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1 00:00:00,126 --> 00:00:03,846 那麼不再耽擱,讓我們 有請 Katherine Maher 上台。 2 00:00:04,213 --> 00:00:08,647 她是維基媒體基金會的執行長。 3 00:00:14,329 --> 00:00:15,381 哈囉各位, 4 00:00:15,381 --> 00:00:18,954 如前面說的, 我來自維基媒體基金會, 5 00:00:18,954 --> 00:00:21,245 有就是幕後維護維基百科的組織。 6 00:00:21,245 --> 00:00:23,966 我們今天受邀來談談開放創新 7 00:00:23,966 --> 00:00:27,236 維基百科是開放創新的極好範例 8 00:00:27,236 --> 00:00:29,126 社群們共同合作 9 00:00:29,126 --> 00:00:30,569 來創造一些比單個社群 10 00:00:30,569 --> 00:00:32,212 要更偉大的總和 11 00:00:32,212 --> 00:00:34,103 在維基媒體,我們的願景是 12 00:00:34,103 --> 00:00:35,664 讓世上每一個人都能自由的 13 00:00:35,664 --> 00:00:36,798 分享知識總和的世界。 14 00:00:36,798 --> 00:00:38,906 我們對此非常認真的看待。 15 00:00:38,906 --> 00:00:41,224 維基人耗費數百萬計小時打造 16 00:00:41,224 --> 00:00:43,378 一件人類最非凡的資源: 17 00:00:43,378 --> 00:00:45,497 四千萬篇條目、三百種語言, 18 00:00:45,497 --> 00:00:47,685 每個月有五十億人次使用 19 00:00:47,685 --> 00:00:49,148 他們五十億人次使用 20 00:00:49,148 --> 00:00:52,540 從北極圈的科學觀測站 到倫敦這裡。 21 00:00:52,540 --> 00:00:55,396 但在朝向累積知識總體的路上 22 00:00:55,396 --> 00:00:56,524 也有遭遇問題, 23 00:00:56,524 --> 00:00:58,005 我今天想跟你們分享這些問題。 24 00:00:58,005 --> 00:00:59,901 因為它們不是維基媒體的問題, 25 00:00:59,901 --> 00:01:01,585 它們是我們的問題—— 26 00:01:01,585 --> 00:01:03,090 網路的問題、 27 00:01:03,090 --> 00:01:04,252 以及社會的問題。 28 00:01:04,252 --> 00:01:06,858 如果我們真要實現 開放的力量, 29 00:01:06,858 --> 00:01:08,515 我們必需攜手一起來解決。 30 00:01:09,715 --> 00:01:11,663 所以我想要以一個故事 31 00:01:11,663 --> 00:01:15,117 為今天的演講開場。 在維基媒體裡,你可以成為任何人。 32 00:01:15,117 --> 00:01:17,498 我們致力於提供使用者匿名或筆名的支援。 33 00:01:17,623 --> 00:01:19,423 這意味著有時候維基人 34 00:01:19,423 --> 00:01:20,845 會使用頗富創意的使用者帳號 35 00:01:21,190 --> 00:01:23,098 我最喜歡的使用者名稱之一,同時也是 36 00:01:23,098 --> 00:01:24,399 我最喜愛的使用者之一,就是 37 00:01:24,399 --> 00:01:26,065 一位叫做GorillaWarfare的使用者。 38 00:01:26,065 --> 00:01:28,313 GorillaWarfare編輯英文維基百科資歷 39 00:01:28,313 --> 00:01:29,740 已經超過10年了。 40 00:01:29,740 --> 00:01:31,734 她曾獲選擔任數個 41 00:01:31,734 --> 00:01:33,860 英文維基社群的領導職務, 42 00:01:33,860 --> 00:01:35,788 包括管理員、用戶查核員、 43 00:01:35,788 --> 00:01:37,616 監管員,以及仲裁員 44 00:01:37,616 --> 00:01:39,913 也許有些人對維基媒體的事務 45 00:01:39,913 --> 00:01:41,174 並不太熟悉,上面這些職位 46 00:01:41,174 --> 00:01:42,923 都是維基之中很重要的角色。 47 00:01:42,923 --> 00:01:44,480 這些角色通常需要處理 48 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,152 維基百科上敏感性的資訊 49 00:01:47,152 --> 00:01:48,130 或是緊急的情況。 50 00:01:48,130 --> 00:01:50,213 他們都被維基媒體基金會 51 00:01:50,213 --> 00:01:51,504 以及其同儕們所信任。 52 00:01:51,504 --> 00:01:53,310 They're charged with keeping policies 53 00:01:53,310 --> 00:01:56,181 adhere too, arbitrating community disputes, 54 00:01:56,181 --> 00:01:58,393 and investigating some of the most challenging 55 00:01:58,393 --> 00:02:00,319 issues, such as threats of self-harm 56 00:02:00,319 --> 00:02:02,904 or harm to others. 57 00:02:02,904 --> 00:02:04,545 They are not to be taken lightly. 58 00:02:07,725 --> 00:02:09,869 GorillaWarfare also happens to be a young woman, 59 00:02:09,869 --> 00:02:12,620 who is open about her name and gender on Wikipedia. 60 00:02:12,620 --> 00:02:15,349 GorillaWarfare is Molly Wight. 61 00:02:15,349 --> 00:02:17,810 Molly gave a permission to tell her story here today. 62 00:02:17,810 --> 00:02:19,861 Molly is a software engineer who also 63 00:02:19,861 --> 00:02:22,451 loves to rescue cats and encourage women in tech. 64 00:02:22,451 --> 00:02:24,207 She is a real-life person, with a job, 65 00:02:24,207 --> 00:02:27,250 interests, skills and accomplishments. 66 00:02:27,250 --> 00:02:29,750 She is also a target of repeated harrassment 67 00:02:29,750 --> 00:02:31,994 because of her involvement with Wikipedia. 68 00:02:31,994 --> 00:02:34,332 She has been targeted by people, who disagree 69 00:02:34,332 --> 00:02:36,185 with the call she made her an administrator. 70 00:02:36,185 --> 00:02:38,628 She has been targeted for her physical appearance. 71 00:02:38,628 --> 00:02:40,898 She also has been targeted for no apparent other reasons 72 00:02:40,898 --> 00:02:42,994 than she was an editor, is an editor, 73 00:02:42,994 --> 00:02:44,936 who openly identifies as a woman. 74 00:02:44,936 --> 00:02:48,037 Molly has been harassed on Wikipedia and off. 75 00:02:48,037 --> 00:02:49,975 Posts have been made implying that 76 00:02:49,975 --> 00:02:51,521 she was elected to her leadership roles 77 00:02:51,521 --> 00:02:52,971 because of her appearance, 78 00:02:52,971 --> 00:02:55,532 because of sexual involvement with other Wikimedians 79 00:02:55,532 --> 00:02:57,717 or because she has tongue piercings. 80 00:02:57,717 --> 00:02:59,490 Recently, she told me, she was greeded 81 00:02:59,490 --> 00:03:02,210 on a talk page on-wiki by someone saying 82 00:03:02,210 --> 00:03:05,772 she was "homosexual jew who deserves to be shot dead". 83 00:03:07,202 --> 00:03:09,932 While these posts a reverted on Wikimedia, 84 00:03:09,932 --> 00:03:11,822 the harassment continues across the internet. 85 00:03:11,822 --> 00:03:14,030 She's been doxed. 86 00:03:14,030 --> 00:03:15,572 Her private Facebook account has been posted 87 00:03:15,572 --> 00:03:18,833 to 4chan, Encyclopedia Dramatica, and Reddit. 88 00:03:18,833 --> 00:03:21,283 People have dug into her relatives' Facebook pages 89 00:03:21,283 --> 00:03:23,978 with fewer privacy settings than hers. 90 00:03:23,978 --> 00:03:27,443 They shared photos of Molly to various websites. 91 00:03:27,443 --> 00:03:29,402 photoshopping her face onto lewd images 92 00:03:29,402 --> 00:03:30,957 and they’ve taken a photo 93 00:03:30,957 --> 00:03:31,938 of her with her baby niece, 94 00:03:31,938 --> 00:03:34,414 and captioned it with racial slurs. 95 00:03:34,414 --> 00:03:35,813 They’ve added data to these images, 96 00:03:35,813 --> 00:03:36,664 to make sure that 97 00:03:36,664 --> 00:03:37,687 they’re some of the first results 98 00:03:37,687 --> 00:03:38,585 you see when you search 99 00:03:38,585 --> 00:03:40,473 for her name or user name. 100 00:03:40,473 --> 00:03:41,799 A slew of Twitter accounts 101 00:03:41,799 --> 00:03:43,360 have been created to harass her, 102 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:44,817 commenting on her physical appearance, 103 00:03:44,817 --> 00:03:48,321 her weight, her family, her sexual preferences. 104 00:03:48,321 --> 00:03:50,559 Calling these “comments” 105 00:03:50,559 --> 00:03:52,222 is actually a bit of a euphemism, 106 00:03:52,222 --> 00:03:53,397 they’re pretty terrible. 107 00:03:53,397 --> 00:03:54,876 And of course, when reported, 108 00:03:54,876 --> 00:03:57,152 Twitter decided they were not in fact abuse. 109 00:03:57,152 --> 00:03:58,319 Occasionally, 110 00:03:58,319 --> 00:03:59,472 when the harassment is pretty bad, 111 00:03:59,472 --> 00:04:02,156 it begins to affect her offline as well. 112 00:04:02,156 --> 00:04:03,863 Molly worked on an arbitration case 113 00:04:03,863 --> 00:04:05,401 involving Gamergate. 114 00:04:05,401 --> 00:04:06,723 She stopped answering calls 115 00:04:06,723 --> 00:04:07,957 from unknown numbers. 116 00:04:07,957 --> 00:04:08,692 She told me 117 00:04:08,692 --> 00:04:09,555 that she goes so far 118 00:04:09,555 --> 00:04:12,480 as to impose privacy protections on her friends as well, 119 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:13,772 who are often not as concerned 120 00:04:13,772 --> 00:04:15,032 about these kinds of things, 121 00:04:15,032 --> 00:04:15,790 for example, 122 00:04:15,790 --> 00:04:16,707 recently asking someone 123 00:04:16,707 --> 00:04:17,920 to take down an image 124 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:18,694 that had been geo-tagged 125 00:04:18,694 --> 00:04:20,768 on Instagram from her apartment. 126 00:04:21,298 --> 00:04:22,819 She no longer believes that privacy 127 00:04:22,819 --> 00:04:23,991 on the web can be real, 128 00:04:23,991 --> 00:04:25,253 and has become very cautious 129 00:04:25,253 --> 00:04:28,629 about anything that she says on the internet. 130 00:04:28,629 --> 00:04:29,526 She feels that everything 131 00:04:29,526 --> 00:04:30,168 that she does 132 00:04:30,168 --> 00:04:31,666 will be viewed through the lens of people 133 00:04:31,666 --> 00:04:35,232 who already believe that she’s a terrible person. 134 00:04:35,232 --> 00:04:37,119 So why am I telling you all of this? 135 00:04:38,249 --> 00:04:38,996 Because unfortunately, 136 00:04:38,996 --> 00:04:40,999 Molly’s story is not unique. 137 00:04:44,579 --> 00:04:47,654 A 2015 survey conducted by the Wikimedia Foundation 138 00:04:47,654 --> 00:04:49,791 found that 38% of responding users 139 00:04:49,791 --> 00:04:51,339 had experienced being harassed on 140 00:04:51,339 --> 00:04:53,716 or about the Wikimedia projects. 141 00:04:53,716 --> 00:04:55,018 Many of them are women, 142 00:04:55,018 --> 00:04:55,700 people of color, 143 00:04:55,700 --> 00:04:57,725 people of non-binary gender identities, 144 00:04:57,725 --> 00:04:59,126 people from places other than 145 00:04:59,126 --> 00:05:01,340 Europe or North America. 146 00:05:01,890 --> 00:05:03,471 And more than half of these people 147 00:05:03,471 --> 00:05:05,775 reported leaving or decreasing their participation 148 00:05:05,775 --> 00:05:07,261 in the Wikimedia projects 149 00:05:07,261 --> 00:05:09,390 as a result of this harassment. 150 00:05:09,390 --> 00:05:10,349 We’re missing their voices, 151 00:05:10,349 --> 00:05:12,441 and we’re missing their knowledge. 152 00:05:12,441 --> 00:05:14,473 And why does this matter? 153 00:05:14,473 --> 00:05:15,787 Well, English Wikipedia, 154 00:05:15,787 --> 00:05:16,712 which is widely regarded 155 00:05:16,712 --> 00:05:18,649 as the most complete Wikipedia, 156 00:05:18,649 --> 00:05:20,562 has about five million articles. 157 00:05:20,562 --> 00:05:21,962 But on English Wikipedia, 158 00:05:21,962 --> 00:05:24,167 only 16% of the more than 159 00:05:24,167 --> 00:05:27,086 1.3 million biographies are of women. 160 00:05:27,086 --> 00:05:29,855 In a 2012 evaluation, 161 00:05:29,855 --> 00:05:31,622 by the Oxford Internet Institute, 162 00:05:31,622 --> 00:05:33,557 they found that more than half of the articles 163 00:05:33,557 --> 00:05:34,720 on Wikipedia are about places 164 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,372 events, and people, that only 165 00:05:36,372 --> 00:05:39,992 represent 2.5% of the world’s land area. 166 00:05:39,992 --> 00:05:41,002 And of all the geo-tagged 167 00:05:41,002 --> 00:05:42,409 articles on Wikipedia, 168 00:05:42,409 --> 00:05:44,749 only 2.6% actually represent 169 00:05:44,749 --> 00:05:46,265 anything on the continent 170 00:05:46,265 --> 00:05:46,975 of Africa, 171 00:05:46,975 --> 00:05:47,856 which holds 14% 172 00:05:47,856 --> 00:05:49,640 of the world’s population. 173 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,038 At the Wikimedia Foundation, 174 00:05:51,038 --> 00:05:52,223 we know that representation 175 00:05:52,223 --> 00:05:53,404 and quality of articles 176 00:05:53,404 --> 00:05:54,852 improve when more people contribute, 177 00:05:54,852 --> 00:05:56,882 and when more diverse people contribute. 178 00:05:56,882 --> 00:05:59,691 And of the five million articles, 179 00:05:59,691 --> 00:06:01,541 that’s just the beginning. 180 00:06:01,541 --> 00:06:02,930 Never mind all the world’s knowledge, 181 00:06:02,930 --> 00:06:04,069 we’re just getting started. 182 00:06:04,069 --> 00:06:05,292 There’s a current estimation 183 00:06:05,292 --> 00:06:06,252 by one of our Wikimedians 184 00:06:06,252 --> 00:06:07,242 that there are about 185 00:06:07,242 --> 00:06:09,192 a hundred and four million notable things 186 00:06:09,192 --> 00:06:10,215 out there in the world. 187 00:06:10,215 --> 00:06:11,823 Which leaves ninety-nine million things 188 00:06:11,823 --> 00:06:13,086 that have not yet been represented, 189 00:06:13,086 --> 00:06:14,064 in part, 190 00:06:14,064 --> 00:06:15,560 because we are not seeing representation 191 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,528 of the people who actually are familiar 192 00:06:17,528 --> 00:06:18,574 with these subjects and 193 00:06:18,574 --> 00:06:21,313 can contribute that knowledge. 194 00:06:21,313 --> 00:06:23,214 And this isn’t just a problem with Wikimedia. 195 00:06:23,214 --> 00:06:24,909 This is a problem of the internet. 196 00:06:25,509 --> 00:06:27,056 Our internet. 197 00:06:27,786 --> 00:06:29,533 73 % of Americans, 198 00:06:29,533 --> 00:06:30,361 adult users, 199 00:06:30,361 --> 00:06:32,136 have witnessed online harassment, 200 00:06:32,136 --> 00:06:33,318 and 40% of them have 201 00:06:33,318 --> 00:06:35,153 experienced it themselves. 202 00:06:35,153 --> 00:06:37,783 This is was not what 203 00:06:37,783 --> 00:06:39,629 our internet was supposed to be. 204 00:06:39,629 --> 00:06:40,776 I’m old enough to remember 205 00:06:40,776 --> 00:06:41,876 the early internet, 206 00:06:41,876 --> 00:06:43,867 and it was a magical place, 207 00:06:43,867 --> 00:06:45,045 where you could find almost 208 00:06:45,045 --> 00:06:46,560 anything and anyone. 209 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,303 It was a place for creativity and freedom, 210 00:06:48,303 --> 00:06:50,829 a place for connection and belonging. 211 00:06:50,829 --> 00:06:52,970 Wikimedia was born in the early internet, 212 00:06:52,970 --> 00:06:54,422 and we still believe in that magic; 213 00:06:54,422 --> 00:06:56,358 we believe in freedom of expression 214 00:06:56,358 --> 00:06:57,785 and freedom of information, 215 00:06:57,785 --> 00:06:59,494 and the ability to share our knowledge, 216 00:06:59,494 --> 00:07:01,342 thoughts, and desires for the future, 217 00:07:01,342 --> 00:07:03,041 freely with the world. 218 00:07:03,041 --> 00:07:05,189 Harassment threatens that sharing. 219 00:07:05,189 --> 00:07:06,563 Many of us here are advocates 220 00:07:06,563 --> 00:07:07,622 for the open web, 221 00:07:07,622 --> 00:07:08,477 and as Wikimedians, 222 00:07:08,477 --> 00:07:10,349 advocates of collaboration and openness, 223 00:07:10,349 --> 00:07:11,562 we are fiercely committed to protecting that. 224 00:07:11,562 --> 00:07:14,123 But if we protect the open web 225 00:07:14,123 --> 00:07:16,082 for it to simply become a place of 226 00:07:16,082 --> 00:07:17,368 hatred and fear, 227 00:07:17,368 --> 00:07:19,325 then what are we protecting it for? 228 00:07:19,325 --> 00:07:20,531 If we close out the voices 229 00:07:20,531 --> 00:07:22,059 of those who are harassed, 230 00:07:22,059 --> 00:07:23,328 and they are told that their 231 00:07:23,328 --> 00:07:24,572 contributions are not valid, 232 00:07:24,572 --> 00:07:25,927 they are not welcome here, 233 00:07:25,927 --> 00:07:27,662 then what is openness? 234 00:07:28,462 --> 00:07:29,871 We don’t just need an open web, 235 00:07:29,871 --> 00:07:31,045 we need an inclusive web. 236 00:07:31,045 --> 00:07:32,223 And I’m here to tell you 237 00:07:32,223 --> 00:07:33,627 that while we may not have it right yet, 238 00:07:33,627 --> 00:07:35,416 Wikimedia is here to fight for the right 239 00:07:35,416 --> 00:07:37,505 to participation and inclusivity. 240 00:07:38,375 --> 00:07:39,032 After all, 241 00:07:39,032 --> 00:07:40,357 our vision is a world in which 242 00:07:40,357 --> 00:07:41,594 every single human can freely share 243 00:07:41,594 --> 00:07:43,097 in the sum of all knowledge. 244 00:07:43,097 --> 00:07:45,029 That’s not just a statement, 245 00:07:45,029 --> 00:07:46,572 that is a promise of inclusivity, 246 00:07:46,572 --> 00:07:48,033 it’s a part of what we do. 247 00:07:48,033 --> 00:07:50,428 Every single human, all knowledge. 248 00:07:50,428 --> 00:07:53,123 For us, inclusivity isn’t just an aspiration, 249 00:07:53,123 --> 00:07:54,609 it is a necessity. 250 00:07:54,609 --> 00:07:56,078 It is not a nice-to-have, 251 00:07:56,078 --> 00:07:57,647 it is a need-to-have. 252 00:07:57,647 --> 00:07:58,945 For us to have all knowledge, 253 00:07:58,945 --> 00:08:01,565 we require the participation of all people. 254 00:08:01,565 --> 00:08:03,216 We need all voices together 255 00:08:03,216 --> 00:08:04,731 so that we can create something greater 256 00:08:04,731 --> 00:08:06,518 than the sum of our individual parts. 257 00:08:06,518 --> 00:08:08,509 Which brings me back to Molly. 258 00:08:08,509 --> 00:08:09,941 We need more Mollies. 259 00:08:09,941 --> 00:08:11,113 But people shouldn’t have to 260 00:08:11,113 --> 00:08:13,751 be as tough as Molly in order to participate. 261 00:08:15,061 --> 00:08:16,767 So how are we going to do this? 262 00:08:16,767 --> 00:08:18,595 I don’t have all the answers. 263 00:08:18,595 --> 00:08:19,643 These are systemic issues. 264 00:08:19,643 --> 00:08:20,545 These are very deep within 265 00:08:20,545 --> 00:08:22,026 our cultures and societies 266 00:08:22,026 --> 00:08:23,321 as human beings. 267 00:08:23,321 --> 00:08:25,783 But I believe we must start with intention. 268 00:08:25,783 --> 00:08:27,723 We must start by naming the problem, 269 00:08:27,723 --> 00:08:30,477 by articulating what it is we stand for. 270 00:08:30,477 --> 00:08:31,967 Standing on stage and declaring 271 00:08:31,967 --> 00:08:33,651 that this matters. 272 00:08:33,651 --> 00:08:34,903 Backing it up with the data 273 00:08:34,903 --> 00:08:36,570 that I’ve just shared with you. 274 00:08:36,570 --> 00:08:39,154 Changing the narrative. 275 00:08:39,154 --> 00:08:41,714 So, how can you do this in your community? 276 00:08:41,714 --> 00:08:42,640 How can you support this 277 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,205 open inclusive web that we need? 278 00:08:44,205 --> 00:08:47,138 Start with active outreach and listening. 279 00:08:47,138 --> 00:08:49,935 Identify the people who are not here yet, 280 00:08:49,935 --> 00:08:51,776 the people that you want to work with. 281 00:08:51,776 --> 00:08:53,236 And go and talk to them, 282 00:08:53,236 --> 00:08:54,580 listen to them 283 00:08:54,580 --> 00:08:55,629 – more importantly than talk 284 00:08:55,629 --> 00:08:57,157 You have to understand 285 00:08:57,157 --> 00:08:58,614 why they are not working with you yet, 286 00:08:58,614 --> 00:08:59,608 what are their objections, 287 00:08:59,608 --> 00:09:01,844 what are they – why aren’t they here, 288 00:09:01,844 --> 00:09:03,272 and not dismiss those objections 289 00:09:03,272 --> 00:09:04,724 because this is the way that we work 290 00:09:04,724 --> 00:09:06,081 and this is the way that our communities 291 00:09:06,081 --> 00:09:07,545 work and our cultures work, 292 00:09:07,545 --> 00:09:09,514 but actually reflect on them, 293 00:09:09,514 --> 00:09:11,327 and think about where we need to make changes. 294 00:09:11,327 --> 00:09:12,989 For us, for example, 295 00:09:12,989 --> 00:09:14,891 this meant surveying our users 296 00:09:14,891 --> 00:09:15,968 about harassment, 297 00:09:15,968 --> 00:09:17,515 and publishing the results of that. 298 00:09:17,515 --> 00:09:18,724 In fact, a recent article 299 00:09:18,724 --> 00:09:20,154 in the Guardian identified Wikimedia 300 00:09:20,154 --> 00:09:21,765 as one of the only organizations 301 00:09:21,765 --> 00:09:23,660 out there that actually does this. 302 00:09:23,660 --> 00:09:24,501 We do this because 303 00:09:24,501 --> 00:09:25,442 we believe that we need to be 304 00:09:25,442 --> 00:09:26,435 honest with ourselves. 305 00:09:26,435 --> 00:09:27,506 We need to name the problem 306 00:09:27,506 --> 00:09:28,878 in order to address it. 307 00:09:28,878 --> 00:09:30,897 Which gets me to my next point. 308 00:09:30,897 --> 00:09:33,367 Respectful, diverse, inclusive communities 309 00:09:33,367 --> 00:09:35,017 don’t just happen because you want them to. 310 00:09:35,017 --> 00:09:37,019 You actually have to resource it. 311 00:09:37,019 --> 00:09:38,206 We used to do this thing, 312 00:09:38,206 --> 00:09:39,110 where we sat around 313 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:40,202 and we talked about having 314 00:09:40,202 --> 00:09:41,519 a more welcoming community 315 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:42,631 for women and people of color 316 00:09:42,631 --> 00:09:44,397 and people from the global south. 317 00:09:44,397 --> 00:09:47,014 It didn’t really get us very far. 318 00:09:47,014 --> 00:09:48,205 So now, we actually have 319 00:09:48,205 --> 00:09:49,476 dedicated budget, resources, 320 00:09:49,476 --> 00:09:51,579 and staff, who actually work 321 00:09:51,579 --> 00:09:52,914 with our emerging communities, 322 00:09:52,914 --> 00:09:54,157 to help these groups participate, 323 00:09:54,157 --> 00:09:56,317 and grow, and understand 324 00:09:56,317 --> 00:09:58,288 what their needs and barriers are. 325 00:09:58,288 --> 00:10:00,136 Part of our model is community grants. 326 00:10:00,136 --> 00:10:01,736 In the last two years we’ve set aside 327 00:10:01,736 --> 00:10:03,694 half a million dollars to fund resources 328 00:10:03,694 --> 00:10:05,736 for increasing gender diversity 329 00:10:05,736 --> 00:10:08,386 and addressing tools and initiatives 330 00:10:08,386 --> 00:10:09,546 to support healthy culture. 331 00:10:09,546 --> 00:10:10,694 We’re working with our 332 00:10:10,694 --> 00:10:12,133 community members in order to understand 333 00:10:12,133 --> 00:10:13,486 what the issues are that they see 334 00:10:13,486 --> 00:10:15,255 and give them training and tools 335 00:10:15,255 --> 00:10:17,152 so they can identify toxic behavior 336 00:10:17,152 --> 00:10:19,749 and take effective action on their own. 337 00:10:19,749 --> 00:10:21,551 So that it comes from within the community, 338 00:10:21,551 --> 00:10:23,599 not from above or outside. 339 00:10:24,529 --> 00:10:26,893 Set clear expectations. 340 00:10:26,893 --> 00:10:28,245 In addition to letting people know 341 00:10:28,245 --> 00:10:29,589 that you want them to join your community, 342 00:10:29,589 --> 00:10:31,318 it has to come from the community 343 00:10:31,318 --> 00:10:33,802 as to what the rules of engagement actually are, 344 00:10:33,802 --> 00:10:35,762 so that you can identify when people 345 00:10:35,762 --> 00:10:37,033 are acting outside of those barriers 346 00:10:37,033 --> 00:10:38,333 and of those rules. 347 00:10:38,333 --> 00:10:39,441 You need to be clear within 348 00:10:39,441 --> 00:10:40,945 your community 349 00:10:40,945 --> 00:10:41,769 on how to welcome people, 350 00:10:41,769 --> 00:10:42,406 engage people, 351 00:10:42,406 --> 00:10:43,631 and make space for people 352 00:10:43,631 --> 00:10:44,834 to participate. 353 00:10:44,834 --> 00:10:46,095 For us, this means friendly spaces 354 00:10:46,095 --> 00:10:47,159 and codes of conduct, 355 00:10:47,159 --> 00:10:48,127 and much more, 356 00:10:48,127 --> 00:10:50,590 but it also means clarifying our values, 357 00:10:50,590 --> 00:10:52,315 so that they’re not just about open, 358 00:10:52,315 --> 00:10:54,177 but they’re about diverse and inclusive, 359 00:10:54,177 --> 00:10:55,687 so that we as a community 360 00:10:55,687 --> 00:10:57,271 can make decisions about the culture 361 00:10:57,271 --> 00:10:58,325 that we want, 362 00:10:58,325 --> 00:10:59,442 and reject the culture 363 00:10:59,442 --> 00:11:02,613 that we don’t want, that is unhealthy. 364 00:11:02,613 --> 00:11:05,035 We have a lot of work to do. 365 00:11:05,035 --> 00:11:05,892 I know that. 366 00:11:05,892 --> 00:11:06,651 We know that. 367 00:11:06,651 --> 00:11:08,023 As Molly’s story illustrates, 368 00:11:08,023 --> 00:11:09,737 we are not there yet. 369 00:11:09,737 --> 00:11:11,590 But we want to make space for everyone. 370 00:11:11,590 --> 00:11:13,432 We need to make space for everyone. 371 00:11:13,432 --> 00:11:15,115 This isn’t just an aspiration, 372 00:11:15,115 --> 00:11:17,047 this is a necessity. 373 00:11:17,047 --> 00:11:18,494 And I know that all of us here 374 00:11:18,494 --> 00:11:19,838 in this room are committed to it, 375 00:11:19,838 --> 00:11:22,097 because you’re here in this room. 376 00:11:22,097 --> 00:11:24,156 So I encourage you all to go forward, 377 00:11:24,156 --> 00:11:25,677 with these thoughts in mind, 378 00:11:25,677 --> 00:11:27,105 continue your work 379 00:11:27,105 --> 00:11:28,928 –– and continue working with us –– 380 00:11:28,928 --> 00:11:30,062 because as I said, 381 00:11:30,062 --> 00:11:30,869 we’re not perfect, 382 00:11:30,869 --> 00:11:32,236 we have a way to go, 383 00:11:32,236 --> 00:11:33,275 but this actually matters, 384 00:11:33,275 --> 00:11:35,282 and it matters not just because 385 00:11:35,282 --> 00:11:37,251 it’s something that we feel is important, 386 00:11:37,251 --> 00:11:39,221 it is not an aspiration as I said, 387 00:11:39,221 --> 00:11:41,040 it is actually a necessity 388 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,118 to represent the web and 389 00:11:42,118 --> 00:11:43,410 the world that we want. 390 00:11:43,410 --> 00:11:44,295 Thank you. 391 00:11:44,295 --> 00:11:45,469 (Applause) 392 00:11:45,469 --> 00:11:46,861 And thanks, Molly. 393 00:11:50,671 --> 00:11:52,226 Oh, questions. 394 00:11:52,226 --> 00:11:53,379 Who has a question for Katherine? 395 00:12:01,549 --> 00:12:02,954 Down here. 396 00:12:05,774 --> 00:12:07,014 Hello Katherine. 397 00:12:07,204 --> 00:12:07,988 Hi. 398 00:12:07,988 --> 00:12:09,252 My name is Gustavo, 399 00:12:09,252 --> 00:12:11,629 I’m a reporter from a Brazilian tech website. 400 00:12:11,629 --> 00:12:14,874 First of all thank you for all the, 401 00:12:14,874 --> 00:12:17,278 for the amazing talk. 402 00:12:17,278 --> 00:12:19,219 Secondly, 403 00:12:19,219 --> 00:12:21,064 one thing I hear a lot 404 00:12:21,064 --> 00:12:22,817 is that when people talk 405 00:12:22,817 --> 00:12:25,283 about the importance of an open internet, 406 00:12:25,283 --> 00:12:29,004 these negative examples of harassment 407 00:12:29,004 --> 00:12:31,152 are shown sometimes 408 00:12:31,152 --> 00:12:33,461 in such a light so as to say, 409 00:12:33,461 --> 00:12:35,560 "Oh look this is what happens when you have 410 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:37,532 a completely open community, 411 00:12:37,532 --> 00:12:39,184 we can’t have that." 412 00:12:39,184 --> 00:12:40,663 "We need to control the internet 413 00:12:40,663 --> 00:12:41,737 so that we have the power 414 00:12:41,737 --> 00:12:44,411 to not let this happen", 415 00:12:44,411 --> 00:12:47,287 so these situations are 416 00:12:47,287 --> 00:12:50,270 used to justify something, 417 00:12:50,270 --> 00:12:51,713 I imagine, 418 00:12:51,713 --> 00:12:53,906 equally negative. 419 00:12:53,906 --> 00:12:55,939 So how to you answer to that, 420 00:12:55,939 --> 00:12:57,403 in those cases? 421 00:12:57,403 --> 00:12:59,909 This actually came up right before 422 00:12:59,909 --> 00:13:01,246 I came on stage, 423 00:13:01,246 --> 00:13:02,288 someone was asking about, 424 00:13:02,288 --> 00:13:04,121 for example the issue of anonymity, 425 00:13:04,121 --> 00:13:06,378 which is something that we firmly believe in. 426 00:13:06,378 --> 00:13:07,416 In fact we used to 427 00:13:07,416 --> 00:13:08,612 have this saying about 428 00:13:08,612 --> 00:13:10,243 Wikipedia that part of the reason 429 00:13:10,243 --> 00:13:11,130 it works is because more 430 00:13:11,130 --> 00:13:13,475 people actually want good things than want bad 431 00:13:13,475 --> 00:13:15,054 – if people only wanted bad, 432 00:13:15,054 --> 00:13:16,787 we would never be possible. 433 00:13:16,787 --> 00:13:19,680 You know, from our perspective, 434 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:21,266 it is actually about bad, 435 00:13:21,266 --> 00:13:22,655 it’s that we believe that most people 436 00:13:22,655 --> 00:13:24,311 who participate in our community 437 00:13:24,311 --> 00:13:25,856 and in the open web are 438 00:13:25,856 --> 00:13:26,814 generally there because 439 00:13:26,814 --> 00:13:29,236 they are appreciative of the good parts 440 00:13:29,236 --> 00:13:30,002 about it, the creativity, 441 00:13:30,002 --> 00:13:32,161 the innovation, the connection. 442 00:13:32,161 --> 00:13:33,469 And one of the things 443 00:13:33,469 --> 00:13:34,720 that we have found is 444 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:35,887 that we actually think 445 00:13:35,887 --> 00:13:37,289 that addressing some of these issues, 446 00:13:37,289 --> 00:13:40,826 for us, is possible and not – 447 00:13:41,996 --> 00:13:43,549 I think there’s a feeling 448 00:13:43,549 --> 00:13:46,237 that these are really pernicious issues 449 00:13:46,237 --> 00:13:47,926 and they could be impossible to address, 450 00:13:47,926 --> 00:13:48,946 but one of the things 451 00:13:48,946 --> 00:13:50,788 that we found is that by starting 452 00:13:50,788 --> 00:13:51,829 in a place where we have a 453 00:13:51,829 --> 00:13:54,330 culture around expectations, 454 00:13:54,330 --> 00:13:55,578 around what the things 455 00:13:55,578 --> 00:13:56,936 are that the community actually 456 00:13:56,936 --> 00:13:57,980 wants and what the, 457 00:13:57,980 --> 00:13:59,746 sort of, guidelines are for participation, 458 00:13:59,746 --> 00:14:01,823 it’s around clarifying 459 00:14:01,823 --> 00:14:03,306 within that culture that expectations, 460 00:14:03,306 --> 00:14:05,553 and building and strengthening 461 00:14:05,553 --> 00:14:06,990 and reinforcing it. 462 00:14:06,990 --> 00:14:08,229 I think that if you start 463 00:14:08,229 --> 00:14:10,209 from zero it becomes very difficult, 464 00:14:10,209 --> 00:14:11,187 and we’ve seen that 465 00:14:11,187 --> 00:14:12,364 in the number of communities 466 00:14:12,364 --> 00:14:13,605 on the web in general, 467 00:14:13,605 --> 00:14:15,123 is that if you have no rules 468 00:14:15,123 --> 00:14:17,209 and you have no expectations 469 00:14:17,209 --> 00:14:18,709 about how to participate, 470 00:14:18,709 --> 00:14:21,349 it becomes very difficult to then later set them. 471 00:14:21,349 --> 00:14:22,814 But if you start from a place 472 00:14:22,814 --> 00:14:25,246 with understanding around belonging 473 00:14:25,246 --> 00:14:26,562 and understanding about 474 00:14:26,562 --> 00:14:27,592 community norms and behavior, 475 00:14:27,592 --> 00:14:28,561 then you can actually 476 00:14:28,561 --> 00:14:29,487 start to bring people back 477 00:14:29,487 --> 00:14:31,230 into those community behaviors. 478 00:14:32,750 --> 00:14:34,895 And so I’m hopeful that, 479 00:14:34,895 --> 00:14:37,933 based on the fact that 480 00:14:37,933 --> 00:14:39,821 we have a sense of commitment 481 00:14:39,821 --> 00:14:41,020 to norms and behaviors 482 00:14:41,020 --> 00:14:43,011 around what we want in the community, 483 00:14:43,011 --> 00:14:44,419 it's about strengthening them, 484 00:14:44,419 --> 00:14:46,296 and seeing them succeed. 485 00:14:46,296 --> 00:14:48,664 I’m not sure if that answers your question, but... 486 00:14:49,774 --> 00:14:51,880 Anybody other burning questions? 487 00:14:52,020 --> 00:14:52,750 Yes. 488 00:14:52,830 --> 00:14:54,508 In the orange shirt. 489 00:15:01,428 --> 00:15:03,359 Hi, thank you for speaking, 490 00:15:03,359 --> 00:15:04,619 In which ways are you 491 00:15:04,619 --> 00:15:05,591 supporting the people 492 00:15:05,591 --> 00:15:06,758 who are contributing 493 00:15:06,758 --> 00:15:08,933 and administrators and editors 494 00:15:08,933 --> 00:15:11,074 for coming with you with 495 00:15:11,074 --> 00:15:13,168 concerns about being harassed online? 496 00:15:13,168 --> 00:15:14,025 Sure. 497 00:15:14,115 --> 00:15:16,014 So we have a support and safety team 498 00:15:16,014 --> 00:15:17,103 that works with individuals 499 00:15:17,103 --> 00:15:20,040 who experience issues of harassment, 500 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,496 and those individuals are deeply involved 501 00:15:22,496 --> 00:15:23,637 in the communities, 502 00:15:23,637 --> 00:15:25,320 they work alongside community members, 503 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,106 and what our goals are over 504 00:15:27,106 --> 00:15:27,993 … right now… 505 00:15:27,993 --> 00:15:28,952 what we’re working to do, 506 00:15:28,952 --> 00:15:31,051 and what we’re anticipating doing in the future, 507 00:15:31,051 --> 00:15:32,673 is actually building resources 508 00:15:32,673 --> 00:15:34,103 for community leaders, 509 00:15:34,103 --> 00:15:35,037 so that they can identify 510 00:15:35,037 --> 00:15:35,991 some of these issues 511 00:15:35,991 --> 00:15:37,112 from the beginning. 512 00:15:37,112 --> 00:15:38,078 One of the ways that Wikipedia 513 00:15:38,078 --> 00:15:39,627 works is that community members 514 00:15:39,627 --> 00:15:42,653 actually identify issues often before 515 00:15:42,653 --> 00:15:43,705 they ever become issues that 516 00:15:43,705 --> 00:15:45,490 the Wikimedia Foundation engages with. 517 00:15:45,490 --> 00:15:46,642 A great example of this 518 00:15:46,642 --> 00:15:49,189 is actually the issue of open licensing. 519 00:15:49,189 --> 00:15:51,061 So everything on Wikipedia is openly licensed. 520 00:15:51,061 --> 00:15:53,132 We very rarely find for example 521 00:15:53,132 --> 00:15:54,280 violations of that 522 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,873 because community members are very good 523 00:15:55,873 --> 00:15:57,642 at identifying issues when they arise 524 00:15:57,642 --> 00:15:59,461 and addressing them right away. 525 00:15:59,461 --> 00:16:01,056 One of the things that we’d like to move 526 00:16:01,056 --> 00:16:03,117 towards is a community culture 527 00:16:03,117 --> 00:16:04,802 where there’s this same attention 528 00:16:04,802 --> 00:16:06,667 to toxic behavior and harassment 529 00:16:06,667 --> 00:16:07,756 in the communities, 530 00:16:07,756 --> 00:16:08,850 as there is, for example, 531 00:16:08,850 --> 00:16:10,541 to licensing violations. 532 00:16:10,541 --> 00:16:13,361 And so in addition to resourcing, 533 00:16:13,361 --> 00:16:14,917 I mentioned, the half a million dollars 534 00:16:14,917 --> 00:16:16,282 of resources that have gone into training, 535 00:16:16,282 --> 00:16:17,724 allies skills workshops, 536 00:16:17,724 --> 00:16:18,403 and the like, 537 00:16:18,403 --> 00:16:21,021 we’re working to support community groups 538 00:16:21,021 --> 00:16:22,838 who want to organize to become leaders 539 00:16:22,838 --> 00:16:25,747 in this issue and advocates internally 540 00:16:25,747 --> 00:16:28,122 on improving community culture. 541 00:16:29,772 --> 00:16:31,042 Right, let’s thank Katherine, 542 00:16:31,042 --> 00:16:31,486 oh, 543 00:16:31,486 --> 00:16:33,303 we have one more, you look very keen. 544 00:16:34,733 --> 00:16:35,985 Hello Stuart. 545 00:16:35,985 --> 00:16:36,874 Hello Katherine. 546 00:16:36,874 --> 00:16:38,108 It’s interesting what you said about 547 00:16:38,108 --> 00:16:40,227 Wikimedia being one of the only organizations 548 00:16:40,227 --> 00:16:41,692 that surveys its users 549 00:16:41,692 --> 00:16:42,406 about harassment and 550 00:16:42,406 --> 00:16:43,583 it occurred to me 551 00:16:43,583 --> 00:16:45,239 that Wikimedia’s had three women 552 00:16:45,239 --> 00:16:47,987 as executive directors consecutively. 553 00:16:47,987 --> 00:16:51,026 Now, is this something Twitter’s 554 00:16:51,026 --> 00:16:52,108 missing maybe 555 00:16:52,108 --> 00:16:53,173 or Face, because… 556 00:16:53,173 --> 00:16:54,565 missing having no people 557 00:16:54,565 --> 00:16:55,932 at the top with 558 00:16:55,932 --> 00:16:57,152 any direct experience of this, 559 00:16:57,152 --> 00:16:59,793 or do you think they could 560 00:16:59,793 --> 00:17:00,763 make changes despite this. 561 00:17:00,763 --> 00:17:03,415 Sorry, I…what was the question? 562 00:17:03,415 --> 00:17:07,500 Why do you think Twits doesn’t take it seriously? 563 00:17:07,500 --> 00:17:09,571 I think that, 564 00:17:09,571 --> 00:17:10,945 I mean, 565 00:17:10,945 --> 00:17:11,685 that was a bit of a leading question, 566 00:17:11,685 --> 00:17:12,850 but I actually think that this is an issue, 567 00:17:12,850 --> 00:17:13,717 right, 568 00:17:13,717 --> 00:17:15,623 that people who don’t have any direct experience 569 00:17:15,623 --> 00:17:17,099 of what it means to be vulnerable 570 00:17:17,099 --> 00:17:18,409 or to be marginalized 571 00:17:18,409 --> 00:17:20,003 have a very difficult time understanding 572 00:17:20,003 --> 00:17:21,102 what it means to be vulnerable 573 00:17:21,102 --> 00:17:22,403 or be marginalized 574 00:17:22,403 --> 00:17:23,532 and then actually investing 575 00:17:23,532 --> 00:17:24,654 in those issues. 576 00:17:24,654 --> 00:17:26,353 I recognize that by standing up here 577 00:17:26,353 --> 00:17:27,457 and telling these stories 578 00:17:27,457 --> 00:17:29,226 and even mentioning Gamergate on a stage, 579 00:17:29,226 --> 00:17:30,940 it increases my likelihood 580 00:17:30,940 --> 00:17:31,621 of being harassed, 581 00:17:31,621 --> 00:17:32,501 doxed, 582 00:17:32,501 --> 00:17:33,909 or otherwise targeted. 583 00:17:33,909 --> 00:17:35,194 That’s kind of a scary thing, 584 00:17:35,194 --> 00:17:36,503 but I think it’s a responsibility 585 00:17:36,503 --> 00:17:38,817 that I have within the Wikimedia Foundation 586 00:17:38,817 --> 00:17:39,909 and all of us as leaders 587 00:17:39,909 --> 00:17:41,757 within these communities have, 588 00:17:41,757 --> 00:17:43,314 is to be able to name this 589 00:17:43,314 --> 00:17:44,201 and address it and sort 590 00:17:44,201 --> 00:17:44,922 of confront it head on. 591 00:17:44,922 --> 00:17:45,882 At the same time, 592 00:17:45,882 --> 00:17:46,985 I would never demand 593 00:17:46,985 --> 00:17:48,222 that someone does that. 594 00:17:48,222 --> 00:17:49,604 I think it is a personal choice, 595 00:17:49,604 --> 00:17:50,983 but I feel it’s a responsibility. 596 00:17:50,983 --> 00:17:53,574 As to why Twitter or Facebook 597 00:17:53,574 --> 00:17:55,010 make bad decisions or 598 00:17:55,010 --> 00:17:56,446 don’t seem to have invested 599 00:17:56,446 --> 00:17:58,508 in these issues to the same extent 600 00:17:58,508 --> 00:18:04,065 ... 601 00:18:04,065 --> 00:18:05,488 good question. 602 00:18:07,448 --> 00:18:08,955 Should we leave it as a question then. 603 00:18:08,955 --> 00:18:09,399 Yeah. 604 00:18:09,399 --> 00:18:11,825 Okay, let’s thank Katherine. 605 00:18:11,825 --> 00:18:14,346 Thank you. 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