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Mr. Carney: Before I take
your questions I just

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wanted to congratulate on
behalf of the President

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and everyone here at
the White House Meb

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Keflezighi, who just won
the Boston Marathon --

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first American to do so in
31 years, which is quite

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an accomplishment and
a great year to do it.

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(applause)

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The
Press: Pretty cool.

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The Press: Well done.

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Mr. Carney: That's
absolutely true.

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And that's all I have at
the top,

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so I'll go to Julie.

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The Press: Thanks, Jay.

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A couple of
questions on Ukraine.

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Ukraine and Russia are
trading blame over

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who's responsible for the
shooting yesterday

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in eastern Ukraine.

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Can you just give
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the U.S. assessment is of
what happened there?

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Mr. Carney: Julie, what I
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we continue to monitor
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in eastern Ukraine closely.

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We've seen differing
reports about what

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happened in Slovyansk
yesterday

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but cannot independently confirm
responsibility

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for these actions.

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Overall, we are concerned
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there, and we urge paramilitary
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the eastern and southern parts
of Ukraine to lay down

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their weapons and depart
the buildings

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that they have occupied, as was
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in the accord signed in Geneva
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We continue to call
on Russia

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to use its influence over these
groups to press them

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to disarm and to turn
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over to the authorities.

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We commend the government
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for continuing to demonstrate
restraint, and are hopeful that

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all parties in the Rada will
shortly be able to agree

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on an amnesty bill to help
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the situation in the east.

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As we have said, if there
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within days we remain prepared,
along with our European

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and G7 partners, to impose
additional costs on Russia

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for its destabilizing
actions.

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So when it comes to that
specific incident, we're

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still unable independently
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responsible for what
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but there's no question that
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of destabilizing activity
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has influence over the groups
that have engaged

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in that activity, who have
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And we continue to call
on Russia

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to use that influence to
pressure those groups to disarm

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and to return the buildings
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The Press: You mentioned a
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that you commend Ukraine for
taking in order to live

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up to the conditions of this accord.

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But do you have any
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is taking the steps that
it agreed

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to under that agreement?

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Mr. Carney: Well, first
of all, they signed the

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agreement and they have
committed themselves

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by signing to use their
influence to stabilize the

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situation in Ukraine or to
urge those over whom they

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have influence to disarm
and to return buildings

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that they have occupied
back to the authorities.

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And we continue to
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As we have made clear,
should Russia continue

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to engage in destabilizing
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there will be costs.

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There has been already.

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And should they escalate
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destabilizing activity the costs
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So we're in a place now
with the Vice President

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in Kyiv and meeting with
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officials where we are
demonstrating our support

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for that government, for
the process that they have

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undertaken of both reform
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and we are continuing to
call on all parties

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to honor the agreements
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The Press: But at this
point, do you see any

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sign that Russia is doing that,
is honoring the agreement

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they made?

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Mr. Carney: What we
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situation in eastern
Ukraine that remains very

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volatile and tense and
that requires that steps

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be taken to stabilize it
because of the potential

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for it to become worse
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What we hope to see from
Russia is the use of its

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influence on those groups
that clearly respond to

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that influence.

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And we have been very
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believe that Russia has
supported the so-called

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separatists in eastern
Ukraine that have popped

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up with arms to seize
buildings, to stockpile

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weapons, to erect
roadblocks.

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And Russia needs to abide
by the agreement signed in

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Geneva and to take steps
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the situation.

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The Press: Can you just be
any more specific about

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this coming days timeline?

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Officials have been using
that since Thursday when

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this agreement was signed
and we're now at Monday.

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How much longer do you
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seeing some kind of
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holding and that
progress is being made?

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Mr. Carney: I don't have
an end date for you.

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We are in a situation
where we have potential

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new sanctions that we
could impose,

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as we mentioned last week, and
we are closely monitoring

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events in eastern Ukraine
and monitoring compliance

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with the agreement signed
in Geneva, and we will

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be evaluating compliance
in coming days.

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Roberta.

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The Press: What role did
the White House play

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either in the timing or
the substance of Friday's

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announcement on Keystone?

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Mr. Carney: The Keystone
process is run out

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of the State Department, in
keeping with past practice

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by administrations of both
parties going back

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many decades -- or much time.

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As I understand it -- and
for details you need

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to go to the State Department --
the issue here has

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to do with a court decision in
Nebraska and its impact

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on the ability for the state
process to continue,

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for agencies to be
able to comment.

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And absent a definite
route through Nebraska,

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the decision, as I
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by State is that that can't
continue until the situation

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in Nebraska is resolved.

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The Press: And is the
President frustrated

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at all at these delays, this
indefiniteness

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in the process?

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Mr. Carney: The President
wants the process

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to be conducted in a way that's
consistent with

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past practice and consistent
with the interests

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that have to be examined when
you're talking about

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an international border being
crossed by a pipeline.

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There have been a series
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the path here where politics has
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the process, as you know
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actions that Congress took, for example.

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And then there have been
other instances where

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either local or state
concerns slow

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down the process, or, in this
case, action by a state court

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had an impact on
the process itself.

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What the President has
insisted on all along

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is that this process be
run out of the State

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Department in accordance
with established tradition

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for matters like these,
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been the case here.

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The Press: So politics is
not playing a role

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in this current delay?

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Mr. Carney: Again, this
is a State Department

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process, it's a State
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so I would refer you to
the State Department.

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The Press: On Ukraine,
you talked earlier about

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Russian support for these
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who are occupying buildings
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What about evidence that
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actually be Russian?

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We've heard that Ukraine
gave the OSCE photographs

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-- photographic evidence,
they say,

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of actual Russians who
participated in earlier events

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in Crimea or even Chechnya.

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Has the U.S.

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seen these pictures,
validated them?

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What's the response to
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which certainly suggest they're
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supporting the separatists but --

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Mr. Carney: Sure. Well, there's
been broad consensus

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in the international community
about the connection

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between Russia and the
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militants in Ukraine.

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And the photographs that
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to that Ukraine has submitted to
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I think reaffirm that connection.

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We have noted in the past
reporting that --

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public reporting that indicates
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being involved in some
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The actions of the
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similarities to actions
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And I think President
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the other day that Russia --
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but Russia itself
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So we don't have any doubt
about the connection

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there, and I think that
the photographs that

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are reported on today
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The Press: So Russia
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if the separatists are still
occupying these buildings

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and there's no marked
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this accord, are the
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do you guys believe that the
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in good faith?

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It has to be about
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not a military solution, so if
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are not just supporting
separatists but separatists may

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be Russian, how are you
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the Russians on it?

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Mr. Carney: We've been
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with Russia and that was the
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Russia understands
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community holds one view
about the actions

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that Russia has taken and
supported in Ukraine,

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and that we stand prepared,
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our partners, to impose
further costs

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on Russia if Russia does not
take action

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to help stabilize the situation
in Ukraine and

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to cease promoting destabilizing activity.

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And in the coming days, if
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by the commitments it's made
and we don't see steps

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taken to reduce the
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steps taken to use the
influence that Russia

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has on the militants to get
them to disarm and

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to turn back over the buildings
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then we're prepared to
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The Press: And also on
Yemen, do you know a sense

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of timing on how long it
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you'll know if the bomb-maker,
al Asiri,

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was killed in these strikes?

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Mr. Carney: Well, we're
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and I'd point you to the
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and what the government
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In statements to the
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government has confirmed
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were carried out these weekend
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in remote training
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According to the Yemenis,
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were planning to target
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facilities in al-Bayda
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Now, I can't speak to
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but we have a strong,
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relationship, as you know,
with the Yemeni government

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and work together on
various initiatives

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to counter the shared threat
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So in terms of more
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that the Yemeni government
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I would refer you to the
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Chuck.

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The Press: Just to follow
up, you keep saying that

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you need to see evidence
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its promises and
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All there has been
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is just the opposite.

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It's been Putin saying he
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why parts of Ukraine were
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I mean, he's been
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reescalating not deescalating.

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So I guess what is the
"okay, enough" as of now?

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The Press: What are
you waiting for?

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The Press: What is
the cutoff line here?

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Mr. Carney: Again, I don't
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deadline for you except to say
that the agreement

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was signed in Geneva; we are
closely monitoring events

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in eastern Ukraine.

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The Press: Is this days?

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Mr. Carney: The situation
in coming days,

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you can expect that we will
move forward with

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the imposition of further
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if Russia does not take action
to comply with its

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commitments in Geneva.

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The Press: What is the
action that

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you guys are waiting for --
pulling troops back?

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Mr. Carney: To see that
there are actions taken

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that help stabilize
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And that would mean
militias -- armed militias

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disarming, removing
themselves from buildings

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that they have
seized and occupied.

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The other side of the
story, which is very

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important, the Ukrainian
government, again, showing

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great restraint and
professionalism, is taking

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steps that it can to
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and deescalate, and that
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in the Rada to offer amnesty
to those who have

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participated in
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The Press: By saying what
you just said,

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this means that Lavrov's claim
that somehow this was --

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that the Ukrainian government
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this recent incident is --

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Mr. Carney:
Again, we don't have --

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as I said regarding the
incident in Slovyansk,

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we don't have independent
confirmation of exactly

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what transpired there.

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But broadly speaking, we
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a great deal of activity
seemingly coordinated --

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almost indisputably
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in eastern Ukraine when it comes
to armed groups seizing

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buildings, occupying them,
declaring themselves

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autonomous or independent
and then absolutely

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in violation of Ukrainian
law and constitution.

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The Press: Can you give
us some --

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moving to the announcement today
at the Justice Department about

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the expanded potential
executive --

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of what applications for
clemency to the President --

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that make it to the President's
desk --

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can you fill in some of the gaps
of some of the criteria

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that is going to be
included in that?

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Mr. Carney: Well, probably
the gaps would best

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be filled over at the
Department of Justice.

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What I can tell you, as
we've said before,

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the President wants to make
sure that everyone

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has a fair shot under the
clemency system,

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and he has asked the Department
of Justice

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to set up a process aimed at
ensuring that anyone who has

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a good case for commutation has
their application

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seen and evaluated thoroughly.

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The number of commutations
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will depend entirely on
the number

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of worthy candidates.

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And in terms of how many
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are out there, I couldn't
begin to speculate.

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But there's a process in
place that reflects

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the President's belief that
everyone should have

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a fair shot under the
system for consideration.

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The Press: Under this same
thing, is there any --

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does the President want a
process to reconsider

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the classification
of marijuana?

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Mr. Carney: Our views on
that have not changed

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and I don't think this is a
related --

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The Press: There's no ongoing
effort to change it from being

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a Schedule 1 controlled
substance?

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Mr. Carney: Not
that I'm aware of.

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I'd refer --

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The Press:
That would have an impact

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on how many -- this does
have some impact on --

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Mr. Carney: For details
you should go to DOJ.

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And I don't want to
venture too far out here

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because I'm not a lawyer
or an expert in this,

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but this has to do with the
Fair Sentencing Act

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the President signed into
law in 2010 and

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the observation that the
President has made,

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and others of both parties
have made,

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about the inconsistency between
current law and sentences

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that many are serving now.

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And the President simply
wants a process

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by which everyone who might
potentially have

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clemency available to him or her
get the consideration

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that they deserve.

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The Press: Is there any
interest in --

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does the administration want the
Justice Department

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to look into reclassifying
marijuana?

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Mr. Carney: I don't have
anything

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new on that issue since the last
time we talked about it.

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Jon.

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The Press: Back to the
Keystone decision.

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It's obviously a decision
that

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has big political ramifications.

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Was there any
communication between

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the White House and the State

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Department before the State
Department moved forward and

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decided to delay the decision?

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Mr. Carney: Again, this
is a process

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run out of State.

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State has made an
announcement related to

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-- The Press: I'm just asking
if they talked

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to State before --

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Mr. Carney:
-- the Nebraska court

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decision.

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I don't have any
conversations

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that I'm aware of.

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This process is run out
of State and this

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is in reaction to, as I
understand it,

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a Nebraska Supreme Court
decision which could ultimately

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affect the pipeline in
that state --

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the pipeline route.

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And again, they have the
details and

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the expertise over at State in
the running of this process,

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but it stands to reason
that if you're

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in the middle of a process by
which agencies --

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and you're at the stage where
agencies are supposed

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to comment on a pipeline
route and that

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route itself may be in doubt
because of a state

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Supreme Court decision, it
stands to reason that

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more time is needed for that to
be resolved

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before the process at State
can be concluded.

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The Press: So the
President is happy

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with the decision the State
Department took?

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Mr. Carney: Again, I know
there's a great urge,

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and has always been, to make
this about politics,

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but we've seen along this
process -- along the way

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here, along the route, a
series of actions taken

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in keeping with past practice
where the reviews

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are done out of the State
Department.

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We are at a process where
agencies were able

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to weigh in and then we have
a state

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Supreme Court decision.

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The State Department has
more details or can brief

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you more fully on it,
but that obviously

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has a potential impact on the
pipeline route,

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and therefore, the decision
that

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the State Department made was made.

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The Press: Does the
President have any power

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in this area?

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Could he overrule the
State Department?

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Could he tell them
to speed this up?

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Does he have any
personal views on this?

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Is he glad to see it
pushed until after the

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elections, or would he
like to see this thing

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finally resolved?

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I mean, he's had the
answer I think -- the

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questions on this
for years now.

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Mr. Carney: The President
has been consistent in

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always wanting the process
to be conducted on the

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merits and in keeping
with past practices of

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administrations
of both parties.

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And we have seen attempts
to inject politics into

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this, actions by Congress,
for example, that have

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actually served to delay
the normal process that

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the State Department runs,
again, in administrations

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of both parties.

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So obviously nobody, as
I understand it, at the

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State Department or here
could anticipate the

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Nebraska Supreme
Court decision.

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That decision was made;
there's an assessment made

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by those who are running
the process that it could

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have an impact on the
pipeline route,

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so State Department made the
decision that it made.

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The Press: But does
he have the power --

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Mr. Carney: I don't have
--

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I haven't talked to him about it.

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The Press: But does
he have the power?

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I mean, could he call the
State Department and say

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-- Mr. Carney: I'd refer
you to State for how the

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process works.

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It's obviously his
administration, but his

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interest is not in ruling
by fiat, but for letting

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the process be properly
managed and completed.

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The Press: And then can I
get you just to respond --

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obviously there have been
some Democrats who are

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I guess furious
about this delay.

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Senator Begich of Alaska
said, "I am, frankly,

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appalled at the continued
foot-dragging."

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Mary Landrieu said, "This
decision

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is irresponsible, unnecessary,
and unacceptable."

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Heidi Heitkamp, Democrat
of North Dakota,

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said it is absolutely ridiculous
that it has

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been delayed yet again.

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Your response to these
Democratic senators?

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Mr. Carney: My response to
any questions about

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this or statements about this
is that it is a process

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run by the State
Department, as has been

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the case in previous
administrations

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of both parties.

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There was a decision by
the Nebraska Supreme Court

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-- not here in Washington,
but by the Nebraska

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Supreme Court -- that
affects potentially

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the pipeline route, and the
State Department

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that's running the process has
made a decision about

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the impact of that decision
on the process itself.

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So I would refer you to
the State Department.

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The Press: You'd refer
these senators

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to the State Department?

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Mr. Carney: I mean, those
are just the facts, Jon.

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The process has to be
compliant

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with past practice.

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Major.

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The Press: I know you said
earlier that we haven't

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been able to -- this
administration hasn't been

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able to independently
verify all the facts

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of what happened this
weekend,

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but do you know enough to say
that there is nothing that you

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know so far that would justify
Russian forces coming

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in to protect Russians in
Ukraine, as some

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in the areas where this violence
occurred have asked for?

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Mr. Carney: That would
be, as a general matter,

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significant and dangerous
escalation of the

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situation.

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We have made clear that
that kind of action,

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direct military
intervention by Russia

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in Ukraine, in eastern
Ukraine,

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would be a serious escalation of
the situation there

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and would be met with a serious
escalation

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of the cost to Russia.

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So that's our view on that
as a general matter

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and a specific matter.

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We're still assessing the
events of the weekend,

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but there's no question that
the overall situation

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has been greatly worsened by
the intervention

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of armed militants who have
seized buildings,

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stockpiled weapons, blockaded
roads, and done so in the name

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of either joining Russia or
being independent

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and being generally
pro-Russia.

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And our whole position has
always been

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that Ukraine's future has to be
for Ukraine to decide

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and it should not be dictated to
by outside states --

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in this case, Russia.

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The Ukrainian parliament
and government --

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The Press: -- use it as a
pretext to expand Russian

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action inside Ukraine?

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Mr. Carney: Well, I can't
speak to how it might

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be viewed in Moscow, but that
is, of course,

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a very serious concern as a
general matter,

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that pretext of the kind that
we've seen,

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some of them fairly blatant and
transparent, only serve

498
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to further destabilize the
situation in Ukraine.

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The Press: You said a
moment ago when asked what

500
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has Russia done to comply
with the agreement,

501
00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:47,567
you said, well,
they signed it.

502
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Is it possible that it was
signed knowing full

503
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well that the separatists
or the provocateurs

504
00:22:53,433 --> 00:22:55,667
or whatever you want to call
them inside of Ukraine

505
00:22:55,667 --> 00:22:57,300
would say, well, we don't
recognize the Ukrainian

506
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government in the first
place, therefore,

507
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it's not binding, therefore,
signing

508
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it had no practical effect for
the very government

509
00:23:03,233 --> 00:23:05,633
you're hoping will
help enforce it?

510
00:23:05,633 --> 00:23:09,233
Mr. Carney: I mean,
people --

511
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they might have rationales for
why they act, but that's not

512
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-- such action wouldn't be
lawful in Ukraine

513
00:23:19,133 --> 00:23:20,300
under the Ukrainian
constitution,

514
00:23:20,300 --> 00:23:22,734
under Ukrainian law.

515
00:23:22,734 --> 00:23:26,833
Certainly, intervention by
another state

516
00:23:26,834 --> 00:23:29,033
in violation of a sovereign
state's territorial

517
00:23:29,033 --> 00:23:33,899
integrity would be a
transgression of international

518
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law, as we saw in Crimea.

519
00:23:35,967 --> 00:23:37,667
So, I mean, I'm sure
there are all sorts

520
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of unsustainable rationales
for why these kinds

521
00:23:41,333 --> 00:23:43,433
of things are done and some
of them

522
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are just pure propaganda.

523
00:23:45,667 --> 00:23:48,800
But what we've seen out of
the Ukrainian government

524
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and Ukrainian parliament
are steps that have been

525
00:23:51,533 --> 00:23:55,233
designed to demonstrate
restraint and demonstrate

526
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a resolve to work with
those regions

527
00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:07,233
of Ukraine that may want
greater autonomy.

528
00:24:07,233 --> 00:24:09,533
And the Ukrainian
government

529
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has committed itself to a process

530
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of constitutional
reform.

531
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There are national
elections scheduled for

532
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May 25th and the Rada
itself has moved along

533
00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:25,199
in a process that could
result in the passage

534
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,400
of legislation that would
allow for amnesty

535
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,633
to participants in
this activity.

536
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So I think, again, what
you have seen

537
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on the Ukrainian side of this is
a series of steps clearly

538
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designed to deescalate the
situation,

539
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and we have not yet seen that
from the other side.

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The Press: You said a
moment ago,

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in the coming days the cost
might

542
00:24:49,834 --> 00:24:50,367
go up for the Russian government.

543
00:24:50,367 --> 00:24:52,767
Would it be reasonable
to interpret

544
00:24:52,767 --> 00:24:53,734
that as by Friday?

545
00:24:53,734 --> 00:24:56,367
Mr. Carney: I'm not going
to put a timeline on it,

546
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Major.

547
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I will simply say that
we will assess Russia's

548
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actions in keeping with
the commitments

549
00:25:07,967 --> 00:25:09,900
it made in Geneva and then
evaluate those actions,

550
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and in coming days make a
decision about whether

551
00:25:16,467 --> 00:25:21,066
or not further costs will be
imposed because of Russian

552
00:25:21,066 --> 00:25:22,800
actions that
destabilize Ukraine.

553
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,200
The Press: The State
Department said they've

554
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,266
been investigating a
chemical weapons attack

555
00:25:27,266 --> 00:25:29,000
in Syria, a new one.

556
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,767
How serious is this
situation and how does

557
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it affect ongoing

558
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,834
administration policy here?

559
00:25:33,834 --> 00:25:36,333
Mr. Carney: Well, we have
indications

560
00:25:36,333 --> 00:25:39,200
of the use of a toxic industrial
chemical,

561
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,900
probably chlorine, in Syria
this month

562
00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:46,734
in the opposition-dominated
village of Kfar Zeita.

563
00:25:46,734 --> 00:25:48,265
We are examining
allegations

564
00:25:48,266 --> 00:25:50,500
that the government was
responsible.

565
00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:52,934
We take all allegations of
the use of chemicals

566
00:25:52,934 --> 00:25:55,867
in combat very seriously
and we are working

567
00:25:55,867 --> 00:25:56,899
to determine what happened.

568
00:25:56,900 --> 00:25:59,200
We will continue
consulting and sharing

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information with key
partners, including,

570
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of course, at the OPCW.

571
00:26:04,266 --> 00:26:06,800
So this is a matter that's
being investigated

572
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,800
and we're working to
determine what happened.

573
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And once that has been
established,

574
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we can talk about what reaction,
if any, or response,

575
00:26:15,266 --> 00:26:18,000
if any, there would be from the
international community.

576
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,033
The Press: What does it
tell you in the context

577
00:26:19,033 --> 00:26:21,332
of what the administration
has touted

578
00:26:21,333 --> 00:26:24,900
has been general success of
getting the Syrians to dismantle

579
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-- Mr. Carney: Indications of
use -- we are still establishing

580
00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:30,199
what happened
and who was responsible.

581
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,467
We're examining
allegations

582
00:26:31,467 --> 00:26:33,467
that the regime was responsible.

583
00:26:33,467 --> 00:26:39,500
We continue the process
with our partners

584
00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:44,233
that Syria committed to -- the
Assad regime as well

585
00:26:44,233 --> 00:26:47,767
as Russia committed to that
has led now to more

586
00:26:47,767 --> 00:26:51,767
than 65 percent of the Syrian
regime's stockpiles

587
00:26:51,767 --> 00:26:54,500
of chemical weapons being
removed for destruction,

588
00:26:54,500 --> 00:26:56,200
and that process
continues.

589
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,600
The Press: Jay, a couple
of minutes ago you said

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in the coming days you can
expect we'll move forward

591
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,900
to impose higher costs
on the Russian economy.

592
00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:05,600
And then just to Major,
you said we're going

593
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,332
to evaluate whether or not --
Mr. Carney: Yes, sorry,

594
00:27:08,333 --> 00:27:10,533
the second -- I don't have
a transcript

595
00:27:10,533 --> 00:27:11,533
of what I said.

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00:27:11,533 --> 00:27:14,332
We will make a decision
about --

597
00:27:14,333 --> 00:27:16,266
The Press: Whether or not you're
going to impose the costs?

598
00:27:16,266 --> 00:27:17,133
Mr. Carney: Again,
depending

599
00:27:17,133 --> 00:27:17,934
on Russia's actions.

600
00:27:17,934 --> 00:27:18,466
The Press: I know, but

601
00:27:18,467 --> 00:27:20,100
-- okay, so you haven't decided.

602
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:23,132
Mr. Carney: I think I was
pretty clear about that.

603
00:27:23,133 --> 00:27:25,066
The Press: It sounded
pretty definitive

604
00:27:25,066 --> 00:27:25,633
before that you were going to
impose higher costs.

605
00:27:25,633 --> 00:27:26,433
Now you haven't decided
yet whether

606
00:27:26,433 --> 00:27:27,667
you're going to?

607
00:27:27,667 --> 00:27:30,100
Mr. Carney: We have an
agreement that

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was signed by Russia, that
committed Russia to take steps

609
00:27:33,467 --> 00:27:37,133
to help stabilize the
situation in Ukraine,

610
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and that includes using its
influence

611
00:27:40,033 --> 00:27:44,199
on these armed militias --
militants, rather, to disarm and

612
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,500
to return buildings that
they've occupied

613
00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:48,433
back to the authorities
in Ukraine.

614
00:27:48,433 --> 00:27:54,000
So we are evaluating
the application --

615
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,533
or implementation of the
commitments

616
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made in Geneva, and we'll take
steps in coming days

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00:28:04,867 --> 00:28:09,033
as dictated by compliance
with those agreements.

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00:28:09,033 --> 00:28:10,033
The Press: Okay.

619
00:28:10,033 --> 00:28:12,399
So it sounds like higher
costs or further

620
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,367
sanctions are ready to go if you
decide

621
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the Russians haven't complied.

622
00:28:15,367 --> 00:28:16,367
Is that what
you're saying?

623
00:28:16,367 --> 00:28:18,700
Mr. Carney: If progress is
not made in coming days,

624
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we will impose
further costs.

625
00:28:20,867 --> 00:28:23,600
The Press: And are these
further costs

626
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,833
by economic sector or are they
more individuals?

627
00:28:24,834 --> 00:28:28,266
Or could you describe
what they would be?

628
00:28:28,266 --> 00:28:30,500
Mr. Carney: Well, I'm not
going to foreshadow --

629
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as I think Ambassador Rice
said on Friday,

630
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I'm not going to foreshadow
specific sanctions

631
00:28:35,433 --> 00:28:37,567
that are under consideration,
or individuals

632
00:28:37,567 --> 00:28:40,100
or entities that might be under
consideration.

633
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:42,500
We have said all along
that the three executive

634
00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:44,700
orders that the President
signed give him

635
00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:48,166
and the administration broad
flexibility

636
00:28:48,166 --> 00:28:51,066
in the imposition of sanctions
and the ability

637
00:28:51,066 --> 00:28:57,633
to escalate costs in response
to escalation by Russia

638
00:28:57,633 --> 00:28:59,166
or other individuals and
entities

639
00:28:59,166 --> 00:29:01,633
that violate Ukraine's sovereignty

640
00:29:01,633 --> 00:29:02,867
and territorial
integrity.

641
00:29:02,867 --> 00:29:07,100
So I think the way to
look at this is that

642
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:08,533
the response by the United
States and

643
00:29:08,533 --> 00:29:13,199
our partners will depend upon
the degree of escalation

644
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,500
by those violating Ukraine's
sovereignty

645
00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:17,500
and territorial integrity.

646
00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:21,700
So if there is no progress
made

647
00:29:21,700 --> 00:29:25,967
on the commitments reached in
Geneva in coming days,

648
00:29:25,967 --> 00:29:27,500
we will impose further costs.

649
00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:28,500
The Press: Okay.

650
00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:31,166
But one of the -- part of
the things to factor

651
00:29:31,166 --> 00:29:33,466
is how willing Europe, in
particular,

652
00:29:33,467 --> 00:29:35,633
even more than the U.S., is
willing to pay a price of its

653
00:29:35,633 --> 00:29:37,867
own, because these sanctions
are not without

654
00:29:37,867 --> 00:29:39,667
some kind of a blowback.

655
00:29:39,667 --> 00:29:43,899
How confident are you
that European allies

656
00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:48,600
are willing to shoulder the
burden of the effect

657
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,000
of further sanctions?

658
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:51,834
Mr. Carney: I think what
you've seen, Mara,

659
00:29:51,834 --> 00:29:55,633
is a great deal of consensus
and unanimity

660
00:29:55,633 --> 00:30:00,900
among European nations and the
United States and others

661
00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:04,700
in how we view the action
that Russia has taken

662
00:30:04,700 --> 00:30:08,133
in Ukraine, in condemning it
and in calling

663
00:30:08,133 --> 00:30:14,533
for steps to deescalate the
situation there,

664
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and also to impose cost, as as
the EU and separate European

665
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,300
nations have done, as
has the United States.

666
00:30:22,467 --> 00:30:25,967
Leaders of various
partners in Europe

667
00:30:25,967 --> 00:30:27,734
have spoken to the very
question that

668
00:30:27,734 --> 00:30:32,567
you've asked and made clear that
there have to be costs

669
00:30:32,567 --> 00:30:35,667
that will be imposed on Russia
should Russia

670
00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:37,265
choose to escalate.

671
00:30:37,266 --> 00:30:38,867
And we will work in
concert with our

672
00:30:38,867 --> 00:30:42,233
European partners and allies and
our G7 partners

673
00:30:42,233 --> 00:30:47,332
to do just that, as
appropriate, depending on the

674
00:30:47,333 --> 00:30:48,567
degree to which progress is made

675
00:30:48,567 --> 00:30:51,133
or not made in the coming days.

676
00:30:51,133 --> 00:30:53,767
Wendell.

677
00:30:53,767 --> 00:30:58,834
The Press: The decision to
offer expanded clemency

678
00:30:58,834 --> 00:31:02,734
criteria for non-violent
drug users, was this

679
00:31:02,734 --> 00:31:05,934
discussed between Justice
and the White House?

680
00:31:05,934 --> 00:31:10,133
Mr. Carney: Wendell, the
President wants

681
00:31:10,133 --> 00:31:11,867
to make sure that everyone has
a fair shot under

682
00:31:11,867 --> 00:31:13,000
the clemency system.

683
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,367
He has asked the
Department of Justice

684
00:31:14,367 --> 00:31:17,265
to set up a process aimed at
ensuring that anyone

685
00:31:17,266 --> 00:31:19,266
who has a good case for
commutation has their

686
00:31:19,266 --> 00:31:22,133
application seen and
evaluated thoroughly.

687
00:31:22,133 --> 00:31:24,500
In terms of how many
deserving applications

688
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:26,400
are out there, I couldn't
begin to speculate,

689
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,266
but there is a process in
place that ensures --

690
00:31:28,266 --> 00:31:30,867
or that hopefully will ensure
that everyone

691
00:31:30,867 --> 00:31:33,899
has a fair shot under the system.

692
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:35,934
The President continues to
believe that a resolution

693
00:31:35,934 --> 00:31:38,667
is needed for the many
offenders who are serving

694
00:31:38,667 --> 00:31:42,433
unfairly long sentences
under outdated guidelines,

695
00:31:42,433 --> 00:31:44,066
and that the clemency
process

696
00:31:44,066 --> 00:31:46,900
is not an appropriate vehicle to
address that injustice

697
00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:48,533
in a comprehensive way.

698
00:31:48,533 --> 00:31:50,600
That should be done
through bipartisan

699
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,734
legislation like the
measures currently

700
00:31:53,734 --> 00:31:55,000
working their way through
Congress.

701
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,500
And as you know, this is
an issue on which

702
00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:04,633
there is a bipartisan coalition
that believes action

703
00:32:04,633 --> 00:32:05,967
needs to be taken and there are
measures

704
00:32:05,967 --> 00:32:07,200
in Congress that reflect that.

705
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,166
The Press: The use of
chemical weapons

706
00:32:10,166 --> 00:32:13,767
apparent, possible use of
chemical weapons in Syria --

707
00:32:13,767 --> 00:32:21,633
is this an indication that
the President

708
00:32:21,633 --> 00:32:27,834
has been unable, basically, to
get the Assad regime

709
00:32:27,834 --> 00:32:31,433
to keep from going over this
red line he drew?

710
00:32:31,433 --> 00:32:33,333
Mr. Carney: Again,
Wendell, we have

711
00:32:33,333 --> 00:32:36,700
indications of the use
of a toxic

712
00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:39,467
industrial chemical, probably
chlorine,

713
00:32:39,467 --> 00:32:41,200
in Syria this month

714
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,467
in an opposition-dominated village.

715
00:32:43,467 --> 00:32:45,000
We're examining
allegations that

716
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,800
the government was responsible
and we're working

717
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,200
to determine what
exactly happened.

718
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,900
As you know, the United
States

719
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:57,166
and other nations are
participants

720
00:32:57,166 --> 00:33:00,567
in an agreement that commits the Assad

721
00:33:00,567 --> 00:33:05,200
regime to relinquishing its
stockpiles of chemical

722
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,166
weapons and relinquishing them for destruction.

723
00:33:09,166 --> 00:33:11,767
And that process
continues,

724
00:33:11,767 --> 00:33:16,000
and we're now, I believe, at
roughly 65, 67 percent of those

725
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,767
weapons being turned
over for destruction.

726
00:33:18,767 --> 00:33:23,033
But this specific incident
is obviously, as a general

727
00:33:23,033 --> 00:33:26,100
matter, something that is
of concern and that's

728
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:29,065
why we're investigating what
happened and allegations

729
00:33:29,066 --> 00:33:30,033
of who is responsible.

730
00:33:30,033 --> 00:33:34,300
The Press: And the action
in Yemen --

731
00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:36,265
what does this say to the
President's stated desire

732
00:33:36,266 --> 00:33:38,000
to actually reduce the use of drones?

733
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,867
And can we presume that
this group pose

734
00:33:43,867 --> 00:33:48,466
a new threat to the U.S.

735
00:33:48,467 --> 00:33:49,800
and its allies?

736
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,867
Mr. Carney: Well, let me
answer that

737
00:33:53,867 --> 00:33:54,867
in a couple of ways.

738
00:33:54,867 --> 00:33:56,399
First of all, I can't
speak to specific

739
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,367
operations, as you know.

740
00:33:58,367 --> 00:34:00,367
But we have a strong
collaborative relationship

741
00:34:00,367 --> 00:34:02,265
with the Yemeni government
and work together

742
00:34:02,266 --> 00:34:04,433
on various initiatives to
counter the shared

743
00:34:04,433 --> 00:34:07,767
threat we face from AQAP.

744
00:34:07,767 --> 00:34:10,066
We support the Yemeni
government's efforts

745
00:34:10,065 --> 00:34:13,000
to tackle terrorism within
their own borders;

746
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,734
and beyond that, for details
of these reported

747
00:34:15,734 --> 00:34:18,000
incidents, I would
refer you

748
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to the Yemeni government.

749
00:34:19,867 --> 00:34:22,200
Again, without speaking
about specific operations,

750
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:24,100
I can tell you that in
May 2013,

751
00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:26,132
President Obama spoke at length
about the policy

752
00:34:26,132 --> 00:34:29,632
and legal rationale for how the
United States takes

753
00:34:29,632 --> 00:34:34,232
direct action against al Qaeda
and its associated forces

754
00:34:34,233 --> 00:34:36,567
outside of areas of active
hostilities,

755
00:34:36,567 --> 00:34:38,300
including with drone strikes.

756
00:34:38,300 --> 00:34:40,100
And as the President
made clear,

757
00:34:40,100 --> 00:34:42,065
we take extraordinary care
to make sure that

758
00:34:42,065 --> 00:34:44,065
our counterterrorism actions
are in accordance

759
00:34:44,065 --> 00:34:46,399
with all applicable domestic and
international laws,

760
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,000
and that they are
consistent

761
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,000
with U.S. values and policy.

762
00:34:51,433 --> 00:34:52,433
Mr. Knoller.

763
00:34:52,433 --> 00:34:54,333
The Press: Jay, is there
something that

764
00:34:54,333 --> 00:34:58,400
prompted President Obama to
think that the applications

765
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,934
for commutation of sentence
were

766
00:34:59,934 --> 00:35:02,767
not getting due consideration?

767
00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:05,933
Mr. Carney: Well, these
are issues that

768
00:35:05,934 --> 00:35:07,767
the President and his
administration

769
00:35:07,767 --> 00:35:09,834
have been working on for
a long time.

770
00:35:09,834 --> 00:35:11,734
In 2010, Mark, as you
know, the President

771
00:35:11,734 --> 00:35:15,100
pushed for and signed the Fair
Sentencing Act

772
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:18,734
to reduce disparities that
punished crack cocaine offenses

773
00:35:18,734 --> 00:35:21,299
far more harshly than powder
cocaine offenses.

774
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:23,000
And since taking office,
the administration

775
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,133
has supported criminal justice
reform

776
00:35:25,133 --> 00:35:26,700
at the state and local level.

777
00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:28,500
Last summer, the Attorney
General announced

778
00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:31,767
a series of changes to enforce
our drug laws more fairly,

779
00:35:31,767 --> 00:35:33,734
effectively, and
efficiently.

780
00:35:33,734 --> 00:35:36,333
And last December,
President Obama commuted

781
00:35:36,333 --> 00:35:38,166
the sentences of eight
individuals

782
00:35:38,166 --> 00:35:40,967
who are serving unduly harsh
sentences issued

783
00:35:40,967 --> 00:35:44,033
under an outdated
sentencing regime.

784
00:35:44,033 --> 00:35:46,633
So that's basically a
chronology that answers

785
00:35:46,633 --> 00:35:48,133
your question -- that this
is a process

786
00:35:48,133 --> 00:35:50,165
that's been in place and of
interest to the administration

787
00:35:50,166 --> 00:35:53,834
and the President since the
beginning,

788
00:35:53,834 --> 00:35:57,567
and reflected in the signing of
the law in 2010 and the actions

789
00:35:57,567 --> 00:35:58,567
that he has taken since.

790
00:35:58,567 --> 00:36:02,500
So making sure that
everyone has a fair shot

791
00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:07,433
under the clemency system
is what's behind

792
00:36:07,433 --> 00:36:09,567
his request to the Justice
Department that

793
00:36:09,567 --> 00:36:12,533
they set up a process aimed at
making sure that anyone

794
00:36:12,533 --> 00:36:14,567
who has a good case
gets consideration.

795
00:36:14,567 --> 00:36:17,934
The Press: Is he satisfied
with the recommendations

796
00:36:17,934 --> 00:36:20,900
he gets from the pardon
attorney on both

797
00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:22,433
commutation and pardons?

798
00:36:22,433 --> 00:36:24,900
Mr. Carney: I haven't had
that discussion with him,

799
00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:29,200
but the process works in
the way that

800
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,265
it has and I've certainly not
heard a suggestion

801
00:36:33,266 --> 00:36:35,266
that the process doesn't
work appropriately.

802
00:36:35,266 --> 00:36:36,266
Roger.

803
00:36:36,266 --> 00:36:38,600
The Press: Thank you.

804
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,200
Mr. Biden is
over in Ukraine.

805
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,133
He's going to be offering
a package

806
00:36:44,133 --> 00:36:45,332
of technical assistance.

807
00:36:45,333 --> 00:36:48,934
Can you describe a little
bit what that's about,

808
00:36:48,934 --> 00:36:52,133
what that means, and would
it include people

809
00:36:52,133 --> 00:36:53,734
from the Defense Department?

810
00:36:53,734 --> 00:36:57,734
Mr. Carney: Roger, what I
can tell you is that

811
00:36:57,734 --> 00:37:01,000
the Vice President is in
Ukraine to demonstrate

812
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,467
our solidarity with the
Ukrainian people

813
00:37:03,467 --> 00:37:05,200
and to discuss how the U.S.

814
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,433
can support the
international

815
00:37:06,433 --> 00:37:09,500
community's efforts to stabilize
and strengthen Ukraine's

816
00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:11,800
economy and assist Ukraine
in moving forward

817
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,166
on constitutional reform,
decentralization,

818
00:37:15,166 --> 00:37:17,166
anticorruption efforts,
and free and

819
00:37:17,166 --> 00:37:20,400
fair Presidential
elections on May 25th.

820
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,400
He'll also be consulting
on the latest developments

821
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,133
in eastern Ukraine and on
steps to enhance

822
00:37:25,133 --> 00:37:28,600
Ukraine's short- and long-term
energy security.

823
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,500
I don't have anything to
announce ahead of the

824
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:36,633
Vice President in terms of
specific assistance

825
00:37:36,633 --> 00:37:39,700
that we'll be seeking to
provide Ukraine.

826
00:37:39,700 --> 00:37:41,667
As you know, we have taken
steps already

827
00:37:41,667 --> 00:37:47,567
to assist Ukraine through a
package of loan guarantees

828
00:37:47,567 --> 00:37:49,133
passed by
Congress.

829
00:37:49,133 --> 00:37:51,433
We're working very closely
with our partners

830
00:37:51,433 --> 00:37:55,367
on the IMF to ensure that
assistance is provided

831
00:37:55,367 --> 00:37:58,133
to Ukraine as they seek to
stabilize their economy

832
00:37:58,133 --> 00:38:00,533
in this very difficult time.

833
00:38:00,533 --> 00:38:02,900
And that kind of
coordination

834
00:38:02,900 --> 00:38:03,900
will continue.

835
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:07,233
The Press: Can you say how
many people it might be?

836
00:38:07,233 --> 00:38:09,834
Mr. Carney: No, again, I
think I would wait

837
00:38:09,834 --> 00:38:12,899
for the Vice President to speak
about his meetings

838
00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:16,767
and any assistance he
might be offering.

839
00:38:16,767 --> 00:38:17,767
Jon-Christopher.

840
00:38:17,767 --> 00:38:20,232
The Press: Does the Vice
President have any special

841
00:38:20,233 --> 00:38:23,500
message to deliver to the
people from Belarus

842
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:27,266
or Moldova as well as the
Baltic countries

843
00:38:27,266 --> 00:38:29,166
while he is there?

844
00:38:29,166 --> 00:38:31,300
Mr. Carney: Well, he's
there, principally,

845
00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:33,133
Jon-Christopher, to
demonstrate

846
00:38:33,133 --> 00:38:39,000
the United States' support for
Ukraine in all the ways

847
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,467
that I just described.

848
00:38:41,467 --> 00:38:46,467
We have also made clear
because of the events

849
00:38:46,467 --> 00:38:50,767
in Ukraine that we strongly
support the sovereignty

850
00:38:50,767 --> 00:38:53,000
and territorial integrity
of independent nations.

851
00:38:55,967 --> 00:38:58,900
In addition to that, we
have taken steps

852
00:38:58,900 --> 00:39:02,400
with our NATO partners to
reassure NATO allies,

853
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,433
like Lithuania, Estonia and
Latvia,

854
00:39:05,433 --> 00:39:08,467
who are NATO allies.

855
00:39:08,467 --> 00:39:13,333
And I'm sure you're aware
of the actions that

856
00:39:13,333 --> 00:39:15,734
we have taken as an alliance
to demonstrate

857
00:39:15,734 --> 00:39:19,967
that reassurance both in
Lithuania,

858
00:39:19,967 --> 00:39:23,600
Latvia and Estonia, as we
well as in Poland.

859
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,734
And that process
continues.

860
00:39:25,734 --> 00:39:30,633
So I think that there are
slightly different

861
00:39:30,633 --> 00:39:32,466
answers to the questions
that you asked.

862
00:39:32,467 --> 00:39:33,500
But as a general
principle,

863
00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:36,900
I think that this whole
situation in

864
00:39:36,900 --> 00:39:44,266
Ukraine has demonstrated the
world's commitment to sovereign

865
00:39:44,266 --> 00:39:49,567
nations' territorial integrity,
and that there are costs

866
00:39:49,567 --> 00:39:53,533
that will be imposed on
nations that violate

867
00:39:53,533 --> 00:39:56,333
the territorial integrity of
another nation,

868
00:39:56,333 --> 00:39:58,233
another sovereign nation.

869
00:39:58,233 --> 00:40:01,734
The Press: Jay, South
Korea's media

870
00:40:01,734 --> 00:40:04,133
are counting reports of
increased activity

871
00:40:04,133 --> 00:40:06,700
at the North's nuclear test site.

872
00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:07,633
Have we seen that?

873
00:40:07,633 --> 00:40:08,966
Is there a concern here
perhaps

874
00:40:08,967 --> 00:40:11,934
that North Korea is maybe doing
something -- planning something

875
00:40:11,934 --> 00:40:13,033
and maybe even while the
President

876
00:40:13,033 --> 00:40:14,467
is in the South later this week?

877
00:40:14,467 --> 00:40:16,300
Mr. Carney: I don't have
anything on those reports.

878
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:22,300
Obviously, we monitor that
kind of activity very

879
00:40:22,300 --> 00:40:25,767
closely, and we note a
pattern of provocative

880
00:40:25,767 --> 00:40:32,767
actions from the regime
in the DPRK that has been

881
00:40:32,767 --> 00:40:35,799
consistent unfortunately
for many years.

882
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,834
But I don't have anything
specific on those reports.

883
00:40:38,834 --> 00:40:41,000
We obviously look forward
to -- the President does

884
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,800
-- his visit to Seoul,
where the alliance that we

885
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:49,700
share will be
reaffirmed once again.

886
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:51,567
And the importance of
that relationship will be

887
00:40:51,567 --> 00:40:54,900
reaffirmed while the
President is there.

888
00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:58,567
The Press: Over the
weekend, a very senior

889
00:40:58,567 --> 00:41:02,300
Pakistani journalist was
shot at while he was

890
00:41:02,300 --> 00:41:04,533
coming from the airport.

891
00:41:04,533 --> 00:41:07,400
Of late, there have been
increasing attacks

892
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,200
on journalists inside
of Pakistan.

893
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,834
Is the President worried
or concerned about

894
00:41:12,834 --> 00:41:14,667
increasing attacks on
journalists

895
00:41:14,667 --> 00:41:16,033
inside the country?

896
00:41:16,033 --> 00:41:19,232
Mr. Carney: Well, we
condemn Saturday's vicious

897
00:41:19,233 --> 00:41:22,066
attack in Karachi on
television journalist,

898
00:41:22,066 --> 00:41:24,567
Hamid Mir -- the latest
in a series of worrisome

899
00:41:24,567 --> 00:41:27,633
attacks on journalists
in Pakistan.

900
00:41:27,633 --> 00:41:29,933
Freedom of the press,
including ensuring that

901
00:41:29,934 --> 00:41:32,033
journalists can safely
carry out their vital

902
00:41:32,033 --> 00:41:35,033
mission, is of paramount
importance to freedom

903
00:41:35,033 --> 00:41:37,165
of expression and to the
healthy functioning

904
00:41:37,166 --> 00:41:38,834
of any democracy.

905
00:41:38,834 --> 00:41:42,000
We wish Hamid Mir a speedy
recovery, and we urge

906
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,633
the government of Pakistan
to bring all those

907
00:41:44,633 --> 00:41:46,767
responsible for these
attacks to justice.

908
00:41:46,767 --> 00:41:51,633
The Press: Jay, ever since
the Syrian crisis started,

909
00:41:51,633 --> 00:41:54,000
President Obama has called
on President Assad to step

910
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,333
down; very often he said
he lost his legitimacy.

911
00:41:57,333 --> 00:41:58,900
He obviously
hasn't done that.

912
00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:00,767
And on top of that, they
announced elections

913
00:42:00,767 --> 00:42:01,734
on June 3rd.

914
00:42:01,734 --> 00:42:03,900
Is he making a mockery of
the President's statement?

915
00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:05,133
Mr. Carney: No, he's
making a mockery

916
00:42:05,133 --> 00:42:09,799
of his own pretensions to being

917
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,767
a democratically elected leader.

918
00:42:11,767 --> 00:42:14,033
A Presidential referendum,
which is what this would

919
00:42:14,033 --> 00:42:17,600
be, is a parody of
democracy and would have

920
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,834
no credibility or
legitimacy within Syria

921
00:42:20,834 --> 00:42:22,834
or outside of Syria.

922
00:42:24,133 --> 00:42:26,332
The Press: And does
this show any chance

923
00:42:26,333 --> 00:42:27,767
of reconciliation in terms of
any peace talks

924
00:42:27,767 --> 00:42:28,299
with the opposition?

925
00:42:28,300 --> 00:42:29,633
Mr. Carney: I'm sorry,
would this --

926
00:42:29,633 --> 00:42:29,834
The Press: Yes, would this
announcement

927
00:42:29,834 --> 00:42:31,799
of elections -- because he seems
adamant that --

928
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:32,433
Mr. Carney: This
announcement

929
00:42:32,433 --> 00:42:36,633
that has no credibility and
would be a parody of democracy?

930
00:42:36,633 --> 00:42:40,899
I don't think that's the
way for the process

931
00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:41,900
to move forward.

932
00:42:41,900 --> 00:42:44,066
The Press: No, but
my point is the U.N.

933
00:42:44,066 --> 00:42:46,433
says that the only way to
end the Syrian

934
00:42:46,433 --> 00:42:49,533
crisis is through a political
transition.

935
00:42:49,533 --> 00:42:52,100
So now that you don't have
this opportunity

936
00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:55,333
by him announcing the election,
so what's the outcome

937
00:42:55,333 --> 00:42:56,367
for the Syrian crisis?

938
00:42:56,367 --> 00:42:57,734
Mr. Carney: Well, the
process that can lead to

939
00:42:57,734 --> 00:42:59,866
the political transition
has to be a negotiated

940
00:42:59,867 --> 00:43:07,333
process and resolution
through or with the

941
00:43:07,333 --> 00:43:14,900
opposition, and it would
not include a referendum

942
00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:19,533
of the nature that has
been announced that bears

943
00:43:19,533 --> 00:43:21,533
no hallmarks to true
democracy,

944
00:43:21,533 --> 00:43:23,633
but is a sham, really.

945
00:43:23,633 --> 00:43:27,734
So the need for

946
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:33,033
a political resolution remains.

947
00:43:33,033 --> 00:43:40,866
It's the only way that the
Syrian people can achieve

948
00:43:40,867 --> 00:43:46,800
a future where they have
more freedom and are

949
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,800
subjected to less tyranny.

950
00:43:50,734 --> 00:43:52,333
And we continue to support
the opposition;

951
00:43:52,333 --> 00:43:55,433
we continue to support the
Syrian people through

952
00:43:55,433 --> 00:43:58,367
the substantial humanitarian
aid that we provide;

953
00:43:58,367 --> 00:44:02,767
and we continue to push
for a process whereby

954
00:44:02,767 --> 00:44:05,366
a negotiated settlement
that leads to a political

955
00:44:05,367 --> 00:44:06,867
transition can be reached.

956
00:44:06,867 --> 00:44:12,000
The Press: Before the
break, Speaker Boehner was

957
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,700
asked about the
unemployment extension

958
00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:17,066
that passed the Senate and
said that it's up to the

959
00:44:17,066 --> 00:44:19,332
White House essentially
to come up with a new

960
00:44:19,333 --> 00:44:22,066
proposal on jobs before
he'll consider

961
00:44:22,066 --> 00:44:23,466
an unemployment extension.

962
00:44:23,467 --> 00:44:25,867
He said he told the
President that in December

963
00:44:25,867 --> 00:44:29,200
and he's been waiting and
hasn't heard a real jobs

964
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,165
proposal since then.

965
00:44:30,166 --> 00:44:33,967
What's the outcome here
for those 2 million people

966
00:44:33,967 --> 00:44:35,266
who aren't getting
their checks?

967
00:44:35,266 --> 00:44:41,600
Mr. Carney: Well, I think
you've noted that more

968
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,700
Republicans have made
clear their support

969
00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:48,165
for extension of vital
unemployment insurance

970
00:44:48,166 --> 00:44:51,567
emergency benefits since
the last time we discussed

971
00:44:51,567 --> 00:44:52,800
this in this room.

972
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,066
And we continue to press
Congress to take action to

973
00:44:56,066 --> 00:44:58,734
restore those benefits.

974
00:44:58,734 --> 00:45:05,133
I don't have the latest
on how that effort is

975
00:45:05,133 --> 00:45:07,899
progressing on Capitol
Hill, but our position

976
00:45:07,900 --> 00:45:11,000
remains very clear, which
is that these are benefits

977
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,433
that should be extended.

978
00:45:14,433 --> 00:45:20,633
Extending them would
be, of course, hugely

979
00:45:20,633 --> 00:45:24,767
impactful to the families
who receive them directly,

980
00:45:24,767 --> 00:45:27,567
but also of great
benefit to the economy.

981
00:45:27,567 --> 00:45:28,867
And Congress ought
to take action.

982
00:45:28,867 --> 00:45:30,433
The Press: Is the White
House willing to consider

983
00:45:30,433 --> 00:45:33,100
offering some kind of a
deal with Speaker Boehner

984
00:45:33,100 --> 00:45:35,165
on some of his priorities
for those --

985
00:45:35,166 --> 00:45:36,800
Mr. Carney: I just don't have an update.

986
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,166
What we've seen in the
past in these kinds

987
00:45:38,166 --> 00:45:40,667
of situations generally
are an attempt to throw

988
00:45:40,667 --> 00:45:42,700
spaghetti against the wall
on sort of ideological

989
00:45:42,700 --> 00:45:44,466
things that have nothing
to do with making sure

990
00:45:44,467 --> 00:45:47,633
that these benefits get to
the people who need them.

991
00:45:47,633 --> 00:45:49,633
Thanks very
much, everybody.