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1 00:00:03,236 --> 00:00:04,070 Mr. Earnest: Good morning, everybody. 2 00:00:04,070 --> 00:00:08,541 Don't start off too many briefings by saying that. 3 00:00:08,541 --> 00:00:10,343 It's nice to see you all. 4 00:00:10,343 --> 00:00:18,884 We're doing this early today to accommodate the President's 5 00:00:18,885 --> 00:00:20,954 travel and the speaking event that he has a little 6 00:00:20,954 --> 00:00:22,014 after noon today. 7 00:00:22,020 --> 00:00:23,620 So we'll try to be quick. 8 00:00:23,623 --> 00:00:25,625 I do have one statement quickly at the top. 9 00:00:25,625 --> 00:00:27,794 As you know, some of your colleagues who are 10 00:00:27,794 --> 00:00:30,230 in the in-town travel pool today are not here right now. 11 00:00:30,230 --> 00:00:33,366 They're with the President who is visiting the Embassy 12 00:00:33,366 --> 00:00:35,835 of the Netherlands here in Washington, D.C., to sign 13 00:00:35,835 --> 00:00:38,271 a condolence book honoring those who were lost in the tragic 14 00:00:38,271 --> 00:00:41,908 shoot-down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 in Ukraine. 15 00:00:41,908 --> 00:00:43,768 So I don't anticipate that the President is going to have 16 00:00:43,768 --> 00:00:46,079 any remarks there, but there should be some footage that 17 00:00:46,079 --> 00:00:48,081 you guys will have access to of the President signing 18 00:00:48,081 --> 00:00:49,616 that condolence book. 19 00:00:49,616 --> 00:00:51,618 With that, Julie, do you want to get us started today? 20 00:00:51,618 --> 00:00:52,619 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 21 00:00:52,619 --> 00:00:54,954 Is there White House reaction to the federal appeals court ruling 22 00:00:54,954 --> 00:00:57,524 this morning that basically invalidates the healthcare 23 00:00:57,524 --> 00:01:00,293 subsidies for people in states that haven't set 24 00:01:00,293 --> 00:01:02,662 up the exchanges? 25 00:01:04,297 --> 00:01:05,364 Mr. Earnest: I know that there will be a statement coming 26 00:01:05,364 --> 00:01:06,732 from the Department of Justice on this. 27 00:01:06,733 --> 00:01:09,035 They obviously are representing the position 28 00:01:09,035 --> 00:01:11,003 of the United States government and the administration 29 00:01:11,004 --> 00:01:14,240 for the D.C. circuit, so I'd refer you to that statement. 30 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,875 I do have a couple of thoughts, though, 31 00:01:15,875 --> 00:01:17,644 you won't be surprised to hear. 32 00:01:17,644 --> 00:01:19,512 The first is it's important for people all across 33 00:01:19,512 --> 00:01:21,981 the country to understand that this ruling does not have 34 00:01:21,981 --> 00:01:24,750 any practical impact on their ability to continue 35 00:01:24,751 --> 00:01:27,353 to receive tax credits right now. 36 00:01:27,353 --> 00:01:29,589 Right now there are millions of Americans all across the country 37 00:01:29,589 --> 00:01:32,292 who are receiving tax credits from the federal government 38 00:01:32,292 --> 00:01:34,294 as a result of the Affordable Care Act that 39 00:01:34,294 --> 00:01:36,795 is making healthcare more affordable for them, 40 00:01:36,796 --> 00:01:39,566 and while this ruling is interesting to legal theorists, 41 00:01:39,566 --> 00:01:43,303 it has no practical impact on their tax credits right now. 42 00:01:43,303 --> 00:01:47,941 The second is there are four different cases of making this 43 00:01:47,941 --> 00:01:49,943 point that are making their way through 44 00:01:49,943 --> 00:01:52,178 the federal court system. 45 00:01:52,178 --> 00:01:55,648 Two of them have been dismissed at the district court level; 46 00:01:55,648 --> 00:01:58,985 two of them are awaiting their initial rulings. 47 00:01:58,985 --> 00:02:01,321 This, of course, is the appeal of one of those cases. 48 00:02:01,321 --> 00:02:07,794 So there is decidedly mixed legal opinion about this, 49 00:02:07,794 --> 00:02:08,862 but for those who are keeping score, 50 00:02:08,862 --> 00:02:10,797 we're still ahead two to one here. 51 00:02:10,797 --> 00:02:13,800 What I do anticipate the Department of Justice will 52 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,370 do is they will ask for a ruling from the full D.C. circuit. 53 00:02:17,370 --> 00:02:20,974 As you know, this was a decision that was issued just by three 54 00:02:20,974 --> 00:02:24,476 members of the D.C. circuit, two of whom ruled against 55 00:02:24,477 --> 00:02:27,213 the federal government and one agreed with 56 00:02:27,213 --> 00:02:28,982 the government's position. 57 00:02:28,982 --> 00:02:32,919 Now, it's important for people to also understand that some 58 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,921 of those district courts that have thrown out 59 00:02:34,921 --> 00:02:38,525 this case have been decided by judges who used 60 00:02:38,525 --> 00:02:41,027 some pretty strong rhetoric in doing so. 61 00:02:41,027 --> 00:02:43,196 There's a judge in this case at the district level who said, 62 00:02:43,196 --> 00:02:46,399 "There is simply no evidence in the statute itself or in the 63 00:02:46,399 --> 00:02:49,736 legislative history of any intent by Congress to support 64 00:02:49,736 --> 00:02:51,738 the claims that are made by the plaintiff." 65 00:02:51,738 --> 00:02:54,774 In another case that was making the same legal argument 66 00:02:54,774 --> 00:02:58,444 a judge wrote that the theory propounded by the plaintiffs 67 00:02:58,444 --> 00:03:01,214 was "not a viable theory." 68 00:03:01,214 --> 00:03:04,551 The last thing that's important -- and this is -- there's 69 00:03:04,551 --> 00:03:06,719 a lot of high-minded case law that's applied here; 70 00:03:06,719 --> 00:03:08,721 there's also an element of common sense that should 71 00:03:08,721 --> 00:03:10,823 be applied as well, which is that you don't need 72 00:03:10,823 --> 00:03:14,294 a fancy legal degree to understand that Congress 73 00:03:14,294 --> 00:03:17,397 intended for every eligible American to have access 74 00:03:17,397 --> 00:03:20,399 to tax credits that would lower their health care costs 75 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,402 regardless of whether it was state officials 76 00:03:22,402 --> 00:03:24,504 or federal officials who are running the marketplace. 77 00:03:24,504 --> 00:03:27,273 I think that is a pretty clear intent of the congressional law. 78 00:03:27,273 --> 00:03:31,411 This will work its way through the legal process and we are 79 00:03:31,411 --> 00:03:33,746 confident in the legal case that the Department of Justice 80 00:03:33,746 --> 00:03:34,747 will be making. 81 00:03:34,747 --> 00:03:36,182 The Press: Obviously, as these cases do work through 82 00:03:36,182 --> 00:03:38,184 the legal system, there could ultimately end up being 83 00:03:38,184 --> 00:03:41,154 a practical impact on people who are receiving subsidies. 84 00:03:41,154 --> 00:03:45,658 Can the health care law work effectively and continue 85 00:03:45,658 --> 00:03:49,896 to, as you say, be affordable for Americans without 86 00:03:49,896 --> 00:03:52,297 the subsidies being available in all states? 87 00:03:52,298 --> 00:03:54,901 Mr. Earnest: We are confident in the legal position that 88 00:03:54,901 --> 00:03:57,170 we have that millions of Americans -- 89 00:03:57,170 --> 00:03:58,738 The Press: If that legal position no longer becomes 90 00:03:58,738 --> 00:04:02,208 tenable, can the law work if these subsidies 91 00:04:02,208 --> 00:04:03,309 are not widely available? 92 00:04:03,309 --> 00:04:06,279 Mr. Earnest: Well, that is a hypothetical we may be able 93 00:04:06,279 --> 00:04:08,915 to entertain at some point, but right now we are 94 00:04:08,915 --> 00:04:15,154 confident in the legal basis that supports our case. 95 00:04:15,154 --> 00:04:17,589 The Department of Justice will litigate these claims through 96 00:04:17,589 --> 00:04:19,125 the federal court system. 97 00:04:19,125 --> 00:04:23,329 And again, our confidence is rooted in the fact that 98 00:04:23,329 --> 00:04:26,432 it is pretty obvious what the congressional intent was here. 99 00:04:26,432 --> 00:04:29,602 Their intent was for every eligible American who applied 100 00:04:29,602 --> 00:04:32,438 for tax credits to make their health care more affordable 101 00:04:32,438 --> 00:04:35,341 to have access to those tax credits regardless of whether 102 00:04:35,341 --> 00:04:37,343 it was state officials or federal officials who were 103 00:04:37,343 --> 00:04:38,344 running the marketplace. 104 00:04:38,344 --> 00:04:40,346 The Press: And if I could ask on a separate topic, 105 00:04:40,346 --> 00:04:42,382 can you give us some context on the President's decision 106 00:04:42,382 --> 00:04:46,152 to send Denis McDonough and Lisa Monaco to Germany today? 107 00:04:46,152 --> 00:04:49,722 Mr. Earnest: Well, you've seen the statement that has been put 108 00:04:49,722 --> 00:04:53,592 out -- I think the statement originated in Germany where 109 00:04:53,593 --> 00:04:57,130 the Chief of Staff and Ms. Monaco currently are. 110 00:04:59,499 --> 00:05:02,735 This meeting was the result of a telephone conversation between 111 00:05:02,735 --> 00:05:05,705 the President and Chancellor Merkel in the last week 112 00:05:05,705 --> 00:05:10,008 or so where they agreed that Mr. McDonough and Ms. Monaco, 113 00:05:10,009 --> 00:05:12,712 who are the President's Chief of Staff and his top 114 00:05:12,712 --> 00:05:14,881 Homeland Security Advisor, respectively -- that they 115 00:05:14,881 --> 00:05:17,984 would travel to Germany to meet with their counterparts 116 00:05:17,984 --> 00:05:20,019 to talk through some of the issues that have 117 00:05:20,019 --> 00:05:22,255 been covered in the media. 118 00:05:22,255 --> 00:05:25,591 It was an opportunity for them to meet and discuss in the 119 00:05:25,591 --> 00:05:28,461 course of intensive talks the state of bilateral relations 120 00:05:28,461 --> 00:05:30,963 and future cooperation. 121 00:05:30,963 --> 00:05:32,965 There were a full range of issues that were discussed, 122 00:05:32,965 --> 00:05:36,268 including intelligence and security cooperation. 123 00:05:36,269 --> 00:05:38,304 Mr. McDonough and his counterpart agreed to set 124 00:05:38,304 --> 00:05:41,974 up a structured dialogue to address concerns of both sides 125 00:05:41,974 --> 00:05:44,644 and establish guiding principles as the basis 126 00:05:44,644 --> 00:05:46,212 for continued and future cooperation. 127 00:05:46,212 --> 00:05:49,048 The Press: Did McDonough and Monaco bring with them any 128 00:05:49,048 --> 00:05:52,652 specific information or answers for the Germans on these 129 00:05:52,652 --> 00:05:55,253 two allegations of U.S. spies in Germany? 130 00:05:55,254 --> 00:05:58,458 Mr. Earnest: Well, I'm not going to get into the substance 131 00:05:58,458 --> 00:05:59,459 of the talks. 132 00:05:59,459 --> 00:06:04,497 I would describe the talks as productive and a useful trip. 133 00:06:04,497 --> 00:06:07,734 But as we've said a couple of times as it relates to these 134 00:06:07,734 --> 00:06:10,770 reports, it is the view of the United States that differences 135 00:06:10,770 --> 00:06:14,907 of opinion or differences of perspective on these kinds 136 00:06:14,907 --> 00:06:18,311 of matters are best resolved through established diplomatic 137 00:06:18,311 --> 00:06:22,281 and intelligence channels, and that's exactly what we're doing. 138 00:06:22,281 --> 00:06:23,282 Steve. 139 00:06:23,282 --> 00:06:25,284 The Press: What does that mean, structured dialogue? 140 00:06:25,284 --> 00:06:26,284 What does it mean? 141 00:06:26,285 --> 00:06:30,323 Mr. Earnest: I think it's simply the basis of future discussions 142 00:06:30,323 --> 00:06:32,024 on these kinds of issues. 143 00:06:32,024 --> 00:06:37,430 And again, it is our view that these kinds of differences 144 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:39,866 are best resolved through these private established 145 00:06:39,866 --> 00:06:41,901 channels and not litigated through the media. 146 00:06:41,901 --> 00:06:44,203 The Press: President Putin is saying Russia would use 147 00:06:44,203 --> 00:06:47,239 its influence to allow a full investigation into 148 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:48,241 the downed jet. 149 00:06:48,241 --> 00:06:52,277 Are you detecting a change in tone from the Kremlin? 150 00:06:52,278 --> 00:06:56,082 Mr. Earnest: Well, there was some news from that region 151 00:06:56,082 --> 00:06:57,650 that we welcome for a change. 152 00:06:57,650 --> 00:07:00,419 We welcome the news that most of the remains of those who 153 00:07:00,419 --> 00:07:03,722 perished in Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 as well 154 00:07:03,723 --> 00:07:05,725 as the black boxes are now in the hands 155 00:07:05,725 --> 00:07:07,727 of Dutch and Malaysian authorities. 156 00:07:07,727 --> 00:07:09,729 While that is one step in the right direction, 157 00:07:09,729 --> 00:07:11,931 international investigators led by the Dutch still 158 00:07:11,931 --> 00:07:16,135 need immediate and full access to the site. 159 00:07:16,135 --> 00:07:19,405 As you point out, Russia did say today that it will use its 160 00:07:19,405 --> 00:07:22,474 influence over the separatists to get them to fully cooperate, 161 00:07:22,475 --> 00:07:24,477 and we intend to hold the Russians to that. 162 00:07:24,477 --> 00:07:28,381 The Press: And so investigators still don't have access, though? 163 00:07:28,381 --> 00:07:31,082 Mr. Earnest: They don't have -- 164 00:07:31,083 --> 00:07:32,585 The Press: Are there still the intimidation tactics, 165 00:07:32,585 --> 00:07:33,919 the firing in the air and -- 166 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,688 Mr. Earnest: I think what we have seen is we have 167 00:07:35,688 --> 00:07:37,757 seen conditions on the ground improve. 168 00:07:37,757 --> 00:07:40,326 And that's illustrated by the fact that we've made progress 169 00:07:40,326 --> 00:07:42,628 on a couple of -- those two matters that I addressed 170 00:07:42,628 --> 00:07:43,628 at the top. 171 00:07:43,629 --> 00:07:46,866 I don't think we've seen yet the level of cooperation with 172 00:07:46,866 --> 00:07:49,969 international investigators that we'd like to see to this point. 173 00:07:49,969 --> 00:07:53,873 This is a complicated issue and one we anticipate that -- 174 00:07:53,873 --> 00:07:59,078 we anticipate it's going to require some work to get 175 00:07:59,078 --> 00:08:01,647 the kind of cooperation that we would like to see. 176 00:08:01,647 --> 00:08:06,185 But time is of the essence here. 177 00:08:06,185 --> 00:08:08,321 And as the President said yesterday, 178 00:08:08,321 --> 00:08:10,489 it is the least that those separatists could 179 00:08:10,489 --> 00:08:13,726 do to cooperate with international investigators, 180 00:08:13,726 --> 00:08:16,262 give them the access that they need to that site so that they 181 00:08:16,262 --> 00:08:19,198 can conduct a transparent investigation and determine 182 00:08:19,198 --> 00:08:21,067 what exactly happened. 183 00:08:21,067 --> 00:08:22,134 Jim. 184 00:08:22,134 --> 00:08:23,769 The Press: Anything new on the evidence 185 00:08:23,769 --> 00:08:28,207 in the plane crash investigation? 186 00:08:28,207 --> 00:08:30,810 I know yesterday some senior administration officials were 187 00:08:30,810 --> 00:08:34,447 telling reporters on background that the black boxes were 188 00:08:34,447 --> 00:08:37,250 not perhaps as important as the wreckage itself. 189 00:08:37,250 --> 00:08:41,220 And there are some reports about burn marks on some of the pieces 190 00:08:41,220 --> 00:08:43,022 of wreckage at the crash site. 191 00:08:43,022 --> 00:08:44,323 Is that a promising sign? 192 00:08:44,323 --> 00:08:47,560 Any new evidence to present that bolsters the U.S. case 193 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:48,327 as to what happened? 194 00:08:48,327 --> 00:08:50,563 Mr. Earnest: Well, there has been a lot of evidence 195 00:08:50,563 --> 00:08:52,798 that's already been presented that paints 196 00:08:52,798 --> 00:08:56,168 a pretty compelling picture. 197 00:08:56,168 --> 00:08:58,170 If you'll indulge me for a little bit here, 198 00:08:58,170 --> 00:09:00,171 I just want to review what that is. 199 00:09:00,172 --> 00:09:02,842 We've been saying for months, and in some settings the 200 00:09:02,842 --> 00:09:05,343 Russians have acknowledged, that they're actively supporting 201 00:09:05,344 --> 00:09:09,315 the rebels, the separatists in eastern Ukraine. 202 00:09:09,315 --> 00:09:11,484 In fact, some of the separatist leaders are actually 203 00:09:11,484 --> 00:09:13,686 of Russian citizenship. 204 00:09:13,686 --> 00:09:17,623 We've seen reports of heavy weapons moving across the 205 00:09:17,623 --> 00:09:20,192 Russian border into Ukraine. 206 00:09:20,192 --> 00:09:22,194 In fact, that was the reason for the sanctions regime 207 00:09:22,194 --> 00:09:24,964 that this administration anthnounced last week, 208 00:09:24,964 --> 00:09:27,233 was the continued evidence of heavy weapons moving 209 00:09:27,233 --> 00:09:29,834 from Russia into Ukraine. 210 00:09:29,835 --> 00:09:32,805 We've seen evidence that Russians are training 211 00:09:32,805 --> 00:09:34,306 separatists on how to use those weapons. 212 00:09:34,307 --> 00:09:37,877 Those weapons include anti-aircraft weapons. 213 00:09:37,877 --> 00:09:40,613 In fact, the separatists have bragged in the last several 214 00:09:40,613 --> 00:09:45,785 weeks of shooting down three different aircraft. 215 00:09:45,785 --> 00:09:49,355 And there's ample social media evidence to indicate 216 00:09:49,355 --> 00:09:52,291 that the separatists have access to the kind 217 00:09:52,291 --> 00:09:55,728 of SA-11 missile system that is capable of reaching 218 00:09:55,728 --> 00:09:58,064 aircraft that are flying at high altitudes. 219 00:09:58,064 --> 00:10:00,266 Now, the other thing that we know is that 220 00:10:00,266 --> 00:10:07,807 the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was downed by a missile 221 00:10:07,807 --> 00:10:10,142 that was fired from the ground. 222 00:10:10,142 --> 00:10:13,946 That missile was fired from a separatist-controlled area. 223 00:10:13,946 --> 00:10:18,384 And at the time, the Ukrainian military was not operating 224 00:10:18,384 --> 00:10:23,155 anti-aircraft weapons in that area at that time. 225 00:10:23,155 --> 00:10:26,459 After the plane was downed, there were ample social media 226 00:10:26,459 --> 00:10:31,964 accounts to indicate that an SA-11 system that appeared 227 00:10:31,964 --> 00:10:35,468 to be missing one specific missile was being transported 228 00:10:35,468 --> 00:10:38,304 back across the border from Ukraine to Russia. 229 00:10:38,304 --> 00:10:40,606 There were also social media accounts of separatists talking 230 00:10:40,606 --> 00:10:42,608 about shooting down an airplane. 231 00:10:42,608 --> 00:10:47,847 So there is a lot of evidence that's already been marshaled. 232 00:10:47,847 --> 00:10:51,050 The Press: Is it a circumstantial case at this 233 00:10:51,050 --> 00:10:51,617 point, to use a legal term? 234 00:10:51,617 --> 00:10:55,920 Mr. Earnest: Well, there will be a role for a more formal 235 00:10:55,921 --> 00:10:58,224 intelligence assessment to be presented. 236 00:10:58,224 --> 00:11:02,728 I do expect that you'll hear from intel officials later 237 00:11:02,728 --> 00:11:05,330 today who will have some more data to present 238 00:11:05,331 --> 00:11:10,136 and some more evidence to indicate -- I guess, some 239 00:11:10,136 --> 00:11:13,005 more evidence to educate you about what 240 00:11:13,005 --> 00:11:16,075 we know so far about that situation, but I will 241 00:11:16,075 --> 00:11:20,646 leave specific intelligence assessments to them. 242 00:11:20,646 --> 00:11:23,848 They're the experts who can analyze this data and can 243 00:11:23,849 --> 00:11:27,119 be more effective in drawing a more conclusive case. 244 00:11:27,119 --> 00:11:28,120 But I will leave that to them. 245 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,222 The Press: Apparently U.S. carriers are now making 246 00:11:30,222 --> 00:11:34,026 the decision to not fly over parts of Israel 247 00:11:34,026 --> 00:11:36,694 because of the violence down there. 248 00:11:36,695 --> 00:11:38,931 Does the administration, I guess, support that? 249 00:11:38,931 --> 00:11:42,701 Was the administration pivotal in making that 250 00:11:42,701 --> 00:11:44,703 change and asking the carriers to do this? 251 00:11:44,703 --> 00:11:47,305 Mr. Earnest: Well, as it relates to the airspace in Gaza, 252 00:11:47,306 --> 00:11:51,310 it's my understanding that the FAA has not issued any notices 253 00:11:51,310 --> 00:11:55,814 related to the ongoing violence in that region of the world. 254 00:11:55,815 --> 00:11:57,817 I do think this does serve to illustrate, though, 255 00:11:57,817 --> 00:12:00,753 that it's individual carriers who make the decision about 256 00:12:00,753 --> 00:12:03,689 their flight plans and whether or not to alter specific 257 00:12:03,689 --> 00:12:05,891 routes based on hostilities on the ground. 258 00:12:05,891 --> 00:12:08,026 The Press: Some people have raised the question about 259 00:12:08,027 --> 00:12:10,062 Malaysian Airlines and should they have been flying over 260 00:12:10,062 --> 00:12:12,064 that airspace in Ukraine. 261 00:12:12,064 --> 00:12:14,132 Does the administration have a take on that 262 00:12:14,133 --> 00:12:15,301 as to whether that was -- 263 00:12:15,301 --> 00:12:18,370 Mr. Earnest: Ultimately, it's individual carriers -- 264 00:12:18,370 --> 00:12:20,106 in this case, Malaysian Airlines -- who is responsible 265 00:12:20,106 --> 00:12:23,109 for determining the appropriate flight path. 266 00:12:23,109 --> 00:12:23,375 The Press: Okay. 267 00:12:23,375 --> 00:12:26,312 And one question on the trip this week that the President 268 00:12:26,312 --> 00:12:28,581 is taking out West to do some fundraising. 269 00:12:28,581 --> 00:12:32,418 He, I guess, was going to go on the Jimmy Kimmel Show but then 270 00:12:32,418 --> 00:12:36,722 that, I guess, booking was canceled by the White House. 271 00:12:36,722 --> 00:12:39,525 Was the White House concerned about the image that might 272 00:12:39,525 --> 00:12:41,861 be put out if the President was there on a late-night 273 00:12:41,861 --> 00:12:43,529 talk show with everything going on? 274 00:12:43,529 --> 00:12:45,531 Mr. Earnest: What I can say, Jim, 275 00:12:45,531 --> 00:12:48,166 is that we had been in touch with representatives 276 00:12:48,167 --> 00:12:50,169 of Mr. Kimmel's show about the possibility 277 00:12:50,169 --> 00:12:52,738 of participating -- about having the President participate 278 00:12:52,738 --> 00:12:54,140 in that program on this trip. 279 00:12:54,140 --> 00:12:58,744 We ultimately elected not to have the President do that 280 00:12:58,744 --> 00:13:01,947 interview over the course of this trip, 281 00:13:01,947 --> 00:13:06,619 and that is at least in part related to the challenges of 282 00:13:06,619 --> 00:13:12,057 doing a comedy show in the midst of some of these other more 283 00:13:12,057 --> 00:13:14,059 serious matters that the President is dealing with 284 00:13:14,059 --> 00:13:14,760 in the international scene. 285 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:15,694 The Press: This wasn't a good idea. 286 00:13:15,694 --> 00:13:17,729 Mr. Earnest: Well, at this point, we just elected 287 00:13:17,730 --> 00:13:20,166 not to do it. 288 00:13:20,166 --> 00:13:21,167 John. 289 00:13:21,167 --> 00:13:22,201 The Press: Thank you, Josh. 290 00:13:22,201 --> 00:13:23,269 Mr. Earnest: You're welcome. 291 00:13:23,269 --> 00:13:26,639 The Press: Getting back yesterday to the U.S. being 292 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:32,611 supportive of the European Union also joining in sanctions 293 00:13:32,611 --> 00:13:35,948 against Russia, you're obviously aware of the difference between 294 00:13:35,948 --> 00:13:39,218 Britain and France on the sale of the Mistral helicopter 295 00:13:39,218 --> 00:13:40,853 carriers to Russia. 296 00:13:40,853 --> 00:13:43,454 Does the U.S. have a dog in the fight, and does 297 00:13:43,455 --> 00:13:48,394 it believe that France and all of the EU members have 298 00:13:48,394 --> 00:13:51,397 to be united in order for sanctions to work? 299 00:13:51,397 --> 00:13:54,600 Mr. Earnest: Well, John, we have said many times that we believe 300 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,871 that sanctions would be most effective when they 301 00:13:58,871 --> 00:14:01,507 are closely coordinated with our international partners. 302 00:14:01,507 --> 00:14:03,876 That's why you've seen intensive discussions between 303 00:14:03,876 --> 00:14:06,411 the President and individual leaders, 304 00:14:06,412 --> 00:14:09,682 particularly in Western Europe, about the sanctions regime that 305 00:14:09,682 --> 00:14:14,420 should be put in place to further isolate Russia. 306 00:14:14,420 --> 00:14:17,423 So this has been a months-long endeavor. 307 00:14:17,423 --> 00:14:19,992 And there have been important steps that have been taken 308 00:14:19,992 --> 00:14:22,194 by the United States in coordinating with our 309 00:14:22,194 --> 00:14:25,164 partners to impose economic costs on Russia. 310 00:14:25,164 --> 00:14:27,733 There is ample evidence to indicate that the Russian 311 00:14:27,733 --> 00:14:33,171 economy has suffered as a result of those economic costs. 312 00:14:33,172 --> 00:14:37,776 As it relates specifically to the proposed military 313 00:14:37,776 --> 00:14:41,380 transaction between the French and the Russians, 314 00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:43,983 we have in the past -- I think the President was traveling 315 00:14:43,983 --> 00:14:50,421 in Brussels in June and he articulated some concerns about 316 00:14:50,422 --> 00:14:56,629 the sale of that military equipment to the Russians. 317 00:14:56,629 --> 00:14:58,864 Again, this is a little bit of a common-sense thing. 318 00:14:58,864 --> 00:15:01,634 We've seen ample evidence that the Russians are flouting 319 00:15:01,634 --> 00:15:05,704 international norms, supporting efforts to violate the 320 00:15:05,704 --> 00:15:09,275 territorial integrity of independent sovereign nations. 321 00:15:09,275 --> 00:15:12,845 It seems like a suboptimal time, if you will, 322 00:15:12,845 --> 00:15:17,883 to be transferring advanced military systems to them. 323 00:15:17,883 --> 00:15:20,386 So we've made our concerns known, 324 00:15:20,386 --> 00:15:23,088 and we will continue to work in close coordination with the 325 00:15:23,088 --> 00:15:28,827 British, the French, the Germans and others as we coordinate 326 00:15:28,827 --> 00:15:31,196 the effort to further isolate the Russian regime. 327 00:15:31,196 --> 00:15:33,198 The Press: You made concerns known to President Hollande? 328 00:15:33,198 --> 00:15:36,268 Mr. Earnest: Yes, I believe that the President had 329 00:15:36,268 --> 00:15:40,105 the opportunity to say this both privately and publicly. 330 00:15:40,105 --> 00:15:41,106 Olivier. 331 00:15:41,106 --> 00:15:43,108 The Press: Josh, I know how much you love getting 332 00:15:43,108 --> 00:15:44,108 ahead of announcements. 333 00:15:44,109 --> 00:15:49,515 This intelligence presentation -- to whom, what's the setting, 334 00:15:49,515 --> 00:15:51,483 who are the officials? 335 00:15:51,483 --> 00:15:54,386 And I definitely did not get that impression from either 336 00:15:54,386 --> 00:15:58,257 the briefing yesterday or the background briefing we had 337 00:15:58,257 --> 00:16:01,660 either that you guys felt any sort of pressure or had any 338 00:16:01,660 --> 00:16:04,863 intent to lay out more of an intelligence case 339 00:16:04,863 --> 00:16:06,865 than you already had. 340 00:16:06,865 --> 00:16:07,866 Obviously, I misread that. 341 00:16:07,866 --> 00:16:11,036 But did anything change in the last 24 hours that made 342 00:16:11,036 --> 00:16:12,771 this decision necessary? 343 00:16:12,771 --> 00:16:15,341 Mr. Earnest: No, I don't think that anything changed 344 00:16:15,341 --> 00:16:16,875 the calculus on that matter. 345 00:16:16,875 --> 00:16:19,411 In terms of the logistics, I'd refer you 346 00:16:19,411 --> 00:16:22,281 to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, 347 00:16:22,281 --> 00:16:24,282 because I think they'll have some more information 348 00:16:24,283 --> 00:16:26,819 about this later today. 349 00:16:26,819 --> 00:16:34,660 But, look, we want to be as forthcoming as we can, 350 00:16:34,660 --> 00:16:37,329 understanding that there are important intelligence equities 351 00:16:37,329 --> 00:16:42,867 to protect, about the evidence of what exactly happened. 352 00:16:42,868 --> 00:16:49,375 This is something that we would envision would be integrated 353 00:16:49,375 --> 00:16:53,412 with an ongoing forensic investigation at the crash site. 354 00:16:53,412 --> 00:16:56,382 I don't want to leave you or anyone with the impression that 355 00:16:56,382 --> 00:17:00,252 somehow whenever an intelligence assessment is arrived 356 00:17:00,252 --> 00:17:04,522 at by the U.S. intelligence community some way 357 00:17:04,522 --> 00:17:07,925 supersedes the ongoing work that's being performed 358 00:17:07,925 --> 00:17:09,027 on the ground. 359 00:17:09,027 --> 00:17:10,194 That work is important. 360 00:17:10,194 --> 00:17:14,599 That work will also give us important information about 361 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:18,236 what exactly transpired in this tragic circumstance. 362 00:17:18,237 --> 00:17:22,141 But we are working with the international community to try 363 00:17:22,141 --> 00:17:25,077 to make sure that international investigators have access 364 00:17:25,077 --> 00:17:27,746 to the site so that they can conduct that investigation 365 00:17:27,746 --> 00:17:31,683 while, at the same time, we're going to do our best 366 00:17:31,683 --> 00:17:34,253 to present the information that we have already obtained 367 00:17:34,253 --> 00:17:37,656 or assessed about what exactly happened last week. 368 00:17:37,656 --> 00:17:38,724 The Press: Are you in a position to say whether that 369 00:17:38,724 --> 00:17:42,226 intelligence assessment has been shared with, say, 370 00:17:42,227 --> 00:17:45,864 the Dutch and the Malaysians and the Ukrainians? 371 00:17:45,864 --> 00:17:48,901 Mr. Earnest: I'm not in a position to talk about how that 372 00:17:48,901 --> 00:17:52,137 intelligence has been handled, but you can try to Office 373 00:17:52,137 --> 00:17:54,673 of the DNI and maybe they will be able to share some 374 00:17:54,673 --> 00:17:56,842 additional light on that. 375 00:17:56,842 --> 00:17:58,377 Major. 376 00:17:58,377 --> 00:17:59,411 The Press: A couple things, Josh. 377 00:17:59,411 --> 00:18:02,448 There are reports that the EU is going to oppose a new round 378 00:18:02,448 --> 00:18:06,251 of sanctions against Russia after consultations today. 379 00:18:06,251 --> 00:18:08,754 Do you have any confirmation of that or any reaction to that? 380 00:18:08,754 --> 00:18:11,290 Mr. Earnest: I'm not in a position to confirm that. 381 00:18:11,290 --> 00:18:13,826 I know that these talks have been ongoing 382 00:18:13,826 --> 00:18:18,397 and are headed into the evening hours over in Europe. 383 00:18:18,397 --> 00:18:20,832 We certainly would welcome additional steps from 384 00:18:20,833 --> 00:18:23,068 the international community, principally our allies 385 00:18:23,068 --> 00:18:25,737 in Western Europe, that would impose additional 386 00:18:25,737 --> 00:18:27,172 economic costs in Russia. 387 00:18:27,172 --> 00:18:30,142 We, for rather obvious reasons, think that those additional 388 00:18:30,142 --> 00:18:31,143 costs are justified. 389 00:18:31,143 --> 00:18:33,879 The Press: Is there a triggering mechanism if the EU goes ahead 390 00:18:33,879 --> 00:18:36,715 and does another round and the United States might then follow 391 00:18:36,715 --> 00:18:39,016 suit, or is the United States government content with where 392 00:18:39,017 --> 00:18:41,954 it is in its own sanctions application against Russia? 393 00:18:41,954 --> 00:18:43,322 Mr. Earnest: Well, "content" is not the word that I would use. 394 00:18:43,322 --> 00:18:46,558 I think that we're continuing to review the sanctions regime 395 00:18:46,558 --> 00:18:48,594 that's in place, and we are going to continue to work 396 00:18:48,594 --> 00:18:51,096 with the international community to coordinate efforts 397 00:18:51,096 --> 00:18:53,098 to impose costs on Russia. 398 00:18:54,600 --> 00:19:01,106 And our willingness to consider adding additional costs 399 00:19:01,106 --> 00:19:03,442 is something that continues to be a live option. 400 00:19:03,442 --> 00:19:07,880 The Press: You mentioned that there's no practical effect 401 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,149 of this federal appeals court ruling today. 402 00:19:11,149 --> 00:19:13,685 Is there not a practical effect in that it creates 403 00:19:13,685 --> 00:19:16,187 an atmosphere of uncertainty? 404 00:19:16,188 --> 00:19:18,190 Mr. Earnest: That's what I was trying to clear up. 405 00:19:18,190 --> 00:19:20,225 The Press: Well, for those who are in the health care industry 406 00:19:20,225 --> 00:19:24,996 itself who are trying to comply, implement, follow, 407 00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:28,767 and are trying to understand if they're going to have patients 408 00:19:28,767 --> 00:19:32,404 who have subsidies or don't, doesn't that uncertainty itself 409 00:19:32,404 --> 00:19:35,374 have a practical effect as the law is implemented? 410 00:19:35,374 --> 00:19:37,910 Mr. Earnest: I don't think it does for two reasons. 411 00:19:37,910 --> 00:19:42,447 One is we feel very strong about the sound legal reasoning 412 00:19:42,447 --> 00:19:44,783 of the argument that the administration is making. 413 00:19:44,783 --> 00:19:47,351 The second is there's a clear, common-sense case to be made 414 00:19:47,352 --> 00:19:50,455 there, which is that the intent of Congress was to ensure that 415 00:19:50,455 --> 00:19:53,625 every eligible American who applied for tax credits to make 416 00:19:53,625 --> 00:19:56,228 their health insurance more affordable would have access 417 00:19:56,228 --> 00:19:58,564 to those tax credits whether or not the marketplace 418 00:19:58,564 --> 00:20:00,566 was operated by federal officials or state officials. 419 00:20:00,566 --> 00:20:03,735 The intent here is pretty clear, and we feel confident 420 00:20:03,735 --> 00:20:04,735 about our case. 421 00:20:04,736 --> 00:20:07,039 The Press: Just to be safe, is the administration 422 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:09,408 considering any legislative fix, if necessary, 423 00:20:09,408 --> 00:20:11,642 to clear up any ambiguity the court noted 424 00:20:11,643 --> 00:20:13,178 in the legislative language? 425 00:20:13,178 --> 00:20:15,314 Mr. Earnest: The President has said countless times that 426 00:20:15,314 --> 00:20:17,249 he's willing to work with Democrats and Republicans 427 00:20:17,249 --> 00:20:21,286 in Congress to make improvements to the law. 428 00:20:21,286 --> 00:20:24,790 But the prospects for that -- considering that Republicans 429 00:20:24,790 --> 00:20:28,427 have voted more than 50 times to repeal the entire law, 430 00:20:28,427 --> 00:20:31,964 the prospects for the kind of legislative fix that might 431 00:20:31,964 --> 00:20:36,601 actually improve the law seem rather unlikely. 432 00:20:36,602 --> 00:20:38,904 The Press: We've asked you about the structured dialogue. 433 00:20:38,904 --> 00:20:41,840 It sounds to me that there will now be a formal channel 434 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,276 of communications that did not exist before between this 435 00:20:45,277 --> 00:20:47,679 administration and the Merkel administration on these issues 436 00:20:47,679 --> 00:20:50,916 of intelligence and anything else that might crop up. 437 00:20:50,916 --> 00:20:52,918 But since the precipitating factor was intelligence, 438 00:20:52,918 --> 00:20:56,321 is that a fair understanding of this somewhat opaque 439 00:20:56,321 --> 00:20:58,924 language actually means? 440 00:20:58,924 --> 00:21:02,094 Mr. Earnest: I don't know that I would necessarily 441 00:21:02,094 --> 00:21:06,798 describe it as a new channel, primarily because 442 00:21:06,798 --> 00:21:11,236 conversations between Lisa Monaco, for example, 443 00:21:11,236 --> 00:21:15,407 and her counterpart in Germany are not unprecedented. 444 00:21:15,407 --> 00:21:17,442 There was a robust intelligence-sharing 445 00:21:17,442 --> 00:21:22,414 relationship that has existed between the United States 446 00:21:22,414 --> 00:21:24,216 and Germany for quite some time that even predated -- 447 00:21:24,216 --> 00:21:26,418 The Press: You don't send the Chief of Staff 448 00:21:26,418 --> 00:21:28,419 and the Chief Counterterrorism Advisor of the President 449 00:21:28,420 --> 00:21:30,422 to Berlin when everything is normal. 450 00:21:30,422 --> 00:21:32,057 Mr. Earnest: Well, I do think that the -- 451 00:21:32,057 --> 00:21:34,426 The Press: You would agree with that? 452 00:21:34,426 --> 00:21:37,495 Mr. Earnest: Well, I would agree with your observation that 453 00:21:37,496 --> 00:21:45,203 published reports indicate that there were a number of things 454 00:21:45,203 --> 00:21:47,873 that needed to be discussed in those private channels 455 00:21:47,873 --> 00:21:51,209 between U.S. officials and our German counterparts. 456 00:21:51,209 --> 00:21:56,882 We value the close and ongoing security cooperation and 457 00:21:56,882 --> 00:21:59,117 intelligence relationship that we have with the Germans. 458 00:21:59,117 --> 00:22:02,187 As I mentioned before, that is a relationship that significantly 459 00:22:02,187 --> 00:22:03,388 benefits the American people. 460 00:22:03,388 --> 00:22:05,456 It's also a relationship that benefits the German people. 461 00:22:05,457 --> 00:22:08,727 So it's in the interest of both sides to ensure that those 462 00:22:08,727 --> 00:22:10,095 channels remain open. 463 00:22:10,095 --> 00:22:11,196 They do. 464 00:22:11,196 --> 00:22:16,301 That security cooperation relationship continues to 465 00:22:16,301 --> 00:22:18,303 function at a high level. 466 00:22:19,905 --> 00:22:25,744 That said, if it is necessary for us to establish this 467 00:22:25,744 --> 00:22:28,647 structured dialogue to resolve some of the concerns that 468 00:22:28,647 --> 00:22:31,015 have been aired publicly, we're willing to do that, 469 00:22:31,016 --> 00:22:35,253 and that is a testament to our desire to resolve these 470 00:22:35,253 --> 00:22:40,591 differences of opinion in a way that both satisfies the Germans, 471 00:22:40,592 --> 00:22:43,428 but also in a way that protects the private nature 472 00:22:43,061 --> 00:22:46,898 The Press: On the President's trip this week, 0:22:43.428,1193:02:47.295 of the topic being discussed. 473 00:22:46,898 --> 00:22:49,434 apart from the Kimmel show, could you address what many 474 00:22:49,434 --> 00:22:52,170 Americans believe is either the trivial or unnecessarily 475 00:22:52,170 --> 00:22:56,108 distracting obligation of Presidents, including this one, 476 00:22:56,108 --> 00:22:59,511 to raise money in the course of conducting important 477 00:22:59,511 --> 00:23:00,445 matters of state? 478 00:23:00,445 --> 00:23:03,881 Mr. Earnest: I think the critical standard that everyone 479 00:23:03,882 --> 00:23:06,118 -- that I would suggest that people apply -- I think 480 00:23:06,118 --> 00:23:08,120 people can apply whatever standard they'd like, 481 00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:13,390 but my suggested standard would be whether or not those 482 00:23:13,391 --> 00:23:16,728 political activities interfere with the President's 483 00:23:16,728 --> 00:23:19,598 constitution responsibilities as the Commander-in-Chief 484 00:23:19,598 --> 00:23:21,633 of the United States of America. 485 00:23:21,633 --> 00:23:23,902 I think what was demonstrated on Thursday, 486 00:23:23,902 --> 00:23:26,004 at least in the context of last Thursday's schedule, 487 00:23:26,004 --> 00:23:30,408 that even in the midst of some urgent international matters, 488 00:23:30,408 --> 00:23:33,378 the President was able to attend to American interests around 489 00:23:33,378 --> 00:23:38,183 the globe while conducting the political functions that 490 00:23:38,183 --> 00:23:40,218 go along with the job. 491 00:23:40,218 --> 00:23:42,120 We anticipate that that will be the case this week. 492 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:45,223 That's why there have been no changes to the schedule 493 00:23:45,223 --> 00:23:46,858 announced thus far. 494 00:23:46,858 --> 00:23:49,027 But if we make some changes to the schedule, 495 00:23:49,027 --> 00:23:51,863 they will reflect the need for the President to be focused 496 00:23:51,863 --> 00:23:56,902 on -- they reflect the need for the President to rearrange 497 00:23:56,902 --> 00:24:02,040 that schedule to assure that he can fulfill his functions 498 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,207 as Commander-in-Chief. 499 00:24:03,208 --> 00:24:05,210 Right now, we don't anticipate that a change in schedule 500 00:24:05,210 --> 00:24:05,811 will be necessary. 501 00:24:05,811 --> 00:24:07,412 The Press: Before I let you go, on behalf of the Correspondents 502 00:24:07,412 --> 00:24:10,148 Association, I just want to lodge a formal complaint about 503 00:24:10,148 --> 00:24:11,882 the Apollo 11 event today. 504 00:24:11,883 --> 00:24:15,921 The astronauts, who are among the most visible, televised, 505 00:24:15,921 --> 00:24:17,923 national heroes this country has ever known, 506 00:24:17,923 --> 00:24:21,493 that entire program is financed by the American taxpayers -- 507 00:24:21,493 --> 00:24:24,929 stills -- a presentation of that limits television coverage 508 00:24:24,930 --> 00:24:25,931 of that event. 509 00:24:25,931 --> 00:24:29,234 We believe that that is a classic definition of something 510 00:24:29,234 --> 00:24:32,571 that should have the broadest press coverage imaginable 511 00:24:32,571 --> 00:24:35,106 and we are therefore lodging a complaint against 512 00:24:35,106 --> 00:24:36,675 your decision to keep us out. 513 00:24:36,675 --> 00:24:37,341 Mr. Earnest: Understood. 514 00:24:37,342 --> 00:24:37,976 I appreciate that. 515 00:24:37,976 --> 00:24:40,245 These are legitimate American heroes -- on that, 516 00:24:40,245 --> 00:24:41,612 you and I can agree. 517 00:24:41,613 --> 00:24:43,148 Carol. 518 00:24:43,148 --> 00:24:45,917 The Press: Is there any concern in the White House that 519 00:24:45,917 --> 00:24:50,589 if the EU or the U.S. were to move forward on sanctions 520 00:24:50,589 --> 00:24:52,557 against Russia at this particular time that 521 00:24:52,557 --> 00:24:55,660 that would somehow complicate the effort to get 522 00:24:55,660 --> 00:24:59,965 President Putin to intervene with the separatists to get 523 00:24:59,965 --> 00:25:03,735 access to the crash site? 524 00:25:03,735 --> 00:25:05,070 Mr. Earnest: I think the hope right now, 525 00:25:05,070 --> 00:25:08,907 as the EU considers additional steps, 526 00:25:10,141 --> 00:25:11,610 in concert with the United States, 527 00:25:11,610 --> 00:25:13,945 to impose additional costs on Russia would actually 528 00:25:13,945 --> 00:25:17,816 be to compel President Putin to live up to his 529 00:25:17,816 --> 00:25:20,986 assertion that he will intervene with separatists to allow 530 00:25:20,986 --> 00:25:22,587 access to that site. 531 00:25:22,587 --> 00:25:24,589 That would be part of that goal. 532 00:25:24,589 --> 00:25:28,793 I think there is a broader goal in mind beyond just that 533 00:25:28,793 --> 00:25:32,831 immediate priority, which is we do need to see Russia 534 00:25:32,831 --> 00:25:37,735 demonstrate some respect for Ukraine's territorial integrity. 535 00:25:37,736 --> 00:25:41,606 We do need Russia to stop supplying these heavy weapons 536 00:25:41,606 --> 00:25:43,909 to Russian-backed separatists. 537 00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:47,512 We saw the tragic consequences of that ongoing effort 538 00:25:47,512 --> 00:25:53,018 to provide weapons last week and, put simply, 539 00:25:53,018 --> 00:25:58,023 we need Russia to acknowledge their commitment to basic 540 00:25:58,023 --> 00:26:01,826 international norms and to the idea that it is entirely 541 00:26:01,826 --> 00:26:08,266 possible, even normal, for the nation of Ukraine to have 542 00:26:08,266 --> 00:26:12,304 a strong, cooperative, even close relationship with their 543 00:26:12,304 --> 00:26:19,511 neighbor, Russia, while at the same time having productive 544 00:26:19,511 --> 00:26:22,013 economic ties with the West. 545 00:26:22,013 --> 00:26:24,215 Those two things are not mutually exclusive. 546 00:26:24,215 --> 00:26:28,786 And if that is what the Ukrainian people desire -- 547 00:26:28,787 --> 00:26:30,755 and there are strong indications that that is what 548 00:26:30,755 --> 00:26:33,491 they would like to see for their country -- it is not 549 00:26:33,491 --> 00:26:38,229 appropriate for anybody, including the Russians, 550 00:26:38,229 --> 00:26:41,967 to interfere with the Ukrainians to make that kind 551 00:26:41,967 --> 00:26:44,269 of decision about the direction of their own country. 552 00:26:44,269 --> 00:26:46,504 The Press: Are there any plans for President Obama 553 00:26:46,504 --> 00:26:49,908 to personally make the case to Putin? 554 00:26:49,908 --> 00:26:52,276 Mr. Earnest: I don't have any phone calls to read out at this 555 00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:55,547 point, but we'll certainly keep you appraised of any -- 556 00:26:55,547 --> 00:26:56,348 The Press: -- any you anticipate? 557 00:26:56,348 --> 00:26:59,050 I mean, all the other leaders have spoken with 558 00:26:59,050 --> 00:27:01,119 him since this happened. 559 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,023 Mr. Earnest: I'm not aware right now of any scheduled telephone 560 00:27:05,023 --> 00:27:06,992 calls between President Putin and President Obama, 561 00:27:06,992 --> 00:27:09,060 but if that changes we'll let you know. 562 00:27:09,060 --> 00:27:09,661 Ed. 563 00:27:09,661 --> 00:27:12,697 The Press: Josh, on health care, I understand what you're saying 564 00:27:12,697 --> 00:27:16,167 about the legal aspects, and it seems like conservatives are 565 00:27:16,167 --> 00:27:18,136 even acknowledging that the Affordable Care Act 566 00:27:18,136 --> 00:27:20,105 is likely to survive this. 567 00:27:20,105 --> 00:27:22,340 But will you acknowledge that it could be a bit 568 00:27:22,340 --> 00:27:26,711 messier if 36 states don't have these subsidies? 569 00:27:26,711 --> 00:27:27,779 Mr. Earnest: No. 570 00:27:27,779 --> 00:27:31,516 What I believe and what this administration believes is that 571 00:27:31,516 --> 00:27:37,222 the legal basis for our case is strong and we have effective 572 00:27:37,222 --> 00:27:39,491 advocates at the Department of Justice who will be making that 573 00:27:39,491 --> 00:27:41,493 case before the D.C. circuit. 574 00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:44,129 It is pretty clear even to those of us that don't have a fancy 575 00:27:44,129 --> 00:27:47,232 legal degree that the intent of Congress was to ensure that 576 00:27:47,232 --> 00:27:50,502 every eligible American would have access to tax credits 577 00:27:50,502 --> 00:27:51,668 that would lower their health care costs. 578 00:27:51,669 --> 00:27:54,572 The Press: But legal experts are also citing various Supreme 579 00:27:54,572 --> 00:27:57,841 Court decisions, one written by Justice Scalia on the right, 580 00:27:57,842 --> 00:28:00,545 one written by Justice Kagan, who was nominated by this 581 00:28:00,545 --> 00:28:04,883 President, that take dim views of the idea of the government 582 00:28:04,883 --> 00:28:07,819 and government bureaucrats rewriting laws that 583 00:28:07,819 --> 00:28:09,821 don't turn out as they expected. 584 00:28:09,821 --> 00:28:12,490 So given that's out there as well, 585 00:28:12,490 --> 00:28:16,194 why are you so confident that your legal basis is sound? 586 00:28:16,194 --> 00:28:19,531 Mr. Earnest: Well, the other legal expert that I would cite 587 00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:22,434 is the district judge who ruled in this case who would 588 00:28:22,434 --> 00:28:26,404 anticipate that the government would implement the law 589 00:28:26,404 --> 00:28:28,373 in line with Congress's intent. 590 00:28:28,373 --> 00:28:33,178 And this judge -- who ruled in this case at the district level, 591 00:28:33,178 --> 00:28:36,114 admittedly -- did say that there is simply no evidence 592 00:28:36,114 --> 00:28:41,486 in the statute itself or the legislative history of any 593 00:28:41,486 --> 00:28:43,855 intent by Congress to support the claims that are made 594 00:28:43,855 --> 00:28:45,090 by the plaintiff. 595 00:28:45,090 --> 00:28:47,759 So I guess to put it more simply, 596 00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:49,761 it's the view of this administration, 597 00:28:49,761 --> 00:28:52,062 as agreed by this judge, that the way that we have implemented 598 00:28:52,063 --> 00:28:54,332 the Affordable Care Act to maximize the benefits for 599 00:28:54,332 --> 00:28:56,434 people all across the country -- millions of Americans 600 00:28:56,434 --> 00:28:58,703 are benefitting from this right now -- that that 601 00:28:58,703 --> 00:29:03,322 is cleanly in line with the easily understood intent 602 00:29:03,675 --> 00:29:03,774 of the United States Congress. 603 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,011 The Press: I want to quickly voice my support for what Major 604 00:29:07,011 --> 00:29:09,347 was saying about access, but I will not belabor the point. 605 00:29:09,347 --> 00:29:10,615 I do want to follow up on -- 606 00:29:10,615 --> 00:29:11,616 Mr. Earnest: Duly noted. 607 00:29:11,616 --> 00:29:12,584 The Press: Thank you. 608 00:29:12,584 --> 00:29:14,586 I want to follow, though, on his substantive question 609 00:29:14,586 --> 00:29:16,588 about the President's schedule this week. 610 00:29:16,588 --> 00:29:19,456 You gave kind of a clinical response that the functions 611 00:29:19,457 --> 00:29:21,459 of being Commander-in-Chief can be dealt with. 612 00:29:21,459 --> 00:29:23,461 And I understand the presidency follows you whether you're 613 00:29:23,461 --> 00:29:25,463 going to -- this President goes to Martha's Vineyard 614 00:29:25,463 --> 00:29:27,465 or the last President went to Crawford, Texas. 615 00:29:27,465 --> 00:29:29,434 You can deal -- you can have secure phone calls, et cetera. 616 00:29:29,434 --> 00:29:31,436 What about the President's time? 617 00:29:31,436 --> 00:29:33,937 What about the fact that there's five work days this week and 618 00:29:33,938 --> 00:29:35,573 three of them he's fundraising? 619 00:29:35,573 --> 00:29:38,510 Mr. Earnest: Well, I will hazard a guess that a significant 620 00:29:38,510 --> 00:29:40,612 portion of the President's time each of those days will 621 00:29:40,612 --> 00:29:46,618 be to participating in the presidential daily briefing, 622 00:29:49,087 --> 00:29:51,456 getting updates from his national security team about the 623 00:29:51,456 --> 00:29:55,860 situation on the ground, making phone calls to world leaders, 624 00:29:55,860 --> 00:29:58,062 consulting with his national security officials who are 625 00:29:58,062 --> 00:30:00,231 traveling across the world -- whether it's his Chief of Staff 626 00:30:00,231 --> 00:30:02,400 traveling to Germany, or his Secretary of State 627 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,236 who is currently in Cairo right now. 628 00:30:05,236 --> 00:30:07,238 The fact of the matter is, the President, 629 00:30:07,238 --> 00:30:10,408 like most professionals, has the capability to deal with 630 00:30:10,408 --> 00:30:14,044 more than one priority at a time, and particularly, 631 00:30:14,045 --> 00:30:18,149 somebody who has the trappings of the presidency alongside him. 632 00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:19,184 He's got his own airplane. 633 00:30:19,184 --> 00:30:20,918 He's got dedicated phone lines. 634 00:30:20,919 --> 00:30:24,889 He has senior advisors who will be accompanying him every step 635 00:30:24,889 --> 00:30:28,025 of the way to make sure that he has access to the information 636 00:30:28,026 --> 00:30:30,895 and technology necessary to represent American interests 637 00:30:30,895 --> 00:30:34,065 in the midst of these challenging international times. 638 00:30:34,065 --> 00:30:36,067 The Press: Right, and again, I understand he has all 639 00:30:36,067 --> 00:30:38,336 the trappings, but there's no concern about the image that -- 640 00:30:38,336 --> 00:30:40,572 yes, he can have these calls, but his schedule 641 00:30:40,572 --> 00:30:43,174 is basically dominated by fundraising this week. 642 00:30:43,174 --> 00:30:46,543 Mr. Earnest: Maybe the public schedule that you see, 643 00:30:46,544 --> 00:30:47,045 but what you -- 644 00:30:47,045 --> 00:30:48,079 The Press: What other meetings is he having that 645 00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:50,548 we're not seeing? 646 00:30:50,548 --> 00:30:51,516 Mr. Earnest: What will be clear to you as the President goes 647 00:30:51,516 --> 00:30:56,554 through the next several days is that he will be paying all 648 00:30:56,554 --> 00:30:58,623 of the necessary attention to make sure that American 649 00:30:58,623 --> 00:31:01,659 interests are represented in each of these circumstances. 650 00:31:01,659 --> 00:31:03,661 Again, he can do that through phone calls. 651 00:31:03,661 --> 00:31:06,064 He can do that through conversations with staff either 652 00:31:06,064 --> 00:31:08,866 in Washington, around the globe, or traveling with 653 00:31:08,866 --> 00:31:10,368 him along the West Coast. 654 00:31:10,368 --> 00:31:12,370 That will be the urgent priority. 655 00:31:12,370 --> 00:31:14,371 And I guess this is the other important point. 656 00:31:14,372 --> 00:31:16,374 If it becomes clear that there is something that the President 657 00:31:16,374 --> 00:31:19,444 is not able to do from the road that is critical to advancing 658 00:31:19,444 --> 00:31:22,914 American interests, we will alter the schedule to ensure 659 00:31:22,914 --> 00:31:25,984 that the President can fulfill those responsibilities. 660 00:31:25,984 --> 00:31:26,985 Peter. 661 00:31:26,985 --> 00:31:29,320 The Press: Can I ask a question following up on the Apollo 11 662 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,589 anniversary, 45th anniversary this week? 663 00:31:31,589 --> 00:31:34,058 We heard from a former NASA administrator this week who 664 00:31:34,058 --> 00:31:36,160 said given the fact that we now -- the U.S. relies 665 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,630 on Russian rockets to take our astronauts 666 00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:40,865 to the International Space Station, he said, 667 00:31:40,865 --> 00:31:43,167 we are in a "hostage situation. 668 00:31:43,167 --> 00:31:45,736 Russia can decide that no more U.S. astronauts will 669 00:31:45,737 --> 00:31:46,971 launch to the ISS. 670 00:31:46,971 --> 00:31:49,340 And that's not a position that I want our nation to be in." 671 00:31:49,340 --> 00:31:51,809 Is that a position that our nation should be in? 672 00:31:51,809 --> 00:31:54,312 And are there concerns given the new hostilities between 673 00:31:54,312 --> 00:31:55,413 the U.S. and Russia? 674 00:31:55,413 --> 00:31:58,149 Mr. Earnest: Well, Peter, as we've talked a number 675 00:31:58,149 --> 00:32:00,251 of times, the relationship between the United States 676 00:32:00,251 --> 00:32:02,654 and Russia is multifaceted. 677 00:32:02,654 --> 00:32:05,223 We certainly do cooperate closely with the Russians when 678 00:32:05,223 --> 00:32:06,724 it comes to our space program. 679 00:32:06,724 --> 00:32:08,760 But we're also closely cooperating with the Russians 680 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,030 when it comes to dealing with Iran in the context 681 00:32:12,030 --> 00:32:15,133 of the P5-plus-1 talks to resolve the international 682 00:32:15,133 --> 00:32:18,503 community's concerns about the Iranian nuclear program. 683 00:32:18,503 --> 00:32:22,572 We also are coordinating at a different level as it relates 684 00:32:22,573 --> 00:32:26,944 to the situation in Gaza and the Middle East. 685 00:32:26,944 --> 00:32:29,213 We have an important relationship with Russia. 686 00:32:29,213 --> 00:32:31,416 The other example -- I left out the best example. 687 00:32:31,416 --> 00:32:35,285 We worked very closely with Russia to eliminate 688 00:32:35,286 --> 00:32:39,023 the declared chemical weapons stockpile from Syria just 689 00:32:39,023 --> 00:32:40,024 in the last month or so. 690 00:32:40,024 --> 00:32:42,025 Currently those chemical weapons are being destroyed 691 00:32:42,026 --> 00:32:44,228 aboard a U.S. ship out at sea. 692 00:32:44,228 --> 00:32:46,464 We have acted with the international community, 693 00:32:46,464 --> 00:32:48,866 including the Russians, who played an important role, 694 00:32:48,866 --> 00:32:50,868 to make sure that those chemical weapons couldn't be used 695 00:32:50,868 --> 00:32:53,538 by the Assad regime and couldn't be used by terrorists who 696 00:32:53,538 --> 00:32:55,540 were able to get their hands on those chemical weapons. 697 00:32:55,540 --> 00:32:57,542 That made the world a safer place, 698 00:32:57,542 --> 00:33:00,410 and that is the direct result of close cooperation between 699 00:33:00,411 --> 00:33:02,413 the U.S. government and the Russian government. 700 00:33:02,413 --> 00:33:04,415 What continues to be true, however, 701 00:33:04,415 --> 00:33:06,818 is that Russia does have important responsibilities as it 702 00:33:06,818 --> 00:33:10,555 relates to Ukraine to make sure that they're adhering to broadly 703 00:33:10,555 --> 00:33:14,192 accepted international norms about the right of sovereign 704 00:33:14,192 --> 00:33:17,562 countries to make their own decisions about the future 705 00:33:17,562 --> 00:33:18,562 of their country. 706 00:33:18,563 --> 00:33:20,565 The Press: So simply put, you disagree with the assessment 707 00:33:20,565 --> 00:33:22,567 that we are in a "hostage situation" in terms of our 708 00:33:22,567 --> 00:33:24,569 ability to travel in space right now? 709 00:33:24,569 --> 00:33:27,071 Mr. Earnest: I think what I would say is that we have clear 710 00:33:27,071 --> 00:33:29,273 differences of opinion with the Russians about the way that 711 00:33:29,273 --> 00:33:32,342 they've handled -- the way that they've conducted themselves 712 00:33:32,343 --> 00:33:33,411 when it comes to Ukraine. 713 00:33:33,411 --> 00:33:35,747 But it doesn't prevent us from accomplishing other 714 00:33:35,747 --> 00:33:39,183 priorities in cooperation with the Russians. 715 00:33:39,183 --> 00:33:41,386 The Press: There's been a lot of international outrage associated 716 00:33:41,386 --> 00:33:44,187 with the giant disparity in terms of the number of 717 00:33:44,188 --> 00:33:47,358 casualties on the Israeli side versus the Palestinian side, 718 00:33:47,358 --> 00:33:49,726 given the crisis taking place in that country -- the number 719 00:33:49,727 --> 00:33:52,463 approaching 600 or more on the Palestinian side; 720 00:33:52,463 --> 00:33:55,767 number just shy of 30, I think, largely Israeli soldiers, 721 00:33:55,767 --> 00:33:57,235 on the Israeli side. 722 00:33:57,235 --> 00:33:59,404 The U.S. announced that it would provide more than 723 00:33:59,404 --> 00:34:02,140 $40 million in humanitarian aid to the Palestinians. 724 00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:05,543 The U.S. provides I think it's above $3 billion 725 00:34:05,543 --> 00:34:08,078 in aid annually to Israel. 726 00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:10,348 Is there any concern in the disparity in the aid 727 00:34:10,348 --> 00:34:12,350 that the U.S. provides, especially given the fact 728 00:34:12,350 --> 00:34:14,085 that supporting Israel's 729 00:34:14,085 --> 00:34:17,855 military efforts and at the same time supporting efforts to help 730 00:34:17,855 --> 00:34:19,223 those victims on the other side? 731 00:34:19,223 --> 00:34:21,025 We're on both sides of this. 732 00:34:21,025 --> 00:34:24,629 Mr. Earnest: Well, Peter, I think many people will agree 733 00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:28,299 that every single life that has been lost in this conflict, 734 00:34:28,299 --> 00:34:30,501 when it comes to innocent civilians, 735 00:34:30,501 --> 00:34:33,538 both Israeli and Palestinian, is a tragedy. 736 00:34:33,538 --> 00:34:37,875 And our hearts go out to the families, 737 00:34:37,875 --> 00:34:40,511 the Israeli families and the Palestinian families, 738 00:34:40,511 --> 00:34:43,815 who have lost innocent loved ones in this terrible conflict. 739 00:34:43,815 --> 00:34:46,050 That's why you have seen the Secretary of State travel 740 00:34:46,050 --> 00:34:50,888 to the region to try to get both sides to agree to the terms 741 00:34:50,888 --> 00:34:53,524 of a cease-fire that had previously been in place. 742 00:34:53,524 --> 00:34:57,462 It's why you've heard the President get on the phone with 743 00:34:57,462 --> 00:35:00,765 world leaders, including the Israeli Prime Minister, 744 00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:05,203 to try to bring this violence to an end. 745 00:35:05,203 --> 00:35:07,338 It's also why you've seen the commitment of U.S. 746 00:35:07,338 --> 00:35:09,273 resources to organizations on the Palestinian side 747 00:35:09,273 --> 00:35:14,612 to try to meet the basic humanitarian needs -- 748 00:35:14,612 --> 00:35:16,614 The Press: But is $40-plus million enough to meet 749 00:35:16,614 --> 00:35:18,316 the humanitarian needs of the Palestinians? 750 00:35:18,316 --> 00:35:19,484 Mr. Earnest: It certainly is a start, 751 00:35:19,484 --> 00:35:20,985 and it will certainly make a difference. 752 00:35:20,985 --> 00:35:23,754 But what will make the most difference is both sides 753 00:35:23,754 --> 00:35:28,426 coming together and agreeing to that cease-fire. 754 00:35:28,426 --> 00:35:32,964 And this has to start with Hamas ending the barrage of rockets 755 00:35:32,964 --> 00:35:35,399 that they're firing aimed squarely at Israeli civilians. 756 00:35:35,399 --> 00:35:37,401 I'll also point out that those Israeli civilians are protected 757 00:35:37,401 --> 00:35:44,008 by an Iron Dome system that was developed and implemented 758 00:35:44,008 --> 00:35:46,544 in cooperation with U.S. officials to protect 759 00:35:46,544 --> 00:35:47,912 the lives of Israeli civilians. 760 00:35:47,912 --> 00:35:52,049 So you are right to assess that there are a number of different 761 00:35:52,049 --> 00:35:54,585 ways where the United States has intervened to try to protect 762 00:35:54,585 --> 00:35:57,622 the lives and welfare of innocent civilians on both sides 763 00:35:57,622 --> 00:36:00,357 of this conflict, and trying to get both sides to agree 764 00:36:00,358 --> 00:36:03,761 to a cease-fire to reinstate the terms of the November 2012 765 00:36:03,761 --> 00:36:06,564 cease-fire is a continuation of that effort. 766 00:36:06,564 --> 00:36:09,000 The Press: Finally, we've litigated largely the situation 767 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,269 of the optics associated with fundraising on the West Coast 768 00:36:11,269 --> 00:36:13,770 this week, but the President does arrive in Washington State 769 00:36:13,771 --> 00:36:15,773 today for a pair of fundraisers. 770 00:36:15,773 --> 00:36:17,942 It's also a state that right now is dealing with the worst 771 00:36:17,942 --> 00:36:21,445 wildfire in that state's history -- 150-plus homes 772 00:36:21,445 --> 00:36:22,413 have been lost. 773 00:36:22,413 --> 00:36:24,815 Has the President been involved in any conversations 774 00:36:24,815 --> 00:36:26,684 with the Governor of that state, Jay Inslee? 775 00:36:26,684 --> 00:36:30,187 Does he have any intentions to make a last-minute trip out 776 00:36:30,187 --> 00:36:32,723 there to visit with some of those people who lost 777 00:36:32,723 --> 00:36:34,058 everything in the destruction? 778 00:36:34,058 --> 00:36:36,093 Mr. Earnest: I don't have any updates to the President's 779 00:36:36,093 --> 00:36:38,162 schedule to announce, but the President this morning did 780 00:36:38,162 --> 00:36:41,732 receive a briefing from his homeland security team about 781 00:36:41,732 --> 00:36:44,402 the latest on the wildfire situation that's raging 782 00:36:44,402 --> 00:36:46,404 in Washington State and in some places 783 00:36:46,404 --> 00:36:47,805 in Western Canada as well. 784 00:36:47,805 --> 00:36:49,807 When the President arrives in Washington, 785 00:36:49,807 --> 00:36:52,176 he will get an in-person briefing from the Governor about 786 00:36:52,176 --> 00:36:55,712 the response to those wildfires and to get an assessment about 787 00:36:55,713 --> 00:36:58,349 how local communities in Washington State are being 788 00:36:58,349 --> 00:37:00,017 affected by the wildfires. 789 00:37:00,017 --> 00:37:04,321 I also want to point out that included in the supplemental 790 00:37:04,322 --> 00:37:06,624 appropriations request that this administration forwarded 791 00:37:06,624 --> 00:37:10,528 to Congress two or three weeks ago were additional 792 00:37:10,528 --> 00:37:15,832 sums of money dedicated to responding to wildfires 793 00:37:15,833 --> 00:37:17,201 throughout the American West. 794 00:37:17,201 --> 00:37:20,638 Unfortunately, we have seen congressional Republicans 795 00:37:20,638 --> 00:37:24,674 indicate a willingness to obstruct that funding. 796 00:37:24,675 --> 00:37:26,377 That is disappointing. 797 00:37:26,377 --> 00:37:29,413 But we're going to continue to keep pushing on Congress to make 798 00:37:29,413 --> 00:37:32,583 sure we have the resources that we can bring to bear to meet the 799 00:37:32,583 --> 00:37:35,920 needs of those communities that are affected by wildfires. 800 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,921 Roger. 801 00:37:36,921 --> 00:37:38,254 The Press: Thank you. 802 00:37:38,255 --> 00:37:39,256 Back to Ukraine. 803 00:37:39,256 --> 00:37:41,926 How much does the administration believe what happened 804 00:37:41,926 --> 00:37:45,429 with the separatists in Ukraine and the Malaysian plane 805 00:37:45,429 --> 00:37:50,801 is a reflection of Russia, and how much a reflection 806 00:37:50,801 --> 00:37:57,975 of the risks of untrained rebels having access to weapons? 807 00:37:57,975 --> 00:38:00,478 Mr. Earnest: Well, as I pointed out, Roger, 808 00:38:00,478 --> 00:38:04,682 there are some basic facts that we know about the situation 809 00:38:04,682 --> 00:38:05,683 on the ground in Ukraine. 810 00:38:05,683 --> 00:38:08,285 We know that for months now heavy weapons have been moving 811 00:38:08,285 --> 00:38:11,455 across the border from Russia into Ukraine. 812 00:38:11,455 --> 00:38:15,558 We know that the Russians have been training Russian-backed 813 00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:17,695 separatists in the use of those weapons, 814 00:38:17,695 --> 00:38:20,364 including anti-aircraft weapons. 815 00:38:20,364 --> 00:38:22,800 We know that the separatists have claimed credit for shooting 816 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,303 down three different aircraft in the last several weeks. 817 00:38:26,303 --> 00:38:29,373 And we've seen the same social media reports that you have seen 818 00:38:29,373 --> 00:38:35,346 that indicate separatists did at one point on Thursday have 819 00:38:35,346 --> 00:38:41,585 possession of an SA-11 system that is capable of reaching 820 00:38:41,585 --> 00:38:43,854 aircraft that are flying at high altitudes. 821 00:38:43,854 --> 00:38:46,057 We also know that it was a missile that was fired from 822 00:38:46,057 --> 00:38:51,962 the ground that downed the doomed Malaysian jetliner. 823 00:38:51,962 --> 00:38:53,964 We know that that missile was fired from 824 00:38:53,964 --> 00:38:56,033 separatist-controlled territory. 825 00:38:56,033 --> 00:38:58,703 And we know that the Ukrainian military was not operating 826 00:38:58,703 --> 00:39:02,173 anti-aircraft weapons in that area at that time. 827 00:39:02,173 --> 00:39:06,377 So we have expressed our concern about these circumstances, 828 00:39:06,377 --> 00:39:09,313 specifically Russia's willingness to provide heavy 829 00:39:09,313 --> 00:39:11,582 weapons to the separatists, on many, many occasions. 830 00:39:11,582 --> 00:39:17,421 In fact, we explained that one of the reasons that the 831 00:39:17,421 --> 00:39:20,825 President had decided to put in place tougher sanctions against 832 00:39:20,825 --> 00:39:24,361 Russia last Wednesday, the day before the jetliner was downed, 833 00:39:24,361 --> 00:39:29,033 was because Russia continued to provide these heavy weapons 834 00:39:29,033 --> 00:39:31,301 to Russian-backed separatists. 835 00:39:31,302 --> 00:39:33,704 That clearly has had dangerous consequences for 836 00:39:33,704 --> 00:39:35,206 the people of Ukraine. 837 00:39:35,206 --> 00:39:38,109 Unfortunately, it has had tragic consequences for innocent 838 00:39:38,109 --> 00:39:40,578 civilians from countries around the world now. 839 00:39:40,578 --> 00:39:44,215 So we're going to continue to compel the Russians to shut down 840 00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:46,817 the border and to stop providing heavy weapons 841 00:39:46,817 --> 00:39:50,387 and materiel to Russian-backed separatists in Ukraine. 842 00:39:50,387 --> 00:39:52,857 The Press: Is there any training going on that intel shows? 843 00:39:52,857 --> 00:39:55,359 Mr. Earnest: We have seen some evidence that the Russians 844 00:39:55,359 --> 00:39:57,361 actually are training Russian-backed separatists 845 00:39:57,361 --> 00:39:58,462 to use some of this equipment. 846 00:39:58,462 --> 00:39:59,396 The Press: Still training? 847 00:39:59,396 --> 00:40:01,932 Mr. Earnest: Well, I don't have an up-to-date, 848 00:40:01,932 --> 00:40:04,401 up-to-the-minute assessment to provide you, 849 00:40:04,401 --> 00:40:06,537 but we know that that has happened with some 850 00:40:06,537 --> 00:40:08,439 frequency in the past. 851 00:40:08,439 --> 00:40:09,173 Jon. 852 00:40:09,173 --> 00:40:12,810 The Press: Josh, back to the D.C. circuit court opinion. 853 00:40:12,810 --> 00:40:17,782 I understand you believe you'll win on appeal, 854 00:40:17,782 --> 00:40:21,452 but if this opinion is upheld, does it effectively gut 855 00:40:21,452 --> 00:40:26,457 Obamacare by eliminating up to 5 million subsidies? 856 00:40:26,457 --> 00:40:29,160 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jon, as you point out, 857 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,795 there are millions of Americans across the country 858 00:40:30,795 --> 00:40:33,397 who do benefit in a very important way from 859 00:40:33,397 --> 00:40:35,232 the Affordable Affordable Care Act. 860 00:40:35,232 --> 00:40:37,601 Millions of Americans are eligible for tax credits that 861 00:40:37,601 --> 00:40:40,271 make their health insurance more affordable for them. 862 00:40:40,271 --> 00:40:43,374 That is one of the hallmark achievements of the Affordable 863 00:40:43,374 --> 00:40:46,477 Care Act, and it is clear that the intent of Congress was 864 00:40:46,477 --> 00:40:49,446 to make sure that every eligible American had access to those 865 00:40:49,446 --> 00:40:53,183 tax credits, whether or not the marketplace was operated 866 00:40:53,184 --> 00:40:55,252 by federal officials or by local state officials. 867 00:40:55,252 --> 00:40:57,955 So we feel very confident in the legal case that we'll make 868 00:40:57,955 --> 00:41:00,357 before the court, and the Department of Justice will 869 00:41:00,357 --> 00:41:02,793 be responsible for pressing that argument and we feel 870 00:41:02,793 --> 00:41:04,562 confident in the argument they'll be making. 871 00:41:04,562 --> 00:41:06,730 The Press: Okay, but that didn't answer my question. 872 00:41:06,730 --> 00:41:08,732 I said if this decision is upheld -- and you were just 873 00:41:08,732 --> 00:41:11,302 slapped down by a circuit court -- if this decision 874 00:41:11,302 --> 00:41:14,205 is upheld, does it effectively gut Obamacare? 875 00:41:14,205 --> 00:41:16,807 It means, for instance, that you can -- the President can no 876 00:41:16,807 --> 00:41:19,343 longer say that people can have access to health care for 877 00:41:19,343 --> 00:41:20,578 the price of a cell phone bill. 878 00:41:20,578 --> 00:41:24,114 I mean, this would wipe away 4.7 million right now -- 879 00:41:24,114 --> 00:41:27,117 4.7 million people's subsidies. 880 00:41:27,117 --> 00:41:30,120 Mr. Earnest: Well, you and I agree with the fact that there 881 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,623 are millions of Americans that currently benefit from 882 00:41:32,623 --> 00:41:34,458 this provision of the law. 883 00:41:34,458 --> 00:41:40,431 And we are confident that that law has the kind of legal basis 884 00:41:40,231 --> 00:41:43,300 The Press: If it is upheld, does it gut Obamacare? 0:41:40.431,1193:02:47.295 to withstand legal scrutiny. 885 00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:44,301 It's a simple question. 886 00:41:44,301 --> 00:41:46,303 Mr. Earnest: Well, I know it's a hypothetical question, 887 00:41:46,303 --> 00:41:48,305 though, and one I'm not in a position to entertain. 888 00:41:48,305 --> 00:41:50,274 We feel confident in our legal case. 889 00:41:50,274 --> 00:41:53,277 We've already won two cases at the district court level. 890 00:41:53,277 --> 00:41:57,848 We're going to the -- the Justice Department will 891 00:41:57,848 --> 00:42:01,118 be pressing this case before the entire D.C. circuit, 892 00:42:01,118 --> 00:42:03,654 and we feel confident about the case that they'll be making. 893 00:42:03,654 --> 00:42:06,023 The Press: The law very clearly states that the subsidies 894 00:42:06,023 --> 00:42:09,994 are available to those who enroll through state exchanges. 895 00:42:09,994 --> 00:42:11,996 Does the letter of the law matter 896 00:42:11,996 --> 00:42:13,230 to the White House on this? 897 00:42:13,230 --> 00:42:16,066 That is the letter of the law -- it says state exchanges. 898 00:42:16,066 --> 00:42:18,903 Mr. Earnest: Again, I don't have the fancy legal degree that I 899 00:42:18,903 --> 00:42:22,372 referred to earlier, but I do think that what the courts are 900 00:42:22,373 --> 00:42:25,609 charged with doing is evaluating the intent of Congress. 901 00:42:25,609 --> 00:42:29,013 And the intent of Congress in this case I think is not just 902 00:42:29,013 --> 00:42:30,848 clear, it's transparent. 903 00:42:30,848 --> 00:42:33,984 Congress intended for every eligible American to have access 904 00:42:33,984 --> 00:42:36,819 to these tax credits that lower their health care costs, 905 00:42:36,820 --> 00:42:39,189 whether or not the marketplace was run by federal officials 906 00:42:39,189 --> 00:42:40,857 or state officials. 907 00:42:40,858 --> 00:42:41,191 The Press: Okay. 908 00:42:41,191 --> 00:42:44,028 And I'd like to come back to Major's point about 909 00:42:44,028 --> 00:42:48,899 the Apollo 11 that were here at the White House today. 910 00:42:48,899 --> 00:42:51,201 Why the intense secrecy around this event? 911 00:42:51,201 --> 00:42:53,203 Why not allow television cameras into that? 912 00:42:53,203 --> 00:42:55,339 Mr. Earnest: It's merely a scheduling matter, Jon. 913 00:42:55,339 --> 00:42:58,475 There's a number of things on the President's schedule. 914 00:42:59,276 --> 00:43:02,011 We've had the trip to the Dutch Embassy today. 915 00:43:02,012 --> 00:43:04,081 The President is making remarks over in the EEOB 916 00:43:04,081 --> 00:43:06,317 with the Vice President to talk about job training. 917 00:43:06,317 --> 00:43:08,319 And the President needs to get on a plane 918 00:43:08,319 --> 00:43:09,320 at one o'clock this afternoon. 919 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,655 So the President has a very busy schedule and we weren't able 920 00:43:11,655 --> 00:43:13,223 to accommodate television cameras this time. 921 00:43:13,223 --> 00:43:14,091 The Press: Just for the record, the last pool spray 922 00:43:14,091 --> 00:43:15,025 took 38 seconds. 923 00:43:15,025 --> 00:43:15,759 Mr. Earnest: Understood. 924 00:43:15,759 --> 00:43:18,195 The Press: I mean, the President's schedule -- couldn't 925 00:43:18,195 --> 00:43:20,364 he have been maybe five minutes later for the fundraiser 926 00:43:20,364 --> 00:43:22,566 out in Seattle? 927 00:43:22,566 --> 00:43:25,468 You really couldn't accommodate a few minutes for open 928 00:43:25,469 --> 00:43:26,303 coverage of this? 929 00:43:26,303 --> 00:43:27,337 Mr. Earnest: Not this time, Jon. 930 00:43:27,338 --> 00:43:28,906 The Press: I mean, let me ask you, 931 00:43:28,906 --> 00:43:32,343 because I find that explanation, frankly, a little 932 00:43:32,343 --> 00:43:34,345 hard to believe, given that this is such a small amount 933 00:43:34,345 --> 00:43:37,647 of time to come in and have a little bit of -- 934 00:43:37,648 --> 00:43:39,650 Mr. Earnest: Well, I'll just say that in the past that 935 00:43:39,650 --> 00:43:41,652 there have been some television journalists who have 936 00:43:41,652 --> 00:43:43,654 complained about the small amount of time that was 937 00:43:43,654 --> 00:43:44,655 granted to some -- 938 00:43:44,655 --> 00:43:46,657 The Press: Yes, and I think I've probably been one of those 939 00:43:46,657 --> 00:43:48,659 -- complaining when 38 seconds maybe could 940 00:43:48,659 --> 00:43:49,660 be a couple of minutes. 941 00:43:49,660 --> 00:43:50,661 Mr. Earnest: Understood. 942 00:43:50,661 --> 00:43:53,998 The Press: But is it because some of those Apollo astronauts, 943 00:43:53,998 --> 00:43:56,767 including Neil Armstrong, shortly before he died, 944 00:43:56,767 --> 00:44:00,870 going to Congress, was very critical of this President 945 00:44:00,871 --> 00:44:02,673 for the way he has handled the space program. 946 00:44:02,673 --> 00:44:04,040 I mean, the words of Neil Armstrong, 947 00:44:04,041 --> 00:44:07,311 who was a very private person, as you know, 948 00:44:07,311 --> 00:44:10,114 before Congress saying that the President's canceling 949 00:44:10,114 --> 00:44:12,483 of the Constellation Program was "lamentably 950 00:44:12,483 --> 00:44:14,184 embarrassing and unacceptable." 951 00:44:14,184 --> 00:44:16,954 Is that why the President did not want to see television 952 00:44:16,954 --> 00:44:17,955 cameras into this photo op? 953 00:44:17,955 --> 00:44:19,323 Mr. Earnest: Absolutely not. 954 00:44:19,323 --> 00:44:22,026 The President invited the crew members of Apollo 11 to the 955 00:44:22,026 --> 00:44:26,263 White House to honor their contribution to space 956 00:44:26,263 --> 00:44:31,435 exploration and to innovation in the field of science. 957 00:44:31,435 --> 00:44:33,570 It's a genuine honor for the President to have them here 958 00:44:33,570 --> 00:44:36,807 today, and he's proud about the fact that they chose to come. 959 00:44:36,807 --> 00:44:39,942 I will also say that we are proud of the policy that this 960 00:44:39,943 --> 00:44:43,647 President has put in place to take our space program 961 00:44:43,647 --> 00:44:45,749 to the next level and we're very optimistic about 962 00:44:45,749 --> 00:44:49,019 the future of the American space program. 963 00:44:49,019 --> 00:44:51,622 The Press: You mentioned the supplemental before 964 00:44:51,622 --> 00:44:55,058 on the border crisis and wildfires. 965 00:44:55,059 --> 00:45:00,364 Today the Speaker said that he believes that the supplemental 966 00:45:00,364 --> 00:45:03,667 is not going to pass unless changes are made to the 2008 law 967 00:45:03,667 --> 00:45:06,870 and that the President needs to push Democrats 968 00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:08,372 on the Hill to do that. 969 00:45:08,372 --> 00:45:10,908 So I wanted to know what your response is to the Speaker. 970 00:45:10,908 --> 00:45:13,944 But also is there anything that you can tell us about how 971 00:45:13,944 --> 00:45:15,712 the President is speaking to Democrats on the Hill 972 00:45:15,712 --> 00:45:17,047 about that issue? 973 00:45:17,047 --> 00:45:19,049 Mr. Earnest: Well, I can tell you that White House officials 974 00:45:19,049 --> 00:45:21,652 have been in regular touch with Democrats and Republicans 975 00:45:21,652 --> 00:45:25,456 about the importance of Congress acting to approve 976 00:45:25,456 --> 00:45:27,458 the supplemental appropriations request that this 977 00:45:27,458 --> 00:45:29,259 administration has sought. 978 00:45:29,259 --> 00:45:32,062 The bottom line here is the federal government needs 979 00:45:32,062 --> 00:45:37,034 additional resources to make sure we are appropriately 980 00:45:37,034 --> 00:45:41,038 managing the urgent humanitarian situation at the border. 981 00:45:41,038 --> 00:45:43,140 What we're seeking specifically is funding for additional 982 00:45:43,140 --> 00:45:48,377 immigration judges, ICE prosecutors and asylum officials 983 00:45:48,378 --> 00:45:51,915 who can more efficiently and effectively process the claims 984 00:45:51,915 --> 00:45:56,920 that are made by those who have been apprehended at the border. 985 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,922 That enforcement of the law is something that we have 986 00:45:58,922 --> 00:46:01,892 prioritized and something that we need additional resources 987 00:46:01,892 --> 00:46:02,859 to do efficiently. 988 00:46:02,860 --> 00:46:04,995 The Press: But has the President spoken to the Democratic 989 00:46:04,995 --> 00:46:06,897 leaders on the Hill about it in recent days? 990 00:46:06,897 --> 00:46:08,999 Mr. Earnest: I don't have any specific telephone conversations 991 00:46:08,999 --> 00:46:11,067 from the President to read out, but I can tell you that a number 992 00:46:11,068 --> 00:46:13,303 of White House officials have been in touch with their 993 00:46:13,303 --> 00:46:15,105 counterparts on Capitol Hill about this matter. 994 00:46:15,105 --> 00:46:17,474 The Press: Just real quick, a second -- I think that some 995 00:46:17,474 --> 00:46:20,144 people in the White House have shot this down yesterday -- 996 00:46:20,144 --> 00:46:21,211 just to get it out there. 997 00:46:21,211 --> 00:46:24,413 Has the President or anyone on his behalf bought a house 998 00:46:24,414 --> 00:46:26,884 in California or planning to buy a house in California? 999 00:46:26,884 --> 00:46:28,886 Mr. Earnest: I've seen those reports, too. 1000 00:46:28,886 --> 00:46:29,953 Those reports are not accurate. 1001 00:46:29,953 --> 00:46:31,955 So, Mark, I'll give you the last one. 1002 00:46:31,955 --> 00:46:33,056 I understand the President is about to speak. 1003 00:46:33,056 --> 00:46:34,958 The Press: All right. 1004 00:46:34,958 --> 00:46:37,528 Josh, can you tell whether President Obama enjoys doing 1005 00:46:37,528 --> 00:46:42,399 fundraisers, or does he regard them as a distasteful chore? 1006 00:46:42,399 --> 00:46:45,602 Mr. Earnest: Mark, I can tell you that the President enjoys 1007 00:46:45,602 --> 00:46:48,337 traveling all across the country and meeting Americans from all 1008 00:46:48,338 --> 00:46:51,875 walks of life and talking to them about the country that they 1009 00:46:51,875 --> 00:46:53,343 love and that he loves. 1010 00:46:53,343 --> 00:46:56,013 The President will have the opportunity to meet over the 1011 00:46:56,013 --> 00:47:00,217 course of this trip to the West Coast, if the schedule holds, 1012 00:47:00,217 --> 00:47:04,955 a variety of individuals and the President is looking forward 1013 00:47:04,955 --> 00:47:06,857 to the opportunity that he'll have to visit with them. 1014 00:47:06,857 --> 00:47:11,595 In terms of fundraising, it's a responsibility that Presidents 1015 00:47:11,595 --> 00:47:16,799 in both parties for generations have been responsible for. 1016 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,136 And the President, like his predecessors, 1017 00:47:19,136 --> 00:47:23,006 is interested in supporting members of his party who are 1018 00:47:23,006 --> 00:47:28,212 on the ballot in 2014 and that's part of what he'll be doing 1019 00:47:28,212 --> 00:47:30,447 over the course of this week. 1020 00:47:30,447 --> 00:47:31,415 Thanks, everybody. 1021 00:47:31,415 --> 00:47:33,483 The Press: Josh, it's 100 days for the Nigerian girls 1022 00:47:33,483 --> 00:47:34,985 since they went missing. 1023 00:47:34,985 --> 00:47:36,086 Any comment? 1024 00:47:36,086 --> 00:47:37,453 Mr. Earnest: Not from here, but we may be able to follow 1025 00:47:37,454 --> 00:47:38,155 up on that.