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1 00:00:03,303 --> 00:00:07,273 Mr. Earnest: Good afternoon, everybody. 2 00:00:07,273 --> 00:00:09,274 Nice to see you all. 3 00:00:09,275 --> 00:00:12,746 I do not have announcements at the top, so we can go 4 00:00:12,746 --> 00:00:13,747 straight to questions. 5 00:00:13,747 --> 00:00:14,381 Josh, do you want to start? 6 00:00:14,381 --> 00:00:14,848 The Press: Sure. 7 00:00:14,848 --> 00:00:16,015 Thanks, Josh. 8 00:00:16,015 --> 00:00:18,918 Secretaries Kerry and Moniz are on the Hill today where 9 00:00:18,918 --> 00:00:21,287 they're working to allay some concerns about these 10 00:00:21,287 --> 00:00:25,224 two bilateral deals between Iran and the IAEA over 11 00:00:25,225 --> 00:00:29,195 Parchin, and also past military activity. 12 00:00:29,195 --> 00:00:31,197 And they're making basically the same argument that 13 00:00:31,197 --> 00:00:33,299 Ambassador Rice made here yesterday, which is we're 14 00:00:33,299 --> 00:00:35,168 not holding back anything from you because we actually 15 00:00:35,168 --> 00:00:38,304 haven't seen the text of these agreements. 16 00:00:38,304 --> 00:00:40,774 So my question to you is, if the U.S. 17 00:00:40,774 --> 00:00:44,277 hasn't even seen these agreements and really has 18 00:00:44,277 --> 00:00:47,847 gotten only what Secretary Moniz described as kind of 19 00:00:47,847 --> 00:00:50,183 general briefings about them, how can you be so 20 00:00:50,183 --> 00:00:52,218 confident that these are good deals and that they 21 00:00:52,218 --> 00:00:54,554 adequately address concerns that the U.S. 22 00:00:54,554 --> 00:00:56,556 and its partners have about Iran? 23 00:00:56,556 --> 00:00:58,958 Mr. Earnest: Well, Josh, to be clear -- and I think this 24 00:00:58,958 --> 00:01:01,461 is consistent with what Secretary Kerry and Moniz 25 00:01:01,461 --> 00:01:05,732 and Lew said on Capitol Hill today, is that this does not 26 00:01:05,732 --> 00:01:09,202 represent some sort of side deal. 27 00:01:09,202 --> 00:01:14,441 In fact, you'll recall that prior to Iran getting any 28 00:01:14,441 --> 00:01:18,111 kind of sanctions relief, they have to provide the 29 00:01:18,111 --> 00:01:22,949 IAEA with the information and access that they need in 30 00:01:22,949 --> 00:01:25,118 order to complete their report about the possible 31 00:01:25,118 --> 00:01:27,586 military dimensions of Iran's nuclear program. 32 00:01:27,587 --> 00:01:29,889 So I know there has been a suggestion by some 33 00:01:29,889 --> 00:01:33,493 Republicans that there is some agreement that was cut 34 00:01:33,493 --> 00:01:34,527 off to the side. 35 00:01:34,527 --> 00:01:36,529 The fact is, this is a critical part of the 36 00:01:36,529 --> 00:01:39,332 agreement, and in fact, this deal cannot go forward until 37 00:01:39,332 --> 00:01:41,667 that information and that access has been provided to 38 00:01:41,668 --> 00:01:45,171 the nuclear experts at the IAEA. 39 00:01:45,171 --> 00:01:49,409 Now, separately, this is the international institution 40 00:01:49,409 --> 00:01:54,447 that is responsible for carrying out these kinds 41 00:01:54,447 --> 00:01:55,448 of inspections. 42 00:01:55,448 --> 00:01:59,219 They're a neutral party, but yet they have the kind of 43 00:01:59,219 --> 00:02:02,655 expertise that's required in order to conduct these kinds 44 00:02:02,655 --> 00:02:05,124 of inspections, evaluate this information, and 45 00:02:05,124 --> 00:02:07,994 generate reports. 46 00:02:07,994 --> 00:02:10,630 And that's exactly what they're going to do. 47 00:02:10,630 --> 00:02:17,237 And our negotiating team is aware of the agreements that 48 00:02:17,237 --> 00:02:20,906 have been made between the IAEA and the Iranians. 49 00:02:20,907 --> 00:02:23,910 You'll recall that even in the final days of the 50 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:28,081 negotiations, that there was some travel by senior IAEA 51 00:02:28,081 --> 00:02:30,149 officials to Tehran, to start talking through 52 00:02:30,149 --> 00:02:31,184 these issues. 53 00:02:31,184 --> 00:02:33,987 And what I believe Secretary Moniz made clear today in 54 00:02:33,987 --> 00:02:36,055 the context of the hearing is that there are members of 55 00:02:36,055 --> 00:02:38,124 Congress that would like to get greater understanding 56 00:02:38,124 --> 00:02:41,494 into the kind of access and information that the IAEA is 57 00:02:41,494 --> 00:02:45,198 seeking that our negotiators will, in a classified 58 00:02:45,198 --> 00:02:47,433 setting, have a conversation with those members of 59 00:02:47,433 --> 00:02:49,835 Congress about what exactly the IAEA is seeking. 60 00:02:49,836 --> 00:02:52,438 The Press: The point right there -- can you tell us 61 00:02:52,438 --> 00:02:53,472 when that will take place? 62 00:02:53,473 --> 00:02:57,210 Because apparently this came up in some of the classified 63 00:02:57,210 --> 00:03:02,115 briefings that took place yesterday, and there was not 64 00:03:02,115 --> 00:03:03,883 information that was given to Congress about those 65 00:03:03,883 --> 00:03:06,886 separate agreements that the IAEA has with Iran. 66 00:03:06,886 --> 00:03:09,789 So is there a time when you plan to brief Congress in a 67 00:03:09,789 --> 00:03:10,790 classified setting about those? 68 00:03:10,790 --> 00:03:12,959 Mr. Earnest: Well, I'd refer you to the Department of 69 00:03:12,959 --> 00:03:15,061 Energy on this, but we can see if we can get you some 70 00:03:15,061 --> 00:03:16,062 more specific things. 71 00:03:16,062 --> 00:03:18,398 I don't know that there will necessarily be a formal 72 00:03:18,398 --> 00:03:20,400 hearing on this, although I suppose that there could be. 73 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,036 But again, it would be in a classified setting. 74 00:03:23,036 --> 00:03:25,004 What we're talking about is, is we're talking about 75 00:03:25,004 --> 00:03:28,507 information that is sensitive information that 76 00:03:28,508 --> 00:03:30,510 we obviously don't want to have a discussion about 77 00:03:30,510 --> 00:03:33,846 publicly because it poses a proliferation risk. 78 00:03:33,846 --> 00:03:37,684 But there is a desire and a willingness to share 79 00:03:37,684 --> 00:03:40,085 information, and that's exactly what our negotiators 80 00:03:40,086 --> 00:03:41,588 have committed to doing. 81 00:03:41,588 --> 00:03:43,590 The last thing I'll say about this, Josh -- and this 82 00:03:43,590 --> 00:03:45,592 is an important part of this that should also not 83 00:03:45,592 --> 00:03:47,794 be overlooked. 84 00:03:47,794 --> 00:03:51,264 The eventual IAEA report about the possible military 85 00:03:51,264 --> 00:03:53,833 dimensions of Iran's nuclear program will be published 86 00:03:53,833 --> 00:03:54,934 and made public. 87 00:03:54,934 --> 00:03:56,936 So people will have an opportunity to see the 88 00:03:56,936 --> 00:03:58,938 conclusions that were reached by the experts at 89 00:03:58,938 --> 00:04:01,474 the IAEA about the potential military dimensions of 90 00:04:01,474 --> 00:04:02,742 Iran's nuclear program. 91 00:04:02,742 --> 00:04:06,012 The Press: Has the President been following the situation 92 00:04:06,012 --> 00:04:10,249 with Sandra Bland in Texas, and the incident there? 93 00:04:10,249 --> 00:04:12,352 And does he have any thoughts or reaction to 94 00:04:12,352 --> 00:04:14,287 what's taking place there? 95 00:04:14,287 --> 00:04:16,656 Mr. Earnest: Josh, I know that he is aware of this 96 00:04:16,656 --> 00:04:19,425 incident that has received significant media attention 97 00:04:19,425 --> 00:04:21,427 over the last week or so. 98 00:04:23,029 --> 00:04:27,000 This is a situation that is currently under 99 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,371 investigation by local law enforcement and the local 100 00:04:31,371 --> 00:04:33,573 prosecutor down in Texas. 101 00:04:33,573 --> 00:04:37,710 And so I'm reluctant to wade in with the President's 102 00:04:37,710 --> 00:04:41,246 specific thoughts here until the local prosecutors have 103 00:04:41,247 --> 00:04:44,117 had an opportunity to conclude the inquiry that 104 00:04:44,117 --> 00:04:47,053 they said that they have opened into this matter. 105 00:04:47,053 --> 00:04:49,055 The Press: On another topic that came up with Ambassador 106 00:04:49,055 --> 00:04:51,124 Rice yesterday in talking about the President's trip 107 00:04:51,124 --> 00:04:53,926 that he leaves on this evening, and some of the 108 00:04:53,926 --> 00:04:55,762 calls from Kenyan politicians and other 109 00:04:55,762 --> 00:04:58,064 leaders for the President not to bring up gay rights 110 00:04:58,064 --> 00:04:59,098 while he's there. 111 00:04:59,098 --> 00:05:02,402 She said basically, if it's appropriate, I'm sure the 112 00:05:02,402 --> 00:05:05,271 President will feel comfortable bringing up the 113 00:05:05,271 --> 00:05:07,273 issue if he wants to. 114 00:05:07,273 --> 00:05:10,410 But that seems like it's a far cry from some of these 115 00:05:10,410 --> 00:05:13,212 other trips that the President has taken where 116 00:05:13,212 --> 00:05:14,347 you've actually made a point. 117 00:05:14,347 --> 00:05:16,649 For instance, in China, to say we're going to 118 00:05:16,649 --> 00:05:19,018 proactively bring up the issue of human rights 119 00:05:19,018 --> 00:05:21,020 because we realize this is an issue here and we want 120 00:05:21,020 --> 00:05:22,388 that out there. 121 00:05:22,388 --> 00:05:25,358 So I'm wondering why the distinction there. 122 00:05:25,358 --> 00:05:29,295 And will the President, if he's not prompted on it, 123 00:05:29,295 --> 00:05:31,297 proactively bring up that issue? 124 00:05:31,297 --> 00:05:33,299 Mr. Earnest: Whenever the President travels anywhere 125 00:05:33,299 --> 00:05:36,301 around the world, Josh -- and you've covered numerous 126 00:05:36,302 --> 00:05:39,072 overseas trips that this President has taken -- the 127 00:05:39,072 --> 00:05:43,509 President routinely makes a strong case about the 128 00:05:43,509 --> 00:05:47,847 importance of governments protecting the basic 129 00:05:47,847 --> 00:05:49,916 universal human rights of their people. 130 00:05:49,916 --> 00:05:51,884 That's true when the President has previously 131 00:05:51,884 --> 00:05:52,885 traveled to the Middle East. 132 00:05:52,885 --> 00:05:54,053 That's been true when the President has traveled 133 00:05:54,053 --> 00:05:55,154 to Asia. 134 00:05:55,154 --> 00:05:57,890 That's been true when the President traveled to 135 00:05:57,890 --> 00:05:58,890 Latin America. 136 00:05:58,891 --> 00:06:00,893 And it'll be true when the President travels to Africa 137 00:06:00,893 --> 00:06:01,893 later this week. 138 00:06:01,894 --> 00:06:04,297 The President understands -- well, I'd actually say it 139 00:06:04,297 --> 00:06:05,298 this way. 140 00:06:05,298 --> 00:06:07,734 In the mind of the President, he can be a 141 00:06:07,734 --> 00:06:10,436 forceful advocate in traveling around the world 142 00:06:10,436 --> 00:06:13,772 in making the case for the protection of basic 143 00:06:13,773 --> 00:06:15,475 universal human rights. 144 00:06:15,475 --> 00:06:17,477 He does that everywhere he goes, and I'm confident that 145 00:06:17,477 --> 00:06:19,712 he'll do that in Africa too. 146 00:06:19,712 --> 00:06:20,712 Julia. 147 00:06:20,713 --> 00:06:23,116 The Press: The President of the UAW said that he met 148 00:06:23,116 --> 00:06:26,119 with Obama and Labor Secretary Perez last Friday, 149 00:06:26,119 --> 00:06:29,122 and he wants Obama to prevent auto-worker jobs 150 00:06:29,122 --> 00:06:32,625 from going to -- from leaving the U.S. 151 00:06:32,625 --> 00:06:34,260 Can you confirm that? 152 00:06:34,260 --> 00:06:37,363 And did the President -- can you confirm that meeting? 153 00:06:37,363 --> 00:06:39,465 And did the President make any promises? 154 00:06:39,465 --> 00:06:42,001 Mr. Earnest: Well, I can confirm the meeting. 155 00:06:42,001 --> 00:06:44,003 I don't have a lot of details from that meeting to 156 00:06:44,003 --> 00:06:45,003 read out to you. 157 00:06:45,004 --> 00:06:48,174 The President did have, as he often does, had a 158 00:06:48,174 --> 00:06:52,311 conversation with some leaders in the labor 159 00:06:52,311 --> 00:06:56,048 community about the President's continuing focus 160 00:06:56,048 --> 00:06:58,518 on expanding economic opportunity for middle-class 161 00:06:58,518 --> 00:06:59,818 families in this country. 162 00:06:59,819 --> 00:07:01,821 And there was an extensive discussion on a wide range 163 00:07:01,821 --> 00:07:04,891 of issues primarily focused around how to expand 164 00:07:04,891 --> 00:07:06,192 economic opportunity for everybody. 165 00:07:06,192 --> 00:07:08,394 The Press: I also wanted to see if you had anything more 166 00:07:08,394 --> 00:07:11,898 to say on the highway bill and the pay-fors now that 167 00:07:11,898 --> 00:07:16,769 that bill yesterday cleared a procedural vote in the Senate. 168 00:07:16,769 --> 00:07:21,073 Mr. Earnest: Well, I can tell you that our team is 169 00:07:21,073 --> 00:07:23,075 still reviewing the legislation. 170 00:07:23,075 --> 00:07:25,044 It's more than 1,000 pages long. 171 00:07:25,044 --> 00:07:27,647 So the things that they're paying particular close 172 00:07:27,647 --> 00:07:32,551 attention to are the pay-fors -- the offsets, if 173 00:07:32,552 --> 00:07:35,154 you will. 174 00:07:35,154 --> 00:07:37,557 Whenever we're talking about funding bills, Democrats and 175 00:07:37,557 --> 00:07:40,293 Republicans will often have the most heated 176 00:07:40,293 --> 00:07:44,697 disagreements when it comes to ensuring that these 177 00:07:44,697 --> 00:07:46,699 programs are properly funded. 178 00:07:48,201 --> 00:07:50,736 So that is getting some careful attention. 179 00:07:50,736 --> 00:07:53,139 There are concerns that have been raised about some of 180 00:07:53,139 --> 00:07:55,141 the safety provisions that are included in the bill. 181 00:07:55,141 --> 00:07:57,143 The Department of Transportation makes the 182 00:07:57,143 --> 00:07:59,744 safety of the American traveling public their 183 00:07:59,745 --> 00:08:00,746 top priority. 184 00:08:00,746 --> 00:08:03,349 So we're going to obviously take a close look at the 185 00:08:03,349 --> 00:08:06,118 safety provisions that are in here. 186 00:08:06,118 --> 00:08:08,120 And we're going to continue to have conversations with 187 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,856 members of Congress about this. 188 00:08:09,856 --> 00:08:12,123 The other thing that I mentioned yesterday that 189 00:08:12,124 --> 00:08:17,129 continues to be true today is that service 190 00:08:17,129 --> 00:08:19,699 transportation legislation is the most likely 191 00:08:22,702 --> 00:08:25,638 legislative vehicle -- no pun intended -- to move 192 00:08:25,638 --> 00:08:27,006 before the end of this month. 193 00:08:27,006 --> 00:08:34,413 And that's why we've insisted that the provisions 194 00:08:34,413 --> 00:08:37,450 related to reauthorizing the Export-Import Bank should be 195 00:08:37,450 --> 00:08:40,319 added to any transportation bill that passes Congress 196 00:08:40,318 --> 00:08:42,854 before the end of this month. 197 00:08:42,855 --> 00:08:43,322 The Press: Okay. 198 00:08:43,322 --> 00:08:44,490 But any more considerations on using the Strategic 199 00:08:44,490 --> 00:08:47,360 Petroleum Reserve as a pay-for, or that's still 200 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,294 under consideration? 201 00:08:48,294 --> 00:08:50,129 Mr. Earnest: I don't have any additional details to 202 00:08:50,129 --> 00:08:52,765 share about our current evaluation of the specific 203 00:08:52,765 --> 00:08:55,668 offsets that have been included in this legislation 204 00:08:55,668 --> 00:08:57,670 other than to tell you that we're continuing to 205 00:08:57,670 --> 00:08:58,670 review them. 206 00:08:58,671 --> 00:08:59,672 The Press: One more. 207 00:08:59,672 --> 00:09:02,975 A local newspaper in Turkey reported that President 208 00:09:02,975 --> 00:09:06,479 Obama and President Erdogan spoke last night and 209 00:09:06,479 --> 00:09:09,148 finalized an agreement on using the -- I might say 210 00:09:09,148 --> 00:09:11,784 this wrong -- Incirlik Air Base in Turkey. 211 00:09:11,784 --> 00:09:12,785 Can you confirm that? 212 00:09:12,785 --> 00:09:15,887 And would this base be used for launching 213 00:09:15,888 --> 00:09:16,989 U.S. airstrikes? 214 00:09:16,989 --> 00:09:18,057 Because I believe it's already used in 215 00:09:18,057 --> 00:09:20,192 some capacity. 216 00:09:20,192 --> 00:09:22,895 Mr. Earnest: There are a few things I can say about this. 217 00:09:22,895 --> 00:09:25,997 The President did obviously convene the telephone call 218 00:09:25,998 --> 00:09:28,000 that you just described. 219 00:09:29,101 --> 00:09:32,705 In that call, the two leaders discussed efforts to 220 00:09:32,705 --> 00:09:37,243 deepen our cooperation in the fight against ISIL. 221 00:09:37,243 --> 00:09:39,378 And when I say "our cooperation," I mean the 222 00:09:39,378 --> 00:09:42,114 cooperation that exists between Turkey and the 223 00:09:42,114 --> 00:09:44,550 United States and the other 60 or so countries that are 224 00:09:44,550 --> 00:09:47,887 part of our counter-ISIL coalition. 225 00:09:47,887 --> 00:09:51,156 Obviously anybody who's looked at a map of the 226 00:09:51,157 --> 00:09:54,527 region understands the significant interest that 227 00:09:54,527 --> 00:09:55,661 Turkey has in this situation. 228 00:09:55,661 --> 00:10:00,232 They share a border that's some 560 miles long with Syria. 229 00:10:00,232 --> 00:10:03,401 There have been reports, including as recently as, I 230 00:10:03,402 --> 00:10:08,574 believe, earlier this week of a bombing that occurred 231 00:10:08,574 --> 00:10:11,043 on the Turkish-Syrian border. 232 00:10:11,043 --> 00:10:15,548 Now, we're still trying to gather more information 233 00:10:15,548 --> 00:10:19,552 about what exactly occurred, but it's an indication that 234 00:10:19,552 --> 00:10:25,124 the instability along Turkey's southern border is 235 00:10:25,124 --> 00:10:27,626 a source of significant concern, and I think that 236 00:10:27,626 --> 00:10:29,362 concern is understandable. 237 00:10:29,362 --> 00:10:31,363 And in the context of the conversation that the 238 00:10:31,364 --> 00:10:36,435 President had with President Erdogan last night, they 239 00:10:36,435 --> 00:10:39,405 talked about efforts to enhance and deepen 240 00:10:39,405 --> 00:10:41,507 our cooperation. 241 00:10:41,507 --> 00:10:43,508 What they will be focused on is promoting security and 242 00:10:43,509 --> 00:10:47,279 stability in Iraq, and they will be focused on trying to 243 00:10:47,279 --> 00:10:50,915 bring about a political settlement inside of Syria. 244 00:10:50,916 --> 00:10:53,853 Now, it's notable that Turkey is already doing a 245 00:10:53,853 --> 00:10:58,924 number of things to support the counter-ISIL coalition. 246 00:10:58,924 --> 00:11:00,925 Turkey, as you know, is hosting one of the training 247 00:11:00,926 --> 00:11:03,062 facilities for the train-and-equip program for 248 00:11:03,062 --> 00:11:05,865 the moderate Syrian opposition. 249 00:11:05,865 --> 00:11:08,567 Turkey has taken important steps to curb the flow of 250 00:11:08,567 --> 00:11:09,969 foreign fighters. 251 00:11:09,969 --> 00:11:14,840 We do know from reports that this 560-mile-long border 252 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,144 between Turkey and Syria is traveled by some foreign 253 00:11:18,144 --> 00:11:23,716 fighters who are seeking to join up arms alongside ISIL. 254 00:11:23,716 --> 00:11:25,751 And Turkey has taken some important steps to try to 255 00:11:25,751 --> 00:11:28,187 close that border, and there may be more things that we 256 00:11:28,187 --> 00:11:30,723 can do together to help them stem that flow. 257 00:11:30,723 --> 00:11:33,592 Obviously it's not just Turkey's responsibility to 258 00:11:33,592 --> 00:11:35,661 try to stem that flow, but obviously it's the 259 00:11:35,661 --> 00:11:38,097 responsibility of countries around the world to be 260 00:11:38,097 --> 00:11:39,732 engaged in that effort. 261 00:11:39,732 --> 00:11:41,834 The last thing I'll say -- two things, actually. 262 00:11:41,834 --> 00:11:44,737 The first is that Turkey has been a leader in the 263 00:11:44,737 --> 00:11:46,137 humanitarian effort. 264 00:11:46,138 --> 00:11:48,140 Obviously there are a significant number of 265 00:11:48,140 --> 00:11:50,141 refugees that have been created by the crisis in 266 00:11:50,142 --> 00:11:53,079 Syria; many of them have fled Syria into Turkey. 267 00:11:53,079 --> 00:11:55,414 And Turkey is bearing a significant burden in trying 268 00:11:55,414 --> 00:11:59,318 to provide for nearly 2 million refugees who have 269 00:11:59,318 --> 00:12:01,787 fled from Syria into Turkey. 270 00:12:01,787 --> 00:12:07,660 That's an enormous burden on the nation of Turkey, and 271 00:12:07,660 --> 00:12:11,964 we're mindful of the amount of responsibility that 272 00:12:11,964 --> 00:12:13,666 they've assumed in that regard. 273 00:12:13,666 --> 00:12:17,403 You asked specifically about Incirlik, the military base 274 00:12:17,403 --> 00:12:19,405 in Turkey. 275 00:12:21,674 --> 00:12:28,646 I'm not able to talk about some of those issues because 276 00:12:28,647 --> 00:12:31,350 of specific operational security concerns. 277 00:12:31,350 --> 00:12:34,854 So what we have acknowledged is that our coalition has 278 00:12:34,854 --> 00:12:38,891 access to a variety of bases throughout Europe and the 279 00:12:38,891 --> 00:12:41,193 Middle East for a variety of missions. 280 00:12:41,193 --> 00:12:44,196 That includes ISR -- intelligence, surveillance, 281 00:12:44,196 --> 00:12:46,565 and reconnaissance -- personnel recovery, 282 00:12:46,565 --> 00:12:53,873 refueling, and the carrying out of military airstrikes. 283 00:12:53,873 --> 00:12:56,675 But for operational security reasons, I can't get into 284 00:12:59,211 --> 00:13:01,413 which bases are used for which purpose. 285 00:13:01,413 --> 00:13:03,449 The Press: Or whether or not there was any kind of new 286 00:13:03,449 --> 00:13:06,418 agreement reached last night on this phone call? 287 00:13:06,418 --> 00:13:08,988 Mr. Earnest: As it relates specifically to Incirlik, I 288 00:13:08,988 --> 00:13:10,990 don't have any details for you on that. 289 00:13:10,990 --> 00:13:12,992 But what I can confirm for you [is] that in the context 290 00:13:12,992 --> 00:13:15,661 of that conversation, the two leaders did agree that 291 00:13:15,661 --> 00:13:18,997 we would deepen our cooperation as we take on 292 00:13:18,998 --> 00:13:21,233 this ISIL threat. 293 00:13:21,233 --> 00:13:22,300 Kristen. 294 00:13:22,301 --> 00:13:23,302 The Press: Josh, thank you. 295 00:13:23,302 --> 00:13:26,772 FBI Director James Comey said yesterday that ISIS now 296 00:13:26,772 --> 00:13:28,307 poses a greater threat to the U.S. 297 00:13:28,307 --> 00:13:29,308 than al Qaeda. 298 00:13:29,308 --> 00:13:31,677 Is that consistent with the President's understanding of 299 00:13:31,677 --> 00:13:32,878 the situation right now? 300 00:13:32,878 --> 00:13:34,480 Mr. Earnest: Well, Kristen, obviously we've spent a lot 301 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,715 of time talking about -- and we just did -- talking about 302 00:13:36,715 --> 00:13:39,485 the significant resources and time and energy that's 303 00:13:39,485 --> 00:13:42,988 been devoted to countering ISIL; to executing a 304 00:13:42,988 --> 00:13:44,690 strategy that will degrade and ultimately destroy 305 00:13:44,690 --> 00:13:48,027 that organization. 306 00:13:48,027 --> 00:13:51,330 And whether it's military steps or steps to cut off 307 00:13:51,330 --> 00:13:54,733 their financing operations, trying to stem the flow of 308 00:13:54,733 --> 00:13:57,803 foreign fighters, countering their efforts to radicalize 309 00:13:57,803 --> 00:14:00,439 individuals using social media, we have a 310 00:14:00,439 --> 00:14:04,843 multi-pronged strategy that we're using to counter ISIL. 311 00:14:04,843 --> 00:14:09,548 What's also true is that this administration has been 312 00:14:09,548 --> 00:14:12,618 successful in decimating core al Qaeda. 313 00:14:12,618 --> 00:14:19,425 And the progress against al Qaeda affiliates around the 314 00:14:19,425 --> 00:14:21,359 globe continues. 315 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,796 You'll note -- we did not have an opportunity to talk 316 00:14:23,796 --> 00:14:26,799 about it yesterday -- but the Department of Defense 317 00:14:26,799 --> 00:14:32,304 announced earlier this week that Al Fadhli, the al Qaeda 318 00:14:32,304 --> 00:14:35,741 leader in Syria, was taken off the battlefield as the 319 00:14:35,741 --> 00:14:38,377 result of a Department of Defense airstrike earlier 320 00:14:38,377 --> 00:14:39,645 this month. 321 00:14:39,645 --> 00:14:45,150 This is an individual who was responsible for plotting 322 00:14:45,150 --> 00:14:49,822 and operationalizing external plots by al Qaeda 323 00:14:49,822 --> 00:14:51,690 against the United States. 324 00:14:51,690 --> 00:14:54,159 So we continue to be very mindful of the threat that's 325 00:14:54,159 --> 00:14:55,194 posed by al Qaeda. 326 00:14:55,194 --> 00:14:58,664 And that announcement is an indication -- should be an 327 00:14:58,664 --> 00:15:00,665 indication to you that we're not just focused on the 328 00:15:00,666 --> 00:15:02,668 threat, but that we're actually having success 329 00:15:02,668 --> 00:15:03,669 against that threat. 330 00:15:03,669 --> 00:15:04,670 The Press: Understood. 331 00:15:04,670 --> 00:15:06,738 But what FBI Director James Comey said was very specific 332 00:15:06,739 --> 00:15:10,109 -- that ISIS now poses a greater threat to the U.S. 333 00:15:10,109 --> 00:15:11,010 than al Qaeda. 334 00:15:11,010 --> 00:15:12,177 Is that the case? 335 00:15:12,177 --> 00:15:13,846 Does the President agree with that statement? 336 00:15:13,846 --> 00:15:15,447 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, I'd refer you to Director 337 00:15:15,447 --> 00:15:17,750 Comey for any comments -- for any explanation of 338 00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:18,550 his comments. 339 00:15:18,550 --> 00:15:20,953 What I'm telling you is that the President is very 340 00:15:20,953 --> 00:15:25,257 mindful of both threats, and the discussion of those 341 00:15:25,257 --> 00:15:27,559 threats in this briefing room should be a pretty 342 00:15:27,559 --> 00:15:28,560 clear indication of that. 343 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,561 But the other clear indication is the 344 00:15:30,562 --> 00:15:32,564 significant progress that we're making in countering 345 00:15:32,564 --> 00:15:34,565 both of those threats to the United States. 346 00:15:34,566 --> 00:15:36,702 The Press: And to that point, to your efforts to 347 00:15:36,702 --> 00:15:40,306 counter ISIS, Secretary Jeh Johnson said today, in terms 348 00:15:40,306 --> 00:15:43,909 of the effort to counter online social media 349 00:15:43,909 --> 00:15:46,712 messaging from ISIS, he said, "I believe that 350 00:15:46,712 --> 00:15:49,982 message is being developed, but it needs a 351 00:15:49,982 --> 00:15:51,283 broader platform." 352 00:15:51,283 --> 00:15:53,385 The question is, Josh, how come this message is still 353 00:15:53,385 --> 00:15:54,218 being developed? 354 00:15:54,219 --> 00:15:56,121 Why isn't there a clear counter message in place at 355 00:15:56,121 --> 00:15:57,489 this point? 356 00:15:57,489 --> 00:16:00,059 Mr. Earnest: Kristen, as you know, this is an effort that 357 00:16:00,059 --> 00:16:02,461 we have been engaged in for quite some time. 358 00:16:02,461 --> 00:16:05,364 Earlier this year, almost six months ago now, the 359 00:16:05,364 --> 00:16:08,267 White House convened a summit to focus on 360 00:16:08,267 --> 00:16:11,470 countering violent extremism where we talked quite a bit 361 00:16:11,470 --> 00:16:14,640 about trying to counter the efforts of extremists using 362 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:20,012 social media to radicalize vulnerable populations. 363 00:16:20,012 --> 00:16:22,513 And what we have found, and what continues to be true, 364 00:16:22,514 --> 00:16:26,719 is that when trying to counter the message of an 365 00:16:26,719 --> 00:16:29,621 organization like ISIL, the most effective way to do 366 00:16:29,621 --> 00:16:34,093 that is to build up the platform of moderate Muslim 367 00:16:34,093 --> 00:16:38,262 leaders; that they are the most persuasive voice. 368 00:16:38,263 --> 00:16:42,067 And we have worked with other countries -- the UAE, 369 00:16:42,067 --> 00:16:45,003 for example, has played an important role in helping us 370 00:16:45,003 --> 00:16:49,074 to develop and implement those messaging strategies. 371 00:16:49,074 --> 00:16:51,477 But the work on that certainly does continue, as 372 00:16:51,477 --> 00:16:52,810 the Secretary said. 373 00:16:52,811 --> 00:16:54,813 The Press: Well, I guess my question is, though, he 374 00:16:54,813 --> 00:16:57,983 seemed to suggest that the U.S. is behind. 375 00:16:57,983 --> 00:16:59,450 He said, "The counter message exists, but it needs 376 00:16:59,451 --> 00:17:00,719 a larger microphone." 377 00:17:00,719 --> 00:17:04,223 Why haven't we gotten further than that at this 378 00:17:04,223 --> 00:17:07,725 point, given the deep level of concern, given the report 379 00:17:07,726 --> 00:17:09,695 that came out last month by the State Department saying 380 00:17:09,694 --> 00:17:12,798 essentially that ISIS was trumping the U.S. 381 00:17:12,798 --> 00:17:15,099 when it came to its social media messaging? 382 00:17:15,099 --> 00:17:18,904 Mr. Earnest: Well, Kristen, we continue to be engaged on 383 00:17:18,904 --> 00:17:22,407 recruiting moderate voices, particularly in the Muslim 384 00:17:22,407 --> 00:17:26,811 community, who can be most effective and have the most 385 00:17:26,811 --> 00:17:30,181 credibility in countering the radical, hateful 386 00:17:30,182 --> 00:17:31,183 ideology of ISIL. 387 00:17:31,183 --> 00:17:33,719 The Press: Let me just ask you this: Is ISIS winning 388 00:17:33,719 --> 00:17:35,354 the social media war at this point? 389 00:17:35,354 --> 00:17:36,288 Mr. Earnest: That's certainly not the way that I 390 00:17:36,288 --> 00:17:37,122 would describe it. 391 00:17:37,122 --> 00:17:38,157 The Press: How would you describe it? 392 00:17:38,157 --> 00:17:40,458 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, I think I would describe it as 393 00:17:40,459 --> 00:17:42,628 -- the United States and this administration has, for 394 00:17:42,628 --> 00:17:46,197 a long time now, been focused on the need to 395 00:17:46,198 --> 00:17:52,004 counter the radical ideology that ISIL is spreading on 396 00:17:52,004 --> 00:17:53,004 social media. 397 00:17:53,005 --> 00:17:55,040 And there are a variety of ways for us to succeed in 398 00:17:55,040 --> 00:18:00,446 doing that, and one of them is to build up the capacity 399 00:18:00,446 --> 00:18:04,149 and prominence of moderate Muslim leaders to counter 400 00:18:04,149 --> 00:18:05,149 that ideology. 401 00:18:05,150 --> 00:18:07,152 The Press: And can you give us any details about the 402 00:18:07,152 --> 00:18:08,153 specific message? 403 00:18:08,153 --> 00:18:10,088 What should those moderate Muslim leaders be saying? 404 00:18:10,088 --> 00:18:11,523 Mr. Earnest: I'd refer you to the State Department 405 00:18:11,523 --> 00:18:12,390 for this. 406 00:18:12,391 --> 00:18:13,859 They are the ones who are principally responsible for 407 00:18:13,859 --> 00:18:17,696 working around the world to implement these strategies. 408 00:18:17,696 --> 00:18:18,629 So I'd refer you to them. 409 00:18:18,630 --> 00:18:20,132 The Press: Can you give us a sense? 410 00:18:20,132 --> 00:18:20,599 Mr. Earnest: I'd refer you to the State Department 411 00:18:20,599 --> 00:18:21,399 for that. 412 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:22,134 Paul. 413 00:18:22,134 --> 00:18:24,069 The Press: Josh, so the White House has full 414 00:18:24,069 --> 00:18:29,241 confidence in the IAEA and its capabilities? 415 00:18:29,241 --> 00:18:31,210 Is that a reasonable view? 416 00:18:31,210 --> 00:18:34,746 Mr. Earnest: I think what's a reasonable view, Paul, is 417 00:18:34,746 --> 00:18:39,084 that the international community has turned to the 418 00:18:39,084 --> 00:18:41,854 IAEA, which is an independent, international 419 00:18:41,854 --> 00:18:45,557 organization of nuclear experts who are responsible 420 00:18:45,557 --> 00:18:47,893 for conducting these kinds of inspections. 421 00:18:47,893 --> 00:18:55,601 They've done that in a variety of countries, and 422 00:18:55,601 --> 00:18:58,103 obviously they've got an important role here to play 423 00:18:58,103 --> 00:19:02,307 in examining the possible military dimensions of 424 00:19:02,307 --> 00:19:05,043 Iran's nuclear program. 425 00:19:05,043 --> 00:19:09,313 We have made contingent on this deal moving forward 426 00:19:09,314 --> 00:19:14,253 that Iran grant access and information to the IAEA that 427 00:19:14,253 --> 00:19:16,254 they need to complete their report. 428 00:19:16,255 --> 00:19:21,293 Now, the other thing that is true is that we actually 429 00:19:21,293 --> 00:19:25,062 have a lot of information about Iran's nuclear program 430 00:19:25,063 --> 00:19:26,532 that we have developed. 431 00:19:26,532 --> 00:19:28,533 So this is a lot of information that we 432 00:19:28,534 --> 00:19:29,535 already know. 433 00:19:29,535 --> 00:19:32,337 But what's important is to make sure that Iran, from 434 00:19:32,337 --> 00:19:35,240 the get-go, from the beginning, even before they 435 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,011 receive any kind of sanctions relief, that they 436 00:19:39,011 --> 00:19:44,081 are ready to comply with the requirements that the IAEA 437 00:19:44,082 --> 00:19:46,718 has for access and information. 438 00:19:46,718 --> 00:19:50,022 The Press: One of the raps against the IAEA, though, is 439 00:19:50,022 --> 00:19:54,560 that in years past, it missed nuclear activity in 440 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,529 Syria -- Israel went in and bombed -- and missed 441 00:19:57,529 --> 00:19:59,531 activity in Libya. 442 00:19:59,531 --> 00:20:01,533 It's missed activity in other countries. 443 00:20:01,533 --> 00:20:04,069 So how -- are you really, completely confident in 444 00:20:04,069 --> 00:20:06,938 their capabilities now? 445 00:20:06,939 --> 00:20:09,741 Mr. Earnest: I would say, Paul, I'm not aware of each 446 00:20:09,741 --> 00:20:11,710 of those specific instances; presumably the IAEA is. 447 00:20:11,710 --> 00:20:14,479 But I think you're illustrating precisely why 448 00:20:14,479 --> 00:20:16,548 the President insisted on the most intrusive set of 449 00:20:16,548 --> 00:20:18,750 inspections that have ever been imposed on a country's 450 00:20:18,750 --> 00:20:19,818 nuclear program. 451 00:20:19,818 --> 00:20:23,121 It means that IAEA inspectors will have access 452 00:20:23,121 --> 00:20:25,457 to the Iran nuclear program. 453 00:20:25,457 --> 00:20:27,359 That's unprecedented. 454 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,495 It's unlike any kind of access that the IAEA has 455 00:20:30,495 --> 00:20:33,298 ever had to any other country's nuclear program. 456 00:20:33,298 --> 00:20:37,469 IAEA inspectors will have access to Iran's uranium mines. 457 00:20:37,469 --> 00:20:40,072 They'll have access to Iran's uranium mills. 458 00:20:40,072 --> 00:20:42,506 They'll have access to Iran's declared nuclear sites. 459 00:20:42,507 --> 00:20:45,377 They'll have access to Iran's facilities where they 460 00:20:45,377 --> 00:20:46,745 manufacture centrifuges. 461 00:20:46,745 --> 00:20:50,549 They'll have the ability to monitor those sites. 462 00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:52,951 They'll have the ability to confirm that the centrifuges 463 00:20:52,951 --> 00:20:57,055 that need to be taken out of operation are done so and 464 00:20:57,055 --> 00:20:58,690 are effectively locked up. 465 00:20:58,690 --> 00:21:01,727 This is the kind of access that the IAEA has never had 466 00:21:01,727 --> 00:21:03,528 to a country's nuclear program. 467 00:21:03,528 --> 00:21:08,100 And it's why we continue to be confident that this deal 468 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:10,101 will prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon 469 00:21:10,102 --> 00:21:12,270 -- because it shuts down every pathway that Iran has 470 00:21:12,270 --> 00:21:13,472 to developing a nuclear weapon. 471 00:21:13,472 --> 00:21:15,474 The Press: Speaking of access, it was revealed in 472 00:21:15,474 --> 00:21:18,644 the hearing today that I think the IAEA will have to 473 00:21:18,644 --> 00:21:24,049 rely on Iran to provide samples from certain 474 00:21:24,049 --> 00:21:26,184 facilities -- one, Parchin, was named. 475 00:21:26,184 --> 00:21:27,285 Is that correct? 476 00:21:27,285 --> 00:21:31,156 The IAEA will have to rely on Iran to provide access to 477 00:21:33,859 --> 00:21:36,662 samples at Parchin and other sites for its investigation? 478 00:21:36,662 --> 00:21:38,797 Mr. Earnest: Well, for a detail like that, I'd refer 479 00:21:38,797 --> 00:21:41,466 you to the IAEA about this. 480 00:21:41,466 --> 00:21:42,501 I'll see if I can follow up. 481 00:21:42,501 --> 00:21:45,337 I mean, it's not as if the IAEA can enter Parchin 482 00:21:45,337 --> 00:21:46,605 through force. 483 00:21:46,605 --> 00:21:49,274 But contingent on this agreement -- and this is why 484 00:21:49,274 --> 00:21:52,010 this is important -- there was a lot of time spent in 485 00:21:52,010 --> 00:21:55,981 here about whether or not the international community 486 00:21:55,981 --> 00:22:00,085 would insist that Iran address the potential 487 00:22:00,085 --> 00:22:02,821 military dimensions of their nuclear program in the 488 00:22:02,821 --> 00:22:04,322 context of this deal. 489 00:22:04,322 --> 00:22:06,323 And there was a lot of suspicion -- a lot of 490 00:22:06,324 --> 00:22:08,660 Republicans stood up and said that this had to be 491 00:22:08,660 --> 00:22:10,696 part of any agreement. 492 00:22:10,696 --> 00:22:13,098 That's exactly what we've delivered in this instance. 493 00:22:13,098 --> 00:22:15,867 We have delivered Iran's commitment that they will 494 00:22:15,867 --> 00:22:18,870 provide the IAEA with the needed access and 495 00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:21,907 information that those nuclear experts need to be 496 00:22:21,907 --> 00:22:24,509 able to finalize their report on the potential 497 00:22:24,509 --> 00:22:27,112 military dimensions of Iran's nuclear program, and 498 00:22:27,112 --> 00:22:29,648 that access and information needs to be provided in 499 00:22:29,648 --> 00:22:31,116 advance of October 15th. 500 00:22:31,116 --> 00:22:33,185 If I would have stood here in late June and said we're 501 00:22:33,185 --> 00:22:35,352 going to have all of the -- the IAEA is going to have 502 00:22:35,353 --> 00:22:37,622 all of the information and access they need to resolve 503 00:22:37,622 --> 00:22:40,892 questions about -- or to write their report about 504 00:22:40,892 --> 00:22:44,663 Iran's nuclear program by October 15th, you would have 505 00:22:44,663 --> 00:22:47,232 looked at me skeptically. 506 00:22:47,232 --> 00:22:48,600 That's the charitable way to say it. 507 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:49,266 Not that you aren't now. 508 00:22:49,267 --> 00:22:50,068 (laughter) 509 00:22:50,068 --> 00:22:51,636 The Press: So just to circle back -- 510 00:22:51,636 --> 00:22:52,803 Mr. Earnest: But that's part of your job description. 511 00:22:52,804 --> 00:22:54,272 The point is - 512 00:22:54,272 --> 00:22:55,540 (laughter) 513 00:22:55,540 --> 00:22:57,576 -- I don't take it personally. 514 00:22:57,576 --> 00:23:00,779 The point is that this is a situation in which our 515 00:23:00,779 --> 00:23:04,649 critics, prior to the deal being written, criticized 516 00:23:04,649 --> 00:23:07,218 the deal before it was revealed because they were 517 00:23:07,219 --> 00:23:09,588 skeptical that it was ever going to reach this bar. 518 00:23:09,588 --> 00:23:11,590 But yet that's exactly what we've done. 519 00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:15,427 We've delivered even ahead of the expectations of our 520 00:23:15,427 --> 00:23:17,428 most ardent critics in this regard. 521 00:23:17,429 --> 00:23:19,531 The Press: So just to circle back, the fact that the IAEA 522 00:23:19,531 --> 00:23:20,966 -- and I encourage you to look at these other 523 00:23:20,966 --> 00:23:22,501 instances which you say you're not familiar with -- 524 00:23:22,501 --> 00:23:26,037 if they missed Syria, if they missed Libya, if they 525 00:23:26,037 --> 00:23:29,808 missed Iraq, going years back, you're still confident 526 00:23:29,808 --> 00:23:31,943 that this time it's going to be different? 527 00:23:31,943 --> 00:23:34,146 Mr. Earnest: What I'm confident of is that in 528 00:23:34,146 --> 00:23:36,715 those instances that you've described, the IAEA 529 00:23:36,715 --> 00:23:39,451 investigators didn't have the kind of access to those 530 00:23:39,451 --> 00:23:42,521 countries' nuclear programs that they will to Iran's. 531 00:23:42,521 --> 00:23:45,056 And that's why we can be confident that because of 532 00:23:45,056 --> 00:23:48,360 this tough inspections regime, that we can shut 533 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:50,361 down every pathway that Iran has to nuclear weapon, 534 00:23:50,362 --> 00:23:53,031 including the covert path. 535 00:23:53,031 --> 00:23:54,633 Bill. 536 00:23:54,633 --> 00:23:55,600 The Press: Secretary Moniz told the Senate Foreign 537 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,802 Relations Committee today that the U.S. 538 00:23:56,802 --> 00:24:01,273 does not have a copy of the agreement between the IAEA 539 00:24:01,273 --> 00:24:06,911 and Iran on the chain of custody for the fissile 540 00:24:06,912 --> 00:24:09,614 material that will be moved out of their program under 541 00:24:09,614 --> 00:24:10,949 the agreement. 542 00:24:10,949 --> 00:24:14,019 Without that, and without knowing that, how can we 543 00:24:14,019 --> 00:24:17,255 trust what is going to happen? 544 00:24:17,255 --> 00:24:21,026 Mr. Earnest: Bill, we do know what the agreement is 545 00:24:21,026 --> 00:24:22,994 between Iran and the IAEA. 546 00:24:22,994 --> 00:24:25,530 It's not something that I can discuss in this setting, 547 00:24:25,530 --> 00:24:28,633 but it is something that can be discussed in classified 548 00:24:28,633 --> 00:24:30,635 setting between senior members of the 549 00:24:30,635 --> 00:24:31,803 administration and members of Congress. 550 00:24:31,803 --> 00:24:32,737 The Press: The Secretary said he didn't have a copy 551 00:24:32,737 --> 00:24:35,106 of it, he doesn't know. 552 00:24:35,106 --> 00:24:37,642 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, there are two different -- 553 00:24:37,642 --> 00:24:39,644 you're actually conflating two different things that 554 00:24:39,644 --> 00:24:40,645 are important. 555 00:24:40,645 --> 00:24:42,647 There's one thing between having a copy of the 556 00:24:42,647 --> 00:24:44,649 document and knowing exactly what's in it. 557 00:24:44,649 --> 00:24:47,252 The United States and our negotiating partners -- all 558 00:24:47,252 --> 00:24:49,855 the P5+1 -- are aware of those agreements. 559 00:24:49,855 --> 00:24:51,323 And U.S. 560 00:24:51,323 --> 00:24:53,425 officials are prepared to brief members of Congress in 561 00:24:53,425 --> 00:24:56,027 a classified setting about the details about 562 00:24:56,027 --> 00:24:57,028 those arrangements. 563 00:24:57,028 --> 00:24:59,831 The Press: Members of Congress are also upset that the 564 00:24:59,831 --> 00:25:02,500 U.N. vote was allowed to proceed before they had a chance to 565 00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:05,203 fully review the document. 566 00:25:05,203 --> 00:25:09,708 They refer back to Secretary Kerry's testimony yesterday 567 00:25:09,708 --> 00:25:12,744 which suggests that once the U.N. 568 00:25:12,744 --> 00:25:16,081 has acted, for all practical purposes international 569 00:25:16,081 --> 00:25:18,483 sanctions are off no matter what the U.S. 570 00:25:18,483 --> 00:25:19,484 Congress does. 571 00:25:19,484 --> 00:25:23,288 And in fact, that would make it very difficult to further 572 00:25:23,288 --> 00:25:27,726 sanction Iran if there were ever any falling away from 573 00:25:27,726 --> 00:25:29,594 the agreement. 574 00:25:29,594 --> 00:25:31,329 Mr. Earnest: Well, the first thing that we have to 575 00:25:31,329 --> 00:25:34,832 recognize is that the sanctions are not off until 576 00:25:34,833 --> 00:25:37,335 Iran has reduced their stockpile by 98 percent, 577 00:25:37,335 --> 00:25:40,372 until they have disconnected 13,000 centrifuges, until 578 00:25:40,372 --> 00:25:43,141 they have rendered harmless their heavy-water reactor at 579 00:25:43,141 --> 00:25:45,977 Arak, and until they have complied with the IAEA's 580 00:25:45,977 --> 00:25:49,014 request for access and information to determine the 581 00:25:49,014 --> 00:25:52,383 possible military dimensions of Iran's nuclear program. 582 00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:56,154 So that is what's going to be required for this deal to 583 00:25:56,154 --> 00:25:56,821 move forward. 584 00:25:56,821 --> 00:25:57,254 And again -- 585 00:25:57,255 --> 00:25:58,123 The Press: A of which they're expected to 586 00:25:58,123 --> 00:25:58,990 do in six months? 587 00:25:58,990 --> 00:26:03,261 Mr. Earnest: Well, actually, the information and access 588 00:26:03,261 --> 00:26:06,764 about the potential military dimensions of Iran's nuclear 589 00:26:06,765 --> 00:26:08,733 program is actually something that has to be 590 00:26:08,733 --> 00:26:10,936 provide in 90 days, in even less than six months. 591 00:26:10,936 --> 00:26:15,072 But that's why we continue to be confident that -- and 592 00:26:15,073 --> 00:26:17,475 we'll have verification measures in place to ensure 593 00:26:17,475 --> 00:26:20,544 that they are complying with the terms of this agreement. 594 00:26:20,545 --> 00:26:22,714 If they don't, this deal won't move forward. 595 00:26:22,714 --> 00:26:24,716 But it's not going to move forward in any instance 596 00:26:24,716 --> 00:26:27,118 until all of those steps and many more have been taken 597 00:26:27,118 --> 00:26:28,285 by Iran. 598 00:26:28,286 --> 00:26:29,054 Jon. 599 00:26:29,054 --> 00:26:30,488 The Press: Another subject. 600 00:26:30,488 --> 00:26:34,693 The House is poised to pass the Enforce the Law for 601 00:26:34,693 --> 00:26:35,994 Sanctuary Cities Act. 602 00:26:35,994 --> 00:26:37,861 I saw you put out a statement of administration 603 00:26:37,862 --> 00:26:41,466 policy that the President would veto this bill. 604 00:26:41,466 --> 00:26:42,300 Mr. Earnest: That's correct. 605 00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:45,937 The Press: Can I understand, on the underlying issues, 606 00:26:45,937 --> 00:26:47,938 does the White House have a concern about so-called 607 00:26:47,939 --> 00:26:52,410 sanctuary cities and the notion that a locality can 608 00:26:52,410 --> 00:26:55,947 decide on its own to basically not enforce the law? 609 00:26:55,947 --> 00:26:58,483 Mr. Earnest: One of the characteristic elements of 610 00:26:58,483 --> 00:27:01,086 our broken immigration system is the significant 611 00:27:01,086 --> 00:27:03,955 challenges that the federal government and federal law 612 00:27:03,955 --> 00:27:06,791 enforcement officials have had in enforcing the law by 613 00:27:06,791 --> 00:27:09,394 working closely with local law enforcement officials. 614 00:27:09,394 --> 00:27:12,030 And this is something that the United States Congress 615 00:27:12,030 --> 00:27:15,633 had the opportunity to fix in the context of 616 00:27:15,633 --> 00:27:17,902 comprehensive immigration reform legislation. 617 00:27:17,902 --> 00:27:20,472 But this fix was blocked by Republicans in the 618 00:27:20,472 --> 00:27:21,773 House of Representatives. 619 00:27:21,773 --> 00:27:24,309 That's why the President acted on his own; and in 620 00:27:24,309 --> 00:27:27,512 acting on his own, the President actually scrapped 621 00:27:27,512 --> 00:27:28,780 the Secure Communities Program. 622 00:27:28,780 --> 00:27:31,049 This was the program that previously codified the 623 00:27:31,049 --> 00:27:33,685 relationship between the federal government and local 624 00:27:33,685 --> 00:27:36,120 law enforcement that actually caused a number of 625 00:27:36,121 --> 00:27:38,256 cities to declare themselves sanctuary cities. 626 00:27:38,256 --> 00:27:40,792 What the President directed his team to move forward on 627 00:27:40,792 --> 00:27:42,793 is the implementation of something called the 628 00:27:42,794 --> 00:27:46,331 Priority Enforcement Program that would allow state and 629 00:27:46,331 --> 00:27:49,801 -- state, local, and federal law enforcement officials to 630 00:27:49,801 --> 00:27:51,803 better coordinate and better cooperate. 631 00:27:51,803 --> 00:27:55,407 And we're starting to see cities sign up for and 632 00:27:55,407 --> 00:27:58,676 engage in conversations about establishing that program. 633 00:27:58,676 --> 00:28:03,247 And it will -- we believe that it will allow us to 634 00:28:03,248 --> 00:28:07,719 make better progress in achieving what the President 635 00:28:07,719 --> 00:28:11,189 believes should be our top priority when it comes to 636 00:28:11,189 --> 00:28:13,725 immigration reform, which is making sure that we're 637 00:28:13,725 --> 00:28:16,494 concentrating our limited law enforcement resources on 638 00:28:16,494 --> 00:28:18,495 those individuals who pose a threat to public safety. 639 00:28:18,496 --> 00:28:20,865 The Press: And do you believe that even with the 640 00:28:20,865 --> 00:28:23,435 fix -- what you call a fix that you've been able to do 641 00:28:23,435 --> 00:28:26,004 through executive action -- is it still a 642 00:28:26,004 --> 00:28:28,505 significant problem? 643 00:28:28,506 --> 00:28:31,943 You see certainly -- I mean, this is why the House is 644 00:28:31,943 --> 00:28:33,078 acting on it today. 645 00:28:33,078 --> 00:28:35,647 There's a belief that you have basically cities that 646 00:28:35,647 --> 00:28:38,616 have just declared we're not going to abide by the law. 647 00:28:38,616 --> 00:28:41,352 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jon, we do know what would make it 648 00:28:41,352 --> 00:28:45,090 better is if we had the opportunity to further ramp 649 00:28:45,090 --> 00:28:48,893 up interior enforcement of dangerous individuals; if we 650 00:28:48,893 --> 00:28:50,895 could provide law enforcement officials with 651 00:28:50,895 --> 00:28:52,897 additional tools, including enhanced penalties for 652 00:28:52,897 --> 00:28:55,133 repeat immigration violators; if we could 653 00:28:55,133 --> 00:28:57,135 increase the penalties on those who engage in human 654 00:28:57,135 --> 00:29:00,438 trafficking and document fraud; and if we could make 655 00:29:00,438 --> 00:29:03,274 sure that those individuals who are convicted of 656 00:29:03,274 --> 00:29:07,111 repeated gang-related offenses or repeated drunk 657 00:29:07,112 --> 00:29:09,447 driving offenses, that those individuals would 658 00:29:09,447 --> 00:29:10,715 be deportable. 659 00:29:10,715 --> 00:29:12,716 All of those were things that were included in the 660 00:29:12,717 --> 00:29:14,719 comprehensive immigration reform bill that 661 00:29:14,719 --> 00:29:15,720 Republicans blocked. 662 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,823 So Marco Rubio made this expression famous. 663 00:29:18,823 --> 00:29:22,093 But he was right about this, that the closest thing we 664 00:29:22,093 --> 00:29:24,129 have to amnesty in this country is the current 665 00:29:24,129 --> 00:29:25,196 broken immigration system. 666 00:29:25,196 --> 00:29:27,197 And that's the current broken immigration system 667 00:29:27,198 --> 00:29:31,035 that Republicans refuse to fix and that Republicans, by 668 00:29:31,035 --> 00:29:33,404 refusing to fix, have perpetuated. 669 00:29:33,404 --> 00:29:35,707 So when it comes to law enforcement and making sure 670 00:29:35,707 --> 00:29:37,775 that we are cracking down and focusing on those 671 00:29:37,775 --> 00:29:41,346 individuals who pose a threat to public safety, 672 00:29:41,346 --> 00:29:43,715 it's the President who has done far more than anything 673 00:29:43,715 --> 00:29:46,083 Congress has done to try to protect our communities. 674 00:29:46,084 --> 00:29:48,086 But there is more that should be done and more that 675 00:29:48,086 --> 00:29:50,889 Congress needs to do to put forward a comprehensive 676 00:29:50,889 --> 00:29:52,890 proposal to address many of these challenges. 677 00:29:52,891 --> 00:29:54,893 The Press: And then quickly, one other subject. 678 00:29:54,893 --> 00:29:56,895 Can you just bring me up to speed -- what is the 679 00:29:56,895 --> 00:29:59,998 President's position on the issue of transgender people 680 00:29:59,998 --> 00:30:01,332 serving in the military? 681 00:30:01,332 --> 00:30:05,637 Mr. Earnest: Jon, as you know, the military last week 682 00:30:05,637 --> 00:30:10,041 announced a review to examine this exact question. 683 00:30:10,041 --> 00:30:15,480 And I know that Secretary Carter and others have 684 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:20,518 indicated that individuals who are capable of serving 685 00:30:20,518 --> 00:30:22,687 their country, that they fit all of the requirements, 686 00:30:22,687 --> 00:30:28,059 shouldn't be prevented from doing so based on these sort 687 00:30:28,059 --> 00:30:29,194 of gender-related questions. 688 00:30:29,194 --> 00:30:32,597 Now, the key here is implementing them, and 689 00:30:32,597 --> 00:30:36,033 implementing them in a way that the military can move 690 00:30:36,034 --> 00:30:38,503 forward with their critically important mission. 691 00:30:38,503 --> 00:30:41,406 That's exactly what the military is studying right now. 692 00:30:41,406 --> 00:30:43,441 The Press: But I think you -- I think there's an answer 693 00:30:43,441 --> 00:30:44,442 in there. 694 00:30:44,442 --> 00:30:46,844 But does the President believe that transgender 695 00:30:46,844 --> 00:30:48,446 people have a right to serve in the military? 696 00:30:48,446 --> 00:30:51,582 That the military's effective ban on transgender 697 00:30:51,583 --> 00:30:54,319 people serving should be lifted? 698 00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:55,320 Mr. Earnest: Well, we certainly welcome the 699 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,556 decision that was announced by the Secretary of Defense 700 00:30:58,556 --> 00:31:02,126 to review how they could implement a change to 701 00:31:02,126 --> 00:31:02,927 that policy. 702 00:31:02,927 --> 00:31:04,294 The Press: I'm not asking about the review. 703 00:31:04,295 --> 00:31:05,563 But he believes that ultimately -- it's a 704 00:31:05,563 --> 00:31:07,999 question of how to make it -- how to lift it. 705 00:31:07,999 --> 00:31:09,801 I mean, right now you have effectively the military 706 00:31:09,801 --> 00:31:14,339 defines transgender as a mental disorder. 707 00:31:14,339 --> 00:31:18,076 So that should end, that the effective ban should 708 00:31:18,076 --> 00:31:20,478 be lifted? 709 00:31:20,478 --> 00:31:24,415 It isn't a question of how that ban will be implemented? 710 00:31:24,415 --> 00:31:26,283 Mr. Earnest: That's not a -- I guess my point is that's 711 00:31:26,284 --> 00:31:27,785 not an irrelevant question when you're the 712 00:31:27,785 --> 00:31:29,821 Commander-in-Chief; that the practicality of implementing 713 00:31:29,821 --> 00:31:31,555 this policy makes a difference. 714 00:31:31,556 --> 00:31:34,592 And so that's exactly what the Department of Defense is 715 00:31:34,592 --> 00:31:35,593 looking at. 716 00:31:35,593 --> 00:31:37,595 I noted in their statement that they have said that 717 00:31:37,595 --> 00:31:40,798 they would conduct this review with a bias in favor 718 00:31:40,798 --> 00:31:42,300 of changing this policy. 719 00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:44,302 The President certainly supports that approach. 720 00:31:44,302 --> 00:31:46,303 The Press: And that people who are transgender should 721 00:31:46,304 --> 00:31:47,305 be able to serve? 722 00:31:47,305 --> 00:31:49,274 Mr. Earnest: Well, this is exactly what the Department 723 00:31:49,274 --> 00:31:51,275 of Defense is looking into, and the President is 724 00:31:51,276 --> 00:31:53,578 supportive of them conducting that review. 725 00:31:53,578 --> 00:31:53,945 The Press: But the question is, should they have a right 726 00:31:53,945 --> 00:31:54,579 to serve? 727 00:31:54,579 --> 00:31:56,114 It sounds like you're giving me an answer, but I just 728 00:31:56,114 --> 00:31:59,651 want to -- Mr. Earnest: Well, I'm doing my best. 729 00:31:59,651 --> 00:32:02,654 And what is relevant here is the way in which the policy 730 00:32:02,654 --> 00:32:04,822 can be successfully implemented. 731 00:32:04,822 --> 00:32:06,924 And that's exactly what the Department of Defense 732 00:32:06,924 --> 00:32:08,026 is reviewing. 733 00:32:08,026 --> 00:32:09,994 But they're reviewing the implementation of this 734 00:32:09,994 --> 00:32:13,430 policy with an eye toward, with a bias in favor of, 735 00:32:13,431 --> 00:32:14,432 lifting the ban. 736 00:32:14,432 --> 00:32:16,434 And the President certainly does believe that that's the 737 00:32:16,434 --> 00:32:17,435 right approach. 738 00:32:17,435 --> 00:32:19,437 The Press: How soon should that be done? 739 00:32:19,437 --> 00:32:21,438 Mr. Earnest: I think they've set a timeline for 740 00:32:21,439 --> 00:32:22,440 conducting this review. 741 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,442 I don't remember what it is off the top of my head, but 742 00:32:24,442 --> 00:32:25,443 you can check with them. 743 00:32:25,443 --> 00:32:27,445 But I know that they have -- it's a 60 -- I think it's a 744 00:32:27,445 --> 00:32:28,679 90- or 120-day review. 745 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,348 But they can get you that detail. 746 00:32:30,348 --> 00:32:31,282 Suzanne. 747 00:32:31,282 --> 00:32:32,817 The Press: I want to go back to ISIS. 748 00:32:32,817 --> 00:32:35,253 So the FBI Director, James Comey, said not only that 749 00:32:35,253 --> 00:32:37,754 ISIS is a greater threat to the United States than 750 00:32:37,755 --> 00:32:39,824 al Qaeda, but he said specifically because they 751 00:32:39,824 --> 00:32:43,928 use encrypted communications that the FBI doesn't have 752 00:32:43,928 --> 00:32:45,463 access to. 753 00:32:45,463 --> 00:32:46,898 They just cannot access this. 754 00:32:46,898 --> 00:32:49,801 And he describes it as not only trying to find needles 755 00:32:49,801 --> 00:32:52,602 in a haystack but invisible needles that they just -- 756 00:32:52,603 --> 00:32:54,706 because of the way that they're communicating. 757 00:32:54,706 --> 00:32:57,442 Can you talk about that specific challenge and how 758 00:32:57,442 --> 00:33:00,178 is it that the United States is dealing with that in 759 00:33:00,178 --> 00:33:01,446 light of that problem? 760 00:33:01,446 --> 00:33:04,615 Mr. Earnest: Well, Suzanne, this is a thorny political 761 00:33:04,615 --> 00:33:08,186 issue -- or a thorny policy issue, I should say. 762 00:33:08,186 --> 00:33:11,356 And here's the reason it's complicated. 763 00:33:11,356 --> 00:33:14,158 The President is a strong advocate of robust 764 00:33:14,158 --> 00:33:20,697 encryption, that robust encryption does protect the 765 00:33:20,698 --> 00:33:25,269 privacy and security of typical Americans. 766 00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:29,474 And they should have access to -- when they're using 767 00:33:29,474 --> 00:33:31,341 technology, they should have access to technology that 768 00:33:31,342 --> 00:33:33,411 protects their privacy. 769 00:33:33,411 --> 00:33:38,383 At the same time, there's a legitimate public interest 770 00:33:38,383 --> 00:33:41,018 -- an interest that's even shared by many tech 771 00:33:41,018 --> 00:33:43,755 executives -- in ensuring that that encryption 772 00:33:43,755 --> 00:33:47,525 technology can't essentially aid and abet somebody who 773 00:33:47,525 --> 00:33:49,527 wants to carry out a terrible act of violence. 774 00:33:49,527 --> 00:33:53,364 So that is essentially the question that's 775 00:33:53,364 --> 00:33:55,133 before policymakers. 776 00:33:55,133 --> 00:33:58,403 And it's a question that law enforcement officials, like 777 00:33:58,403 --> 00:34:01,773 Director Comey, have to confront in a very real way. 778 00:34:01,773 --> 00:34:04,074 And so this will be a policy that we'll have to work through. 779 00:34:04,075 --> 00:34:06,244 The President has discussed this issue quite a bit. 780 00:34:06,244 --> 00:34:09,980 I think in terms of understanding the 781 00:34:09,981 --> 00:34:11,983 President's position on this, I would encourage you 782 00:34:11,983 --> 00:34:13,985 to take a look at the interview that he conducted 783 00:34:13,985 --> 00:34:15,286 with Re/code. 784 00:34:15,286 --> 00:34:17,288 The President was in California for a 785 00:34:17,288 --> 00:34:19,456 cybersecurity summit that his administration convened 786 00:34:19,456 --> 00:34:20,458 at Stanford University. 787 00:34:20,458 --> 00:34:24,295 And after that summit, he had a conversation with 788 00:34:24,295 --> 00:34:26,697 Re/code, in which they discussed this policy issue. 789 00:34:26,697 --> 00:34:29,467 The Press: So is Comey's hands tied essentially? 790 00:34:29,467 --> 00:34:33,137 The FBI's hands tied in terms of trying to figure 791 00:34:33,137 --> 00:34:35,473 out where the ISIS militants are because of the 792 00:34:35,473 --> 00:34:37,375 encrypted communications? 793 00:34:37,375 --> 00:34:39,243 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think what Director Comey would 794 00:34:39,243 --> 00:34:43,915 hasten to add to that declaration is that our law 795 00:34:43,915 --> 00:34:46,683 enforcement officials here in this country that are 796 00:34:46,684 --> 00:34:51,222 responsible for keeping us safe work closely with our 797 00:34:51,222 --> 00:34:53,825 intelligence community, with our homeland security 798 00:34:53,824 --> 00:34:58,395 community to deploy a range of measures to protect the 799 00:34:58,396 --> 00:34:59,397 American people. 800 00:34:59,397 --> 00:35:02,099 And it requires a lot of work. 801 00:35:02,099 --> 00:35:03,768 It requires a lot of expertise. 802 00:35:03,768 --> 00:35:05,770 It requires a lot of dedication. 803 00:35:05,770 --> 00:35:07,872 But our men and women in law enforcement and the intel 804 00:35:07,872 --> 00:35:10,374 community and in homeland security are up to the task. 805 00:35:10,374 --> 00:35:12,810 And we're proud of the work that they do. 806 00:35:12,810 --> 00:35:13,377 April. 807 00:35:13,377 --> 00:35:15,346 The Press: Josh, two questions. 808 00:35:15,346 --> 00:35:17,915 First, I want to go back to Sandra Bland. 809 00:35:17,915 --> 00:35:21,486 Is the Justice Department -- is the White House aware of 810 00:35:21,486 --> 00:35:23,187 anything by the Justice Department -- if the Justice 811 00:35:23,187 --> 00:35:26,656 Department is looking at the issue of Sandra Bland right now? 812 00:35:26,657 --> 00:35:30,394 Because when there are cases similar to this, we hear 813 00:35:30,394 --> 00:35:32,830 that they are watching before they step in. 814 00:35:32,830 --> 00:35:34,832 Have you heard anything from the Justice Department that 815 00:35:34,832 --> 00:35:37,634 they are looking at the activities -- specifically 816 00:35:37,635 --> 00:35:40,505 last night, hearing that there's now going to be a 817 00:35:40,505 --> 00:35:43,641 new autopsy of Sandra Bland? 818 00:35:43,641 --> 00:35:45,543 Mr. Earnest: April, I'd refer to the Department of 819 00:35:45,543 --> 00:35:47,178 Justice for exactly what they're doing in this 820 00:35:47,178 --> 00:35:48,679 specific matter. 821 00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:51,249 The Press: All right. 822 00:35:51,249 --> 00:35:52,450 But you don't know anything about them just at least 823 00:35:52,450 --> 00:35:54,585 just watching the case? 824 00:35:54,585 --> 00:35:56,587 Mr. Earnest: I understand that they are monitoring the 825 00:35:56,587 --> 00:35:59,724 situation, but it's the local prosecutor right now 826 00:35:59,724 --> 00:36:01,826 that is conducting the investigation. 827 00:36:01,826 --> 00:36:03,561 The Department of Justice is aware that that local 828 00:36:03,561 --> 00:36:06,230 investigation is ongoing. 829 00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:08,165 And I'm not aware that the Department of Justice has 830 00:36:08,165 --> 00:36:10,167 opened their own investigation, but that's 831 00:36:10,167 --> 00:36:12,169 obviously something that they would announce. 832 00:36:12,169 --> 00:36:14,171 The Press: So just monitoring -- okay, great. 833 00:36:14,171 --> 00:36:16,173 Now, on the issue of intelligence, and in 834 00:36:16,173 --> 00:36:17,908 listening to the briefing, understanding what happened, 835 00:36:17,909 --> 00:36:20,478 with Comey talking about the needle in the haystack -- on 836 00:36:20,478 --> 00:36:23,514 issues of intelligence, as the years have progressed 837 00:36:23,514 --> 00:36:26,083 and passed, there are different phases and layers 838 00:36:26,083 --> 00:36:28,352 of how we have to deal with how this nation and how this 839 00:36:28,352 --> 00:36:30,721 government is dealing with threats here in the United 840 00:36:30,721 --> 00:36:32,156 States and abroad. 841 00:36:32,156 --> 00:36:34,959 How would you rank the intelligence when it comes 842 00:36:34,959 --> 00:36:37,662 to, here in the United States, trying to find that 843 00:36:37,662 --> 00:36:41,064 needle in the haystack, and then also trying to find out 844 00:36:41,065 --> 00:36:42,767 about other countries, like Iran? 845 00:36:42,767 --> 00:36:46,470 During the Bush years, there was faulty intelligence. 846 00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:48,538 Have things changed? 847 00:36:48,539 --> 00:36:50,875 Has the intelligence gotten better when it comes to the 848 00:36:50,875 --> 00:36:53,477 global fight against terror on the intelligence front, 849 00:36:53,477 --> 00:36:56,913 specifically when you had to bring in -- other countries 850 00:36:56,914 --> 00:36:58,149 had to ask for an Iran deal? 851 00:36:58,149 --> 00:37:00,151 And then, when you hear Comey saying, it's like a 852 00:37:00,151 --> 00:37:01,452 needle in a haystack, how would you rank our 853 00:37:01,452 --> 00:37:05,156 intelligence both here at home and abroad? 854 00:37:05,156 --> 00:37:07,625 Mr. Earnest: Well, I guess I'd say a couple of things 855 00:37:07,625 --> 00:37:08,092 about this. 856 00:37:08,092 --> 00:37:11,596 The first is, there are tremendous capabilities that 857 00:37:11,596 --> 00:37:19,203 our intelligence community use to keep us safe and to 858 00:37:19,203 --> 00:37:23,107 protect our interests around the globe. 859 00:37:23,107 --> 00:37:27,845 We live in a world in which our adversaries and, in some 860 00:37:27,845 --> 00:37:32,250 cases, our enemies are very inventive and creative and 861 00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:39,523 persistent in trying to develop new ways to evade 862 00:37:39,523 --> 00:37:42,059 detection and carry out acts of violence. 863 00:37:42,059 --> 00:37:44,061 And that's why it's critically important that 864 00:37:44,061 --> 00:37:46,664 our intelligence community remain vigilant about 865 00:37:46,664 --> 00:37:47,665 the threat. 866 00:37:47,665 --> 00:37:48,666 They do. 867 00:37:48,666 --> 00:37:50,334 And these are seasoned experts. 868 00:37:50,334 --> 00:37:53,471 And they are themselves creative in taking the steps 869 00:37:53,471 --> 00:37:55,673 that they believe are necessary to try to keep us safe. 870 00:37:55,673 --> 00:37:57,674 The other thing that is critically important to our 871 00:37:57,675 --> 00:38:00,945 security is the effective relationship that our 872 00:38:00,945 --> 00:38:03,881 intelligence community has with intelligence services 873 00:38:03,881 --> 00:38:06,783 around the world, and that by sharing information and 874 00:38:06,784 --> 00:38:10,655 coordinating our efforts with other countries' 875 00:38:10,655 --> 00:38:13,791 intelligence capabilities, we can significantly enhance 876 00:38:13,791 --> 00:38:14,792 our own security. 877 00:38:14,792 --> 00:38:18,162 And this is true -- we talk a lot about the important 878 00:38:18,162 --> 00:38:20,163 security relationship that exists between the United 879 00:38:20,164 --> 00:38:21,565 States and Israel. 880 00:38:21,565 --> 00:38:23,834 Intelligence-sharing between the United States and Israel 881 00:38:23,834 --> 00:38:24,835 is significant. 882 00:38:24,835 --> 00:38:27,638 And that is certainly something that contributes 883 00:38:27,638 --> 00:38:29,273 to our national security. 884 00:38:29,273 --> 00:38:32,710 In terms of -- I think the other thing I would do, 885 00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:35,813 April, for this question, I'd refer you to the Office 886 00:38:35,813 --> 00:38:38,983 of the Director of National Intelligence. 887 00:38:38,983 --> 00:38:42,887 This is a position that was created near the end of the 888 00:38:42,887 --> 00:38:45,690 Bush administration that sought to make the 889 00:38:45,690 --> 00:38:47,992 communication of intelligence to the 890 00:38:47,992 --> 00:38:51,295 President more effective. 891 00:38:51,295 --> 00:38:53,364 There are a variety of government agencies that 892 00:38:53,364 --> 00:38:56,567 have an intelligence mission. 893 00:38:56,567 --> 00:38:58,869 And it's the responsibility of the Director of National 894 00:38:58,869 --> 00:39:01,305 Intelligence to try to coordinate that mission to 895 00:39:01,305 --> 00:39:03,339 make sure that each agency that's engaged in some of 896 00:39:03,340 --> 00:39:07,511 this work is leveraging their particular expertise 897 00:39:07,511 --> 00:39:11,849 to maximize the benefits to the country and to our 898 00:39:11,849 --> 00:39:13,084 country's decision-makers. 899 00:39:13,084 --> 00:39:15,419 But obviously the Director of National Intelligence can 900 00:39:15,419 --> 00:39:16,721 tell you a little bit more about that. 901 00:39:16,721 --> 00:39:18,589 The Press: And lastly, how should the average American 902 00:39:18,589 --> 00:39:22,793 take the information from Comey saying, looking for 903 00:39:22,793 --> 00:39:27,698 the lone wolf, or possible threats like a needle in 904 00:39:27,698 --> 00:39:28,632 the haystack? 905 00:39:28,632 --> 00:39:31,135 That leaves some people uneasy. 906 00:39:31,135 --> 00:39:33,237 How is the average American supposed to digest 907 00:39:33,237 --> 00:39:35,306 that information? 908 00:39:35,306 --> 00:39:37,041 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think, April, we've long 909 00:39:37,041 --> 00:39:42,246 acknowledged that one of the most difficult threats to 910 00:39:42,246 --> 00:39:47,718 prevent is a lone wolf attack, and that's because 911 00:39:47,718 --> 00:39:52,256 typically somebody who is a lone wolf is by definition 912 00:39:52,256 --> 00:39:54,959 not conspiring with a large group of individuals, but 913 00:39:54,959 --> 00:40:00,397 rather is acting on their own to take certain steps. 914 00:40:00,397 --> 00:40:06,103 And trying to stop that person before he or she acts 915 00:40:06,103 --> 00:40:10,374 is very challenging, and it's something that our law 916 00:40:10,374 --> 00:40:12,877 enforcement and homeland security officials are very 917 00:40:12,877 --> 00:40:14,445 mindful of. 918 00:40:14,445 --> 00:40:17,448 But they have a variety of measures and steps and 919 00:40:17,448 --> 00:40:22,086 strategies that they can employ to prevent a lone 920 00:40:22,086 --> 00:40:26,490 wolf from acting. 921 00:40:26,490 --> 00:40:29,426 So for some more information about that, I'd refer you to 922 00:40:29,426 --> 00:40:30,427 the FBI. 923 00:40:30,427 --> 00:40:32,496 They have announced just in the last several weeks 924 00:40:32,496 --> 00:40:36,567 arrests of people who could have been -- had they been 925 00:40:36,567 --> 00:40:39,036 able to follow through with their actions -- individuals 926 00:40:39,036 --> 00:40:41,038 who were acting on their own to carry out terrible acts 927 00:40:41,038 --> 00:40:42,039 of violence. 928 00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:44,008 So they can certainly fill you in on their activities. 929 00:40:44,008 --> 00:40:45,276 James. 930 00:40:45,276 --> 00:40:46,042 The Press: Josh, thank you. 931 00:40:46,043 --> 00:40:49,013 Returning to Iran, if we might. 932 00:40:49,013 --> 00:40:51,015 Earlier in this briefing, you were asked about the 933 00:40:51,015 --> 00:40:58,221 prospect of the IAEA being forced to rely on Iran to 934 00:40:58,222 --> 00:41:03,027 provide samples from sensitive sites, a prospect 935 00:41:03,027 --> 00:41:05,863 that seems to be enshrined in the agreement between 936 00:41:05,863 --> 00:41:08,065 Iran and the IAEA. 937 00:41:08,065 --> 00:41:10,034 And you didn't seem to want to address this 938 00:41:10,034 --> 00:41:11,335 very directly. 939 00:41:11,335 --> 00:41:14,572 Rather, you touted the fact that the administration has, 940 00:41:14,572 --> 00:41:17,641 in exceeding the expectations of its critics, 941 00:41:17,641 --> 00:41:20,644 as you put it, delivered Iran's commitment. 942 00:41:20,644 --> 00:41:23,613 I don't think you want to be in the position of 943 00:41:23,614 --> 00:41:25,616 delivering commitments from Iran. 944 00:41:25,616 --> 00:41:26,417 You want to be in the position of delivering 945 00:41:26,417 --> 00:41:28,586 compliance from Iran. 946 00:41:28,586 --> 00:41:32,455 And so I wondered what you can say to us to assure us 947 00:41:32,456 --> 00:41:35,392 that there is not going to be some gaping hole in the 948 00:41:35,392 --> 00:41:38,796 chain of custody where the IAEA's sample evidence 949 00:41:38,796 --> 00:41:39,529 is concerned. 950 00:41:39,530 --> 00:41:42,399 Mr. Earnest: James, I do feel confident in telling 951 00:41:42,399 --> 00:41:44,435 you that this administration, working 952 00:41:44,435 --> 00:41:46,737 closely with the international community, did 953 00:41:46,737 --> 00:41:48,439 deliver Iran's commitment. 954 00:41:48,439 --> 00:41:50,607 And if Iran doesn't follow through on that commitment, 955 00:41:50,608 --> 00:41:54,712 we have a range of steps that we can take to hold 956 00:41:54,712 --> 00:41:56,213 them to account. 957 00:41:56,213 --> 00:41:59,016 That is the essence of this agreement, and that takes a 958 00:41:59,016 --> 00:41:59,984 couple of forms. 959 00:41:59,984 --> 00:42:01,986 The first form is this agreement includes 960 00:42:01,986 --> 00:42:02,987 snapback provisions. 961 00:42:02,987 --> 00:42:05,556 So if we detect that Iran is now following through on 962 00:42:05,556 --> 00:42:08,125 their commitment, we can put the sanctions regime back 963 00:42:08,125 --> 00:42:09,126 in place. 964 00:42:09,126 --> 00:42:12,529 This is the sanctions regime that our most ardent critics 965 00:42:12,529 --> 00:42:16,133 believe and agree has been critically successful. 966 00:42:16,133 --> 00:42:18,736 The other option -- the other fact of the matter is 967 00:42:18,736 --> 00:42:21,004 we continue to have all the options on the table that 968 00:42:21,005 --> 00:42:22,039 the President previously had. 969 00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:24,241 And that includes a military option. 970 00:42:24,241 --> 00:42:26,509 The Press: Can you address the chain of custody issue? 971 00:42:26,510 --> 00:42:28,512 Mr. Earnest: I don't know the details of the chain of 972 00:42:28,512 --> 00:42:29,513 custody issue. 973 00:42:29,513 --> 00:42:34,952 What I can tell you is -- I can tell you that before 974 00:42:34,952 --> 00:42:40,057 Iran receives any sanctions relief under this joint 975 00:42:40,057 --> 00:42:45,395 agreement, they must provide to the IAEA all of the 976 00:42:45,396 --> 00:42:49,233 information and access that the IAEA says they need to 977 00:42:49,233 --> 00:42:51,268 complete their report about the potential military 978 00:42:51,268 --> 00:42:53,270 dimensions of Iran's nuclear program. 979 00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:56,206 So again, I know that our critics are suggesting that 980 00:42:56,206 --> 00:42:58,208 there is some kind of side deal going on. 981 00:42:58,208 --> 00:43:00,678 What I'm suggesting to you is that this is actually a 982 00:43:00,678 --> 00:43:02,680 critically important part of the agreement. 983 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,582 The Press: What it sounds to me, though, is that the 984 00:43:05,582 --> 00:43:09,118 administration wouldn't have a problem with it if the 985 00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:14,091 IAEA is itself content to receive evidence or soil 986 00:43:14,091 --> 00:43:17,294 samples, or what have you, that doesn't have a proper 987 00:43:17,294 --> 00:43:18,929 chain of custody. 988 00:43:18,929 --> 00:43:22,533 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think the IAEA is an international 989 00:43:22,533 --> 00:43:26,270 body of independent nuclear experts that can determine 990 00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:28,973 what access they feel like they need in order to 991 00:43:28,973 --> 00:43:30,741 complete their report. 992 00:43:30,741 --> 00:43:33,677 And what we will all have the opportunity to do is to 993 00:43:33,677 --> 00:43:35,679 read that report after it's been written. 994 00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:37,715 And I'm confident that part of that report will at least 995 00:43:37,715 --> 00:43:40,284 be a description of the kind of access that they needed 996 00:43:40,284 --> 00:43:42,286 and received in order to write the report. 997 00:43:42,286 --> 00:43:45,856 The Press: When Ambassador Rice briefed us yesterday, 998 00:43:45,856 --> 00:43:51,228 we had a colloquy in which she basically stated that 999 00:43:51,228 --> 00:43:54,765 the Congress has received copies of everything that 1000 00:43:54,765 --> 00:43:58,234 the United States is in a position to deliver in terms 1001 00:43:58,235 --> 00:44:01,772 of documentation relating to this deal. 1002 00:44:01,772 --> 00:44:05,042 I think the way she put it was words to the effect of, 1003 00:44:05,042 --> 00:44:07,044 we're not in possession of anything we could give to 1004 00:44:07,044 --> 00:44:09,913 the Congress that we haven't, with respect to 1005 00:44:09,913 --> 00:44:11,915 documentation associated with this deal. 1006 00:44:11,915 --> 00:44:17,054 Is it contemplated that, going forward, by virtue of 1007 00:44:17,054 --> 00:44:19,456 the mechanisms that have been put in place as part of 1008 00:44:19,456 --> 00:44:21,692 the final agreement, there could be new 1009 00:44:21,692 --> 00:44:25,195 documentation generated? 1010 00:44:25,195 --> 00:44:32,002 And if that's true, does the administration commit here, 1011 00:44:32,002 --> 00:44:35,639 now, to continuing to provide Congress with all 1012 00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:38,008 available documentation related to the 1013 00:44:38,008 --> 00:44:39,609 implementation of this deal? 1014 00:44:39,610 --> 00:44:41,445 Mr. Earnest: I'm not aware of any lingering 1015 00:44:41,445 --> 00:44:43,447 documentation that's out there. 1016 00:44:44,948 --> 00:44:47,817 So that's why it's hard to confirm what's essentially 1017 00:44:47,818 --> 00:44:48,819 a hypothetical. 1018 00:44:48,819 --> 00:44:53,023 But what I do know is what Secretary -- I'm sorry, what 1019 00:44:53,023 --> 00:44:55,959 Ambassador Rice said yesterday, which is that all 1020 00:44:55,959 --> 00:44:57,995 of the documents that the United States has in our 1021 00:44:57,995 --> 00:44:59,997 possession from this agreement have been 1022 00:44:59,997 --> 00:45:01,165 forwarded to Congress. 1023 00:45:01,165 --> 00:45:04,368 What I will acknowledge is that some of those documents 1024 00:45:04,368 --> 00:45:07,604 are documents that have not been released publicly 1025 00:45:07,604 --> 00:45:09,673 because they do contain sensitive information. 1026 00:45:09,673 --> 00:45:12,209 But they are all documents that are available for the 1027 00:45:12,209 --> 00:45:14,544 review of every member of the United States Congress. 1028 00:45:14,545 --> 00:45:16,680 There's additional information that the United 1029 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,584 States and our negotiators are aware of that we can, in 1030 00:45:20,584 --> 00:45:24,520 a classified setting, share with members of Congress. 1031 00:45:24,521 --> 00:45:25,889 So there aren't actual documents that we can 1032 00:45:25,889 --> 00:45:27,424 provide, but there's information that's relevant 1033 00:45:27,424 --> 00:45:29,192 to the negotiations. 1034 00:45:29,193 --> 00:45:31,261 And we have committed to sharing as much of that 1035 00:45:31,261 --> 00:45:33,997 information as is deemed necessary by members 1036 00:45:33,997 --> 00:45:36,732 of Congress. 1037 00:45:36,733 --> 00:45:39,670 So that's the position that we're in. 1038 00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:42,406 What I'll say is, that is an ongoing commitment, which is 1039 00:45:42,406 --> 00:45:44,775 that we will continue to provide information and 1040 00:45:44,775 --> 00:45:45,776 answer questions. 1041 00:45:45,776 --> 00:45:50,614 But what we do believe is that Congress is now in 1042 00:45:50,614 --> 00:45:53,984 possession of all of the information that they need 1043 00:45:53,984 --> 00:45:55,986 to evaluate this particular agreement. 1044 00:45:55,986 --> 00:45:57,988 And that's exactly what we expect that they'll do over 1045 00:45:57,988 --> 00:45:59,022 the course of the next 60 days. 1046 00:45:59,022 --> 00:46:00,491 The Press: Final question. 1047 00:46:00,491 --> 00:46:05,529 I want to return to the subjects that Kristen raised. 1048 00:46:05,529 --> 00:46:08,966 In your answer to Kristen, you spoke about the problem 1049 00:46:08,966 --> 00:46:12,336 of what you call violent extremism. 1050 00:46:12,336 --> 00:46:14,437 And we know that a lot of attention has been paid to 1051 00:46:14,438 --> 00:46:16,440 that formulation, and why it isn't a 1052 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,941 different formulation. 1053 00:46:17,941 --> 00:46:21,578 But in your answer, when you yourself were talking about 1054 00:46:21,578 --> 00:46:24,948 the problem of violent extremism, twice you went on 1055 00:46:24,948 --> 00:46:28,852 to talk about the need for building a platform for 1056 00:46:28,852 --> 00:46:32,756 moderate Muslim leaders, and finding moderate voices, 1057 00:46:32,756 --> 00:46:35,091 particularly in the Muslim community. 1058 00:46:35,092 --> 00:46:38,662 So I just wonder, Josh -- if we could return to this 1059 00:46:38,662 --> 00:46:42,432 question -- why is it that you see the answers to this 1060 00:46:42,432 --> 00:46:45,669 problem in the Muslim community, but you don't see 1061 00:46:45,669 --> 00:46:48,872 fit to identify the problem itself as occurring in the 1062 00:46:48,872 --> 00:46:50,607 Muslim community? 1063 00:46:50,607 --> 00:46:53,009 You want to talk about the violent extremism. 1064 00:46:53,010 --> 00:46:56,780 Mr. Earnest: Well, James, I think Kristen was asking me 1065 00:46:56,780 --> 00:47:02,252 directly about ISIL, and we do know that ISIL extremists 1066 00:47:02,252 --> 00:47:06,890 wrap a lot of their ideology -- their hateful, nihilistic 1067 00:47:06,890 --> 00:47:11,761 ideology -- in the trappings of the religion of Islam. 1068 00:47:11,762 --> 00:47:14,531 And it makes sense that we would engage leaders in the 1069 00:47:14,531 --> 00:47:17,634 Muslim community to assist us as we counter, and even 1070 00:47:17,634 --> 00:47:19,336 rebut, that messaging. 1071 00:47:19,336 --> 00:47:22,004 But that's certainly not our only strategy. 1072 00:47:22,005 --> 00:47:25,209 There are a variety of ways that we can both degrade and 1073 00:47:25,209 --> 00:47:28,011 ultimately destroy ISIL, but also counter their efforts 1074 00:47:28,011 --> 00:47:30,581 in communities both in the United States but around 1075 00:47:30,581 --> 00:47:31,582 the world. 1076 00:47:31,582 --> 00:47:33,717 The Press: Is there some other religion, besides 1077 00:47:33,717 --> 00:47:37,487 Islam today, that you say is fomenting violent extremism? 1078 00:47:37,487 --> 00:47:40,290 Mr. Earnest: Well, there are people of all religions who 1079 00:47:40,290 --> 00:47:42,292 certainly are carrying out acts of violence. 1080 00:47:42,292 --> 00:47:44,294 But there is no doubt that this very dangerous 1081 00:47:44,294 --> 00:47:48,365 terrorist organization in ISIL has sought to wrap 1082 00:47:48,365 --> 00:47:53,470 themselves in the religion of Islam to try to I guess 1083 00:47:53,470 --> 00:47:57,406 sugarcoat their hateful ideology. 1084 00:47:57,407 --> 00:47:57,975 Anita. 1085 00:47:57,975 --> 00:47:59,176 The Press: Hi, two questions. 1086 00:47:59,176 --> 00:48:02,913 One, I wondered if the administration had a view on 1087 00:48:02,913 --> 00:48:05,849 a bill that the House -- I think they're voting on it 1088 00:48:05,849 --> 00:48:08,885 now, about genetically modified food. 1089 00:48:08,885 --> 00:48:11,121 It would block mandatory labeling of genetically 1090 00:48:11,121 --> 00:48:13,991 modified food by state and local governments, and 1091 00:48:13,991 --> 00:48:15,826 establish a voluntary labeling standard through 1092 00:48:15,826 --> 00:48:16,860 the USDA. 1093 00:48:16,860 --> 00:48:17,594 Are you familiar with it? 1094 00:48:17,594 --> 00:48:18,629 Do you have a thought? 1095 00:48:18,629 --> 00:48:19,263 Mr. Earnest: I'm sorry, Anita, I'm actually not 1096 00:48:19,263 --> 00:48:20,797 familiar with that bill, but we'll get you some 1097 00:48:20,797 --> 00:48:22,032 information and follow up with you. 1098 00:48:22,032 --> 00:48:24,868 The Press: Sponsored by someone from your hometown. 1099 00:48:24,868 --> 00:48:25,669 Mr. Earnest: Oh, is that right? 1100 00:48:25,669 --> 00:48:27,904 We'll go and collect some information about it and get 1101 00:48:27,904 --> 00:48:31,908 back to you. 1102 00:48:31,908 --> 00:48:34,645 The Press: Secondly, I wondered if you were aware 1103 00:48:34,645 --> 00:48:37,514 that, just before the briefing, Senator Cruz was 1104 00:48:37,514 --> 00:48:39,316 across the street at Lafayette Park. 1105 00:48:39,316 --> 00:48:43,352 It was a protest against the nuclear deal. 1106 00:48:43,353 --> 00:48:47,891 Among other things, he was very vocal about how, 1107 00:48:47,891 --> 00:48:51,795 because of the sanctions being lifted eventually, 1108 00:48:51,795 --> 00:48:54,264 that there would be so much money flowing into the 1109 00:48:54,264 --> 00:48:57,401 country that the country would use the money to 1110 00:48:57,401 --> 00:48:59,336 "kill Americans." 1111 00:48:59,336 --> 00:49:01,370 Do you have any thoughts about that? 1112 00:49:01,371 --> 00:49:02,973 Mr. Earnest: Well, Anita, I was aware that Senator Cruz 1113 00:49:02,973 --> 00:49:04,675 was planning to hold a pro-war rally in front the 1114 00:49:04,675 --> 00:49:05,609 White House today. 1115 00:49:05,609 --> 00:49:08,545 I didn't see actually how many people turned out for 1116 00:49:08,545 --> 00:49:11,648 the rally, but it doesn't sound like he said anything 1117 00:49:11,648 --> 00:49:13,116 there that he hasn't said anywhere else. 1118 00:49:13,116 --> 00:49:14,785 The Press: Pro-war rally? 1119 00:49:14,785 --> 00:49:15,618 Is that what you just called it? 1120 00:49:15,619 --> 00:49:16,253 Mr. Earnest: I did. 1121 00:49:16,253 --> 00:49:18,188 The Press: You have no other thoughts about it? 1122 00:49:18,188 --> 00:49:20,123 Mr. Earnest: I think that pretty much says it all. 1123 00:49:20,123 --> 00:49:21,558 Jordan. 1124 00:49:21,558 --> 00:49:23,093 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 1125 00:49:23,093 --> 00:49:25,595 So even though the administration is familiar 1126 00:49:25,595 --> 00:49:27,897 with the contents of these bilateral agreements between 1127 00:49:27,898 --> 00:49:30,934 Iran and the IAEA, will there be any effort to 1128 00:49:30,934 --> 00:49:33,203 obtain the documents themselves so that 1129 00:49:33,203 --> 00:49:35,971 administration officials can view the actual documents? 1130 00:49:35,972 --> 00:49:41,311 Mr. Earnest: Jordan, as I mentioned earlier -- well, 1131 00:49:41,311 --> 00:49:43,080 let me say one thing about this. 1132 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,082 The other thing that I think is a relevant fact here is 1133 00:49:45,082 --> 00:49:49,086 that the IAEA has these kinds of agreements with 1134 00:49:49,086 --> 00:49:51,221 more than a hundred countries around the world. 1135 00:49:51,221 --> 00:49:54,224 And these are agreements between the IAEA and 1136 00:49:54,224 --> 00:49:55,525 individual countries. 1137 00:49:55,525 --> 00:49:59,329 The IAEA is an independent, international body of 1138 00:49:59,329 --> 00:50:02,599 nuclear experts that is responsible for a variety of 1139 00:50:02,599 --> 00:50:05,335 things, including carrying out inspections like this. 1140 00:50:07,604 --> 00:50:10,073 What's true is that the United States and our 1141 00:50:10,073 --> 00:50:13,143 negotiating partners are aware of the details of 1142 00:50:13,143 --> 00:50:18,181 those agreements, of those conversations, and is 1143 00:50:18,181 --> 00:50:20,550 prepared to share them with members of Congress. 1144 00:50:20,550 --> 00:50:22,686 We obviously can't do it in a setting like this, but it 1145 00:50:22,686 --> 00:50:24,688 is a conversation that can occur in a classified 1146 00:50:24,688 --> 00:50:27,224 setting, and it's a conversation that senior 1147 00:50:27,224 --> 00:50:29,192 administration officials have committed to having. 1148 00:50:29,192 --> 00:50:30,627 The Press: Yeah, but is there a reason why you 1149 00:50:30,627 --> 00:50:32,462 haven't seen the actual document? 1150 00:50:32,462 --> 00:50:35,232 Is there some sort of rule preventing that? 1151 00:50:35,232 --> 00:50:36,933 Some sort of protocol, diplomatic protocol that's 1152 00:50:36,933 --> 00:50:39,569 preventing administration officials from viewing the 1153 00:50:39,569 --> 00:50:40,604 actual document? 1154 00:50:40,604 --> 00:50:43,406 Mr. Earnest: Well, the protocol, in this case, is 1155 00:50:43,407 --> 00:50:46,576 that this is an agreement between Iran and IAEA. 1156 00:50:46,576 --> 00:50:50,547 But this is an agreement that Iran agreed to because 1157 00:50:50,547 --> 00:50:52,382 of the pressure applied by the United States and our 1158 00:50:52,382 --> 00:50:55,185 negotiating partners in which we said, unless you 1159 00:50:55,185 --> 00:50:57,854 provide the IAEA the necessary access and 1160 00:50:57,854 --> 00:51:01,124 information so that the IAEA can complete their report, 1161 00:51:01,124 --> 00:51:03,426 then we're not going to give you any sanctions relief. 1162 00:51:03,427 --> 00:51:07,330 And that's -- I guess I should say, unless and until 1163 00:51:07,330 --> 00:51:10,734 they provide that access and information to the IAEA, no 1164 00:51:10,734 --> 00:51:11,902 sanctions relief will be provided. 1165 00:51:11,902 --> 00:51:13,570 The Press: And on a different subject. 1166 00:51:13,570 --> 00:51:17,073 There was a bill introduced in the House this week -- 1167 00:51:17,073 --> 00:51:20,577 the House and the Senate -- sponsored by David Cicilline 1168 00:51:20,577 --> 00:51:23,547 and Senator Merkley that would have a lot of 1169 00:51:23,547 --> 00:51:27,317 anti-discrimination protections for LGBT individuals. 1170 00:51:27,317 --> 00:51:28,885 And I'm wondering if the White House has a position 1171 00:51:28,885 --> 00:51:30,053 on that bill. 1172 00:51:30,053 --> 00:51:32,154 Mr. Earnest: Jordan, I can tell you that we applaud the 1173 00:51:32,155 --> 00:51:34,958 efforts of members of the House and Senate to put 1174 00:51:34,958 --> 00:51:38,395 forth comprehensive legislation to fight discrimination. 1175 00:51:38,395 --> 00:51:40,797 And while we -- we're going to review the language that 1176 00:51:40,797 --> 00:51:41,798 they've put forward. 1177 00:51:41,798 --> 00:51:44,533 But while we do, let me just say that the administration 1178 00:51:44,534 --> 00:51:46,636 shares the goal of ensuring that all Americans are 1179 00:51:46,636 --> 00:51:48,638 treated equally under federal law. 1180 00:51:48,638 --> 00:51:51,575 And we believe that legislation is a good next 1181 00:51:51,575 --> 00:51:53,310 step in the right direction. 1182 00:51:53,310 --> 00:51:54,578 Angela. 1183 00:51:54,578 --> 00:51:56,546 The Press: Josh, going back to the highway bill, you 1184 00:51:56,546 --> 00:51:59,749 told Julia that the White House is still reviewing 1185 00:51:59,749 --> 00:52:00,984 the paperwork. 1186 00:52:00,984 --> 00:52:04,020 But as a matter of general principle, the Strategic 1187 00:52:04,020 --> 00:52:07,858 Petroleum Reserve is a target of one of the pay-fors. 1188 00:52:07,858 --> 00:52:09,826 And does the White House agree with Republicans in 1189 00:52:09,826 --> 00:52:12,295 Congress that it's a good target to use as a piggybank 1190 00:52:12,295 --> 00:52:14,798 when needed? 1191 00:52:14,798 --> 00:52:18,033 Mr. Earnest: Well, there are two reasons why I'm not 1192 00:52:18,034 --> 00:52:19,336 going to answer your question. 1193 00:52:19,336 --> 00:52:23,573 The first is that it's hard to talk about -- 1194 00:52:23,573 --> 00:52:23,940 The Press: That's honest. 1195 00:52:23,940 --> 00:52:25,242 Mr. Earnest: Yes, I'm trying to be. 1196 00:52:25,242 --> 00:52:29,346 The first is that I'm not aware that this is a pay-for 1197 00:52:29,346 --> 00:52:31,214 that's been previously offered. 1198 00:52:31,214 --> 00:52:33,283 So therefore, it's hard to talk about it in principle 1199 00:52:37,087 --> 00:52:39,189 because this is the only sort of example of it, at 1200 00:52:39,189 --> 00:52:41,191 least that I've seen -- and I could be wrong about it. 1201 00:52:41,191 --> 00:52:43,192 The Press: I believe there is one other example -- 1202 00:52:43,193 --> 00:52:45,195 Mr. Earnest: Okay, so it's hard for me to speculate on 1203 00:52:45,195 --> 00:52:47,664 the actual -- or opine on the principle at stake here. 1204 00:52:47,664 --> 00:52:53,537 The second is that the market sensitivity of this 1205 00:52:53,537 --> 00:52:59,542 particular policy is high. 1206 00:53:01,611 --> 00:53:04,748 And so even just sort of speculating about it, or 1207 00:53:04,748 --> 00:53:09,586 opining on it on principle could have an unintended 1208 00:53:09,586 --> 00:53:11,587 impact on the financial markets. 1209 00:53:11,588 --> 00:53:13,990 And I surely don't need that today. 1210 00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:15,457 (laughter) 1211 00:53:15,458 --> 00:53:17,193 The Press: Secondly, on the highway bill, you mentioned 1212 00:53:17,193 --> 00:53:18,895 again today that's it's the preferred vehicle for moving 1213 00:53:18,895 --> 00:53:22,432 the Export-Import Bank reauthorization. 1214 00:53:22,432 --> 00:53:24,500 However, the highway bill does not look like a sure 1215 00:53:24,501 --> 00:53:26,903 thing at all, given what members on both sides of the 1216 00:53:26,903 --> 00:53:28,038 aisle have said in the last couple days. 1217 00:53:28,038 --> 00:53:29,873 Do you have a plan B for moving Ex-Im? 1218 00:53:29,873 --> 00:53:32,275 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think you heard from the President 1219 00:53:32,275 --> 00:53:36,913 yesterday that this is an important priority. 1220 00:53:36,913 --> 00:53:42,385 And there are some members of Congress who agree, and 1221 00:53:42,385 --> 00:53:44,721 even a majority in Congress who agree that the Ex-Im 1222 00:53:44,721 --> 00:53:49,726 Bank is a priority -- a minority who do not agree. 1223 00:53:49,726 --> 00:53:53,196 But I think just about everybody in Congress agrees 1224 00:53:53,196 --> 00:53:56,366 that it's a priority to make sure that we fund our 1225 00:53:56,366 --> 00:53:58,768 transportation system in a timely fashion. 1226 00:53:58,768 --> 00:54:01,137 And so I don't have a plan B to tell you about. 1227 00:54:01,137 --> 00:54:04,207 We're going to continue to urge members of Congress -- 1228 00:54:04,207 --> 00:54:08,078 Democrats and Republicans -- to focus on making sure that 1229 00:54:08,078 --> 00:54:10,480 they fund the service transportation system in 1230 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,850 this country appropriately, and that they do it on time. 1231 00:54:13,850 --> 00:54:16,620 And when they do, they should include a provision 1232 00:54:16,620 --> 00:54:17,721 to ensure the reauthorization of the 1233 00:54:17,721 --> 00:54:19,522 Ex-Im Bank. 1234 00:54:19,522 --> 00:54:21,157 The Press: And then, lastly, you said yesterday there 1235 00:54:21,157 --> 00:54:23,627 would be a list today of lawmakers traveling to 1236 00:54:23,627 --> 00:54:25,962 Africa with the President, with the delegation. 1237 00:54:25,962 --> 00:54:26,896 Do you have that list today? 1238 00:54:26,896 --> 00:54:27,364 Mr. Earnest: Yes. 1239 00:54:27,364 --> 00:54:28,298 I saw the list. 1240 00:54:28,298 --> 00:54:30,667 They are going through it to make sure that it's final, 1241 00:54:30,667 --> 00:54:32,636 and so it's something that we'll provide before we're 1242 00:54:32,636 --> 00:54:33,637 wheels up tonight. 1243 00:54:33,637 --> 00:54:35,639 It's a delegation of about -- yesterday I said it was 1244 00:54:35,639 --> 00:54:36,640 more than a dozen. 1245 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,642 I think the last time I looked at the list, it was 1246 00:54:38,642 --> 00:54:40,644 about 20 members of Congress. 1247 00:54:40,644 --> 00:54:43,513 But we will have that before we're wheels up today. 1248 00:54:43,513 --> 00:54:44,047 The Press: If we say some of the names, will you say yes? 1249 00:54:44,047 --> 00:54:44,948 (laughter) 1250 00:54:44,948 --> 00:54:45,949 Mr. Earnest: No, because it's not finalized yet. 1251 00:54:45,949 --> 00:54:47,851 But we'll get that to you before the end of the day. 1252 00:54:47,851 --> 00:54:49,019 Susan. 1253 00:54:49,019 --> 00:54:53,857 The Press: I'm looking at the IAEA statement from July 1254 00:54:53,857 --> 00:54:55,492 14th when the deal was announced, and they're 1255 00:54:55,492 --> 00:54:57,794 calling this a roadmap. 1256 00:54:57,794 --> 00:54:59,596 They're not calling this the ideal. 1257 00:54:59,596 --> 00:55:02,198 I'm getting a little confused, though, because 1258 00:55:02,198 --> 00:55:05,567 after listening to Susan Rice yesterday she said she 1259 00:55:05,568 --> 00:55:09,139 acknowledged that there was an agreement that did not 1260 00:55:09,139 --> 00:55:12,108 fall within the documents you could present to Congress. 1261 00:55:12,108 --> 00:55:15,412 So you're saying today it's not a side deal. 1262 00:55:15,412 --> 00:55:17,379 So I'm a little confused about whether this is just a 1263 00:55:17,380 --> 00:55:18,848 game of semantics? 1264 00:55:18,848 --> 00:55:22,519 Or why -- if it's not a side deal, then why can't you 1265 00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:25,955 give the documents to Congress? 1266 00:55:25,955 --> 00:55:28,825 It's saying here in the statement that they will 1267 00:55:28,825 --> 00:55:32,227 have -- it's a roadmap. 1268 00:55:32,228 --> 00:55:36,533 And they said they will have something more definitive, 1269 00:55:36,533 --> 00:55:40,103 concrete -- a document by December 15th. 1270 00:55:40,103 --> 00:55:42,105 Does that mean that we're going to have to wait -- 1271 00:55:42,105 --> 00:55:43,707 Congress is going to have to wait to get that document by 1272 00:55:43,707 --> 00:55:45,475 December 15th? 1273 00:55:45,475 --> 00:55:48,111 Mr. Earnest: Well, what they will know by October 15th is 1274 00:55:48,111 --> 00:55:50,547 whether or not Iran followed through with their 1275 00:55:50,547 --> 00:55:53,116 commitment to provide the IAEA with the necessary 1276 00:55:53,116 --> 00:55:55,952 information and access to complete the report. 1277 00:55:55,952 --> 00:55:58,288 I believe that December 15th is the target date for 1278 00:55:58,288 --> 00:56:00,924 writing the report, at which point the report will be 1279 00:56:00,924 --> 00:56:02,926 made public and people will have the opportunity to 1280 00:56:02,926 --> 00:56:03,893 review it. 1281 00:56:03,893 --> 00:56:08,164 But again, the reason that I do think some of our critics 1282 00:56:08,164 --> 00:56:10,166 -- sort of in their desperation to try to kill 1283 00:56:10,166 --> 00:56:13,636 this thing -- are playing semantics games is that -- 1284 00:56:13,636 --> 00:56:22,045 again, the critical component of this agreement, 1285 00:56:22,045 --> 00:56:25,982 is Iran limiting their nuclear program and cutting 1286 00:56:25,982 --> 00:56:28,384 off every pathway they have to a nuclear weapon in 1287 00:56:28,384 --> 00:56:30,086 exchange for sanctions relief? 1288 00:56:30,086 --> 00:56:32,122 And what we have said is that you have to take all 1289 00:56:32,122 --> 00:56:34,491 those steps to cut off every pathway you have to a 1290 00:56:34,491 --> 00:56:36,793 nuclear weapon, and you have to reduce your uranium 1291 00:56:36,793 --> 00:56:38,261 stockpile by 98 percent. 1292 00:56:38,261 --> 00:56:40,430 You have to disconnect 13,000 centrifuges. 1293 00:56:40,430 --> 00:56:43,832 You have to render harmless your heavy-water reactor. 1294 00:56:43,833 --> 00:56:45,835 But the other thing that you have to do is you have to 1295 00:56:45,835 --> 00:56:47,837 provide this information and access to the IAEA. 1296 00:56:47,837 --> 00:56:49,339 And that's why I would describe this as an 1297 00:56:49,339 --> 00:56:51,908 important component of the agreement and not be 1298 00:56:51,908 --> 00:56:54,778 dismissed by some as some sort of side deal. 1299 00:56:54,778 --> 00:56:56,312 The Press: Yes, but if it's an important component of 1300 00:56:56,312 --> 00:56:57,947 the agreement, you might want to have some documents 1301 00:56:57,947 --> 00:56:59,082 to provide Congress. 1302 00:56:59,082 --> 00:57:00,283 It just seems like a game of semantics. 1303 00:57:00,283 --> 00:57:02,118 But let's move on. 1304 00:57:02,118 --> 00:57:04,988 Mr. Earnest: Well, let me just say that what this is, 1305 00:57:04,988 --> 00:57:06,990 though, is that this is the United States and the 1306 00:57:06,990 --> 00:57:09,459 international community using our leverage to 1307 00:57:09,459 --> 00:57:11,694 benefit the IAEA and their investigation of the 1308 00:57:11,694 --> 00:57:13,897 potential military dimensions of Iran's 1309 00:57:13,897 --> 00:57:14,898 nuclear program. 1310 00:57:14,898 --> 00:57:16,533 So that's why it makes sense that the documents and 1311 00:57:16,533 --> 00:57:21,805 agreement is between Iran and the IAEA. 1312 00:57:21,805 --> 00:57:22,806 But I don't want to -- 1313 00:57:22,806 --> 00:57:24,507 The Press: -- write that. 1314 00:57:24,507 --> 00:57:26,509 I'm writing a story right now, but trying to describe 1315 00:57:26,509 --> 00:57:28,511 exactly if this is a side deal or not. 1316 00:57:28,511 --> 00:57:29,512 I used side deal yesterday. 1317 00:57:29,512 --> 00:57:30,580 I'm not using side deal. 1318 00:57:30,580 --> 00:57:32,515 I'm saying it falls without -- it's just getting really 1319 00:57:32,515 --> 00:57:35,084 ridiculous and confusing. 1320 00:57:35,084 --> 00:57:36,685 Mr. Earnest: Well, I would acknowledge that 1321 00:57:36,686 --> 00:57:37,654 it's complicated. 1322 00:57:37,654 --> 00:57:39,656 But I think we're -- I think our position on this, 1323 00:57:39,656 --> 00:57:41,991 though, is crystal clear, which is that unless Iran 1324 00:57:41,991 --> 00:57:45,461 cooperates with the IAEA in providing them the access 1325 00:57:45,461 --> 00:57:48,064 and information that they need to write their report 1326 00:57:48,064 --> 00:57:50,066 about the potential military dimensions of their nuclear 1327 00:57:50,066 --> 00:57:52,067 program, then Iran is not going to get any 1328 00:57:52,068 --> 00:57:53,069 sanctions relief. 1329 00:57:53,069 --> 00:57:55,071 And the deal won't go forward because they've been 1330 00:57:55,071 --> 00:57:55,438 clear -- 1331 00:57:55,438 --> 00:57:55,972 The Press: I think we understand. 1332 00:57:55,972 --> 00:57:57,173 Mr. Earnest: Okay. 1333 00:57:57,173 --> 00:57:57,973 The Press: We're just trying to write a story, and it's 1334 00:57:57,974 --> 00:58:01,244 getting very -- almost like cumbersome to write it when 1335 00:58:01,244 --> 00:58:04,814 you're saying you don't have the documents, but it's not 1336 00:58:04,814 --> 00:58:06,015 a side deal. 1337 00:58:06,015 --> 00:58:08,051 It just -- it doesn't seem right. 1338 00:58:08,051 --> 00:58:11,754 But anyway, let me move on to the issue of countering 1339 00:58:11,754 --> 00:58:13,356 violent extremism. 1340 00:58:13,356 --> 00:58:17,393 Michael McCaul, the Homeland Security Chairman in the 1341 00:58:17,393 --> 00:58:21,564 House, has a bill that passed out last week that 1342 00:58:21,564 --> 00:58:25,602 would create a center for countering violent extremism 1343 00:58:25,602 --> 00:58:27,971 in the Homeland Security Department. 1344 00:58:27,971 --> 00:58:28,938 You're probably aware of this. 1345 00:58:28,938 --> 00:58:31,140 But I'm wondering -- I haven't seen whether you 1346 00:58:31,140 --> 00:58:33,776 support that creation of that center, or whether you 1347 00:58:33,776 --> 00:58:37,814 fear -- as the ACLU does -- that it could unfairly 1348 00:58:37,814 --> 00:58:40,316 target the Muslim communities and also to 1349 00:58:40,316 --> 00:58:44,988 create more fear within the Muslim communities that they 1350 00:58:44,988 --> 00:58:46,723 might be intelligence-gathering on 1351 00:58:46,723 --> 00:58:49,392 them, instead of actually helping them prevent 1352 00:58:49,392 --> 00:58:51,160 extremism within their own communities? 1353 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,060 Mr. Earnest: Well, Susan, what we've made clear on 1354 00:58:52,061 --> 00:58:55,665 principle is that our efforts to counter violent 1355 00:58:55,665 --> 00:58:57,834 extremism are going to be more effective if we can 1356 00:58:57,834 --> 00:58:59,636 actually work with individual communities and 1357 00:58:59,636 --> 00:59:01,404 work with the leaders of individual communities all 1358 00:59:01,404 --> 00:59:03,907 across the country to counter this effort -- to 1359 00:59:03,907 --> 00:59:06,576 counter this effort to radicalize some 1360 00:59:06,576 --> 00:59:09,279 vulnerable citizens. 1361 00:59:09,279 --> 00:59:11,748 And it's the leaders in these communities that have 1362 00:59:11,748 --> 00:59:15,285 their own -- they have their own vested interests in 1363 00:59:15,285 --> 00:59:19,022 trying to counter those radicalization efforts, and 1364 00:59:19,022 --> 00:59:21,624 that we're going to be more effective in countering 1365 00:59:21,624 --> 00:59:23,625 those efforts if we're actually able to partner 1366 00:59:23,626 --> 00:59:25,995 with leaders and partner with these communities to 1367 00:59:25,995 --> 00:59:30,266 try to prevent radical ideology and hateful 1368 00:59:30,266 --> 00:59:32,635 ideology from inspiring people to carry out acts 1369 00:59:32,635 --> 00:59:33,603 of violence. 1370 00:59:33,603 --> 00:59:35,605 And so that's a principle that has been in place here 1371 00:59:35,605 --> 00:59:36,606 for quite some time. 1372 00:59:36,606 --> 00:59:38,708 And we found -- we know how effective that is. 1373 00:59:38,708 --> 00:59:40,009 The Press: Congressman McCaul says there's not 1374 00:59:40,009 --> 00:59:42,178 enough resources being devoted to it, and it's not 1375 00:59:42,178 --> 00:59:46,214 -- there's not any kind of agency governing it. 1376 00:59:46,215 --> 00:59:48,785 What do you think of his legislation about this 1377 00:59:48,785 --> 00:59:50,219 center for -- 1378 00:59:50,219 --> 00:59:51,487 Mr. Earnest: Well, I guess I would observe. 1379 00:59:51,487 --> 00:59:54,657 It sounds to me like maybe we have our first Republican 1380 00:59:54,657 --> 00:59:56,659 in the House of Representatives who is ready 1381 00:59:56,659 --> 00:59:59,429 to come out against sequester-level funding for 1382 00:59:59,429 --> 01:00:02,799 non-discretionary defense programs because this is a 1383 01:00:02,799 --> 01:00:06,369 program that would be affected by the sequester on 1384 01:00:06,369 --> 01:00:09,772 the non-defense side, but yet is -- even Chairman 1385 01:00:09,772 --> 01:00:13,276 McCaul would agree -- that it's critically important to 1386 01:00:13,276 --> 01:00:14,210 our national security. 1387 01:00:14,210 --> 01:00:16,045 The Press: But that's a sidestepping of the -- do 1388 01:00:16,045 --> 01:00:17,113 you support that center? 1389 01:00:17,113 --> 01:00:17,879 Mr. Earnest: Well, I actually think -- he's 1390 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:18,982 saying that there aren't enough resources for the 1391 01:00:18,982 --> 01:00:21,317 program, but yet he supports legislation that would gut 1392 01:00:21,317 --> 01:00:22,685 funding for the program. 1393 01:00:22,685 --> 01:00:24,587 I think I'm taking on his concerns directly. 1394 01:00:24,587 --> 01:00:25,989 The Press: No, but do you support the center that he -- 1395 01:00:25,989 --> 01:00:28,358 Mr. Earnest: I haven't looked at the details of his 1396 01:00:28,358 --> 01:00:29,525 specific proposal, but we're happy to. 1397 01:00:29,525 --> 01:00:30,460 Cheryl. 1398 01:00:30,460 --> 01:00:31,461 The Press: Thank you. 1399 01:00:31,461 --> 01:00:33,629 Hey, funding. 1400 01:00:33,629 --> 01:00:39,736 So, this morning, House Speaker Boehner suggested 1401 01:00:39,736 --> 01:00:43,406 that given the few legislative days left until 1402 01:00:43,406 --> 01:00:45,775 the end of the fiscal year, there would likely have to 1403 01:00:45,775 --> 01:00:48,611 be a short-term CR or funding resolution. 1404 01:00:48,611 --> 01:00:51,013 Mr. Earnest: Few legislative days, right? 1405 01:00:51,014 --> 01:00:52,315 (laughter) 1406 01:00:52,315 --> 01:00:53,616 I'm no math expert. 1407 01:00:53,616 --> 01:00:57,186 I think there are like 70 days between now and the end 1408 01:00:57,186 --> 01:00:58,154 of the fiscal year. 1409 01:00:58,154 --> 01:00:59,489 The Press: He said legislative days. 1410 01:00:59,489 --> 01:01:00,223 Mr. Earnest: All right. 1411 01:01:00,223 --> 01:01:01,391 At least he was honest. 1412 01:01:01,391 --> 01:01:03,726 The Press: Is the White House -- is the President 1413 01:01:03,726 --> 01:01:07,463 prepared to support a short-term -- or concede 1414 01:01:07,463 --> 01:01:09,565 that the short-term deal will be necessary? 1415 01:01:09,565 --> 01:01:12,835 Mr. Earnest: What we believe is necessary is that in the 1416 01:01:12,835 --> 01:01:15,271 70 days that remain -- whether Congress is in 1417 01:01:15,271 --> 01:01:18,408 session or not -- Republicans have a 1418 01:01:18,408 --> 01:01:20,910 responsibility to take Democrats in the Congress up 1419 01:01:20,910 --> 01:01:24,747 on their offer to trying to negotiate a budget agreement 1420 01:01:24,747 --> 01:01:26,982 that would prevent a government shutdown. 1421 01:01:26,983 --> 01:01:31,054 And we have seen these kinds of talks between Democrats 1422 01:01:31,054 --> 01:01:34,791 and Republicans on Capitol Hill be effective in trying 1423 01:01:34,791 --> 01:01:36,526 to identify common ground. 1424 01:01:36,526 --> 01:01:39,796 And we believe that that would occur again if 1425 01:01:39,796 --> 01:01:42,330 Republicans, like I said, would take up Democrats on 1426 01:01:42,331 --> 01:01:44,734 their offer to have those conversations. 1427 01:01:44,734 --> 01:01:46,936 We believe that is the best way for us to resolve this 1428 01:01:46,936 --> 01:01:50,106 problem, and even -- again, even if Congress may not be 1429 01:01:50,106 --> 01:01:53,342 in session, there still is no reason that those kinds 1430 01:01:53,342 --> 01:01:55,478 of conversations can't occur. 1431 01:01:55,478 --> 01:01:58,514 We certainly should not wait until the government has 1432 01:01:58,514 --> 01:02:01,484 already been shut down before Republicans start to 1433 01:02:01,484 --> 01:02:02,585 engage in those conversations. 1434 01:02:02,585 --> 01:02:04,587 That's unfortunately what happened last time. 1435 01:02:04,587 --> 01:02:05,855 We can't repeat that mistake. 1436 01:02:05,855 --> 01:02:07,256 The Press: So are you saying you would oppose a 1437 01:02:07,256 --> 01:02:09,325 short-term CR? 1438 01:02:09,325 --> 01:02:11,727 Mr. Earnest: What I'm suggesting is that the -- in 1439 01:02:11,727 --> 01:02:14,629 the 70 days between now and the end of the fiscal year, 1440 01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:18,534 that Republicans should sit down with Democrats and 1441 01:02:18,534 --> 01:02:21,771 broker the kind of bipartisan agreement that's 1442 01:02:21,771 --> 01:02:23,339 been good for the country and good for our economy in 1443 01:02:23,339 --> 01:02:24,340 the past. 1444 01:02:24,340 --> 01:02:25,007 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 1445 01:02:25,007 --> 01:02:26,375 Mr. Earnest: Mark. 1446 01:02:26,375 --> 01:02:28,778 The Press: Josh, on your pro-war remark, does the 1447 01:02:28,778 --> 01:02:32,515 White House regard any and all opponents of Iran 1448 01:02:32,515 --> 01:02:34,016 nuclear deal as pro-war? 1449 01:02:34,016 --> 01:02:36,185 Mr. Earnest: Well, they can explain for themselves. 1450 01:02:36,185 --> 01:02:37,887 Obviously, there is at least one Republican *member of 1451 01:02:37,887 --> 01:02:40,556 Congress [candidate for president] who said that he 1452 01:02:40,556 --> 01:02:43,659 would be prepared if he wins the presidency in the next 1453 01:02:43,659 --> 01:02:45,428 election, he would be prepared to carry out a 1454 01:02:45,428 --> 01:02:48,330 military strike against Iran on Inauguration Day. 1455 01:02:48,331 --> 01:02:52,101 So I haven't heard Senator Cruz's position on this. 1456 01:02:52,101 --> 01:02:53,269 Maybe he disagrees with that. 1457 01:02:53,269 --> 01:02:54,870 But he's welcome to say so. 1458 01:02:54,871 --> 01:02:56,339 The Press: But you don't agree that's the case for 1459 01:02:56,339 --> 01:02:58,841 all opponents of the deal, do you? 1460 01:02:58,841 --> 01:03:00,843 The Press: Well, I think that all opponents will have 1461 01:03:00,843 --> 01:03:03,745 the opportunity to explain why they would oppose the 1462 01:03:03,746 --> 01:03:06,082 best way for us to prevent Iran from obtaining a 1463 01:03:06,082 --> 01:03:08,451 nuclear weapon, and that is through diplomacy. 1464 01:03:08,451 --> 01:03:10,553 They can all make their own individual case. 1465 01:03:10,553 --> 01:03:13,288 But I think that Senator Cruz -- again, he can speak 1466 01:03:13,289 --> 01:03:14,290 for himself. 1467 01:03:14,290 --> 01:03:16,425 But my understanding is that he's been sympathetic to 1468 01:03:16,425 --> 01:03:21,464 this view that the next President should be prepared 1469 01:03:21,464 --> 01:03:23,466 to carry out a military strike against Iran on 1470 01:03:23,466 --> 01:03:24,467 Inauguration Day. 1471 01:03:24,467 --> 01:03:27,136 The Press: Also, what's the President been doing all day? 1472 01:03:27,136 --> 01:03:29,672 His public schedule is fairly barren. 1473 01:03:29,672 --> 01:03:31,240 (laughter) 1474 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,375 He's got a presidential daily brief, and then 1475 01:03:33,376 --> 01:03:34,610 his departure. 1476 01:03:34,610 --> 01:03:36,112 What's he doing? 1477 01:03:36,112 --> 01:03:37,847 Mr. Earnest: There are a couple meetings that the 1478 01:03:37,847 --> 01:03:40,316 President is doing today -- some of them related to his 1479 01:03:40,316 --> 01:03:41,917 Africa trip. 1480 01:03:41,918 --> 01:03:44,053 One thing I can -- I might as well go ahead and tell 1481 01:03:44,053 --> 01:03:45,421 you about, I don't know if I'm making news here. 1482 01:03:45,421 --> 01:03:46,589 The Press: BBC. 1483 01:03:46,589 --> 01:03:47,657 Mr. Earnest: Yes, exactly. 1484 01:03:47,657 --> 01:03:50,126 So I guess I'm not -- unless Bill has got the scoop here. 1485 01:03:50,126 --> 01:03:52,328 The President is doing an interview this afternoon 1486 01:03:52,328 --> 01:03:53,629 with BBC. 1487 01:03:53,629 --> 01:03:55,932 And I would expect that that would be an opportunity for 1488 01:03:55,932 --> 01:03:59,502 the President to discuss both his upcoming trip to 1489 01:03:59,502 --> 01:04:04,874 Africa, but also the historic agreement with Iran. 1490 01:04:08,044 --> 01:04:10,046 So obviously there's significant international 1491 01:04:10,046 --> 01:04:11,647 interest in both of those stories. 1492 01:04:11,647 --> 01:04:14,183 Those interviews will be broadcast for the first time 1493 01:04:14,183 --> 01:04:15,885 at 11:00 p.m. 1494 01:04:15,885 --> 01:04:16,986 Eastern Time tonight. 1495 01:04:16,986 --> 01:04:19,589 So you can set your DVRs. 1496 01:04:19,589 --> 01:04:21,224 The Press: Is it going to be broadcast? 1497 01:04:21,224 --> 01:04:21,791 Mr. Earnest: I'm sorry? 1498 01:04:21,791 --> 01:04:23,593 The Press: Is it going to be broadcast somewhere earlier? 1499 01:04:23,593 --> 01:04:24,926 (laughter) 1500 01:04:24,927 --> 01:04:28,197 Mr. Earnest: That sounds like a pre-broadcast, 1501 01:04:28,197 --> 01:04:29,332 not a re-broadcast. 1502 01:04:29,332 --> 01:04:30,900 (laughter) 1503 01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:32,401 So -- 11:00 p.m. 1504 01:04:32,401 --> 01:04:33,202 Jared, I'll give you the last one. 1505 01:04:33,202 --> 01:04:34,303 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 1506 01:04:34,303 --> 01:04:36,239 I also have a question about the President's schedule today. 1507 01:04:36,239 --> 01:04:38,941 Will he be dropping by the Community Oriented Policing 1508 01:04:38,941 --> 01:04:41,776 Initiative at the EEOB today? 1509 01:04:41,777 --> 01:04:45,481 Mr. Earnest: I don't believe so, actually. 1510 01:04:45,481 --> 01:04:47,483 I know that the Attorney General was planning 1511 01:04:47,483 --> 01:04:48,484 to be there. 1512 01:04:48,484 --> 01:04:50,486 But I don't believe that's on the President's 1513 01:04:50,486 --> 01:04:51,453 schedule today. 1514 01:04:51,454 --> 01:04:53,556 The Press: In that context, just to follow up on April's 1515 01:04:53,556 --> 01:04:55,024 questions about Sandra Bland. 1516 01:04:55,024 --> 01:04:58,527 The White House has put out these initiatives, and 1517 01:04:58,527 --> 01:04:59,829 they've been going for some time now. 1518 01:04:59,829 --> 01:05:03,299 I just want to ask in terms of process, when these news 1519 01:05:03,299 --> 01:05:08,704 stories come up and we start to learn about yet another 1520 01:05:08,704 --> 01:05:11,173 video or yet another incident of these things 1521 01:05:11,173 --> 01:05:13,542 happening, how do these initiatives, which have 1522 01:05:13,542 --> 01:05:17,113 originated at the White House, adapt or take this 1523 01:05:17,113 --> 01:05:18,114 new information in? 1524 01:05:18,114 --> 01:05:20,416 Is this something where they have a mission? 1525 01:05:20,416 --> 01:05:23,119 The President has given them a purpose, and they 1526 01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:25,821 essentially go forward along those guidelines? 1527 01:05:25,821 --> 01:05:29,525 Or do they say, with each new incident, well, let's 1528 01:05:29,525 --> 01:05:32,895 try to figure out how this fits into the overall narrative? 1529 01:05:32,895 --> 01:05:39,802 Mr. Earnest: Well, my first instinct is to tell you that 1530 01:05:39,802 --> 01:05:42,138 -- and I think this is obviously from somebody who 1531 01:05:42,138 --> 01:05:44,674 has following this closely like you have been, which is 1532 01:05:44,674 --> 01:05:46,676 that each of these individuals -- or each of 1533 01:05:46,676 --> 01:05:50,613 these incidents occur in unique circumstances. 1534 01:05:50,613 --> 01:05:54,549 And it underscores the need that was discussed in the 1535 01:05:54,550 --> 01:05:58,087 President's 21st Century Policing Task Force to work 1536 01:05:58,087 --> 01:06:00,356 with individual communities to tailor a solution to 1537 01:06:00,356 --> 01:06:01,324 their communities. 1538 01:06:01,324 --> 01:06:03,326 And the thing that we know is that when we build 1539 01:06:03,326 --> 01:06:05,328 stronger relationships between local law 1540 01:06:05,328 --> 01:06:07,330 enforcement agencies and the communities they're sworn to 1541 01:06:07,330 --> 01:06:09,332 serve and protect, that they can operate 1542 01:06:09,332 --> 01:06:10,433 more effectively. 1543 01:06:10,433 --> 01:06:14,603 And that's the principle that we're seeking to apply 1544 01:06:14,603 --> 01:06:15,738 all across the country. 1545 01:06:15,738 --> 01:06:18,240 And, yes, this means that it applies in a lot of 1546 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,743 different ways in different communities. 1547 01:06:20,743 --> 01:06:23,879 But the underlying principle is essentially that one. 1548 01:06:23,879 --> 01:06:26,248 There is one other thing, and you alluded -- one other 1549 01:06:26,248 --> 01:06:28,684 common thread in a lot of this that you alluded to, 1550 01:06:28,684 --> 01:06:31,487 which is the prominent role that video has played in 1551 01:06:31,487 --> 01:06:32,621 telling some of these stories. 1552 01:06:32,621 --> 01:06:35,758 And that's why the Department of Justice has 1553 01:06:35,758 --> 01:06:40,096 advanced this pilot program for body-worn cameras. 1554 01:06:40,096 --> 01:06:42,198 There are a number of local law enforcement agencies 1555 01:06:42,198 --> 01:06:45,533 that have acted on their own to ensure that their law 1556 01:06:45,534 --> 01:06:48,170 enforcement officers are wearing cameras. 1557 01:06:48,170 --> 01:06:50,172 There is more that we need to understand in terms of 1558 01:06:50,172 --> 01:06:52,174 the impact of this particular technology 1559 01:06:52,174 --> 01:06:54,143 on policing. 1560 01:06:54,143 --> 01:06:58,681 But it certainly does indicate that there's some 1561 01:06:58,681 --> 01:07:02,518 potential associated with body-worn cameras. 1562 01:07:02,518 --> 01:07:03,986 And that's something that the Justice Department is 1563 01:07:03,986 --> 01:07:05,688 obviously working on. 1564 01:07:05,688 --> 01:07:07,289 The Press: I don't want to read too much into the cause 1565 01:07:07,289 --> 01:07:10,793 and effect, but the thrust for body-worn cameras came 1566 01:07:10,793 --> 01:07:14,163 after several incidents where video was utilized -- 1567 01:07:14,163 --> 01:07:15,931 civilian video was utilized. 1568 01:07:15,931 --> 01:07:18,667 And that was something that spurred a legislative 1569 01:07:18,667 --> 01:07:20,903 proposal and the White House's proposal. 1570 01:07:20,903 --> 01:07:25,274 What I'm asking is, is there a need for the Community 1571 01:07:25,274 --> 01:07:28,544 Oriented Policing and the 21st Century Policing Task 1572 01:07:28,544 --> 01:07:32,948 Force -- is there a need for them to ingest each new 1573 01:07:32,948 --> 01:07:35,750 incident and react to it? 1574 01:07:35,751 --> 01:07:39,922 And a separate question, and this may be better able to 1575 01:07:39,922 --> 01:07:41,924 get a specific answer out of you because that one is kind 1576 01:07:41,924 --> 01:07:42,925 of vague. 1577 01:07:42,925 --> 01:07:49,165 When we see -- when we hear from the Attorney General 1578 01:07:49,165 --> 01:07:53,969 today, should there be some kind of broad message to 1579 01:07:53,969 --> 01:07:55,805 police departments, something stronger than 1580 01:07:55,805 --> 01:07:59,308 we've seen in the past to say, this is happening 1581 01:07:59,308 --> 01:08:00,910 too often? 1582 01:08:00,910 --> 01:08:03,212 That's not a language we've necessarily heard from the 1583 01:08:03,212 --> 01:08:07,550 President or the Attorney General that -- I'm seeing 1584 01:08:07,550 --> 01:08:12,521 April saying, yes, he has -- but that this needs to stop, 1585 01:08:12,521 --> 01:08:15,891 and that the police methods need to be criticized 1586 01:08:15,891 --> 01:08:16,892 more directly. 1587 01:08:16,892 --> 01:08:18,894 Mr. Earnest: I think the President has been pretty 1588 01:08:18,894 --> 01:08:20,896 outspoken on a lot of this, so I'd encourage you to 1589 01:08:20,895 --> 01:08:22,096 check his previous comments. 1590 01:08:22,096 --> 01:08:25,099 But the President has also been just as clear about the 1591 01:08:25,100 --> 01:08:27,603 respect that he has for our men and women in law 1592 01:08:27,603 --> 01:08:30,806 enforcement that put on the uniform every day. 1593 01:08:30,805 --> 01:08:32,808 They walk out the front door of their house prepared to 1594 01:08:32,808 --> 01:08:34,810 put their life on the line for people in the community 1595 01:08:34,810 --> 01:08:36,812 they're sworn to serve and protect. 1596 01:08:36,812 --> 01:08:38,080 That's an honorable profession. 1597 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:43,751 All the more reason that efforts to improve their 1598 01:08:43,752 --> 01:08:46,522 ability to do their job and to keep their community safe 1599 01:08:46,522 --> 01:08:49,225 is something that we should spend some time working on, 1600 01:08:49,225 --> 01:08:51,227 and that's exactly what the President's task force was 1601 01:08:51,227 --> 01:08:52,228 focused on. 1602 01:08:52,228 --> 01:08:54,230 That's what the Department of Justice has been focused, 1603 01:08:54,229 --> 01:08:56,232 and this will continue to be a priority moving forward. 1604 01:08:56,232 --> 01:08:58,234 The Press: Are any of them invited to the community 1605 01:08:58,234 --> 01:08:59,235 policing event? 1606 01:08:59,234 --> 01:09:01,237 Mr. Earnest: We can get you a list of people who are 1607 01:09:01,237 --> 01:09:02,605 involved in that event. 1608 01:09:02,604 --> 01:09:03,805 The Press: Josh, quickly before you go, any reaction 1609 01:09:03,805 --> 01:09:05,307 to Donald Trump visiting the border -- 1610 01:09:05,307 --> 01:09:06,407 Mr. Earnest: No. 1611 01:09:06,408 --> 01:09:06,976 The Press: -- and saying that the border - 1612 01:09:06,975 --> 01:09:10,379 (laughter). 1613 01:09:10,379 --> 01:09:10,813 The Press: It was a nice try. 1614 01:09:10,813 --> 01:09:12,248 The Press: Nice try.