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1 00:00:00,633 --> 00:00:02,333 Mr. Earnest: Good afternoon, everybody. 2 00:00:02,333 --> 00:00:03,633 You may have noticed we got a little special help 3 00:00:03,633 --> 00:00:05,734 preparing for the briefing today from 4 00:00:05,734 --> 00:00:10,133 one of your colleagues. 5 00:00:10,133 --> 00:00:12,232 So it's nice to see you on this Friday afternoon. 6 00:00:12,233 --> 00:00:13,967 I actually don't have anything at the top, Jim. 7 00:00:13,967 --> 00:00:15,900 But in the spirit of Opening Day, 8 00:00:15,900 --> 00:00:17,433 which they're celebrating just across town here, 9 00:00:17,433 --> 00:00:21,367 I'll let you throw out the first pitch here. 10 00:00:21,367 --> 00:00:22,367 (laughter) 11 00:00:22,367 --> 00:00:23,066 The Press: That's a curve. 12 00:00:23,066 --> 00:00:24,166 (laughter) 13 00:00:24,166 --> 00:00:24,767 The Press: It's a fastball right 14 00:00:24,767 --> 00:00:25,166 down the middle. 15 00:00:25,166 --> 00:00:26,000 Mr. Earnest: All right, we'll take it. 16 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,433 The Press: First, on the Middle East, Josh, Kerry 17 00:00:29,433 --> 00:00:32,867 today sounded perhaps the most pessimistic that 18 00:00:32,867 --> 00:00:36,166 he has during this whole effort to restart talks. 19 00:00:36,166 --> 00:00:38,934 He said it was time for a "reality check." 20 00:00:38,934 --> 00:00:42,699 Does the President share that view? 21 00:00:42,700 --> 00:00:46,266 I wondered when the last time he and Kerry 22 00:00:46,266 --> 00:00:47,800 spoke about this. 23 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,967 And did the President essentially encourage the 24 00:00:49,967 --> 00:00:52,367 Secretary of State that it was time to focus more 25 00:00:52,367 --> 00:00:54,967 on other pressing issues -- Ukraine, Syria, Iran 26 00:00:54,967 --> 00:00:58,567 nuclear talks -- because this seemed to be stuck 27 00:00:58,567 --> 00:00:59,667 in a stalemate? 28 00:00:59,667 --> 00:01:02,800 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jim, as you know, Secretary Kerry 29 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,667 and the President traveled together 30 00:01:04,667 --> 00:01:05,667 to Europe just last week. 31 00:01:05,667 --> 00:01:07,033 So they spent a decent amount of time 32 00:01:07,033 --> 00:01:09,066 together over the course of that trip. 33 00:01:09,066 --> 00:01:10,967 They were obviously covering a range 34 00:01:10,967 --> 00:01:15,767 of topics, principally the challenge of dealing 35 00:01:15,767 --> 00:01:18,265 with Russia and their encroachment 36 00:01:18,266 --> 00:01:21,000 on the territorial integrity of Ukraine. 37 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,066 But they did have the opportunity 38 00:01:22,066 --> 00:01:24,867 to talk about Middle East peace a little bit on that trip. 39 00:01:24,867 --> 00:01:28,033 As Secretary Kerry himself has said, 40 00:01:28,033 --> 00:01:33,266 that it is a good indication of how critical the issue 41 00:01:33,266 --> 00:01:36,433 of Middle East peace is, that when he does meetings 42 00:01:36,433 --> 00:01:38,667 with world leaders on other topics, 43 00:01:38,667 --> 00:01:42,834 people will ask him specifically about Middle East peace. 44 00:01:42,834 --> 00:01:45,166 Secretary Kerry has played a very important 45 00:01:45,166 --> 00:01:50,265 role in trying to facilitate conversations between 46 00:01:50,266 --> 00:01:52,166 the Israelis and Palestinians. 47 00:01:52,166 --> 00:01:56,467 He has done that not because 48 00:01:56,467 --> 00:02:00,200 it was obvious that an agreement could be struck. 49 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,934 In fact, the reason that he was involved 50 00:02:01,934 --> 00:02:06,899 and the reason that he was doing so under the banner 51 00:02:06,900 --> 00:02:09,800 of the United States of America is that it's been very 52 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,533 difficult for generations for the Israelis and 53 00:02:13,533 --> 00:02:16,200 Palestinians to try to resolve their differences. 54 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,299 So what Secretary Kerry has done is worked 55 00:02:19,300 --> 00:02:23,000 tirelessly to travel to the region frequently. 56 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,166 I think he's been there 11 times now just in the last 57 00:02:25,166 --> 00:02:26,834 year or so. 58 00:02:26,834 --> 00:02:30,400 And he has been tireless in his efforts to try 59 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,767 to broker some common ground between the 60 00:02:33,767 --> 00:02:35,200 Israelis and Palestinians. 61 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:40,767 Ultimately, however, what we have seen is that it's 62 00:02:40,767 --> 00:02:42,700 the responsibility of the Israelis and Palestinian 63 00:02:42,700 --> 00:02:45,966 leaders to make these difficult decisions, 64 00:02:45,967 --> 00:02:49,300 to take these difficult steps on their own. 65 00:02:49,300 --> 00:02:51,967 The decisions that need to be reached to pursue 66 00:02:51,967 --> 00:02:54,767 common ground cannot be imposed by the 67 00:02:54,767 --> 00:02:56,700 United States or any other country in the world. 68 00:02:56,700 --> 00:02:58,767 The difficult steps that the Israelis and 69 00:02:58,767 --> 00:03:01,466 Palestinians need to take to try to build some 70 00:03:01,467 --> 00:03:04,033 faith are not steps that can be dictated by the 71 00:03:04,033 --> 00:03:06,899 United States or any other outside entity. 72 00:03:06,900 --> 00:03:12,000 So yet, despite all of those challenges, 73 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,800 it is clearly within the interest of the 74 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,300 United States and the globe for the Israelis and 75 00:03:19,300 --> 00:03:21,667 Palestinians to resolve their differences. 76 00:03:21,667 --> 00:03:23,567 What we're aiming for is the creation, 77 00:03:23,567 --> 00:03:26,500 or the -- the creation of a circumstance in which 78 00:03:26,500 --> 00:03:32,500 you have a Jewish state of Israel living side 79 00:03:35,900 --> 00:03:38,266 by side in peace and security with 80 00:03:38,266 --> 00:03:39,867 an independent Palestinian state. 81 00:03:39,867 --> 00:03:41,600 That is the ultimate goal. 82 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,700 And reaching that goal is in the clear interests 83 00:03:44,700 --> 00:03:47,200 of our strong allies in Israel. 84 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,833 It's in the clear interests of the 85 00:03:48,834 --> 00:03:49,867 Palestinian people. 86 00:03:49,867 --> 00:03:52,700 It is in the clear interests of restoring 87 00:03:52,700 --> 00:03:58,033 greater stability to the Middle East region. 88 00:03:58,033 --> 00:04:02,033 And the outcome would have clear benefits 89 00:04:02,033 --> 00:04:04,399 for the entire world. 90 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,200 It's an indication that the United States 91 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,934 continues to be the indispensable nation 92 00:04:09,934 --> 00:04:12,600 in the world that the Secretary of State has 93 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,000 devoted so much time and effort to a task that 94 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,266 is so difficult, to a task that so many 95 00:04:17,266 --> 00:04:20,100 others have tried and failed to achieve. 96 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:24,967 So there is no doubt that we have reached a point 97 00:04:24,967 --> 00:04:28,400 where Palestinians, the Palestinian leaders 98 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,667 and the Israeli leaders need to spend some time 99 00:04:30,667 --> 00:04:33,734 thinking about their commitment to making some 100 00:04:33,734 --> 00:04:34,933 difficult decisions and taking 101 00:04:34,934 --> 00:04:36,767 some very difficult actions. 102 00:04:36,767 --> 00:04:40,133 And Secretary Kerry will be returning to Washington 103 00:04:40,133 --> 00:04:42,500 in the days ahead, and I would anticipate that 104 00:04:42,500 --> 00:04:44,734 a conversation with the President 105 00:04:44,734 --> 00:04:45,734 is in the near future. 106 00:04:45,734 --> 00:04:48,734 The Press: So having said that, that the next steps 107 00:04:48,734 --> 00:04:51,366 are clearly in the hands of the Palestinians 108 00:04:51,367 --> 00:04:54,300 and the Israelis, is the role of the U.S. 109 00:04:54,300 --> 00:04:56,266 as broker exhausted at this point? 110 00:04:56,266 --> 00:04:58,467 Does the President feel that it's exhausted? 111 00:04:58,467 --> 00:05:00,933 Mr. Earnest: No, we remain committed to this task. 112 00:05:00,934 --> 00:05:03,900 We remain committed to this task because 113 00:05:03,900 --> 00:05:05,799 the stakes are high, because there 114 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,667 is a clear benefit for our strong allies in Israel. 115 00:05:10,667 --> 00:05:12,866 There is a clear benefit for the Palestinian 116 00:05:12,867 --> 00:05:16,633 people, for nations in the Middle East region, 117 00:05:16,633 --> 00:05:17,799 and for nations around the globe. 118 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,266 So we remain committed to this task. 119 00:05:20,266 --> 00:05:22,467 At the same time, this ultimate goal that 120 00:05:22,467 --> 00:05:27,900 we're aiming for is something that can only 121 00:05:27,900 --> 00:05:31,467 be accomplished when the leaders of the Israeli 122 00:05:31,467 --> 00:05:33,967 people and the Palestinian people decide 123 00:05:33,967 --> 00:05:35,667 to make the very difficult decisions 124 00:05:35,667 --> 00:05:37,200 that they alone can make. 125 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,366 The Press: Is the President disappointed 126 00:05:39,367 --> 00:05:41,867 that it's reached this stage even after 127 00:05:41,867 --> 00:05:45,100 he so shortly ago had separately Abbas and Netanyahu 128 00:05:45,100 --> 00:05:46,533 in the Oval Office? 129 00:05:46,533 --> 00:05:48,700 Mr. Earnest: I think the President, 130 00:05:48,700 --> 00:05:51,933 even in the midst of those meetings, was incredibly 131 00:05:51,934 --> 00:05:54,967 realistic about how difficult of a challenge this is. 132 00:05:54,967 --> 00:06:02,933 For generations, American Presidents and even the 133 00:06:02,934 --> 00:06:04,900 leaders of other countries have tried to intervene 134 00:06:04,900 --> 00:06:06,700 in this dispute to reach an agreement. 135 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:11,033 And those efforts have experienced some peaks and 136 00:06:11,033 --> 00:06:12,867 valleys but ultimately have not reached 137 00:06:12,867 --> 00:06:15,233 the end state that I described earlier. 138 00:06:15,233 --> 00:06:18,166 So the President is very clear-eyed 139 00:06:18,166 --> 00:06:21,166 in his assessment about where things stand and about the 140 00:06:21,166 --> 00:06:25,100 prospects of reaching the kind of agreement that 141 00:06:25,100 --> 00:06:27,667 would be so clearly in the interest of the world. 142 00:06:27,667 --> 00:06:32,200 But those difficult challenges in no way 143 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,866 diminish the President's passion for trying 144 00:06:34,867 --> 00:06:41,567 to reach an outcome here that is so clearly 145 00:06:41,567 --> 00:06:42,567 in everybody's interest. 146 00:06:42,567 --> 00:06:45,000 The Press: Yesterday, we talked to Jay about 147 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,200 that Cuba Twitter story that AP had. 148 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,033 And yesterday Jay said that he was not aware 149 00:06:50,033 --> 00:06:52,233 of individuals here in the White House 150 00:06:52,233 --> 00:06:53,800 who knew about the program. 151 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,600 And I was wondering whether that was just his 152 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,133 own personal knowledge or whether you can state 153 00:06:59,133 --> 00:07:02,000 flatly that nobody at the White House was familiar 154 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,734 with this program as it was underway. 155 00:07:04,734 --> 00:07:05,599 Mr. Earnest: Jim, there's no question 156 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,834 that the President and his administration support 157 00:07:07,834 --> 00:07:09,967 efforts to help Cuban citizens communicate 158 00:07:09,967 --> 00:07:12,166 more easily with one another and with 159 00:07:12,166 --> 00:07:13,367 the outside world. 160 00:07:13,367 --> 00:07:15,767 Our involvement would have been the same 161 00:07:15,767 --> 00:07:18,300 in this instance as with any other development program 162 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:19,633 of this type. 163 00:07:19,633 --> 00:07:22,933 USAID kept the White House apprised of its efforts, 164 00:07:22,934 --> 00:07:24,700 consistent with the way that they have other 165 00:07:24,700 --> 00:07:26,734 programs of this kind elsewhere in the world. 166 00:07:26,734 --> 00:07:30,900 The Press: This one in particular, the social media -- 167 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:31,900 Mr. Earnest: That's right, 168 00:07:31,900 --> 00:07:34,400 this one in particular, which is to say that we certainly were 169 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,233 aware of the policy goal that USAID was trying to 170 00:07:38,233 --> 00:07:42,000 facilitate to create a mechanism for greater 171 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,200 expression of ideas in Cuba. 172 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,767 Now, as has been well-documented, the Cuban 173 00:07:46,767 --> 00:07:50,433 regime has time and time again been a repressive 174 00:07:50,433 --> 00:07:54,533 regime that has attempted to squelch the expression 175 00:07:54,533 --> 00:07:55,533 of free ideas. 176 00:07:55,533 --> 00:07:56,533 So there is a -- this is a clear effort 177 00:07:56,533 --> 00:08:01,033 by the United States to try to meet that need. 178 00:08:01,033 --> 00:08:05,367 The Press: Do these kinds of things especially rise 179 00:08:05,367 --> 00:08:08,867 to the level of the White House when you're dealing 180 00:08:08,867 --> 00:08:10,266 with a "non-permissive" environment 181 00:08:10,266 --> 00:08:12,000 like the one in Cuba? 182 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,533 Mr. Earnest: It's my understanding that 183 00:08:15,533 --> 00:08:19,734 a policy decision like this, in this case to implement 184 00:08:19,734 --> 00:08:21,799 this program, is fairly routine, 185 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,834 which is to say that it's likely that somebody at the 186 00:08:24,834 --> 00:08:26,667 White House would have been aware generally 187 00:08:26,667 --> 00:08:32,033 of the efforts to achieve -- or to put in place 188 00:08:32,033 --> 00:08:34,600 an infrastructure that would facilitate 189 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,100 the free expression of ideas but would not 190 00:08:37,100 --> 00:08:40,166 be fully informed of the operational details. 191 00:08:40,166 --> 00:08:43,500 The Press: Can you tell me who would have been 192 00:08:43,500 --> 00:08:44,500 particularly informed? 193 00:08:44,500 --> 00:08:46,166 Mr. Earnest: I don't. 194 00:08:46,166 --> 00:08:47,800 It's a little speculation. 195 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,632 What I'm talking about sort of is the principle 196 00:08:52,633 --> 00:08:53,900 that we would have been aware of this 197 00:08:53,900 --> 00:08:57,266 policy objective that USAID had set out, 198 00:08:57,266 --> 00:08:59,533 but not necessarily aware of the operational details. 199 00:08:59,533 --> 00:09:00,600 Steve. 200 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,600 The Press: Josh, just to be clear, is 201 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,266 the current phase of the Middle East peace process over? 202 00:09:06,266 --> 00:09:08,800 Mr. Earnest: No. 203 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,132 I think what I would say is that we have reached 204 00:09:11,133 --> 00:09:14,066 a place -- and I think Secretary Kerry 205 00:09:14,066 --> 00:09:17,066 spoke to this earlier today when he was in Morocco -- 206 00:09:17,066 --> 00:09:18,967 that we have reached a place where 207 00:09:18,967 --> 00:09:22,266 it's time for a reality check; where it's time for 208 00:09:22,266 --> 00:09:25,467 the Israeli leaders and the leaders of the 209 00:09:25,467 --> 00:09:28,699 Palestinian people to spend some time considering their options 210 00:09:28,700 --> 00:09:30,567 at this point. 211 00:09:30,567 --> 00:09:32,033 Secretary Kerry observed that there 212 00:09:32,033 --> 00:09:34,734 is a limited amount of time and resources that can 213 00:09:34,734 --> 00:09:37,200 be dedicated by the United States of America 214 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,867 to an effort like this. 215 00:09:38,867 --> 00:09:41,567 And the reason that there are limits, 216 00:09:41,567 --> 00:09:45,333 beyond the obvious limits of time and physical space, 217 00:09:45,333 --> 00:09:46,834 is that there are a range of challenges that are 218 00:09:46,834 --> 00:09:48,867 on the plate of the most indispensable country 219 00:09:48,867 --> 00:09:49,867 in the world. 220 00:09:49,867 --> 00:09:51,666 The Press: Was there a single incident 221 00:09:51,667 --> 00:09:53,433 that pushed these talks over the edge? 222 00:09:53,433 --> 00:09:54,766 Mr. Earnest: I wouldn't characterize 223 00:09:54,767 --> 00:09:55,767 it as a single incident. 224 00:09:55,767 --> 00:09:56,867 I think I would characterize 225 00:09:56,867 --> 00:10:03,533 it as unilateral steps taken by countries on both sides 226 00:10:03,533 --> 00:10:06,100 of this issue that have been unhelpful, that have 227 00:10:06,100 --> 00:10:08,667 contributed to at least some degradation 228 00:10:08,667 --> 00:10:12,667 of the trust that had been built up through the course 229 00:10:12,667 --> 00:10:14,266 of these talks over the last several months. 230 00:10:14,266 --> 00:10:15,666 The Press: And is the release 231 00:10:15,667 --> 00:10:17,867 of Jonathan Pollard still on the table? 232 00:10:17,867 --> 00:10:19,766 Mr. Earnest: Well, as we've described 233 00:10:19,767 --> 00:10:22,166 to you earlier, Steve, the reason that the release 234 00:10:22,166 --> 00:10:23,900 of Jonathan Pollard was on the table was because 235 00:10:23,900 --> 00:10:25,132 this is something that 236 00:10:25,133 --> 00:10:27,166 the Israeli government regularly raises 237 00:10:27,166 --> 00:10:29,000 with the U.S. government. 238 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,467 It is still true that the President has not made 239 00:10:31,467 --> 00:10:33,834 any sort of decisions about Mr. Pollard. 240 00:10:33,834 --> 00:10:36,766 He was tried and convicted of very serious crimes, 241 00:10:36,767 --> 00:10:40,066 and is serving a serious sentence. 242 00:10:40,066 --> 00:10:42,233 The Press: And lastly, in conjunction with 243 00:10:42,233 --> 00:10:44,400 the visit of the Tunisian President today, 244 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,165 is there any plans for a loan guarantee announcement? 245 00:10:47,166 --> 00:10:49,000 Mr. Earnest: I don't have any details about 246 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,667 any announcements that may be forthcoming. 247 00:10:50,667 --> 00:10:52,734 I know that there will be an opportunity 248 00:10:52,734 --> 00:10:54,500 for some members of the White House press corps 249 00:10:54,500 --> 00:10:56,300 to be in the Oval Office and to hear directly from 250 00:10:56,300 --> 00:10:58,766 the President and his Tunisian counterpart 251 00:10:58,767 --> 00:10:59,767 later this afternoon. 252 00:10:59,767 --> 00:11:02,633 So I would reserve any announcements that 253 00:11:02,633 --> 00:11:04,133 may be forthcoming until then. 254 00:11:04,133 --> 00:11:05,200 So let's move around a little bit. 255 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,200 Stephen. 256 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,033 The Press: How does the White House counter 257 00:11:08,033 --> 00:11:09,800 the critique of a lot of people that 258 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,032 in that sort of Middle East policy community 259 00:11:12,033 --> 00:11:15,100 that it was quite clear a year ago that Israelis 260 00:11:15,100 --> 00:11:19,433 and Palestinians have not built a political capital 261 00:11:19,433 --> 00:11:22,100 among their people or were not prepared to make these 262 00:11:22,100 --> 00:11:24,600 kind of tough decisions, and that therefore 263 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,333 John Kerry's investment of so much time and political 264 00:11:28,333 --> 00:11:31,233 capital could have been better used elsewhere? 265 00:11:31,233 --> 00:11:34,867 Mr. Earnest: Well, Stephen, I think what 266 00:11:34,867 --> 00:11:39,733 I would say in response to that is that the stakes 267 00:11:39,734 --> 00:11:43,433 in this situation were very high; that the world would 268 00:11:43,433 --> 00:11:47,667 stand to benefit significantly from 269 00:11:47,667 --> 00:11:50,200 the peaceful resolution of the differences between 270 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,300 the Israeli people and the Palestinian people. 271 00:11:53,300 --> 00:11:57,233 And because the stakes were so high 272 00:11:57,233 --> 00:11:59,433 and the challenges of reaching an agreement were 273 00:11:59,433 --> 00:12:01,600 so difficult, there are not a lot of people 274 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,567 volunteering to take on that assignment. 275 00:12:04,567 --> 00:12:06,367 So what I think it is, is indication 276 00:12:06,367 --> 00:12:09,934 of the influence around the world that the United States 277 00:12:09,934 --> 00:12:12,333 still wields; that the United States 278 00:12:12,333 --> 00:12:14,100 is the one that's willing to step into the breach -- 279 00:12:14,100 --> 00:12:17,233 and in this case, principally Secretary Kerry 280 00:12:17,233 --> 00:12:19,467 who's been willing to step into the breach here and try 281 00:12:19,467 --> 00:12:20,467 to broker an agreement. 282 00:12:20,467 --> 00:12:22,766 As I mentioned, he's traveled 10 or 11 283 00:12:22,767 --> 00:12:26,066 times to the region in just the last year, 284 00:12:26,066 --> 00:12:27,600 or a little over a year. 285 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:33,533 So the odds of getting something like this done 286 00:12:33,533 --> 00:12:36,400 -- I don't know if people in Las Vegas are betting 287 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:37,500 on these kinds of things these days -- 288 00:12:37,500 --> 00:12:39,600 but I'm sure the odds, if they were, the odds 289 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:40,600 would be very long. 290 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,834 But the benefits that could be gained for the 291 00:12:44,834 --> 00:12:47,666 world, the lives that could be saved, the 292 00:12:47,667 --> 00:12:49,867 stability that could spread throughout 293 00:12:49,867 --> 00:12:52,300 the region would be significant. 294 00:12:52,300 --> 00:12:54,132 And there would be significant benefits 295 00:12:54,133 --> 00:12:56,133 for the two countries we're talking about here, 296 00:12:56,133 --> 00:13:01,367 a Palestinian state and a Jewish-Israeli state 297 00:13:01,367 --> 00:13:03,065 would be significant, but the benefits 298 00:13:03,066 --> 00:13:05,133 to the United States of America would be significant as well. 299 00:13:05,133 --> 00:13:08,533 So this is why the Secretary of State, 300 00:13:08,533 --> 00:13:10,166 at the direction of the President of the United States, 301 00:13:10,166 --> 00:13:14,300 has invested so much time and effort in this endeavor. 302 00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:18,934 And our commitment and our passion for achieving this 303 00:13:18,934 --> 00:13:20,600 goal has not waned. 304 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,500 But again, this goal will only be achieved and only 305 00:13:24,500 --> 00:13:27,734 can be achieved if the decisions 306 00:13:27,734 --> 00:13:31,934 that are required are made independently by the 307 00:13:31,934 --> 00:13:34,600 leaders of Israel and the leaders 308 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,600 of the Palestinian people. 309 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,033 The Press: So if those decisions are made at this 310 00:13:38,033 --> 00:13:40,967 point, this critical point, is that it for this 311 00:13:40,967 --> 00:13:41,967 administration? 312 00:13:41,967 --> 00:13:42,967 Do you sit there and say, okay, we're not going to 313 00:13:42,967 --> 00:13:45,066 get involved in this until you guys come back and 314 00:13:45,066 --> 00:13:46,066 tell us you're ready? 315 00:13:46,066 --> 00:13:48,400 Mr. Earnest: Well, that presupposes an additional 316 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,733 step here that at some point somebody throws 317 00:13:50,734 --> 00:13:52,633 up their hands and walks away. 318 00:13:52,633 --> 00:13:54,300 Secretary Kerry is certainly not willing 319 00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:55,300 to do that. 320 00:13:55,300 --> 00:13:56,934 I think it's also notable -- and I've not mentioned 321 00:13:56,934 --> 00:13:59,132 this yet -- I think it's also notable that the 322 00:13:59,133 --> 00:14:00,834 designated negotiators on the Israeli side and the 323 00:14:00,834 --> 00:14:03,367 designated negotiators on the Palestinian side 324 00:14:03,367 --> 00:14:07,132 continue to assert their willingness 325 00:14:07,133 --> 00:14:10,633 to participate in conversations. 326 00:14:10,633 --> 00:14:14,700 So as long as they're willing to continue 327 00:14:14,700 --> 00:14:16,834 to talk, that's something that we're going 328 00:14:16,834 --> 00:14:21,165 to continue to try to facilitate. 329 00:14:21,166 --> 00:14:24,033 But ultimately, those talks will only lead 330 00:14:24,033 --> 00:14:27,867 to tangible progress if the leaders of the two sides 331 00:14:27,867 --> 00:14:30,300 are willing to make some difficult decisions. 332 00:14:30,300 --> 00:14:32,567 Again, these are decisions that the United States 333 00:14:32,567 --> 00:14:35,700 cannot make for them; these are steps that 334 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:38,367 the United States cannot impose on them. 335 00:14:38,367 --> 00:14:42,400 Ultimately, the two sides are going to have to make 336 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,567 these courageous decisions on their own, certainly 337 00:14:45,567 --> 00:14:47,500 with the support of the United States in our 338 00:14:47,500 --> 00:14:48,767 efforts to marshal the support of the 339 00:14:48,767 --> 00:14:49,900 international community. 340 00:14:49,900 --> 00:14:53,100 But ultimately, it's on them. 341 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:54,567 Kristen. 342 00:14:54,567 --> 00:14:55,567 The Press: Josh, thanks. 343 00:14:55,567 --> 00:14:56,667 On Afghanistan, what was President Obama's reaction 344 00:14:56,667 --> 00:14:58,967 to learning that one journalist had been killed 345 00:14:58,967 --> 00:15:00,266 and another one wounded? 346 00:15:00,266 --> 00:15:02,400 And then, more broadly, how much confidence 347 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,132 does he have in the elections that are set 348 00:15:05,133 --> 00:15:06,633 to take place this week? 349 00:15:06,633 --> 00:15:09,400 Mr. Earnest: Well, let me start, Kristen, by saying 350 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,500 that the thoughts and prayers of the 351 00:15:11,500 --> 00:15:14,100 First Lady and the President go out to the family 352 00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:17,166 of Anja Niedringhaus, who was killed 353 00:15:17,166 --> 00:15:18,800 in Afghanistan overnight. 354 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,300 The President and First Lady also send their best 355 00:15:22,300 --> 00:15:26,967 wishes and their prayers to Kathy Gannon, 356 00:15:26,967 --> 00:15:30,433 who was an AP reporter who was wounded in that incident. 357 00:15:30,433 --> 00:15:32,900 There are journalists who are currently 358 00:15:32,900 --> 00:15:34,834 on the ground in Afghanistan covering the elections 359 00:15:34,834 --> 00:15:37,900 that are slated to start tomorrow, who are risking 360 00:15:37,900 --> 00:15:39,800 their own personal safety to tell 361 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,967 the story about what's happening in Afghanistan. 362 00:15:41,967 --> 00:15:44,333 These are journalists who have traveled from across 363 00:15:44,333 --> 00:15:49,900 the world to cover what's happening in Afghanistan. 364 00:15:49,900 --> 00:15:53,132 This group also includes Afghans 365 00:15:53,133 --> 00:15:57,200 who have courageously made the decision to tell the world 366 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,533 about what's happening in their own country. 367 00:15:59,533 --> 00:16:01,433 And I think it's important, 368 00:16:01,433 --> 00:16:03,033 particularly on this day that's marked by some sadness, 369 00:16:03,033 --> 00:16:09,834 that we recognize the ongoing efforts and heroism 370 00:16:09,834 --> 00:16:13,233 of people both from Afghanistan and people 371 00:16:13,233 --> 00:16:16,333 from around the world who are trying to do the 372 00:16:16,333 --> 00:16:19,567 important work of informing the world about 373 00:16:19,567 --> 00:16:20,900 what's happening in Afghanistan. 374 00:16:20,900 --> 00:16:23,000 The Press: And given this violence, 375 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,100 how much confidence does he have in the elections that 376 00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:27,667 are going to take place? 377 00:16:27,667 --> 00:16:29,800 Is he concerned about more violence, corruption? 378 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,666 Has the President or any other 379 00:16:31,667 --> 00:16:33,834 top officials reached out to their counterparts 380 00:16:33,834 --> 00:16:36,000 in Afghanistan in the wake of this? 381 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,000 Mr. Earnest: Sure. 382 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,467 Kristen, as we've said before, 383 00:16:38,467 --> 00:16:40,000 we expect millions of Afghanistans 384 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,867 to go to the polls tomorrow. 385 00:16:41,867 --> 00:16:44,033 These are critical elections, and the United 386 00:16:44,033 --> 00:16:45,800 States welcomes the democratic process 387 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,867 that's currently underway in Afghanistan. 388 00:16:47,867 --> 00:16:50,599 This election process is Afghan-owned. 389 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:51,767 The Afghan security forces 390 00:16:51,767 --> 00:16:53,467 are in the lead countrywide. 391 00:16:53,467 --> 00:16:55,199 The leaders and staff of the electoral 392 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,867 institutions are all Afghan. 393 00:16:56,867 --> 00:16:59,400 And the campaign period over the past two months 394 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,266 was full of open and responsible 395 00:17:01,266 --> 00:17:03,400 debate among the candidates. 396 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,000 But it will be up to the Afghan people 397 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,834 to choose the future direction of their country. 398 00:17:07,834 --> 00:17:10,367 The Press: Even the potential for a recount, 399 00:17:10,367 --> 00:17:11,966 the possibility of corruption -- 400 00:17:11,967 --> 00:17:15,133 some people are saying there might not be a leader 401 00:17:15,133 --> 00:17:17,367 in place until this summer, until June. 402 00:17:17,367 --> 00:17:19,265 Does the President, does the Pentagon 403 00:17:19,266 --> 00:17:22,433 have a timeline in mind by which they need someone 404 00:17:22,433 --> 00:17:25,934 to be in place so that you can move forward with 405 00:17:25,934 --> 00:17:27,666 the BSA agreement if that were to happen? 406 00:17:27,666 --> 00:17:29,132 Mr. Earnest: We have not established a specific 407 00:17:29,133 --> 00:17:31,567 timeline for the resolution of -- or the 408 00:17:31,567 --> 00:17:33,166 adjudication of the election, 409 00:17:33,166 --> 00:17:33,734 I guess I should say. 410 00:17:33,734 --> 00:17:38,332 It is our expectation that this 411 00:17:38,333 --> 00:17:40,934 is a little bit different than most elections that 412 00:17:40,934 --> 00:17:41,934 are conducted in the U.S. 413 00:17:41,934 --> 00:17:44,033 in which we find out the results that night 414 00:17:44,033 --> 00:17:46,100 or the next day. 415 00:17:46,100 --> 00:17:47,632 But at the same time, we're hopeful that the 416 00:17:47,633 --> 00:17:50,000 elections will be peaceful and inclusive 417 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,567 and broadly acceptable to the Afghan people. 418 00:17:52,567 --> 00:17:54,967 A stable and acceptable political transition 419 00:17:54,967 --> 00:17:57,200 is critical to sustaining international 420 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,633 support for Afghanistan. 421 00:17:58,633 --> 00:18:01,467 The Press: And just one on something 422 00:18:01,467 --> 00:18:03,100 the President talked about this week, the minimum wage. 423 00:18:03,100 --> 00:18:06,433 There are some compromise pieces 424 00:18:06,433 --> 00:18:08,200 of legislation that are coming together on the Hill. 425 00:18:08,433 --> 00:18:11,800 Would the President accept legislation that increased 426 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,767 the minimum wage to, say, $9 as opposed to $10, 427 00:18:15,767 --> 00:18:18,166 if that were to make it through both chambers, 428 00:18:18,166 --> 00:18:20,300 if that were a viable piece of legislation 429 00:18:20,300 --> 00:18:22,399 as compared to $10.10, which doesn't seem like 430 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,066 it stands a chance of passing at this point? 431 00:18:24,066 --> 00:18:25,867 Mr. Earnest: Well, Kristen, 432 00:18:25,867 --> 00:18:27,667 you covered the President's remarks in Michigan. 433 00:18:27,667 --> 00:18:28,600 I saw you out there. 434 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,300 The President is a very strong advocate 435 00:18:30,300 --> 00:18:33,466 of raising the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour. 436 00:18:33,467 --> 00:18:36,667 And I think it was earlier this week we saw the state 437 00:18:36,667 --> 00:18:39,800 of Connecticut vote in the legislature 438 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,265 to raise their minimum wage to $10.10 an hour. 439 00:18:41,266 --> 00:18:46,867 We've seen some steps taken by private companies 440 00:18:46,867 --> 00:18:47,867 -- Costco and Gap, and even some smaller 441 00:18:47,867 --> 00:18:48,867 companies -- around the country take 442 00:18:48,867 --> 00:18:52,265 a unilateral step to raise the wages of their workers. 443 00:18:52,266 --> 00:18:54,500 The reason that they do that is not because they 444 00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:57,767 think that President Obama will like it, 445 00:18:57,767 --> 00:18:58,867 although he does. 446 00:18:58,867 --> 00:18:59,934 The reason that they do that is because they think 447 00:18:59,934 --> 00:19:01,533 it's good for business. 448 00:19:01,533 --> 00:19:02,766 They understand that putting more money 449 00:19:02,767 --> 00:19:04,233 in the pockets of their workers is good 450 00:19:04,233 --> 00:19:05,233 for their business. 451 00:19:05,233 --> 00:19:06,433 It's good for their local economy. 452 00:19:06,433 --> 00:19:08,567 It reduces the cost associated with training 453 00:19:08,567 --> 00:19:10,300 workers, because they're more likely to stick 454 00:19:10,300 --> 00:19:12,000 around on the job when they're getting 455 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,000 a good wage. 456 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,300 And, ultimately, what we're talking about 457 00:19:14,300 --> 00:19:16,834 here is a core value that we believe, 458 00:19:16,834 --> 00:19:19,533 and the President believes, that hard work should be rewarded. 459 00:19:19,533 --> 00:19:21,132 And right now, based on where the minimum wage 460 00:19:21,133 --> 00:19:22,133 is currently slated, that if you're trying 461 00:19:22,133 --> 00:19:26,867 to raise a family of four but working full-time making 462 00:19:26,867 --> 00:19:28,533 just the minimum wage, then you're raising that 463 00:19:28,533 --> 00:19:29,667 family below the poverty line. 464 00:19:29,667 --> 00:19:31,800 So the President believes strongly that Congress 465 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,100 should take the kind of action that we're 466 00:19:34,100 --> 00:19:36,667 seeing in states and in the private sector all 467 00:19:36,667 --> 00:19:39,500 across the country and raise the minimum wage to $10.10. 468 00:19:39,500 --> 00:19:41,233 The Press: But realistically it doesn't 469 00:19:41,233 --> 00:19:43,800 seem to stand a chance of getting through Congress, 470 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,800 so why not support something that does? 471 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,567 And what do you say to critics who say therefore 472 00:19:48,567 --> 00:19:50,333 it just becomes a campaign -- 473 00:19:50,333 --> 00:19:51,967 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think 474 00:19:51,967 --> 00:19:53,166 you come by your pessimism about 475 00:19:53,166 --> 00:19:54,700 congressional action honestly. 476 00:19:54,700 --> 00:19:56,800 I think there's ample evidence to indicate 477 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,934 why you might feel that way. 478 00:19:59,934 --> 00:20:03,266 The President, however, is not going to allow that 479 00:20:03,266 --> 00:20:06,166 inaction in Congress to stand in the way 480 00:20:06,166 --> 00:20:07,633 of something that is really important 481 00:20:07,633 --> 00:20:08,834 for the country and really important 482 00:20:08,834 --> 00:20:10,600 for our country's economy. 483 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,100 So you saw that a couple of months ago 484 00:20:14,100 --> 00:20:16,966 the President signed an executive order mandating 485 00:20:16,967 --> 00:20:19,266 that federal contractors would raise 486 00:20:19,266 --> 00:20:21,367 the minimum wage for their workers. 487 00:20:21,367 --> 00:20:23,633 The President hosted an event in Connecticut 488 00:20:23,633 --> 00:20:26,533 where they did raise the minimum wage to $10.10 489 00:20:26,533 --> 00:20:29,533 with several other governors from New England, 490 00:20:29,533 --> 00:20:30,632 who also advocated raising the minimum wage. 491 00:20:30,633 --> 00:20:32,300 So this is something that the President is going to 492 00:20:32,300 --> 00:20:33,300 continue to talk about. 493 00:20:33,300 --> 00:20:35,033 I'll point out one last thing, which is the last 494 00:20:35,033 --> 00:20:36,567 time the minimum wage was increased it was signed 495 00:20:36,567 --> 00:20:37,900 into law by a Republican President. 496 00:20:37,900 --> 00:20:40,066 So this is not one of those scenarios where 497 00:20:40,066 --> 00:20:42,233 there has been a historic partisan divide that 498 00:20:42,233 --> 00:20:46,000 is keeping us from taking a common-sense step 499 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,166 toward sound economic policy. 500 00:20:48,166 --> 00:20:53,300 There appears to be something else motivating 501 00:20:53,300 --> 00:20:58,399 those who oppose a simple policy decision 502 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,867 that would reward hard work. 503 00:20:59,867 --> 00:21:03,533 I'll let you guys decide what that might be. 504 00:21:03,533 --> 00:21:05,166 Roger, I'll give you the question, 505 00:21:05,166 --> 00:21:07,166 because I understand you're celebrating 506 00:21:07,166 --> 00:21:08,166 an anniversary today. 507 00:21:08,166 --> 00:21:09,867 Today marks your 20th year with Bloomberg, 508 00:21:09,867 --> 00:21:10,899 is that right? 509 00:21:10,900 --> 00:21:12,233 A little birdie told me that. 510 00:21:12,233 --> 00:21:16,233 It's in my briefing book here, so congratulations. 511 00:21:16,233 --> 00:21:17,500 (applause) 512 00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:18,734 So now that you're sufficiently 513 00:21:18,734 --> 00:21:20,233 embarrassed, why don't you go on with your question? 514 00:21:20,233 --> 00:21:23,466 The Press: Thank you. 515 00:21:23,467 --> 00:21:26,266 When the President was still in Saudi Arabia, 516 00:21:26,266 --> 00:21:29,600 he took a call from Putin and they talked about an hour. 517 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,934 And the readout said that among other things 518 00:21:32,934 --> 00:21:35,500 Putin wanted to discuss some diplomatic way 519 00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:37,667 to resolve the crisis in Ukraine. 520 00:21:37,667 --> 00:21:41,065 So with that in mind, has anything -- 521 00:21:41,066 --> 00:21:44,266 and the President said he wanted it in writing. 522 00:21:44,266 --> 00:21:45,767 So has anything come in writing? 523 00:21:45,767 --> 00:21:46,767 Number one. 524 00:21:46,767 --> 00:21:49,367 Have there been any calls between 525 00:21:49,367 --> 00:21:51,633 the two since March 29? 526 00:21:51,633 --> 00:21:54,767 And, three, has there been any movement 527 00:21:54,767 --> 00:21:56,567 whatsoever between the two? 528 00:21:56,567 --> 00:21:58,667 Mr. Earnest: Well, I'll say a couple 529 00:21:58,667 --> 00:21:59,667 things about that. 530 00:21:59,667 --> 00:22:01,466 I don't have any calls between President Obama 531 00:22:01,467 --> 00:22:03,934 and President Putin to read out to you. 532 00:22:03,934 --> 00:22:07,166 However, the action item, if you will, from that 533 00:22:07,166 --> 00:22:11,332 call was for Secretary Kerry and his counterpart, 534 00:22:11,333 --> 00:22:15,867 Foreign Minister Lavrov, to have a conversation 535 00:22:15,867 --> 00:22:19,265 about trying to find a diplomatic path 536 00:22:19,266 --> 00:22:23,533 to deescalate the tension in Ukraine, 537 00:22:23,533 --> 00:22:27,466 or I guess along the border of Ukraine as well. 538 00:22:27,467 --> 00:22:31,500 In terms of an update on the conversations 539 00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:33,900 between Secretary Kerry and his counterpart, 540 00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:37,367 I'd refer you to the State Department. 541 00:22:37,367 --> 00:22:41,100 But what hasn't changed is that there 542 00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:44,766 is a clear path to deescalating the tension in that region; 543 00:22:44,767 --> 00:22:45,934 that there is an opportunity 544 00:22:45,934 --> 00:22:50,934 for the Russians to pull back from Crimea 545 00:22:50,934 --> 00:22:55,033 and from the border along Ukraine in which they have -- 546 00:22:55,033 --> 00:22:56,533 where they have massed troops. 547 00:22:56,533 --> 00:23:00,433 There is an opportunity for us to send neutral 548 00:23:00,433 --> 00:23:03,967 observers to the region to ensure that peace 549 00:23:03,967 --> 00:23:08,567 and stability continues to exist there, 550 00:23:08,567 --> 00:23:10,200 that we're not in a situation -- I know that 551 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,367 President Putin has publicly expressed 552 00:23:11,367 --> 00:23:14,300 his concern multiple times that there might be ethnic 553 00:23:14,300 --> 00:23:17,633 Russians who are the victims of violence there. 554 00:23:17,633 --> 00:23:19,467 There's an opportunity for us to send international 555 00:23:19,467 --> 00:23:21,934 monitors to ensure that that's not happening. 556 00:23:21,934 --> 00:23:24,100 We haven't seen widespread reports of that, for sure. 557 00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:27,600 But if President Putin's confidence would 558 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,367 be bolstered by sending neutral international 559 00:23:30,367 --> 00:23:32,834 monitors to the region to ensure that that's the 560 00:23:32,834 --> 00:23:34,734 case, we would be very supportive of that. 561 00:23:34,734 --> 00:23:37,466 The Press: Has he said anything about 562 00:23:37,467 --> 00:23:40,567 that or reacted to that in any way? 563 00:23:40,567 --> 00:23:41,700 The neutral observers. 564 00:23:41,700 --> 00:23:44,100 Mr. Earnest: I haven't seen his reaction to that. 565 00:23:44,100 --> 00:23:45,567 Let me say one other thing, which is -- 566 00:23:45,567 --> 00:23:47,266 and this is an important step as well -- 567 00:23:47,266 --> 00:23:49,633 that in order to resolve the differences between Ukraine 568 00:23:49,633 --> 00:23:52,033 and Russia, it's important for Russian leaders 569 00:23:52,033 --> 00:23:54,199 to meet with their counterparts in Ukraine. 570 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,667 The United States has indicated a willingness 571 00:23:55,667 --> 00:23:57,899 to help facilitate those kinds of conversations, 572 00:23:57,900 --> 00:23:59,867 but ultimately that will be a critical step 573 00:23:59,867 --> 00:24:01,734 in deescalating the tension that we're seeing there 574 00:24:01,734 --> 00:24:04,966 and trying to find a diplomatic resolution 575 00:24:04,967 --> 00:24:05,967 to what's going on over there. 576 00:24:05,967 --> 00:24:07,467 The Press: And one other thing. 577 00:24:07,467 --> 00:24:08,834 Is there any U.S. 578 00:24:08,834 --> 00:24:13,300 evidence yet that troops are being pulled back? 579 00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:16,800 Mr. Earnest: We've seen the reports that 580 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,934 President Putin has ordered the withdrawal 581 00:24:18,934 --> 00:24:20,567 I think of one battalion of troops. 582 00:24:20,567 --> 00:24:21,367 The Press: Hagel said yesterday 583 00:24:21,367 --> 00:24:22,533 he hasn't seen any evidence. 584 00:24:22,533 --> 00:24:24,300 Mr. Earnest: That continues to be true. 585 00:24:24,300 --> 00:24:26,867 Jim. 586 00:24:26,867 --> 00:24:29,066 The Press: First of all, happy Opening Day. 587 00:24:29,066 --> 00:24:29,667 Mr. Earnest: Thank you. 588 00:24:29,667 --> 00:24:31,800 The Press: And I wanted to ask you to go back, 589 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,934 if we could, back to the Israeli-Palestinian 590 00:24:34,934 --> 00:24:37,966 conflict. 591 00:24:37,967 --> 00:24:41,033 And obviously when the President decided to have 592 00:24:41,033 --> 00:24:43,766 the leaders here and then to move forward after 593 00:24:43,767 --> 00:24:46,667 that, he must have thought there was some reason, 594 00:24:46,667 --> 00:24:50,233 even though the challenge was high, that there might 595 00:24:50,233 --> 00:24:53,667 be some reason there could be some success. 596 00:24:53,667 --> 00:24:56,533 Has what he was told been changed, or has there been 597 00:24:56,533 --> 00:24:59,367 any bad faith or lack of good faith 598 00:24:59,367 --> 00:25:02,265 from the parties that has changed things? 599 00:25:02,266 --> 00:25:06,000 Mr. Earnest: Well, let me start by answering your 600 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,000 question this way. 601 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,500 One of the hallmarks of these ongoing 602 00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:11,400 conversations that have been taking place, 603 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,200 that have been facilitated by Secretary Kerry and 604 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,100 members of his negotiating team that have spent 605 00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:18,500 a lot of time on the ground in the region, 606 00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:22,600 has been to keep the content of the talks confidential, 607 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,332 that that is a way to build some trust. 608 00:25:24,333 --> 00:25:26,734 And I know that it's made covering these 609 00:25:26,734 --> 00:25:30,466 conversations challenging, but they have been 610 00:25:30,467 --> 00:25:34,200 an important part of preserving the ability 611 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,567 of negotiators on both sides to negotiate. 612 00:25:36,567 --> 00:25:39,033 So I'm not in a position to divulge specific 613 00:25:39,033 --> 00:25:41,000 details or commitments that may have been made to 614 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,834 the President by one or both leaders. 615 00:25:45,834 --> 00:25:47,500 I think it is fair to say that over the course 616 00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:49,367 of the last six or seven months there have been 617 00:25:49,367 --> 00:25:52,367 some courageous steps that were taken by leaders 618 00:25:52,367 --> 00:25:53,567 on both sides. 619 00:25:53,567 --> 00:25:56,200 But in the last week or so, we've started 620 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,600 to see that cooperation break down a little bit; 621 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,433 that we saw the Israeli government refuse 622 00:26:05,433 --> 00:26:08,667 to release the fourth tranche of prisoners that 623 00:26:08,667 --> 00:26:10,699 was scheduled for last weekend. 624 00:26:10,700 --> 00:26:12,367 It didn't happen, obviously. 625 00:26:12,367 --> 00:26:14,700 The Palestinians, earlier this week, signed 626 00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:16,233 instruments seeking to join a number of 627 00:26:16,233 --> 00:26:18,533 multilateral conventions. 628 00:26:18,533 --> 00:26:21,800 Also, earlier this week, the Israeli government 629 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,700 announced 700 tenders in East Jerusalem, which is a 630 00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:29,800 source of great sensitivity on the 631 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,800 Palestinian side. 632 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,934 So we have seen some unilateral actions that 633 00:26:32,934 --> 00:26:36,966 have been taken by leaders on both sides that have 634 00:26:36,967 --> 00:26:41,266 been not helpful at all in trying to move these 635 00:26:41,266 --> 00:26:44,166 conversations along. 636 00:26:44,166 --> 00:26:46,399 Those are statements and actions that have been 637 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,867 taken in public, and I would point you 638 00:26:48,867 --> 00:26:56,300 to those as the reason for the recent slowdown that 639 00:26:56,300 --> 00:26:57,500 we've seen in the talks. 640 00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:00,200 The Press: But without the specifics of what 641 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,000 may have been promised to the President 642 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,433 in these meetings, was the President in fact 643 00:27:05,433 --> 00:27:06,433 lied to in the end? 644 00:27:06,433 --> 00:27:09,033 And without saying what he was lied to about, 645 00:27:09,033 --> 00:27:14,000 but were there agreements or promises made that were 646 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,233 not acted out in good faith by both sides? 647 00:27:16,233 --> 00:27:17,767 Mr. Earnest: Well, let me tell you what 648 00:27:17,767 --> 00:27:18,767 we're focused on. 649 00:27:18,767 --> 00:27:20,200 What we're focused on is we're focused 650 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,900 on the Israelis and Palestinians living up to the 651 00:27:22,900 --> 00:27:24,900 commitments that they make to each other; 652 00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:27,800 that ultimately is what's most important here. 653 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,233 And we've seen, as I pointed out, 654 00:27:29,233 --> 00:27:32,033 in the last few days a breakdown in some of the trust 655 00:27:32,033 --> 00:27:33,033 that had been built up. 656 00:27:33,033 --> 00:27:35,433 The President is concerned about that. 657 00:27:35,433 --> 00:27:37,367 Secretary Kerry has articulated his own 658 00:27:37,367 --> 00:27:39,066 disappointment about that. 659 00:27:39,066 --> 00:27:43,834 But the one thing that we take some solace 660 00:27:43,834 --> 00:27:47,333 in is noting that negotiators on both sides are still 661 00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:48,333 willing to negotiate, they're still 662 00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:50,166 at the negotiating table. 663 00:27:50,166 --> 00:27:52,600 They haven't thrown up their hands and said 664 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,466 that they're walking away from this process. 665 00:27:54,467 --> 00:27:57,633 So we are getting down to the time where leaders 666 00:27:57,633 --> 00:27:59,900 on both sides need to make some difficult decisions. 667 00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:01,967 Again, we can't make these decisions for them, 668 00:28:01,967 --> 00:28:04,233 we can't impose these decisions on them. 669 00:28:04,233 --> 00:28:06,265 They're going to have to make these decisions 670 00:28:06,266 --> 00:28:09,400 on their own based on the best interests 671 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,333 of the people that they're leading. 672 00:28:11,333 --> 00:28:13,467 It is our view -- and I think this 673 00:28:13,467 --> 00:28:14,834 is a view that's been expressed by leaders 674 00:28:14,834 --> 00:28:17,100 in both countries -- that it ultimately is in their 675 00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:19,199 interest to resolve this situation diplomatically. 676 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,767 But there's a lot of hard work to go before 677 00:28:22,767 --> 00:28:23,767 we're going to get there. 678 00:28:23,767 --> 00:28:27,066 The Press: Let me just try one more time. 679 00:28:27,066 --> 00:28:28,300 Mr. Earnest: Okay. 680 00:28:28,300 --> 00:28:31,734 The Press: Did Secretary Kerry walk away because 681 00:28:31,734 --> 00:28:33,632 they were not getting along with each other, 682 00:28:33,633 --> 00:28:36,400 or because things they had told the United States 683 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,266 they would do they did not do? 684 00:28:38,266 --> 00:28:42,467 Mr. Earnest: Well, I guess it's possible to -- 685 00:28:42,467 --> 00:28:43,734 I don't want to parse this too much, again, 686 00:28:43,734 --> 00:28:48,567 because I want to protect the integrity 687 00:28:48,567 --> 00:28:50,400 of the private conversations that are ongoing. 688 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,767 But the source of Secretary Kerry's 689 00:28:53,767 --> 00:28:58,467 frustration and President Obama's frustration are 690 00:28:58,467 --> 00:29:02,700 the unilateral, unhelpful actions that we've taken 691 00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:05,300 -- that we've seen taken by leaders on both sides. 692 00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:09,600 And that has been a disappointment, 693 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,500 and particularly because there had been some courageous 694 00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:17,300 actions that were taken by leaders on both sides 695 00:29:17,300 --> 00:29:18,834 in the past few months. 696 00:29:18,834 --> 00:29:23,934 But again, Secretary Kerry said that this 697 00:29:23,934 --> 00:29:26,867 is reality-check time, and that is where we are. 698 00:29:26,867 --> 00:29:29,033 This is a time for the leaders on both sides 699 00:29:29,033 --> 00:29:31,265 to evaluate if they're willing 700 00:29:31,266 --> 00:29:32,266 to take these actions. 701 00:29:32,266 --> 00:29:33,266 Major. 702 00:29:33,266 --> 00:29:34,934 The Press: Just to follow up on that -- it sounds 703 00:29:34,934 --> 00:29:37,500 and it looks as if the Israelis and the 704 00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:39,000 Palestinians have made decisions. 705 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,433 They decided not to tell the United States they 706 00:29:41,433 --> 00:29:43,433 were going to take these unilateral actions. 707 00:29:43,433 --> 00:29:45,734 They decided to take the unilateral actions knowing 708 00:29:45,734 --> 00:29:47,332 it would be inconsistent with what they've 709 00:29:47,333 --> 00:29:49,633 committed to the other and inconsistent to helping 710 00:29:49,633 --> 00:29:51,600 the peace process move forward. 711 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,065 They've made decisions in the last week that are 712 00:29:54,066 --> 00:29:56,767 hostile to what the United States and Secretary Kerry 713 00:29:56,767 --> 00:29:59,367 have tried to accomplish for the last year. 714 00:29:59,367 --> 00:30:01,633 Don't those decisions in of themselves tell 715 00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:06,500 you what the status of these peace talks are, and that 716 00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:09,967 it's fruitless to wait for other decisions to be made 717 00:30:09,967 --> 00:30:13,300 to get them back to a place where they were 718 00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:15,466 before when they've already decided 719 00:30:15,467 --> 00:30:17,533 to do things to harm where they were before? 720 00:30:17,533 --> 00:30:22,033 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think that anybody who knows 721 00:30:22,033 --> 00:30:25,433 Middle East history better than I do, frankly, 722 00:30:25,433 --> 00:30:28,867 and is intimately familiar with the kinds of conversations 723 00:30:28,867 --> 00:30:31,633 that have characterized previous efforts 724 00:30:31,633 --> 00:30:33,400 to resolve the differences between the Israelis and 725 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,200 Palestinians understands that there has been -- 726 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,300 that this has always been a process that has 727 00:30:39,300 --> 00:30:41,734 been characterized by one step forward, 728 00:30:41,734 --> 00:30:44,000 two steps back, sometimes. 729 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:50,867 And so there is nobody who had the expectation that 730 00:30:50,867 --> 00:30:52,466 there would be a straight line from 731 00:30:52,467 --> 00:30:55,500 talks to resolution. 732 00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:57,367 The Press: But everyone understood that April 733 00:30:57,367 --> 00:30:58,367 was a crucial month. 734 00:30:58,367 --> 00:31:00,500 They were brought here to discuss the crucial 735 00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:03,400 nature of the upcoming deadline and the commitment 736 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,500 to move beyond that. 737 00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:08,133 And in the context of that, they took actions 738 00:31:08,133 --> 00:31:10,367 harmful to the process and they didn't even tell 739 00:31:10,367 --> 00:31:13,734 the number-one interlocutor, the irreplaceable country 740 00:31:13,734 --> 00:31:14,966 in the world, as you just described it, 741 00:31:14,967 --> 00:31:16,834 that they were going to do those things. 742 00:31:16,834 --> 00:31:19,000 I mean, isn't that a breach that sort of tells 743 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,600 the United States all it needs to know about 744 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,567 where this process is, and that's its investment for 745 00:31:23,567 --> 00:31:25,667 the past year has produced virtually nothing? 746 00:31:25,667 --> 00:31:28,899 Mr. Earnest: I'm not sure that I would describe 747 00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:32,100 it as virtually nothing, but I think that Secretary 748 00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:34,233 Kerry himself talked about his disappointment 749 00:31:34,233 --> 00:31:37,500 in the steps that were taken, and we've talked about this 750 00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:39,333 for a couple of days here as well. 751 00:31:39,333 --> 00:31:41,400 But again, the -- 752 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,100 The Press: So you said the process isn't over. 753 00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:45,500 What can continue under these circumstances? 754 00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:46,500 I mean, Kerry is not going 755 00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:47,700 to keep coming back, is he? 756 00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:49,166 He's not going to keep calling them. 757 00:31:49,166 --> 00:31:50,100 He's going to wait for them 758 00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:51,300 to do something, right? 759 00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:53,033 Mr. Earnest: I don't want to foreshadow 760 00:31:53,033 --> 00:31:55,699 what Secretary Kerry's future steps will be. 761 00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:59,066 What he has said his next step is is to return 762 00:31:59,066 --> 00:32:01,100 to Washington and have some conversations 763 00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:02,132 with the President and other members 764 00:32:02,133 --> 00:32:04,767 of his team about a path forward. 765 00:32:04,767 --> 00:32:05,967 There is -- 766 00:32:05,967 --> 00:32:07,934 The Press: So you could formally 767 00:32:07,934 --> 00:32:08,934 declare an end -- 768 00:32:08,934 --> 00:32:10,266 Mr. Earnest: The lead negotiators 769 00:32:10,266 --> 00:32:12,033 on the both sides, on the Israeli side 770 00:32:12,033 --> 00:32:13,766 and the Palestinian side, have indicated a willingness 771 00:32:13,767 --> 00:32:15,033 to keep talking. 772 00:32:15,033 --> 00:32:20,265 So as long as the two people who are engaged 773 00:32:20,266 --> 00:32:21,900 in the talks are still talking, 774 00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:23,567 it would be a little odd for me to stand up here and say that 775 00:32:23,567 --> 00:32:24,567 the talks are over, right? 776 00:32:24,567 --> 00:32:26,433 The Press: Right, but they would be talking 777 00:32:26,433 --> 00:32:28,800 about something that is worse than it was before 778 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,233 because of actions they decided to take. 779 00:32:31,233 --> 00:32:33,300 Mr. Earnest: But ultimately the way that 780 00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:35,700 we'll resolve these disputes are not just 781 00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:38,300 through the talks, but ultimately by important 782 00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:40,533 decisions and courageous steps being taken 783 00:32:40,533 --> 00:32:42,433 by both sides -- steps that, again, that we can't 784 00:32:42,433 --> 00:32:43,433 impose or dictate. 785 00:32:43,433 --> 00:32:45,033 The Press: On Ukraine, the Russians said yesterday 786 00:32:45,033 --> 00:32:47,867 the United States needs to get over Crimea. 787 00:32:47,867 --> 00:32:48,867 Is it going to? 788 00:32:48,867 --> 00:32:49,867 Mr. Earnest: No. 789 00:32:49,867 --> 00:32:51,433 The Press: And what's it going to do to change it? 790 00:32:51,433 --> 00:32:55,200 Mr. Earnest: Our position -- that Russia has 791 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,333 violated the territorial integrity of the nation 792 00:32:58,333 --> 00:33:01,600 of Ukraine by occupying Crimea -- has not changed. 793 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:07,567 A result of those actions, the United States 794 00:33:11,066 --> 00:33:13,233 has worked in concert with our allies to impose 795 00:33:13,233 --> 00:33:15,033 some costs on the Russians. 796 00:33:15,033 --> 00:33:17,500 There's some indications that are verifiable that 797 00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:19,500 those costs have exacted 798 00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:22,633 a toll on the Russian economy. 799 00:33:22,633 --> 00:33:26,100 And we stand ready and are prepared to place 800 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:28,533 on additional sanctions if necessary. 801 00:33:28,533 --> 00:33:31,500 But it is our effort to use those sanctions 802 00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:35,133 to try to get the Russians to agree to a diplomatic 803 00:33:35,133 --> 00:33:37,166 process that would deescalate the tensions, 804 00:33:37,166 --> 00:33:40,200 and that's the focal point of our efforts right now. 805 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,200 Ed. 806 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,200 The Press: Josh, I don't 807 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,200 want to be as pessimistic as Kristen was -- 808 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,200 (laughter) 809 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,200 -- but on the jobs report, mixed bag. 810 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,900 You can tout that you've got over 190,000 jobs 811 00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:52,367 created in March -- nothing to sneeze at. 812 00:33:52,367 --> 00:33:54,800 But when you've got long-term unemployed still 813 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,966 very high, you've got manufacturing -- 814 00:33:56,967 --> 00:33:59,233 which the President highlights a lot -- had its first downturn 815 00:33:59,233 --> 00:34:01,667 in jobs; small downturn, but downturn, 816 00:34:01,667 --> 00:34:03,132 first one since July. 817 00:34:03,133 --> 00:34:04,133 Where's the recovery? 818 00:34:04,133 --> 00:34:05,800 Mr. Earnest: Well, Ed, I'll tell you, as somebody 819 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,834 who has stood up here for a couple of years now 820 00:34:07,834 --> 00:34:14,467 and talked about jobs reports, the timeframe in which 821 00:34:14,467 --> 00:34:16,900 questions about the jobs reports are asked 822 00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:21,567 is a pretty good indicator of how good 823 00:34:21,567 --> 00:34:23,166 or bad the jobs reports may be. 824 00:34:23,166 --> 00:34:25,567 It has been my observation that when the jobs reports 825 00:34:25,567 --> 00:34:26,734 are really bad, a whole lot of people 826 00:34:26,734 --> 00:34:27,967 ask about them right at the beginning, 827 00:34:27,967 --> 00:34:30,433 and when they're pretty good the questions about 828 00:34:30,433 --> 00:34:32,632 the jobs reports tend to come later in the briefing. 829 00:34:32,632 --> 00:34:33,332 The Press: Mideast was kind of exhausted, 830 00:34:33,333 --> 00:34:33,934 so I thought I would ask -- 831 00:34:33,934 --> 00:34:36,100 Mr. Earnest: Understandable. 832 00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:37,766 Here's what I'll say about the jobs 833 00:34:37,766 --> 00:34:39,567 report: We actually think the jobs report was pretty 834 00:34:39,567 --> 00:34:42,132 encouraging in terms of what it says about 835 00:34:42,132 --> 00:34:43,667 our economic recovery. 836 00:34:43,667 --> 00:34:44,933 We're certainly not satisfied. 837 00:34:44,934 --> 00:34:46,133 We continue to believe that there's 838 00:34:46,132 --> 00:34:47,500 a lot of work that can and should 839 00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:50,632 be done to strengthen our economy, to support the private 840 00:34:50,632 --> 00:34:53,299 sector as it leads our recovery. 841 00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:54,667 That being said, there are plenty of reasons 842 00:34:54,667 --> 00:34:56,699 to look at this report and feel good about it. 843 00:34:56,699 --> 00:34:59,633 As you point out, 192,000 private sector jobs 844 00:34:59,633 --> 00:35:01,232 were created just last month. 845 00:35:01,233 --> 00:35:03,367 That's 2.3 million private sector jobs that 846 00:35:03,367 --> 00:35:05,266 were created over the course of the last year. 847 00:35:05,266 --> 00:35:08,300 The other thing I'd point out that has been observed 848 00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:10,633 by some is that if you look back at the 849 00:35:10,633 --> 00:35:14,232 last 19 months of jobs reports, 18 of them -- 850 00:35:14,233 --> 00:35:18,700 18 of those 19 jobs reports over the last 19 months 851 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:20,399 have been revised upward. 852 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,200 So there's an indication that these initial reports 853 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,500 don't tell the whole story about the strength 854 00:35:24,500 --> 00:35:25,500 of the economy. 855 00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:28,600 So what the President will do is look to build 856 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,133 on what we see is some -- is at least 857 00:35:32,133 --> 00:35:35,000 a little momentum in our recovery. 858 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,600 And that's why the President has advocated 859 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,900 a whole range of things from investments in research 860 00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:43,200 and development, to making college education a little 861 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,332 bit easier for people to afford -- the kinds of 862 00:35:45,333 --> 00:35:46,900 things that will create jobs and strengthen our 863 00:35:46,900 --> 00:35:48,166 economy over the long term. 864 00:35:48,166 --> 00:35:49,867 And the President is going to continue to advocate 865 00:35:49,867 --> 00:35:50,600 for those things. 866 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:51,799 The Press: Another thing that's been noted 867 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,934 in a positive direction is that if you go back to 2010, 868 00:35:54,934 --> 00:35:58,533 there's now been created I think it's 8.9 million 869 00:35:58,533 --> 00:36:01,232 private sector jobs, which sort of wipes 870 00:36:01,233 --> 00:36:03,667 out the 8.8 million lost in the recession -- 871 00:36:03,667 --> 00:36:05,400 another positive sign. 872 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,333 Nancy Pelosi said that that suggests 873 00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:10,266 to her that we've wiped out all the lost jobs from what 874 00:36:10,266 --> 00:36:11,934 she called the Bush economic policies, 875 00:36:11,934 --> 00:36:13,100 the Bush recession. 876 00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:14,967 After more than five years in office, 877 00:36:14,967 --> 00:36:17,633 can you go to the voters in November, the midterms, 878 00:36:17,633 --> 00:36:20,265 and really say this is still a Bush recession 879 00:36:20,266 --> 00:36:22,233 that we're coming out of after the President 880 00:36:22,233 --> 00:36:23,333 has had over five years? 881 00:36:23,333 --> 00:36:23,900 Mr. Earnest: I think what 882 00:36:23,900 --> 00:36:26,266 most American voters understand is that we didn't get 883 00:36:26,266 --> 00:36:28,667 into the worst economic recession since 884 00:36:28,667 --> 00:36:30,933 the Great Depression overnight and we're 885 00:36:30,934 --> 00:36:32,433 not going to dig out of it overnight. 886 00:36:32,433 --> 00:36:34,200 And clearly, that's been the case. 887 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,165 But because of the persistence and grit 888 00:36:36,166 --> 00:36:38,767 of the American people, and because of the efforts 889 00:36:38,767 --> 00:36:40,366 of this administration to support the private 890 00:36:40,367 --> 00:36:42,834 sector in the recovery, we have made a ton of progress. 891 00:36:42,834 --> 00:36:44,734 And I do think that it's notable that 892 00:36:44,734 --> 00:36:47,033 over six years we finally dug out of the hole, 893 00:36:47,033 --> 00:36:48,667 if you're counting private sector jobs. 894 00:36:48,667 --> 00:36:50,734 But we're not going to rest on our laurels here; 895 00:36:50,734 --> 00:36:52,266 that there is so much more work that needs 896 00:36:52,266 --> 00:36:54,533 to be done to expand economic opportunity 897 00:36:54,533 --> 00:36:55,866 for everybody in this country. 898 00:36:55,867 --> 00:36:57,800 And that will continue to be, as it has been 899 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,400 since his first day in office, the top item 900 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,367 on the President's domestic policymaking agenda. 901 00:37:02,367 --> 00:37:03,367 The Press: I just want to ask you 902 00:37:03,367 --> 00:37:04,734 on a different topic -- same-sex marriage. 903 00:37:04,734 --> 00:37:07,567 The chief executive at Mozilla resigned yesterday 904 00:37:07,567 --> 00:37:08,834 because there was this controversy 905 00:37:08,834 --> 00:37:11,567 in the last couple of days that several years ago 906 00:37:11,567 --> 00:37:14,967 he gave $1,000 to an effort to ban same-sex marriage 907 00:37:14,967 --> 00:37:16,934 and the Prop 8 issue in California. 908 00:37:16,934 --> 00:37:18,600 My question is that there's been 909 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,633 a lot of back-and-forth about this because 910 00:37:20,633 --> 00:37:23,165 there was intense criticism of people wanting 911 00:37:23,166 --> 00:37:27,633 to boycott the Firefox browser because of his support 912 00:37:27,633 --> 00:37:29,200 of banning same-sex marriage. 913 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,165 The President himself in 2008, 914 00:37:31,166 --> 00:37:33,967 when this person donated $1,000 to that cause, 915 00:37:33,967 --> 00:37:36,600 also was against same-sex marriage. 916 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,000 Does the White House think that there should 917 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,500 at least be tolerance on the issue, even though the President 918 00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:43,033 has evolved on this issue and now supports same-sex 919 00:37:43,033 --> 00:37:44,567 marriage, that there should be tolerance 920 00:37:44,567 --> 00:37:45,567 on the issue and that there should 921 00:37:45,567 --> 00:37:47,033 be other views heard? 922 00:37:47,033 --> 00:37:49,133 Mr. Earnest: Well, I certainly understand 923 00:37:49,133 --> 00:37:51,200 why an issue like this has been in the news and 924 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,265 why a lot of people are talking about it. 925 00:37:52,266 --> 00:37:54,100 But I'm not going to be in a position to weigh in on 926 00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:56,366 decisions made by a private company like this. 927 00:37:56,367 --> 00:37:58,066 Michelle. 928 00:37:58,066 --> 00:37:59,667 The Press: I was going to ask about jobs first, 929 00:37:59,667 --> 00:38:01,266 you just didn't call on me first. 930 00:38:01,266 --> 00:38:01,800 (laughter) 931 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,367 So it depends on where you go. 932 00:38:03,367 --> 00:38:03,834 Mr. Earnest: I have learned my lesson. 933 00:38:03,834 --> 00:38:04,366 (laughter) 934 00:38:04,367 --> 00:38:06,000 I have learned my lesson. 935 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,800 The Press: After some really strong criticism 936 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,333 over the last couple of weeks over Ukraine, 937 00:38:12,333 --> 00:38:13,867 you might say the President has had a really 938 00:38:13,867 --> 00:38:16,166 good week with the health care numbers and 939 00:38:16,166 --> 00:38:18,133 now job numbers -- I mean, definitely 940 00:38:18,133 --> 00:38:19,600 not a negative there. 941 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,366 So why do you think that these positives 942 00:38:23,367 --> 00:38:25,500 consistently don't translate 943 00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:27,667 into positive poll numbers? 944 00:38:27,667 --> 00:38:29,033 And does the administration feel 945 00:38:29,033 --> 00:38:31,066 like the message needs to change 946 00:38:31,066 --> 00:38:32,899 at all going into midterms? 947 00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:34,800 I mean, we heard this speech at the University 948 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,533 of Michigan this week and the President seemed 949 00:38:36,533 --> 00:38:39,100 really fired up and feisty, almost like 950 00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:42,767 that was going to be a stump speech-ish type. 951 00:38:42,767 --> 00:38:46,933 Mr. Earnest: Did he seem fired up and ready to go? 952 00:38:46,934 --> 00:38:47,934 (laughter) 953 00:38:47,934 --> 00:38:48,934 The Press: Oh, no. 954 00:38:48,934 --> 00:38:50,233 (laughter) 955 00:38:50,233 --> 00:38:51,700 The Press: What is the message? 956 00:38:51,700 --> 00:38:52,232 Mr. Earnest: We can go back to that if we want. 957 00:38:52,233 --> 00:38:52,800 The Press: It was relaxed. 958 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:53,000 He was relaxed a bit. 959 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,600 But how do you shape the message to actually 960 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:59,200 get what you call a positive across to the public? 961 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,667 Because in our view it doesn't really seem 962 00:39:01,667 --> 00:39:02,866 to translate, does it? 963 00:39:02,867 --> 00:39:04,967 Mr. Earnest: Well, I'm not sure I entirely agree 964 00:39:04,967 --> 00:39:05,967 with that assessment. 965 00:39:05,967 --> 00:39:08,934 The two things that you cited that you would 966 00:39:08,934 --> 00:39:11,667 anticipate would have a reaction in the polls 967 00:39:11,667 --> 00:39:13,165 only occurred three or four days ago. 968 00:39:13,166 --> 00:39:15,633 So it may be too early to assess. 969 00:39:15,633 --> 00:39:18,433 The Press: But these are the numbers 970 00:39:18,433 --> 00:39:19,567 over four years. 971 00:39:19,567 --> 00:39:20,166 I mean, you're good at putting these numbers out 972 00:39:20,166 --> 00:39:22,467 on social media -- 8.9 million jobs -- 973 00:39:22,467 --> 00:39:24,200 but would the average American know that? 974 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,933 And what do you do with the message from there? 975 00:39:28,934 --> 00:39:31,033 Mr. Earnest: Right, well, what our strategy 976 00:39:31,033 --> 00:39:33,567 is and what it has been since the beginning -- 977 00:39:33,567 --> 00:39:36,333 and I think historians will evaluate 978 00:39:36,333 --> 00:39:39,433 our success at doing this, 979 00:39:39,433 --> 00:39:40,900 although the President's reelection 980 00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:43,100 would certainly be an important part of this. 981 00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:47,133 Our strategy has been to focus on expanding 982 00:39:47,133 --> 00:39:49,133 economic opportunity for everybody in this 983 00:39:49,133 --> 00:39:52,265 country with a particular focus on the middle class. 984 00:39:52,266 --> 00:39:53,667 That is something that animated the 985 00:39:53,667 --> 00:39:56,467 President's campaign in 2007. 986 00:39:56,467 --> 00:39:58,867 It was an important part of the policies that 987 00:39:58,867 --> 00:40:02,433 we put in place to recover from the urgent 988 00:40:02,433 --> 00:40:06,000 situation that was the worst economic downturn 989 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,467 since the Great Depression. 990 00:40:07,467 --> 00:40:09,867 And over the long term, as that recovery has started 991 00:40:09,867 --> 00:40:12,867 to gain some traction, the President has been focused 992 00:40:12,867 --> 00:40:14,734 on trying to build on that momentum and make 993 00:40:14,734 --> 00:40:17,866 sure that opportunity that flows from that 994 00:40:17,867 --> 00:40:21,200 momentum flows to everybody. 995 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,734 And that is why the President worked 996 00:40:24,734 --> 00:40:28,633 so hard to pass health care reform, 997 00:40:28,633 --> 00:40:31,600 because it will provide greater stability and security 998 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,734 to people all across the country. 999 00:40:33,734 --> 00:40:34,933 It will lower health care costs 1000 00:40:34,934 --> 00:40:36,100 for small businesses. 1001 00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:38,165 It will lower the health care costs 1002 00:40:38,166 --> 00:40:40,166 for the government and reduce our deficit. 1003 00:40:40,166 --> 00:40:42,133 It will also and most importantly, 1004 00:40:42,133 --> 00:40:47,332 many would argue, expand access to quality and affordable 1005 00:40:47,333 --> 00:40:49,834 health insurance to every single American. 1006 00:40:49,834 --> 00:40:51,399 No longer do people have to go to bed 1007 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,400 at night worried that they're 1008 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,300 just one illness away from bankruptcy. 1009 00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:58,700 So that is one example of how the President's 1010 00:40:58,700 --> 00:41:01,600 core focus on expanding economic opportunity 1011 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:07,767 has animated his efforts to pass a domestic 1012 00:41:07,767 --> 00:41:11,000 agenda that he believes in and that he campaigned on. 1013 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,700 And in terms of our strategy 1014 00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:16,133 for the second term, our priorities remain the same. 1015 00:41:16,133 --> 00:41:17,433 That's why you see the President 1016 00:41:17,433 --> 00:41:19,300 strongly advocating for equal pay. 1017 00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:20,600 That's why you see the President strongly 1018 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,033 advocating for raising the minimum wage 1019 00:41:22,033 --> 00:41:23,734 to $10.10 an hour. 1020 00:41:23,734 --> 00:41:24,967 That's why you see the President strongly 1021 00:41:24,967 --> 00:41:28,266 advocating for more investments 1022 00:41:28,266 --> 00:41:29,300 in research and development. 1023 00:41:29,300 --> 00:41:31,800 These are the kinds of things that will create 1024 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,734 jobs in the short term but also lay a foundation 1025 00:41:34,734 --> 00:41:36,866 for our long-term economic strength. 1026 00:41:36,867 --> 00:41:40,967 And ultimately that is what our domestic 1027 00:41:40,967 --> 00:41:44,700 policymaking goal is, and that's the reason 1028 00:41:44,700 --> 00:41:47,366 the President ran for office and that is what 1029 00:41:47,367 --> 00:41:48,767 will continue to be our priority. 1030 00:41:48,767 --> 00:41:51,100 Cheryl. 1031 00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:51,600 The Press: Thanks. 1032 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,400 Here at home, the President yesterday 1033 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,367 signed a bill that would eliminate public funding 1034 00:41:57,367 --> 00:41:59,800 of party conventions and then of course 1035 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,000 the Supreme Court ruled this week on lifting 1036 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,200 aggregate contribution limits. 1037 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,033 This puts a lot of control or power in the hands 1038 00:42:08,033 --> 00:42:09,866 of a few wealthy donors. 1039 00:42:09,867 --> 00:42:11,633 Is the President concerned that there's 1040 00:42:11,633 --> 00:42:15,799 too much influence on fewer people, and can he do anything 1041 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,867 to spread that out? 1042 00:42:19,867 --> 00:42:20,934 Mr. Earnest: Well, I would say that 1043 00:42:20,934 --> 00:42:22,867 not everybody would agree with that analysis. 1044 00:42:22,867 --> 00:42:27,000 I know that there are some who have said that there's 1045 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:32,600 a chance that reducing the aggregate donor limits 1046 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,933 could lead to a scenario where there 1047 00:42:35,934 --> 00:42:39,934 are more admittedly wealthy donors who are empowered. 1048 00:42:39,934 --> 00:42:45,734 So I think there's some dispute about exactly 1049 00:42:45,734 --> 00:42:49,400 what the conclusions will be. 1050 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,600 I, frankly, don't know what the result will 1051 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,033 be of the Supreme Court's election. 1052 00:42:54,033 --> 00:42:56,100 I think it remains to be seen. 1053 00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:58,799 As a general matter, let me just say that 1054 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:05,467 the President does believe that special interests, 1055 00:43:05,467 --> 00:43:09,734 often using campaign contributions, 1056 00:43:09,734 --> 00:43:12,333 wield too much influence in Washington, D.C., 1057 00:43:12,333 --> 00:43:14,333 and that one of the reasons that he ran for President 1058 00:43:14,333 --> 00:43:15,700 was because he wanted to change business 1059 00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:17,100 as usual in Washington. 1060 00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:19,967 So he's advocated for a range of things, 1061 00:43:19,967 --> 00:43:22,100 including some campaign finance proposals 1062 00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:23,834 that would do exactly that. 1063 00:43:23,834 --> 00:43:26,399 But in terms of assessing the impact of this 1064 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,700 recent Supreme Court ruling, I think it's just 1065 00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:31,700 too early to tell exactly what impact it will have. 1066 00:43:31,700 --> 00:43:35,600 Mike. 1067 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,266 The Press: So in honor of baseball, 1068 00:43:37,266 --> 00:43:39,333 this one is a little bit out of left field. 1069 00:43:39,333 --> 00:43:40,000 Mr. Earnest: Nice. 1070 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:40,533 Well done. 1071 00:43:40,533 --> 00:43:43,433 (laughter) 1072 00:43:43,433 --> 00:43:44,433 The Press: The President, if I recall 1073 00:43:44,433 --> 00:43:47,266 correctly on a trip back or to the memorial 1074 00:43:47,266 --> 00:43:51,033 for Mandela -- I'm not sure if it was going over 1075 00:43:51,033 --> 00:43:56,033 or coming back -- saw President Bush's 1076 00:43:56,033 --> 00:43:58,100 artwork on his iPad. 1077 00:43:58,100 --> 00:44:02,933 Given that the art is now being displayed publicly 1078 00:44:02,934 --> 00:44:04,934 for the first time, do you have any idea whether 1079 00:44:04,934 --> 00:44:10,800 President Obama has noted or seen the artwork that's 1080 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,400 being displayed and whether he or the White 1081 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,633 House has any reaction to it and the world leaders 1082 00:44:15,633 --> 00:44:19,033 that are being portrayed by a former occupant 1083 00:44:19,233 --> 00:44:20,433 of this building? 1084 00:44:20,433 --> 00:44:21,800 Mr. Earnest: I don't know what the overlap 1085 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,667 is between the works that are being exhibited 1086 00:44:23,667 --> 00:44:25,467 and the works that were contained 1087 00:44:25,467 --> 00:44:28,633 on President Bush's iPad. 1088 00:44:28,633 --> 00:44:31,066 The only thing I really know is that, in private, 1089 00:44:31,066 --> 00:44:35,834 I've heard President Obama speak about President 1090 00:44:35,834 --> 00:44:40,133 Bush's works in a very complimentary fashion. 1091 00:44:40,133 --> 00:44:43,000 I think that's been the reaction from a lot of 1092 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,667 people that I have seen -- that people have been 1093 00:44:45,667 --> 00:44:50,033 impressed at his -- both at his natural ability 1094 00:44:50,033 --> 00:44:53,299 but also at the way that he has pursued an interest 1095 00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:54,266 that I think a lot of people didn't 1096 00:44:54,266 --> 00:44:55,266 expect him to have. 1097 00:44:55,266 --> 00:44:57,500 The Press: Do you remember any specifics that 1098 00:44:57,500 --> 00:44:58,700 the President has said? 1099 00:44:58,700 --> 00:44:59,899 Mr. Earnest: I don't. 1100 00:44:59,900 --> 00:45:01,633 Let's move around a little bit. 1101 00:45:01,633 --> 00:45:02,633 Jared. 1102 00:45:02,633 --> 00:45:04,165 The Press: Does the White House -- will the White 1103 00:45:04,166 --> 00:45:06,767 House have any guidance for what the President 1104 00:45:06,767 --> 00:45:09,100 will fundraise on, respective of McCutcheon, 1105 00:45:09,100 --> 00:45:11,266 before the 2014 cycle? 1106 00:45:11,266 --> 00:45:12,567 Is this something where you're going 1107 00:45:12,567 --> 00:45:14,166 to be kicking out people who have already donated 1108 00:45:14,166 --> 00:45:16,633 the maximum because you're going to turn them away? 1109 00:45:16,633 --> 00:45:18,667 Will the President do these fundraisers? 1110 00:45:18,667 --> 00:45:21,066 Mr. Earnest: Jared, I know that you asked Jay about 1111 00:45:21,066 --> 00:45:22,633 this yesterday and I just don't have anything 1112 00:45:22,633 --> 00:45:23,633 new for you on this. 1113 00:45:23,633 --> 00:45:26,533 The Press: In advance of the November 2014 1114 00:45:26,533 --> 00:45:28,200 elections, will the President 1115 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,633 or will the White House or the DNC have guidelines 1116 00:45:29,633 --> 00:45:31,799 for what the President will be doing? 1117 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,734 Mr. Earnest: If we do have guidelines like that, 1118 00:45:33,734 --> 00:45:35,100 I will make sure you're among the first 1119 00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:36,232 to know about them, how about that? 1120 00:45:36,233 --> 00:45:39,834 The Press: And for the 591 people who donated the 1121 00:45:39,834 --> 00:45:41,667 maximum in the 2010 to 2012 cycle, 1122 00:45:41,667 --> 00:45:44,500 does the President feel like it's a good thing 1123 00:45:44,500 --> 00:45:46,934 that they will have the ability 1124 00:45:46,934 --> 00:45:48,667 to donate more in the 2013 to 2014 cycle? 1125 00:45:48,667 --> 00:45:51,133 Mr. Earnest: That's a very creative way of asking 1126 00:45:51,133 --> 00:45:53,799 that question, so I compliment you 1127 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,233 on your artistic ability as well. 1128 00:45:55,233 --> 00:45:56,100 The Press: Thank you. 1129 00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:58,066 Mr. Earnest: But, again, I just don't have anything 1130 00:45:58,066 --> 00:46:01,066 more for you in terms of the practical 1131 00:46:01,066 --> 00:46:02,633 impact of this week's Supreme Court ruling. 1132 00:46:02,633 --> 00:46:05,133 But if and when we get to a place where we have a 1133 00:46:05,133 --> 00:46:08,700 specific policy change that governs the 1134 00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:11,000 President's fundraising activities, 1135 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,300 like I said, you'll be among the first to know. 1136 00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:14,667 We'll go in the back. 1137 00:46:14,667 --> 00:46:15,667 Yes, way in the back. 1138 00:46:15,667 --> 00:46:16,667 Right there in the corner. 1139 00:46:16,667 --> 00:46:18,299 The Press: There was a telephone call that 1140 00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:21,934 appeared on the Internet this morning reporting 1141 00:46:21,934 --> 00:46:22,900 to show two Russian ambassadors, both based 1142 00:46:22,900 --> 00:46:26,066 in Africa, talking in some kind of tongue-in-cheek 1143 00:46:26,066 --> 00:46:29,966 terms about taking over the world. 1144 00:46:29,967 --> 00:46:30,967 The question is whether the 1145 00:46:30,967 --> 00:46:34,233 U.S. administration had any involvement 1146 00:46:34,233 --> 00:46:36,467 or prior knowledge of either the interception 1147 00:46:36,467 --> 00:46:38,133 or leak of that call? 1148 00:46:38,133 --> 00:46:40,899 Mr. Earnest: I have to admit that I've seen those 1149 00:46:40,900 --> 00:46:44,000 -- I saw those reports about the call but I know 1150 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,467 nothing about them beyond what 1151 00:46:45,467 --> 00:46:47,667 I read in those reports, so I'm not in a position 1152 00:46:47,667 --> 00:46:48,667 to comment on them. 1153 00:46:48,667 --> 00:46:49,667 But we can certainly take the question, 1154 00:46:49,667 --> 00:46:53,799 and if you want to consult with one of my National Security 1155 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:54,800 Council colleagues we can look into it for you. 1156 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,800 The Press: Sure. 1157 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:56,800 The last time this was an issue, with respect 1158 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,300 to Victoria Nuland and Lady Ashton -- 1159 00:46:58,300 --> 00:46:59,300 Mr. Earnest: I remember. 1160 00:46:59,300 --> 00:47:00,367 The Press: Yes. 1161 00:47:00,367 --> 00:47:01,367 The White House -- 1162 00:47:01,367 --> 00:47:02,367 Mr. Earnest: It was colorful. 1163 00:47:02,367 --> 00:47:03,367 The Press: It was, indeed. 1164 00:47:03,367 --> 00:47:04,367 And you expressed some concern that these 1165 00:47:04,367 --> 00:47:05,367 calls were being made public. 1166 00:47:05,367 --> 00:47:07,567 Do you share similar concerns about the leaking 1167 00:47:07,567 --> 00:47:10,100 of calls of diplomats when they're Russians? 1168 00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:13,232 Mr. Earnest: I think as a general principle, 1169 00:47:13,233 --> 00:47:15,800 yes, that we believe that the diplomats should 1170 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,333 be able to have those kinds of conversations. 1171 00:47:19,333 --> 00:47:22,100 But, again, I hesitate to just weigh in here because 1172 00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:23,700 I don't -- again, I don't really know anything 1173 00:47:23,700 --> 00:47:26,332 about it beyond what I read about it in the newspaper. 1174 00:47:26,333 --> 00:47:27,900 The Press: And I just wanted to follow-up 1175 00:47:27,900 --> 00:47:30,166 on something kind of unrelated, going back 1176 00:47:30,166 --> 00:47:31,700 to the Cuban Twitter. 1177 00:47:31,700 --> 00:47:34,899 I know Jay yesterday was saying that this wasn't 1178 00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:36,367 covert because it wasn't identified 1179 00:47:36,367 --> 00:47:38,400 as an intelligence program, but it was, 1180 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,433 in his words, discreet. 1181 00:47:39,433 --> 00:47:42,367 Given the extensive efforts that were 1182 00:47:42,367 --> 00:47:46,000 undertaken to conceal this program, 1183 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,400 would you go as far as to admit that it was secret? 1184 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,233 Mr. Earnest: No, I think I'll just -- 1185 00:47:53,233 --> 00:47:55,767 in a variation on what Jay said yesterday, if it was 1186 00:47:55,767 --> 00:47:57,100 secret, I wouldn't be willing to talk to you 1187 00:47:57,100 --> 00:47:58,066 about it right now. 1188 00:47:58,066 --> 00:47:58,866 The Press: And if it wasn't secret, 1189 00:47:58,867 --> 00:48:01,467 could you talk to us about any other similar programs 1190 00:48:01,467 --> 00:48:04,000 that you have underway elsewhere in the world? 1191 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,500 Mr. Earnest: I don't have any knowledge of them, 1192 00:48:06,500 --> 00:48:08,700 but if you wanted to check with USAID I'm sure 1193 00:48:08,700 --> 00:48:10,767 they'd be happy to talk to you about some of the other 1194 00:48:10,767 --> 00:48:12,033 development programs that 1195 00:48:12,033 --> 00:48:15,266 they have underway across the globe. 1196 00:48:15,266 --> 00:48:15,767 Chris. 1197 00:48:15,767 --> 00:48:17,734 The Press: Thanks, Jay -- Josh, pardon me. 1198 00:48:17,734 --> 00:48:18,333 Mr. Earnest: That's okay. 1199 00:48:18,333 --> 00:48:20,900 It happens about once a time when I'm up here. 1200 00:48:20,900 --> 00:48:21,567 (laughter) 1201 00:48:21,567 --> 00:48:22,834 It's okay, you're the one today. 1202 00:48:22,834 --> 00:48:24,799 The Press: I want to follow up on Jay's remarks 1203 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,300 yesterday that an executive order protecting 1204 00:48:26,300 --> 00:48:28,100 LGBT workers would be redundant 1205 00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:29,667 if the Employment Non-Discrimination Act 1206 00:48:29,667 --> 00:48:30,667 were in place. 1207 00:48:30,667 --> 00:48:32,033 A lot of groups who are unhappy with that are 1208 00:48:32,033 --> 00:48:33,767 saying those views are inconsistent with civil 1209 00:48:33,767 --> 00:48:35,433 rights protections for other groups -- 1210 00:48:35,433 --> 00:48:37,100 in fact, the LGBT group Freedom to Work 1211 00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:38,266 is calling for a retraction. 1212 00:48:38,266 --> 00:48:40,100 Does the White House now see value having both 1213 00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:42,000 ENDA and the executive order in place? 1214 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,900 Mr. Earnest: I know that this, Chris, 1215 00:48:43,900 --> 00:48:45,333 is something that you ask about quite a bit. 1216 00:48:45,333 --> 00:48:48,100 The fact of the matter is our position 1217 00:48:48,100 --> 00:48:53,100 on legislation that would codify into 1218 00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:56,232 the law that individuals can't be discriminated against 1219 00:48:56,233 --> 00:48:58,500 at work just because of who they love -- 1220 00:48:58,500 --> 00:49:00,700 we strongly support that legislation. 1221 00:49:00,700 --> 00:49:03,332 We continue to urge Congress 1222 00:49:03,333 --> 00:49:05,000 to pass that legislation. 1223 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,967 And that is what our position is. 1224 00:49:06,967 --> 00:49:10,266 That is our position not just because 1225 00:49:10,266 --> 00:49:12,166 you ask about it every day, but also because 1226 00:49:12,166 --> 00:49:13,600 this is a strongly held view of the 1227 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:14,933 President of the United States. 1228 00:49:14,934 --> 00:49:17,667 This is a priority of his, and he continues to 1229 00:49:17,667 --> 00:49:19,633 advocate for its passage along with a number 1230 00:49:19,633 --> 00:49:22,066 of allies on the Democratic side in Congress 1231 00:49:22,066 --> 00:49:23,633 for the passage of this legislation. 1232 00:49:23,633 --> 00:49:24,633 And that's something that we're going 1233 00:49:24,633 --> 00:49:26,133 to continue to do. 1234 00:49:26,133 --> 00:49:27,834 The Press: But that doesn't address 1235 00:49:27,834 --> 00:49:28,133 the issue of redundancy. 1236 00:49:28,133 --> 00:49:28,667 Does the White House also believe that executive 1237 00:49:28,667 --> 00:49:31,200 order 11246 -- the existing directive 1238 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,100 that bars discrimination among federal contractors 1239 00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:34,967 on the basis of race, religion and gender -- 1240 00:49:34,967 --> 00:49:36,867 is redundant under existing civil rights law? 1241 00:49:36,867 --> 00:49:37,867 Mr. Earnest: I'll be honest with you, 1242 00:49:37,867 --> 00:49:39,633 I'm not familiar with those -- with that specific 1243 00:49:39,633 --> 00:49:41,633 executive order, but we can certainly 1244 00:49:41,633 --> 00:49:42,299 look into it for you. 1245 00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:45,800 But in terms of the thrust of your question, the 1246 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,367 President's unwavering support for ENDA 1247 00:49:47,367 --> 00:49:48,567 legislation has not changed. 1248 00:49:48,567 --> 00:49:51,467 The Press: Josh, to be more specific 1249 00:49:51,467 --> 00:49:54,500 on the Afghanistan elections, is the President confident 1250 00:49:54,500 --> 00:49:59,734 that the Afghan security forces can take care of 1251 00:49:59,734 --> 00:50:02,667 and keep at bay or whatever those who would 1252 00:50:02,667 --> 00:50:05,133 bring fear and chaos to this process that 1253 00:50:05,133 --> 00:50:06,600 they continue to try to do? 1254 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,100 Or is there some sort of plan B where the 1255 00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:11,533 international security forces might raise 1256 00:50:11,533 --> 00:50:13,467 their profile during a long process? 1257 00:50:13,467 --> 00:50:19,633 Mr. Earnest: There has been a handover 1258 00:50:19,633 --> 00:50:21,633 of responsibility for security 1259 00:50:21,633 --> 00:50:23,299 to the Afghan forces. 1260 00:50:23,300 --> 00:50:27,133 And that handover is not going to be rolled back. 1261 00:50:27,133 --> 00:50:28,834 There are -- there continue 1262 00:50:28,834 --> 00:50:31,866 to be American troops on the ground in Afghanistan, 1263 00:50:31,867 --> 00:50:36,200 but they are there merely to support the Afghans as they have 1264 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,299 -- are in the lead when it comes 1265 00:50:37,300 --> 00:50:39,300 to the security responsibility for their country. 1266 00:50:39,300 --> 00:50:41,934 That will continue to be true over the course 1267 00:50:41,934 --> 00:50:43,967 of the elections, and we are hopeful 1268 00:50:43,967 --> 00:50:47,900 that these elections will be conducted peacefully 1269 00:50:47,900 --> 00:50:50,100 and in the spirit of the kind of democracy 1270 00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:52,133 that the Afghan people deserve. 1271 00:50:52,133 --> 00:50:53,767 The Press: So the President still has 1272 00:50:53,767 --> 00:50:54,500 confidence in the Afghan security forces? 1273 00:50:54,500 --> 00:50:56,533 Mr. Earnest: Well, look, there's no doubt -- 1274 00:50:56,533 --> 00:50:58,633 and I don't want to minimize the challenges that they face 1275 00:50:58,633 --> 00:51:03,000 -- there continues to be a very pernicious element 1276 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,400 in Afghanistan that I'm confident will take some 1277 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,467 rather extreme measures to try 1278 00:51:07,467 --> 00:51:09,100 to disrupt the elections. 1279 00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:12,500 But at the same time, it's fair to say that this 1280 00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:14,133 administration and I think the American people 1281 00:51:14,133 --> 00:51:17,399 have been impressed at the resolve of the Afghan 1282 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,967 people and the courage that they've shown to try 1283 00:51:19,967 --> 00:51:22,233 to influence the direction and the future of their 1284 00:51:22,233 --> 00:51:27,767 country, and to do so in a way that reflects 1285 00:51:27,767 --> 00:51:31,700 the kind of democracy and the kind of ability 1286 00:51:31,700 --> 00:51:33,866 to influence the course of their country that 1287 00:51:33,867 --> 00:51:35,000 they would like to wield. 1288 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,100 So we are supportive of their efforts and we stand 1289 00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:38,933 with them as they participate in this 1290 00:51:38,934 --> 00:51:41,467 Afghan-led process. 1291 00:51:41,467 --> 00:51:45,600 The Press: Do you have a week ahead, Josh? 1292 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,767 Mr. Earnest: Indeed I do. 1293 00:51:48,767 --> 00:51:50,567 On Monday, the President will travel 1294 00:51:50,567 --> 00:51:53,000 to Prince George's County, Maryland to host 1295 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,000 an event on the economy. 1296 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,633 Following this event, he'll return to the White 1297 00:51:56,633 --> 00:51:58,033 House where he will meet with the commander 1298 00:51:58,033 --> 00:51:59,834 in chief and executive director 1299 00:51:59,834 --> 00:52:02,466 of the Veterans of Foreign Wars. 1300 00:52:02,467 --> 00:52:04,600 On Tuesday, the President will host an event 1301 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,299 on the economy at the White House. 1302 00:52:07,300 --> 00:52:08,700 On Wednesday, the President 1303 00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:10,500 and First Lady will begin a two-day trip 1304 00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:12,233 to the Lone Star state. and the DCCC in Houston. 1305 00:52:12,233 --> 00:52:14,033 More details regarding the President and First Lady's 1306 00:52:14,033 --> 00:52:20,000 travel to Houston will be forthcoming. 1307 00:52:24,967 --> 00:52:28,367 On Thursday, the President and First Lady will travel 1308 00:52:28,367 --> 00:52:30,567 to the Lyndon Baines Johnson Library 1309 00:52:30,567 --> 00:52:31,567 in Austin, Texas. 1310 00:52:31,567 --> 00:52:32,767 The President will deliver remarks at a civil rights 1311 00:52:32,767 --> 00:52:34,734 summit to commemorate the 50th anniversary 1312 00:52:34,734 --> 00:52:37,232 of the signing of the Civil Rights Act. 1313 00:52:37,233 --> 00:52:39,100 The President and First Lady will return 1314 00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:41,667 to Washington, D.C. in the afternoon. 1315 00:52:41,667 --> 00:52:44,266 On Friday, the President will travel to New York 1316 00:52:44,266 --> 00:52:46,600 to deliver remarks at the National Action Network's 1317 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,000 16th annual convention. 1318 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,600 The Press: Is he meeting with the other former 1319 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,066 Presidents while he's in Texas? 1320 00:52:52,066 --> 00:52:53,799 Mr. Earnest: It is my understanding 1321 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,734 that there will be a couple of other former Presidents 1322 00:52:56,734 --> 00:52:59,066 in attendance, but I don't have any specific 1323 00:52:59,066 --> 00:53:01,165 meetings to tell you about right now. 1324 00:53:01,166 --> 00:53:03,200 The Press: Josh, the fundraisers on Wednesday, 1325 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,667 is it one or two? 1326 00:53:04,667 --> 00:53:06,100 Mr. Earnest: It's my understanding 1327 00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:07,266 it's two separate events. 1328 00:53:07,266 --> 00:53:09,734 I don't know if it's two separate events 1329 00:53:09,734 --> 00:53:12,033 both of which jointly benefit the two different 1330 00:53:12,033 --> 00:53:15,633 committees or if it's one event targeted to one committee. 1331 00:53:15,633 --> 00:53:17,500 So as we get those details soused out we'll 1332 00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:18,500 get them to you on Tuesday. 1333 00:53:18,500 --> 00:53:19,700 The Press: There's talk of a Fort Hood 1334 00:53:19,700 --> 00:53:21,466 service next week. 1335 00:53:21,467 --> 00:53:23,000 Would he be attending that? 1336 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,400 Mr. Earnest: I appreciate the question, Peter. 1337 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,367 I don't have any changes to the schedule 1338 00:53:28,367 --> 00:53:30,233 to announce at this point, but 1339 00:53:30,233 --> 00:53:32,400 if there are any changes to the schedule we'll make 1340 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,667 sure that you know. 1341 00:53:34,667 --> 00:53:36,232 Nothing at this point, but if that changes we'll 1342 00:53:36,233 --> 00:53:37,233 let you know. 1343 00:53:37,233 --> 00:53:37,934 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 1344 00:53:37,934 --> 00:53:38,567 Mr. Earnest: Have a good weekend, everybody.