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1 00:00:01,333 --> 00:00:04,733 REPORTER FOR AXIOS, JONATHAN SWAN. 2 00:00:04,866 --> 00:00:06,896 JOINING US FROM DALLAS, REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN PETE 3 00:00:07,033 --> 00:00:17,663 SESSIONS OF TEXAS. WE HAVE BEEN GETTING REPORTS 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,300 THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM HOUSTON THAT ARE EVACUATING ARE 5 00:00:20,433 --> 00:00:23,033 EVENTUALLY GOING TO END UP IN DALLAS. 6 00:00:23,166 --> 00:00:25,596 TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. >> JOE, IN FACT, WE DO EXPECT 7 00:00:25,733 --> 00:00:28,763 THAT. WE HAVE OPENED UP OUR OPERATION 8 00:00:28,899 --> 00:00:30,769 CENTER IN DALLAS. AS YOU REMEMBER, DURING KATRINA 9 00:00:30,899 --> 00:00:40,499 WE TOOK IN SOME 30,000 PEOPLE. HE WE PLACED A GREAT WELCOME 10 00:00:40,633 --> 00:00:42,603 SIGN THEN, AND WE'RE GOING TO AGAIN. 11 00:00:42,733 --> 00:00:46,003 WE WILL HAVE BEDS. WE WILL HAVE PHYSICIANS. 12 00:00:46,133 --> 00:00:47,433 WE WILL HAVE EMERGENCY PHYSICIANS AND EMERGENCY 13 00:00:47,566 --> 00:00:50,096 OFFICIALS WHO ARE AVAILABLE. WE HAVE THE FAITH COMMUNITY 14 00:00:50,233 --> 00:00:53,933 THAT'S READY HERE. JOE, WHAT LIES AHEAD FOR 15 00:00:54,066 --> 00:00:58,966 EVERYONE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT AFTER THE TRAUMA OF WATER THAT 16 00:00:59,099 --> 00:01:02,529 EVERYBODY HAS THEIR TETANUS SHOTS, THAT THEY GET THEIR 17 00:01:02,666 --> 00:01:04,636 MEDICINE, THAT WE TAKE CARE OF CHILDREN. 18 00:01:04,766 --> 00:01:07,566 OBVIOUSLY, WHEN PEOPLE GET TOGETHER, WE THEN -- WHETHER WE 19 00:01:07,700 --> 00:01:10,030 LIKE IT OR NOT, WE HAVE DIARRHEA PROBLEMS. 20 00:01:10,166 --> 00:01:13,936 WE HAVE FOOD PROBLEMS. WE HAVE NEEDS OF PEOPLE. 21 00:01:14,066 --> 00:01:16,736 WE ARE PREPARED FOR THIS, I BELIEVE. 22 00:01:16,866 --> 00:01:20,836 THE PROBLEM IS THAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING OUT OF 23 00:01:20,966 --> 00:01:23,166 HOUSTON BECAUSE OF THE BANDS OF RAIN. 24 00:01:23,299 --> 00:01:27,729 JOE, BOTH OF YOU ARE AMAZINGLY KIND IN HOW YOU TALK ABOUT THE 25 00:01:27,866 --> 00:01:32,096 NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR HELP. AT CHURCH YESTERDAY WE TALKED 26 00:01:32,233 --> 00:01:35,803 EXTENSIVELY ABOUT BEING PREPARED TO HELP OUR FRIENDS FROM HOUSTON 27 00:01:35,933 --> 00:01:39,703 AND WE'RE READY TO DO THAT. >> WE HEARD FROM SEVERAL FRIENDS 28 00:01:39,833 --> 00:01:44,003 IN TEXAS THAT WE HAVE TALKING ABOUT HOW THE CHURCH IS AND I'M 29 00:01:44,133 --> 00:01:48,703 SURE OTHER RELIEF ORGANIZATIONS. I'M JUST TALKING TO PEOPLE THAT 30 00:01:48,833 --> 00:01:52,403 I KNOW FRIENDS FROM CHURCHES TALKING ABOUT GETTING IN CARS, 31 00:01:52,533 --> 00:01:55,963 KIND OF LIKE WE DID IN KATRINA. GETTING IN CARS AND DRIVING OVER 32 00:01:56,100 --> 00:02:00,300 AND EVERYBODY IN DALLAS DOING WHAT THEY CAN TO HELP THEIR 33 00:02:00,433 --> 00:02:01,633 FRIENDS. >> WE WILL BE ORGANIZED FOR 34 00:02:01,766 --> 00:02:03,396 THIS. JOE, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM 35 00:02:03,533 --> 00:02:08,463 DISCUSSION IN YOUR MEDIA ABOUT PREPARING LOUISIANA AND EAST 36 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,230 TEXAS. PEOPLE PREPARING THEMSELVES FOR 37 00:02:11,366 --> 00:02:38,596 WHAT WILL BE A FLOOD. THIS OBVIOUSLY. 38 00:02:38,733 --> 00:02:41,403 >> WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD FROM FEMA AND OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES? 39 00:02:41,533 --> 00:02:47,663 >> WELL, AS YOU KNOW, JOE, THE AREA OF CONCENTRATION ABOUT THIS 40 00:02:47,799 --> 00:02:52,469 TENS OF THOUSANDS OF HOMES, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF HOMES THAT FIND 41 00:02:52,599 --> 00:02:56,399 THEMSELVES NOT COMPLETELY FLOODED, BUT AT LEAST PROBABLY 42 00:02:56,533 --> 00:02:59,603 THE FIRST 15 INCHES IN A HOUSE. THAT MEANS THAT TENS OF 43 00:02:59,733 --> 00:03:09,703 THOUSANDS OF HOUSES, THE 44 00:03:09,833 --> 00:03:12,903 INFRASTRUCTURE. IT IS GOING TO MEET A MASS OF 45 00:03:13,066 --> 00:03:15,136 PEOPLE THAT WILL BE THERE. A FEDERAL EFFORT, YES, BUT 46 00:03:15,266 --> 00:03:16,336 MOSTLY NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR HELP. 47 00:03:16,466 --> 00:03:19,036 WHAT ARE WE GOING TO NEED? WE'RE GOING TO NEED PEOPLE TO 48 00:03:19,166 --> 00:03:22,296 STAY VIGILANT AND KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT THE 49 00:03:22,433 --> 00:03:26,433 AFTERMATH OF THIS IS WHERERE WE HAVE GOT TO CONTINUE TO STAY UP 50 00:03:26,566 --> 00:03:28,436 TO THIS FOR SIX TO TEN WEEKS. TWO POINTS. 51 00:03:28,566 --> 00:03:31,696 CONGRESS IS GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS APPROPRIATELY AS 52 00:03:31,833 --> 00:03:37,803 WE HAVE HAD TO DO OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS OF BIG FLOODS AND 53 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:42,870 ATTORNEY YOEZ. I WOULD OFFER SOME BIT OF ADVICE 54 00:03:42,966 --> 00:03:45,296 TO THE ADMINISTRATION. TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND TO THE 55 00:03:45,433 --> 00:03:49,833 UNITED STATES SENATE. THEY NEED TO FINISH 100% OF A 56 00:03:49,966 --> 00:03:53,236 CONFIRMATION. THEY NEED TO FINISH DOING THEIR 57 00:03:53,366 --> 00:03:55,266 WORK RATHER THAN THE GAMES THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON. 58 00:03:55,399 --> 00:03:58,999 WE NEED REAL LIVE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE AND 59 00:03:59,133 --> 00:04:05,503 RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENS FOR SEVERAL YEARS FROM THE 60 00:04:05,633 --> 00:04:06,963 ADMINISTRATION ACROSS THE BOARD, AND I ENCOURAGE THE 61 00:04:07,099 --> 00:04:08,469 ADMINISTRATION TO FINISH OFTEN ITS BUSINESS. 62 00:04:08,599 --> 00:04:12,269 I ENCOURAGE THE UNITED STATES SENATE TO END WHATEVER THEY'RE 63 00:04:12,399 --> 00:04:16,699 DOING. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE NEEDS 64 00:04:16,833 --> 00:04:26,563 OF THE NATION TO BE LOOKED AT. WE'RE GOING TO PLAYING HELP OUR 65 00:04:26,699 --> 00:04:29,799 NEIGHBOR. >> AND, JONATHAN SWAN, WE FOCUS 66 00:04:29,933 --> 00:04:34,033 SO MUCH ON THE STATE DEPARTMENT, BUT AFTER ONE OF THESE STORMS 67 00:04:34,166 --> 00:04:40,296 COMES THROUGH, FEMA IS NOT -- FEMA IS UNDERSTAFFED, IF SPA IS 68 00:04:40,433 --> 00:04:41,763 UNDERSTAFFED, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. 69 00:04:41,899 --> 00:04:43,369 >> YEAH, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. 70 00:04:43,466 --> 00:04:45,366 >> DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. >> ALL OF THESE PEOPLE, IF 71 00:04:45,499 --> 00:04:50,229 THEY'RE UNDER STAFFED, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT AN IMPACT 72 00:04:50,366 --> 00:04:54,066 THAT HAS ON TAKING CARE OF AFFECTED AREAS LIKE THIS. 73 00:04:54,199 --> 00:04:56,269 JONATHAN SWAN WITH AXIOS, HAS A QUESTION. 74 00:04:56,433 --> 00:04:58,963 JONATHAN. >> TO THAT POINT CONGRESSMAN, 75 00:04:59,099 --> 00:05:01,829 WITH APPROPRIATIONS, MAKING SURE THAT THE MONEY GETS WHERE IT 76 00:05:01,966 --> 00:05:04,496 NEEDS TO GO, CAN YOU TALK US THROUGH WHAT CONGRESS IS 77 00:05:04,633 --> 00:05:08,703 PLANNING TO DO AND ALSO HELP US UNDERSTAND YOUR OWN 78 00:05:08,833 --> 00:05:11,263 DELIBERATIONS WHEN THESE THINGS COME UP? 79 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,930 MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU VOTED FOR THE KATRINA AID PACKAGE 80 00:05:16,066 --> 00:05:19,296 AGAINST AT LEAST SOME ELEMENTS OF THE SANDY AID PACKAGE. 81 00:05:19,433 --> 00:05:21,533 CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW YOU MAKE DECISIONS LIKE THAT? 82 00:05:21,666 --> 00:05:25,666 >> YES, I CAN. THERE WERE ESSENTIALLY AN EARLY 83 00:05:25,799 --> 00:05:31,129 PACKAGE AND A LATE PACKAGE. ONE THAT WENT FROM ABOUT -- AS I 84 00:05:31,266 --> 00:05:36,196 RECALL, THAT $17 BILLION TO $60 BILLION, AND I FELT LIKE THAT -- 85 00:05:36,333 --> 00:05:41,033 AND I THINK MOST MEMBERS FROM TEXAS DID -- THAT WE NEEDED TO 86 00:05:41,166 --> 00:05:43,166 GET IMMEDIATE AID THERE. NOT THE FINAL PACKAGE. 87 00:05:43,299 --> 00:05:48,429 THE FINAL PACKAGE ENDED UP BEING ABOUT THREE MONTHS LATER, AND WE 88 00:05:48,566 --> 00:05:51,036 NEGOTIATED AND TRIED TO WORK WITH THAT. 89 00:05:51,166 --> 00:05:53,466 THIS IS GOING TO BE WHAT AN IMMEDIATE PACKAGE IS. 90 00:05:53,599 --> 00:05:59,599 NOT THE FINAL PACKAGE TO HELP PEOPLE IN THIS AREA. 91 00:05:59,733 --> 00:06:04,163 WE LOOKED AT THE LONG-TERM IMPACT THAT IS STILL PLAYING 92 00:06:04,300 --> 00:06:07,730 ITSELF OUT IN LOUISIANA. >> SO, PETE, DID YOU VOTE FOR 93 00:06:07,866 --> 00:06:10,896 THE FIRST PACKAGE, THE $17 BILLION PACKAGE? 94 00:06:11,033 --> 00:06:14,233 >> I -- JOE, I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO CHECK, BUT AS I 95 00:06:14,366 --> 00:06:17,696 RECALL, YES, BECAUSE I WAS AT THE CENTER OF THAT NEGOTIATION. 96 00:06:17,833 --> 00:06:21,363 >> RIGHT. >> TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE DID 97 00:06:21,499 --> 00:06:22,369 THAT. ONCE AGAIN, IT WENT FROM $17 98 00:06:22,499 --> 00:06:26,229 BILLION AND BY THE TIME IT CAME BACK SEVERAL MONTHS LATER, $60 99 00:06:26,366 --> 00:06:29,966 BILLION. I FELT LIKE WE COULD HAVE BEEN 100 00:06:30,099 --> 00:06:32,599 MORE CAREFUL IN THAT PROCESS. ONCE AGAIN, IT'S NOT REALLY A 101 00:06:32,733 --> 00:06:34,633 MATTER OF WHETHER YOU VOTE AGAINST IT OR NOT. 102 00:06:34,766 --> 00:06:38,836 IT'S A MATTER OF DID THE PACKAGE, WAS IT TAILORED TO THE 103 00:06:38,966 --> 00:06:41,996 NEED? WE WILL TAILOR THIS ONLY TO THE 104 00:06:42,100 --> 00:06:47,430 NEEDS, I HOPE, AND WE'LL BE A PART OF THAT TAILORING. 105 00:06:47,566 --> 00:06:50,096 ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS FAR LARGER. >> YOUR GOAL WILL BE WHEN THE 106 00:06:50,233 --> 00:06:53,503 PACKAGE COMES THROUGH, THAT IT WILL BE ACTUALLY ABOUT AID 107 00:06:53,633 --> 00:06:55,503 ACTUALLY FOR THE PEOPLE OF HOUSTON AND THE SURROUNDING 108 00:06:55,633 --> 00:06:58,663 AREAS IN TEXAS. I MEAN, ALL OF US KNOW THAT 109 00:06:58,799 --> 00:07:01,069 USUALLY WHEN THESE AID BILLS COME UP, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD BE 110 00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:06,669 LUCKY NOT TO GET FIVE OFF RAMPS AND, YOU KNOW, IN KANSAS. 111 00:07:06,799 --> 00:07:09,099 >> YOU UNDERSTAND THIS, JOE, BECAUSE YOU SERVED AND 112 00:07:09,199 --> 00:07:13,229 UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS -- TO 113 00:07:13,366 --> 00:07:15,336 ANSWER JONATHAN CORRECTLY, WE ARE GOING TO -- THE WEEK WE GET 114 00:07:15,466 --> 00:07:17,436 BACK, WHICH IS NOT THIS WEEK. IT IS NEXT WEEK. 115 00:07:17,566 --> 00:07:20,936 WE'RE GOING TO FINISH OFF OUR AID PACKAGES. 116 00:07:21,066 --> 00:07:25,096 IT IS FAR TOO EARLY FOR US TO ACTUALLY TO HAVE EXCEPT FOR AN 117 00:07:25,233 --> 00:07:28,403 INITIAL VIEWPOINT THE FINAL PACKAGE ON THIS. 118 00:07:28,533 --> 00:07:32,503 IT MAY TAKE INTO DECEMBER FOR TEXAS TO REALLY GET A HANDLE 119 00:07:32,633 --> 00:07:35,663 AROUND WHAT ITS NEEDS ARE. WE'LL ADDRESS THAT. 120 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,630 I BELIEVE PEOPLE WILL DEAL FAIRLY WITH EACH OTHER. 121 00:07:37,766 --> 00:07:41,636 I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT. >> SO CONGRESSMAN, THE PACKAGE, 122 00:07:41,766 --> 00:07:44,866 WHENEVER IT'S DONE, WHETHER IT'S DONE IN TWO WEEKS OR IN DECEMBER 123 00:07:44,999 --> 00:07:49,699 AS YOU INDICATED, IT'S GOING TO BE OF IMMENSE COST TO TAXPAYERS 124 00:07:49,866 --> 00:07:53,696 TO CARRY THIS BURDEN AND HELP THE PEOPLE OF HOUSTON IN GREATER 125 00:07:53,833 --> 00:07:56,803 TEXAS. YOU HAVE HAD TIPS THAT YOU JUST 126 00:07:56,933 --> 00:07:59,963 GAVE US FOR STAFFING, OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THAT ARE CRITICAL 127 00:08:00,099 --> 00:08:02,599 TO THIS EFFORT. DO YOU HAVE ANY TIPS THIS 128 00:08:02,733 --> 00:08:06,063 MORNING FOR THE FREEDOM CAUCUS WHO SEEM TO RESENT SPENDING EVEN 129 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:11,170 A PENNY OF PUBLIC MONEY? >> YES, AND I WILL TELL YOU, WE 130 00:08:11,300 --> 00:08:15,630 HAVE WATCHED OUR COLLEAGUES OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AS THEY HAD 131 00:08:15,766 --> 00:08:17,896 BEEN IMPACTED TO COME TO A SENSE OF REALITY. 132 00:08:18,033 --> 00:08:24,333 HERE'S WHAT I WOULD SAY TO YOU. THE PACKAGE NEEDS TO REPRESENT 133 00:08:24,466 --> 00:08:29,866 THE REAL NEED, AND IN TEXAS THIS -- I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO 134 00:08:29,999 --> 00:08:33,929 UNDERSTAND HOW LARGE IT IS. THIS IS MAYBE TWICE AS LARGE AS 135 00:08:34,066 --> 00:08:38,236 THE LARGEST WE'VE EVER HAD, AND I THINK THAT WAS BACK TO 1982. 136 00:08:38,366 --> 00:08:42,596 WHAT I WOULD SAY TO YOU IS THAT MY COLLEAGUES THAT ARE IN THE 137 00:08:42,733 --> 00:08:47,333 FREEDOM CAUCUS ARE VERY DEAR FRIENDS OF MINE AND OF A NUMBER 138 00:08:47,433 --> 00:08:48,563 OF PEOPLE WHO RECOGNIZE THE NEED. 139 00:08:48,699 --> 00:08:54,069 IF THE PACKAGE IS IN ANY WAY BLOATED, IT WILL HAVE PROBLEMS. 140 00:08:54,199 --> 00:08:59,799 IF IT IS TAILORED TO FIT THE NEED, THEN WE CAN SUBSTANTIATE, 141 00:08:59,933 --> 00:09:01,233 MY COLLEAGUES AND THE FREEDOM CAUCUS WILL BE THERE. 142 00:09:01,366 --> 00:09:06,996 >> YOU KNOW, THAT'S A THING, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU NEVER KNOW IN 143 00:09:07,133 --> 00:09:10,763 THE PROCESS WHEN IT GOES OFF THE RAILS. 144 00:09:10,899 --> 00:09:12,629 FIRST OF ALL, OUR HOPES AND PRAYERS ARE WITH THE GOOD PEOPLE 145 00:09:12,766 --> 00:09:16,296 OF TEXAS THAT THEY GET THROUGH THIS, AND ALSO, WOULD LOVE TO 146 00:09:16,433 --> 00:09:20,903 HAVE YOU BACK, PETE, JUST TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROCESS AND MAKE 147 00:09:21,033 --> 00:09:24,433 SURE THAT ACTUALLY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE SPENDING TAX MONEY 148 00:09:24,566 --> 00:09:27,766 ON HELPING THE PEOPLE OF TEXAS AND NOT SOME SIDE PROJECTS 149 00:09:27,899 --> 00:09:32,129 THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO CRAM IN TO OMNIBUS BILLS FOR TEN Y