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Mr. Carney:
Hello, everyone.

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Thanks for being here.

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Before I take your questions,
I just wanted to mention that

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earlier today, at the White
House, Valerie Jarrett,

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Senior Advisor; Gene Sperling,
Director of the National

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Economic Council; Jeff
Zients, Director of OMB;

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and Alan Krueger, the
President's chief economist met

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with the following business
leaders in the defense

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contracting industry: Wes Bush,
Chairman, CEO and President of

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Northrop Grumman
Corporation; David P. Hess,

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President of Pratt &
Whitney; Linda Parker Hudson,

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President and CEO
of BAE Systems Inc.;

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John S. Langford, Chairman and
CEO of Aurora Flight Sciences

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Corporation; David F. Melcher,
CEO and President of ITT Exelis;

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Mike Petters, President and CEO,
Huntington Ingalls Industries;

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and Marion C. Blakey,
President and CEO, Aerospace

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Industries Association.

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The focus of the conversation
was the potential devastating

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impacts of the sequester going
into effect as a number of the

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participants noted the notion
that allowing the sequester to

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take effect would someone have
limited effect or would be

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reversible, that notion was
disputed heavily in the meeting.

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For some of these
major companies,

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the impacts would
be long lasting,

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as they would have to make
decisions about programmatic

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changes they would make and
therefore contractual changes.

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A company like Northrop
Grumman, I believe, would have,

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for example, something like
20,000 small businesses in their

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pipeline that would be severely
affected by implementation of

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the sequester.

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And a lot of these companies,
while they are defense

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contractors, also have a
significant civilian side

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business operations that would
be negatively affected by the

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impacts on their R&D
budgets, for example.

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So this is a very
serious matter.

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I would also note that the
participants did not support

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proposals thrown out there that
we could somehow address only

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the defense spending side of the
sequester, take care of that,

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but let the nondefense cuts
kick in, across-the board cuts,

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or double up on the nondefense
across-the-board cuts,

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because these companies depend
for their workforces of their

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future on investments in
education and in STEM education

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in particular, and in other
areas of investment that this

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government makes to help
build the foundation for our

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future economy.

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So it was a very good
meeting and about a very

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important topic.

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And with that, I go to
the Associated Press.

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The Press:
Thank you.

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Does the White House have any
response to the Boy Scouts

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delaying their decision
on allowing gay members

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and leaders?

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Mr. Carney:
We have no response.

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I don't have a response
to their process.

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You know that the President
believes the Boy Scouts is a

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valuable organization that
has helped educate and build

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character in American boys
for more than a century.

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He also, as you know, opposes
discrimination in all forms,

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and as such believes, as
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that gay Americans ought to
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the Boy Scouts.

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But in terms of the process
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policies, I don't
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The Press:
The President obviously is
in Annapolis talking to Senate

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Democrats, and there's no press
access to that event, which,

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first, we just want to
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Second of all, can you give
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President's message was going
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particularly on his priorities
for immigration and gun control?

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Mr. Carney:
The President will talk about
all the work that the Senate is

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doing -- Senate Democrats are
doing with the administration in

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a coordinated way, whether it's
on addressing the sequester that

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I just talked about and
our fiscal challenges;

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the balanced approach we need
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reduction; the investments
we need to make to ensure our

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economy grows and
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On immigration,
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and the President
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significant progress made with
the participation of Senate

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Democrats towards a bipartisan
piece of legislation that would

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meet the standards and
principles the President has put

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forward in his blueprint, and
hopefully would pass the Senate

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and the House and get the
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That's a very high priority
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the nation's.

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And on other issues, whether
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gun violence in America, or
dealing with a variety of other

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issues that confront us, the
President looks forward to

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meeting with Senate Democrats
because they play such an

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important role in moving
this agenda forward.

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The Press:
What's his message specifically
on the assault weapons ban?

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That's an issue that several
Democrats have refrained from

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voicing their support
or opposition to.

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Is he going to push them to take
this to the floor and have a

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vote on it?

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Mr. Carney:
The President firmly supports
reinstatement of the assault

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weapons ban.

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He has long supported that.

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He understands that these
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that achieving them
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but he is committed to pressing
forward on them and to enlisting

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the support of lawmakers in both
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parties in the effort.

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As for the assault weapons
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I think he said on Sunday and I
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to come to a vote.

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The American people
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support passage of the
assault weapons ban.

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The President certainly does,
and he believes it should

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come to a vote.

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The Press:
Even if that means putting
members of his own party in the

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position to vote against
something that he supports or

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take a vote that could
hurt them politically?

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Mr. Carney:
I think he thinks that the
American people, understandably,

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expect Congress to vote on
these important matters,

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to vote yes or no.

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And he would hope that the
Senate has an opportunity

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to do that.

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The Press:
Finally, I wonder if you have
any update on the President's

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State of the Union, how he's
going through the process of

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working on that; if there's any
sort of message or theme that

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you can tell us
about at this point.

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I don't have a preview
of the speech itself for you.

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It's a collaborative process
between the President and his

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speechwriter -- in
this case, Cody Keenan,

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as I think it's been noted
is taking the lead on the

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speechwriting team for this and
will be getting a higher profile

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in the weeks to come
-- internally, anyway.

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But these are speeches that the
President takes very seriously.

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He's a writer himself, so he
engages at a very deep level on

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the framing of a speech, on the
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it and the shaping of it.

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So that process continues.

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Jeff.

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The Press:
Jay, Speaker Boehner said today
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delay in the sequester
without further spending cuts.

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And the reaction yesterday
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largely to what the
President said, was negative.

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How do you plan to
overcome that opposition?

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And more specifically, will the
President give any details about

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what spending cuts he would like
to see in a short-term package?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, the President was clear
yesterday that he believes if we

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don't have the time, or the
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the short term to accept the
offer that he put forward to

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Speaker Boehner that would
resolve the sequester and then

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some when it comes to deficit
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that we should at the very least
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buy-down just as we did at the
end of the year of the sequester

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in order to prevent the terrible
impact of the sequester if it

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were to take place, and to give
Congress the time to continue to

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work on a budget process that
the President hopes and others

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hope will produce a balanced
approach towards further

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deficit reduction.

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So a balanced approach means
spending cuts as well as revenue

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through tax reform.

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So we would work with -- we will 
work with Congress on a package

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that would do that.

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So if Speaker Boehner is saying
that spending cuts have to be

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part of that, the President
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But it cannot be
spending cuts alone.

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The balance is what the
American people support.

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And whether it's proposals,
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forward, that achieve
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over 10 years only through
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borne almost entirely by
senior citizens and struggling

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middle-class families and others
or proposals for short-term

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buying down of the sequester or
other measures that would reduce

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the deficit, it has to be
balanced because it's --

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the principle is broadly
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American people.

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It's the right economic
principle to apply.

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And the argument that
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that the choice here should be
unbalanced spending cuts that

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adversely affect Americans
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but hold harmless corporations
that enjoy tax breaks for jets

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or subsidies for oil and
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hedge fund managers who pay a
much lower tax rate through the

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carried interest provision than
average folks who drive a bus or

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walk the beat in a municipal
police department or teach our

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kids -- that that's a better --
that he see that's the choice,

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or we let the sequester kick,
in thousands of upon thousands

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Americans lose their
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and the economy
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That's a terrible choice,
and it's not an option the --

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it's not a choice
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If we do it in a balanced
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we've done this before, so why
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for a temporary period of time
to allow for congressional work

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to be done on this issue for
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why was it okay to do it in a
balanced way two months ago but

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it's not okay now?

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It's the right thing to do.

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The President made
that clear yesterday.

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The Press:
And you may pose
that question, but,

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as I said in the
original question,

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the response has been --

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Mr. Carney:
Right, well, they
will have to explain.

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The Press:
But how will you -- will
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Or is the President willing to
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1st the sequester would just
go in and the people who he met

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with this morning and their
companies and employees

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will suffer?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, the President came out
here yesterday in part to

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challenge the growing
conventional wisdom among

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Republicans in Congress that the
sequester is somehow acceptable;

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it's somehow a useful
political play for them,

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because the effects of the
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out there would
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And he put forward a proposal
for avoiding that outcome while

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Congress continues to work on
longer-term deficit reduction.

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That's the sensible thing to do.

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Why make -- why punish the
American people because you

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haven't been able to achieve
your ideological objectives

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through other means?

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They pass budgets that are
wholly objectionable to most

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Americans; they didn't
become law because of that,

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because they don't have the
support of the American people.

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Compromise solutions have the
support of the American people,

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solutions that involve some
revenues through tax reform --

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the kinds of tax reform --
closures of loopholes and

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capping of deductions
that, supposedly,

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Republicans supported
a few months ago,

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but don't support now.

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And then combined with spending
cuts and entitlement reforms,

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we can achieve what has long
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the goal of many others, which
is significant deficit reduction

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on the order of $4 trillion over
a decade that would put us on a

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fiscally sustainable path and
allow our economy to grow and

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continue to create jobs.

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The Press:
And we know what the
proposal is for $4 trillion,

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and he referred to it yesterday,
but the reaction, as I've said,

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is they want to see -- the
Republicans who would need to

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agree to this want to see what
the specific spending cuts would

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be in the short-term deal.

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Mr. Carney:
Look, I think that we would
work with Congress on whatever a

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short-term deal would look like.

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It has to be balanced.

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The reaction I've heard --

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The Press:
That's clear.

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But are there any -- do you have
any meat on the bone for that

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right now -- for either side?

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Mr. Carney:
We haven't -- we will
work with Congress.

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The meat on the bone in terms of
what balance would look like is

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available in the bigger plan.

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And obviously, you would take --

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The Press:
But he's proposing
the shorter plan.

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Mr. Carney:
Jeff, I think --
here are the facts:

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We proposed a specific option
for the Speaker of the House.

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It was a compromise that was far
more detailed than anything we

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ever saw from the
Republicans in that process,

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both on the spending cuts
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The President made clear
yesterday and I've made clear

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that deal is still available.

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If you want to pursue
balance in a short-term deal,

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then you can look to the options
provided in the President's

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proposal for both spending
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And you can -- when
it comes to revenues,

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you can look to the language
that Republicans used when they

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talked about how we could
achieve significant revenue

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increases from wealthy Americans
through tax reform alone.

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So if it was true then,
it must be true now.

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The Press:
Jay, follow?

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Mr. Carney:
Let me -- I'm going to go a
little to the right here and

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then to the left.

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The Press:
Jay, thanks.

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I want to go back to
the drone strikes.

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The New York Times is pointing
out that a number of military

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and intelligence officials have
expressed concern that the drone

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strikes might actually be
creating more militants in areas

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like Yemen than they're killing.

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Is that one of the effects?

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Are they having
the reverse impact?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I would -- in terms
of the broader effort,

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I would refer you
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the broader effort in terms
of dealing with al Qaeda.

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But the fact is, as John Brennan
and others have made clear,

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our counterterrorism
efforts are designed --

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including our
targeted efforts --

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to limit civilian casualties.

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And I think any fair assessment
of those efforts would draw you

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to the conclusion that they have
significantly limited civilian

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casualties, I think.

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The Press:
Civilians have been killed.

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Mr. Carney:
Well, again I'm not
disputing that necessarily,

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although I won't talk
about specific instances.

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But the fact is, is that the
methods that we use are designed

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specifically to avoid
civilian casualties.

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I think it's fair to say that
far fewer civilians lose their

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lives in an effort to go after
senior leadership in al Qaeda

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along the lines that we are
discussing here as opposed to an

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effort to invade a country with
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and take cities and towns.

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So I think that these are issues
that obviously concern everyone

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involved in the effort to combat
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region as a whole.

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So that aspect of it is one that
is very much in the front of

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everybody's minds when they make
these decisions and move forward

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with actions.

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The Press:
Stanley McChrystal was quoted
as saying that these strikes

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contribute to a perception
of "American arrogance."

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How concerned is the
President about that,

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that these strikes are
making America seem arrogant?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I think that the President
takes a very serious approach to

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these matters and has,
as I said yesterday,

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two responsibilities in mind,
and that is his absolute

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responsibility under the
Constitution to protect the

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United States and to
protect American citizens,

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and his responsibility in
carrying out the first to do so

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in a way that's consistent with
our Constitution and our laws

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and our values.

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And on the broader objectives,
we obviously take the fight to

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al Qaeda in a way that we
believe serves our national

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security objectives.

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And that means eliminating
senior al Qaeda leadership,

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and it also means working with
countries around the region to

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encourage a process whereby the
populations in some of these

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countries recognize that
choosing the ideology of al

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Qaeda is ultimately disastrous
for them and their futures and

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their country's future.

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And so it's an effort that
includes a lot of different

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elements to it that
is not just military.

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The Press:
And just shifting to the
President's trip to Israel

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quickly, does he plan to bring
any concrete proposals to his

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trip to advance the peace talks?

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Has Netanyahu offered any
proposals ahead of the visit?

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Mr. Carney:
As I said yesterday, this is a
trip the President looks forward

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to making that is timed in part
because we have here obviously a

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second term for the President,
a new administration,

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and a new government in Israel,
and that's an opportune time for

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a visit like this that is not
focused on specific Middle East

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peace process proposals.

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I'm sure that any time the
President and Prime Minister

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have a discussion, certainly
any time the President has a

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discussion with leaders of
the Palestinian Authority,

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that those issues are raised.

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But that is not the
purpose of this visit.

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Our views and our efforts on
Middle East peace are clear and

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they're continuing.

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And I think as I said yesterday,
the visit will include travel to

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the West Bank as
well as to Jordan.

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The Press:
Jay, on the drones, why are you
dancing around the question of

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whether or not we
kill civilians?

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Why can't the government at
least admit that civilians

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have been killed?

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Mr. Carney:
I don't think that
I'm dancing around it.

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I didn't dispute it.

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The Press:
You said I'm not
necessarily disputing it.

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I'm just not going
to -- what I can't do or

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what I'm not --

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The Press:
Civilians have
been killed, right?

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Mr. Carney:
I don't disagree with that.

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The Press:
Okay.

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Do you think this is
going to imperil John

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Brennan's nomination?

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Mr. Carney:
The President believes that John
Brennan is uniquely qualified as

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a 25-year veteran of
intelligence work --

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a 25-year veteran at the
CIA -- to lead that agency.

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And as the President's top
counterterrorism advisor these

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past four years, he's done
extraordinary work in the effort

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to combat al Qaeda, and through
that work we have seen a

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significant decimation of
senior al Qaeda leadership,

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including the elimination
of Osama bin Laden.

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Mr. Brennan brings I think not
only a vast amount of experience

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but a significant perspective on
the battles that we wage in this

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effort and the right
way to conduct them.

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So the President believes that
the Senate should and will

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confirm John Brennan
expeditiously.

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The Press:
Two quick questions.

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CBO yesterday in a report said
that the President's health care

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law is going to push 7 million
people out of their job-based

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insurance coverage.

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That's nearly twice
the previous estimate.

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In fairness, it seems like it's
not because of the original

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health care law, it's because of
some tax changes in the fiscal

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cliff talks that in part
is causing this change.

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But since it's happening, how
can the President still claim

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that people are going to
get to keep their coverage,

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keep their doctor, if 7 million
people are going to be thrown

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off their insurance?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I think that the report
is oversimplified in a number of

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areas, and HHS can
provide you more details,

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more information about that.

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The bottom line here is that
no matter where you live,

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on January 1st, 2014, an
insurance marketplace will be up

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and running, and consumers will
have more access to quality,

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affordable health
insurance coverage.

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We've seen just in
recent days and weeks,

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states led by both Democrats and
Republicans stepping forward to

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implement the
Affordable Care Act.

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We now have approximately
25 states, again,

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led by members of both parties,
that will operate their own

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health insurance marketplace
either on their own or in

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partnership with the
federal government.

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And as I said, in 2014 consumers
in all 50 states will have

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access to a marketplace
where they can afford --

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where they can access, rather,
affordable private health

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insurance coverage.

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The Press:
Last thing is on the Boy Scouts.

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When you were asked about
it before you said that the

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President was motivated in
large part because he opposes

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discrimination in
all forms, of course.

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He believed the same about
discrimination in 2009,

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I assume, and yet was
against same-sex marriage.

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What has driven his evolution on
issues like same-sex marriage?

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Mr. Carney:
I think the President gave a
lengthy interview about just

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this very topic to
Robin Roberts last year,

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so I would point you to his
comments about his evolution.

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The Press:
But he opposed discrimination
-- is it because of public

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sentiment changing so much
over the last decade?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, again, I would -- for
his personal evolution --

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a term that he used -- I
would point you to his words.

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I think that
there's no question,

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as many have written
about and commented on,

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that our country has as a whole
evolved significantly in our

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view, the public's
view, of these matters.

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And the President believes
that's a very good thing.

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Dan.

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The Press:
Does the President owe the
American people a clearer

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explanation about the standard
or the threshold for killing

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Americans overseas?

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Mr. Carney:
I think it's an excellent
question and it's the one the

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President -- and it is one that
the President takes very much to

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heart and very seriously.

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He thinks that it is legitimate
to ask questions about how we

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prosecute the war
against al Qaeda.

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It is something that he
has discussed internally.

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It is his belief
in these issues,

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his belief that we need to move
forward with more transparency

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as well as create, in his words,
a "legal framework" around how

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these decisions are made
that has led to, I think,

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unprecedented levels of
information provided to the

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public about how we do this,
including the speeches that I

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talked about yesterday from John
Brennan and the Attorney General

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and others -- Jeh
Johnson and others.

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And the President fully expects
that that process will continue,

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because these are issues that
he believes are very important.

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As I said before, his high
responsibility here as

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Commander-in-Chief is to protect
the American people and to

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protect the United States from
threats like the threats posed

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by al Qaeda.

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It is also his high
responsibility to perform that

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function in a way that is
consistent with who we are,

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our values and the Constitution.

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And he believes that it's wholly
legitimate to examine these

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issues and to have
conversations about them.

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And he is engaged here
internally in a process that I

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think reflects
his views on this.

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I think he said late
last year, in the fall,

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one of the things --
this was in an interview,

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and I'm quoting the President
-- "One of the things that we've

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got to do is put a legal
architecture in place,

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and we need congressional
help to do that,

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to make sure that not
only am I reined in,

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but any President is reined
in, in terms of some of the

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decisions that we're making."

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So we're talking -- he's
talking about this in a very

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deliberative and thoughtful way
about how we move forward as a

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nation on these issues,
because, obviously, this is a --

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these are questions that will
be with us long after he is

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President and long after the
people who are in the seats that

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they're in now have
left the scene.

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The Press:
And can we expect him to
address this in a public way

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any time soon?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I don't have any
scheduling announcements to make

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or remarks to preview.

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But I just wanted to convey to
you the seriousness with which

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the President
approaches these issues,

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and he respects the
questions being asked.

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I think, again, while the white
paper that was produced by the

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Department of Justice for
senators was not a public

471
00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:18,467
document, as I noted
yesterday, it does --

472
00:25:18,467 --> 00:25:26,633
it did represent an effort in
our providing of information to

473
00:25:26,633 --> 00:25:31,300
the applicable members of
Congress to explain the legal

474
00:25:31,300 --> 00:25:36,233
concepts and legal theories that
undergird the decisions that are

475
00:25:36,233 --> 00:25:37,265
being made.

476
00:25:37,266 --> 00:25:38,433
The Press:
Jay on that question --

477
00:25:38,433 --> 00:25:39,600
Mr. Carney:
Can I just -- I'm
still with Dan.

478
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,934
The Press:
I just have one more
thing on the budget.

479
00:25:40,934 --> 00:25:45,000
We're at a place now that we've
been at several times over the

480
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last few years when it
comes to fiscal matters,

481
00:25:47,567 --> 00:25:50,567
and that is there is
a looming deadline,

482
00:25:50,567 --> 00:25:53,834
and then the White House will
have meetings with people who

483
00:25:53,834 --> 00:25:56,533
are talking about dire
consequences if something

484
00:25:56,533 --> 00:25:57,533
doesn't happen.

485
00:25:57,533 --> 00:26:00,399
What do you say to the American
people who are just simply

486
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,233
frustrated with the cycle that
they've sort of gotten used to

487
00:26:04,233 --> 00:26:05,966
now for several years?

488
00:26:05,967 --> 00:26:07,467
Mr. Carney:
We agree with their frustration.

489
00:26:07,467 --> 00:26:09,867
The President understands
that frustration.

490
00:26:09,867 --> 00:26:16,800
The dysfunction that often
dominates the way we govern here

491
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,433
in Washington is a source of
frustration to every American

492
00:26:20,433 --> 00:26:23,367
who is paying attention and
every American for whom the

493
00:26:23,367 --> 00:26:27,934
dysfunction has an adverse
effect on how they live their

494
00:26:27,934 --> 00:26:30,266
lives, and maybe
their livelihoods.

495
00:26:30,266 --> 00:26:33,900
That would certainly be the case
if political calculations were

496
00:26:33,900 --> 00:26:38,967
the result of -- resulted in the
sequester kicking in because of

497
00:26:38,967 --> 00:26:44,266
a desire to achieve some sort of
ideological objectives in a way

498
00:26:44,266 --> 00:26:47,767
that would throw a lot of
Americans out of work and do

499
00:26:47,767 --> 00:26:49,700
obvious harm to our economy.

500
00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:51,433
The President talked about
this I think on a couple

501
00:26:51,433 --> 00:26:52,433
of occasions.

502
00:26:52,433 --> 00:26:55,533
He said we have to get out
from under the cloud of crises,

503
00:26:55,533 --> 00:26:59,867
this mode of governing
where we sort of go from,

504
00:26:59,867 --> 00:27:04,066
as you described it, crisis to
crisis in these confrontations.

505
00:27:04,066 --> 00:27:10,033
We need to go about our business
in a way that allows for

506
00:27:10,033 --> 00:27:16,065
compromise, that rejects sort of
absolutist positions that have

507
00:27:16,066 --> 00:27:19,667
no -- adherence to absolutist
positions that won't become law

508
00:27:19,667 --> 00:27:22,399
and that only drive
us to brinksmanship.

509
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,100
The President has practiced
that in his approach,

510
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:29,800
sometimes causing
himself political peril,

511
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,966
but he has believed that that's
the right way to do this.

512
00:27:32,967 --> 00:27:41,066
And going to the aspect of this
that involves reaching out to

513
00:27:41,066 --> 00:27:43,567
people like defense contractors
or traveling around the country

514
00:27:43,567 --> 00:27:49,066
to engage, it's a reminder
that what happens here and the

515
00:27:49,066 --> 00:27:51,734
decisions made, or
the failure to act,

516
00:27:51,734 --> 00:27:56,399
all of this has an effect on
people around the country;

517
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,834
it's not just a parlor
game here in Washington.

518
00:27:58,834 --> 00:28:02,900
These are real-world decisions
that significantly affect our

519
00:28:02,900 --> 00:28:04,667
economy and the American people.

520
00:28:04,667 --> 00:28:08,000
So he would whole-heartedly
agree with the sense of

521
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,600
frustration Americans have
about this kind of governance,

522
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,100
and he hopes that we can
move beyond that and return,

523
00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:19,899
if you will, to sort of more
regular order when it comes to

524
00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:21,767
how we deliberate about
our budget process,

525
00:28:21,767 --> 00:28:25,567
how we move forward on
reducing our deficit.

526
00:28:25,567 --> 00:28:28,767
The options for that -- that
path is open and available.

527
00:28:28,767 --> 00:28:31,333
Compromise is the
way to achieve it.

528
00:28:31,333 --> 00:28:33,200
The Press:
And so is the White House
just pointing the finger --

529
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,567
the blame at Republicans?

530
00:28:34,567 --> 00:28:35,567
Mr. Carney:
No, not at all.

531
00:28:35,567 --> 00:28:38,200
I mean, again, I think if
you saw in the President's

532
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,767
proposals, as he
made clear yesterday,

533
00:28:41,767 --> 00:28:48,400
are on the table to be taken up,
you saw tough decisions for a

534
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,200
Democrat -- a
Democratic President,

535
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,800
you saw a willingness to
compromise in the scope of

536
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,300
revenue that he believes should
be included in a big package,

537
00:28:58,300 --> 00:29:01,867
you saw significant spending
cuts on top of the already

538
00:29:01,867 --> 00:29:05,300
significant spending cuts this 
President has signed into law --

539
00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:10,066
that's the kind of spirit of
compromise that he believes is

540
00:29:10,066 --> 00:29:12,367
required when we're just
trying to get work done for the

541
00:29:12,367 --> 00:29:16,332
American people and trying
not to do harm to the economy,

542
00:29:16,333 --> 00:29:18,633
let alone help the economy,
which is what we should

543
00:29:18,633 --> 00:29:19,633
be doing.

544
00:29:19,633 --> 00:29:22,233
The Press:
Jay, on that question
of the drone strikes,

545
00:29:22,233 --> 00:29:26,633
Senator Wyden today is saying
he's going to "pull out all the

546
00:29:26,633 --> 00:29:29,667
stops" to force the
administration to turn over the

547
00:29:29,667 --> 00:29:31,033
actual legal analysis behind
the justification for the drone

548
00:29:31,033 --> 00:29:35,100
strikes -- not the much
discussed white paper,

549
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:37,632
but the actual legal memos.

550
00:29:37,633 --> 00:29:43,200
That sounds to me like a senator
raising the possibility of

551
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,367
a filibuster.

552
00:29:44,367 --> 00:29:46,200
What is your answer
to Senator Wyden?

553
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,100
Will the Intelligence Committee,
will the Congress get the actual

554
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:53,132
legal analysis used to
justify those strikes?

555
00:29:53,133 --> 00:29:57,033
Mr. Carney:
Well, without discussing
specific actions or cases or

556
00:29:57,033 --> 00:30:01,000
memos, I can say that the
President has been and is

557
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,200
committed to working with
Congress on these matters and to

558
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,233
providing information
to Congress,

559
00:30:06,233 --> 00:30:08,300
and that process continues.

560
00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:09,466
I think it's
important to note --

561
00:30:09,467 --> 00:30:10,900
and I should have
said this yesterday --

562
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:14,033
that when it comes to
some of these matters,

563
00:30:14,033 --> 00:30:20,399
the information that is kept
secret is kept secret for

564
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,533
national security reasons not
to keep it from the American

565
00:30:22,533 --> 00:30:27,466
people, but to keep it from
those who plot daily and

566
00:30:27,467 --> 00:30:30,000
continually to do harm to the
United States and do harm to the

567
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,533
American people.

568
00:30:31,533 --> 00:30:35,033
That is the premise behind which
decisions like that are made.

569
00:30:35,033 --> 00:30:36,966
Having said that, again,
broadly speaking --

570
00:30:36,967 --> 00:30:44,300
not referring to any specific
operation or possible memo or

571
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:48,100
memos -- the President is
committed to continuing to work

572
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:51,966
with Congress to provide
Congress information on these

573
00:30:51,967 --> 00:30:54,900
important matters as he
has been in the past.

574
00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:57,734
The Press:
So Wyden will get his --
the information he wants --

575
00:30:57,734 --> 00:31:02,066
Mr. Carney:
Again, I'm not going to --
I can't and won't talk about

576
00:31:02,066 --> 00:31:05,033
specific operations or specific
memos that may or may not exist.

577
00:31:05,033 --> 00:31:07,600
What I can say is that
the President and this

578
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,100
administration will continue to
work with Congress, as it has,

579
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:19,132
to consult with and provide
information to appropriate

580
00:31:19,133 --> 00:31:22,000
members about these
important, weighty matters.

581
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,900
The Press:
An entirely different subject:
The post office is saying it's

582
00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:28,900
going to do away with
Saturday delivery.

583
00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:31,834
Does the President have a
problem with that decision?

584
00:31:31,834 --> 00:31:33,633
Mr. Carney:
Well, a couple of things.

585
00:31:33,633 --> 00:31:37,767
One, this is a decision --
it's an independent agency,

586
00:31:37,767 --> 00:31:40,533
as you know, the Postal Service,
and this is a decision that

587
00:31:40,533 --> 00:31:43,132
we found out about
here just yesterday.

588
00:31:43,133 --> 00:31:44,967
And I'm looking -- I have a
little more information for

589
00:31:44,967 --> 00:31:50,433
you on it.

590
00:31:50,433 --> 00:31:52,166
So let me just make that point.

591
00:31:52,166 --> 00:31:57,899
The second point is that we put
forward a year and a half ago a

592
00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:01,900
series of proposals for reform
of the Postal Service that would

593
00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:09,600
put it on much more firm
financial ground and it passed

594
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,567
the Senate.

595
00:32:10,567 --> 00:32:13,700
Unfortunately, the House
failed to take it up.

596
00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:18,066
So it would be our preference
that that comprehensive package

597
00:32:18,066 --> 00:32:23,667
of reforms be implemented for
the sake of a stronger future

598
00:32:23,667 --> 00:32:24,667
Postal Service.

599
00:32:24,667 --> 00:32:27,766
But we're looking at this
particular action now and can't

600
00:32:27,767 --> 00:32:29,867
really evaluate it yet since
we just found out about

601
00:32:29,867 --> 00:32:31,200
it yesterday.

602
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,233
Yes.

603
00:32:32,233 --> 00:32:33,767
The Press:
You mentioned a minute ago that
the President wants to put a

604
00:32:33,767 --> 00:32:37,500
legal architecture in place
for the drone strikes.

605
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:39,166
What steps is he
taking to do that?

606
00:32:39,166 --> 00:32:40,966
Is he proposing
something to Congress?

607
00:32:40,967 --> 00:32:43,533
Is he asking them
to come up with it?

608
00:32:43,533 --> 00:32:46,399
Mr. Carney:
Again, I think this is -- I was
quoting the President and this

609
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,900
is something that he and
others have talked about.

610
00:32:49,900 --> 00:32:53,467
Mr. Brennan has said in the past
that we're trying to right now

611
00:32:53,467 --> 00:32:54,900
-- "What we're trying to do
right now is to have a set of

612
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:57,834
standards, a set of criteria and
have a decision-making process

613
00:32:57,834 --> 00:33:00,633
that will govern our
counterterrorism actions so that

614
00:33:00,633 --> 00:33:02,734
irrespective of the venue
where they're taking place,

615
00:33:02,734 --> 00:33:04,567
we have a high confidence that
they're being done for the

616
00:33:04,567 --> 00:33:06,433
rights reasons in
the right way."

617
00:33:06,433 --> 00:33:07,433
So this --

618
00:33:07,433 --> 00:33:09,033
The Press:
Would you agree to getting
Congress involved in it?

619
00:33:09,033 --> 00:33:11,934
Mr. Carney:
Well, I think that
the answer is yes.

620
00:33:11,934 --> 00:33:16,233
Again, quoting the President, he
said last fall that there is a

621
00:33:16,233 --> 00:33:20,133
-- that it requires
consultations with Congress that

622
00:33:20,133 --> 00:33:22,700
this -- and that's why
going to Jon's question,

623
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:26,767
that we have been and will
continue to be engaging with

624
00:33:26,767 --> 00:33:28,600
Congress on these
important matters.

625
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,867
What that structure looks
like and timelines on it,

626
00:33:32,867 --> 00:33:35,399
I don't have information
for you today about,

627
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,266
but it is something that the
President considers a lot and

628
00:33:39,266 --> 00:33:40,166
takes very seriously.

629
00:33:40,166 --> 00:33:41,767
The Press:
But are these
deliberations underway?

630
00:33:41,767 --> 00:33:43,066
Mr. Carney:
Yes, they are.

631
00:33:43,066 --> 00:33:44,166
The Press:
I mean, have you
gone to Congress and opened

632
00:33:44,166 --> 00:33:45,300
these discussions?

633
00:33:45,300 --> 00:33:46,966
Mr. Carney:
Well, again, I don't have any
modalities to report to you in

634
00:33:46,967 --> 00:33:49,266
terms of specific
conversations or meetings.

635
00:33:49,266 --> 00:33:53,500
But as Mr. Brennan and the
President have discussed,

636
00:33:53,500 --> 00:34:00,600
this is something that has been
underway and will continue to

637
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,800
occupy a fair amount of time
for people involved here,

638
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,834
because it is the desire of this
President to make sure that we

639
00:34:06,834 --> 00:34:13,300
have an architecture in place
that governs these issues not

640
00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:15,000
just for this President
and this administration,

641
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,100
but for the future.

642
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:19,500
The Press:
But just to clear, he wants to
write rules for this kind of --

643
00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:21,600
Mr. Carney:
Again, I don't have --
to use that fancy word,

644
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,533
I don't have the
modalities here.

645
00:34:23,533 --> 00:34:28,033
I don't know -- or I don't
have for you today what

646
00:34:28,033 --> 00:34:30,199
that looks like.

647
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:32,332
It has been described
as a playbook.

648
00:34:32,333 --> 00:34:34,500
It has been described
as a set of standards.

649
00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:39,333
But what it does represent, the
effort itself represents I think

650
00:34:39,333 --> 00:34:42,667
the thoughtfulness and
seriousness with which this

651
00:34:42,667 --> 00:34:46,065
administration, led
by this President,

652
00:34:46,065 --> 00:34:47,899
approaches these issues.

653
00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:49,066
The Press:
Just one other question here.

654
00:34:49,065 --> 00:34:52,299
A few days ago you
were asked about the --

655
00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:54,834
Mr. Carney:
You're not going to throw
my words back on me?

656
00:34:54,833 --> 00:34:57,299
The Press:
-- remodeling of the West Wing
and temporary quarters for

657
00:34:57,300 --> 00:34:58,300
the President.

658
00:34:58,300 --> 00:34:59,934
You referred us to GSA.

659
00:34:59,934 --> 00:35:02,433
They have been completely
uncommunicative on the issue.

660
00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:04,734
Do you have anything more on it?

661
00:35:04,734 --> 00:35:07,500
And should we expect
something from them?

662
00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:10,800
Mr. Carney:
Well, let me just say that as a
rule with renovations and things

663
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,934
like that and just work
being done on this complex,

664
00:35:14,934 --> 00:35:17,500
we do refer
reporters to the GSA.

665
00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:18,400
That's their --

666
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,500
The Press:
Yes, well, it doesn't
do us any good.

667
00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:20,700
Mr. Carney:
But I can say
specifically there --

668
00:35:20,700 --> 00:35:26,133
the reports about a replica
Oval Office are false,

669
00:35:26,133 --> 00:35:29,567
and no one is moving
from the West Wing.

670
00:35:29,567 --> 00:35:33,266
Certainly, no decisions about
that have been made and not in

671
00:35:33,266 --> 00:35:35,266
any timeframe that --

672
00:35:35,266 --> 00:35:36,467
The Press:
You're saying that no one
is moving from the West Wing,

673
00:35:36,467 --> 00:35:37,867
you mean including
the President?

674
00:35:37,867 --> 00:35:39,200
Mr. Carney:
Including the President.

675
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,866
The Press:
Even though renovations
may be made?

676
00:35:40,867 --> 00:35:43,133
Mr. Carney:
Well, again, I don't have --
for what kinds of renovations --

677
00:35:43,133 --> 00:35:44,700
I mean, you guys have looked
around and seen that there's

678
00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:48,399
constant work being undertaken
here on the overall campus,

679
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,367
but I don't have
anything specific.

680
00:35:50,367 --> 00:35:53,667
But because this issue, because
of the description of an alleged

681
00:35:53,667 --> 00:35:57,700
replica Oval Office
was reported out,

682
00:35:57,700 --> 00:35:59,366
I can tell you
that that is false.

683
00:35:59,367 --> 00:36:00,800
The Press:
Temporary office
quarters for him?

684
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,633
Mr. Carney:
Again, I just don't have any
more information for you.

685
00:36:02,633 --> 00:36:05,667
It's not something
that's on my radar.

686
00:36:05,667 --> 00:36:08,433
I would refer you for
more details to the GSA.

687
00:36:08,433 --> 00:36:09,700
The Press:
That hasn't worked.

688
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:12,500
Perhaps you could ask
them to help us out?

689
00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:15,867
Mr. Carney:
I will -- I'm sure
they know now,

690
00:36:15,867 --> 00:36:18,266
because they're probably
watching, that this has come up.

691
00:36:18,266 --> 00:36:19,266
(laughter)

692
00:36:19,266 --> 00:36:20,066
The Press:
Let's hope.

693
00:36:20,066 --> 00:36:21,100
Mr. Carney:
So we'll see what happens.

694
00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:23,165
The Press:
Come on, guys.

695
00:36:23,166 --> 00:36:24,767
Mr. Carney:
Sorry, who do I have here?

696
00:36:24,767 --> 00:36:25,767
Yes, Peter.

697
00:36:25,767 --> 00:36:26,533
The Press:
Thank you, Jay.

698
00:36:26,533 --> 00:36:29,400
The President is making a
Cabinet appointment today.

699
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,633
Does he feel now that he has a
team in place in the Cabinet and

700
00:36:32,633 --> 00:36:36,232
senior staff that reflects
the gender balance and racial

701
00:36:36,233 --> 00:36:39,467
balance that he wants to
see in his senior team?

702
00:36:39,467 --> 00:36:44,033
And does he have a team that
looks like America, so to speak?

703
00:36:44,033 --> 00:36:45,433
Mr. Carney:
Well, I think the
President has addressed this,

704
00:36:45,433 --> 00:36:48,834
and his views are quite clear,
which he believes that diversity

705
00:36:48,834 --> 00:36:56,933
is important because it improves
the quality of debate and

706
00:36:56,934 --> 00:37:01,233
therefore the quality
of decision-making.

707
00:37:01,233 --> 00:37:09,834
And he seeks excellent personnel
to fill all of these positions,

708
00:37:09,834 --> 00:37:15,066
and he certainly believes he has
found an excellent candidate in

709
00:37:15,066 --> 00:37:17,633
Sally Jewell, who will be
announced as the Interior

710
00:37:17,633 --> 00:37:20,366
Secretary later today.

711
00:37:20,367 --> 00:37:22,700
She is uniquely
qualified for that job.

712
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:24,834
With years of experiencing
managing a nearly

713
00:37:24,834 --> 00:37:27,466
$2 billion-a-year company, she
will bring to the position

714
00:37:27,467 --> 00:37:29,467
integrity, keen
management skills,

715
00:37:29,467 --> 00:37:31,600
as well as dedication to
the Department's mission of

716
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,734
managing our nation's lands.

717
00:37:33,734 --> 00:37:37,232
Trained as an engineer, Jewell
has broad private sector

718
00:37:37,233 --> 00:37:39,367
experience in
energy and finance,

719
00:37:39,367 --> 00:37:41,700
as well as a commitment
to conservation.

720
00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:43,866
So the President looks forward
to making that announcement

721
00:37:43,867 --> 00:37:45,066
later today.

722
00:37:45,066 --> 00:37:46,133
Ari.

723
00:37:46,133 --> 00:37:48,332
The Press:
The Pentagon is expected this
week to announce same-sex --

724
00:37:48,333 --> 00:37:51,200
benefits for same-sex
spouses, rather.

725
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,866
A group in Congress has been
open about pushing the Defense

726
00:37:53,867 --> 00:37:55,367
Secretary to do this.

727
00:37:55,367 --> 00:37:57,467
Was the White House involved in
pushing the Pentagon to do this,

728
00:37:57,467 --> 00:38:00,433
and do you have any reaction
to the step that is expected?

729
00:38:00,433 --> 00:38:05,433
Mr. Carney:
I think I would refer you to
the Pentagon for an announcement

730
00:38:05,433 --> 00:38:06,433
that they haven't made yet.

731
00:38:06,433 --> 00:38:09,934
So I don't have anything for
you on that at this point.

732
00:38:09,934 --> 00:38:11,367
The Press:
Are you pleased to hear
that it's going to happen?

733
00:38:11,367 --> 00:38:13,066
Mr. Carney:
Well, I think in answer to
questions I've had previously,

734
00:38:13,066 --> 00:38:15,366
the President has been very
attentive to this issue and

735
00:38:15,367 --> 00:38:18,767
believes that it
needs to be addressed.

736
00:38:18,767 --> 00:38:22,066
So I don't want to get
ahead of any announcements,

737
00:38:22,066 --> 00:38:26,466
but it is certainly something
that has been on the President's

738
00:38:26,467 --> 00:38:30,233
radar and that he believes
needed to be and needs to

739
00:38:30,233 --> 00:38:31,433
be addressed.

740
00:38:31,433 --> 00:38:32,533
The Press:
A follow on Middle East?

741
00:38:32,533 --> 00:38:33,433
Mr. Carney:
Okay.

742
00:38:33,433 --> 00:38:34,500
Connie.

743
00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:35,700
The Press:
I've got three.

744
00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:37,232
First on Israel, does the
President expect to put any

745
00:38:37,233 --> 00:38:39,633
pressure on the
settlements issue?

746
00:38:39,633 --> 00:38:43,866
Mr. Carney:
Again, I don't have a preview
this many weeks in advance of

747
00:38:43,867 --> 00:38:49,066
the conversations that he will
have with officials in Israel.

748
00:38:49,066 --> 00:38:51,265
I think that, as
we said yesterday,

749
00:38:51,266 --> 00:38:55,967
we expect that Iran and Syria
will be topics of conversation,

750
00:38:55,967 --> 00:39:00,133
but I'm sure a variety of
issues will be discussed,

751
00:39:00,133 --> 00:39:03,133
as they always are, when the
President meets with Prime

752
00:39:03,133 --> 00:39:06,500
Minister Netanyahu and
other Israeli leaders.

753
00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:09,567
And that is certainly the case
when he meets with Palestinian

754
00:39:09,567 --> 00:39:10,700
Authority officials.

755
00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:14,165
But I don't have a -- it's
far too early to give you a

756
00:39:14,166 --> 00:39:16,834
tick-tock in advance of a
meeting that won't happen for a

757
00:39:16,834 --> 00:39:18,066
number of weeks.

758
00:39:18,066 --> 00:39:19,399
The Press:
Two on Iran.

759
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:24,400
What are your thoughts about
Ahmadinejad's visit to Egypt?

760
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,367
Mr. Carney:
What are my thoughts about it?

761
00:39:26,367 --> 00:39:28,633
Do you have a broader -- or
more specific question, rather?

762
00:39:28,633 --> 00:39:30,433
The Press:
Does the U.S. still plan to
support Egypt with military and

763
00:39:30,433 --> 00:39:31,700
financial aid?

764
00:39:31,700 --> 00:39:36,866
Mr. Carney:
Well, our position on support
for Egypt is a support for an

765
00:39:36,867 --> 00:39:44,734
ally that is in the process
of a transition from years of

766
00:39:44,734 --> 00:39:48,400
autocratic rule to democracy.

767
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,100
We made clear our
views on these issues,

768
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:54,700
as we have recently during
some of the protests and unrest

769
00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:55,700
in Egypt.

770
00:39:55,700 --> 00:40:03,700
And we believe that Egypt's
commitment to its obligations

771
00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:06,433
and its treaties are very
important and that the process

772
00:40:06,433 --> 00:40:10,367
needs to continue in Egypt so
that Egyptians are allowed to

773
00:40:10,367 --> 00:40:14,700
realize a future that is
democratic and more prosperous.

774
00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:16,399
The Press:
But is the U.S. still going to
give several billion dollars in

775
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,467
aid to Egypt?

776
00:40:18,467 --> 00:40:23,333
Mr. Carney:
We're making no changes in our
aid program based on a visit by

777
00:40:23,333 --> 00:40:24,333
a foreign leader.

778
00:40:24,333 --> 00:40:25,467
The Press:
One more on Iran.

779
00:40:25,467 --> 00:40:27,533
As I was walking here, there's a
small group of demonstrators who

780
00:40:27,533 --> 00:40:31,400
are demonstrating for the pastor
who's been put in jail for eight

781
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,400
years, chanting "Christianity
is not a crime."

782
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,834
Does the U.S. have any leverage
at all to try to get this man

783
00:40:36,834 --> 00:40:38,000
out of jail?

784
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,400
Mr. Carney:
Well, the State Department
has been taking the lead on

785
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:41,400
this matter.

786
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,200
I've answered questions about
this several times in the last

787
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:48,366
couple of weeks, and it is
of concern to the President,

788
00:40:48,367 --> 00:40:50,533
to the White House,
to the administration,

789
00:40:50,533 --> 00:40:52,700
and we have made clear
our view on this.

790
00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:58,100
But for specifics in
terms what we're doing,

791
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:00,967
I would refer you to
the State Department.

792
00:41:00,967 --> 00:41:02,133
Phil.

793
00:41:02,133 --> 00:41:04,332
The Press:
As a follow-up to the
question about the Cabinet,

794
00:41:04,333 --> 00:41:08,100
you mentioned Sally Jewell's
experience in the private sector

795
00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:10,799
and business, and I'm wondering
if the President feels that

796
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,533
that's enough private sector
experience in his Cabinet,

797
00:41:13,533 --> 00:41:16,967
or if he's looking to fill some
of these other positions with

798
00:41:16,967 --> 00:41:18,000
business leaders --

799
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,166
Mr. Carney:
I have no announcements or
hints to give about future

800
00:41:22,166 --> 00:41:23,667
personnel decisions.

801
00:41:23,667 --> 00:41:26,133
The Press:
But is that a satisfactory
amount of business experience?

802
00:41:26,133 --> 00:41:27,966
Mr. Carney:
The President doesn't
look at it that way.

803
00:41:27,967 --> 00:41:31,800
He looks at finding the best
people with the best experience

804
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,467
possible for each position.

805
00:41:34,467 --> 00:41:37,133
He, as I said in answer
to the question earlier,

806
00:41:37,133 --> 00:41:42,299
believes that diversity is an
important goal because diversity

807
00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:46,000
enhances debate and enhances
the decision-making process.

808
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:52,233
But I don't have any previews
to provide on future

809
00:41:52,233 --> 00:41:53,567
personnel decisions.

810
00:41:53,567 --> 00:41:55,900
The Press:
And any kind of timeframe for
how quickly he's going to --

811
00:41:55,900 --> 00:41:58,100
Mr. Carney:
I don't have that either.

812
00:41:58,100 --> 00:41:59,066
Roger.

813
00:41:59,066 --> 00:42:00,332
The Press:
Thank you.

814
00:42:00,333 --> 00:42:02,700
Back to the Postal
Service for a moment.

815
00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:06,433
The budget last year
endorsed an end to Saturday

816
00:42:06,433 --> 00:42:07,934
delivery of mail.

817
00:42:07,934 --> 00:42:09,500
Is that the administration's
-- still the

818
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:10,967
administration's position?

819
00:42:10,967 --> 00:42:15,500
Mr. Carney:
Well, I was referring to a
package of provisions and

820
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:21,233
reforms that we put forward; the
Senate passed a version of this.

821
00:42:21,233 --> 00:42:23,000
But the package is
what's important.

822
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,500
It is true that as part of these
reforms that we've proposed,

823
00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:28,400
that change in delivery
service was included.

824
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,066
But the overall package is
what's important because the

825
00:42:31,066 --> 00:42:35,966
issue is -- again, I'm not
judging at this point because

826
00:42:35,967 --> 00:42:38,734
we're reviewing the action
announced by the Postal Service,

827
00:42:38,734 --> 00:42:44,533
but our view was that there need
to be a series of actions taken

828
00:42:44,533 --> 00:42:50,066
to help make the Postal
Service more financially sound.

829
00:42:50,066 --> 00:42:52,433
And that's why we put together
that package of proposals.

830
00:42:52,433 --> 00:42:58,166
So it was one element of a more
complete set of actions that we

831
00:42:58,166 --> 00:43:01,266
regret the House
failed to act on.

832
00:43:01,266 --> 00:43:02,300
The Press:
A follow-up.

833
00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:06,900
The Postal Service says that it
has its own authority to decree

834
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:08,800
an end to Saturday
mail delivery,

835
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,133
but legislation on
the Hill is split.

836
00:43:12,133 --> 00:43:14,265
Does the administration
take a position on that?

837
00:43:14,266 --> 00:43:16,600
Mr. Carney:
Again, this is related to a
decision they just announced and

838
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,633
we just found out about,
and we're reviewing it.

839
00:43:18,633 --> 00:43:20,133
The Press:
How did you find out about it?

840
00:43:20,133 --> 00:43:21,000
The Press:
Yesterday.

841
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:21,934
You said yesterday.

842
00:43:21,934 --> 00:43:23,066
Mr. Carney:
It was yesterday.

843
00:43:23,066 --> 00:43:25,700
I'm not sure through what means,
but it was only yesterday.

844
00:43:25,700 --> 00:43:28,834
The Press:
But does the White House
agree with the Postal Service

845
00:43:28,834 --> 00:43:30,799
that it has --

846
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,867
Mr. Carney:
Again, you're asking me for
a legal judgment here that we

847
00:43:33,867 --> 00:43:34,800
have not made.

848
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,300
We're reviewing the decision
-- or the announcement.

849
00:43:37,300 --> 00:43:38,533
April.

850
00:43:38,533 --> 00:43:41,165
The Press:
Jay, on immigration, there is
a longstanding issue about the

851
00:43:41,166 --> 00:43:44,767
Haitian immigrants who were
turned away from U.S. shores.

852
00:43:44,767 --> 00:43:47,299
Wade Henderson was part of the
group meeting with the President

853
00:43:47,300 --> 00:43:48,934
yesterday, a group
of progressives,

854
00:43:48,934 --> 00:43:51,467
and he said that issue is
on the table about the

855
00:43:51,467 --> 00:43:53,333
Haitian immigrants.

856
00:43:53,333 --> 00:43:56,800
They've been turned away
from U.S. shores when Cuban

857
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,533
immigrants are allowed to come.

858
00:43:58,533 --> 00:44:00,066
What is on the table?

859
00:44:00,066 --> 00:44:01,966
What is the President
considering when he deals with

860
00:44:01,967 --> 00:44:04,967
the issue of the
Haitian immigrants?

861
00:44:04,967 --> 00:44:08,600
Mr. Carney:
You've seen what the President's
comprehensive immigration reform

862
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:09,700
package looks like.

863
00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:11,265
I haven't had that
discussion with him,

864
00:44:11,266 --> 00:44:14,066
so I would have to
take the question.

865
00:44:14,066 --> 00:44:18,567
Obviously, this is a process
that we're hoping will continue

866
00:44:18,567 --> 00:44:20,300
in the Senate in
a bipartisan way.

867
00:44:20,300 --> 00:44:26,100
The President has made clear
that he wants to give the Senate

868
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:29,299
space here and time here to
continue the progress they've

869
00:44:29,300 --> 00:44:33,867
made, but that he will also,
if he perceives that action is

870
00:44:33,867 --> 00:44:37,533
stalling or not happening
at all in the Congress,

871
00:44:37,533 --> 00:44:40,100
that he is prepared to
submit his own legislation.

872
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:42,165
I just don't have anything for
you on that specific issue.

873
00:44:42,166 --> 00:44:44,033
The Press:
And a follow-up on that, though.

874
00:44:44,033 --> 00:44:46,799
For such a long time, the
face of immigration --

875
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,633
or immigration reform has
been the Hispanic community.

876
00:44:50,633 --> 00:44:54,366
We see that the Asian community
is involved now and the African

877
00:44:54,367 --> 00:44:56,133
American community
is involved now,

878
00:44:56,133 --> 00:44:57,433
and there is that component.

879
00:44:57,433 --> 00:45:01,734
What else is the President
willing to give to those

880
00:45:01,734 --> 00:45:03,799
communities -- the Asian or
the black communities --

881
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,767
in the way of immigration
reform along with the

882
00:45:06,767 --> 00:45:09,433
Hispanic community?

883
00:45:09,433 --> 00:45:12,066
Mr. Carney:
April, I think comprehensive
immigration reform is not about

884
00:45:12,066 --> 00:45:17,366
a specific community, it's
about a problem that we need to

885
00:45:17,367 --> 00:45:18,934
address as a whole.

886
00:45:18,934 --> 00:45:24,500
We have a system that is broken,
and there have been bipartisan

887
00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:27,233
efforts in the
past to address it.

888
00:45:27,233 --> 00:45:31,333
We hope that we are at a point
now where a bipartisan effort

889
00:45:31,333 --> 00:45:33,800
can move forward
again to address it;

890
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:38,834
that follows the principles and
the specifics that the President

891
00:45:38,834 --> 00:45:40,332
has laid out.

892
00:45:40,333 --> 00:45:42,867
So, again, this is not
about one community here,

893
00:45:42,867 --> 00:45:45,900
this is about an American
problem that affects all of us.

894
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:51,233
It affects our economy, it
affects fairness for the middle

895
00:45:51,233 --> 00:45:54,800
class, it affects our
businesses directly,

896
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,000
and it affects those who don't
have legal status here in the

897
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:05,800
United States, and with all the
impacts that that fact has on

898
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,100
our economy and our nation.

899
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:13,232
So we need to address this
comprehensively, not narrowly,

900
00:46:13,233 --> 00:46:18,133
precisely because of the
scope of the challenge.

901
00:46:18,133 --> 00:46:21,165
And that's the best way to get
something done in Congress.

902
00:46:21,166 --> 00:46:22,533
The Press:
But just to be clear, the
reason why I asked that,

903
00:46:22,533 --> 00:46:24,933
he did have the Asian community
and the black community,

904
00:46:24,934 --> 00:46:27,233
and the Hispanic community
out there represented,

905
00:46:27,233 --> 00:46:30,333
coming together because each
community has a large number of

906
00:46:30,333 --> 00:46:32,934
undocumenteds in this country.

907
00:46:32,934 --> 00:46:35,266
So you're saying you're not --

908
00:46:35,266 --> 00:46:39,900
Mr. Carney:
I think your question
reflects my answer,

909
00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:43,000
which is that this is a -- when
it comes to immigration in this

910
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,500
country, it's not about
a specific community,

911
00:46:44,500 --> 00:46:47,000
it's about a broader issue.

912
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,700
The Press:
Thanks, Jay.

913
00:46:48,700 --> 00:46:51,033
Mr. Carney:
Kathleen, I think I was going to
call on you, and then I'll go.

914
00:46:51,033 --> 00:46:53,000
The Press:
Just one more on the
announcement later today.

915
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,367
I think Bruce Babbitt is quoted
in the Times this morning or

916
00:46:57,367 --> 00:46:59,433
today criticizing
the administration,

917
00:46:59,433 --> 00:47:03,934
saying that in the tug-of-war
over opening lands to oil and

918
00:47:03,934 --> 00:47:07,333
gas and protecting lands, that
industry has been winning

919
00:47:07,333 --> 00:47:08,400
too often.

920
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,900
I'm wondering what
you'd say to that.

921
00:47:09,900 --> 00:47:13,934
And then if his nominee -- the
choice of nominee signals any

922
00:47:13,934 --> 00:47:16,166
change in policy on that front?

923
00:47:16,166 --> 00:47:23,133
The Press:
I think the President is rightly
proud about the fact that oil

924
00:47:23,133 --> 00:47:26,133
and gas production since he's
taken office here at home has

925
00:47:26,133 --> 00:47:29,633
increased each year, and
domestic oil production is

926
00:47:29,633 --> 00:47:32,866
currently higher than at
any time in nearly a decade,

927
00:47:32,867 --> 00:47:35,867
and natural gas production
is at an all-time high.

928
00:47:35,867 --> 00:47:40,433
The United States is less
dependent on foreign oil than at

929
00:47:40,433 --> 00:47:43,367
any time in nearly two decades.

930
00:47:43,367 --> 00:47:48,633
Those are very important
developments for our economy and

931
00:47:48,633 --> 00:47:52,100
our energy security.

932
00:47:52,100 --> 00:47:56,133
It is also the case that
this President has pursued

933
00:47:56,133 --> 00:48:02,000
development of energy at home
in a responsible and safe way.

934
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:09,066
He believes that that is vital
as we continue to make ourselves

935
00:48:09,066 --> 00:48:10,767
more energy independent.

936
00:48:10,767 --> 00:48:15,966
So both of these
principles are --

937
00:48:15,967 --> 00:48:17,100
move forward together.

938
00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:21,900
And the President believes that
in implementing our approach to

939
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conservation as well as
implementing our approach to

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energy, Sally Jewell will be
an excellent Secretary of the

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Interior in carrying
that agenda forward.

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Thanks all.