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Mr. Carney:
I do have one quick
announcement before

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I take your questions.

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The President just concluded a
call with Prime Minister Rajoy

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of Spain.

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They discussed economic
conditions in the eurozone.

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And we will have a
further readout later

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today of that call.

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With that, I'll go
to your questions.

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Associated Press.

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The Press:
Thank you.

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A couple things on Syria.

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I'm wondering if the U.S.
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confirm the defections of the
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government officials there.

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And also, if you could give me
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impact you think these
defections are having on the

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Syrian government, because
they obviously get a lot of

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attention and it's clear that
there is some instability

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within the regime, but that
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translate into a
lessening of the violence.

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Mr. Carney:
Well, we have no reason to
doubt the reports about the

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defection of the prime
minister or other members

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of the government.

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That the titular head of the
Syrian government has rejected

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the ongoing slaughter being
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direction only reinforces that
the Assad regime is crumbling

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from within and that the
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Assad's days are numbered.

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To go to your question about
the implications, as we've

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said repeatedly as we've
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defections, this is a sign
that Assad's grip on power

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is loosening.

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If he cannot maintain cohesion
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it reflects on his inability
to maintain any following

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among the Syrian people that
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point of a gun.

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The momentum is with the
opposition and with the

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Syrian people.

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It's clear that these
defections are reaching the

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highest levels of the Syrian
government and Assad cannot

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restore his control over the
country because the Syrian

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people will not allow it.

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The quickest way to end the
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Syrian people is for Assad
to step aside to enable a

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peaceful political transition
to a government that is

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responsive to the aspirations
of the Syrian people.

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The Press:
What's the latest U.S.
intelligence on where

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Assad is right now?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, you know I wouldn't talk
about issues of intelligence.

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But we monitor the situation
in Syria very closely.

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I have no specific information
to give you about Assad.

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I can simply say that what we
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these latest reports, is
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his leadership and I think
increasing desperation in

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his efforts to wage war
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The Press:
On another topic, we had
another horrific shooting,

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this one in Wisconsin.

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And after the Aurora shooting,
the President said in his

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speech to the Urban League
that he would talk to anybody,

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any party, about issues of
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I'm wondering if there are any
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something about that, now that
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a couple of weeks here.

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Mr. Carney:
Well, let me say at the top
that the President and the

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First Lady, as was noted
yesterday, were deeply

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saddened to learn of this
tragic shooting that took

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so many lives.

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The President made clear
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provide whatever support is
necessary to the officials

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responding to this event
and to the investigation,

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which the FBI, as you
know, is involved in.

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The President also made clear
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how much our country has been
enriched by Sikhs, who are a

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part of our broader
American family.

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As you know, the President
was notified shortly before

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1:00 p.m. by his
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John Brennan, yesterday.

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Later in the afternoon, the
President convened a call with

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FBI Director Bob Mueller,
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and Homeland Security Advisor
Brennan to receive an update.

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Following that briefing, the
President called the Governor

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of Wisconsin, Scott Walker,
Oak Creek Mayor Steve

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Scaffidi, and Trustee of the
Sikh Temple Charanjeet Singh

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to express his condolences for
the lives lost and his concern

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for those who were injured.

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On the broader issue that you
mentioned, I think what the

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President said is
still the case.

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He believes that we have a
broader issue with violence

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in America that needs to be
addressed from a variety of

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angles, including efforts
that this administration has

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undertaken to work with local
communities to try to get

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children out of gangs, to get
kids out of gangs, to get kids

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back in school, working with
local law enforcement in their

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efforts to fight crime.

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Incidents like this are
horrific, and our hearts go

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out to the victims and their
families, and to the Sikh

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community in Wisconsin.

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But we cannot lose sight
of the fact that there is

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violence all the time in
America and that we need

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to take concerted
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The Press:
But no specific plans --

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Mr. Carney:
I have nothing
new to announce.

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I mean, he did very recently
give those remarks at the

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Urban League and he'll
continue to instruct his

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administration to take action
towards common-sense measures

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that protect the Second
Amendment rights of

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law-abiding citizens, but make
it harder and harder for those

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who should not have
weapons under existing

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law to obtain them.

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Some progress has been made
on those instructions with

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regards to our
background check system.

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And the President will
continue to press that,

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as well as pressing the
variety of ways that this

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administration is assisting
local communities in their

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efforts to combat violence.

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The Press:
Can I just follow?

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The Press:
Has the President, or will
the President be speaking

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to Indian Prime Minister Singh
about the shooting at the Sikh

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temple in Wisconsin?

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And what, if any, assurances
can the President or federal

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law enforcement authorities
give to the Sikh community

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in America that they
will be protected from

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this kind of atrocity?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, on the first part of
the question, I have no other

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foreign leader calls to read
out to you at this time.

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The President and the First
Lady yesterday and again,

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through me today, expressed
their deep condolences to

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the families of the victims
and to the community that

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was affected.

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And the President noted
yesterday, as I am today,

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the important contribution that
Sikhs have made and continue

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to make to the broader
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And we need to remember that.

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The specifics of this
particular incident are under

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investigation, so questions
that go to motive, to the

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perpetrator, those kinds of
things, I would have to refer

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to the FBI, which has a role
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to local law enforcement.

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The Press:
Can you talk about any special
security measures that might --

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Mr. Carney:
Well, again, I think that
goes to motive about -- and

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I wouldn't want to
speculate at this time.

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And I think that I would
refer you to the FBI and

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to local law enforcement.

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The Press:
Jay, can I follow up?

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The Press:
I'll get to you,
but let me go here.

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The Press:
Does the President share
Minority Leader Pelosi's

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view that even if Democrats
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still wouldn't be the
votes for significant

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gun legislation?

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And is that why the White
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or tougher legislation
more strongly?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I think the President
has made his views plain on

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this, which is that he is for
common-sense measures that

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protect Second Amendment
rights -- very important

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Second Amendment rights that
American citizens have, but

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that make it harder and harder
for those who should not have

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weapons under existing
law from obtaining them.

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There is no question that
there has been a reluctance

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to act in Congress
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Whether that will continue to
be the case in the future is

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anyone's prediction.

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The President is focused on
the progress we can make along

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the lines I just described.

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So again, his positions on
various issues I think we've

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talked about.

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He believes that we can take
action within the existing

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environment that moves the
ball forward in terms of

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enforcement, that enhances
background checks, that makes

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it harder for those who
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existing law -- makes it
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weapons, but continues to
ensure that Second Amendment

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rights are protected.

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The Press:
But does anything -- either
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that there need to be new
gun control legislation?

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Mr. Carney:
I think the President
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Urban League, John.

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And his view is, as I've
said, that we need to take

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common-sense measures that
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rights and make it harder
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weapons under existing law
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I think he made clear, too, in
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violence in America is a
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just the issue of gun laws.

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And he talked very clearly
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violence in America, that even
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that crime has gone down
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but there is still
too much violence.

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And incidents like the ones
you mentioned are horrific,

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and our hearts go out to the
victims of such appalling acts

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of violence, but we should not
forget that there are victims

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of violence every day in
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address that problem in a
concerted way that deals with

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education and summer jobs and
other ways to help address the

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violence problem in America.

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The Press:
On another front, Leader
Reid-Governor Romney story

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continues to percolate.

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Does the President think that
it's appropriate for Leader

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Reid to be making these, some
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charges on the Senate floor?

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And has the White House
spoken to him about it?

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Mr. Carney:
I'm not aware of the White
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Reid about this issue.

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I would simply say that you
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Reid well, and he speaks
for himself, and he has

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addressed this issue.

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I think that the broader
question, as it relates

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to the President's view, is that
he thinks the tradition that has

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been in place since 1968
of candidates for President

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releasing multiple years
of their tax returns is an

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important one.

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It's not always every
candidate's favorite part

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of the process, but it's a
tradition that's important.

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It's valuable to the American
people as they decide who

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should be President.

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So that's why the President
has put forward his financial

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information, his tax returns
when he was a candidate, and

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believes that that's
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The Press:
I don't recall him pushing
John McCain to release more

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than two years of his tax
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Mr. Carney:
Well, I think the issue of
Senator McCain -- but I would

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refer you to, obviously, his
office for prior runs where he

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had released information --
the question here is not --

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again, this is a question for
the -- and I would refer you

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to our campaign --
but it's a question

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for Governor Romney, right?

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He, as recently as last week,
I think on ABC, said that he

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would be happy to check if
he paid a lower effective tax

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rate in previous years than
the 13.9 percent that he paid

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in the year related to the tax
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And I think the only -- the
reason why this is an issue

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at a policy level is the
President believes very

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strongly -- and this is
central to the debate we're

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having in this country -- that
we need to have greater tax

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fairness and that we need to
make sure that we're passing

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laws that protect the middle
class, that specifically give

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the middle class a tax cut
extension, and that we're not

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passing laws that give tax
breaks to millionaires and

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billionaires who have already
enjoyed substantial tax breaks

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in the past, and who enjoy
legal loopholes like the

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carried interest law that
allow a Warren Buffett or a

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hedge fund manager or other
very affluent Americans to pay

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taxes at a much lower rate
than a factory worker at a

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plant -- a GM plant in
Michigan or Ohio, or a

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hardworking member of the
White House press corps.

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It's just about making our tax
code more fair and making our

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tax code more helpful to the
middle class, which is the

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backbone of our country and
backbone of economic security

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and economic growth
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The Press:
But, Jay, it's been charged --

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Mr. Carney:
Let me -- I promised
him a question.

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Tejinder, please go ahead.

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The Press:
First of all, I'd like to
thank the President and First

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Lady for their kind
words to the community.

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But the way you said it,
that there is violence on

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the streets of U.S. every
day -- this is a particular

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peace-loving community
who has been targeted,

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and they have been
targeted since 9/11.

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Where is the education
of the general public?

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It has been going on for
11 years, culminating in

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what happened.

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And is the President going
to travel to that community,

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in that area, soon?

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And following up on that
question, Prime Minister

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Singh has said that -- ensure
conditions that such violent

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acts are not repeated in
the future -- what are we

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going to do?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, let me take your
question apart a little bit.

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I can't address the motivation
behind the specific incident

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that happened
just 24 hours ago.

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It is certainly the case that
Sikhs have been targeted in

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America in the past, since
9/11, because they have been

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believed to be Muslims, and
that has been a tragic event

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-- I mean, a violent --
whether it's against Sikhs

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or Muslims, this is clearly
horrible and unacceptable.

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But I can't address the
motivation behind yesterday's

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attack because it's under
investigation by the FBI

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and by local law enforcement.

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As for the President's
schedule, I don't have any

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announcements to make
about upcoming travel.

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If I do, I will certainly make
everyone aware of that travel.

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But I just want to be
clear and to reiterate, the

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President feels very strongly
that we need to remember on a

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day like today the profound
contributions that the Sikh

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community has made
in this country.

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And as you note, this is a
very peaceful community, and

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it is a horrific thing when
this kind of event takes place

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in and around a house
of worship of any kind.

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And our hearts go out to the
victims and to their families.

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Ed.

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The Press:
I just want to follow on taxes
because the charge is not just

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that maybe Mitt Romney paid
less than a factory worker or

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whoever, but it's a
bit more vicious than

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that from Harry Reid.

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He's saying that he didn't pay
-- he has an anonymous source

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telling him that he paid
no taxes for something

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like 10 years.

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So the President has talked a
lot about changing the tone in

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this town.

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Why hasn't he picked up the
phone and asked Harry Reid

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to stop making a
charge like that?

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Mr. Carney:
Again, I think the idea that
people tell Harry Reid what

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to do is inconsistent with
what everyone here understands

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to be --

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The Press:
But you can express your
opinion that maybe that's

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below the belt.

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Mr. Carney:
Look, I think that the
President -- you hear

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the President going out and
talking about the important

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issues facing the
American people every day.

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And he talks about those
issues in terms that reflect

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the importance of economic
matters like our tax code and

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how our tax code, for example,
currently benefits companies

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that ship jobs overseas.

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He would change that so
that it ceases encouraging

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investment overseas and
outsourcing of jobs, and

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encourages insourcing
of investment and jobs.

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He talks about that in terms
of, as I was saying earlier,

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a tax code that allows in
totally legal fashion hedge

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fund managers to pay an
effective tax rate that's

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significantly lower than most
Americans -- or many Americans

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-- and that that is not
reflective of a system that

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we need to have in place that
helps the American middle

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class grow, helps
enhance its security.

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The Press:
Right, but that's
not the charge.

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The charge is that Mitt Romney
didn't pay taxes for 10 years.

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Does the White House
believe that allegation?

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Mr. Carney:
Again, I would refer you to
Senator Reid for -- I can't --

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only Senator Reid knows
his source, which he has

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discussed, and I would
refer you to that.

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I think it is a fair point
to make that this is an issue

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that was not originated during
the general election campaign,

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did not start with the
President's campaign or with

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Senator Reid, it started in
the Republican primary when

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Governor Romney's opponents
brought up this issue and the

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fact that Governor Romney's
father began a tradition in

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1968 of major candidates for
President releasing multiple

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years of their tax returns,
and that that is a tradition

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that has been adhered to by
major candidates for President

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ever since.

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The Press:
Nancy Pelosi today said,
"Harry Reid made a statement

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that is true.

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Somebody told him.

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It is a fact."

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Do you agree with
that rationale?

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Mr. Carney:
I haven't seen that statement.

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But again, I would refer
you to Nancy Pelosi and

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Harry Reid --

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The Press:
But if someone just made an
allegation that he didn't pay

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taxes for 10 years,
that's just a fact?

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Mr. Carney:
I think the President is
focused on -- and you hear

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him talk about this every day
-- issues that matter to the

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American people that have to
do with both tax fairness, but

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also actions that we need to
be taking to grow the economy,

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that we need to be taking to
increase job creation here in

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the United States, that we
need to take in order to bring

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jobs back from overseas and
have companies invest here in

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the United States.

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Those are the issues the
President is talking about.

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And you'll continue to hear
him talk about those issues

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tonight and every day when
he's out there, making the

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case to the American
people about his agenda.

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Go ahead, John.

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The Press:
And one more on Harry Reid.

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It's a simple question: Does
the President think that this

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allegation coming from Harry
Reid, without any evidence,

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made on the Senate floor,
is that below the belt?

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Does that cross the line?

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Mr. Carney:
Again, I have not -- the
President has not expressed

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an opinion to me on this.

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I can tell you that the
President is focused on

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the issues that I've
just talked about.

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And again, he believes in
the tradition of releasing

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tax returns.

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I mean, this is an issue that
was raised by contenders for

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President in a
Republican primary.

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And just on your air a number
of days ago, former Governor

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Romney said that he would go
back and look at the effective

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tax rate he paid in previous
years, and then his campaign

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said, oh, no, no,
we won't do that.

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And this is -- the issue here
is one of transparency and

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again, as the President
sees it with regards to his

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candidacy, one that is an
important tradition, that

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allows the American
people to get a sense

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of a candidate's background.

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Again, I don't have a -- you
can talk to Senator Reid.

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He, I'm sure, will address
this issue if you ask him.

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He certainly
speaks for himself.

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The President is focused on
the issues that matter most

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to the American people.

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And we now have a situation
where Congress has left town

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for a number of weeks, where
instead of passing legislation

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that would extend a tax cut
for 98 percent of the American

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people, the House left
town refusing to do that.

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Look at the overlap between
the measure the Senate passed

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and the measure
the House passed.

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There's only 2 percent
disagreement with -- and

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some of the other tax issues
that the President put on the

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table and are part of
the Senate version.

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Why can't we -- if Washington
were to function effectively,

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if Republicans were to simply
accept the principle that we

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should act on behalf of
98 percent of the American

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people, we could have taken
care of the matter of a

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middle-class tax cut before
they went on recess, and that

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security would be in place
for 98 percent of the American

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people -- 114 million
Americans, taxpaying Americans

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-- before the fall
campaign even began.

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Instead, we didn't
get action on that.

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And that's the kind of
craziness we have in

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Washington now, where even
where we agree completely on

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an issue, there's a refusal to
say, okay, let's get it done.

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The Press:
I was just asking if it was
inappropriate for Harry Reid

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to go out and make an --

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Mr. Carney:
I think I just answered this
question three or four times.

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And I think I would ask your
question of Senator Reid.

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The President you've heard on
numerous occasions talk about

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the issues that he believes
are central in the minds of

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the American people, as they
make up their minds about the

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candidates for office in
the presidential election.

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The Press:
Well, let me ask you
about something else.

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David Plouffe, it's been
reported today, gave a speech

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in Nigeria to this -- paid
for by a company that had some

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business dealings with Iran.

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The RNC is out condemning
this, accusing the White House

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of hypocrisy, for profiting
handsomely by speaking to a

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company doing business with
a radical, anti-government

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nation of Iran --
anti-American government

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of Iran.

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Is the White House concerned
about Mr. Plouffe getting

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$100,000 for a speech like
this so close before he came

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to work here again?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, David Plouffe was
invited to speak in Africa by

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an affiliate company of the
company you mentioned in the

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spring of 2010.

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He gave two speeches on
mobile technology and digital

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communications, and had no
separate meetings with the

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company's leadership.

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Even the most zealous watchdog
group on this issue did not

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start their campaign on the
host company's holding company

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until years later.

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Criticism of Mr. Plouffe now
for issues and controversies

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that developed much later
are simply misplaced.

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And I think you noted where
the criticism is coming from

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-- the RNC.

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I certainly -- I don't recall
similar criticism from the RNC

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when senior members
of the George W. Bush

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administration, prior to
taking office, had given paid

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speeches to companies that, in
the case of Credit Suisse and

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UVS, were cited for violations
regarding financing in Iran.

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And I think that this is
clearly politics, which I

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think is reflected by the
citation in your question.

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The Press:
But President Obama came
into office talking about

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a higher standard.

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I mean, is there any concern
about this kind of -- I mean,

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$100,000 in Nigeria to
a South African company.

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I mean, it was
widely reported.

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I mean, it had been reported
even in The New York Times

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that they had business
dealings with Iran.

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I mean, is there any
concern at all about this?

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Is this --

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Mr. Carney:
I'm not sure I understand
the nature of your question.

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This was prior to David
Plouffe coming to office --

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here to work in
the White House.

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It was before the watchdog
group had even made an issue

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of this particular
holding company.

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And again, this is political
criticism after the fact

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that's clearly designed to try
to score some points when this

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was several years ago, prior
to this dynamic we have now

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with regards to sanctions
and companies like this.

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And I would point out that the
same source of criticism was I

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believe silent when it
involved senior administration

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officials in the
previous administration.

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Dan.

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The Press:
Just to follow on an earlier
question, putting aside what

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may have motivated the
shooting over the weekend,

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given the fact that you
yourself admitted that this

475
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is a community that has been
targeted in the past, is it

476
00:25:30,467 --> 00:25:35,100
time for the administration
to step up with some kind of

477
00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:40,265
educational campaign,
something to help

478
00:25:40,266 --> 00:25:41,166
this community?

479
00:25:41,166 --> 00:25:44,133
Because there is a lot of
concern among that community,

480
00:25:44,133 --> 00:25:46,767
the Sikhs, that they've been
unfairly targeted and will

481
00:25:46,767 --> 00:25:48,533
continue to be
targeted in the future.

482
00:25:48,533 --> 00:25:50,899
So is there anything that
the administration should

483
00:25:50,900 --> 00:25:52,100
be doing?

484
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:55,533
Mr. Carney:
Well, Dan, I appreciate the
question, but I think it's

485
00:25:55,533 --> 00:25:57,065
safe to say that you
wouldn't have asked me

486
00:25:57,066 --> 00:25:58,367
this question on Friday.

487
00:25:58,367 --> 00:26:01,466
And I think that reflects that
it relates specifically to

488
00:26:01,467 --> 00:26:02,500
this incident.

489
00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:09,000
And because I can't address or
speculate about motivation in

490
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,066
this incident because it's
under investigation, I can't

491
00:26:12,066 --> 00:26:14,333
-- I think it would be
inappropriate for me to

492
00:26:14,333 --> 00:26:21,300
talk more broadly about that
issue because you would be

493
00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:24,533
understandably making
assumptions about our

494
00:26:24,533 --> 00:26:27,367
conclusions about this
specific incident that we

495
00:26:27,367 --> 00:26:29,600
can't make when the FBI and
the local law enforcement are

496
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:30,567
still investigating.

497
00:26:30,567 --> 00:26:32,100
And it's only been 24 hours.

498
00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:34,000
I think it's important
to note that.

499
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,433
The Press:
Can I get your reaction
to this new ad that Mayor

500
00:26:37,433 --> 00:26:40,934
Bloomberg and other mayors
have put out asking for the

501
00:26:40,934 --> 00:26:45,133
President and Mitt Romney to
come up with a plan to combat

502
00:26:45,133 --> 00:26:46,300
gun violence?

503
00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:47,100
Have you seen this ad?

504
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:48,600
Any reaction to it?

505
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:49,899
Mr. Carney:
I haven't.

506
00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:54,834
I would simply point you to
what I said earlier in answer

507
00:26:54,834 --> 00:26:56,967
to other questions about the
President's views on this,

508
00:26:56,967 --> 00:27:00,834
which he expressed in New
Orleans at the Urban League,

509
00:27:00,834 --> 00:27:04,800
and the broader issue of
violence in America that needs

510
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,533
to be addressed, and addressed
from a variety of angles,

511
00:27:08,533 --> 00:27:13,699
because it's an issue that
transcends these incidents

512
00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:18,166
of horrific violence that we
see periodically, and it's an

513
00:27:18,166 --> 00:27:20,767
issue that transcends
legislation passed by

514
00:27:20,767 --> 00:27:24,066
Congress with
regards to firearms.

515
00:27:24,066 --> 00:27:29,367
And we need to go after
it on every front.

516
00:27:29,367 --> 00:27:32,265
And that's why the President
has instructed his Justice

517
00:27:32,266 --> 00:27:37,633
Department to make progress
in enforcing existing law and

518
00:27:37,633 --> 00:27:40,834
enhancing background checks to
make it harder for those who

519
00:27:40,834 --> 00:27:43,166
should not have weapons
under existing law from

520
00:27:43,166 --> 00:27:44,166
obtaining them.

521
00:27:44,166 --> 00:27:47,433
It's why he has, since he
took office, instructed his

522
00:27:47,433 --> 00:27:51,600
administration to work with
local communities in combating

523
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,766
violence from a variety
of different approaches.

524
00:27:55,767 --> 00:28:01,900
The Press:
I have one more on Syria,
one final thing on Syria.

525
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:05,533
You have talked now for
months that Assad's days are

526
00:28:05,533 --> 00:28:09,399
numbered, yet he continues
to be in power and people

527
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,767
continue to get -- innocent
people continue to get killed.

528
00:28:12,767 --> 00:28:16,700
Is there anything that can
speed this process along?

529
00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:21,033
Because this sort of slow-drip
approach is costing a lot of

530
00:28:21,033 --> 00:28:23,533
innocent people their lives.

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00:28:23,533 --> 00:28:27,667
Mr. Carney:
Well, the responsibility for
the appalling violence against

532
00:28:27,667 --> 00:28:32,100
civilians in Syria lies
with President Assad.

533
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:41,667
He has systematically attacked
his own people, attacked

534
00:28:41,667 --> 00:28:47,533
civilian population centers,
and periodically through this

535
00:28:47,533 --> 00:28:53,132
period he has made promises
about ceasing the violence,

536
00:28:53,133 --> 00:28:55,667
promises to abide by the
principles of the Kofi Annan

537
00:28:55,667 --> 00:28:58,600
plan and has refused
-- or has not lived up

538
00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,600
to those promises.

539
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,399
The responsibility
is with Assad.

540
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,333
And the quickest way to end
the violence and to bring

541
00:29:07,333 --> 00:29:11,767
about the transition that the
Syrian people so deserve and

542
00:29:11,767 --> 00:29:14,700
desire is for Assad
to step aside.

543
00:29:14,700 --> 00:29:18,233
Now, we have worked in a
variety of different ways

544
00:29:18,233 --> 00:29:23,867
to help bring about that
eventuality -- not just

545
00:29:23,867 --> 00:29:25,934
through the United Nations,
where our efforts and the

546
00:29:25,934 --> 00:29:29,834
efforts of the vast majority
of the countries with an

547
00:29:29,834 --> 00:29:33,133
interest in this have been
thwarted by the refusal to go

548
00:29:33,133 --> 00:29:37,066
along with meaningful measures
at the Security Council by

549
00:29:37,066 --> 00:29:40,567
Russia and China, but our
efforts are not limited to

550
00:29:40,567 --> 00:29:42,700
the United Nations Security
Council or the United Nations.

551
00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:45,133
They include working with
the "Friends of Syria."

552
00:29:45,133 --> 00:29:47,300
They include working with
the Arab League, and working

553
00:29:47,300 --> 00:29:49,367
directly with the opposition.

554
00:29:49,367 --> 00:29:52,600
And we will
continue to do that.

555
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,100
And we will -- I think your
point is well taken, but it is

556
00:29:56,100 --> 00:30:00,699
also true, as we discussed at
the top of the briefing, that

557
00:30:00,700 --> 00:30:06,767
Assad's grip on power is
clearly loosening, that he

558
00:30:06,767 --> 00:30:10,700
seems incapable of preventing
senior members of his

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00:30:10,700 --> 00:30:13,834
government and his
military from defecting.

560
00:30:13,834 --> 00:30:22,633
And I think that indicates
a situation where the

561
00:30:22,633 --> 00:30:27,233
eventuality of Assad leaving
power comes closer and closer.

562
00:30:27,233 --> 00:30:29,500
It's impossible to predict
when that will happen, but

563
00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:34,467
Syria's future must not,
and will not, include Bashar

564
00:30:34,467 --> 00:30:37,700
al-Assad because the Syrian
people simply won't stand for

565
00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:39,967
it and they absolutely
do not deserve it.

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00:30:39,967 --> 00:30:40,967
The Press:
May I follow up on that?

567
00:30:40,967 --> 00:30:42,100
Mr. Carney:
Sure.

568
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:47,766
The Press:
The current situation that's
so deteriorating could have a

569
00:30:47,767 --> 00:30:50,533
negative effect on the
stability of the state

570
00:30:50,533 --> 00:30:51,233
of Israel.

571
00:30:51,233 --> 00:30:52,734
Has the President been in
touch with Prime Minister

572
00:30:52,734 --> 00:30:54,699
Netanyahu over
the last few days?

573
00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:58,700
Mr. Carney:
I have no other foreign leader
communications to read out to

574
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:00,934
you at this time.

575
00:31:00,934 --> 00:31:03,700
The Press:
Jay, I want to ask you about
Friday's mixed jobs report.

576
00:31:03,700 --> 00:31:07,033
On the one hand, the economy
had 163,000 jobs; on the other

577
00:31:07,033 --> 00:31:10,300
hand, the unemployment rate
ticked up to 8.3 percent.

578
00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:13,200
To what extent does that
8.3 percent undermine the

579
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,900
President's argument now, just
three months until election

580
00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:18,667
day, that he is moving
the economy in the right

581
00:31:18,667 --> 00:31:20,667
direction, albeit
not quickly enough?

582
00:31:20,667 --> 00:31:22,399
Mr. Carney:
Well, the President makes
clear every time he talks

583
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,333
about this issue that we
are not where we need to be.

584
00:31:25,333 --> 00:31:28,533
That is why he has urged
Congress again and again to

585
00:31:28,533 --> 00:31:31,934
pass measures that independent
economists have judged would

586
00:31:31,934 --> 00:31:35,734
add a million-plus
jobs right now.

587
00:31:35,734 --> 00:31:38,199
But Republicans in
Congress have refused.

588
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,200
That's why he has urged
Congress to give economic

589
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,834
security to the middle class,
to 98 percent of taxpaying

590
00:31:43,834 --> 00:31:48,266
Americans, by extending tax
cuts for the middle class now,

591
00:31:48,266 --> 00:31:50,033
because we all agree on it.

592
00:31:50,033 --> 00:31:51,966
We all agree on extending
those tax cuts, Republicans

593
00:31:51,967 --> 00:31:53,333
and Democrats alike.

594
00:31:53,333 --> 00:31:57,734
But Republicans in Congress
have refused, insisting that

595
00:31:57,734 --> 00:32:01,399
millionaires and billionaires,
the top 2 percent of wage

596
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,266
earners in this country
-- that the tax cuts of

597
00:32:05,266 --> 00:32:08,367
middle-class Americans should
be held hostage to tax breaks

598
00:32:08,367 --> 00:32:10,767
for the wealthiest 2 percent.

599
00:32:10,767 --> 00:32:14,900
The President believes that
absolutely the wrong policy.

600
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:18,734
What is true is that while
there is still more work to

601
00:32:18,734 --> 00:32:21,199
do, the economy has added
private sector jobs now for

602
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,834
29 straight months, for a
total of 4.5 million jobs

603
00:32:24,834 --> 00:32:26,333
during that period.

604
00:32:26,333 --> 00:32:29,567
And just this year, the
economy has added over 1.1

605
00:32:29,567 --> 00:32:32,066
million private sector jobs.

606
00:32:32,066 --> 00:32:34,600
Friday's report shows that
private sector payrolls

607
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,265
increased by 172,000 in July.

608
00:32:38,266 --> 00:32:42,567
And while that is not enough,
it is progress in the right

609
00:32:42,567 --> 00:32:44,500
direction, which is
continued job creation.

610
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:47,533
But you will never hear this
President say that he is

611
00:32:47,533 --> 00:32:52,000
satisfied, and that is why he
is focused overwhelmingly on

612
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,767
the things that he can do as
President and the things he

613
00:32:53,767 --> 00:32:57,333
can do working with Congress
to increase economic growth,

614
00:32:57,333 --> 00:32:59,333
to increase job
creation, to increase

615
00:32:59,333 --> 00:33:01,834
middle-class security.

616
00:33:01,834 --> 00:33:05,333
That is his legislative
message, his policy message,

617
00:33:05,333 --> 00:33:07,200
as well as his
campaign message.

618
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,433
The Press:
No President has gotten
reelected with an unemployment

619
00:33:09,433 --> 00:33:10,734
rate this high.

620
00:33:10,734 --> 00:33:12,966
So how concerned is
the President about

621
00:33:12,967 --> 00:33:14,400
that 8.3 percent --

622
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,000
Mr. Carney:
Well, I think the --

623
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,700
The Press:
-- the fact that it remains
stuck above 8 percent?

624
00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:21,934
Mr. Carney:
It's a random factoid that's
thrown out a lot because of

625
00:33:21,934 --> 00:33:23,867
the limited
empirical pool here.

626
00:33:23,867 --> 00:33:25,500
And what is true is nobody
-- no President has been

627
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:28,300
reelected with a rate
that high since FDR.

628
00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:30,233
And I think that's an
instructive comparison,

629
00:33:30,233 --> 00:33:33,399
because, as you all know, this
President came into office

630
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,767
during the worst economic
crisis since Franklin

631
00:33:35,767 --> 00:33:36,767
Roosevelt was in power.

632
00:33:36,767 --> 00:33:44,300
And the fact is, when he took
the oath of office, we were in

633
00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:47,934
the process of losing
800,000 jobs that month.

634
00:33:47,934 --> 00:33:51,500
We had just witnessed an
economic contraction in the

635
00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:55,233
fourth quarter of 2008,
the final quarter of his

636
00:33:55,233 --> 00:33:59,600
predecessor's term in
office, of nearly 9 percent.

637
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,500
That great recession
cost the economy close

638
00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:05,867
to 9 million jobs.

639
00:34:05,867 --> 00:34:10,199
That is a very deep hole
out of which to climb.

640
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:12,667
Since this President's
policies have taken effect --

641
00:34:12,667 --> 00:34:17,699
and if we take the advice of
some leading Republicans that

642
00:34:17,699 --> 00:34:20,799
we should measure performance
after someone -- after a

643
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,533
President is in office for
six months or a year -- if

644
00:34:23,533 --> 00:34:25,699
you look at what has happened
in this economy since this

645
00:34:25,699 --> 00:34:31,966
President's policies have
taken effect, we have seen, as

646
00:34:31,967 --> 00:34:34,967
I said, 29 straight months of
private sector job growth, for

647
00:34:34,967 --> 00:34:36,667
a total of 4.5 million jobs.

648
00:34:36,667 --> 00:34:41,266
We have seen economic growth,
as opposed to contraction, for

649
00:34:41,266 --> 00:34:43,100
quarter after quarter
after quarter.

650
00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:45,132
But we still have
a long way to go.

651
00:34:45,132 --> 00:34:49,065
And what we cannot afford,
what we simply cannot afford

652
00:34:49,065 --> 00:34:53,632
is to adopt the same policies
that got us into this mess.

653
00:34:53,632 --> 00:34:57,065
I mean, we've tried the
prescription that Republicans

654
00:34:57,065 --> 00:34:58,834
are offering.

655
00:34:58,834 --> 00:35:04,734
And when a doctor offers you
a prescription for an illness,

656
00:35:04,734 --> 00:35:06,734
it shouldn't make
the illness worse.

657
00:35:06,734 --> 00:35:09,000
It shouldn't -- if you're
recovering from a sickness,

658
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,500
you don't want a doctor to
give you something that's

659
00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:13,567
going to make you even
sicker than you were before.

660
00:35:13,567 --> 00:35:14,633
But that's what
they're offering.

661
00:35:14,633 --> 00:35:18,133
They're offering the same
economic prescriptions that

662
00:35:18,133 --> 00:35:23,133
were introduced in
2001, 2002, 2003.

663
00:35:23,133 --> 00:35:24,399
And we know what happened.

664
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,533
President Bush came into
office in January of 2001;

665
00:35:27,533 --> 00:35:32,900
handed to him were the
significant surpluses by Bill

666
00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:39,600
Clinton; handed to him was a
situation where the economy

667
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,667
had just produced nearly 24
million jobs, for the largest

668
00:35:42,667 --> 00:35:48,000
period of sustained economic
expansion since -- a peacetime

669
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:53,166
economic expansion since World
War II; and eight years later,

670
00:35:53,166 --> 00:35:57,066
after these policies were
tried, we had the slowest

671
00:35:57,066 --> 00:36:02,433
growth during an expansion in
history, I believe, and we had

672
00:36:02,433 --> 00:36:05,200
a cascading economic
collapse like we hadn't

673
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,799
seen in our lifetimes.

674
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:07,834
So we shouldn't go back.

675
00:36:07,834 --> 00:36:10,265
We shouldn't adopt
those policies again.

676
00:36:10,266 --> 00:36:13,033
We are not where we need to
be, but we're headed in the

677
00:36:13,033 --> 00:36:14,333
right direction.

678
00:36:14,333 --> 00:36:15,667
The Press:
Jay, I want to ask
you one on Pakistan.

679
00:36:15,667 --> 00:36:20,033
The new ISI chief visited
Washington last week, met with

680
00:36:20,033 --> 00:36:23,100
Director Petraeus as well
with other top officials.

681
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:25,633
Was the President kept abreast
of those meetings, and was

682
00:36:25,633 --> 00:36:28,700
there a sense that they
in any way moved the needle

683
00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:30,734
forward in terms of
creating progress with

684
00:36:30,734 --> 00:36:32,467
Pakistani-U.S. relations?

685
00:36:32,467 --> 00:36:34,266
Mr. Carney:
I don't have anything
specific on the meetings

686
00:36:34,266 --> 00:36:36,567
that you ask about.

687
00:36:36,567 --> 00:36:38,300
I can simply say that our
relationship with Pakistan

688
00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:39,767
is very important.

689
00:36:39,767 --> 00:36:41,466
It can be a difficult
relationship, but it is

690
00:36:41,467 --> 00:36:44,900
very important to our
national security.

691
00:36:44,900 --> 00:36:50,000
We have shared interests in
terms of combating extremism

692
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,467
in the region, and we work
with the Pakistanis on those

693
00:36:54,467 --> 00:36:56,500
shared interests all the time.

694
00:36:56,500 --> 00:36:58,433
And the President is
constantly kept abreast

695
00:36:58,433 --> 00:36:59,934
of those efforts.

696
00:36:59,934 --> 00:37:00,934
Laura.

697
00:37:00,934 --> 00:37:02,834
The Press:
Just returning to
guns for a moment.

698
00:37:02,834 --> 00:37:06,834
You've said, in response to
a bunch of questions, that he

699
00:37:06,834 --> 00:37:10,700
supports enforcing -- better
enforcing existing laws.

700
00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:13,500
His position in the past has
been in favor of renewing the

701
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:15,500
assault weapons ban,
which would, at this point,

702
00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:16,333
be a new law.

703
00:37:16,333 --> 00:37:18,867
He also said in New Orleans
that AK-47s belong on the

704
00:37:18,867 --> 00:37:20,867
battlefield, not
on the streets.

705
00:37:20,867 --> 00:37:23,400
Does he still support
that legislation?

706
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:23,967
Mr. Carney:
He does.

707
00:37:23,967 --> 00:37:25,734
And I've said that before from
the podium in the last week,

708
00:37:25,734 --> 00:37:29,100
that he does support renewing
the assault weapons ban.

709
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:32,033
I think what I've noted in the
past, and what I noted here,

710
00:37:32,033 --> 00:37:37,299
is that there has been
reluctance by Congress to

711
00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:39,000
pass that renewal.

712
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,033
The Press:
What's considered sort of an
update of that legislation is

713
00:37:42,033 --> 00:37:45,100
the amendment that you were
asked about a couple of times

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00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:47,799
last week, which was to ban
high-capacity magazines.

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00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,433
That's viewed by advocates as
essentially accomplishing the

716
00:37:51,433 --> 00:37:52,667
same thing in a better way.

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00:37:52,667 --> 00:37:55,767
And when you were asked about
that in the past, you didn't

718
00:37:55,767 --> 00:37:56,667
have a position.

719
00:37:56,667 --> 00:37:58,299
Do you have -- does the
administration have a

720
00:37:58,300 --> 00:37:58,934
position on that?

721
00:37:58,934 --> 00:38:01,200
Mr. Carney:
Well, I think the legislation
on this issue broadly, whether

722
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:06,600
it's the specific piece of
legislation that you mention

723
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,366
-- if such legislation
emerges, the President will

724
00:38:09,367 --> 00:38:14,266
evaluate it, the White House
will evaluate it, guided by

725
00:38:14,266 --> 00:38:18,400
the principles that I talked
about earlier, which is his

726
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,934
desire to make it harder for
people who should not have

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00:38:21,934 --> 00:38:24,900
weapons under existing law
from getting them, and under

728
00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:28,500
the principle that we should
not infringe upon the Second

729
00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:32,033
Amendment rights of
American citizens.

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00:38:32,033 --> 00:38:34,000
But I'm not going to
speculate about pieces

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00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,533
of suggested legislation.

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00:38:38,533 --> 00:38:40,200
If something emerges from
Congress we'll certainly

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00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,332
evaluate it.

734
00:38:41,333 --> 00:38:43,400
The Press:
Well, it's introduced;
it wasn't just --

735
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,500
Mr. Carney:
Well, I know, but -- and
I think we've noted where

736
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:49,333
Congress is on these issues.

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00:38:49,333 --> 00:38:50,967
If something emerges
from Congress we'll

738
00:38:50,967 --> 00:38:52,066
certainly evaluate it.

739
00:38:52,066 --> 00:38:54,466
The Press:
And the other thing you talk
about on this issue is the

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00:38:54,467 --> 00:38:57,333
national dialogue on issues
beyond just gun control, but

741
00:38:57,333 --> 00:39:00,333
violence, and you point out
that he gave that speech.

742
00:39:00,333 --> 00:39:02,834
Does he feel like that speech
has sort of accomplished his

743
00:39:02,834 --> 00:39:04,966
part of this dialogue,
and now it's up to others?

744
00:39:04,967 --> 00:39:07,333
Mr. Carney:
I'm sure he will discuss these
issues again in the future.

745
00:39:07,333 --> 00:39:10,033
I think you've asked on
a number of occasions for

746
00:39:10,033 --> 00:39:12,266
specific dates when
he might speak again.

747
00:39:12,266 --> 00:39:14,700
I don't have any
announcements to make on that.

748
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:17,466
But the President has
addressed this on several

749
00:39:17,467 --> 00:39:19,700
occasions and I'm sure
will again in the future.

750
00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:21,734
The Press:
Does he feel like that speech
accomplished its purpose?

751
00:39:21,734 --> 00:39:28,299
Mr. Carney:
I don't think he does feel
that the goal of addressing

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00:39:28,300 --> 00:39:31,633
violence in America has been
achieved, and that's why we

753
00:39:31,633 --> 00:39:37,433
need to continue to work
collectively on efforts across

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00:39:37,433 --> 00:39:39,767
the board to reduce
violence in America.

755
00:39:39,767 --> 00:39:40,767
Christi.

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00:39:40,767 --> 00:39:43,165
The Press:
Jay, when the President
disagrees with Congress's

757
00:39:43,166 --> 00:39:45,734
decision not to take up
legislation like this, he goes

758
00:39:45,734 --> 00:39:48,866
out in the country and tries
to pressure them publicly, and

759
00:39:48,867 --> 00:39:50,467
even shame them
into doing that.

760
00:39:50,467 --> 00:39:52,800
Is this -- does this fall
under the same category,

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00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,567
the assault weapons ban,
or some version of it?

762
00:39:55,567 --> 00:39:57,767
Mr. Carney:
There's a lot of legislation
the President has a position on.

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00:39:57,767 --> 00:40:02,332
He believes -- his support
for renewal hasn't changed.

764
00:40:02,333 --> 00:40:07,700
I think we all recognize the
situation in Congress with

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00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:12,332
regards to that particular
proposal as well as others.

766
00:40:12,333 --> 00:40:14,734
The President is focused,
as he talked about in New

767
00:40:14,734 --> 00:40:19,667
Orleans, on doing what he
can, through his Department of

768
00:40:19,667 --> 00:40:24,533
Justice, to take common- sense
measures that will enhance our

769
00:40:24,533 --> 00:40:28,767
security by improving
background checks and making

770
00:40:28,767 --> 00:40:30,600
it harder for those who
should not have weapons under

771
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,100
existing law from obtaining
them, and working more broadly

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00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:37,133
to address the issue
of violence in America.

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00:40:37,133 --> 00:40:40,767
Because, as I've said now on
a couple of occasions, the

774
00:40:40,767 --> 00:40:45,332
issue, as the President sees
it, transcends legislation

775
00:40:45,333 --> 00:40:48,700
relating to guns; it has to
do with a whole variety of

776
00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:50,500
factors, and should be
addressed accordingly.

777
00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:52,734
The Press:
But he's been successful at
pressuring Congress to take

778
00:40:52,734 --> 00:40:54,366
up specific legislation.

779
00:40:54,367 --> 00:40:56,734
Does he view this
as less possible?

780
00:40:56,734 --> 00:40:59,700
Mr. Carney:
Well, I'm not going to
grade possibilities here.

781
00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:05,866
I think the President believes
that we should -- with

782
00:41:05,867 --> 00:41:09,700
Congress where possible, but
administratively where allowed

783
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:14,767
-- take measures that enhance
security by making it harder

784
00:41:14,767 --> 00:41:16,734
for those who should not have
these weapons under existing

785
00:41:16,734 --> 00:41:19,500
law from obtaining them,
but also protect our Second

786
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:20,500
Amendment rights.

787
00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:23,800
And he'll continue to do that.

788
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,500
April.

789
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:25,867
The Press:
Thank you.

790
00:41:25,867 --> 00:41:29,533
Going back to the gun issue,
what is the threshold when

791
00:41:29,533 --> 00:41:33,066
this administration will say
when it's time to take the gun

792
00:41:33,066 --> 00:41:37,734
issue out of that broad basket
of violence and focus straight

793
00:41:37,734 --> 00:41:40,633
on -- I mean, in recent
weeks we've had two fatal,

794
00:41:40,633 --> 00:41:42,265
horrific shootings.

795
00:41:42,266 --> 00:41:44,533
When does this administration
take it out of that violence

796
00:41:44,533 --> 00:41:48,799
basket and put a spotlight
specifically on it?

797
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,700
Mr. Carney:
Well, I think, April, the
question, as the President

798
00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:57,866
discussed in New Orleans,
is not one of specific

799
00:41:57,867 --> 00:41:59,834
high-profile incidents alone.

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00:41:59,834 --> 00:42:05,265
And the unfortunate reality
is that while these terrible

801
00:42:05,266 --> 00:42:09,433
incidents get a lot of
headlines, there is violence

802
00:42:09,433 --> 00:42:10,734
in America every day.

803
00:42:11,533 --> 00:42:14,232
The Press:
And a lot of it is gun violence.

804
00:42:14,233 --> 00:42:15,166
Mr. Carney:
No question.

805
00:42:15,166 --> 00:42:18,600
But that's why we have to
work collectively towards

806
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:24,700
addressing these issues in
ways that reduce violence and

807
00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:28,834
include efforts to keep kids
in school, keep them off the

808
00:42:28,834 --> 00:42:34,500
streets and from joining
gangs, in efforts to, as the

809
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:37,734
President has done through his
Department of Justice, make it

810
00:42:37,734 --> 00:42:40,400
harder for criminals and
others who should not have

811
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,867
weapons under existing
law from obtaining them.

812
00:42:42,867 --> 00:42:44,333
That's the kind of
comprehensive approach the

813
00:42:44,333 --> 00:42:47,133
President thinks we ought to
adopt, and that he has adopted

814
00:42:47,133 --> 00:42:48,066
in office.

815
00:42:48,066 --> 00:42:50,000
The Press:
But, Jay, many of these acts
you can't police against --

816
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,967
many in law enforcement say
you can't police against them.

817
00:42:52,967 --> 00:42:54,934
So when you can't police
against something like that,

818
00:42:54,934 --> 00:42:58,700
it would seem that the other
half would deal with issues of

819
00:42:58,700 --> 00:43:02,466
gun control, of the assault
weapons ban being -- not

820
00:43:02,467 --> 00:43:04,967
renewing, but creating a
new assault weapons ban.

821
00:43:04,967 --> 00:43:08,133
Why not now? Why not now?

822
00:43:08,133 --> 00:43:09,933
Mr. Carney:
Again, I think I've answered
this question a bunch, but the

823
00:43:09,934 --> 00:43:13,000
President's approach is that
we should work with Congress

824
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,934
where possible, and
administratively where

825
00:43:14,934 --> 00:43:19,000
allowed, to advance
common-sense measures that

826
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,467
enhance our security, that
keep weapons out of the hands

827
00:43:21,467 --> 00:43:23,200
of criminals and others who
shouldn't have them under

828
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,265
existing law, but that protect
Second Amendment rights, which

829
00:43:26,266 --> 00:43:30,200
the President thinks is
an important goal as well.

830
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,667
I think that I can
say that that's the

831
00:43:33,667 --> 00:43:34,333
President's approach.

832
00:43:34,333 --> 00:43:36,967
You heard it recently
in New Orleans.

833
00:43:36,967 --> 00:43:40,033
I'm sure you'll hear from
him again on this issue.

834
00:43:40,033 --> 00:43:45,633
But I don't expect his broader
view here about the broader

835
00:43:45,633 --> 00:43:47,734
problem with violence in
America is going to change

836
00:43:47,734 --> 00:43:50,400
because of a
specific incident.

837
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,834
It's a broader problem that
needs to be addressed from a

838
00:43:52,834 --> 00:43:54,500
variety of fronts.

839
00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:57,000
The Press:
My last question -- so is
the White House Office of

840
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,133
Legislative Affairs actively
working with congressional

841
00:43:59,133 --> 00:44:02,466
leaders, congressional
staffers, now on issues

842
00:44:02,467 --> 00:44:07,433
of gun control and a new
assault weapons ban?

843
00:44:07,433 --> 00:44:09,600
Mr. Carney:
I don't have any
legislative update for you.

844
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,232
I think Congress is out
of session at the moment.

845
00:44:13,233 --> 00:44:14,200
Olivier.

846
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,366
The Press:
Yes, I've got a
couple for you.

847
00:44:15,367 --> 00:44:19,800
Has the President seen the
images beamed back from Mars?

848
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,834
Mr. Carney:
I didn't ask him.

849
00:44:21,834 --> 00:44:23,799
I think that was -- you saw
the statement that we put out.

850
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,734
It's a remarkable achievement
and I think is testimony to

851
00:44:27,734 --> 00:44:36,400
the ingenuity of the American
people and American companies,

852
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,600
and of NASA in particular.

853
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,600
But I haven't talked
to him about whether

854
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,900
he's seen these images.

855
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:42,467
It really is quite remarkable.

856
00:44:42,467 --> 00:44:45,734
The Press:
And given the weeks and months
in which you've said that

857
00:44:45,734 --> 00:44:48,567
Assad's days are numbered,
does the United States today

858
00:44:48,567 --> 00:44:51,100
have a plan for the
post-Assad Syria?

859
00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:51,933
Mr. Carney:
Does the United
States have what?

860
00:44:51,934 --> 00:44:53,800
The Press:
A plan for post-Assad Syria --

861
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:54,567
Mr. Carney:
That's a great question.

862
00:44:54,567 --> 00:44:55,367
We are working --

863
00:44:55,367 --> 00:44:57,667
The Press:
-- chemical weapons, making
sure that violence doesn't

864
00:44:57,667 --> 00:44:59,232
spill over, that
kind of thing.

865
00:44:59,233 --> 00:45:03,834
Mr. Carney:
We very much are focused on,
with our partners and the

866
00:45:03,834 --> 00:45:07,600
"Friends of Syria," with the
opposition directly, with the

867
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,600
Arab League, on what a
post-Assad Syria will look

868
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:18,000
like, and on the opportunity
for the Syrian people to enjoy

869
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,700
a better life in a post-Assad
world, under a government that

870
00:45:22,700 --> 00:45:28,232
would be inclusive and
that would give voice

871
00:45:28,233 --> 00:45:29,934
to their aspirations.

872
00:45:29,934 --> 00:45:34,533
There are a lot of issues
involved that would have to

873
00:45:34,533 --> 00:45:36,967
be resolved, principally by
the Syrian people, in terms

874
00:45:36,967 --> 00:45:39,433
of achieving that better future.

875
00:45:39,433 --> 00:45:43,233
But there is no question that
the first step towards that

876
00:45:43,233 --> 00:45:47,266
better future is Assad's
departure from the scene,

877
00:45:47,266 --> 00:45:50,300
because the longer he
stays in power, the worst

878
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:52,266
the situation gets.

879
00:45:52,266 --> 00:45:53,333
We have seen that repeatedly.

880
00:45:53,333 --> 00:45:57,834
And those who have suggested
that, in explaining their

881
00:45:57,834 --> 00:46:03,066
continued support for Assad,
that somehow having him in

882
00:46:03,066 --> 00:46:06,232
power is a better alternative
to having him leave power, I

883
00:46:06,233 --> 00:46:11,533
think that argument is
disproved daily by the

884
00:46:11,533 --> 00:46:14,799
appalling violence Assad
brings to bear against

885
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,433
his own people.

886
00:46:19,433 --> 00:46:20,367
One more. Ann.

887
00:46:20,367 --> 00:46:23,400
The Press:
American athletes are coming
back with more than 60 medals

888
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,433
from the Olympics.

889
00:46:24,433 --> 00:46:27,433
Does the President think that
they should pay taxes, since

890
00:46:27,433 --> 00:46:31,000
in some cases, $9,000 for not
only the medal but the cash

891
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,934
awards they bring home?

892
00:46:32,934 --> 00:46:36,600
Mr. Carney:
Well, the President believes
that we should support

893
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,066
efforts, like I think the bill
you're referencing, to ensure

894
00:46:39,066 --> 00:46:41,567
that we are doing everything
we can to honor and support

895
00:46:41,567 --> 00:46:43,900
our Olympic athletes who have
volunteered to represent our

896
00:46:43,900 --> 00:46:45,834
nation at the Olympic Games.

897
00:46:45,834 --> 00:46:49,500
So he supports that bill.

898
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:52,800
If it were to get to his
desk, he would support it.

899
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:53,567
Thank you.