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1 00:00:03,503 --> 00:00:04,037 Chancellor Merkel: (As interpreted.) Ladies and 2 00:00:04,037 --> 00:00:06,372 gentlemen, I'm delighted to be able to welcome 3 00:00:06,373 --> 00:00:08,808 today for the sixth time the President of the 4 00:00:08,808 --> 00:00:14,481 United States of America, Barack Obama, to Germany. 5 00:00:14,481 --> 00:00:16,383 In his capacity as President of the United 6 00:00:16,383 --> 00:00:22,455 States, let us remind ourselves -- visiting us 7 00:00:22,455 --> 00:00:25,892 in his capacity as candidate here in Berlin; 8 00:00:25,892 --> 00:00:28,027 we then met in Baden-Baden. 9 00:00:28,027 --> 00:00:31,398 We then met in Dresden and Buchenwald. 10 00:00:31,398 --> 00:00:34,434 We saw each other when he gave a speech at the 11 00:00:34,434 --> 00:00:35,268 Brandenburg Gate. 12 00:00:35,268 --> 00:00:38,271 In Elmau, we met again at the G7. 13 00:00:38,271 --> 00:00:40,840 Then Hannover Faire comes to mind. 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,942 And today he is again here in Berlin. 15 00:00:42,942 --> 00:00:45,612 So eight years are coming to a close. 16 00:00:45,612 --> 00:00:48,515 This is the last visit of Barack Obama to our 17 00:00:48,515 --> 00:00:51,418 country, to Germany. 18 00:00:51,418 --> 00:00:55,754 I am very glad that he chose Germany as one of 19 00:00:55,755 --> 00:00:58,458 the stopovers on this trip. 20 00:00:58,458 --> 00:00:59,426 And thank you very much. 21 00:00:59,426 --> 00:01:00,860 Thank you for the friendship 22 00:01:00,860 --> 00:01:01,995 you've always demonstrated. 23 00:01:01,995 --> 00:01:05,197 Thank you for the reliable friendship and partnership 24 00:01:05,197 --> 00:01:08,000 you demonstrated in very difficult hours 25 00:01:08,001 --> 00:01:10,370 of our relationship. 26 00:01:10,370 --> 00:01:12,505 So let me again pay tribute to what we've been 27 00:01:12,505 --> 00:01:14,207 able to achieve, to what we discussed, to what we 28 00:01:14,207 --> 00:01:19,077 were able to bring about in difficult hours. 29 00:01:19,078 --> 00:01:22,982 It comes to mind, as I said, of those that had a 30 00:01:22,982 --> 00:01:25,051 bearing on the cooperation of our intelligence 31 00:01:25,051 --> 00:01:26,986 services, and I'm very grateful that Barack 32 00:01:26,986 --> 00:01:31,658 Obama, as President, very much put protection of 33 00:01:31,658 --> 00:01:34,027 privacy on the agenda today. 34 00:01:34,027 --> 00:01:36,529 Due to the fact of Islamist terrorism all 35 00:01:36,529 --> 00:01:40,767 over the world and the threat of IS, we recognize 36 00:01:40,767 --> 00:01:42,167 how important the cooperation with 37 00:01:42,168 --> 00:01:45,004 intelligence services, first and foremost, also 38 00:01:45,004 --> 00:01:47,373 with the services of the United States is. 39 00:01:47,373 --> 00:01:48,608 We need this cooperation. 40 00:01:48,608 --> 00:01:51,177 And we say this from a German perspective very 41 00:01:51,177 --> 00:01:52,612 clearly and unequivocally. 42 00:01:52,612 --> 00:01:54,714 Our bilateral relations are very good, 43 00:01:54,714 --> 00:01:56,349 they're very close. 44 00:01:56,349 --> 00:01:59,886 In the areas of business, of the economy, the United 45 00:01:59,886 --> 00:02:02,188 States of America last year were our most 46 00:02:02,188 --> 00:02:03,690 important trading partner. 47 00:02:03,690 --> 00:02:07,494 Both for Germany and the European Union, the 48 00:02:07,494 --> 00:02:10,263 European Union and the United States of America 49 00:02:10,263 --> 00:02:12,899 on the big, important economic areas for us, 50 00:02:12,899 --> 00:02:15,401 which is why I've always come out strongly in favor 51 00:02:15,401 --> 00:02:17,470 of concluding a trade agreement with the 52 00:02:17,470 --> 00:02:19,005 United States of America. 53 00:02:19,005 --> 00:02:22,007 We have made progress, quite a lot of progress. 54 00:02:22,008 --> 00:02:24,377 They cannot be stopped, those negotiations. 55 00:02:24,377 --> 00:02:27,413 But we'll keep what we have achieved so far, and 56 00:02:27,413 --> 00:02:30,850 I'm absolutely certain that one day we will come 57 00:02:30,850 --> 00:02:33,920 back to what we have achieved and build on it. 58 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:37,423 Because that is my deep conviction. 59 00:02:37,423 --> 00:02:39,759 Globalization -- and I think we share this 60 00:02:39,759 --> 00:02:42,060 conviction -- is that globalization needs to 61 00:02:42,061 --> 00:02:43,563 be shaped politically. 62 00:02:43,563 --> 00:02:45,565 It needs to be given a human face. 63 00:02:45,565 --> 00:02:48,768 But we cannot allow to fall back into 64 00:02:48,768 --> 00:02:50,270 pre-globalization times. 65 00:02:50,270 --> 00:02:52,472 So this conclusion of trade agreements that go 66 00:02:52,472 --> 00:02:55,942 beyond the scope of mere tariff agreements, customs 67 00:02:55,942 --> 00:02:58,344 agreements, are most important, and I'm very 68 00:02:58,344 --> 00:03:01,881 pleased that we were able to bring this to fruition 69 00:03:01,881 --> 00:03:03,349 between Canada and the EU. 70 00:03:03,349 --> 00:03:05,785 We made great progress, particularly if we look at 71 00:03:05,785 --> 00:03:08,321 one of the great global issues -- namely, 72 00:03:08,321 --> 00:03:09,989 climate protection. 73 00:03:09,989 --> 00:03:12,759 Without the engagement of the current administration 74 00:03:12,759 --> 00:03:16,228 under the leadership of Barack Obama, this Paris 75 00:03:16,229 --> 00:03:19,532 agreement would never have come about. 76 00:03:19,532 --> 00:03:22,335 There has been a change in the attitude in the United 77 00:03:22,335 --> 00:03:25,038 States towards that agreement, but there is 78 00:03:25,038 --> 00:03:27,340 also better cooperation with China. 79 00:03:27,340 --> 00:03:30,944 So last year, we were able to conclude a Paris 80 00:03:30,944 --> 00:03:33,745 climate agreement, which will lead the way for the 81 00:03:33,746 --> 00:03:35,915 rest of the world, which is ground-breaking. 82 00:03:35,915 --> 00:03:38,351 And together with the sustainable development 83 00:03:38,351 --> 00:03:42,322 goals of the agenda 2030 for the whole world, this 84 00:03:42,322 --> 00:03:46,092 is indeed a sea change, I think, that we see here, 85 00:03:46,092 --> 00:03:48,094 and, step-by-step, it will be implemented. 86 00:03:48,094 --> 00:03:50,096 There's another point that I wanted to mention here, 87 00:03:50,096 --> 00:03:51,531 particularly, the engagement and 88 00:03:51,531 --> 00:03:53,166 commitment to Africa. 89 00:03:53,166 --> 00:03:56,970 For us Europeans, Africa as a neighboring continent 90 00:03:56,970 --> 00:03:58,137 is of prime importance. 91 00:03:58,137 --> 00:04:01,140 The development of African countries is in our very 92 00:04:01,140 --> 00:04:02,041 own vested interest. 93 00:04:02,041 --> 00:04:04,844 We, as Germans, but also we, as members of the 94 00:04:04,844 --> 00:04:07,213 European Union, will have to deal with this. 95 00:04:07,213 --> 00:04:09,415 It will be at the very top of our agenda. 96 00:04:09,415 --> 00:04:11,884 There are a lot of areas where we cooperate -- the 97 00:04:11,884 --> 00:04:14,487 fight against ISIL, for example. 98 00:04:14,487 --> 00:04:17,957 Here, Germany was able to contribute to a certain 99 00:04:17,957 --> 00:04:20,526 extent, in certain areas. 100 00:04:20,526 --> 00:04:22,262 We'll continue to do so -- for example, in 101 00:04:22,262 --> 00:04:26,866 supporting the Peshmerga, in air policing. 102 00:04:26,866 --> 00:04:28,868 But we also have to acknowledge that the 103 00:04:28,868 --> 00:04:32,005 United States of America bear most of the burden. 104 00:04:32,005 --> 00:04:34,607 They bear the brunt of this responsibility. 105 00:04:34,607 --> 00:04:39,178 So I take your remarks very seriously, Barack, 106 00:04:39,178 --> 00:04:42,782 that the European Union as a whole, but also Germany, 107 00:04:42,782 --> 00:04:47,286 needs to recognize that this is our alliance, our 108 00:04:47,286 --> 00:04:49,555 common alliance, our transatlantic alliance, 109 00:04:49,555 --> 00:04:51,457 that we have to step up our engagement. 110 00:04:51,457 --> 00:04:55,028 Because, in the long run, we will not be allowed to 111 00:04:55,028 --> 00:04:57,964 accept this imbalance as regards the contributions 112 00:04:57,964 --> 00:04:59,165 we give to this alliance. 113 00:04:59,165 --> 00:05:00,933 And we have understood this message, and we have 114 00:05:00,933 --> 00:05:02,301 started to react. 115 00:05:02,301 --> 00:05:04,270 We have worked very closely together, for 116 00:05:04,270 --> 00:05:05,604 example, in Afghanistan. 117 00:05:05,605 --> 00:05:08,341 We're continuing to do so. 118 00:05:08,341 --> 00:05:11,044 I'm very pleased that this military engagement, 119 00:05:11,044 --> 00:05:14,113 together with a political road map that we've 120 00:05:14,113 --> 00:05:18,117 developed, we were able to continue. 121 00:05:18,117 --> 00:05:20,520 We want to bring about a political solution there. 122 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,289 We work very closely together on the issue of 123 00:05:24,290 --> 00:05:28,461 annexation of Crimea and Russia's attempt to 124 00:05:28,461 --> 00:05:31,698 actually conquer Ukraine. 125 00:05:31,698 --> 00:05:33,832 And actually they did so -- conquered part 126 00:05:33,833 --> 00:05:34,934 of the territory. 127 00:05:34,934 --> 00:05:36,502 We tried to come to a peaceful settlement 128 00:05:36,502 --> 00:05:37,303 here on this. 129 00:05:37,303 --> 00:05:40,073 So our interests are very much aligned. 130 00:05:40,073 --> 00:05:41,941 Our attempts of cooperation are 131 00:05:41,941 --> 00:05:42,642 very much aligned. 132 00:05:42,642 --> 00:05:44,711 We continue to build on what we've already 133 00:05:44,711 --> 00:05:48,214 achieved in these last months of the 134 00:05:48,214 --> 00:05:50,349 administration, and we will continue also with 135 00:05:50,349 --> 00:05:51,349 the new administration. 136 00:05:51,350 --> 00:05:54,353 This is the end of an eight-year cooperation 137 00:05:54,353 --> 00:05:56,489 that was very close, indeed. 138 00:05:56,489 --> 00:05:59,959 From a German point of view, German-American and 139 00:05:59,959 --> 00:06:02,929 European-American relations are a pillar of 140 00:06:02,929 --> 00:06:07,200 our foreign policy -- a foreign policy that is 141 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,235 obviously guided by interests, but that is 142 00:06:09,235 --> 00:06:12,572 very much also committed to shared values. 143 00:06:12,572 --> 00:06:16,242 So we have a platform -- democracy, freedom, 144 00:06:16,242 --> 00:06:18,277 respect of human rights -- that we would like to see 145 00:06:18,277 --> 00:06:20,847 respected all over the world, and also a 146 00:06:20,847 --> 00:06:22,748 peaceful world order. 147 00:06:22,749 --> 00:06:24,784 We have shared those values; we continue to 148 00:06:24,784 --> 00:06:25,852 share those values. 149 00:06:25,852 --> 00:06:27,520 And obviously we will continue to cooperate with 150 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:28,654 the new administration. 151 00:06:28,654 --> 00:06:31,858 But today, I think a word of gratitude is at hand. 152 00:06:31,858 --> 00:06:33,693 Thank you very much for this very close, very 153 00:06:33,693 --> 00:06:35,228 intensive cooperation. 154 00:06:35,228 --> 00:06:36,729 The President: Well, thank you so much. 155 00:06:36,729 --> 00:06:37,430 It is wonderful to be back in Berlin. 156 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:41,634 This is my sixth visit to Germany. 157 00:06:41,634 --> 00:06:44,504 It will not be my last. 158 00:06:44,504 --> 00:06:49,375 I have somehow continued to miss Oktoberfest. 159 00:06:49,375 --> 00:06:51,844 So that's probably something that is 160 00:06:51,844 --> 00:06:55,548 better for me to do as a former President rather 161 00:06:55,548 --> 00:06:59,152 than as President -- I'll have more fun. 162 00:06:59,152 --> 00:07:03,522 It's also wonderful to be back with my great friend 163 00:07:03,523 --> 00:07:07,794 and ally, Chancellor Merkel. 164 00:07:07,794 --> 00:07:10,496 As I reflect back over the past eight years, I could 165 00:07:10,496 --> 00:07:14,900 not ask for a steadier or a more reliable partner on 166 00:07:14,901 --> 00:07:17,236 the world stage, often through some very 167 00:07:17,236 --> 00:07:18,704 challenging times. 168 00:07:18,704 --> 00:07:21,007 So I want to thank you for your friendship, for your 169 00:07:21,007 --> 00:07:22,441 leadership, and your commitment 170 00:07:22,441 --> 00:07:24,544 to our alliance. 171 00:07:24,544 --> 00:07:29,649 And I want to thank the German people for the 172 00:07:29,649 --> 00:07:31,684 incredible partnership that our countries have 173 00:07:31,684 --> 00:07:35,421 been able to establish all these years. 174 00:07:35,421 --> 00:07:38,991 Last week marked the 27th anniversary of the fall of 175 00:07:38,991 --> 00:07:41,159 the Berlin Wall. 176 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,162 The United States was proud to stand with the 177 00:07:43,162 --> 00:07:48,534 people of Germany as this nation and this continent 178 00:07:48,534 --> 00:07:51,837 reunited, and rebuilt, and reached 179 00:07:51,838 --> 00:07:53,472 for a better future. 180 00:07:53,472 --> 00:07:55,907 And it's a reminder that the commitment of the 181 00:07:55,908 --> 00:07:58,945 United States to Europe is enduring and is rooted in 182 00:07:58,945 --> 00:08:02,048 the values we share -- values that Angela just 183 00:08:02,048 --> 00:08:04,750 mentioned: Our commitment to democracy; our 184 00:08:04,750 --> 00:08:06,953 commitment to rule of law; our commitment to the 185 00:08:06,953 --> 00:08:10,655 dignity of all people -- in our own countries and 186 00:08:10,656 --> 00:08:12,925 around the world. 187 00:08:12,925 --> 00:08:15,328 Our alliance with our NATO partners has been a 188 00:08:15,328 --> 00:08:16,361 cornerstone of U.S. 189 00:08:16,362 --> 00:08:19,165 foreign policy for nearly 70 years -- in good times 190 00:08:19,165 --> 00:08:22,201 and in bad, and through Presidents of both parties 191 00:08:22,201 --> 00:08:24,170 -- because the United States has a fundamental 192 00:08:24,170 --> 00:08:28,608 interest in Europe's stability and security. 193 00:08:28,608 --> 00:08:30,676 The commitment that Angela and I share to this 194 00:08:30,676 --> 00:08:33,545 guiding principle has formed the basis for our 195 00:08:33,546 --> 00:08:36,549 conversations this afternoon. 196 00:08:36,549 --> 00:08:38,451 We discussed our efforts to keep our countries 197 00:08:38,451 --> 00:08:41,721 competitive and to create jobs and opportunity on 198 00:08:41,721 --> 00:08:43,655 both sides of the Atlantic. 199 00:08:43,655 --> 00:08:47,926 The negotiations on agreements like T-TIP have 200 00:08:47,927 --> 00:08:52,164 been challenging, and obviously at a moment when 201 00:08:52,164 --> 00:08:55,034 there's concerns about globalization and the 202 00:08:55,034 --> 00:08:59,305 benefits that accrue to particular people, it is 203 00:08:59,305 --> 00:09:02,941 important that those negotiations and channels 204 00:09:02,942 --> 00:09:05,077 of communication remain. 205 00:09:05,077 --> 00:09:10,783 Because, ultimately, what we have shown over the 206 00:09:10,783 --> 00:09:16,923 last several decades is that markets and trade and 207 00:09:16,923 --> 00:09:21,193 commerce can create prosperity in all of our 208 00:09:21,193 --> 00:09:23,829 countries -- that it's not a win-lose situation, but 209 00:09:23,829 --> 00:09:26,598 it can be a win-win situation. 210 00:09:26,599 --> 00:09:29,068 And at a time when the European project is facing 211 00:09:29,068 --> 00:09:31,737 challenges, it's especially important to 212 00:09:31,737 --> 00:09:34,106 show the benefits of economic integration by 213 00:09:34,106 --> 00:09:37,343 continuing to invest in our people and working to 214 00:09:37,343 --> 00:09:39,411 reduce inequality, both within and 215 00:09:39,412 --> 00:09:42,081 across our countries. 216 00:09:42,081 --> 00:09:46,152 I reiterated our hope that negotiations over the 217 00:09:46,152 --> 00:09:48,587 United Kingdom's exit from the EU will be conducted 218 00:09:48,587 --> 00:09:51,891 in a smooth and orderly and transparent fashion, 219 00:09:51,891 --> 00:09:55,795 and preserve as closely as possible the economic and 220 00:09:55,795 --> 00:09:58,097 political and security relationships 221 00:09:58,097 --> 00:10:00,933 between the UK and EU. 222 00:10:00,933 --> 00:10:03,703 And I continue to believe what I said in Hannover -- 223 00:10:03,703 --> 00:10:05,404 that the EU remains one of the world's great 224 00:10:05,404 --> 00:10:10,242 political and economic achievements and that 225 00:10:10,242 --> 00:10:13,846 those achievements should not be taken for granted, 226 00:10:13,846 --> 00:10:17,350 that they need to be nurtured and cultivated 227 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:21,020 and protected and fought for. 228 00:10:21,020 --> 00:10:25,558 Because the achievements that we've seen on this 229 00:10:25,558 --> 00:10:30,329 continent, in contrast to a divided Europe of the 230 00:10:30,329 --> 00:10:37,936 previous century, are ones that remind us of how 231 00:10:37,937 --> 00:10:44,176 important it is that we work together, and that we 232 00:10:44,176 --> 00:10:48,581 are willing to uphold principles that have 233 00:10:48,581 --> 00:10:52,018 resulted in unprecedented prosperity and security 234 00:10:52,018 --> 00:10:54,887 throughout Europe and around the world. 235 00:10:54,887 --> 00:10:58,457 With the threat of climate change only becoming more 236 00:10:58,457 --> 00:10:59,658 urgent, Angela and I focused on the need for 237 00:10:59,658 --> 00:11:00,826 American and EU leadership 238 00:11:00,826 --> 00:11:03,429 to advance global cooperation. 239 00:11:03,429 --> 00:11:05,898 Both our nations were proud to join the Paris 240 00:11:05,898 --> 00:11:09,035 climate agreement, which the world should work to 241 00:11:09,035 --> 00:11:11,203 implement quickly. 242 00:11:11,203 --> 00:11:13,572 Continued global leadership on climate, in 243 00:11:13,572 --> 00:11:15,341 addition to increasing private investment in 244 00:11:15,341 --> 00:11:18,177 clean energy is going to be critical to meeting 245 00:11:18,177 --> 00:11:20,679 this growing threat. 246 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,481 Of course, we discussed our commitment to meeting 247 00:11:22,481 --> 00:11:24,717 shared security challenges -- from countering cyber 248 00:11:24,717 --> 00:11:27,752 threats to ensuring that Iran continues to live up 249 00:11:27,753 --> 00:11:31,223 to the terms of the Iran nuclear deal. 250 00:11:31,223 --> 00:11:34,794 I commended Angela for her leadership, along with 251 00:11:34,794 --> 00:11:37,228 President Hollande, in working to resolve the 252 00:11:37,229 --> 00:11:39,632 conflict in Ukraine. 253 00:11:39,632 --> 00:11:42,501 We continued to stand with the people of Ukraine and 254 00:11:42,501 --> 00:11:44,670 for the basic principle that nations have a right 255 00:11:44,670 --> 00:11:46,939 to determine their own destiny. 256 00:11:46,939 --> 00:11:49,241 And we discussed the importance of maintaining 257 00:11:49,241 --> 00:11:52,478 sanctions until Russia fully complies with the 258 00:11:52,478 --> 00:11:54,479 Minsk agreement. 259 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,450 As part of the coalition against ISIL, we are 260 00:11:57,450 --> 00:11:59,285 putting that terrorist network 261 00:11:59,285 --> 00:12:01,120 under tremendous pressure. 262 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,722 Here in Berlin, this week, coalition members are 263 00:12:03,722 --> 00:12:05,991 meeting to ensure we remain unified and focused 264 00:12:05,991 --> 00:12:09,061 on our mission to destroy ISIL. 265 00:12:09,061 --> 00:12:11,297 We are very grateful for the vital contributions 266 00:12:11,297 --> 00:12:13,432 Germany has made to this fight -- training local 267 00:12:13,432 --> 00:12:15,968 forces in Iraq, sharing intelligence, providing 268 00:12:15,968 --> 00:12:18,838 reconnaissance aircraft, including the recent 269 00:12:18,838 --> 00:12:22,007 deployment of additional NATO AWACS. 270 00:12:22,007 --> 00:12:25,010 And as Iraqi forces continue the liberation of 271 00:12:25,010 --> 00:12:28,314 Mosul, I am pleased that NATO will be meeting the 272 00:12:28,314 --> 00:12:30,449 commitment we made in Warsaw to begin training 273 00:12:30,449 --> 00:12:32,184 additional forces in Iraq, which 274 00:12:32,184 --> 00:12:34,019 started this January. 275 00:12:34,019 --> 00:12:36,455 We also continue to stand united with Germany and 276 00:12:36,455 --> 00:12:40,693 our NATO allies in our ongoing efforts to build 277 00:12:40,693 --> 00:12:43,262 peace and stability in Afghanistan. 278 00:12:43,262 --> 00:12:46,832 On Syria, it's clear that the indiscriminate attacks 279 00:12:46,832 --> 00:12:50,503 on civilians by the Assad regime and Russia will 280 00:12:50,503 --> 00:12:52,571 only worsen the humanitarian catastrophe, 281 00:12:52,571 --> 00:12:55,207 and that a negotiated end to the conflict is the 282 00:12:55,207 --> 00:12:59,678 only way to achieve lasting peace in Syria. 283 00:12:59,678 --> 00:13:03,015 Angela and I also agreed on the need for a 284 00:13:03,015 --> 00:13:05,284 comprehensive and humane response to the 285 00:13:05,284 --> 00:13:07,786 devastating humanitarian crisis in Syria and for 286 00:13:07,786 --> 00:13:10,256 the influx of migrants and refugees from 287 00:13:10,256 --> 00:13:13,391 around the world. 288 00:13:13,392 --> 00:13:14,326 We need to build on the 289 00:13:14,326 --> 00:13:15,928 progress achieved at the U.N. 290 00:13:15,928 --> 00:13:18,097 Refugee Summit, which yielded new commitments 291 00:13:18,097 --> 00:13:22,001 from some 50 nations and organizations. 292 00:13:22,001 --> 00:13:24,069 The United States is doing our part by increasing the 293 00:13:24,069 --> 00:13:26,171 number of refugees we resettle. 294 00:13:26,172 --> 00:13:30,042 And I want again to commend Angela and, more 295 00:13:30,042 --> 00:13:31,911 importantly, the German people for the 296 00:13:31,911 --> 00:13:35,113 extraordinary leadership and compassion that you 297 00:13:35,114 --> 00:13:36,815 have shown in the face of what I know is a very 298 00:13:36,815 --> 00:13:39,185 difficult challenge. 299 00:13:39,185 --> 00:13:41,219 You are not alone in trying to 300 00:13:41,220 --> 00:13:42,688 deal with this challenge. 301 00:13:42,688 --> 00:13:45,991 This is not an issue that any one country should 302 00:13:45,991 --> 00:13:52,564 bear but is in need of an international response. 303 00:13:52,565 --> 00:13:56,602 And I not only intend to make sure that we have put 304 00:13:56,602 --> 00:14:00,573 in place more robust support from the United 305 00:14:00,573 --> 00:14:03,876 States, but I'm hoping that that continues 306 00:14:03,876 --> 00:14:05,978 beyond my administration. 307 00:14:05,978 --> 00:14:09,814 On this final visit, I am reminded of the visit I 308 00:14:09,815 --> 00:14:12,318 made here before I became President. 309 00:14:12,318 --> 00:14:14,086 It was eight years ago. 310 00:14:14,086 --> 00:14:17,690 I had no gray hair. 311 00:14:17,690 --> 00:14:21,894 But I believe today what I said then: If 312 00:14:21,894 --> 00:14:24,363 you want a model for what is possible, if you want 313 00:14:24,363 --> 00:14:27,166 to see how to build a peaceful and prosperous 314 00:14:27,166 --> 00:14:30,202 and dynamic society, then look at Berlin 315 00:14:30,202 --> 00:14:31,971 and look at Germany. 316 00:14:31,971 --> 00:14:34,907 Look at Chancellor Merkel. 317 00:14:34,907 --> 00:14:38,310 Her personal story helps to tell the story of 318 00:14:38,310 --> 00:14:42,580 incredible achievement that the German people 319 00:14:42,581 --> 00:14:49,989 have embarked on and I think is something that 320 00:14:49,989 --> 00:14:53,225 you should be very proud of. 321 00:14:53,225 --> 00:14:56,061 It is not inevitable that we make progress; it 322 00:14:56,061 --> 00:14:59,064 requires hard work. 323 00:14:59,064 --> 00:15:06,271 Sometimes it may seem as if progress is stalled. 324 00:15:06,272 --> 00:15:11,710 But what the history of postwar Germany shows is 325 00:15:11,710 --> 00:15:18,183 that strength and determination and focus 326 00:15:18,183 --> 00:15:20,886 and adherence to the values that we care about 327 00:15:20,886 --> 00:15:23,589 will result in a better future for our children 328 00:15:23,589 --> 00:15:25,491 and our grandchildren. 329 00:15:25,491 --> 00:15:28,526 And on behalf of the American people, I want to 330 00:15:28,527 --> 00:15:32,064 thank the German people, I want to thank Chancellor 331 00:15:32,064 --> 00:15:36,068 Merkel, for your deep friendship and your 332 00:15:36,068 --> 00:15:38,569 steadfast partnership. 333 00:15:38,570 --> 00:15:45,711 Vielen dank. 334 00:15:45,711 --> 00:15:50,716 Mr. Earnest: Jeff Mason from Reuters. 335 00:15:50,716 --> 00:15:52,351 Jeff Mason: Thank you very much. 336 00:15:52,351 --> 00:15:55,020 Mr. President, you and the President-elect have very 337 00:15:55,020 --> 00:15:57,055 different views on Russia. 338 00:15:57,056 --> 00:15:59,325 After your meeting with him last week, can you 339 00:15:59,325 --> 00:16:01,727 assure Chancellor Merkel that a Trump 340 00:16:01,727 --> 00:16:04,228 administration would also support strong sanctions 341 00:16:04,229 --> 00:16:05,898 against Moscow? 342 00:16:05,898 --> 00:16:09,168 Similarly, what have you told President Putin about 343 00:16:09,168 --> 00:16:10,102 Russia's influence 344 00:16:10,102 --> 00:16:11,337 on the U.S. election? 345 00:16:11,337 --> 00:16:13,706 And how would you advise European countries to deal 346 00:16:13,706 --> 00:16:15,574 with the same threat? 347 00:16:15,574 --> 00:16:18,242 And lastly, if I may, would you like to see your 348 00:16:18,243 --> 00:16:19,378 friend, Chancellor Merkel, 349 00:16:19,378 --> 00:16:21,480 run for reelection next year? 350 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,284 (Speaks German.) 351 00:16:25,284 --> 00:16:26,385 The President: Uh-oh. 352 00:16:26,385 --> 00:16:27,720 Pull out your German, showing off. 353 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,255 (Laughter) 354 00:16:30,255 --> 00:16:32,290 Jeff Mason: (As interpreted.) Has the 355 00:16:32,291 --> 00:16:36,962 American President calmed you in the sense that on 356 00:16:36,962 --> 00:16:39,131 the policy of his successor on climate 357 00:16:39,131 --> 00:16:42,968 change and Russia -- he has allayed your fears? 358 00:16:42,968 --> 00:16:46,738 And are you concerned that the common European policy 359 00:16:46,739 --> 00:16:48,173 towards Russia will collapse? 360 00:16:48,173 --> 00:16:52,778 And after the election of Mr. Trump, would you -- as 361 00:16:52,778 --> 00:16:56,115 a sign of civility, wouldn't you actually have 362 00:16:56,115 --> 00:16:58,283 to declare that you are going to be 363 00:16:58,283 --> 00:17:01,820 a candidate again? 364 00:17:01,820 --> 00:17:05,790 The President: Well, I try to make it a rule not to 365 00:17:05,790 --> 00:17:10,428 meddle in other people's politics. 366 00:17:10,429 --> 00:17:14,466 All I can say is that Chancellor Merkel has been 367 00:17:14,465 --> 00:17:17,335 an outstanding partner. 368 00:17:17,336 --> 00:17:29,048 And Chancellor Merkel is perhaps the only leader 369 00:17:29,048 --> 00:17:35,421 left among our closest allies that was there when 370 00:17:35,421 --> 00:17:40,626 I arrived, so, in some ways, we are now the 371 00:17:40,626 --> 00:17:44,562 veterans of many challenges over 372 00:17:44,563 --> 00:17:48,066 the last eight years. 373 00:17:48,066 --> 00:17:50,569 And although we have not always been in sync on 374 00:17:50,569 --> 00:17:54,473 every issue, in terms of our core values, in terms 375 00:17:54,473 --> 00:18:00,245 of her integrity, her truthfulness, her 376 00:18:00,245 --> 00:18:03,581 thoughtfulness, her doing her homework, knowing her 377 00:18:03,582 --> 00:18:08,754 facts, her commitment to looking out for the 378 00:18:08,754 --> 00:18:11,523 interests of the German people first, but 379 00:18:11,523 --> 00:18:16,462 recognizing that part of good leadership on behalf 380 00:18:16,462 --> 00:18:19,097 of the nation requires engaging the world as a 381 00:18:19,097 --> 00:18:23,702 whole and participating effectively in 382 00:18:23,702 --> 00:18:28,140 multilateral institutions, I think 383 00:18:28,140 --> 00:18:29,942 she's been outstanding. 384 00:18:29,942 --> 00:18:34,913 So it's up to her whether she wants to stand again, 385 00:18:34,913 --> 00:18:36,248 and then ultimately it will be up to the German 386 00:18:36,248 --> 00:18:43,055 people to decide what the future holds. 387 00:18:43,055 --> 00:18:48,026 If I were here and I were German, and I had a vote, 388 00:18:48,026 --> 00:18:52,030 I might support her. 389 00:18:52,030 --> 00:18:53,932 But I don't know whether that 390 00:18:53,932 --> 00:18:56,502 hurts or helps. 391 00:18:56,502 --> 00:19:04,842 (Laughter.) With respect to Russia, my principal 392 00:19:04,843 --> 00:19:10,649 approach to Russia has been constant since I 393 00:19:10,649 --> 00:19:13,784 first came into office. 394 00:19:13,785 --> 00:19:16,688 Russia is an important country. 395 00:19:16,688 --> 00:19:24,930 It is a military superpower. 396 00:19:24,930 --> 00:19:31,303 It has influence in the region and it has 397 00:19:31,303 --> 00:19:34,606 influence around the world. 398 00:19:34,606 --> 00:19:38,343 And in order for us to solve many big problems 399 00:19:38,343 --> 00:19:41,680 around the world, it is in our interest to work with 400 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:47,052 Russia and obtain their cooperation. 401 00:19:47,052 --> 00:19:50,856 I think we should all hope for a Russia that is 402 00:19:50,856 --> 00:19:55,027 successful, where its people are employed and 403 00:19:55,027 --> 00:20:04,069 the economy is growing, and they are having good 404 00:20:04,069 --> 00:20:07,839 relationships with their neighbors, and 405 00:20:07,839 --> 00:20:09,441 participating constructively on big 406 00:20:09,441 --> 00:20:11,710 issues like climate change. 407 00:20:11,710 --> 00:20:15,180 So I've sought a constructive relationship 408 00:20:15,180 --> 00:20:17,449 with Russia, but what I have also been is 409 00:20:17,449 --> 00:20:21,119 realistic in recognizing that there are some 410 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:27,759 significant differences in how Russia views the world 411 00:20:27,759 --> 00:20:32,130 and how we view the world. 412 00:20:32,130 --> 00:20:34,132 The values that we talked about -- the values of 413 00:20:34,132 --> 00:20:39,838 democracy, and free speech, and international 414 00:20:39,838 --> 00:20:46,043 norms, and rule of law, respecting the ability of 415 00:20:46,044 --> 00:20:49,715 other countries to determine their own 416 00:20:49,715 --> 00:20:52,351 destiny and preserve their sovereignty and 417 00:20:52,351 --> 00:20:57,022 territorial integrity -- those things are not 418 00:20:57,022 --> 00:21:01,059 something that we can set aside. 419 00:21:01,059 --> 00:21:07,199 And so on issues like Ukraine, on issues like 420 00:21:07,199 --> 00:21:12,070 Syria, we've had very significant differences. 421 00:21:12,070 --> 00:21:20,212 And my hope is that the President-elect coming in 422 00:21:20,212 --> 00:21:25,517 takes a similarly constructive approach, 423 00:21:25,517 --> 00:21:28,854 finding areas where we can cooperate with Russia 424 00:21:28,854 --> 00:21:34,593 where our values and interests align, but that 425 00:21:34,593 --> 00:21:36,828 the President-elect also is willing to stand up to 426 00:21:36,828 --> 00:21:41,066 Russia where they are deviating from our values 427 00:21:41,066 --> 00:21:44,670 and international norms. 428 00:21:44,670 --> 00:21:50,042 And I don't expect that the President-elect will 429 00:21:50,042 --> 00:21:56,782 follow exactly our blueprint or our approach, 430 00:21:56,782 --> 00:22:03,321 but my hope is, is that he does not simply take a 431 00:22:03,321 --> 00:22:07,525 realpolitik approach and suggest that if we just 432 00:22:07,526 --> 00:22:11,663 cut some deals with Russia, even if it hurts 433 00:22:11,663 --> 00:22:13,865 people, or even if it violates international 434 00:22:13,865 --> 00:22:16,668 norms, or even if it leaves smaller countries 435 00:22:16,668 --> 00:22:20,639 vulnerable or creates long-term problems in 436 00:22:20,639 --> 00:22:25,811 regions like Syria -- that we just do whatever is 437 00:22:25,811 --> 00:22:28,714 convenient at the time. 438 00:22:28,714 --> 00:22:32,884 And that will be something that I think we'll learn 439 00:22:32,884 --> 00:22:35,721 more about as the President-elect puts his 440 00:22:35,721 --> 00:22:37,856 team together. 441 00:22:37,856 --> 00:22:41,326 I am encouraged by the President-elect's 442 00:22:41,326 --> 00:22:45,464 insistence that NATO is a commitment 443 00:22:45,464 --> 00:22:48,366 that does not change. 444 00:22:48,366 --> 00:22:54,172 And his full commitment to NATO as the foundation for 445 00:22:54,172 --> 00:22:58,577 our international security I think is very important. 446 00:22:58,577 --> 00:23:00,712 And finally, in terms of my conversations with 447 00:23:00,712 --> 00:23:05,283 President Putin, these are conversations that took 448 00:23:05,283 --> 00:23:09,154 place before the election. 449 00:23:09,154 --> 00:23:13,492 As I indicated, there has been very clear proof that 450 00:23:13,492 --> 00:23:18,196 they have engaged in cyberattacks. 451 00:23:18,196 --> 00:23:20,698 This isn't new. 452 00:23:20,699 --> 00:23:24,269 It's not unique to Russia. 453 00:23:24,269 --> 00:23:28,740 There are a number of states where we've seen 454 00:23:28,740 --> 00:23:36,882 low-level cyberattacks and industrial espionage and 455 00:23:36,882 --> 00:23:39,117 other behavior that we think should 456 00:23:39,117 --> 00:23:41,453 be out of bounds. 457 00:23:41,453 --> 00:23:46,825 And I delivered a clear and forceful message that, 458 00:23:46,825 --> 00:23:50,929 though we recognize Russia's 459 00:23:50,929 --> 00:23:55,367 intelligence-gathering will sometimes take place 460 00:23:55,367 --> 00:23:57,969 even if we don't like it, there's a difference 461 00:23:57,969 --> 00:24:02,440 between that and them either meddling with 462 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,544 elections or going after private organizations or 463 00:24:05,544 --> 00:24:10,549 commercial entities, and that we're monitoring it 464 00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:13,585 carefully and we will respond appropriately if 465 00:24:13,585 --> 00:24:17,322 and when we see this happening. 466 00:24:17,322 --> 00:24:21,193 I do think that this whole area of cyber is something 467 00:24:21,193 --> 00:24:27,799 that, at an international level, we have to work on 468 00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:32,204 and develop frameworks and international norms so 469 00:24:32,204 --> 00:24:41,213 that we don't see a cyber arms race. 470 00:24:41,213 --> 00:24:44,115 A lot of countries have advanced capabilities, and 471 00:24:44,115 --> 00:24:48,587 given the vulnerabilities of our infrastructure and 472 00:24:48,587 --> 00:24:55,160 our economies to digital platforms, we have to be 473 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,865 careful in making sure that this doesn't become a 474 00:24:59,865 --> 00:25:06,238 lawless, low-level battlefield. 475 00:25:06,238 --> 00:25:08,573 And we've started trying to put together some 476 00:25:08,573 --> 00:25:12,410 principles that were adopted in the G20, the 477 00:25:12,410 --> 00:25:15,714 G7, and at the U.N. 478 00:25:15,714 --> 00:25:18,450 levels, but a lot more work remains to be 479 00:25:18,450 --> 00:25:24,222 done on that front. 480 00:25:24,222 --> 00:25:26,892 Chancellor Merkel: (As interpreted.) Well, allow 481 00:25:26,892 --> 00:25:29,094 me if I may to underline, first of all, that I'm 482 00:25:29,094 --> 00:25:33,031 very much impressed that, in spite of a very tough 483 00:25:33,031 --> 00:25:36,268 election campaign, this transition period in the 484 00:25:36,268 --> 00:25:40,906 United States of America, because it follows 485 00:25:40,906 --> 00:25:44,609 democratic principles, is working smoothly. 486 00:25:44,609 --> 00:25:46,678 Because this is all about the American people, it's 487 00:25:46,678 --> 00:25:49,547 about the destiny of the American people, the 488 00:25:49,547 --> 00:25:53,785 outgoing administration is sharing its knowledge, its 489 00:25:53,785 --> 00:25:56,554 expertise with the incoming administration. 490 00:25:56,554 --> 00:26:00,025 And this to us is a sign of encouragement to 491 00:26:00,025 --> 00:26:02,627 continue the good cooperation that we have 492 00:26:02,627 --> 00:26:05,196 built between the United States of America and the 493 00:26:05,196 --> 00:26:06,898 Federal Republic of Germany. 494 00:26:06,898 --> 00:26:09,033 And that is in our mutual interest. 495 00:26:09,034 --> 00:26:10,368 So we will continue this. 496 00:26:10,368 --> 00:26:13,938 I will continue this with -- I approach this with an 497 00:26:13,939 --> 00:26:17,042 open mind, and I'll do it on the basis of a deep 498 00:26:17,042 --> 00:26:18,208 conviction with 499 00:26:18,209 --> 00:26:20,812 President-elect Donald Trump. 500 00:26:20,812 --> 00:26:23,348 Secondly, on Russia. 501 00:26:23,348 --> 00:26:27,719 I can only repeat what the President said previously. 502 00:26:27,719 --> 00:26:28,987 This is all about 503 00:26:28,987 --> 00:26:30,789 respecting certain principles. 504 00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:32,857 And I'm saying this from a European vantage point, 505 00:26:32,857 --> 00:26:35,927 from a German vantage point. 506 00:26:35,927 --> 00:26:39,464 So the fact that for over 70 years, we have been 507 00:26:39,464 --> 00:26:43,201 able to enjoy peace, to live in peace very much 508 00:26:43,201 --> 00:26:46,638 depends on territorial integrity and sovereignty 509 00:26:46,638 --> 00:26:50,207 of each and every European country being respected. 510 00:26:50,208 --> 00:26:54,379 In view of the European history, the reverse would 511 00:26:54,379 --> 00:26:58,216 be the start of a very bitter road down a 512 00:26:58,216 --> 00:27:00,885 slippery slope, and we have to 513 00:27:00,885 --> 00:27:02,520 nip this in the bud. 514 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,823 We have to stand up resolutely against any 515 00:27:04,823 --> 00:27:05,657 such attempts. 516 00:27:05,657 --> 00:27:07,024 But we are pinning our 517 00:27:07,025 --> 00:27:08,827 hopes on political efforts. 518 00:27:08,827 --> 00:27:11,162 This is why we launched the Normandy Process, in 519 00:27:11,162 --> 00:27:12,564 close coordination with the 520 00:27:12,564 --> 00:27:14,165 United States of America. 521 00:27:14,165 --> 00:27:16,835 And particularly from a German perspective, from 522 00:27:16,835 --> 00:27:19,971 the European perspective, I can only say again, 523 00:27:19,971 --> 00:27:21,740 Russia is our neighbor. 524 00:27:21,740 --> 00:27:25,977 Just look at Poland -- the sort of European 525 00:27:25,977 --> 00:27:28,146 perspective this has. 526 00:27:28,146 --> 00:27:30,415 So we have an interest in seeing this relationship 527 00:27:30,415 --> 00:27:31,616 be a good one. 528 00:27:31,616 --> 00:27:33,618 We have a lot of historical ties, of 529 00:27:33,618 --> 00:27:35,320 course, a history that we share. 530 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,590 But this mustn't keep us from, wherever we feel 531 00:27:38,590 --> 00:27:40,958 there are very grave differences of opinion, to 532 00:27:40,959 --> 00:27:44,596 raise them with them, but, again, with political 533 00:27:44,596 --> 00:27:47,198 means and always trying to work 534 00:27:47,198 --> 00:27:48,600 for political settlements. 535 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,002 And this what I'm going to continue to work on with 536 00:27:51,002 --> 00:27:51,803 all my heart. 537 00:27:51,803 --> 00:27:54,672 So on the question whether I will put up a candidacy, 538 00:27:54,672 --> 00:27:57,575 I will do this at the appropriate time, and this 539 00:27:57,575 --> 00:28:06,751 is not today. 540 00:28:06,751 --> 00:28:11,923 The Press: Mr. President, your country is divided. 541 00:28:11,923 --> 00:28:14,059 You, as first black President, as first 542 00:28:14,059 --> 00:28:16,461 African American President, who did so many 543 00:28:16,461 --> 00:28:18,997 things so differently, who raised so much hope all 544 00:28:18,997 --> 00:28:21,232 over the world -- do you think that you have, 545 00:28:21,232 --> 00:28:24,601 perhaps in a way, put too much of a strain, maybe 546 00:28:24,602 --> 00:28:26,704 too much of demands on the Americans? 547 00:28:26,704 --> 00:28:29,573 And to what extent do you think your successor may 548 00:28:29,574 --> 00:28:31,676 well be a threat to the rest of the 549 00:28:31,676 --> 00:28:33,078 world, to the security? 550 00:28:33,078 --> 00:28:35,547 Because there are, after all, nuclear weapons here 551 00:28:35,547 --> 00:28:38,216 in Germany to which he has access now. 552 00:28:38,216 --> 00:28:41,619 Will you want to now, Madam Chancellor, see to 553 00:28:41,619 --> 00:28:45,423 it under the your administration try to make 554 00:28:45,423 --> 00:28:47,659 Europe and Germany less dependent 555 00:28:47,659 --> 00:28:48,693 on the United States? 556 00:28:48,693 --> 00:28:51,062 And are you afraid of this wave of populism hitting 557 00:28:51,062 --> 00:28:52,796 Germany, hitting Europe, as well? 558 00:28:52,797 --> 00:28:54,599 And a personal question. 559 00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:56,701 President Obama paid tribute to you as an 560 00:28:56,701 --> 00:28:58,136 outstanding politician. 561 00:28:58,136 --> 00:29:00,939 You are somewhat more sober when you 562 00:29:00,939 --> 00:29:03,475 describe your partner. 563 00:29:03,475 --> 00:29:05,310 How difficult is it for you to take leave today of 564 00:29:05,310 --> 00:29:12,617 your partner? 565 00:29:12,617 --> 00:29:14,853 The President: My guiding principle as President has 566 00:29:14,853 --> 00:29:23,061 been to try to do the right thing even when it's 567 00:29:23,061 --> 00:29:28,933 not politically convenient; to look at 568 00:29:28,933 --> 00:29:33,838 long term trends in our economy, in our society, 569 00:29:33,838 --> 00:29:40,145 in the international sphere, and, using my best 570 00:29:40,145 --> 00:29:44,949 judgment, shape policies that will serve the 571 00:29:44,949 --> 00:29:47,952 American people, keep them safe, keep our economy 572 00:29:47,952 --> 00:29:56,027 growing, put people back to work, and best ensure 573 00:29:56,027 --> 00:29:57,162 peace, cooperation, and 574 00:29:57,162 --> 00:30:00,565 stability around the world. 575 00:30:00,565 --> 00:30:07,672 And based on current surveys of public opinion 576 00:30:07,672 --> 00:30:11,276 in the United States, it turns out that the 577 00:30:11,276 --> 00:30:13,845 majority of Americans think I've done a pretty 578 00:30:13,845 --> 00:30:18,917 good job, that we haven't, in fact, gone too fast, as 579 00:30:18,917 --> 00:30:22,887 you describe it. 580 00:30:22,887 --> 00:30:26,591 But what is certainly true is that the American 581 00:30:26,591 --> 00:30:29,226 people -- just like the German people, just like 582 00:30:29,227 --> 00:30:34,399 the British, and people around the world -- are 583 00:30:34,399 --> 00:30:38,035 seeing extraordinarily rapid change. 584 00:30:38,036 --> 00:30:39,470 The world is shrinking. 585 00:30:39,470 --> 00:30:46,010 Economies have become much more integrated, and 586 00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:50,448 demographics are shifting. 587 00:30:50,448 --> 00:30:53,351 Because of the Internet and communications, the 588 00:30:53,351 --> 00:30:56,654 clash of cultures is much more direct. 589 00:30:56,654 --> 00:31:01,793 People feel, I think, less certain about their 590 00:31:01,793 --> 00:31:09,333 identity, less certain about economic security. 591 00:31:09,334 --> 00:31:13,705 They're looking for some means of control. 592 00:31:13,705 --> 00:31:20,611 And what that means is, is that the politics in all 593 00:31:20,612 --> 00:31:32,290 of our countries is going to require us to manage 594 00:31:32,290 --> 00:31:37,128 technology and global integration and all these 595 00:31:37,128 --> 00:31:41,666 demographic shifts in a way that makes people feel 596 00:31:41,666 --> 00:31:47,171 more control, that gives them more confidence in 597 00:31:47,171 --> 00:31:52,243 their future, but does not resort to simplistic 598 00:31:52,243 --> 00:32:01,052 answers or divisions of race or tribe, or the 599 00:32:01,052 --> 00:32:04,621 crude nationalism, which I think can be contrasted to 600 00:32:04,622 --> 00:32:06,557 the pride of patriotism that we all feel about our 601 00:32:06,557 --> 00:32:10,695 respective countries. 602 00:32:10,695 --> 00:32:17,302 And I think that our politics everywhere are 603 00:32:17,302 --> 00:32:22,106 going to be going through this bumpy phase. 604 00:32:22,106 --> 00:32:25,376 But as long as we stay true to our democratic 605 00:32:25,376 --> 00:32:31,983 principles, as long as elections have integrity, 606 00:32:31,983 --> 00:32:36,020 as long as we respect freedom of speech, freedom 607 00:32:36,020 --> 00:32:40,258 of religion, as long as there are checks and 608 00:32:40,258 --> 00:32:44,595 balances in our governments so that the 609 00:32:44,595 --> 00:32:48,900 people have the ability to not just make judgments 610 00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:51,302 about how well government is serving them but also 611 00:32:51,302 --> 00:32:53,504 change governments if they're not serving them 612 00:32:53,504 --> 00:32:56,707 well -- then I have confidence that over the 613 00:32:56,708 --> 00:33:06,951 long term, progress will continue. 614 00:33:06,951 --> 00:33:09,687 And I think it's especially important for 615 00:33:09,687 --> 00:33:18,795 those of us who believe in a world where we're 616 00:33:18,796 --> 00:33:25,737 interdependent, that believes in mutual 617 00:33:25,737 --> 00:33:28,673 interests and mutual respect between nations, 618 00:33:28,673 --> 00:33:31,909 it's particularly important that we reach 619 00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:35,646 out to everybody in our countries -- those who 620 00:33:35,646 --> 00:33:38,816 feel disaffected, those who feel left behind by 621 00:33:38,816 --> 00:33:41,686 globalization -- and address their concerns in 622 00:33:41,686 --> 00:33:45,656 constructive ways, as opposed to more 623 00:33:45,656 --> 00:33:47,191 destructive ways. 624 00:33:47,191 --> 00:33:48,760 And I think that can be done. 625 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,195 But it's hard. 626 00:33:51,195 --> 00:33:52,663 It requires creativity. 627 00:33:52,663 --> 00:33:55,867 It requires effective communications. 628 00:33:55,867 --> 00:33:59,771 Part of what's changed in politics is social media 629 00:33:59,771 --> 00:34:02,139 and how people are receiving information. 630 00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:09,781 It's easier to make negative attacks and 631 00:34:09,781 --> 00:34:12,150 simplistic slogans than it is to 632 00:34:12,150 --> 00:34:17,255 communicate complex policies. 633 00:34:17,255 --> 00:34:18,856 But we'll figure it out. 634 00:34:18,856 --> 00:34:25,930 So, ultimately, I remain optimistic about not just 635 00:34:25,929 --> 00:34:29,000 America's future, but the direction that the 636 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,201 world is going in. 637 00:34:30,201 --> 00:34:32,069 And part of what makes me most optimistic is if you 638 00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:37,041 look at the attitudes of young people. 639 00:34:37,041 --> 00:34:41,245 Across the board, young people are much more 640 00:34:41,245 --> 00:34:45,315 comfortable with respecting differences. 641 00:34:45,315 --> 00:34:45,783 They are much 642 00:34:45,783 --> 00:34:52,989 more comfortable with diversity. 643 00:34:52,989 --> 00:34:58,796 They are much less likely to express attitudes that 644 00:34:58,796 --> 00:35:02,366 divide us between "us" and "them." 645 00:35:02,366 --> 00:35:09,207 They see themselves as part of a global economy 646 00:35:09,207 --> 00:35:17,147 that they can navigate successfully, and are 647 00:35:17,148 --> 00:35:18,950 showing enormous creativity and 648 00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:22,553 entrepreneurship and working with each other 649 00:35:22,553 --> 00:35:25,756 across borders. 650 00:35:25,756 --> 00:35:29,026 So that's where the future is. 651 00:35:29,026 --> 00:35:32,163 But we have to create that bridge to the future. 652 00:35:32,163 --> 00:35:34,265 And that means making sure we're paying attention to 653 00:35:34,265 --> 00:35:39,270 the wages of workers in countries and making sure 654 00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:42,640 that we're investing in their education and their 655 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,877 skills, that we are growing the economy in 656 00:35:46,878 --> 00:35:49,847 smart ways and rebuilding our infrastructure and 657 00:35:49,847 --> 00:35:57,288 investing in science and development, and that we 658 00:35:57,288 --> 00:36:00,124 stay true to those values that helped get us here. 659 00:36:00,124 --> 00:36:08,899 And if we do that, I think we're going to be fine. 660 00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:10,668 Chancellor Merkel: (As interpreted.) On the issue 661 00:36:10,668 --> 00:36:15,306 first of independence of Germany, after the time of 662 00:36:15,306 --> 00:36:20,144 national socialism, Germany has been given an 663 00:36:20,144 --> 00:36:23,814 enormous amount of help, particularly and also from 664 00:36:23,814 --> 00:36:25,750 the United States of America. 665 00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:31,856 The fact that we were able to enjoy German 666 00:36:31,856 --> 00:36:35,993 unification is due first and foremost to the help 667 00:36:35,993 --> 00:36:37,194 of the United States of America. 668 00:36:37,194 --> 00:36:43,134 And ever since Germany was able to regain its unity, 669 00:36:43,134 --> 00:36:46,604 it is in an even stronger position to give its 670 00:36:46,604 --> 00:36:50,207 contribution to upholding this order to which we 671 00:36:50,207 --> 00:36:53,109 feel committed, and for which particularly people 672 00:36:53,110 --> 00:36:56,247 in the German Democratic Republic stood out there 673 00:36:56,247 --> 00:36:59,850 in the streets to keep this up, to maintain this 674 00:36:59,850 --> 00:37:02,553 order, particularly also in our country. 675 00:37:02,553 --> 00:37:08,692 Now, we're trying to do more than it used to be 26 676 00:37:08,693 --> 00:37:09,627 years ago. 677 00:37:09,627 --> 00:37:12,330 And there are a number of other areas where we have 678 00:37:12,330 --> 00:37:14,765 to also make a stronger contribution. 679 00:37:14,765 --> 00:37:17,667 We will all have to do more 680 00:37:17,668 --> 00:37:21,372 in development cooperation. 681 00:37:21,372 --> 00:37:25,710 It's important that these disparities in the living 682 00:37:25,710 --> 00:37:28,479 conditions cannot be allowed in this digital 683 00:37:28,479 --> 00:37:31,147 period to be too marked. 684 00:37:31,148 --> 00:37:33,718 Each and every one must be given an opportunity to 685 00:37:33,718 --> 00:37:36,921 participate -- which is why Germany's fate, in 686 00:37:36,921 --> 00:37:40,491 many ways, depends on the firmness of its alliance 687 00:37:40,491 --> 00:37:42,560 with NATO, with the European Union. 688 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,662 We cannot stand alone with 80 million people. 689 00:37:44,662 --> 00:37:47,365 In this world of today, you cannot, when you just 690 00:37:47,365 --> 00:37:50,067 stand on your own, achieve much -- even though you 691 00:37:50,067 --> 00:37:52,637 may be economically strong. 692 00:37:52,637 --> 00:37:55,506 So alliances are part of our destiny as a nation, 693 00:37:55,506 --> 00:37:57,408 part of our future as a nation. 694 00:37:57,408 --> 00:37:59,743 And this is what guides me in my policy, what guides 695 00:37:59,744 --> 00:38:01,946 my government as a whole. 696 00:38:01,946 --> 00:38:05,816 Secondly, this wave of populism that seems to 697 00:38:05,816 --> 00:38:08,819 engulf us, well, look at -- and it seems, in your 698 00:38:08,819 --> 00:38:10,554 words, to come from the United States. 699 00:38:10,554 --> 00:38:14,759 Look at the European Parliament. 700 00:38:14,759 --> 00:38:17,662 There are a lot of people who are looking for 701 00:38:17,662 --> 00:38:22,767 simplistic solutions, who are sort of preaching 702 00:38:22,767 --> 00:38:29,240 policies of -- well, very unfriendly policies. 703 00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:30,674 We have them here in Europe, too. 704 00:38:30,675 --> 00:38:32,977 We have them here in Germany, too. 705 00:38:32,977 --> 00:38:35,279 And to take up where the President left off, 706 00:38:35,279 --> 00:38:39,850 digitization is, in a way, a disruptive force, a 707 00:38:39,850 --> 00:38:43,187 disruptive technological force that brings about 708 00:38:43,187 --> 00:38:45,122 deep-seated change, transformation 709 00:38:45,122 --> 00:38:45,890 of a society. 710 00:38:45,890 --> 00:38:49,627 Look at the history of the printing press -- when 711 00:38:49,627 --> 00:38:50,628 this was invented, what sort of 712 00:38:50,628 --> 00:38:51,962 consequences this had. 713 00:38:51,962 --> 00:38:54,165 Or industrialization -- what sort of consequences 714 00:38:54,165 --> 00:38:55,433 that had. 715 00:38:55,433 --> 00:38:58,803 Very often it led to enormous transformational 716 00:38:58,803 --> 00:39:01,071 processes within individual societies, and 717 00:39:01,072 --> 00:39:04,508 it took a while until societies learned how to 718 00:39:04,508 --> 00:39:08,678 find the right kind of policies to contain this 719 00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:10,381 and to manage and steer this. 720 00:39:10,381 --> 00:39:13,484 And I think we live in a period of profound 721 00:39:13,484 --> 00:39:16,220 transformation, very similar to when we had a 722 00:39:16,220 --> 00:39:18,488 translation from agricultural societies to 723 00:39:18,489 --> 00:39:19,990 industrial societies. 724 00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:24,462 Now, when we, for example, see shifts of huge 725 00:39:24,462 --> 00:39:28,099 production lines from certain areas to other 726 00:39:28,099 --> 00:39:30,868 countries, people tend to ask the question, where's 727 00:39:30,868 --> 00:39:32,536 my place in this modern world? 728 00:39:32,536 --> 00:39:34,839 We have this here, this tendency in our country. 729 00:39:34,839 --> 00:39:36,340 We have it in other countries. 730 00:39:36,340 --> 00:39:39,510 Trying to keep a society together, trying to keep 731 00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:42,012 the older and the younger people together, trying to 732 00:39:42,012 --> 00:39:44,148 keep those who live in rural areas together with 733 00:39:44,148 --> 00:39:47,718 those who live in cities is one of the most 734 00:39:47,718 --> 00:39:50,221 important and most noble tasks of politicians these 735 00:39:50,221 --> 00:39:52,656 days -- trying to see to it that each and every one 736 00:39:52,656 --> 00:39:54,158 can find his or her place. 737 00:39:54,158 --> 00:39:58,162 But those that belong purportedly to certain 738 00:39:58,162 --> 00:40:01,198 groups say, we are the people, and not the others 739 00:40:01,198 --> 00:40:05,368 -- that is something that we cannot allow to happen. 740 00:40:05,369 --> 00:40:09,340 That is something that I think, at the time when we 741 00:40:09,340 --> 00:40:14,044 had this in the GDR, when the people stood in the 742 00:40:14,044 --> 00:40:16,080 street and said, we are the people -- that was 743 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,715 something that filled me with great joy. 744 00:40:17,715 --> 00:40:21,185 But the fact that this people have hijacked it is 745 00:40:21,185 --> 00:40:23,154 not something that fills me with great joy. 746 00:40:23,154 --> 00:40:25,823 We have to find new ways of addressing people, new 747 00:40:25,823 --> 00:40:28,292 ways of getting into contact with people. 748 00:40:28,292 --> 00:40:31,095 But I'm optimistic that we'll be able to do so. 749 00:40:31,095 --> 00:40:35,765 Now, taking leave from my partner and friend, well, 750 00:40:35,766 --> 00:40:37,067 yes, it is hard. 751 00:40:37,067 --> 00:40:39,637 If you've worked together with somebody very well, 752 00:40:39,637 --> 00:40:42,239 leave-taking is very difficult. 753 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,574 But we are politicians. 754 00:40:43,574 --> 00:40:47,478 We all know that democracy lives off change. 755 00:40:47,478 --> 00:40:50,848 So in the United States of America, the Constitution 756 00:40:50,848 --> 00:40:52,817 has very clear stipulations on this. 757 00:40:52,817 --> 00:40:55,252 It's a tough rule -- eight years and that's it. 758 00:40:55,252 --> 00:40:58,422 Out goes the President and a new one comes in. 759 00:40:58,422 --> 00:41:03,861 So if it's in the German interest to have good 760 00:41:03,861 --> 00:41:07,631 transatlantic relations, well, the task is 761 00:41:07,631 --> 00:41:09,333 also to look ahead. 762 00:41:09,333 --> 00:41:13,337 But personal -- we have freedom of movement in the 763 00:41:13,337 --> 00:41:15,606 whole of Germany, so if we want to see each other, 764 00:41:15,606 --> 00:41:18,008 well, I'm game. 765 00:41:18,008 --> 00:41:20,977 So we're not completely out of this world, 766 00:41:20,978 --> 00:41:22,546 as we would say. 767 00:41:22,546 --> 00:41:23,446 Mr. Earnest: The next question will come from 768 00:41:23,447 --> 00:41:27,151 Margaret Brennan at CBS News. 769 00:41:27,151 --> 00:41:27,884 Margaret Brennan: Thank you very much, 770 00:41:27,885 --> 00:41:29,119 Mr. President. 771 00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:31,522 You've spoken a great deal about what you've 772 00:41:31,522 --> 00:41:34,225 characterized as kind of a crude form of nationalism 773 00:41:34,225 --> 00:41:36,026 perhaps on the rise. 774 00:41:36,026 --> 00:41:38,294 I'm wondering if you would advise some of those 775 00:41:38,295 --> 00:41:41,632 protestors at home to stop demonstrating against some 776 00:41:41,632 --> 00:41:43,567 of the charged rhetoric that has been used 777 00:41:43,567 --> 00:41:45,236 by Donald Trump. 778 00:41:45,236 --> 00:41:48,205 And I'm wondering, as well, if you've advised 779 00:41:48,205 --> 00:41:51,308 your successor to be extra mindful of what you see as 780 00:41:51,308 --> 00:41:53,677 some very worrisome trends, particularly when 781 00:41:53,677 --> 00:41:55,546 it comes to making his own 782 00:41:55,546 --> 00:41:58,314 potentially powerful staff picks. 783 00:41:58,315 --> 00:42:00,751 Lastly, sir, in these final weeks of your 784 00:42:00,751 --> 00:42:04,421 presidency, do you believe you have any leverage to 785 00:42:04,421 --> 00:42:07,323 stop Bashar al-Assad and Vladimir Putin from 786 00:42:07,324 --> 00:42:09,927 continuing to bomb Aleppo? 787 00:42:09,927 --> 00:42:13,030 Chancellor Merkel, I'd like to ask you, Bashar 788 00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:15,232 al-Assad has described Donald Trump as 789 00:42:15,232 --> 00:42:17,668 a natural ally. 790 00:42:17,668 --> 00:42:20,905 Your own Foreign Minister has described Donald Trump 791 00:42:20,905 --> 00:42:22,907 as a preacher of hate. 792 00:42:22,907 --> 00:42:25,576 I'm wondering, would you tell Americans that they 793 00:42:25,576 --> 00:42:33,183 now have a perception problem? 794 00:42:33,183 --> 00:42:34,952 The President: One of the great things about our 795 00:42:34,952 --> 00:42:38,255 democracy is it expresses itself in all sorts of 796 00:42:38,255 --> 00:42:44,995 ways, and that includes people protesting. 797 00:42:44,995 --> 00:42:49,866 I've been the subject of protests during the course 798 00:42:49,867 --> 00:42:53,237 of my eight years, and I suspect that there's not a 799 00:42:53,237 --> 00:42:56,573 President in our history that, at some point, 800 00:42:56,573 --> 00:43:01,011 hasn't been subject to these protests. 801 00:43:01,011 --> 00:43:06,083 So I would not advise people who feel strongly 802 00:43:06,083 --> 00:43:11,322 or are concerned about some of the issues that 803 00:43:11,322 --> 00:43:13,424 have been raised during the course of the campaign 804 00:43:13,424 --> 00:43:16,827 -- I wouldn't advise them to be silent. 805 00:43:16,827 --> 00:43:19,930 What I would advise -- what I advised before the 806 00:43:19,930 --> 00:43:22,198 election and what I will continue to advise after 807 00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:26,136 the election -- is that elections matter, voting 808 00:43:26,136 --> 00:43:30,007 matters, organizing matters, being informed on 809 00:43:30,007 --> 00:43:32,576 the issues matter. 810 00:43:32,576 --> 00:43:37,481 And what I consistently say to young people -- I 811 00:43:37,481 --> 00:43:39,049 say it in the United States, but I'll say it 812 00:43:39,049 --> 00:43:42,586 here in Germany and across Europe -- do not take for 813 00:43:42,586 --> 00:43:47,457 granted our systems of government and 814 00:43:47,458 --> 00:43:50,294 our way of life. 815 00:43:50,294 --> 00:43:52,261 I think there is a tendency -- because we 816 00:43:52,262 --> 00:43:57,801 have lived in an era that has been largely stable 817 00:43:57,801 --> 00:44:01,904 and peaceful, at least in advanced countries, where 818 00:44:01,905 --> 00:44:07,978 living standards have generally gone up -- there 819 00:44:07,978 --> 00:44:10,948 is a tendency I think to assume that that's 820 00:44:10,948 --> 00:44:14,118 always the case. 821 00:44:14,118 --> 00:44:15,219 And it's not. 822 00:44:15,219 --> 00:44:17,955 Democracy is hard work. 823 00:44:17,955 --> 00:44:20,457 In the United States, if 43 percent of eligible 824 00:44:20,457 --> 00:44:29,400 voters do not vote, then democracy is weakened. 825 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:38,042 If we are not serious about facts and what's 826 00:44:38,042 --> 00:44:42,980 true and what's not -- and particularly in an age of 827 00:44:42,980 --> 00:44:46,316 social media where so many people are getting their 828 00:44:46,316 --> 00:44:48,852 information in soundbites and snippets off their 829 00:44:48,852 --> 00:44:55,759 phones -- if we can't discriminate between 830 00:44:55,759 --> 00:44:59,596 serious arguments and propaganda, then 831 00:44:59,596 --> 00:45:02,132 we have problems. 832 00:45:02,132 --> 00:45:06,036 If people, whether they are conservative or 833 00:45:06,036 --> 00:45:08,739 liberal, left or right, are unwilling to 834 00:45:08,739 --> 00:45:13,510 compromise and engage in the democratic process, 835 00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:17,347 and are taking absolutist views and demonizing 836 00:45:17,347 --> 00:45:23,387 opponents, then democracy will break down. 837 00:45:23,387 --> 00:45:28,725 And so I think my most important advice is to 838 00:45:28,725 --> 00:45:33,831 understand what are the foundations of a healthy 839 00:45:33,831 --> 00:45:40,204 democracy, and how we have to engage in citizenship 840 00:45:40,204 --> 00:45:44,808 continuously, not just when something upsets us, 841 00:45:44,808 --> 00:45:52,082 not just when there's an election, or when an issue 842 00:45:52,082 --> 00:45:57,554 pops up for a few weeks. 843 00:45:57,554 --> 00:45:59,556 It's hard work. 844 00:45:59,556 --> 00:46:02,359 And the good news is I think there are a lot of 845 00:46:02,359 --> 00:46:04,394 young people, certainly, who were involved in my 846 00:46:04,394 --> 00:46:07,531 campaigns and I think continue to be involved in 847 00:46:07,531 --> 00:46:13,670 work, not just politically but through nonprofits and 848 00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:17,174 other organizations, that can carry this hard work 849 00:46:17,174 --> 00:46:21,078 of democracy forward. 850 00:46:21,078 --> 00:46:23,747 But I do think sometimes there's complacency. 851 00:46:23,747 --> 00:46:27,116 Here in Europe, I think that there are a lot of 852 00:46:27,117 --> 00:46:32,289 young people who forget the issues that were at 853 00:46:32,289 --> 00:46:36,660 stake during the Cold War, who forget what it meant 854 00:46:36,660 --> 00:46:39,529 to have a wall. 855 00:46:39,530 --> 00:46:41,598 And I'll be honest, there have been times when I 856 00:46:41,598 --> 00:46:46,136 listened to the rhetoric in Europe where and easily 857 00:46:46,136 --> 00:46:48,038 equivalence somehow between the United States 858 00:46:48,038 --> 00:46:53,243 and Russia, and between how our governments 859 00:46:53,243 --> 00:46:58,048 operate versus other governments operate -- 860 00:46:58,048 --> 00:47:01,718 where those distinctions aren't made. 861 00:47:01,718 --> 00:47:06,890 I've said many times around the world that, 862 00:47:06,890 --> 00:47:08,926 like any government, like any country, like any set 863 00:47:08,926 --> 00:47:13,764 of human institutions, we have our flaws, we've 864 00:47:13,764 --> 00:47:15,699 operated imperfectly. 865 00:47:15,699 --> 00:47:17,901 There are times when we've made mistakes. 866 00:47:17,901 --> 00:47:19,435 There are times where I've made mistakes, or our 867 00:47:19,436 --> 00:47:24,541 administration hasn't always aligned ourselves 868 00:47:24,541 --> 00:47:26,343 with the values that we 869 00:47:26,343 --> 00:47:28,212 need to align ourselves with. 870 00:47:28,212 --> 00:47:30,047 It's a work of constant improvement. 871 00:47:30,047 --> 00:47:33,917 But I can say to the German people that the 872 00:47:33,917 --> 00:47:36,553 United States has been good for Germany, has 873 00:47:36,553 --> 00:47:40,324 looked out for Germany, has provided security for 874 00:47:40,324 --> 00:47:43,860 Germany, has helped to rebuild Germany 875 00:47:43,860 --> 00:47:45,362 and unify Germany. 876 00:47:45,362 --> 00:47:49,366 And I can say, across Europe, that many 877 00:47:49,366 --> 00:47:53,103 principles that have been taken for granted here 878 00:47:53,103 --> 00:47:57,040 around free speech and around civil liberties, 879 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:03,547 and an independent judiciary, and fighting 880 00:48:03,547 --> 00:48:08,352 corruption -- those are principles that, not 881 00:48:08,352 --> 00:48:12,154 perfectly, but generally, we have tried to apply not 882 00:48:12,155 --> 00:48:14,825 just in our own country but also with respect to 883 00:48:14,825 --> 00:48:18,028 our foreign policy. 884 00:48:18,028 --> 00:48:22,665 And that should be remembered. 885 00:48:22,666 --> 00:48:29,406 Because in an age where there's so much active 886 00:48:29,406 --> 00:48:33,243 misinformation -- and it's packaged very well and it 887 00:48:33,243 --> 00:48:36,413 looks the same when you see it on a Facebook page 888 00:48:36,413 --> 00:48:44,087 or you turn on your television -- where some 889 00:48:44,087 --> 00:48:54,831 overzealousness on the part of a U.S. 890 00:48:54,831 --> 00:48:58,568 official is equated with constant and severe 891 00:48:58,568 --> 00:49:08,712 repression elsewhere -- if everything seems to be the 892 00:49:08,712 --> 00:49:13,850 same and no distinctions are made, then we won't 893 00:49:13,850 --> 00:49:15,919 know what to protect. 894 00:49:15,919 --> 00:49:17,921 We won't know what to fight for. 895 00:49:17,921 --> 00:49:22,491 And we can lose so much of what we've gained in terms 896 00:49:22,492 --> 00:49:27,764 of the kind of democratic freedoms and market-based 897 00:49:27,764 --> 00:49:30,233 economies and prosperity that we've come to 898 00:49:30,233 --> 00:49:32,703 take for granted. 899 00:49:32,703 --> 00:49:34,338 That was a long answer, wasn't it? 900 00:49:34,338 --> 00:49:37,374 I don't remember if there was a second part to it. 901 00:49:37,374 --> 00:49:40,009 I got all caught up in that one. 902 00:49:40,010 --> 00:49:42,379 Margaret Brennan: I asked you if you advised the 903 00:49:42,379 --> 00:49:45,482 President-elect on things -- 904 00:49:45,482 --> 00:49:47,617 The President: Yes, I did. 905 00:49:47,617 --> 00:49:50,754 I did. 906 00:49:50,754 --> 00:49:54,091 He ran a extraordinarily unconventional campaign, 907 00:49:54,091 --> 00:49:58,662 and it resulted in the biggest political upset in 908 00:49:58,662 --> 00:50:03,165 perhaps modern political history -- 909 00:50:03,166 --> 00:50:04,735 American history. 910 00:50:04,735 --> 00:50:10,507 And that means that he now has to 911 00:50:10,507 --> 00:50:13,210 transition to governance. 912 00:50:13,210 --> 00:50:18,181 And what I said to him was that what may work in 913 00:50:18,181 --> 00:50:27,524 generating enthusiasm or passion during elections 914 00:50:27,524 --> 00:50:29,759 may be different than what will work in terms of 915 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,731 unifying the country and gaining the trust even of 916 00:50:34,731 --> 00:50:36,933 those who didn't support him. 917 00:50:36,933 --> 00:50:43,807 And he's indicated his willingness to -- his 918 00:50:43,807 --> 00:50:45,207 understanding of that. 919 00:50:45,208 --> 00:50:46,610 But you're absolutely right that that has to 920 00:50:46,610 --> 00:50:49,446 reflect itself not only in the things he says, but 921 00:50:49,446 --> 00:50:54,451 also how he fills out his administration. 922 00:50:54,451 --> 00:50:58,188 And my hope is, is that that's something he is 923 00:50:58,188 --> 00:51:08,231 thinking about, because not only is the President 924 00:51:08,231 --> 00:51:12,335 of the United States somebody that the entire 925 00:51:12,335 --> 00:51:19,843 country looks to for direction but sets the 926 00:51:19,843 --> 00:51:24,548 agenda internationally in a lot of ways. 927 00:51:24,548 --> 00:51:27,517 Margaret Brennan: And Syria? 928 00:51:27,517 --> 00:51:31,053 The President: With respect to Syria, we are 929 00:51:31,054 --> 00:51:34,558 going to continue to work, as we have over the last 930 00:51:34,558 --> 00:51:40,630 five, six years, to push towards a political 931 00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:44,000 transition and settlement. 932 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,638 It would be naïve of me to suggest that with Russia 933 00:51:48,638 --> 00:51:56,011 committed militarily as it is to supporting what, in 934 00:51:56,012 --> 00:51:58,381 many cases, are barbarous tactics by the Assad 935 00:51:58,381 --> 00:52:04,354 regime to crush the opposition, the sort of 936 00:52:04,354 --> 00:52:06,323 indiscriminate bombing that we've been seeing not 937 00:52:06,323 --> 00:52:09,225 just in Aleppo but in many parts of the country over 938 00:52:09,226 --> 00:52:11,428 the last several years -- it would be naïve of me to 939 00:52:11,428 --> 00:52:16,098 suggest that there's going to be a sudden, 180-degree 940 00:52:16,099 --> 00:52:22,672 turn in policy by either Assad or Russia or Iran 941 00:52:22,672 --> 00:52:23,974 at this point. 942 00:52:23,974 --> 00:52:25,842 But we are going to continue to make 943 00:52:25,842 --> 00:52:27,611 the argument. 944 00:52:27,611 --> 00:52:29,712 We are going to continue to try to find 945 00:52:29,713 --> 00:52:33,149 humanitarian steps that can reach 946 00:52:33,149 --> 00:52:34,584 the people there. 947 00:52:34,584 --> 00:52:37,821 We're going to continue to try to obtain Cessations 948 00:52:37,821 --> 00:52:43,593 of Hostilities that lessen the human tragedy and the 949 00:52:43,593 --> 00:52:47,964 migration that's taking place. 950 00:52:47,964 --> 00:52:53,169 But, ultimately, the way this is going to be 951 00:52:53,169 --> 00:53:00,710 resolved is going to have to be a recognition by 952 00:53:00,710 --> 00:53:09,452 Russia, and a willingness to pressure Assad that a 953 00:53:09,452 --> 00:53:13,423 lasting, durable peace with a functioning country 954 00:53:13,423 --> 00:53:15,926 requires the consent of people. 955 00:53:15,926 --> 00:53:18,395 You cannot purchase people's consent 956 00:53:18,395 --> 00:53:21,898 through killing them. 957 00:53:21,898 --> 00:53:28,538 They haven't made that transition yet, but we're 958 00:53:28,538 --> 00:53:35,712 going to keep on trying. 959 00:53:35,712 --> 00:53:36,680 Chancellor Merkel: ( interpreted.) I think I 960 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:41,283 can speak for the whole of the federal government 961 00:53:41,284 --> 00:53:46,323 when I say that we are no longer in election mode in 962 00:53:46,323 --> 00:53:48,825 the United States, we're in post-election mode. 963 00:53:48,825 --> 00:53:51,528 There is an interest of the Federal Republic of 964 00:53:51,528 --> 00:53:54,763 Germany to cooperate well with the United 965 00:53:54,764 --> 00:53:56,866 States of America. 966 00:53:56,866 --> 00:53:58,868 This goes for each and every President on the 967 00:53:58,868 --> 00:54:01,938 basis of shared values, and I believe that these 968 00:54:01,938 --> 00:54:03,974 are, indeed, shared values, and should be 969 00:54:03,974 --> 00:54:05,041 shared values. 970 00:54:05,041 --> 00:54:09,312 So as to my position on President Assad, Assad as 971 00:54:09,312 --> 00:54:16,853 President has actively tried to 972 00:54:16,853 --> 00:54:18,688 kill his own people. 973 00:54:18,688 --> 00:54:22,025 He has bombed them with barrel bombs in a 974 00:54:22,025 --> 00:54:24,361 most terrible way. 975 00:54:24,361 --> 00:54:27,797 He has brought untold suffering over his people 976 00:54:27,797 --> 00:54:29,332 -- if you look at Aleppo and other places. 977 00:54:29,332 --> 00:54:33,435 When you talk to the many Syrian refugees who have 978 00:54:33,436 --> 00:54:37,140 fled here to Germany, they will be able to tell you 979 00:54:37,140 --> 00:54:40,343 their own personal story, and the majority of them 980 00:54:40,343 --> 00:54:43,613 -- the great majority of them -- fled from Assad, 981 00:54:43,613 --> 00:54:46,915 and most of them not even fled the IS. 982 00:54:46,916 --> 00:54:52,188 So I don't see him as an ally. 983 00:54:52,188 --> 00:54:55,191 The Press: Thank you very much. 984 00:54:55,191 --> 00:54:58,727 Mr. President, you describe your hopes rather 985 00:54:58,728 --> 00:55:01,131 more in great historical terms. 986 00:55:01,131 --> 00:55:05,035 Let me break this down to months and years. 987 00:55:05,035 --> 00:55:08,138 The fact that Stephen Bannon was made as chief 988 00:55:08,138 --> 00:55:11,473 strategist, meeting Mr. Farage, and the fact 989 00:55:11,474 --> 00:55:14,744 that prominent Republican representatives did not 990 00:55:14,744 --> 00:55:18,048 decide to join this transition team -- what 991 00:55:18,048 --> 00:55:21,718 makes you confident, against the background of 992 00:55:21,718 --> 00:55:24,520 this, that President Trump can be a reliable partner 993 00:55:24,521 --> 00:55:26,589 to the world and to Europe and Germany? 994 00:55:26,589 --> 00:55:30,093 Now, Madam Chancellor, if you hear those words of 995 00:55:30,093 --> 00:55:33,696 praise of the President with regard to you -- 996 00:55:33,697 --> 00:55:38,635 this, what he said, can this not sort of demand 997 00:55:38,635 --> 00:55:41,871 too much from you and from Germany? 998 00:55:41,871 --> 00:55:43,707 Because too much is demanded, too much is 999 00:55:43,707 --> 00:55:45,674 expected from you -- too great are the 1000 00:55:45,675 --> 00:55:52,749 expectations, you can't meet them? 1001 00:55:52,749 --> 00:56:00,055 The President: I'm always optimistic. 1002 00:56:00,056 --> 00:56:06,763 There were times where I was in the Oval Office and 1003 00:56:06,763 --> 00:56:08,998 people would come to me with all kinds of 1004 00:56:08,998 --> 00:56:11,968 political problems and policy problems and 1005 00:56:11,968 --> 00:56:15,004 international problems, and my team would be 1006 00:56:15,004 --> 00:56:22,178 getting discouraged and depressed, and I would say 1007 00:56:22,178 --> 00:56:26,516 to them, I have to be optimistic, because the 1008 00:56:26,516 --> 00:56:31,287 odds of somebody named Barack Obama being 1009 00:56:31,287 --> 00:56:34,823 President of the United States were very low, and 1010 00:56:34,824 --> 00:56:44,501 the fact that, in my lifetime, I have seen such 1011 00:56:44,501 --> 00:56:47,670 enormous, positive change in the United States and 1012 00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:59,315 around the world tells me that, although history 1013 00:56:59,315 --> 00:57:03,019 does not travel in a straight line, it moves in 1014 00:57:03,019 --> 00:57:06,689 the direction of justice and freedom and a better 1015 00:57:06,689 --> 00:57:12,328 life for people. 1016 00:57:12,328 --> 00:57:13,563 But we have to fight for it. 1017 00:57:13,563 --> 00:57:17,433 We have to work for it. 1018 00:57:17,433 --> 00:57:25,608 What makes me cautiously optimistic about my 1019 00:57:25,608 --> 00:57:30,113 successor and the shift from campaign mode to 1020 00:57:30,113 --> 00:57:38,988 governance is there's something about the solemn 1021 00:57:38,988 --> 00:57:46,395 responsibilities of that office, the extraordinary 1022 00:57:46,396 --> 00:57:53,469 demands that are placed on the United States -- not 1023 00:57:53,469 --> 00:57:58,041 just by its own people but by people around the world 1024 00:57:58,041 --> 00:58:06,816 -- that forces you to focus, 1025 00:58:06,816 --> 00:58:17,627 that demands seriousness. 1026 00:58:17,627 --> 00:58:22,532 And if you're not serious about the job, then you 1027 00:58:22,532 --> 00:58:26,736 probably won't be there very long because it will 1028 00:58:26,736 --> 00:58:29,973 expose problems. 1029 00:58:29,973 --> 00:58:35,211 Even when you're doing a job, even when you are 1030 00:58:35,211 --> 00:58:39,448 attentive, there are so many things that come 1031 00:58:39,449 --> 00:58:42,018 across your desk that people are going to 1032 00:58:42,018 --> 00:58:45,054 question you, and you're going to have opponents 1033 00:58:45,054 --> 00:58:49,125 and you're going to have critics, and you figure 1034 00:58:49,125 --> 00:58:51,961 that out pretty fast when you're sitting there. 1035 00:58:51,961 --> 00:58:55,198 And I think the President-elect is going 1036 00:58:55,198 --> 00:59:02,504 to see fairly quickly that the demands and 1037 00:59:02,505 --> 00:59:04,707 responsibilities of a U.S. 1038 00:59:04,707 --> 00:59:08,645 President are not ones that you can treat 1039 00:59:08,645 --> 00:59:13,816 casually, and that in a big, complex, diverse 1040 00:59:13,816 --> 00:59:17,754 country, the only way that you can be successful is 1041 00:59:17,754 --> 00:59:21,290 by listening and reaching out and working with a 1042 00:59:21,291 --> 00:59:26,029 wide variety of people. 1043 00:59:26,029 --> 00:59:29,933 And so it is my hope that that is what will happen. 1044 00:59:29,933 --> 00:59:32,135 And I'm going to do everything I can over the 1045 00:59:32,135 --> 00:59:39,008 next two months to help assure that that happens. 1046 00:59:39,008 --> 00:59:42,278 It is absolutely true that Chancellor Merkel is going 1047 00:59:42,278 --> 00:59:45,881 to have significant responsibilities, has had 1048 00:59:45,882 --> 00:59:52,722 extraordinary burdens that she's had to carry. 1049 00:59:52,722 --> 00:59:55,024 If she chooses to continue, you're right, 1050 00:59:55,024 --> 00:59:59,362 she will have big burdens. 1051 00:59:59,362 --> 01:00:02,999 I wish I could be there to lighten her load somewhat, 1052 01:00:02,999 --> 01:00:07,203 but she's tough. 1053 01:00:07,203 --> 01:00:12,141 And I have -- I know what it means to 1054 01:00:12,141 --> 01:00:15,611 carry burdens because the fact of the matter is, is 1055 01:00:15,611 --> 01:00:18,047 that if there are problems around the world, the 1056 01:00:18,047 --> 01:00:20,516 first question people ask is, why isn't Washington 1057 01:00:20,516 --> 01:00:25,555 doing something about it? 1058 01:00:25,555 --> 01:00:30,692 This is why it's so important not to discount 1059 01:00:30,693 --> 01:00:33,196 or take for granted the importance of the 1060 01:00:33,196 --> 01:00:35,565 Transatlantic Alliance. 1061 01:00:35,565 --> 01:00:41,838 And this is probably the best place for me to end. 1062 01:00:41,838 --> 01:00:46,376 In international for a -- in G20s, in G7s, in the 1063 01:00:46,376 --> 01:00:49,579 United Nations -- the United States and Germany 1064 01:00:49,579 --> 01:00:52,315 are not always perfectly aligned. 1065 01:00:52,315 --> 01:00:56,452 America and Europe are not always perfectly aligned. 1066 01:00:56,452 --> 01:01:01,791 But the voice that speaks out on behalf of some 1067 01:01:01,791 --> 01:01:05,495 dissident who is jailed halfway around the world, 1068 01:01:05,495 --> 01:01:08,964 the voice who is expressing concern about 1069 01:01:08,965 --> 01:01:12,135 some child in an African village who doesn't have 1070 01:01:12,135 --> 01:01:14,771 clean drinking water or is subject to some terrible 1071 01:01:14,771 --> 01:01:22,445 disease, the voice that insists on rules and norms 1072 01:01:22,445 --> 01:01:28,418 governing international affairs, the voice that 1073 01:01:28,418 --> 01:01:33,022 helps to steer the world away from war wherever 1074 01:01:33,022 --> 01:01:40,395 possible -- that's our voice more often than not. 1075 01:01:40,396 --> 01:01:43,733 And we're not always successful. 1076 01:01:43,733 --> 01:01:48,404 But if that voice is absent, or if that voice 1077 01:01:48,404 --> 01:01:53,676 is divided, we will be living in a meaner, 1078 01:01:53,676 --> 01:01:58,848 harsher, more troubled world. 1079 01:01:58,848 --> 01:02:00,049 And we have to remember that. 1080 01:02:00,049 --> 01:02:00,850 And whoever is the U.S. 1081 01:02:00,850 --> 01:02:02,585 President, and whoever is the Chancellor of Germany, 1082 01:02:02,585 --> 01:02:09,525 and whoever is the leader of other European nations 1083 01:02:09,525 --> 01:02:11,928 and other democracies around the world -- they 1084 01:02:11,928 --> 01:02:16,699 need to recognize that. 1085 01:02:16,699 --> 01:02:21,471 There are going to be forces that argue for 1086 01:02:21,471 --> 01:02:26,576 cynicism, for looking the other way with somebody 1087 01:02:26,576 --> 01:02:30,746 else's problems, that are not going to champion 1088 01:02:30,746 --> 01:02:33,716 people who are vulnerable because sometimes that's 1089 01:02:33,716 --> 01:02:35,418 politically convenient. 1090 01:02:35,418 --> 01:02:38,688 And if we don't have a strong transatlantic 1091 01:02:38,688 --> 01:02:42,725 alliance that's standing up for those things, we 1092 01:02:42,725 --> 01:02:46,295 will be giving to our children a worse world. 1093 01:02:46,295 --> 01:02:49,031 We will go backwards instead of forwards. 1094 01:02:49,031 --> 01:02:49,732 So whoever the U.S. 1095 01:02:49,732 --> 01:02:52,201 President is, whoever the Chancellor of Germany is, 1096 01:02:52,201 --> 01:02:54,370 we need to remember that. 1097 01:02:54,370 --> 01:02:56,506 And our citizenry who decide who our Presidents 1098 01:02:56,506 --> 01:03:05,013 and Chancellors are need to remember that. 1099 01:03:05,014 --> 01:03:10,686 Chancellor Merkel: (As interpreted.) It is, after 1100 01:03:10,686 --> 01:03:14,123 all, a very good thing if, after eight years of 1101 01:03:14,123 --> 01:03:16,159 cooperation, the President of the United States says 1102 01:03:16,159 --> 01:03:19,162 that this is a cooperation based on friendship, that 1103 01:03:19,162 --> 01:03:21,464 we cooperated well. 1104 01:03:21,464 --> 01:03:24,933 I feel that this is a very good, a very positive 1105 01:03:24,934 --> 01:03:28,538 message, and, indeed, an encouragement for me. 1106 01:03:28,538 --> 01:03:32,942 Now, secondly, I, fortunately, know very 1107 01:03:32,942 --> 01:03:35,678 many people -- and there are many, many more that I 1108 01:03:35,678 --> 01:03:37,946 don't know, and many politicians -- who stand 1109 01:03:37,947 --> 01:03:40,883 up for the same values of democracy, of liberal 1110 01:03:40,883 --> 01:03:44,053 societies, of open societies, of respect for 1111 01:03:44,053 --> 01:03:48,124 the dignity of man. 1112 01:03:48,124 --> 01:03:52,294 And I feel that we are in a community of people here 1113 01:03:52,295 --> 01:03:54,397 who stand up for these values, who try to 1114 01:03:54,397 --> 01:03:56,766 maintain them, and wherever they are not yet 1115 01:03:56,766 --> 01:04:00,203 respected, stand up for people's rights to enjoy 1116 01:04:00,203 --> 01:04:01,037 them, as well. 1117 01:04:01,037 --> 01:04:04,073 And this is worth every effort. 1118 01:04:04,073 --> 01:04:06,375 But I think we're gratified to know that 1119 01:04:06,375 --> 01:04:08,611 there are many, many people who feel committed 1120 01:04:08,611 --> 01:04:09,444 to this goal. 1121 01:04:09,445 --> 01:04:10,379 Thank you very much.