But we don't know if
that's going to happen.

643
00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:06,297
They have their hardliners;
they have their politics.

644
00:36:06,297 --> 00:36:12,937
And the point, I guess is,
Christi, at this juncture,

645
00:36:12,937 --> 00:36:17,975
I don't see a further extension
being useful if they have

646
00:36:17,975 --> 00:36:22,980
not agreed to the basic
formulation and the bottom line

647
00:36:22,980 --> 00:36:25,683
that the world requires
to have confidence that

648
00:36:25,683 --> 00:36:28,619
they're not pursuing
a nuclear weapon.

649
00:36:28,619 --> 00:36:31,989
Now, if a framework
for a deal is done,

650
00:36:31,989 --> 00:36:36,160
if people have a clear sense
of what is required

651
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:42,332
and there's some drafting and
t's to cross and i's to dot,

652
00:36:42,333 --> 00:36:44,302
that's a different issue.

653
00:36:44,302 --> 00:36:46,304
But my view -- and
I've presented this

654
00:36:46,304 --> 00:36:52,176
to members of Congress --
is that we now know enough

655
00:36:52,176 --> 00:36:54,511
that the issues are
no longer technical.

656
00:36:54,512 --> 00:36:58,916
The issues now are, does Iran
have the political will

657
00:36:58,916 --> 00:37:02,620
and the desire to
get a deal done?

658
00:37:02,620 --> 00:37:04,721
And we could not be doing
this were it not for

659
00:37:04,722 --> 00:37:11,028
the incredible cohesion and
unity that's been shown

660
00:37:11,028 --> 00:37:16,533
by Germany, by the other members
of the P5-plus-1 --

661
00:37:16,534 --> 00:37:19,470
which, I should acknowledge,
includes Russia.

662
00:37:19,470 --> 00:37:21,872
I mean, this is an area where
they've actually served

663
00:37:21,872 --> 00:37:22,873
a constructive role.

664
00:37:22,873 --> 00:37:25,376
And China has served
a constructive role.

665
00:37:25,376 --> 00:37:31,349
And there has been
no cracks in this

666
00:37:33,618 --> 00:37:35,620
on the P5-plus-1 side
of the table.

667
00:37:35,620 --> 00:37:41,926
And I think that's a testament
to the degree to which we are

668
00:37:41,926 --> 00:37:45,462
acting reasonably in trying
to actually solve a problem.

669
00:37:45,463 --> 00:37:50,968
With respect to Prime Minister
Netanyahu, as I've said before,

670
00:37:50,968 --> 00:37:56,973
I talk to him all the time, our
teams constantly coordinate.

671
00:37:56,974 --> 00:38:01,879
We have a practice of
not meeting with leaders

672
00:38:01,879 --> 00:38:03,881
right before their elections,

673
00:38:03,881 --> 00:38:06,484
two weeks before
their elections.

674
00:38:06,484 --> 00:38:09,854
As much as I love Angela,
if she was two weeks away

675
00:38:09,854 --> 00:38:12,288
from an election she probably would not have received

676
00:38:12,289 --> 00:38:14,725
an invitation to
the White House --

677
00:38:14,725 --> 00:38:16,794
(laughter)

678
00:38:16,794 --> 00:38:22,799
-- and I suspect she wouldn't have asked for one.

679
00:38:26,137 --> 00:38:27,171
(laughter)

680
00:38:27,171 --> 00:38:32,276
So this is just -- some of
this just has to do with

681
00:38:32,276 --> 00:38:34,979
how we do business.

682
00:38:37,014 --> 00:38:44,555
And I think it's important for
us to maintain these protocols

683
00:38:44,555 --> 00:38:51,127
-- because the U.S.-Israeli
relationship is not about

684
00:38:51,128 --> 00:38:52,129
a particular party.

685
00:38:52,129 --> 00:38:59,236
This isn't a relationship
founded on affinity between

686
00:38:59,236 --> 00:39:01,238
the Labor Party and the
Democratic Party,

687
00:39:01,238 --> 00:39:03,573
or Likud and the
Republican Party.

688
00:39:03,574 --> 00:39:07,645
This is the U.S.-Israeli
relationship that extends

689
00:39:07,645 --> 00:39:12,750
beyond parties, and has to do
with that unbreakable bond that

690
00:39:12,750 --> 00:39:17,188
we feel and our commitment
to Israel's security,

691
00:39:17,188 --> 00:39:19,690
and the shared
values that we have.

692
00:39:19,690 --> 00:39:23,260
And the way to preserve that is
to make sure that it doesn't

693
00:39:23,260 --> 00:39:29,233
get clouded with what could be
perceived as partisan politics.

694
00:39:33,404 --> 00:39:36,507
Whether that's accurate or not,
that is a potential perception,

695
00:39:36,507 --> 00:39:39,143
and that's something that
we have to guard against.

696
00:39:39,143 --> 00:39:41,846
Now, I don't want to be coy.

697
00:39:41,846 --> 00:39:45,716
The Prime Minister and I have
a very real difference

698
00:39:45,716 --> 00:39:49,386
around Iran, Iran sanctions.

699
00:39:49,386 --> 00:39:53,157
I have been very clear --
and Angela agrees with me,

700
00:39:53,157 --> 00:39:55,159
and David Cameron
agrees with me,

701
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:58,295
and the others who are a member
of the negotiations agree --

702
00:39:58,295 --> 00:40:04,201
that it does not make sense to
sour the negotiations a month

703
00:40:04,201 --> 00:40:06,604
or two before they're
about to be completed.

704
00:40:06,604 --> 00:40:09,439
And we should play that out.

705
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,977
If, in fact, we can get a deal,
then we should embrace that.

706
00:40:12,977 --> 00:40:16,212
If we can't get a deal,
then we'll have to make

707
00:40:16,213 --> 00:40:20,117
a set of decisions, and, as
I've said to Congress,

708
00:40:20,117 --> 00:40:23,120
I'll be the first one to
work with them to apply

709
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,656
even stronger measures
against Iran.

710
00:40:25,656 --> 00:40:31,796
But what's the rush --
unless your view is that

711
00:40:31,796 --> 00:40:34,330
it's not possible to
get a deal with Iran

712
00:40:34,331 --> 00:40:36,834
and it shouldn't even be tested?

713
00:40:36,834 --> 00:40:40,437
And that I cannot agree with because, as the President

714
00:40:40,437 --> 00:40:43,607
of the United States, I'm looking at what the options are

715
00:40:43,607 --> 00:40:45,609
if we don't get a
diplomatic resolution.

716
00:40:45,609 --> 00:40:48,011
And those options are narrow
and they're not attractive.

717
00:40:48,012 --> 00:40:50,314
And from the perspective
of U.S. interests -- and

718
00:40:50,314 --> 00:40:52,716
I believe from the perspective
of Israel's interests,

719
00:40:52,716 --> 00:40:56,020
although I can't
speak for, obviously,

720
00:40:56,020 --> 00:40:58,556
the Israeli government --
it is far better if we can get

721
00:40:58,556 --> 00:41:00,024
a diplomatic solution.

722
00:41:00,024 --> 00:41:03,627
So there are real
differences substantively,

723
00:41:03,627 --> 00:41:06,831
but that's separate and apart
from the whole issue

724
00:41:06,831 --> 00:41:13,337
of Mr. Netanyahu
coming to Washington.

725
00:41:13,337 --> 00:41:16,340
All right?

726
00:41:16,340 --> 00:41:22,546
The Press:
Ms. Merkel, you just said the question is

727
00:41:22,546 --> 00:41:26,149
what will be effective in
the Ukrainian crisis.

728
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:28,786
And diplomacy, as you said
yourself, has not really

729
00:41:28,786 --> 00:41:30,821
made all that -- has not
really brought about

730
00:41:30,821 --> 00:41:31,889
that much of a progress.

731
00:41:31,889 --> 00:41:34,358
Can you understand the
impatience of the Americans

732
00:41:34,358 --> 00:41:39,096
when they say we ought to
now deliver weapons?

733
00:41:39,096 --> 00:41:41,866
And what makes you feel
confident that diplomacy

734
00:41:41,866 --> 00:41:45,603
will carry the day in the
next few days and weeks?

735
00:41:45,603 --> 00:41:48,839
And on Greece, obviously
I also have to ask you,

736
00:41:48,839 --> 00:41:51,508
what is your comment on the
most recent comments

737
00:41:51,508 --> 00:41:55,546
of the Greek Prime Minister who
says let's end those programs,

738
00:41:55,546 --> 00:41:58,115
and I'm going to stand
by the promises I made

739
00:41:58,115 --> 00:41:59,250
during the election campaign?

740
00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:01,585
How do you envisage the
further cooperation

741
00:42:01,585 --> 00:42:03,153
with the Greek government?

742
00:42:03,153 --> 00:42:06,089
And to you, Mr. President,
I address the question,

743
00:42:06,090 --> 00:42:10,294
there is quite a lot of pressure
by members of your government

744
00:42:10,294 --> 00:42:14,932
who say weapons should be
delivered to the Ukrainians.

745
00:42:14,932 --> 00:42:17,935
Now, you yourself have
said you want to ratchet

746
00:42:17,935 --> 00:42:22,740
up the cost that Putin
has to bear and then make

747
00:42:22,740 --> 00:42:25,408
him relent and give in maybe.

748
00:42:25,409 --> 00:42:27,711
And you said all options
have to be on the table,

749
00:42:27,711 --> 00:42:29,013
so apparently also weapons.

750
00:42:29,013 --> 00:42:33,750
So what makes you so sure that
these weapons will not only

751
00:42:33,751 --> 00:42:36,687
go into the hands of the
regular Ukraine army,

752
00:42:36,687 --> 00:42:41,191
but will then also perhaps get
into the hands of separatists

753
00:42:41,191 --> 00:42:44,560
or militias on the Ukrainian
side, who are accused

754
00:42:44,561 --> 00:42:46,330
by Amnesty International
and other NGOs

755
00:42:46,330 --> 00:42:48,265
of having violated human rights?

756
00:42:48,265 --> 00:42:50,868
Thank you.

757
00:42:51,702 --> 00:42:52,970
Chancellor Merkel:
(as interpreted)

758
00:42:52,970 --> 00:42:54,071
Whenever you have
political conflict,

759
00:42:54,071 --> 00:42:57,708
such as the one that we have
now between Russia and Ukraine,

760
00:42:57,708 --> 00:43:02,446
but also in many other
conflicts around the world,

761
00:43:02,446 --> 00:43:07,618
it has always proved to be
right to try again and again

762
00:43:07,618 --> 00:43:08,953
to solve such a conflict.

763
00:43:08,953 --> 00:43:12,957
We've spoken at some length
about the Iranian conflict.

764
00:43:12,957 --> 00:43:16,727
Here, too, we are expected
to try time and again.

765
00:43:16,727 --> 00:43:18,595
And there's always a
point where you say, well,

766
00:43:18,595 --> 00:43:20,596
all of the options
are on the table,

767
00:43:20,597 --> 00:43:24,401
we've gone back and forth, but
then one has to think again.

768
00:43:24,401 --> 00:43:28,205
Looking just at the Middle
East conflict, for example,

769
00:43:28,205 --> 00:43:31,075
how many people have tried
to bring about a solution

770
00:43:31,075 --> 00:43:31,674
to this conflict?

771
00:43:31,675 --> 00:43:35,179
And I've welcomed it every time,
and I'm going to participate

772
00:43:35,179 --> 00:43:37,448
and support it every time
because I think every time

773
00:43:37,448 --> 00:43:38,781
it has been well
worth the effort.

774
00:43:38,782 --> 00:43:41,552
Now, when you have a situation
now where every night you see

775
00:43:41,552 --> 00:43:43,921
people dying, you see
civilian casualties,

776
00:43:43,921 --> 00:43:48,692
you see the dire conditions
under which people live,

777
00:43:48,692 --> 00:43:51,295
it is incumbent upon
us as politicians,

778
00:43:51,295 --> 00:43:54,732
we owe it to the people
to explore every avenue

779
00:43:54,732 --> 00:43:56,867
until somebody gives in.

780
00:43:56,867 --> 00:43:59,503
But we've grown up
under conditions --

781
00:43:59,503 --> 00:44:02,039
I have to point to this again --

782
00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:05,442
where we said nobody would have
dreamt of German unity.

783
00:44:05,442 --> 00:44:09,313
The people who have said in West
Germany, remember they said,

784
00:44:09,313 --> 00:44:12,883
well, should we keep citizenship
of Germany for the GDR?

785
00:44:12,883 --> 00:44:14,917
They've been
criticized by people

786
00:44:14,918 --> 00:44:19,323
as some who have
revisionist ideas.

787
00:44:19,323 --> 00:44:22,393
And then think of President
Reagan when he said,

788
00:44:22,393 --> 00:44:24,528
"Mr. Gorbachev,
tear down this wall,"

789
00:44:24,528 --> 00:44:26,629
standing in front of
the Brandenburg Gate.

790
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:29,333
Many people said at the time,
how can he possibly say that?

791
00:44:29,333 --> 00:44:30,367
But it was right.

792
00:44:30,367 --> 00:44:31,769
We have no guarantee.

793
00:44:31,769 --> 00:44:33,870
I cannot give you a
guarantee for the outcome

794
00:44:33,871 --> 00:44:35,939
of the Wednesday talks
or for other talks.

795
00:44:35,939 --> 00:44:37,941
And maybe nothing
will come out of it.

796
00:44:37,941 --> 00:44:40,144
But then we're called upon
again to think about

797
00:44:40,144 --> 00:44:41,745
a new possibility.

798
00:44:41,745 --> 00:44:45,281
And since we thought about
every step of the way,

799
00:44:45,282 --> 00:44:48,786
will this be effective or not,
we will continue to do so.

800
00:44:48,786 --> 00:44:51,922
A lot of things have
to be thought about,

801
00:44:51,922 --> 00:44:54,458
and I'm very glad that with
the American President,

802
00:44:54,458 --> 00:44:57,261
I have always been able to put
all of the cards on the table

803
00:44:57,261 --> 00:44:59,663
and discuss the pros and cons.

804
00:44:59,663 --> 00:45:03,133
In my speech in Munich, I gave
you clearly where I stand.

805
00:45:03,133 --> 00:45:06,336
But we'll continue to try it.

806
00:45:06,937 --> 00:45:08,672
I think that's why
we are politicians,

807
00:45:08,672 --> 00:45:10,307
that's why we chose
this profession.

808
00:45:10,307 --> 00:45:13,243
Others have to do other things
-- researchers have to,

809
00:45:13,243 --> 00:45:16,346
all of the time, find
new things to explore

810
00:45:16,346 --> 00:45:20,984
and we have to see
that the well-being,

811
00:45:20,984 --> 00:45:22,953
the prosperity of our
people is ensured.

812
00:45:22,953 --> 00:45:26,757
But we never have a guarantee
that the policies we adopt

813
00:45:26,757 --> 00:45:29,293
will work, will have the effect
-- oh, sorry, Greece.

814
00:45:29,293 --> 00:45:29,960
I almost forgot.

815
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,729
Yes.

816
00:45:34,832 --> 00:45:38,769
On Wednesday, there's going
to be a Eurogroup meeting.

817
00:45:40,170 --> 00:45:44,908
And I think what counts is what
Greece will put on the table

818
00:45:44,908 --> 00:45:48,145
at that Eurogroup meeting or
perhaps a few days later.

819
00:45:51,615 --> 00:45:56,019
The German policy, ever since
2010, has been aimed at

820
00:45:56,019 --> 00:45:58,354
Greece staying
a member of the Eurozone.

821
00:45:58,355 --> 00:46:00,424
I've said this time and again.

822
00:46:00,424 --> 00:46:03,460
The basic rules have
always been the same.

823
00:46:03,460 --> 00:46:06,363
You put in your own efforts,
and on the other side,

824
00:46:06,363 --> 00:46:09,232
you're being shown
solidarity as a quid pro quo.

825
00:46:09,233 --> 00:46:12,636
The three institutions
of the Troika -- the ECB,

826
00:46:12,636 --> 00:46:15,806
the European Union
Commission, and the IMF --

827
00:46:15,806 --> 00:46:19,376
have agreed on programs.

828
00:46:19,376 --> 00:46:23,480
These programs are the basis
of any discussion we have.

829
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,683
I've always said I will wait
for Greece to come

830
00:46:26,683 --> 00:46:30,754
with a sustainable proposal and
then we'll talk about this.

831
00:46:32,122 --> 00:46:33,290
The President: The point
Angela made I think

832
00:46:33,290 --> 00:46:38,128
is right, which is we
never have guarantees

833
00:46:38,128 --> 00:46:41,565
that any particular
course of action works.

834
00:46:41,565 --> 00:46:47,971
As I've said before, by the time
a decision reaches my desk,

835
00:46:47,971 --> 00:46:52,075
by definition, it's a hard
problem with no easy answers.

836
00:46:52,075 --> 00:46:54,745
Otherwise somebody else
would have solved it

837
00:46:54,745 --> 00:46:58,649
and I would never
even hear about it.

838
00:46:58,649 --> 00:47:06,490
The issue that you raised about
can we be certain that

839
00:47:06,490 --> 00:47:12,162
any lethal aid that we provide
Ukraine is used properly,

840
00:47:12,162 --> 00:47:14,665
doesn't fall into
the wrong hands,

841
00:47:14,665 --> 00:47:24,141
does not lead to overaggressive
actions that can't be sustained

842
00:47:24,141 --> 00:47:28,445
by the Ukrainians, what kinds
of reactions does it prompt

843
00:47:28,445 --> 00:47:30,714
not simply from the separatists
but from the Russians --

844
00:47:30,714 --> 00:47:34,817
those are all issues that
have to be considered.

845
00:47:34,818 --> 00:47:37,387
The measure by which I
make these decisions is,

846
00:47:37,387 --> 00:47:42,526
is it more likely to
be effective than not?

847
00:47:42,526 --> 00:47:51,667
And that is what our
deliberations will be about.

848
00:47:51,668 --> 00:47:57,174
But what I do know is this --
that the United States

849
00:47:57,174 --> 00:48:01,078
and Europe have
not stood idly by.

850
00:48:01,078 --> 00:48:05,682
We have made enormous efforts,
enormous investments

851
00:48:05,682 --> 00:48:13,890
of dollars, of political
capital, of diplomacy,

852
00:48:13,890 --> 00:48:16,292
in trying to resolve
this situation.

853
00:48:16,293 --> 00:48:18,495
I think the Ukrainian
people can feel confident

854
00:48:18,495 --> 00:48:21,330
that we have stood by them.

855
00:48:21,331 --> 00:48:25,969
People like Vice President Biden
and Secretary of State Kerry

856
00:48:25,969 --> 00:48:31,341
have spent countless
hours on this issue,

857
00:48:31,341 --> 00:48:36,980
as has Angela and her
team on the German side.

858
00:48:36,980 --> 00:48:44,388
And just because we have not yet
gotten the outcome that we want

859
00:48:44,388 --> 00:48:48,091
doesn't mean that this
pressure is not, over time,

860
00:48:48,091 --> 00:48:50,827
making a difference.

861
00:48:50,827 --> 00:48:54,331
I think it's fair to say that
there are those inside of Russia

862
00:48:54,331 --> 00:49:00,170
who recognize this has
been a disastrous course

863
00:49:00,170 --> 00:49:02,139
for the Russian economy.

864
00:49:02,139 --> 00:49:05,242
I think Mr. Putin is
factoring that in.

865
00:49:05,242 --> 00:49:09,379
But, understandably, until the
situation is entirely resolved,

866
00:49:09,379 --> 00:49:11,448
we're going to have to keep
on trying different things

867
00:49:11,448 --> 00:49:16,653
to see if we can get
a better outcome.

868
00:49:16,653 --> 00:49:19,923
What I do know is, is that we
will not be able to succeed

869
00:49:19,923 --> 00:49:24,294
unless we maintain the strong
transatlantic solidarity

870
00:49:24,294 --> 00:49:28,432
that's been the hallmark of
our national security

871
00:49:28,432 --> 00:49:31,401
throughout the last 70 years.

872
00:49:31,401 --> 00:49:36,239
And I'm confident that I've got
a great partner in Angela

873
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,542
in maintaining that.

874
00:49:38,542 --> 00:49:39,609
Thank you very much, everybody.