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Mr. Carney:
Good afternoon,
ladies and gentlemen.

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Thank you for being here.

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Before I take your questions
I have a readout of the

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President's video
teleconference with

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President Sarkozy of France.

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Continuing their close
consultations on global

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issues of common concern, the President
and French President Sarkozy

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held a video teleconference
today to discuss Syria,

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Iran and stability
in the oil markets.

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On Syria, the President and
President Sarkozy condemned

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the violence perpetrated by the
regime against its own people,

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and noted that the regime had
yet to fully implement the

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agreement negotiated
with Kofi Annan pursuant

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to the Annan plan.

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The two leaders called for the
regime to fully implement the

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Annan plan, noting that the
international community would

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judge the regime by its
actions and not its words.

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On Iran, both leaders expressed
hope that Iran would take

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advantage of the upcoming
P5-plus-1 talks to address

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the international community's
concerns about the Iranian

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nuclear program.

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The President and President
Sarkozy agreed to continue

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increasing the pressure on the
Iranian regime through sanctions

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and other measures if
Tehran remains unresponsive.

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Finally, the President and
President Sarkozy agreed to

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continue their consultations
about the tightness in global

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oil markets, in line with
previous conversations.

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With that, I will
take your questions.

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The Press:
On the Ann Romney/Hilary Rosen
controversy from yesterday,

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what is the White House view of
Hilary Rosen's remark that Ann

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Romney hadn't worked
a day in her life?

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Is the President aware of it?

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Has he had any personal
observations about it?

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Secondly, the Romney campaign
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tight with you guys and
has been in her 35 times

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for consultations.

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Is that correct?

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And does 35 visits by any
Democratic consultant confer any

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particular status on her as far
as being up close or in any kind

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of advisory role
at the White House?

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Mr. Carney:
Let me say a couple things.

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First of all, I have not spoken
with the President about this so

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I don't have anything to
report to you on that.

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Secondly, I think
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Democrats and Republicans --
that raising children is an

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extremely difficult job and that
is true for all mothers as well

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as fathers.

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But we should also focus
on where we disagree.

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It is not coincidental that the
very first piece of legislation

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that this President signed when
he entered office was the Lilly

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Ledbetter Free Pay Act.

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It had passed Congress and the
President signed it into law.

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Why did it take President
Obama entering office,

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being sworn into office, to have
the Fair Pay Act become law?

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Because Republicans
overwhelmingly opposed it,

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and presumably still do.

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When the President took office,
we were shedding roughly 750,000

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jobs a month, and men and
women across the nation were

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feeling the pain of the
worst recession since the

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Great Depression.

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We have seen 25 straight months
of private sector growth,

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resulting in 4.1 million jobs.

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And when it comes to
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there has been a
particular focus.

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As you know, as recently as last
week there was a forum here to

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discuss exactly what we need to
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women are able to get to work
with good-paying jobs that can

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help their families and
help them make ends meet.

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I would note, again, that one
of the principal elements of

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the American Jobs Act
was a provision --

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and this is the President's
American Jobs Act --

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was a provision to provide
assistance to states to rehire

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400,000 teachers.

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As you know, in this period of
25 straight months of private

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sector job growth, there has
also been reductions in jobs in

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states and localities because
of pressures on the fiscal --

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on the budgets of
states and localities.

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This assistance would
have ensured that 400,000

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teachers would have
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Teachers, as you know
-- women are represented

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disproportionately
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across the country.

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Republicans overwhelmingly
opposed that provision.

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In the Ryan budget -- the
Ryan/Republican budget,

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400,000 students would
lose Pell grants in 2013,

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and another 465,000 students
would lose Pell grants in 2014.

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In addition, 9 million students
would experience cuts in their

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grants starting in 2013, which
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$1,150 per student.

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Roughly speaking, you can divide
all those numbers by half in

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terms of the impact that those
cuts would have on women.

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The Head Start program -- in
2013, a $430 million cut to

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the Head Start program would
result in 60,000 low-income

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women -- children --
low-income children, rather,

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losing access to early
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After that, a $1.5 billion cut
to the Head Start program would

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result in 200,000 low-income
children losing access to

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early education.

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As some of you know, one of
the cuts that would occur,

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by our analysis, if the
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were enacted into law,
would be to the Women,

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Infants and Children program,
a program that has had

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longstanding bipartisan support.

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The Republican House budget
resolution cuts $350 million

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from the Special Supplemental
Nutrition Assistance Program for

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Women, Infants and Children.

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Cuts of this magnitude would
require kicking about 700,000

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pregnant or post-partum
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off of WIC and denying
another 100,000 from

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receiving critical
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healthy child development.

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I could go on, and
I will if I'm asked.

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The Press:
The 35 visits?

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Mr. Carney:
First of all, I haven't
seen the records.

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I don't know that
-- Hilary Rosen,

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I know three, personally,
women named Hilary Rosen.

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So I'm not sure that those
represent the person we're

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talking about necessarily.

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So I really can't comment on the
number of visits since I'm not

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sure that's accurate.

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The Press:
Well, how about the
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Hilary Rosen's --

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Mr. Carney:
I don't know how many
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She's not a -- she is a
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she's a CNN contributor,
as far as I know.

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And I don't know how to assess
her overall relationship with

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people here in the White House.

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But I do not -- I have not
seen her here very frequently.

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The Press:
Do you expect that
relationship to continue

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on whatever level it is?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, again, I don't know
what the relationship is.

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Let's focus on what
the issue here is.

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This is a -- when it comes
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has done for women, it begins
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Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act.

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It continues with the emphasis
on the need to put teachers back

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in the classroom.

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It continues with a
variety of programs,

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including our opposition to
the Ryan/Republican budget

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and its dramatic cuts.

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Medicare, for example --
I'm sure many of you know

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that Medicare benefits go
disproportionately to women.

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Ending Medicare as we know it,
forcing seniors to bear the

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brunt of the cost of
tax cuts to the wealthy,

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would harm women
disproportionately.

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These are real, fundamental
policy decisions.

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And I think that when people
look at those contrasts and

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those disagreements, it will
be quite clear what President

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Obama's position is and
what his policies are.

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Jeff.

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The Press:
Jay, you've mentioned
that the President and

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President Sarkozy discussed
tightness in the oil markets.

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Did they discuss the possibility
of releasing oil reserves?

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Mr. Carney:
The President and President
Sarkozy did discuss tightness

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in the global oil
markets and agreed

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to continue their consultations.

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This conversation was in line
with previous conversations.

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I have no new announcements
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that issue.

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The Press:
French diplomats, though, have
said before that that particular

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piece of the oil market
discussion was on the table.

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Can you say anything about that?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I think as
I've said before,

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it should not be a surprise that
in our conversations at various

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levels, including
President to President,

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that we talk about some of the
pressing global issues of the

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day, and certainly tightness in
the global oil markets is one of

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the issues that you would
expect to be on the table

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and to be discussed.

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But again, this was in line
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and I have no announcements
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The Press:
On Syria, Kofi Annan is
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team to go to Syria.

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Does the U.S. support that
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part in something like that?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, let's focus on
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The fact of the matter is Kofi
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there is something of a
tentative cease-fire in place,

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the regime has clearly fallen
short of its obligations under

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the Annan plan -- obligations
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And unfortunately, that is
another indication of why it is

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so important when you're dealing
with the Assad regime to judge

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it by its actions and not
its promises, not its words.

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We will continue to consult with
our international partners and

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allies about next steps as we
monitor the situation in Syria.

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I don't have any proposals to
-- or announcements to make with

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regard to what
next steps might be,

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but you can be sure that we
will work with the international

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community, continue to press the
Assad regime to cease its brutal

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violence against its own people.

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One of the reasons why the Annan
plan was not just a cease-fire

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but an agreement to withdraw
forces from population centers

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is that while it is certainly
better if there is a gun to

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someone's head that the
trigger is not being pulled,

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the gun is still at your head
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and that's the situation when
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forces are in position to
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That is a long way from
fulfillment of the obligations

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that the Assad regime
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The Press:
Does the United States think
Assad is just trying to buy

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time by not complying right now?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, it certainly is the case
that the Assad regime has been

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long on promises and short on
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both to the international
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Motivations behind the failure
to fulfill those obligations,

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to fulfill those promises
others can analyze.

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But it is certainly the case
that when dealing with this

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regime and its heinous behavior
and its actions against its own

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people, we take a very
dim view of promises.

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We focus on actions.

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Dan.

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The Press:
Thank you.

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Just to follow on Syria.

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Kofi Annan also said that he was
encouraged by the situation on

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the ground there.

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It seems to be relatively
quiet at this point.

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Are you -- is the
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encouraged at
least by this step?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, as I tried to
illustrate, it is certainly --

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even a tentative or
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cease-fire is better
than no cease-fire at all.

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But we could not call the
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ground a full cease-fire.

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We have seen a halt in gunfire
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the country.

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However, some incidents of
regime-perpetrated violence

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have been reported in
different volatile areas.

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The halting gunfire would not
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of the ceasefire commitments
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Syrian military -- as I was
saying before -- including

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all weaponry, equipment and
personnel have been pulled

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out of all urban areas.

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So again, a
tentative cease-fire,

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a less-than-full cease-fire
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implementation of the
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the Annan plan.

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The Press:
And North Korea -- there are a
number of food aid organizations

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that are concerned about
what happens when this

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launch takes place.

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They believe that this food
agreement is necessary for

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children and mothers over there.

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What is the concern
in the administration,

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pulling back this
desperately needed food

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aid to the North Koreans?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, it is because of
the President's and the

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administration's concern
about the health and welfare

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of a people who have been
systematically deprived of basic

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nutritional sustenance because
of this regime's focus on

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funding military programs
that violate its international

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obligations that the President
was prepared to provide

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nutritional assistance
to the North Koreans.

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But as I've said
a number of times,

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the clear violation of U.N.

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Security Council resolutions
that a launch of a ballistic

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missile would represent makes it
virtually impossible for us to

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go ahead with that
program of assistance,

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in part because we
can -- if we cannot --

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one of the factors on the table
whenever you consider something

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like this is you need to be able
to have assurances that the aid

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provided is getting to
the people who need it,

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not being syphoned off to
the military, for example,

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or other areas.

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And the significant and clear
demonstration of bad faith that

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this missile launch would
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makes us unable to move
forward with that program.

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The Press:
One official that we spoke with,
with a food organization sort of

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disputed that, saying that
they don't see any problem

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at all making sure that this
aid will get into the hands

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of the right people, that
porridge and oil is not the

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kind of food that the elite
would want to skim off or take.

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Mr. Carney:
I haven't seen that assessment.

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I'll trust the judgments being
made by the administration on

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this about a regime that is
one of the most isolated police

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states in the world, about
their capacity to obviate --

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fail to fulfill
their obligations.

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Firing this missile is
a provocative action if

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it takes place.

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It is in clear violation of
clear United Nations Security

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Council resolutions.

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And that was made very clear to
the North Koreans not just by us

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but by others who
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by other nations that are
very concerned about this.

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And we will continue to monitor
the situation there and consult

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with our allies as the
situation develops.

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Yes, Mary.

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The Press:
When Ms. Rosen did
visit the White House,

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regardless of how many times,
can you explain what issues

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brought her here, what
matters did she help with?

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Mr. Carney:
I don't know.

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I haven't looked at that.

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I mean, I would have to
check -- or you could ask her.

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Yes.

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The Press:
Jay, what's left for President
Obama to say about the Buffett

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Rule in his four
interviews this afternoon?

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[laughter]

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Mr. Carney:
I'm glad you asked, because gone
are the days when all you had to

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do was talk to CBS News or ABC,
or The New York Times, or CNN,

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or The Wall Street Journal --

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The Press:
Or Reuters.

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Mr. Carney:
-- or Reuters.

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[laughter]

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The Press:
Keep going.

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[laughter]

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Mr. Carney:
I won't tell your bosses
that you volunteered.

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The Press:
Time?

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Mr. Carney:
Or Time Magazine, or -- and
could be sure that most of the

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adult population in the country
would hear what you had to say.

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You know this, Mark, I think
better than most here because

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you've seen -- you've witnessed
from this perch here covering

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the White House the
evolution in the media.

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And the absolute fact that
people across the country get

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their news in a variety
of different ways --

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they don't all sit down and
listen to the radio as they

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did before television.

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They don't all watch the
same television shows.

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There's just too many outlets -- too
many outlets, too many alternatives.

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So that makes it more of a
challenge for anyone who is

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trying to reach out and
communicate with the American

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people, whether he or she is
a President or anybody else.

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And that's why the President
continues to talk about his

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policy initiatives in a -- with
a variety of different people in

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a variety of different forums.

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Because we certainly do not
believe that everyone in the

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country is as expertly informed
about the fundamental fairness

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that the Buffett Rule
represents as you are.

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The Press:
Is President Obama reaching
out to members of the Senate

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with phone calls in
advance of next week's vote?

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Mr. Carney:
I don't have any -- he speaks
periodically with members of

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Congress both in the
Senate and the House.

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I don't have any specific
calls to read out to you.

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We are focused on trying to
convince or persuade senators

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to vote in favor of the
Buffett Rule proposal,

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the legislation that was put
forward by Senator Whitehouse

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of Rhode Island, and
certainly hope that,

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perhaps not because of our
persuasions but the fact that

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constituents across the country,
Americans across the country in

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every state broadly
support the proposal,

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that senators who in
the past have expressed

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opposition might reconsider.

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I'll move around a little bit,
then I'll get to you, Wendell.

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Jackie.

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The Press:
I'll just follow up on the
Buffett Rule real quickly.

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Since the administration
has come to support Senator

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Whitehouse's version, which
is reduced from the original

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concept that the President put
out in September and again in

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his budget, does the
administration still see the

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Buffett Rule as a total
replacement for the AMT,

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the Alternative Minimum Tax,
to make sure that wealthier

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taxpayers pay a certain rate?

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Mr. Carney:
I would have to take
your question because

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I don't want to get it wrong in
terms of the economic analysis,

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and I might consult with
some of the experts here

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to answer that question.

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We certainly see the Buffett
Rule as an important fallback,

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if you will, to ensure that
millionaires and billionaires

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pay at least the tax rate that
middle-class Americans pay.

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Now, a number of -- not all
current millionaires and

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billionaires pay a
lower rate than 30%;

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some of them certainly do.

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One of the things that
I think is clear here --

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I got into a little debate with
a reporter the other day about

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how the Buffett Rule
was raising rates.

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Well, it's not raising rates.

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Obviously, as you know, the
current highest marginal tax

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rate is above that.

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And if you're a millionaire
or billionaire and you're just

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getting a paycheck that's quite
large and paying income tax,

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federal income tax on it, then
most of that money will be taxed

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at the highest marginal
income tax rate.

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But the fact of the matter
is, the Buffett Rule and the

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documentation that we've
provided you shows clearly

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that a number of -- thousands of
millionaires and billionaires

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and some of the wealthiest
households in this country

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are paying tax on their income
at a much lower rate than 30%.

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So this would be an insurance
policy, if you will,

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that would make sure
that, as a bottom line,

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30% was paid.

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The Press:
And on oil prices, following
up on Dan's question --

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in the President's conversation
with President Sarkozy,

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does the fact that you have
nothing to announce in terms of

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going to the reserves
for oil supplies,

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does that suggest that the
administration doesn't see

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any need to do so right now?

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Or what is the
administration's stance?

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Mr. Carney:
I would examine and consider
my comments and come to a

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conclusion that they impart
almost no information in

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that regard.

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[laughter]

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The Press:
As opposed to the
rest of the briefing?

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[laughter]

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Mr. Carney:
As opposed to the
rest of the briefing.

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And I was simply making the
point that this is a topic

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of conversation that
has come up before,

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would be expected to come up
in a conversation between the

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French President and
the American President,

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between the American
President and other leaders.

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So I simply have no more
information about that subject,

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no announcements to make
on that subject today.

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Ari, and then Wendell.

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The Press:
Tomorrow, Mitt Romney speaks
to the NRA National Convention.

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And the last time the President
spoke at length about guns was

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after the Tucson shootings,
when he called for a national

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dialogue on guns
and gun violence.

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Did that national
dialogue ever happen?

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Did he do anything to
help make it happen?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, as you know,
President Obama has

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called for common-sense
measures that protect the

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Second Amendment rights
of law-abiding citizens,

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and improve public safety by
keeping guns out of the hands

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of those who should not have
them under existing law.

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The President directed the
Attorney General and the

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Department of Justice to
work with a diverse group

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of stakeholders to
accomplish those goals.

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They have made
progress, for example,

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towards improving the amount
and quality of information in

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the background check system.

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For more details about that
ongoing effort I would refer

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you to the Department of Justice.

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The Press:
Is that the dialogue
he was referring to,

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sort of an internal
Justice Department --

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Mr. Carney:
Well, this was -- those efforts
by the Justice Department are

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specific, obviously,
to the administration.

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The dialogue that exists in the
country on these issues I think

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is always present,
and continues.

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The Press:
Can I follow on that?

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Mr. Carney:
Sure.

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The Press:
Last week, in the Rose Garden,
President Calderón said that the

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violence -- gun violence in
Mexico started to escalate

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and could trace it to 2004 when
the assault weapons ban in the

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United States expired.

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So does the President support
renewing, extending that ban?

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And what has he done about it?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, Bill, again, the
President's views on the

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need for common-sense measures
that protect Second Amendment

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rights but ensure that those
who should not have guns under

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existing law are well known.

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I don't recall -- I
certainly didn't discuss

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with him President Calderón's
comments, so I don't have any

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updates for you on
specific legislation.

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The Press:
The assault weapons
ban expired in 2004.

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Has the President taken a
stand on extending that?

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Mr. Carney:
I'll have to get
back to you on that.

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I don't have any new
information on that.

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Wendell.

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The Press:
Former administrator of the
GSA says recent stories about

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spending patterns there
suggest a systemic failure

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of the system there.

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Does the President
agree with that?

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And is he concerned that these
spending patterns might be more

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widespread across
the government --

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people being sent to Hawaii
for five days for an hour-long

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ribbon-cutting
ceremony, for instance?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, a couple of points.

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I think on his first day in
office, as you know, Wendell,

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President Obama made clear that
the people who serve in his

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administration are keepers of
the public trust and that public

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service is a privilege.

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And under his leadership,
this administration has taken

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historic steps to protect
taxpayer dollars and eliminate

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waste across the
federal government.

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As you know, when the White
House was informed of the IG's

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findings in this case, we acted
quickly to determine who was

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responsible for such a gross
misuse of taxpayer dollars.

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I think you know that when the
President was informed before

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his trip to South Korea about
this case he was outraged by

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what he heard, by the
excessive spending,

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the questionable dealings
with contractors,

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the disregard for
taxpayer dollars,

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and he called for all of
those responsible to be

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held fully accountable.

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And I think the administration
has acted accordingly in

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response to this.

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We are constantly on the lookout
for waste of taxpayer dollars.

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And again, when this matter
got to the White House,

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00:26:19,661 --> 00:26:22,961
it was acted on with
incredible speed,

476
00:26:22,961 --> 00:26:25,828
and at the behest
of the President,

477
00:26:25,828 --> 00:26:29,961
who was outraged
by what he learned,

478
00:26:29,961 --> 00:26:32,795
those responsible are being
held fully accountable.

479
00:26:32,795 --> 00:26:35,227
The Press:
Does the fact that this
actually occurred suggest

480
00:26:35,227 --> 00:26:41,594
that your lookout might
need to be expanded?

481
00:26:41,594 --> 00:26:42,661
Mr. Carney:
Look, I think that --

482
00:26:42,661 --> 00:26:43,494
The Press:
Does it call for more scrutiny?

483
00:26:43,494 --> 00:26:45,794
Mr. Carney:
-- what happened here is
there was an Inspector

484
00:26:45,795 --> 00:26:49,161
General investigation,
which is appropriate.

485
00:26:49,161 --> 00:26:53,361
When those -- the findings of
that investigation were made

486
00:26:53,361 --> 00:26:57,127
known to the White House, the
White House acted with extreme

487
00:26:57,127 --> 00:27:04,961
dispatch out of concern for the
misuse of tax dollars that the

488
00:27:04,961 --> 00:27:11,328
report enumerated.

489
00:27:11,328 --> 00:27:17,226
And the President was
outraged, as you know.

490
00:27:17,227 --> 00:27:18,227
All the way back --

491
00:27:18,227 --> 00:27:19,461
Alexis.

492
00:27:19,461 --> 00:27:21,795
The Press:
Jay, to follow up
on Mark's question,

493
00:27:21,795 --> 00:27:24,528
can you just -- for those of us
who are wondering how the four

494
00:27:24,528 --> 00:27:27,761
anchors, the actual
stations were chosen --

495
00:27:27,761 --> 00:27:31,695
is it because of the importance
of the states or how --

496
00:27:31,695 --> 00:27:34,860
what's the intersection between
the Buffett Rule and Iowa, Ohio,

497
00:27:34,861 --> 00:27:37,261
Nevada and Missouri?

498
00:27:37,261 --> 00:27:42,528
Mr. Carney:
I would say that we are
very interested in making

499
00:27:42,528 --> 00:27:47,394
sure that the residents of those
four states are aware of the

500
00:27:47,394 --> 00:27:54,494
debate, are informed
about the issue.

501
00:27:54,494 --> 00:28:02,593
And if they feel, as a
majority of Americans feel,

502
00:28:02,594 --> 00:28:07,994
that the Buffett Rule is fair,
that it is the right thing to do

503
00:28:07,994 --> 00:28:12,160
to ensure that millionaires and
billionaires pay taxes on their

504
00:28:12,161 --> 00:28:17,161
income at a rate commensurate
or equal to what middle-class

505
00:28:17,161 --> 00:28:18,795
Americans pay, and
no lower than that,

506
00:28:18,795 --> 00:28:23,761
then they will have their
voices heard if they feel

507
00:28:23,761 --> 00:28:24,761
passionately about it.

508
00:28:24,761 --> 00:28:28,328
So we're -- it's meant to get
the message out and get the

509
00:28:28,328 --> 00:28:34,293
message out, in this case, in
states where we think it's

510
00:28:34,294 --> 00:28:39,761
useful to get
that message heard.

511
00:28:39,761 --> 00:28:41,161
April -- oh, I'm going
to get in trouble.

512
00:28:41,161 --> 00:28:43,261
April, yes.

513
00:28:43,261 --> 00:28:46,828
The Press:
Jay, I wanted to go back to
something that Ari asked you

514
00:28:46,828 --> 00:28:48,394
and some other things.

515
00:28:48,394 --> 00:28:52,127
With the recent
headlines involving guns,

516
00:28:52,127 --> 00:28:55,561
has the White House decided
now maybe it's time to start

517
00:28:55,561 --> 00:28:58,061
that dialogue?

518
00:28:58,061 --> 00:29:02,928
Mr. Carney:
Well, again, April, I think
I answered this question.

519
00:29:02,928 --> 00:29:05,795
The Justice Department is
engaged in a process at the

520
00:29:05,795 --> 00:29:07,795
direction of the President.

521
00:29:07,795 --> 00:29:10,895
The President's principles are
well known about the need to

522
00:29:10,895 --> 00:29:14,428
protect Second Amendment rights
but to ensure that those who

523
00:29:14,428 --> 00:29:18,061
should not have guns under
existing law do not have

524
00:29:18,061 --> 00:29:19,895
access to guns.

525
00:29:19,895 --> 00:29:21,561
And that process will continue.

526
00:29:21,561 --> 00:29:23,293
But for details on it,
I would refer you to

527
00:29:23,294 --> 00:29:24,661
the Department of Justice.

528
00:29:24,661 --> 00:29:28,027
The Press:
But typically, when Presidents
feel that they want to push an

529
00:29:28,027 --> 00:29:30,461
issue, they put some
skin in the game --

530
00:29:30,461 --> 00:29:32,594
they go on the Hill, maybe
even make calls on it.

531
00:29:32,594 --> 00:29:35,561
Mr. Carney:
I want to separate here -- there
is an investigation going on on

532
00:29:35,561 --> 00:29:38,761
a specific case in a
specific state here.

533
00:29:38,761 --> 00:29:43,494
And you're making a connection
between issues or actions in

534
00:29:43,494 --> 00:29:45,761
that case, and I want to
make sure that that's --

535
00:29:45,761 --> 00:29:47,328
The Press:
No, no, it's not --

536
00:29:47,328 --> 00:29:50,394
Mr. Carney:
-- it's clear here that
we're not commenting on

537
00:29:50,394 --> 00:29:52,561
an ongoing investigation.

538
00:29:52,561 --> 00:29:56,794
We're not -- the President is
focused in the same way on this

539
00:29:56,795 --> 00:30:02,227
issue and to the same degree
on this issue as he has been

540
00:30:02,227 --> 00:30:03,961
for the entirety of
his administration.

541
00:30:03,961 --> 00:30:07,494
The Press:
Jay, I'm not just talking
about this Trayvon Martin issue.

542
00:30:07,494 --> 00:30:10,961
Gabrielle Giffords is a very
good friend of the President.

543
00:30:10,961 --> 00:30:12,561
He saw her in the hospital.

544
00:30:12,561 --> 00:30:13,727
He was by her side.

545
00:30:13,728 --> 00:30:17,994
And he was very concerned, and
he started talking about guns.

546
00:30:17,994 --> 00:30:21,461
And we're still seeing more
issues happening with guns.

547
00:30:21,461 --> 00:30:24,594
And the issue is, why
has he not come out?

548
00:30:24,594 --> 00:30:28,094
It's not necessarily about the
cases now, but the cases --

549
00:30:28,094 --> 00:30:30,695
all the cases since
he's been in office.

550
00:30:30,695 --> 00:30:34,226
When is he going to push
for sensible gun laws --

551
00:30:34,227 --> 00:30:36,528
new sensible gun laws?

552
00:30:36,528 --> 00:30:39,461
Mr. Carney:
The President's focus, as you
know and I've said a couple of

553
00:30:39,461 --> 00:30:42,394
times, is on ensuring that under
existing law those who should

554
00:30:42,394 --> 00:30:47,161
not have guns do not
have access to them;

555
00:30:47,161 --> 00:30:49,928
that guns are kept out of the
hands of those who should not

556
00:30:49,928 --> 00:30:51,528
have them under existing law.

557
00:30:51,528 --> 00:30:55,695
He directed, in the wake of
the Gabby Giffords shooting,

558
00:30:55,695 --> 00:30:57,761
the Attorney General and the
Department of Justice to work

559
00:30:57,761 --> 00:31:01,461
with a group of stakeholders --
a diverse group of stakeholders

560
00:31:01,461 --> 00:31:02,895
to accomplish those goals.

561
00:31:02,895 --> 00:31:06,061
And there's been
progress in that effort.

562
00:31:06,061 --> 00:31:11,961
I would check with Justice for
more specifics and more updates.

563
00:31:11,961 --> 00:31:14,561
The Press:
And on a tick-tock
about Trayvon Martin,

564
00:31:14,561 --> 00:31:18,660
how did he find out yesterday
about the murder charges for --

565
00:31:18,661 --> 00:31:22,661
the murder charge -- the
second degree murder charge

566
00:31:22,661 --> 00:31:23,994
for George Zimmerman?

567
00:31:23,994 --> 00:31:29,328
And also, could you tell us
how he's updated daily on the

568
00:31:29,328 --> 00:31:31,994
situation through Justice?

569
00:31:31,994 --> 00:31:35,561
Mr. Carney:
I think, as I've said
before, the President

570
00:31:35,561 --> 00:31:37,761
keeps up with the news.

571
00:31:37,761 --> 00:31:43,094
He tends to read the
newspapers periodically and --

572
00:31:43,094 --> 00:31:44,094
The Press:
Which ones?

573
00:31:44,094 --> 00:31:45,761
[laughter]

574
00:31:45,761 --> 00:31:49,961
Mr. Carney:
I don't want to cause any
consternation from here.

575
00:31:49,961 --> 00:31:56,761
But, no, he -- as I've said, he
tends to get his news from print

576
00:31:56,761 --> 00:32:01,328
material, either
paper itself or online.

577
00:32:01,328 --> 00:32:04,293
But I don't -- I wasn't with
him when he learned about this.

578
00:32:04,294 --> 00:32:05,628
I believe he just learned
about it from the news.

579
00:32:05,628 --> 00:32:07,293
I'm not sure.

580
00:32:07,294 --> 00:32:09,795
But he doesn't get
daily briefings on it.

581
00:32:09,795 --> 00:32:14,994
I'm sure he reads the newspapers
and keeps up with it that way.

582
00:32:14,994 --> 00:32:16,226
Kristen.

583
00:32:16,227 --> 00:32:19,928
The Press:
Jay, the President has decided
at this moment not to sign an

584
00:32:19,928 --> 00:32:22,361
executive order that would
ban workplace discrimination

585
00:32:22,361 --> 00:32:25,795
by any federal contractor on
the basis of sexual orientation.

586
00:32:25,795 --> 00:32:29,227
Based on the fact that the
President has made past

587
00:32:29,227 --> 00:32:31,261
statements saying that he
supports non-discrimination

588
00:32:31,261 --> 00:32:35,728
policies in the workplace, why
not sign this executive order?

589
00:32:35,728 --> 00:32:37,461
Mr. Carney:
Thank you for the question.

590
00:32:37,461 --> 00:32:40,994
The President is dedicated to
securing equal rights for all

591
00:32:40,994 --> 00:32:42,761
LGBT Americans.

592
00:32:42,761 --> 00:32:45,561
And that is why he has
long supported an inclusive

593
00:32:45,561 --> 00:32:48,860
employment non-discrimination
act which would prohibit

594
00:32:48,861 --> 00:32:52,361
employers across the country
from discriminating on the basis

595
00:32:52,361 --> 00:32:54,661
of sexual orientation
and gender identity.

596
00:32:54,661 --> 00:32:57,695
The President is committed
to lasting and comprehensive

597
00:32:57,695 --> 00:33:00,593
non-discrimination protections,
and we plan to pursue a number

598
00:33:00,594 --> 00:33:02,895
of strategies to
attain that goal.

599
00:33:02,895 --> 00:33:06,594
Our hope is these efforts will
result in the passage of ENDA,

600
00:33:06,594 --> 00:33:08,027
the Employment
Non-Discrimination Act,

601
00:33:08,027 --> 00:33:09,027
which is a legislative
solution to LGBT

602
00:33:09,027 --> 00:33:10,027
employment discrimination.

603
00:33:10,027 --> 00:33:16,494
And I would make the comparison
here that pursuing that

604
00:33:16,494 --> 00:33:19,761
strategy, the passage of ENDA,
is very similar to the approach

605
00:33:19,761 --> 00:33:20,761
the President took for
the legislative repeal

606
00:33:20,761 --> 00:33:27,828
of "don't ask, don't tell."

607
00:33:27,828 --> 00:33:33,828
The Press:
Can you make the distinction
between ENDA and signing this

608
00:33:33,828 --> 00:33:34,461
executive order?

609
00:33:34,461 --> 00:33:36,928
In other words, if
he does support ENDA,

610
00:33:36,928 --> 00:33:38,127
why not sign this
executive order,

611
00:33:38,127 --> 00:33:41,594
which relates to a smaller part
of the population and get that

612
00:33:41,594 --> 00:33:42,294
policy started?

613
00:33:42,294 --> 00:33:44,661
Mr. Carney:
Again, I think that
the DADT repeal is

614
00:33:44,661 --> 00:33:47,761
instructive here in terms
of the approach that we're

615
00:33:47,761 --> 00:33:49,194
taking at this time.

616
00:33:49,194 --> 00:33:52,293
And while it is not our usual
practice to discuss executive

617
00:33:52,294 --> 00:33:54,828
orders that may or may not
be under consideration,

618
00:33:54,828 --> 00:33:59,094
we do not expect that an EO
on LGBT non-discrimination for

619
00:33:59,094 --> 00:34:01,828
federal contractors will
be issued at this time.

620
00:34:01,828 --> 00:34:04,528
We support, as I just said,
legislation that has been

621
00:34:04,528 --> 00:34:06,661
introduced -- the Employment
Non-Discrimination Act --

622
00:34:06,661 --> 00:34:09,695
and we will continue to work
with congressional supporters

623
00:34:09,695 --> 00:34:13,227
to build -- sponsors, rather,
to build support for it.

624
00:34:13,226 --> 00:34:15,293
We're deeply committed to
working hand-in-hand with

625
00:34:15,293 --> 00:34:18,627
partners in the LGBT community
on a number of fronts to build

626
00:34:18,628 --> 00:34:21,695
the case for employment
non-discrimination policies

627
00:34:21,695 --> 00:34:24,261
including by complementing the
existing body of compelling

628
00:34:24,261 --> 00:34:27,628
research with government-backed
data and analysis,

629
00:34:27,628 --> 00:34:29,828
building a coalition
of key stakeholders and

630
00:34:29,828 --> 00:34:33,061
decision-makers, directly
engaging with and educating

631
00:34:33,061 --> 00:34:34,861
all sectors of the
business community --

632
00:34:34,860 --> 00:34:37,960
from major corporations to
contractors to small business --

633
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,460
and raising public awareness
about the human and financial

634
00:34:40,460 --> 00:34:44,060
costs of discrimination
in the work force.

635
00:34:44,061 --> 00:34:46,094
The Press:
Tico Almeida, who's the
president of Freedom to

636
00:34:46,094 --> 00:34:48,161
Work, has issued
a statement saying,

637
00:34:48,161 --> 00:34:51,328
"This is a political
calculation that cannot stand."

638
00:34:51,328 --> 00:34:54,494
Is this a political calculation?

639
00:34:54,494 --> 00:34:55,494
Mr. Carney:
Absolutely not.

640
00:34:55,494 --> 00:34:58,994
The President is committed to
securing equal rights for LGBT

641
00:34:58,994 --> 00:35:01,127
Americans and that is why
he has long supported ENDA.

642
00:35:01,127 --> 00:35:04,728
I think the President's record
on LGBT issues speaks volumes

643
00:35:04,728 --> 00:35:12,528
about his commitment to securing
equal rights for LGBT Americans.

644
00:35:12,528 --> 00:35:15,461
The approach we're taking at
this time is to try to build

645
00:35:15,461 --> 00:35:18,928
support for passage
of this legislation,

646
00:35:18,928 --> 00:35:24,194
a comprehensive approach
to legislate on the issue

647
00:35:24,194 --> 00:35:27,594
of non-discrimination.

648
00:35:27,594 --> 00:35:34,127
And I think, again, the approach
that we took in bringing about

649
00:35:34,127 --> 00:35:36,227
the repeal -- working with
Congress to bring about the

650
00:35:36,227 --> 00:35:41,428
repeal of "don't ask, don't
tell" is instructive here.

651
00:35:41,428 --> 00:35:46,594
And as it did then, our approach
to this piece of legislation

652
00:35:46,594 --> 00:35:49,928
demonstrates the President's
very firm and strong commitment

653
00:35:49,928 --> 00:35:53,094
to non-discrimination and
to securing equal rights

654
00:35:53,094 --> 00:35:55,161
for all Americans.

655
00:35:55,161 --> 00:35:58,294
The Press:
Jay, if it's not going
to happen at this time --

656
00:35:58,294 --> 00:36:00,694
some sort of commitment to
or issue an executive order

657
00:36:00,695 --> 00:36:01,494
at a later time?

658
00:36:01,494 --> 00:36:04,161
Mr. Carney:
Well, I'm simply saying
that our approach is to

659
00:36:04,161 --> 00:36:08,461
focus on trying to build
and expand support for

660
00:36:08,461 --> 00:36:10,560
passage of ENDA.

661
00:36:10,561 --> 00:36:11,461
That is our support.

662
00:36:11,461 --> 00:36:15,928
In terms of, again -- as a
rule -- and we try to stick

663
00:36:15,928 --> 00:36:19,861
to it here -- we don't talk
about executive orders that

664
00:36:19,861 --> 00:36:21,627
may or may not be
under consideration.

665
00:36:21,628 --> 00:36:25,027
In this case, I can tell you
that at this time we are not

666
00:36:25,027 --> 00:36:29,761
considering such
an executive order.

667
00:36:29,761 --> 00:36:34,594
We are, however, actively
working with stakeholders to

668
00:36:34,594 --> 00:36:38,361
build support for passage
through Congress of a piece

669
00:36:38,361 --> 00:36:41,127
of legislation that would be
far more comprehensive than

670
00:36:41,127 --> 00:36:43,027
an executive order.

671
00:36:43,027 --> 00:36:44,795
Hey, guys, one at a time.

672
00:36:44,795 --> 00:36:46,861
The Press:
It's highly unlikely
that the Congress will

673
00:36:46,861 --> 00:36:48,361
pass it given its
current makeup.

674
00:36:48,361 --> 00:36:50,161
And the President has issued
numerous executive orders under

675
00:36:50,161 --> 00:36:52,695
the theme "We Can't Wait"
-- has been unable to pass

676
00:36:52,695 --> 00:36:53,695
job legislation.

677
00:36:53,695 --> 00:36:57,127
Why is the President making this
distinction with this LGBQ --

678
00:36:57,127 --> 00:37:03,161
Mr. Carney:
We believe that this is the
right approach to achieve

679
00:37:03,161 --> 00:37:05,561
success here in a
broad and comprehensive

680
00:37:05,561 --> 00:37:08,428
legislative action.

681
00:37:08,428 --> 00:37:11,694
And at this time, we're not
considering as a part of that

682
00:37:11,695 --> 00:37:12,861
an executive order.

683
00:37:12,861 --> 00:37:16,528
Now, there are executive orders
that this President has signed

684
00:37:16,528 --> 00:37:19,227
and there are executive orders,
either real or imagined,

685
00:37:19,227 --> 00:37:20,895
that the President
has not acted on,

686
00:37:20,895 --> 00:37:24,695
and that's because we look at
each issue and we decide on a

687
00:37:24,695 --> 00:37:27,861
strategy that we think makes
the most sense to achieving the

688
00:37:27,861 --> 00:37:30,294
President's policy objectives.

689
00:37:30,294 --> 00:37:34,394
The Press:
Does the President believe that
Executive Order 11246 that has

690
00:37:34,394 --> 00:37:40,828
been in place since 1965
is redundant to Title VII?

691
00:37:40,828 --> 00:37:41,561
Mr. Carney:
You're going to have to --

692
00:37:41,561 --> 00:37:43,795
The Press:
That's the federal contractor
executive order that has been

693
00:37:43,795 --> 00:37:48,161
in place for race,
religion and sex since 1965.

694
00:37:48,161 --> 00:37:49,361
Mr. Carney:
I haven't had that
discussion with him, Chris.

695
00:37:49,361 --> 00:37:53,060
What I do know for a fact
is that this President is

696
00:37:53,061 --> 00:37:56,695
absolutely dedicated to securing
equal rights for LGBT Americans.

697
00:37:56,695 --> 00:38:00,828
I think his record
speaks volumes in support

698
00:38:00,828 --> 00:38:02,227
of that statement.

699
00:38:02,227 --> 00:38:06,127
And I think that the strategy
that he pursued and the work

700
00:38:06,127 --> 00:38:09,461
that he did with
Congress, with allies,

701
00:38:09,461 --> 00:38:11,895
in support of repeal
of "don't ask,

702
00:38:11,895 --> 00:38:16,328
don't tell" testifies
to his commitment.

703
00:38:16,328 --> 00:38:17,161
And you can --

704
00:38:17,161 --> 00:38:18,695
The Press:
But unlike "don't
ask, don't tell",

705
00:38:18,695 --> 00:38:22,861
the executive order route on
employment nondiscrimination

706
00:38:22,861 --> 00:38:26,828
for federal contractors has a
separate portion even in

707
00:38:26,828 --> 00:38:29,494
addition to the legislative
route that has been in

708
00:38:29,494 --> 00:38:31,027
existence since 1965.

709
00:38:31,027 --> 00:38:33,361
So this is not the same as
"don't ask, don't tell."

710
00:38:33,361 --> 00:38:37,361
And why has the President not
approached in a similar way

711
00:38:37,361 --> 00:38:38,895
to that law?

712
00:38:38,895 --> 00:38:41,494
Mr. Carney:
It is a similar approach
to the approach we took to

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00:38:41,494 --> 00:38:44,294
"don't ask, don't tell."

714
00:38:44,294 --> 00:38:47,394
Again, I haven't talked to
him about other executive

715
00:38:47,394 --> 00:38:48,394
orders here.

716
00:38:48,394 --> 00:38:50,093
What I can tell you is we're not
considering an executive order

717
00:38:50,094 --> 00:38:51,328
on this at this time.

718
00:38:51,328 --> 00:38:53,328
We are focused on a
legislative approach,

719
00:38:53,328 --> 00:38:57,728
a comprehensive approach
that would be much broader

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00:38:57,728 --> 00:38:58,728
through legislation.

721
00:38:58,728 --> 00:39:05,161
And we are going to work with
stakeholders to try to build

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00:39:05,161 --> 00:39:07,394
support for passage of ENDA.

723
00:39:07,394 --> 00:39:12,060
The Press:
One question
before we move on.

724
00:39:12,061 --> 00:39:14,761
You've said that the President
legislatively repealed "don't

725
00:39:14,761 --> 00:39:15,461
ask, don't tell."

726
00:39:15,461 --> 00:39:18,727
While that's true, he twice
took in this sort of action to

727
00:39:18,728 --> 00:39:20,728
[inaudible] discharge authority
twice before that repeal

728
00:39:20,728 --> 00:39:22,061
legislation was passed.

729
00:39:22,061 --> 00:39:26,061
So to say that you need to
have legislation to go with

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00:39:26,061 --> 00:39:27,994
administrative action
first is not true.

731
00:39:27,994 --> 00:39:30,861
Mr. Carney:
Well, that's actually
not a correction, Chris.

732
00:39:30,861 --> 00:39:33,861
It is a separate statement
of action and fact.

733
00:39:33,861 --> 00:39:38,261
We are not approaching this
at this time through executive

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00:39:38,261 --> 00:39:40,027
authority, through
an executive order.

735
00:39:40,027 --> 00:39:43,361
We are, however -- in another
demonstration of the President's

736
00:39:43,361 --> 00:39:44,961
firm commitment to
securing equal rights

737
00:39:44,961 --> 00:39:51,060
for the LGBT community
-- aggressively pursuing

738
00:39:51,061 --> 00:39:52,061
passage of ENDA.

739
00:39:52,061 --> 00:39:58,628
And that requires working with
stakeholders and building a body

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00:39:58,628 --> 00:40:02,161
of persuasive evidence that
this is the right thing to do.

741
00:40:02,161 --> 00:40:04,227
And that is what we're
committed to doing.

742
00:40:04,227 --> 00:40:05,560
Yes.

743
00:40:05,561 --> 00:40:09,994
The Press:
On Syria, you already --
my quick two questions is,

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00:40:09,994 --> 00:40:14,928
one, tomorrow is Friday, many
large numbers of Syrians get

745
00:40:14,928 --> 00:40:18,194
together after the Friday
prayer and then you see

746
00:40:18,194 --> 00:40:19,928
all the casualties
and other mistreatment.

747
00:40:19,928 --> 00:40:23,961
Do you have any message -- many
people argue that this is first

748
00:40:23,961 --> 00:40:27,493
and biggest test for the truce,
that you are not satisfied.

749
00:40:27,494 --> 00:40:32,127
Could you please talk to
that -- what's your message?

750
00:40:32,127 --> 00:40:38,061
Mr. Carney:
Sure. Our message is to Assad
regime: Stop killing you people.

751
00:40:38,061 --> 00:40:42,027
Stop the violence.

752
00:40:42,027 --> 00:40:43,361
Commit yourself to a cease-fire.

753
00:40:43,361 --> 00:40:46,227
Commit yourself fully to
implementing the Annan plan.

754
00:40:46,227 --> 00:40:46,993
Remove your troops.

755
00:40:46,994 --> 00:40:50,795
Withdraw your material,
your weapons from urban

756
00:40:50,795 --> 00:40:55,994
population centers.

757
00:40:55,994 --> 00:40:57,861
And I hope that that
message is heard.

758
00:40:57,861 --> 00:41:00,027
It's not just this
President's message;

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00:41:00,027 --> 00:41:01,795
it's the message of the
international community.

760
00:41:01,795 --> 00:41:08,961
There's broad support for the
Kofi Annan mission and the Kofi

761
00:41:08,961 --> 00:41:12,694
Annan plan on the United Nations
Security Council and throughout

762
00:41:12,695 --> 00:41:14,461
the world.

763
00:41:14,461 --> 00:41:16,461
And we hope -- and I think
I spoke to this earlier --

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that while there are some
signs of a tentative cease-fire

765
00:41:22,294 --> 00:41:27,728
holding at this point in time,
that is not the same as full

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00:41:27,728 --> 00:41:29,795
implementation of the
commitments that the Assad

767
00:41:29,795 --> 00:41:35,761
regime made 12 days ago when
it said it would implement

768
00:41:35,761 --> 00:41:37,761
the Annan plan.

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00:41:37,761 --> 00:41:38,761
The Press:
Final question.

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00:41:38,761 --> 00:41:43,261
Turkish Prime Minister yesterday
said he would invoke Article 5th

771
00:41:43,261 --> 00:41:46,428
to secure the border.

772
00:41:46,428 --> 00:41:48,861
Mr. Carney:
Article 5.

773
00:41:48,861 --> 00:41:49,861
The Press:
What's your approach to --

774
00:41:49,861 --> 00:41:50,861
Mr. Carney:
I didn't see that.

775
00:41:50,861 --> 00:41:53,795
I think we are obviously -- as
I think I said yesterday or the

776
00:41:53,795 --> 00:41:55,761
day before -- very
concerned about the incident,

777
00:41:55,761 --> 00:41:57,428
the cross-border violence.

778
00:41:57,428 --> 00:42:07,227
It is, again, a vivid example
of the abhorrent behavior of

779
00:42:07,227 --> 00:42:12,694
the Assad regime killing of
refugees across the border.

780
00:42:12,695 --> 00:42:14,928
We made clear our
concern about that issue,

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00:42:14,928 --> 00:42:19,161
and we've certainly been in
consultation with our Turkish

782
00:42:19,161 --> 00:42:20,161
allies on the matter.

783
00:42:20,161 --> 00:42:23,461
But I don't have a specific
response to that question.

784
00:42:23,461 --> 00:42:24,761
Ann Compton.

785
00:42:24,761 --> 00:42:25,761
The Press:
Thank you, Jay.

786
00:42:25,761 --> 00:42:28,928
Could you clarify what the
President was talking about

787
00:42:28,928 --> 00:42:30,993
yesterday when he mentioned
former President Reagan going

788
00:42:30,994 --> 00:42:35,227
out and talking about -- in
the sense of tax fairness?

789
00:42:35,227 --> 00:42:38,294
What does he think President
Reagan was promoting?

790
00:42:38,294 --> 00:42:44,627
Does he believe the President
was promoting a higher tax rate

791
00:42:44,628 --> 00:42:46,661
for the wealthy?

792
00:42:46,661 --> 00:42:49,161
Mr. Carney:
Well, here is a
classic misunderstanding,

793
00:42:49,161 --> 00:42:51,895
and I'm assuming not a
deliberate misrepresentation,

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00:42:51,895 --> 00:42:52,661
of what the Buffett Rule is.

795
00:42:52,661 --> 00:42:54,528
It is not a higher tax rate.

796
00:42:54,528 --> 00:43:02,660
It is a rule to ensure that
millionaires pay income tax --

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00:43:02,661 --> 00:43:05,461
a tax on their income no
lower than 30 percent,

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00:43:05,461 --> NaN:NaN:NaN,NaN
so that it is equal to what
middle-class Americans pay.

799
00:43:01,061 --> 00:43:12,628
Again, this is not about
raising marginal rates.

800
00:43:12,628 --> 00:43:15,161
The President does believe,
separate from this --

801
00:43:15,161 --> 00:43:18,227
but he was already talking
about the Buffett Rule --

802
00:43:18,227 --> 00:43:22,161
that we should let the high
income Bush tax cuts expire.

803
00:43:22,161 --> 00:43:25,628
The Buffett Rule would simply
ensure that if you're like

804
00:43:25,628 --> 00:43:28,461
Warren Buffett or many other
millionaires and billionaires

805
00:43:28,461 --> 00:43:32,928
out there, who, by taking
advantage of the existing tax

806
00:43:32,928 --> 00:43:39,428
code, pay something on the order
of 10 or 15 or 20 percent or

807
00:43:39,428 --> 00:43:45,227
whatever on your income,
that that's not fair when

808
00:43:45,227 --> 00:43:46,993
middle-class Americans, like
Warren Buffett's secretary,

809
00:43:46,994 --> 00:43:50,795
like the assistants that were
here yesterday at this event,

810
00:43:50,795 --> 00:43:52,494
they should not be paying --

811
00:43:52,494 --> 00:43:54,361
or representative
of this problem --

812
00:43:54,361 --> 00:43:58,828
they should not be paying taxes
on their income at a higher rate

813
00:43:58,828 --> 00:44:00,027
than millionaires
and billionaires.

814
00:44:00,027 --> 00:44:02,394
And I think that if you hear
what Ronald Reagan simply said

815
00:44:02,394 --> 00:44:06,361
was, he used an example that
could almost be ripped from

816
00:44:06,361 --> 00:44:07,361
today's headlines, right?

817
00:44:07,361 --> 00:44:10,027
He said he had a
CEO contact him.

818
00:44:10,027 --> 00:44:14,061
He made six figures, which
at that time was like being a

819
00:44:14,061 --> 00:44:16,728
millionaire, and who could not
believe and did not think it was

820
00:44:16,728 --> 00:44:20,094
fair that he was able to,
through perfectly legal means

821
00:44:20,094 --> 00:44:22,528
because of the loopholes
in the tax code,

822
00:44:22,528 --> 00:44:24,660
pay taxes at a lower
rate than his assistant.

823
00:44:24,661 --> 00:44:28,828
That is exactly the point that
Warren Buffett has been making.

824
00:44:28,828 --> 00:44:31,695
It is exactly the point that
President Obama has been making.

825
00:44:31,695 --> 00:44:33,761
The Press:
And so someone who takes
in a couple of million

826
00:44:33,761 --> 00:44:38,728
of dollars of capital gains
and pays the 15 percent rate,

827
00:44:38,728 --> 00:44:41,795
and does it legally, the
President does not want that

828
00:44:41,795 --> 00:44:44,161
person's tax liability to go up?

829
00:44:44,161 --> 00:44:47,361
Mr. Carney:
We've spoken very clearly
in our budget about capital

830
00:44:47,361 --> 00:44:50,194
gains rate with regards to
people making more than --

831
00:44:50,194 --> 00:44:52,861
millionaires and billionaires --
about the carried interest law.

832
00:44:52,861 --> 00:44:53,795
And the answer is, yes.

833
00:44:53,795 --> 00:44:55,628
We do not believe that
hedge fund managers --

834
00:44:55,628 --> 00:44:58,994
it's a perfect example --
should be paying tax on what

835
00:44:58,994 --> 00:45:02,394
by any common-sense definition
is income -- it isn't even

836
00:45:02,394 --> 00:45:08,294
capital -- it's not capital
profit, it's income --

837
00:45:08,294 --> 00:45:13,194
at a 15 percent rate, when most
folks who are earning a paycheck

838
00:45:13,194 --> 00:45:14,861
are paying at a
much higher rate.

839
00:45:14,861 --> 00:45:18,993
That does not seem fair to the
President and it doesn't make

840
00:45:18,994 --> 00:45:19,861
economic sense.

841
00:45:19,861 --> 00:45:20,895
And you know why?

842
00:45:20,895 --> 00:45:22,494
Because we tried it.

843
00:45:22,494 --> 00:45:25,928
And putting aside the fairness
argument for a minute and just

844
00:45:25,928 --> 00:45:28,094
looking at the effect
on the economy,

845
00:45:28,094 --> 00:45:31,795
what happens when you give
substantial tax cuts to the

846
00:45:31,795 --> 00:45:34,494
wealthiest Americans?

847
00:45:34,494 --> 00:45:36,594
Well, it's not a
theoretical exercise --

848
00:45:36,594 --> 00:45:39,628
2001 it happened;
2003 it happened.

849
00:45:39,628 --> 00:45:40,695
And what happened?

850
00:45:40,695 --> 00:45:42,895
Even in times of
economic expansion,

851
00:45:42,895 --> 00:45:45,795
we had unbelievably
anemic job growth,

852
00:45:45,795 --> 00:45:48,961
the lowest in recent history
in terms of expansion.

853
00:45:48,961 --> 00:45:52,461
We had an average -- during
the growth quarters of the

854
00:45:52,461 --> 00:45:57,060
Bush administration -- of under
100,000 jobs created per month,

855
00:45:57,061 --> 00:45:59,961
lower significantly
than March job creation,

856
00:45:59,961 --> 00:46:03,294
lower drastically than the kind
of job creation we've seen in

857
00:46:03,294 --> 00:46:04,294
the past quarter.

858
00:46:04,294 --> 00:46:05,861
So it hadn't worked.

859
00:46:05,861 --> 00:46:06,861
We tried it.

860
00:46:06,861 --> 00:46:12,761
Over the eight years before this
President came into office you

861
00:46:12,761 --> 00:46:17,561
saw a period when the middle
class was under tremendous

862
00:46:17,561 --> 00:46:20,761
strain, where the incomes of
middle-class Americans either

863
00:46:20,761 --> 00:46:26,261
stagnated or fell, and when
the incomes of the wealthiest

864
00:46:26,261 --> 00:46:30,061
Americans went up dramatically.

865
00:46:30,061 --> 00:46:35,061
That kind of imbalance is both
not fair for regular folks who

866
00:46:35,061 --> 00:46:36,795
are working hard, trying
to make ends meet,

867
00:46:36,795 --> 00:46:38,728
but it's also not
good for our economy.

868
00:46:38,728 --> 00:46:40,294
It didn't work.

869
00:46:40,294 --> 00:46:42,861
So we shouldn't just go back
and do what didn't work.

870
00:46:42,861 --> 00:46:46,728
And I even didn't mention what
happened at the end of that

871
00:46:46,728 --> 00:46:50,094
period -- global economic chaos.

872
00:46:50,094 --> 00:46:58,227
So if that's the plan, if that's
what some folks are selling,

873
00:46:58,227 --> 00:47:01,661
I'm hard pressed to believe that
there will be a lot of buyers.

874
00:47:01,661 --> 00:47:03,461
The Press:
Thank you.

875
00:47:03,461 --> 00:47:04,060
Mr. Carney:
Thank you, guys.