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Hi everybody, this is your host Subhashish.

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I'm a Wikipedia editor and a long

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time open source slash knowledge slash

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culture advocate. In the October 15th of

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2013, in Bohol, a Filipino province in

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Central Visayas was hit by a really

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powerful earthquake that affected over

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3.2 million people. A glance of the

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Wikipedia article "2013 Bohol earthquake"

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can shock how powerful this disaster was

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for the country. Apart from seventy one

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thousand and nine hundred residential

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houses that were affected by this

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earthquake several old and historical

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monuments, and particularly many colonia

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churches like the Loboc Church

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Loon church, Maribojoc Church church, and

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Baclayon Church were severely affected.

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Such a disaster reminded everyone that

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many historical sites can just vanish

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at any point of time. And it is important

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to document the details about them.

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Today in the second episode of this

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podcast series we have a very special guest.

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His name is Joel Aldor John who is an IT

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expert architect by profession, but he's

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also been working for a really long time

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to build a collaborative project called

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the "Philippine Heritage Map" to map and

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document the historical places and

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structures of the Philippines. Joel and I

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first met in London during Wikimania 2014,

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and I'm really excited to speak to

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him today about his work.

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Welcome to the show Joel. Can you share a little bit

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about yourself and your work at the

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Philippine Heritage Hap. 

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Hi, yeah, thanks for having me tonight in in your podcast

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I'm pretty excited to talk to

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you again after almost three years we

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actually personally talked over the

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Wikimania. Look at my three years

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can do to our lives. Well since then

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we've been very busy with our work, and

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yes we had been doing a great deal of

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mapping on our own mapping platform.

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We've been working in this platform for

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more than two years now.

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So right after we came in. [Yeah]

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We started

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building the platform -- this is by the way

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entirely separate from the Wikimedia

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projects just so you know okay -- so this

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is this is a an initiative to build a

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the most comprehensive and authoritative

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database on historical resources in the

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Philippines using an open source GIS

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platform called the Phillipine Heritage Map

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So in we've been the doing

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cultural mapping for some years now with

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my colleagues going around the

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Philippines and identifying documenting

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and writing about identified the

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cultural and historical resources

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whether these are monuments or these are

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movable objects or any any identifiable

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tangible and intangible heritage

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resources which actually it was a it was

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a product of a series of events that

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happened in 2013. As you may know the

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Philippines was hit by one of the

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strongest cyclones in the modern history as

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well as a major earthquake that hit

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the central region of the

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Philippines.

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So we've lost a lot of the cultural

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artifacts in those areas and it really

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gave us a hard look as to how were

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actually preserving these uh our

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cultural heritage

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when went during that time there was a

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you know catching up on on documenting

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the things that have been damaged or

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have been affected by those natural

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events and

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the biggest realization was to that

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there is simply not enough there are any

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there there's just not much data

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available for us to use for analysis and

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assessing the the damage. So, we, some of

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us, a number of volunteers started to

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map them and in 2015, early 2015. 

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We started working with the Getty

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Conservation Institute and World

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Monuments Fund in the US to deploy a an

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online platform running on an

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open-source platform called Arches.

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Arches is an open source GIS

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platform that is purposely built for

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cultural heritage management. So it took

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as a number of months to understand and

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study the platform and when we were

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finally able to migrate all of

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our mapped resources, and have it made

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available on the online platform.

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We launched the Philippine Heritage Map.

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So that was a August 2015, we launched and

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built heritage map around the same time

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as well we organized ourselves as to

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become a nonprofit organization Grupo

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Kalinangan Inc. Our mission as a

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nonprofit organization here in the

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Philippines is to develop and deploy IT

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services, IT tools, services and support

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systems to help preserve our history and

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our cultural heritage. That's simply, that's uh,

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that's our mission

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Simply put, so our goal is to, our vision

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is to see a much, see a better

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Philippines managing its resources its

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heritage resources more effectively into

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the next decade or so, and you can do

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that too too.

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some development and and advocating for

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these tools and services that we are

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offering are our main platform forces.

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At the Philippine Heritage Map, we provide

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the platform for free, and we provide

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training and capacity building for

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grassroots communities for local

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government units in and around towns and

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cities as well as certain institutions.

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We partner with certain institutions to

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provide them with with the knowledge and

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capacity to identify document, organize

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and manage their heritage resources, and

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we also do data analytics and data

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exchange. We have we are an official

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partner of the the Department of Science

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and Technologies project called

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Project NOAH which has now been transferred over

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to the University of the Philippines

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under the name NOAH Center. We are

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exchanging data with them. We provide all

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geospatial information of all identified

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historic resources around the

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Philippines and provide them in the NOAH

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centers platform to help assess to

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provide early warning systems or to

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enable early warning systems for

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landslides, flooding and storm surges

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that may actually negatively affect

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historic resources. So if you go to the

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(NOAH web), NOAH Center's website, that's

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still known as project NOAH. But by

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next month, because they're now under the

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University of the Philippines, they'll

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not be renamed to they'll be renamed as

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NOAH Center. NOAH is an acronym for

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National Operational Assessment of

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hazards so it's a it's a government. It's

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a governmental effort to decentralize

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risk

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and assessment, and resource planning for

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all for for towns and cities that may

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be affected by natural hazards like

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budding landslides storm surges. And

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we're also adding earthquakes through

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the fill of data of Philippine Institute

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of Volcanology and Seismology, and other

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hazards that that we might be able to

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hazard information like hazard maps that

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we may be able to provide which is still

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being developed elsewhere but we are

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enabling that kind of, we're enabling

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that kind of a visibility and and

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capacity, better capacity to make faster

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and more informed decisions and better

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resource planning on mitigating risks

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and reducing, even reducing those risks

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to our cultural heritage. So, and you know

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our government is doing a lot of efforts

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to to manage and and rehabilitate

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recover and restore our heritage

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structures after the fact, like after the

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disaster, after, after a certain

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occurrence that happened but to actually,

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umm, be more effective at protecting them

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we must be able to plan early on even

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before the fact so that's what we are

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working on to actually, to actually

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enable those systems so our our goal as

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an organization,

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as a nonprofit organization is to

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develop more IT tools in in in the

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coming months as early as now we are

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already, we have already laid the roadmap

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for for our technological roadmap for

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for the the IT tools services and

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infrastructure that we're going to

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develop over the next three to five

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years where we plan to further expand

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the scope of the GIS platform of the

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Philippine Heritage Map which will also

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include heritage in recording and

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logging of heritage incidents so if

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there is like a certain incident that

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occurred at a, at a far far long away

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place. We have certain tools that would

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help ordinary citizens to report those

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incidents as simple as a facebook chat bot,

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or an app, or even an SMS or a phone call

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that would route all these reports to a

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centralized incident management system

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for for managing those reported

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incidents on heritage structures, and we

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validate those data, and the course, we

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course those information to the proper

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agencies that would that are mandated to

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respond to those incidents. We want to

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reduce the feedback time for these

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agencies to actually act upon those

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incidents so that's one of those plans

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that we're doing, and at the same time

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our volunteers that we're training are

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really is really focusing on building

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the database that we have right now. So

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all of the information that our trained

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volunteers are are contributing to the

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Philippine Heritage Map are placed on

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the Creative Commons unless otherwise

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stated, stated otherwise. Because some of

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the information that we get as well are

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under a different copyright, and the

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platform has the capability to to handle

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those kind of of copyrighted material

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but we really do advocate for for

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placing all of those

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data under an open license that would

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allow us to share this information to

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critical applications to and to ascertain

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agencies that are, that would readily,

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that would need those information

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readily, whenever, you know something

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happens, we want that information to be

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readily available. I suppose we don't

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want that, you know that situation to

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happen again. Back in 2013, when it took

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us a long time for for certain

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government agencies which I got involved

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in back then,

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by the way to actually make a good

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assessment of how much the, how much of

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our cultural heritage has been affected,

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it took them months to fully understand

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the extent of the damage if we only have

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that information right away, and put it

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in a, you know in a technological

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platform that will ,that will readily

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analyze and even visualize the analysis

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of that data and map it against those

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hazards we may, we will be, we will be

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better quick and better informed at

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making faster decisions on a heritage,

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and therefore the government in a lot

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better funding to to to respond to those,

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to those situations so that's pretty

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much that what we do. [umm] I've been a, you

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know, I've been an advocate of free and

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open culture since I since back in

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college

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and occasionally I also contribute to

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the Wikimedia projects, particularly

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wikimedia Commons. I had a government

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project back in 2014.

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around the time with we met at Wikimania

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in London, where I digitally documented

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the largest heritage artworks in the

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Philippines, the ceiling paintings of the,

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some of the colonial catholic churches

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in the central Philippines.

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And they're all uploaded on the Creative

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Commons so that they're all in Wikimedia

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Commons so you can, you know, take a look

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at them and that's that's what we're

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doing. That's what keeps us busy these

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days. That's a lot work my friend, right?

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(Umm) (yeah, yeah). It's rather amazing that we

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can still find that in the dark actually

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(Yeah, Yeah, right) and I'm particularly

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interested about also knowing a little

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bit about the outcomes of the Philippine

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Heritage Project, and you know, you

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shared a little bit about how you're

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collaborating with the government how

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you're building the grassroot

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communities. So tell me a little bit more

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about that, all right?

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I'm sure the reach of the Philippine

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Heritage Map has almost 10,000

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identified and mapped historic resources

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in the platform. Definitely it's not as

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far from being complete. (uh) We do have a

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goal - to reach a hundred thousand

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identified and mapped historic resources

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over the next three to four years, maybe

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by the end of 2020. That's what we're

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targeting on, but since 2015, since we've

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launched the Philippine Heritage Map

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we've worked with a number of volunteers

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and we trained them so far. We've

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completed

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mapping of about forty old towns and

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cities and historic districts around the

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Philippines. We prioritize, we prioritize

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remote places because these are the ones

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that are historically significant but

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receives lesser attention by the

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government so we want to, we want to

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first, we want to prioritize mapping

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those lesser-known towns and cities that

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are the worst stablished during the

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Spanish period much of our churches

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were established by the Spanish

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missionaries during the fifteenth, during the

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sixteenth century so we want to map them,

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and we became a recognized local

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affiliate of the National Historical

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Commission of the Philippines, the oldest

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and the most respected government agency

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concerned with the coastal heritage and

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history of the Philippines. So, (yeah) that

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makes us a legitimate nonprofit

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organization recognized by the

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government, and on a much local scale we

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hold scheduled trainings. In fact by next

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month we'll be holding our batch 7

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training of volunteers where we will be

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training them technically. We'll be

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providing technical training on how to

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actually map or you see the platform to

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map heritage resources in their towns

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and cities. So it will be a two-day

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workshop training and workshop for for

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selected volunteers, and we've also

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partnered with a number of organizations

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like the Philippine Institute of

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Architects and the technological

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institute of the Philippines students

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from the Theological Institute of

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Technological University of the

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Philippines and later on the Far Eastern

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University, one of the largest

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universities in Manila, and, (yeah) and

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where there are a good number of

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partnerships down the pipeline where

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we're sort of, still, you know, we're

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tormented over with the board and

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assessing the partnerships. There's

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really so many opportunities coming in

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and to be honest, we're quite

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overwhelmed with with those

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opportunities because we are pretty much,

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you know, a lean organization at the

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moment. We are actually a working board

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but we are very fortunate to work with

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passionate volunteers that are helping

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us whenever we we are holding certain

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activities, and whenever we're giving

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them certain assignments on mapping so

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yeah that's how we engage primarily from

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the governmental level down to the

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individuals and to certain institutions

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Even with the LG use, we have a good

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number of partnerships with certain

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government units like the city of the

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Tagbilaran in Bohol, the historic district of

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Santa Ana in in Manila, and the interim

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Buddhist administration provided us with

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their complete, their complete registry

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of all identified historical structures

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in the world city of Intramuros in old

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Manila.

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So we've already included that on the

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map, so, (yeah) so simply put, we are very

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happy to have partners with so many

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government agencies, institutions down to

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the individuals, and we're working

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towards partnering with so much more.

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(yeah) That's great, and that's a lot of

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collaborations with many organizations,

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and that's something that I was

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really interested to learn about because,

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you know, partnering with the government

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kind of helps a lot to maximize your

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effort, because without their support

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it's so difficult to even enter, enter

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inside different, you know, cultural

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organizations which is really a, you know,

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big obstacle for many many people who

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are working in this sphere. And you also

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shared how you're educating people, how

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you're providing training to grassroot

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communities, right? How many people you

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have, you know, provided training so far,

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and also tell me a little bit about

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your team structure. How many people are

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working along with you in this project,

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or you're the only one who is working on

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this, and, and how you're providing

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training to the grassroot communities,

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and, and, and how you're tracking that?

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How you're make making sure that they're not

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just learning but also, you know,

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reflecting their learning on the

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platform by contributing? So, yeah. 

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Well, like I said earlier we are pretty much a

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lean organization. We are a working board.

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We are just a newly registered nonprofit

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organization with all the legal and

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all the government papers, and we are

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being taxed for all of our, you know

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everything.

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We are simply, we're legit but we are

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still scaling up our our operations and

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activities right now. We are five in the

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board and we work with a number of

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active volunteers who help us in in

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several ways, and all of us in the board

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have a number of responsibilities. I'm

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pretty much uh concerned primarily with

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strategic planning, and of course finding

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all the right opportunities for us as

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being, me as the president, current

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president of the organization, I direct

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the technological growth map of our, of

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our IT tools and services and we need to

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really be innovative in, in our, in our

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offerings in our product and service

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offerings and some of us in the

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organization are involved with community

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engagement with, with data curation, as

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I've mentioned earlier we want to, we are

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aiming for to become our, we're aiming to

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come up with the most authoritative

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database of all,

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to find historical structure. So we, we

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ensure that all of the data that we

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enter into the Philippine Heritage Map

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have been validated properly and

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verified by our curators, and, of course

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we do have people, we do have certain

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people overseeing our financials, and are,

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you know all the paperwork that

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assistance that's involved with, you know

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running our administrative activities,

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operations and events and projects.

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And we do training to certain groups. The

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rule of thumb that we usually follow as

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an organization is we only work with

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local organizations that are actually

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ready to to commit to providing their,

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their own resources to devote to mapping

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projects. So what we do as an

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organization of course we, we, we, of

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course, our interface with them. The good

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thing with our, but the good thing with

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our organization is that, although we are

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quite lean we have a very wide

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experience in the government sector as

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well as the cultural heritage field, so,

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we are pretty much a seasoned, the bunch

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here so we have a, you know, we have the

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domain knowledge and skills to deal with,

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with, with local government. We understand

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the challenges and the hurdles of

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dealing with them, you know, with, with

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local government units that have, you

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know, they have a different culture than

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us. So our aim is to really interface

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with them and be able to collaborate

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with them, in spite of the all the

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differences that we have with

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other organizations. And other institutions

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will have different

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ideologies, different perspectives about

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protecting heritage. But we aim to

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produce something positive, so, through

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our efforts, that, you know, in providing

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them with with capacity and training,

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and the tools needed for them to be able

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to identify their heritage. They'll able to

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come up with something tangible, such as

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coming up with their own cultural map of

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their town or their city, or simply just

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providing their, you know, their people,

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you know selected people from

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there, from from their towns and cities,

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with, with awareness and knowledge about

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their identified heritage more often

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than, um...

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The volunteer sets that we end up the

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people that we train. They'll even

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realize how rich their local

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heritage is until they actually attend

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their training. So our training is, you

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know, we try to be as holistic as

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possible with our training materials.

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In our training plan, we try to to make sure

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that the material is being understood by

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all levels of understanding by, you know,

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by different people who's attending our

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training sessions so that they'd be able,

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by the end of the training, they'd be

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able to actually identify document and

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manage, and be able to map these heritage

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resources in their own towns and cities,

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and be able to come up with a cultural

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map and then we get to you know to

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validate and and and verify their, their

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map, and upload it on the Philippine

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heritage map. So, um at any given point, we

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would train around ten to as much as 40

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individuals in, in, in a, in a given

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session it really varies I mean, we, we

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can, we would train a

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a local tourism office or a classroom of

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architecture students, or a, a, just, you

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know, a grassroot community. So yeah

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pretty much is all about training and

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giving them the a certain level of

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awareness about about the importance of

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protecting heritage, and we also do our

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training we try to fit in with certain

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international frameworks on documenting

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and identifying cultural heritage so we

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don't just, you know provide training

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that we just, you know, developed on the

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fly. We actually try to adhere to certain

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international standards. There are

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certain charters developed by UNESCO and

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the International Council on Monuments

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and Sites that have been, you know,

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adopted by several countries around the

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world, and we try to,  you know, we actually...

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those frameworks that we apply these

547
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:24,580
services are guidance to our, our

548
00:30:20,860 --> 00:30:29,140
training workshops so that, you know, they

549
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do get aligned with, with the, with the

550
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international standards whenever we give

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them training on cultural heritage.

552
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So yeah that's what we, that that is, that's

553
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our strategy, and that's how we work with

554
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groups of people. We have, a over the last

555
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,620
two years we have trained around a

556
00:30:51,060 --> 00:30:57,690
little less than three hundred people

557
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already. Okay that's great. So yeah, oh

558
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that's that's that's right that's a

559
00:31:00,610 --> 00:31:04,930
great progress I'd say. Yeah, that's all

560
00:31:03,220 --> 00:31:08,410
over the country by the way, so that

561
00:31:04,930 --> 00:31:10,900
comprised people, some people coming from

562
00:31:08,410 --> 00:31:12,940
the northernmost islands in the, in the

563
00:31:10,900 --> 00:31:18,220
Philippines, all the way down to the

564
00:31:12,940 --> 00:31:21,190
Muslim areas in the South. Okay, in the

565
00:31:18,220 --> 00:31:23,140
final and the last question about

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collaboration with international

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00:31:23,140 --> 00:31:27,430
communities like GLAM communities - where

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00:31:25,690 --> 00:31:30,370
are your plans to, kind of, collaborate

569
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and work together as you are already

570
00:31:30,370 --> 00:31:36,760
adhering to a lot of international

571
00:31:32,370 --> 00:31:38,350
frameworks. Do you ever, you know, have you

572
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,030
ever planned about collaborating with

573
00:31:38,350 --> 00:31:40,650
the GLAM community and do something

574
00:31:40,030 --> 00:31:46,540
together?

575
00:31:40,650 --> 00:31:49,840
Um.. yeah honestly we haven't exactly

576
00:31:46,540 --> 00:31:55,570
given much thought about it though, um...

577
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:59,920
because our focus is really, you know, our

578
00:31:55,570 --> 00:32:02,850
focus right now is to to really help

579
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:06,580
ourselves first, before we can actually

580
00:32:02,850 --> 00:32:07,690
start contributing to the you know to the

581
00:32:06,580 --> 00:32:09,850
international community.

582
00:32:07,690 --> 00:32:13,120
We're very you know we're very grateful

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00:32:09,850 --> 00:32:15,490
that that we were actually being

584
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,530
assisted by our international partners

585
00:32:15,490 --> 00:32:19,750
like World Monuments fund and Getty

586
00:32:17,530 --> 00:32:27,400
conservation Institute in, you know, in

587
00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:30,460
and, deploying our platform. Our map and

588
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:34,090
our databases are very much publicly

589
00:32:30,460 --> 00:32:35,830
accessible anyway. Our images of the

590
00:32:34,090 --> 00:32:37,420
of historical structures that are

591
00:32:35,830 --> 00:32:38,920
uploaded on the Filipino heritage map

592
00:32:37,420 --> 00:32:41,080
are placed on the Creative Commons and

593
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:44,290
and at anytime they can be accessed by

594
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:47,130
the open-source community. If we're going

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00:32:44,290 --> 00:32:50,440
to partner with a GLAM organization

596
00:32:47,130 --> 00:32:53,140
outside the Philippines we would be very

597
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:55,410
happy to collaborate soon. We just, you

598
00:32:53,140 --> 00:33:01,120
know, looking for the right opportunity

599
00:32:55,410 --> 00:33:03,720
so yeah, that, that is something we still

600
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:07,090
have to figure out how that

601
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,980
collaboration with, with, with a GLAM

602
00:33:07,090 --> 00:33:10,990
organzization outside the Philippines is

603
00:33:08,980 --> 00:33:12,880
going to happen because our focus really

604
00:33:10,990 --> 00:33:15,790
is here in the, here in our country for

605
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:18,040
the meantime. This is great, this is a

606
00:33:15,790 --> 00:33:19,540
really really great work. I was just also

607
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,670
going through your website when you shared

608
00:33:19,540 --> 00:33:22,210
these things and I found a lot of very

609
00:33:21,670 --> 00:33:24,670
valuable

610
00:33:22,210 --> 00:33:26,740
information, and especially in a

611
00:33:24,670 --> 00:33:29,410
country like yours where, you know,

612
00:33:26,740 --> 00:33:33,640
natural calamities can, can at any point

613
00:33:29,410 --> 00:33:35,590
of time, devastate historic monuments

614
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,410
like this. It's really really important

615
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:39,760
that they are documented in a more human,

616
00:33:38,410 --> 00:33:41,800
and both human and machine readable

617
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,440
forms, and that's something that, that's

618
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,760
very important. And as you as you already

619
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,550
mentioned that you're adhering to the

620
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,260
international standards, I personally

621
00:33:48,550 --> 00:33:52,990
feel that that's very important as well,

622
00:33:50,260 --> 00:33:55,990
because if it can be universally

623
00:33:52,990 --> 00:33:58,060
accessible and it's not just about

624
00:33:55,990 --> 00:34:01,090
Philippines but also about the world

625
00:33:58,060 --> 00:34:03,480
knowledge, and and then at any point of

626
00:34:01,090 --> 00:34:06,970
time anyone can access knowledge and

627
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:09,520
yeah that's that's great. And I'm really

628
00:34:06,970 --> 00:34:13,180
excited to also, kind of go through your

629
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:15,210
website, learn about it more and see the

630
00:34:13,180 --> 00:34:18,160
possibility of, kind of, helping

631
00:34:15,210 --> 00:34:20,200
communities here with something like

632
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,210
this, because this is very, this is really

633
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,370
really valuable and and we don't have

634
00:34:22,210 --> 00:34:26,920
something. For a country like India we

635
00:34:24,370 --> 00:34:31,690
also face the same problem that you ,you

636
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:34,060
faced there. Right yeah and we're looking

637
00:34:31,690 --> 00:34:37,240
forward to talk to you again, probably

638
00:34:34,060 --> 00:34:39,250
ask you more questions over email, learn

639
00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:41,830
about anything tha,  that interests me

640
00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:44,650
particularly, and also share these things

641
00:34:41,830 --> 00:34:46,810
with the wider community. Thank you so

642
00:34:44,650 --> 00:34:49,960
much Joel. It was really a pleasure

643
00:34:46,810 --> 00:34:52,390
talking to you. Great to learn about all

644
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:56,200
this important work that you have been

645
00:34:52,390 --> 00:35:01,120
doing so far. Yeah thank you so much Subha

646
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:04,750
Um it's not it's another every day that

647
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:10,840
I get to share our work on over a

648
00:35:04,750 --> 00:35:15,100
podcast but I'm very honored to, to, to be

649
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:19,900
your guest for this, this edition of your

650
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:23,380
podcast, and I'd be, you know I'd be very

651
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:28,060
glad to hear thoughts from the listeners

652
00:35:23,380 --> 00:35:30,030
of this podcast. If you like to ask me

653
00:35:28,060 --> 00:35:32,110
some more questions about our work

654
00:35:30,030 --> 00:35:34,330
anything that you need to, want to know

655
00:35:32,110 --> 00:35:35,300
about the data that we provide and all

656
00:35:34,330 --> 00:35:37,820
the other services,

657
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:40,070
and if, you know, actually our

658
00:35:37,820 --> 00:35:43,840
organization is an accredited service

659
00:35:40,070 --> 00:35:47,840
provider for the platform. If you want to

660
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:49,520
actually have the same platform that

661
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:53,330
we're using be deployed in your own

662
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:55,460
country we'd be ready to help and just

663
00:35:53,330 --> 00:36:00,860
shoot us an email.

664
00:35:55,460 --> 00:36:04,550
(Yeah) you can go to our website of our

665
00:36:00,860 --> 00:36:13,760
organization that's www.grupokalinangan.org

666
00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:17,990
it's wwwz g-r-u-p-o ka-Li-na-ngan-dot

667
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:22,160
org that's actually in Filipino it means

668
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:23,000
a team culture, mm-hmm yeah, team culture

669
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,360
org

670
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:28,520
and of course our platform is www open

671
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:32,720
heritage map org. You can send me an

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00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:35,420
email to Joel dot Aldor, d like dog,

673
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:38,570
at Philippine Heritage Map org

674
00:36:35,420 --> 00:36:41,030
For any questions or comments or any

675
00:36:38,570 --> 00:36:44,120
inquiries about us our organization and

676
00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:46,240
what we do, and if you need some help I'd

677
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:50,360
be very glad to hear your thoughts.

678
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:52,610
So, tank you, um, thank you so much again. I

679
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,250
would really love to visit you again in

680
00:36:52,610 --> 00:36:56,570
India one of these days and I'm looking

681
00:36:55,250 --> 00:36:59,390
forward to it again. Yeah

682
00:36:56,570 --> 00:37:01,460
thank you so much again bye-bye.

683
00:36:59,390 --> 00:37:03,830
Have a great day. Thank you have a good

684
00:37:01,460 --> 00:37:05,570
day! Great! So that was Joel Aldor from the

685
00:37:03,830 --> 00:37:07,490
Philippines who is leading a project

686
00:37:05,570 --> 00:37:09,980
called Philippine Heritage Map for

687
00:37:07,490 --> 00:37:12,080
documenting about historical monuments

688
00:37:09,980 --> 00:37:14,180
of the country. If you liked this episode

689
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,610
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690
00:37:14,180 --> 00:37:18,710
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691
00:37:16,610 --> 00:37:21,170
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692
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:24,430
I'm your host Subhashish, and thank you for

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