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1 00:00:00,867 --> 00:00:02,937 Mr. Earnest: Good afternoon, everybody. 2 00:00:02,936 --> 00:00:05,406 It's nice to see all of you. 3 00:00:05,405 --> 00:00:07,005 For those of you who are paying close attention 4 00:00:07,006 --> 00:00:08,346 to my personal schedule today, you know that 5 00:00:08,341 --> 00:00:11,041 I went and appeared at a forum with the Center 6 00:00:11,044 --> 00:00:14,914 of American Progress to talk about men and fathers 7 00:00:14,914 --> 00:00:17,484 and work-life family balance. 8 00:00:17,484 --> 00:00:19,484 I'm much less nervous sitting here talking 9 00:00:19,486 --> 00:00:21,486 to you about a range of foreign policy issues, 10 00:00:21,488 --> 00:00:23,628 and even some domestic ones, than I am talking 11 00:00:23,623 --> 00:00:25,793 about my personal life with my wife 12 00:00:25,792 --> 00:00:27,292 and child in the front row. 13 00:00:27,293 --> 00:00:29,633 So for one day I can at least walk in here and 14 00:00:29,629 --> 00:00:30,969 say I'm relieved to see all of you. 15 00:00:30,964 --> 00:00:32,264 (laughter) 16 00:00:32,265 --> 00:00:33,465 The Press: How did you do? 17 00:00:33,466 --> 00:00:35,306 Mr. Earnest: You should ask my wife. 18 00:00:35,301 --> 00:00:38,871 She may have a more unbiased assessment. 19 00:00:38,872 --> 00:00:40,072 Julie, you want to get us started today? 20 00:00:40,073 --> 00:00:41,073 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 21 00:00:41,074 --> 00:00:43,714 I had a couple questions on Islamic State and Jordan. 22 00:00:43,710 --> 00:00:46,010 Congressional lawmakers are calling for increased 23 00:00:46,012 --> 00:00:49,682 military assistance to Jordan, including weapons. 24 00:00:49,682 --> 00:00:54,822 Would the President support that? 25 00:00:54,821 --> 00:00:58,521 Mr. Earnest: Well, Julie, we do have a very powerful 26 00:00:58,525 --> 00:01:00,395 and important counterterrorism 27 00:01:00,393 --> 00:01:03,493 and security relationship with the nation of Jordan, 28 00:01:03,496 --> 00:01:07,766 and that relationship has significantly benefitted 29 00:01:07,767 --> 00:01:09,807 American national security interests throughout 30 00:01:09,803 --> 00:01:11,103 the Middle East. 31 00:01:11,104 --> 00:01:13,904 We have also found that Jordan has been a strong 32 00:01:13,907 --> 00:01:18,147 partner when it comes to our broader international 33 00:01:18,144 --> 00:01:20,884 coalition against ISIL. 34 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,450 We've talked about -- and, tragically, it's been 35 00:01:24,451 --> 00:01:30,091 widely discussed -- that Jordanian military pilots 36 00:01:30,089 --> 00:01:32,929 are flying alongside American military pilots, 37 00:01:32,926 --> 00:01:36,096 striking ISIL targets in Syria. 38 00:01:36,095 --> 00:01:38,995 That is just one indication of the depth 39 00:01:38,998 --> 00:01:43,168 of the commitment from the Jordanian people 40 00:01:43,169 --> 00:01:44,369 to this broader effort. 41 00:01:44,370 --> 00:01:46,510 And we certainly value that relationship 42 00:01:46,506 --> 00:01:50,346 and we certainly are interested in maintaining the strong 43 00:01:50,343 --> 00:01:52,343 military-to-military national security ties 44 00:01:52,345 --> 00:01:53,345 that we have with that country. 45 00:01:53,346 --> 00:01:54,546 The Press: But do you feel that there is a need 46 00:01:54,547 --> 00:01:56,647 to increase military assistance to Jordan, 47 00:01:56,649 --> 00:01:59,719 specifically, by giving them more weapons? 48 00:01:59,719 --> 00:02:01,219 Mr. Earnest: Well, I don't know if they -- 49 00:02:01,221 --> 00:02:03,021 I'm not aware of any specific requests that 50 00:02:03,022 --> 00:02:04,692 the Jordanians have made for additional -- 51 00:02:04,691 --> 00:02:05,791 The Press: Because lawmakers on Capitol Hill 52 00:02:05,792 --> 00:02:07,962 are talking about pulling something together on this. 53 00:02:07,961 --> 00:02:09,191 Mr. Earnest: Well, we certainly would consider 54 00:02:09,195 --> 00:02:10,865 anything that they were to put forward, 55 00:02:10,864 --> 00:02:13,334 but I do think what would drive a decision like that 56 00:02:13,333 --> 00:02:16,603 is a specific request from our partners in Jordan. 57 00:02:16,603 --> 00:02:18,443 The Press: You talked about the commitment from 58 00:02:18,438 --> 00:02:22,408 Jordan to fly and launch airstrikes. 59 00:02:22,408 --> 00:02:24,978 The UAE, which had been part of that coalition, 60 00:02:24,978 --> 00:02:26,648 has stopped doing that. 61 00:02:26,646 --> 00:02:29,146 What does that say about the strength of this coalition? 62 00:02:29,148 --> 00:02:31,318 And what's the reason that the UAE has given the 63 00:02:31,317 --> 00:02:33,887 U.S. for stopping launching airstrikes? 64 00:02:33,887 --> 00:02:35,457 Mr. Earnest: I did see that announcement from 65 00:02:35,455 --> 00:02:37,825 the Emiratis, and I would refer you to them for the 66 00:02:37,824 --> 00:02:39,394 latest update in terms of their military 67 00:02:39,392 --> 00:02:40,792 participation in the campaign. 68 00:02:40,793 --> 00:02:42,693 But I don't think people should take away from that 69 00:02:42,695 --> 00:02:45,365 announcement that the commitment from the 70 00:02:45,365 --> 00:02:48,205 Emiratis and other Arab countries in the region 71 00:02:48,201 --> 00:02:50,341 to this broader coalition has waned in any way. 72 00:02:50,336 --> 00:02:52,576 There's a very important role for the Emiratis 73 00:02:52,572 --> 00:02:56,772 to play in terms of the range of other aspects of our 74 00:02:56,776 --> 00:02:59,646 counter-ISIL strategy that requires broad 75 00:02:59,646 --> 00:03:00,916 international support. 76 00:03:00,914 --> 00:03:02,814 So whether it's providing humanitarian assistance 77 00:03:02,815 --> 00:03:06,115 to those who have been displaced by ISIL's 78 00:03:06,119 --> 00:03:10,819 violence, or helping us in the fight against foreign 79 00:03:10,823 --> 00:03:14,893 fighters, or working to try to counter the 80 00:03:14,894 --> 00:03:17,094 messaging from ISIL that it attempts to radicalize 81 00:03:17,096 --> 00:03:18,866 people all across the globe, that there's still 82 00:03:18,865 --> 00:03:22,035 and continues to be an important role for the 83 00:03:22,035 --> 00:03:24,035 United Arab Emirates to play in this broad, 84 00:03:24,037 --> 00:03:25,037 international coalition. 85 00:03:25,038 --> 00:03:27,038 The Press: Just as a matter of transparency, 86 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,980 the military was still listing the UAE on daily 87 00:03:29,976 --> 00:03:32,146 news releases as being part of the coalition 88 00:03:32,145 --> 00:03:33,585 launching airstrikes against Syria, even after 89 00:03:33,580 --> 00:03:35,580 they had stopped doing that. 90 00:03:35,582 --> 00:03:37,052 Are there other countries that were part of this 91 00:03:37,050 --> 00:03:38,180 coalition that have changed their 92 00:03:38,184 --> 00:03:40,184 participation that we don't know about? 93 00:03:40,186 --> 00:03:43,186 Mr. Earnest: Well, not that I'm aware of. 94 00:03:43,189 --> 00:03:45,629 But obviously what we have tried to do, aside from 95 00:03:45,625 --> 00:03:47,865 some of the documentation that you just cited, 96 00:03:47,860 --> 00:03:51,200 is to allow the individual countries to discuss 97 00:03:51,197 --> 00:03:56,367 in detail the kind of military operations that 98 00:03:56,369 --> 00:03:58,609 they're engaged in on a daily basis. 99 00:03:58,605 --> 00:04:00,375 My guess is, without knowing exactly which 100 00:04:00,373 --> 00:04:02,473 document you're referring to, it might have been 101 00:04:02,475 --> 00:04:05,075 a list of the countries that had to date participated 102 00:04:05,078 --> 00:04:08,678 in military airstrikes alongside American 103 00:04:08,681 --> 00:04:09,681 military pilots. 104 00:04:09,682 --> 00:04:12,152 The Press: At this point, all of the countries that 105 00:04:12,151 --> 00:04:14,151 you have said are participating 106 00:04:14,153 --> 00:04:16,193 in airstrikes, besides the UAE, are still part 107 00:04:16,189 --> 00:04:17,189 of that effort? 108 00:04:17,190 --> 00:04:18,190 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, I'm going to let the 109 00:04:18,191 --> 00:04:21,891 individual countries speak to the detailed sort 110 00:04:21,894 --> 00:04:24,434 of day-by-day accounting of their military activities 111 00:04:24,430 --> 00:04:26,430 and their participation in military operations. 112 00:04:26,432 --> 00:04:28,432 The Press: And just one more on this topic. 113 00:04:28,434 --> 00:04:30,604 Is the White House or the President giving any 114 00:04:30,603 --> 00:04:33,743 consideration to increasing the resources 115 00:04:33,740 --> 00:04:36,180 that you have in the region to be available 116 00:04:36,175 --> 00:04:39,375 to rescue pilots if a plane were to go down? 117 00:04:39,379 --> 00:04:41,819 Mr. Earnest: Well, I know that there has been some 118 00:04:41,814 --> 00:04:43,784 reporting that raised questions about whether 119 00:04:43,783 --> 00:04:46,283 or not there was sufficient resources available to try 120 00:04:46,285 --> 00:04:49,285 to rescue Captain Kasasbeh when his plane went down. 121 00:04:49,288 --> 00:04:51,928 The Department of Defense has spoken to this, 122 00:04:51,924 --> 00:04:54,694 and they did indicate that as soon as the plane went 123 00:04:54,694 --> 00:04:56,994 down, an intensive airborne search was 124 00:04:56,996 --> 00:04:59,936 immediately initiated and personnel recovery forces 125 00:04:59,932 --> 00:05:03,032 were moving toward the pilot's last known location. 126 00:05:03,036 --> 00:05:05,036 For obvious reasons, we're not going 127 00:05:05,038 --> 00:05:07,038 to be in a position to discuss specific response 128 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,280 timelines for personnel recovery, but that was 129 00:05:09,275 --> 00:05:12,775 not, in this case, a major factor. 130 00:05:12,779 --> 00:05:15,919 The simple fact of the matter is that we were not 131 00:05:15,915 --> 00:05:18,155 in a position to locate the pilot before he was 132 00:05:18,151 --> 00:05:19,481 picked up by ISIL forces. 133 00:05:19,485 --> 00:05:20,655 The Press: So the President feels 134 00:05:20,653 --> 00:05:22,053 comfortable with the resources that he has 135 00:05:22,055 --> 00:05:24,525 on the ground if something were to happen with 136 00:05:24,524 --> 00:05:27,194 an American pilot over Syria or Iraq? 137 00:05:27,193 --> 00:05:28,793 Mr. Earnest: Well, certainly we would take -- 138 00:05:28,795 --> 00:05:30,835 we already have taken the necessary precautions 139 00:05:30,830 --> 00:05:33,570 to do everything we can to try to make that very 140 00:05:33,566 --> 00:05:36,606 dangerous mission as safe as possible for American 141 00:05:36,602 --> 00:05:37,772 fighter pilots who are putting themselves 142 00:05:37,770 --> 00:05:39,140 in harm's way. 143 00:05:39,138 --> 00:05:41,378 I can tell you that the President relies 144 00:05:41,374 --> 00:05:45,114 significantly on the advice that he gets from 145 00:05:45,111 --> 00:05:47,611 the leaders of our uniformed military for 146 00:05:47,613 --> 00:05:49,853 questions like this. 147 00:05:49,849 --> 00:05:51,249 I can tell you that the President is always 148 00:05:51,250 --> 00:05:54,720 pushing his team to reevaluate assumptions 149 00:05:54,721 --> 00:05:57,821 and to take a look at the strategy to make sure that 150 00:05:57,824 --> 00:06:01,764 all of our strategies are pressure-tested, 151 00:06:01,761 --> 00:06:04,461 that assumptions are challenged, and that we're 152 00:06:04,464 --> 00:06:07,004 doing everything that makes strategic sense 153 00:06:06,999 --> 00:06:12,169 to do to make this mission effective, to optimize 154 00:06:12,171 --> 00:06:15,911 its impact, and to try to put in place precautions that 155 00:06:15,908 --> 00:06:18,148 allow our men and women in uniform to do their very 156 00:06:18,144 --> 00:06:20,144 important jobs as safely as possible. 157 00:06:21,447 --> 00:06:22,587 Roberta. 158 00:06:22,582 --> 00:06:24,652 The Press: The European Union has criticized 159 00:06:24,650 --> 00:06:27,390 Jordan's execution of the two Iraqis yesterday. 160 00:06:27,386 --> 00:06:30,586 I'm wondering how the President feels about that 161 00:06:30,590 --> 00:06:33,790 execution and whether that came up during his meeting 162 00:06:33,793 --> 00:06:36,333 with the King yesterday. 163 00:06:36,329 --> 00:06:37,949 Mr. Earnest: Well, Roberta, we did see 164 00:06:37,949 --> 00:06:39,889 reports that the Jordanian government did carry out 165 00:06:39,889 --> 00:06:42,369 the execution of two prisoners that had been 166 00:06:42,369 --> 00:06:44,399 serving time on death row. 167 00:06:44,403 --> 00:06:47,003 These were two individuals that did go through the 168 00:06:47,006 --> 00:06:48,546 Jordanian justice system. 169 00:06:48,541 --> 00:06:50,541 They were convicted of very serious 170 00:06:50,543 --> 00:06:52,083 terrorism-related crimes. 171 00:06:52,078 --> 00:06:54,078 These were individuals who were sentenced to death 172 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,080 and were serving time on death row. 173 00:06:56,082 --> 00:06:58,382 And then we did see reports that their 174 00:06:58,384 --> 00:07:00,624 executions were carried out overnight. 175 00:07:00,620 --> 00:07:02,620 For questions about the circumstances of their 176 00:07:02,622 --> 00:07:04,622 confinement or the decision to move forward 177 00:07:04,624 --> 00:07:07,194 on the execution, I'd refer you to Jordanian 178 00:07:07,193 --> 00:07:09,533 authorities who can provide a great deal more 179 00:07:09,529 --> 00:07:12,469 insight into the Jordanian justice system than, 180 00:07:12,465 --> 00:07:13,535 frankly, I can. 181 00:07:13,533 --> 00:07:15,303 The Press: So the White House is not criticizing 182 00:07:15,301 --> 00:07:16,541 this, unlike the European Union? 183 00:07:16,536 --> 00:07:19,106 Mr. Earnest: Again, for questions about that 184 00:07:19,105 --> 00:07:21,675 specific situation, I'd refer you to Jordanian authorities. 185 00:07:21,674 --> 00:07:23,014 The Press: Today, Ash Carter, at his 186 00:07:23,009 --> 00:07:24,679 Senate hearing, said he leans in favor 187 00:07:24,677 --> 00:07:27,347 of sending arms to Ukraine. 188 00:07:27,346 --> 00:07:29,146 And that seems to go further than what 189 00:07:29,148 --> 00:07:31,788 Ben Rhodes said the other day on TV and what you've said. 190 00:07:31,784 --> 00:07:33,954 And I'm wondering if the White House agrees with 191 00:07:33,953 --> 00:07:36,053 Ash Carter, or if he's gone out ahead of the 192 00:07:36,055 --> 00:07:37,055 White House on this issue. 193 00:07:37,056 --> 00:07:39,826 Mr. Earnest: Well, the other thing that I noticed 194 00:07:39,826 --> 00:07:41,826 that Dr. Carter mentioned in his hearing is that 195 00:07:41,828 --> 00:07:43,968 he's a strong believer in the chain of command, 196 00:07:43,963 --> 00:07:45,963 and he certainly understands that the 197 00:07:45,965 --> 00:07:47,965 Commander-in-Chief is the top of that chain 198 00:07:47,967 --> 00:07:49,967 of command and that a decision like this will 199 00:07:49,969 --> 00:07:52,609 be made by the Commander-in-Chief. 200 00:07:52,605 --> 00:07:54,575 That said, the President is certainly interested 201 00:07:54,574 --> 00:07:58,944 in the view and opinion and insight of his national 202 00:07:58,945 --> 00:08:02,185 security team, including what we hope will be his 203 00:08:02,181 --> 00:08:05,451 soon-to-be confirmed new Secretary of Defense. 204 00:08:05,451 --> 00:08:07,451 And so, the President will certainly take that 205 00:08:07,453 --> 00:08:08,453 advice into account. 206 00:08:08,454 --> 00:08:11,224 What we have made clear is that substantial military 207 00:08:11,224 --> 00:08:13,224 assistance has already been provided to the 208 00:08:13,226 --> 00:08:14,426 Ukrainian military. 209 00:08:14,427 --> 00:08:17,367 We've made clear that an effort to try to bring 210 00:08:17,363 --> 00:08:21,933 the Ukrainian military on par with the Russian military 211 00:08:21,934 --> 00:08:23,974 is unrealistic, that when we're talking about the 212 00:08:23,970 --> 00:08:26,140 Russian military we're talking about one of the 213 00:08:26,138 --> 00:08:28,208 largest militaries on Earth. 214 00:08:28,207 --> 00:08:30,377 So the idea that we're going to provide enough 215 00:08:30,376 --> 00:08:32,346 assistance that would allow the Ukrainian 216 00:08:32,345 --> 00:08:34,345 military to be on par with the Russian military 217 00:08:34,347 --> 00:08:36,947 is unrealistic. 218 00:08:36,949 --> 00:08:38,949 That's why we know that the only way this 219 00:08:38,951 --> 00:08:40,951 situation is going to be resolved is around the 220 00:08:40,953 --> 00:08:41,953 negotiating table. 221 00:08:41,954 --> 00:08:44,224 And that is why our strategy has been focused 222 00:08:44,223 --> 00:08:46,923 on applying pressure to President Putin and other 223 00:08:46,926 --> 00:08:48,926 members of the Russian regime to try to compel 224 00:08:48,928 --> 00:08:50,968 them to come to the negotiating table 225 00:08:50,963 --> 00:08:54,733 to resolve -- or to deescalate the situation 226 00:08:54,734 --> 00:08:55,734 in Ukraine. 227 00:08:55,735 --> 00:08:57,735 That's going to continue to be our strategy. 228 00:08:57,737 --> 00:08:59,737 I know that there are some, including 229 00:08:59,739 --> 00:09:02,779 Dr. Carter, who articulated his view 230 00:09:02,775 --> 00:09:04,875 at the hearing today, who believe that there might 231 00:09:04,877 --> 00:09:08,147 be a benefit to providing additional military 232 00:09:08,147 --> 00:09:11,887 assistance to Ukrainian military authorities. 233 00:09:11,884 --> 00:09:16,394 And that is consistent with the President's view 234 00:09:16,389 --> 00:09:19,029 that we should, as I was mentioning earlier 235 00:09:19,025 --> 00:09:21,225 as it relates to our strategy against ISIL, that we're 236 00:09:21,227 --> 00:09:25,727 always testing and probing our strategy to make sure 237 00:09:25,731 --> 00:09:28,231 that it is optimized. 238 00:09:28,234 --> 00:09:29,874 The Press: Just quickly, on net neutrality. 239 00:09:29,869 --> 00:09:33,509 The FCC Chairman put forth his new proposal today. 240 00:09:33,506 --> 00:09:35,746 How does the White House feel about his new proposal? 241 00:09:35,741 --> 00:09:37,741 Mr. Earnest: Well, I understand from published 242 00:09:37,743 --> 00:09:39,743 reports, that the FCC Chairman, Tom Wheeler, 243 00:09:39,745 --> 00:09:41,885 has published an overview of his plans 244 00:09:41,881 --> 00:09:43,721 to safeguard net neutrality. 245 00:09:43,716 --> 00:09:45,716 And we're certainly encouraged to see that the 246 00:09:45,718 --> 00:09:47,718 FCC is heading in the same direction of safeguarding 247 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,730 net neutrality with the strongest possible protections. 248 00:09:52,725 --> 00:09:54,725 This is consistent with the view that 249 00:09:54,727 --> 00:09:58,267 the President articulated back in the fall. 250 00:09:58,264 --> 00:10:01,704 And the President has indicated that as this 251 00:10:01,701 --> 00:10:04,401 process moves forward, that additional 252 00:10:04,403 --> 00:10:05,803 legislation is not needed. 253 00:10:05,805 --> 00:10:08,745 But we're going to continue to withhold 254 00:10:08,741 --> 00:10:12,281 a detailed comment about their proposal out 255 00:10:12,278 --> 00:10:14,418 of respect for the independent process 256 00:10:14,413 --> 00:10:16,813 that the FCC is engaged in right now. 257 00:10:16,816 --> 00:10:19,356 This proposal will be subject to a vote of the 258 00:10:19,352 --> 00:10:21,352 five members of the -- or five commissioners of the 259 00:10:21,354 --> 00:10:24,754 FCC, and we'll have a little bit more to say 260 00:10:24,757 --> 00:10:27,657 about this after that vote has taken place. 261 00:10:27,660 --> 00:10:28,830 Isaac. 262 00:10:28,828 --> 00:10:30,668 The Press: If the speech by Prime Minister Netanyahu 263 00:10:30,663 --> 00:10:32,663 goes forward, will the President ask 264 00:10:32,665 --> 00:10:34,665 Vice President Biden to go to the speech? 265 00:10:34,667 --> 00:10:36,667 Mr. Earnest: Well, Isaac, you know that the 266 00:10:36,669 --> 00:10:38,869 Vice President takes his responsibilities as the 267 00:10:38,871 --> 00:10:42,911 president of the United States Senate very seriously. 268 00:10:42,908 --> 00:10:45,648 That includes even his ceremonial responsibilities. 269 00:10:45,644 --> 00:10:48,244 So many of you who have watched the Vice President 270 00:10:50,850 --> 00:10:53,890 dig in with gusto as he swears in new members 271 00:10:53,886 --> 00:10:56,056 of the United States Congress -- they've done that 272 00:10:56,055 --> 00:10:58,495 a couple of times, and I think that the rating for 273 00:10:58,491 --> 00:11:00,491 C-SPAN have gone through the roof when he's had 274 00:11:00,493 --> 00:11:01,993 the opportunity to do that. 275 00:11:01,994 --> 00:11:04,164 But another of his ceremonial duties 276 00:11:04,163 --> 00:11:09,433 is to be a part of any joint session of Congress that 277 00:11:09,435 --> 00:11:12,735 is convened. 278 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,740 In fact, there have been a number of joint sessions 279 00:11:15,741 --> 00:11:17,741 that have been convened while he's been Vice 280 00:11:17,743 --> 00:11:19,743 President, and the Vice President has only missed one. 281 00:11:19,745 --> 00:11:23,115 He missed one back in March of 2011 when 282 00:11:23,115 --> 00:11:26,515 then-Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard 283 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:29,219 spoke before a joint session of Congress. 284 00:11:29,221 --> 00:11:31,521 Unfortunately, at that point, the Vice President 285 00:11:31,524 --> 00:11:33,524 was out of the country and did not attend. 286 00:11:35,828 --> 00:11:39,368 But as it relates to the speech that Prime Minister 287 00:11:39,365 --> 00:11:41,635 Netanyahu has planned for the first week in March, 288 00:11:41,634 --> 00:11:43,704 I can tell you that the Vice President's schedule for 289 00:11:43,702 --> 00:11:46,672 that week has not yet been set. 290 00:11:46,672 --> 00:11:48,812 So as we get some more details worked out of his 291 00:11:48,808 --> 00:11:52,478 schedule, we'll be able to let you know whether 292 00:11:52,478 --> 00:11:54,778 or not he'll be able to attend that joint session. 293 00:11:54,780 --> 00:11:55,710 The Press: But would the President want the 294 00:11:55,714 --> 00:11:56,754 Vice President to be there? 295 00:11:56,749 --> 00:11:58,749 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, this is going 296 00:11:58,751 --> 00:12:00,751 to be contingent on his schedule. 297 00:12:00,753 --> 00:12:02,493 And as I mentioned, there's only one time 298 00:12:02,488 --> 00:12:04,158 in which the Vice President hasn't been there and 299 00:12:04,156 --> 00:12:05,856 it's when he's been out of the country. 300 00:12:05,858 --> 00:12:08,498 So as we get some more details for that first 301 00:12:08,494 --> 00:12:10,734 week in March locked down on the Vice President's 302 00:12:10,729 --> 00:12:11,799 schedule, we'll have more to say about this. 303 00:12:11,797 --> 00:12:12,797 The Press: Just one more on that. 304 00:12:12,798 --> 00:12:13,898 Do you think it's dangerous -- there are 305 00:12:13,899 --> 00:12:15,699 some Democrats who are talking about skipping the speech. 306 00:12:15,701 --> 00:12:16,771 Do you think it's dangerous for 307 00:12:16,769 --> 00:12:18,569 American-Israeli relations for Democrats 308 00:12:18,571 --> 00:12:21,911 to potentially boycott the Netanyahu speech? 309 00:12:21,907 --> 00:12:23,507 Mr. Earnest: Well, certainly individual 310 00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:24,909 members of Congress will have to make their own 311 00:12:24,910 --> 00:12:26,650 decision, some of which I assume will be driven 312 00:12:26,645 --> 00:12:31,315 by their schedule and some of it will be driven by their 313 00:12:31,317 --> 00:12:33,787 own views about what has transpired over the last 314 00:12:33,786 --> 00:12:36,356 several weeks as it relates to this speech. 315 00:12:36,355 --> 00:12:38,355 Let me just say as a general matter, that when 316 00:12:38,357 --> 00:12:41,057 I was asked about Ambassador Dermer's status 317 00:12:41,060 --> 00:12:44,360 a couple of -- maybe it was just even last week 318 00:12:44,363 --> 00:12:48,103 -- that the President believed that it was 319 00:12:48,100 --> 00:12:50,840 important to uphold a broader tradition 320 00:12:50,836 --> 00:12:56,676 of ensuring that the strong relationship between the 321 00:12:56,675 --> 00:12:58,845 United States and Israel was not in any way 322 00:12:58,844 --> 00:13:00,844 subjugated to partisan politics in either 323 00:13:00,846 --> 00:13:02,986 country, frankly. 324 00:13:02,982 --> 00:13:08,292 And we have -- one of the concerns about the breach 325 00:13:08,287 --> 00:13:11,327 in protocol that we've seen and articulated 326 00:13:11,323 --> 00:13:14,993 is that it might cause some to view the relationship 327 00:13:14,994 --> 00:13:16,994 between the United States and Israel 328 00:13:16,996 --> 00:13:18,966 as a relationship between one political party 329 00:13:18,964 --> 00:13:21,934 in Israel and one political party in the United States. 330 00:13:21,934 --> 00:13:23,934 The President does not believe that would 331 00:13:23,936 --> 00:13:25,376 be a positive development in our relationship. 332 00:13:25,371 --> 00:13:27,041 And so, the President is certainly doing everything 333 00:13:27,039 --> 00:13:28,639 that he can to try to avoid that. 334 00:13:28,641 --> 00:13:30,341 And that -- in fact, that is one of the reasons that 335 00:13:30,342 --> 00:13:32,012 the President has said he will not meet with the 336 00:13:32,011 --> 00:13:33,711 Israeli Prime Minister when he is in town the 337 00:13:33,712 --> 00:13:35,252 first week in March, because the President does 338 00:13:35,247 --> 00:13:37,417 not want to leave anybody with even the appearance 339 00:13:37,416 --> 00:13:39,386 of interfering in the Israeli elections 340 00:13:39,385 --> 00:13:41,355 scheduled for just two weeks later. 341 00:13:41,353 --> 00:13:42,793 The Press: But given that -- so does he think that 342 00:13:42,788 --> 00:13:44,928 Democrats should go to the speech if it happens? 343 00:13:44,924 --> 00:13:46,424 Mr. Earnest: I guess to give you a more direct 344 00:13:46,425 --> 00:13:47,995 answer, the President believes that individual 345 00:13:47,993 --> 00:13:50,793 members ought to decide for themselves. 346 00:13:50,796 --> 00:13:52,336 That's certainly appropriate. 347 00:13:52,331 --> 00:13:53,261 Jon. 348 00:13:53,265 --> 00:13:58,805 The Press: Josh, coming back to the UAE, do you 349 00:13:58,804 --> 00:14:02,374 believe that the coalition has been strengthened or 350 00:14:02,374 --> 00:14:05,344 weakened by this whole episode involving the 351 00:14:05,344 --> 00:14:07,484 Jordanian pilot? 352 00:14:07,479 --> 00:14:08,519 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think you heard from the 353 00:14:08,514 --> 00:14:10,654 President yesterday that the commitment of the 354 00:14:10,649 --> 00:14:12,319 United States and other members of the coalition 355 00:14:12,318 --> 00:14:14,888 has only been strengthened. 356 00:14:14,887 --> 00:14:17,427 I think he referred to redoubling our efforts 357 00:14:17,423 --> 00:14:19,723 to carry out this strategy against ISIL. 358 00:14:19,725 --> 00:14:22,025 I think you saw that sentiment echoed in the 359 00:14:22,027 --> 00:14:24,527 statement from King Abdullah yesterday 360 00:14:24,530 --> 00:14:30,640 as well, who indicated that the people of Jordan would 361 00:14:30,636 --> 00:14:36,176 not show weakness in the face of this barbaric act. 362 00:14:36,175 --> 00:14:40,445 And I think that is an indication of their 363 00:14:40,446 --> 00:14:42,186 strengthened commitment to this broader international 364 00:14:42,181 --> 00:14:44,521 coalition, and I think that is representative 365 00:14:44,516 --> 00:14:46,656 of the sentiment of others who are participants 366 00:14:46,652 --> 00:14:47,722 in this coalition. 367 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,690 But I only speak for one member of the coalition. 368 00:14:50,689 --> 00:14:54,959 The Press: But the UAE had been perhaps the biggest 369 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,960 contributor to the air campaign, and it's been 370 00:14:58,964 --> 00:15:02,704 now over a month since they have taken part 371 00:15:02,701 --> 00:15:06,371 in any airstrikes over Iraq or Syria. 372 00:15:06,372 --> 00:15:08,942 It seems like a pretty significant blow to the 373 00:15:08,941 --> 00:15:12,241 coalition, and one that we weren't informed of. 374 00:15:12,244 --> 00:15:15,544 I mean, you've talked excessively about the 375 00:15:15,547 --> 00:15:17,547 strength of this coalition over the past 376 00:15:17,549 --> 00:15:19,049 weeks and months. 377 00:15:19,051 --> 00:15:21,521 This seems to be a pretty significant setback 378 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:26,560 to have the UAE no longer flying with American pilots. 379 00:15:26,558 --> 00:15:28,728 Mr. Earnest: Well, we certainly have appreciated 380 00:15:28,727 --> 00:15:30,727 the wide range of commitments that the 381 00:15:30,729 --> 00:15:32,729 United Arab Emirates has made to this broader 382 00:15:32,731 --> 00:15:34,731 international coalition, including their military 383 00:15:34,733 --> 00:15:35,733 commitments. 384 00:15:35,734 --> 00:15:37,874 But, Jon, I can tell you that the pace 385 00:15:37,870 --> 00:15:40,740 of operations in Syria has not slowed; that with 386 00:15:40,739 --> 00:15:43,109 their -- to date, more than 1,000 strikes over 387 00:15:43,108 --> 00:15:45,308 Syria have been carried out, and these have 388 00:15:45,311 --> 00:15:47,451 targeted a wide range of things -- everything from 389 00:15:47,446 --> 00:15:50,016 ISIL fighters themselves to their commanders, 390 00:15:50,015 --> 00:15:52,615 hundreds of vehicles and tanks, nearly 260 391 00:15:52,618 --> 00:15:53,988 oil and gas facilities. 392 00:15:53,986 --> 00:15:54,986 And just recently -- 393 00:15:54,987 --> 00:15:55,987 The Press: What percentage -- 394 00:15:55,988 --> 00:15:57,088 Mr. Earnest: Well, let me say one other thing, 395 00:15:57,088 --> 00:15:59,918 which is, just recently, we learned -- and has been 396 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:01,990 reported by some of you -- that ISIL fighters have 397 00:16:01,994 --> 00:16:02,994 abandoned the city of Kobani. 398 00:16:02,995 --> 00:16:05,695 They've essentially been defeated in Kobani. 399 00:16:05,698 --> 00:16:09,968 And they've been defeated, as ISIL fighters 400 00:16:09,968 --> 00:16:13,168 themselves said, because of the strong coordination 401 00:16:13,172 --> 00:16:16,042 between forces on the ground and the airstrikes 402 00:16:16,041 --> 00:16:18,041 carried out by coalition pilots. 403 00:16:18,043 --> 00:16:20,683 So I think that is an indication that the air 404 00:16:20,679 --> 00:16:22,679 campaign that's being waged over the skies 405 00:16:22,681 --> 00:16:26,121 of Syria remains incredibly and, in some cases, 406 00:16:26,118 --> 00:16:27,658 even devastatingly effective. 407 00:16:27,653 --> 00:16:30,523 The Press: But what percentage of those airstrikes 408 00:16:30,522 --> 00:16:35,062 over Syria over the last month have been U.S. pilots? 409 00:16:35,060 --> 00:16:37,060 Mr. Earnest: Jon, I don't have that information 410 00:16:37,062 --> 00:16:39,062 in front of me, but you can check with the 411 00:16:39,064 --> 00:16:41,034 Department of Defense about that. 412 00:16:41,033 --> 00:16:42,603 The Press: And then can you give a direct answer 413 00:16:42,601 --> 00:16:44,341 to the concerns that have been expressed 414 00:16:44,336 --> 00:16:48,606 by UAE about the -- what they see as a lack 415 00:16:48,607 --> 00:16:50,207 of an effective search and rescue? 416 00:16:50,209 --> 00:16:52,179 Clearly, it wasn't effective -- but a lack 417 00:16:52,177 --> 00:16:55,247 of a timely search-and-rescue effort to get that 418 00:16:55,247 --> 00:16:56,517 Jordanian pilot back? 419 00:16:56,515 --> 00:17:00,085 Mr. Earnest: Well, as I mentioned in the statement 420 00:17:00,085 --> 00:17:06,225 that the Department of Defense issued, that they 421 00:17:06,225 --> 00:17:09,365 did commence an intensive airborne search 422 00:17:09,361 --> 00:17:13,061 immediately after the plane went down, and that 423 00:17:13,065 --> 00:17:15,835 there were personnel recovery forces en route 424 00:17:15,834 --> 00:17:17,234 to his last known location. 425 00:17:22,074 --> 00:17:23,814 The Press: So the UAE does not have a legitimate point? 426 00:17:23,809 --> 00:17:27,149 Mr. Earnest: Well, I guess what I'm saying is this: 427 00:17:29,982 --> 00:17:31,482 The response timeline, as the Department of Defense 428 00:17:31,483 --> 00:17:33,583 has said, as it relates to this case of 429 00:17:33,585 --> 00:17:36,185 Captain Kasasbeh, was not a major factor in this case, 430 00:17:36,188 --> 00:17:38,188 that the response timeline was not the major factor. 431 00:17:41,093 --> 00:17:43,463 But the other thing that I think is relevant is that 432 00:17:43,462 --> 00:17:46,002 the American pilots, American military pilots 433 00:17:45,998 --> 00:17:47,898 continue to fly over Syria. 434 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:50,670 And they only do that because the President 435 00:17:50,669 --> 00:17:52,669 believes that we have taken the necessary 436 00:17:52,671 --> 00:17:54,971 precautions for them to carry out what 437 00:17:54,973 --> 00:17:57,143 is admittedly a very dangerous mission 438 00:17:57,142 --> 00:17:59,242 as safely as possible, and that there are resources 439 00:17:59,244 --> 00:18:03,244 available for contingencies should they arise. 440 00:18:03,248 --> 00:18:06,918 And I don't think anybody would suggest that this 441 00:18:06,919 --> 00:18:08,919 Commander-in-Chief, at least, takes lightly 442 00:18:08,921 --> 00:18:10,921 his responsibility to make sure that those kinds 443 00:18:10,923 --> 00:18:12,023 of strategies are in place. 444 00:18:12,024 --> 00:18:14,364 The Press: Okay, just one more question on Iran. 445 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,999 We heard from President Rouhani saying, 446 00:18:16,995 --> 00:18:20,465 in his words, differences have decreased between 447 00:18:20,466 --> 00:18:26,736 the Iranians and European and U.S. powers on this. 448 00:18:26,738 --> 00:18:30,438 Is it your assessment that President Rouhani is right? 449 00:18:30,442 --> 00:18:32,242 Have the differences decreased? 450 00:18:32,244 --> 00:18:34,244 Have the two sides gotten closer to coming 451 00:18:34,246 --> 00:18:36,846 to an agreement on the Iranian nuclear program? 452 00:18:36,849 --> 00:18:39,419 Mr. Earnest: Well, I can tell you that for quite 453 00:18:39,418 --> 00:18:42,888 some time now, these negotiations have been ongoing. 454 00:18:49,528 --> 00:18:51,528 I think it is fair to say that progress has been 455 00:18:51,530 --> 00:18:53,530 made, but I don't want to leave you with the 456 00:18:53,532 --> 00:18:56,502 impression that there aren't still very 457 00:18:56,502 --> 00:18:58,132 difficult sticking points that remain. 458 00:18:58,136 --> 00:18:59,436 The Press: Are we better than 50/50 now? 459 00:18:59,438 --> 00:19:01,638 Mr. Earnest: I would not change our assessment that 460 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,880 we are at best -- at best -- 50/50 in terms of the 461 00:19:05,878 --> 00:19:08,848 likelihood that an agreement is reached. 462 00:19:08,847 --> 00:19:09,847 Michelle. 463 00:19:09,848 --> 00:19:11,848 The Press: Talking about the UAE, you've mentioned 464 00:19:11,850 --> 00:19:15,450 it many times in here as a significant partner 465 00:19:15,454 --> 00:19:16,454 in the coalition. 466 00:19:16,455 --> 00:19:18,425 But it sounds like you're saying that the loss 467 00:19:18,423 --> 00:19:20,723 of their airstrikes over the last month hasn't 468 00:19:20,726 --> 00:19:22,056 really made much of an impact. 469 00:19:22,060 --> 00:19:25,300 So isn't that saying that their contribution really 470 00:19:25,297 --> 00:19:27,937 wasn't so much of an impact positively 471 00:19:27,933 --> 00:19:28,933 in the first place? 472 00:19:28,934 --> 00:19:30,274 Mr. Earnest: No, I wouldn't say that at all. 473 00:19:30,269 --> 00:19:34,539 We certainly value the very important 474 00:19:34,540 --> 00:19:36,540 contribution that the Emiratis have made 475 00:19:36,542 --> 00:19:37,542 to this broader strategy. 476 00:19:37,543 --> 00:19:39,543 That includes their military contribution, 477 00:19:39,545 --> 00:19:41,545 but is not limited to it; that there are important 478 00:19:41,547 --> 00:19:43,547 financial contributions that they have made 479 00:19:43,549 --> 00:19:45,519 to this broader effort, some of which are related 480 00:19:45,517 --> 00:19:47,517 to dealing with the urgent humanitarian crisis 481 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:49,089 that's been created by ISIL. 482 00:19:49,087 --> 00:19:51,227 Certainly, the Emiratis have an important role 483 00:19:51,223 --> 00:19:53,523 to play in the Muslim world to countering some 484 00:19:53,525 --> 00:19:57,425 of the radical extremist messaging that 485 00:19:57,429 --> 00:19:58,769 we have seen from ISIL. 486 00:19:58,764 --> 00:20:02,504 We've talked quite a bit about how ISIL 487 00:20:02,501 --> 00:20:04,501 has attempted to use social media in rather 488 00:20:04,503 --> 00:20:07,003 sophisticated ways to try to radicalize populations 489 00:20:07,005 --> 00:20:08,005 in other countries. 490 00:20:08,006 --> 00:20:12,006 And one part of countering that messaging 491 00:20:12,010 --> 00:20:15,880 is to ensure that moderate voices in the 492 00:20:15,881 --> 00:20:17,981 Muslim world are also heard, and that those 493 00:20:17,983 --> 00:20:18,983 messages are countered. 494 00:20:18,984 --> 00:20:21,524 And certainly the Emiratis have a lot of credibility 495 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,520 when it comes to that, and we certainly appreciate 496 00:20:23,522 --> 00:20:25,522 their cooperation in that aspect of the campaign too. 497 00:20:25,524 --> 00:20:29,394 That's to say nothing of the efforts of our ongoing 498 00:20:29,394 --> 00:20:31,964 strategy to choke off the funding for 499 00:20:31,964 --> 00:20:33,364 ISIL's operations. 500 00:20:33,365 --> 00:20:39,205 Just a couple of months ago, you had David Cohen 501 00:20:39,204 --> 00:20:41,204 from the Treasury Department standing here 502 00:20:41,206 --> 00:20:43,206 at the podium sort of detailing our efforts 503 00:20:43,208 --> 00:20:44,348 to choke off funding for ISIL. 504 00:20:44,343 --> 00:20:46,343 Those efforts continue. 505 00:20:46,345 --> 00:20:48,345 It requires the close coordination 506 00:20:48,347 --> 00:20:50,347 and cooperation of our partners across the globe, 507 00:20:50,349 --> 00:20:51,449 but particularly in the region. 508 00:20:51,450 --> 00:20:53,450 The UAE has been very helpful on that front, 509 00:20:53,452 --> 00:20:54,452 as well. 510 00:20:54,453 --> 00:20:56,453 The Press: But while those elements might be very 511 00:20:56,455 --> 00:20:58,455 important in the long run, it doesn't really stop 512 00:20:58,457 --> 00:21:01,757 ISIS on the ground in the short term. 513 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,630 And for the loss of the UAE's airstrikes not 514 00:21:05,631 --> 00:21:08,331 really making that much of an impact, as you say, 515 00:21:08,333 --> 00:21:10,333 that the pace is continued, doesn't 516 00:21:10,335 --> 00:21:13,575 that just again point to the fact that the U.S. 517 00:21:13,572 --> 00:21:15,642 continues to do the lion's share of the work 518 00:21:15,641 --> 00:21:16,641 militarily? 519 00:21:16,642 --> 00:21:17,742 Mr. Earnest: There is no question that the 520 00:21:17,743 --> 00:21:18,943 United States of America is playing the leading role 521 00:21:18,944 --> 00:21:20,074 in this international coalition. 522 00:21:20,078 --> 00:21:22,478 I think the President is proud that as 523 00:21:22,481 --> 00:21:24,251 the Commander-in-Chief of our Armed Forces, 524 00:21:24,249 --> 00:21:25,849 that the United States is leading in this effort. 525 00:21:25,851 --> 00:21:27,151 There's no doubt about that. 526 00:21:27,152 --> 00:21:29,552 But it does not in any way diminish the contributions 527 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,900 of others that have an important role to play here. 528 00:21:31,900 --> 00:21:34,620 And we are certainly proud to continue to have the 529 00:21:34,620 --> 00:21:36,620 support of the Emiratis as we pursue this strategy. 530 00:21:36,622 --> 00:21:39,432 The Press: We've heard repeatedly yesterday from 531 00:21:39,431 --> 00:21:41,431 the President and others about redoubling the 532 00:21:41,433 --> 00:21:46,003 commitment, reinforcing the vigilance of the coalition. 533 00:21:46,004 --> 00:21:49,774 So now that we're hearing from Jordan that they want 534 00:21:49,775 --> 00:21:52,715 to do more airstrikes, is it likely that everyone 535 00:21:52,711 --> 00:21:55,851 is going to be contributing more at this period 536 00:21:55,847 --> 00:21:56,987 of time, including the U.S.? 537 00:21:56,982 --> 00:21:58,982 Mr. Earnest: Well, we certainly would welcome 538 00:21:58,984 --> 00:22:01,224 additional contributions from other countries, 539 00:22:01,219 --> 00:22:04,189 and we're going to continue to work to make sure that 540 00:22:04,189 --> 00:22:06,629 this wide variety of efforts is carefully integrated. 541 00:22:06,625 --> 00:22:09,195 And that is an important part of this coalition 542 00:22:09,194 --> 00:22:11,194 as well, that we want to make sure that we're working 543 00:22:11,196 --> 00:22:13,196 closely to make sure that we're not duplicating 544 00:22:13,198 --> 00:22:15,198 efforts and that our efforts continues 545 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,200 to be very carefully integrated. 546 00:22:17,202 --> 00:22:19,202 And we certainly welcome the kind of support and 547 00:22:19,204 --> 00:22:21,974 continued willingness from the Jordanians and all the 548 00:22:21,973 --> 00:22:24,573 other members of the coalition to executing this strategy. 549 00:22:24,576 --> 00:22:26,576 The Press: But we've heard from some in the Pentagon 550 00:22:26,578 --> 00:22:29,348 that some would like to see the U.S. pace 551 00:22:29,347 --> 00:22:31,547 increase but that the White House has favored 552 00:22:31,550 --> 00:22:36,860 more of a steady pace as it's been. 553 00:22:36,855 --> 00:22:39,355 Do you feel that that is the case? 554 00:22:39,357 --> 00:22:41,757 And will we see the U.S. contribute more? 555 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,830 Mr. Earnest: Well, I haven't heard those 556 00:22:43,829 --> 00:22:44,929 complaints firsthand. 557 00:22:44,930 --> 00:22:46,700 I guess in order to respond to them, I'd want 558 00:22:46,698 --> 00:22:48,438 a little more detailed assessment of what exactly 559 00:22:48,433 --> 00:22:49,433 they're talking about. 560 00:22:49,434 --> 00:22:51,174 But I can tell you that this is something that 561 00:22:51,169 --> 00:22:53,109 the President feels strongly about, and the President 562 00:22:53,105 --> 00:22:55,775 is pleased with the way that members of our 563 00:22:55,774 --> 00:22:57,574 military have handled their responsibilities 564 00:22:57,576 --> 00:23:01,516 in this effort; that the challenges put before 565 00:23:01,513 --> 00:23:05,083 our military are significant and their success 566 00:23:05,083 --> 00:23:07,083 in carrying out this operation and doing 567 00:23:07,085 --> 00:23:10,255 so in close coordination with more than 60 countries 568 00:23:10,255 --> 00:23:11,625 is no small feat. 569 00:23:11,623 --> 00:23:14,023 And the national security interests of the 570 00:23:14,025 --> 00:23:16,365 United States are incredibly well-served by it. 571 00:23:16,361 --> 00:23:18,561 The Press: If you don't mind one quick question. 572 00:23:18,563 --> 00:23:20,563 When the President was talking -- or it came 573 00:23:20,565 --> 00:23:22,705 out in a readout, I guess, of the Vice President's 574 00:23:22,701 --> 00:23:27,541 meeting with the King -- this ironclad support for Jordan. 575 00:23:27,539 --> 00:23:31,279 Would that then include support for its reaction 576 00:23:31,276 --> 00:23:33,676 to the murder of the pilot through these executions? 577 00:23:33,678 --> 00:23:36,018 Mr. Earnest: Well, I don't have a specific reaction 578 00:23:36,014 --> 00:23:40,924 to the news overnight that a couple of individuals 579 00:23:40,919 --> 00:23:43,989 who had been convicted of crimes related 580 00:23:43,989 --> 00:23:46,189 to terrorism, that they'd been executed. 581 00:23:46,191 --> 00:23:48,461 Again, they'd gone through the Jordanian justice 582 00:23:48,460 --> 00:23:50,460 system, they'd been convicted, they were 583 00:23:50,462 --> 00:23:52,462 sentenced to death, they were serving time on death 584 00:23:52,464 --> 00:23:54,464 row, and their executions were carried out overnight. 585 00:23:54,466 --> 00:23:56,436 So I'd refer you to the Jordanian authorities for 586 00:23:56,434 --> 00:23:57,904 additional information about that. 587 00:23:57,903 --> 00:23:59,203 Lalit. 588 00:23:59,204 --> 00:24:00,944 The Press: Thank you, Josh. 589 00:24:00,939 --> 00:24:04,879 On Afghanistan, today at his confirmation hearing, 590 00:24:04,876 --> 00:24:08,216 Ash Carter told congressmen that he would 591 00:24:08,213 --> 00:24:11,183 recommend changing the plan in Afghanistan, both 592 00:24:11,183 --> 00:24:14,653 the pace and the size of the forces -- this was 593 00:24:14,653 --> 00:24:16,853 in Afghanistan -- if there's a change in the situation 594 00:24:16,855 --> 00:24:18,655 inside Afghanistan. 595 00:24:18,657 --> 00:24:21,427 Is that the final plan, or is the President willing 596 00:24:21,426 --> 00:24:23,426 to change the plan depending on the situation 597 00:24:23,428 --> 00:24:24,528 in Afghanistan? 598 00:24:24,529 --> 00:24:26,329 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think the last part is the key 599 00:24:26,331 --> 00:24:29,231 part of this, Lalit -- that I don't think that 600 00:24:29,234 --> 00:24:30,974 -- again, based on -- I didn't watch the testimony 601 00:24:30,969 --> 00:24:33,139 firsthand, so correct me if I don't get this right. 602 00:24:33,138 --> 00:24:34,578 But my understanding about the way that he had 603 00:24:34,573 --> 00:24:37,313 described his view was that he was open 604 00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:42,719 to changing the pace based on conditions on the ground. 605 00:24:42,714 --> 00:24:46,154 But I think that as things stand right now, I believe 606 00:24:46,151 --> 00:24:48,151 that he is supportive of the strategy that 607 00:24:48,153 --> 00:24:50,293 the President has laid out. 608 00:24:50,288 --> 00:24:51,788 So the President has been very clear about what 609 00:24:51,790 --> 00:24:55,530 he believes our strategy should be. 610 00:24:55,527 --> 00:24:57,527 It's impossible to predict with 100 percent certainty 611 00:24:57,529 --> 00:24:59,529 exactly what security conditions are going 612 00:24:59,531 --> 00:25:01,871 to be, but the President is committed to this strategy. 613 00:25:01,867 --> 00:25:04,937 And the President believes it serves 614 00:25:04,936 --> 00:25:06,936 our national security interests very well for 615 00:25:06,938 --> 00:25:09,808 us to responsibly wind down the war in Afghanistan 616 00:25:09,808 --> 00:25:11,808 and to reduce our military footprint there. 617 00:25:11,810 --> 00:25:13,810 The President has laid out a clear strategy for doing 618 00:25:13,812 --> 00:25:15,812 it, and the President is pleased that we're 619 00:25:15,814 --> 00:25:18,714 pursuing it and is hopeful that it will be effective. 620 00:25:18,717 --> 00:25:19,447 Ed. 621 00:25:19,451 --> 00:25:20,891 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 622 00:25:20,886 --> 00:25:21,956 Mr. Earnest: If I might, just before you ask your 623 00:25:21,953 --> 00:25:24,323 question, your colleague was here yesterday and 624 00:25:24,322 --> 00:25:27,222 asked a question about the Affordable Care Act, 625 00:25:27,225 --> 00:25:29,225 and I think this is one of those awkward situations 626 00:25:29,227 --> 00:25:31,227 where I didn't quite understand the question 627 00:25:31,229 --> 00:25:32,229 that he was asking. 628 00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:34,230 So if you don't mind me eating into a little bit 629 00:25:34,232 --> 00:25:36,232 of your time, which I'll repay on the backend, 630 00:25:36,234 --> 00:25:39,174 let me try to better answer the question that 631 00:25:39,170 --> 00:25:40,370 I believe that he was asking. 632 00:25:40,372 --> 00:25:43,512 I think that he was raising a question about 633 00:25:43,508 --> 00:25:48,248 individuals who will be assessed a fee for not 634 00:25:48,246 --> 00:25:50,246 purchasing health insurance in 2014, 635 00:25:50,248 --> 00:25:52,318 even though they could afford it. 636 00:25:52,317 --> 00:25:55,317 And it is true, according to CBO estimates, 637 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,860 that it is possible that millions of people could 638 00:25:57,856 --> 00:25:59,256 be affected by this. 639 00:25:59,257 --> 00:26:02,957 And so, let me say a couple of things about that. 640 00:26:02,961 --> 00:26:05,931 The first is, it is, as I mentioned yesterday, 641 00:26:05,931 --> 00:26:08,801 also true that millions of Americans saw their taxes 642 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,600 reduced so that they could afford health insurance. 643 00:26:11,603 --> 00:26:13,973 It's also true that, as I mentioned yesterday, 644 00:26:13,972 --> 00:26:15,972 that three-quarters of Americans will only have 645 00:26:15,974 --> 00:26:17,974 to check a box on their tax forms to confirm that 646 00:26:17,976 --> 00:26:24,186 they have -- that they did have health insurance in 2014. 647 00:26:24,182 --> 00:26:27,622 And the likelihood of this fee affecting a taxpayer, 648 00:26:27,619 --> 00:26:30,019 we're only talking about a range of 2 to 4 percent 649 00:26:30,021 --> 00:26:33,061 of taxpayers who are affected. 650 00:26:33,058 --> 00:26:34,058 Last couple of things. 651 00:26:34,059 --> 00:26:36,059 The first is, it is possible for people 652 00:26:36,061 --> 00:26:38,461 to qualify for an exemption in certain circumstances. 653 00:26:38,463 --> 00:26:40,703 So that possibility is held, and I that was 654 00:26:40,699 --> 00:26:42,699 essentially the essence of his question -- is there 655 00:26:42,701 --> 00:26:44,701 anything that people in this situation can do. 656 00:26:44,703 --> 00:26:46,703 There are certain cases I think that are rather 657 00:26:46,705 --> 00:26:49,205 complicated where individuals could apply 658 00:26:49,207 --> 00:26:50,377 or qualify for an exception. 659 00:26:50,375 --> 00:26:52,375 I think the last piece of advice I would have 660 00:26:52,377 --> 00:26:54,377 for individuals who may be watching us or reading 661 00:26:54,379 --> 00:26:57,519 this who are concerned about having to pay 662 00:26:57,515 --> 00:27:03,855 a fee in 2014, is to make sure it doesn't happen again. 663 00:27:03,855 --> 00:27:06,825 And fortunately, they have until February 15th 664 00:27:06,825 --> 00:27:09,025 to sign up for health insurance at healthcare.gov 665 00:27:09,027 --> 00:27:11,027 for 2015 to ensure that they don't 666 00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:12,629 have to pay this fee in 2015. 667 00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:15,270 So I appreciate you giving me the opportunity 668 00:27:15,266 --> 00:27:16,406 to clarify all that. 669 00:27:16,401 --> 00:27:17,171 The Press: No problem. 670 00:27:17,168 --> 00:27:18,068 (inaudible) outstanding journalist. 671 00:27:18,069 --> 00:27:19,039 Mr. Earnest: Exactly. 672 00:27:19,037 --> 00:27:19,837 The Press: He wanted to get your answer; 673 00:27:19,838 --> 00:27:20,808 I'm glad you gave it. 674 00:27:20,805 --> 00:27:21,805 Mr. Earnest: Good. 675 00:27:21,806 --> 00:27:23,806 The Press: I want to go back to Jordan and ISIS. 676 00:27:23,808 --> 00:27:25,008 I'm confused by your answer to Michelle's question 677 00:27:25,010 --> 00:27:28,180 about the executions that happened overnight, 678 00:27:28,179 --> 00:27:30,349 when you said, "I don't have a reaction to it." 679 00:27:30,348 --> 00:27:34,958 How can the President yesterday say, we're here, 680 00:27:34,953 --> 00:27:36,953 we support Jordan, they're a key member of the 681 00:27:36,955 --> 00:27:39,125 coalition; they make this decision overnight and you 682 00:27:39,124 --> 00:27:41,124 can't say whether or not you support 683 00:27:41,126 --> 00:27:42,126 the executions? 684 00:27:42,127 --> 00:27:44,127 Mr. Earnest: Well, Ed, it is certainly possible for 685 00:27:44,129 --> 00:27:46,299 us to continue to support and stand with the people 686 00:27:46,297 --> 00:27:48,937 of Jordan at this very difficult time. 687 00:27:48,933 --> 00:27:51,433 Clearly, their nation, in the same way that we all 688 00:27:51,436 --> 00:27:54,206 are, is shocked and appalled at this 689 00:27:54,205 --> 00:27:56,175 terrible act of violence that was captured on video 690 00:27:56,174 --> 00:27:58,544 by ISIL and released to the world. 691 00:27:58,543 --> 00:28:00,543 And the United States stands with our friends 692 00:28:00,545 --> 00:28:06,215 in Jordan as they confront this awful, barbaric act. 693 00:28:06,217 --> 00:28:08,557 But as it relates to decisions that are carried 694 00:28:08,553 --> 00:28:10,553 out by the Jordanian justice system, 695 00:28:10,555 --> 00:28:11,625 I'd refer you to them. 696 00:28:11,623 --> 00:28:15,223 I don't have the working knowledge of the 697 00:28:15,226 --> 00:28:17,926 Jordanian justice system to render an opinion on this. 698 00:28:17,929 --> 00:28:19,669 All I know is that the individuals that we're 699 00:28:19,664 --> 00:28:22,134 discussing here were individuals who were convicted 700 00:28:22,133 --> 00:28:24,273 of terrorism-related crimes. 701 00:28:24,269 --> 00:28:26,269 They were individuals who were sentenced to death. 702 00:28:26,271 --> 00:28:28,271 And these were individuals who had been serving 703 00:28:28,273 --> 00:28:29,273 time on death row. 704 00:28:29,274 --> 00:28:31,344 The Press: So let's ask, though, about something 705 00:28:31,342 --> 00:28:33,342 that you do have an impact on, which the White House 706 00:28:33,344 --> 00:28:35,584 said, which is support, direct support for Jordan. 707 00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:38,420 And back to one of Julie's first questions, 708 00:28:38,416 --> 00:28:40,416 you seemed to be suggesting that the White House 709 00:28:40,418 --> 00:28:42,988 was not aware that the King was in Washington to, 710 00:28:42,987 --> 00:28:46,157 in part -- large part -- to get more support from the 711 00:28:46,157 --> 00:28:48,357 administration and the Congress for weapons, right? 712 00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:51,459 Mr. Earnest: Well, Ed, the administration is standing 713 00:28:51,463 --> 00:28:54,563 squarely behind the people of Jordan and the King, 714 00:28:54,566 --> 00:28:56,766 and we are certainly supportive of any efforts 715 00:28:56,768 --> 00:28:58,768 that are underway to try to strengthen his national 716 00:28:58,770 --> 00:29:01,240 security and to strengthen his ability to make 717 00:29:01,239 --> 00:29:04,039 tangible contributions to this broader campaign. 718 00:29:04,042 --> 00:29:04,972 The Press: But you said you weren't aware 719 00:29:04,976 --> 00:29:06,006 of a request. 720 00:29:06,010 --> 00:29:08,250 Are you suggesting that the King in the 721 00:29:08,246 --> 00:29:10,216 Oval Office last night didn't ask 722 00:29:10,215 --> 00:29:11,215 President Obama for more help? 723 00:29:11,216 --> 00:29:13,256 Or in recent weeks, there hasn't been a conversation 724 00:29:13,251 --> 00:29:15,551 with the Vice President, the national security advisor? 725 00:29:15,553 --> 00:29:17,953 Are you really saying Jordan hasn't asked for more weapons? 726 00:29:17,956 --> 00:29:19,956 Mr. Earnest: What I'm saying is I'm not going 727 00:29:19,958 --> 00:29:21,958 to read out any of the detailed conversations, 728 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,960 at least in a detailed way, the conversations that the 729 00:29:23,962 --> 00:29:25,962 King had while he was here in the United States. 730 00:29:25,964 --> 00:29:27,964 As has been reported, he did visit with the 731 00:29:27,966 --> 00:29:29,966 President yesterday, he had the opportunity 732 00:29:29,968 --> 00:29:30,968 to talk to the Vice President. 733 00:29:30,969 --> 00:29:32,969 I know that he spoke to the Secretary of State as well. 734 00:29:32,971 --> 00:29:34,971 So he had a number of conversations. 735 00:29:34,973 --> 00:29:36,973 I'm not going to read them out in a detailed way. 736 00:29:36,975 --> 00:29:38,975 The Press: He's made it no secret he wants more 737 00:29:38,977 --> 00:29:40,977 weapons, he wants to step up the campaign against ISIS. 738 00:29:40,979 --> 00:29:41,979 That's on the record. 739 00:29:41,980 --> 00:29:44,220 So, A, did he ask the White House for that support? 740 00:29:44,215 --> 00:29:46,685 And, B, is the President going to give him that support? 741 00:29:46,684 --> 00:29:49,354 Mr. Earnest: Ed, I don't have a detailed accounting 742 00:29:49,354 --> 00:29:51,354 of the conversation that the President had with 743 00:29:51,356 --> 00:29:52,356 the King in the Oval Office. 744 00:29:52,357 --> 00:29:54,357 And the United States continues to stand with 745 00:29:54,359 --> 00:29:56,699 the people of Jordan and our ally, 746 00:29:56,694 --> 00:29:58,064 the King of Jordan, as they -- 747 00:29:58,062 --> 00:29:59,332 The Press: If you stand with them, 748 00:29:59,330 --> 00:30:00,230 why can't you say you're going to support 749 00:30:00,231 --> 00:30:01,331 and give them more weapons? 750 00:30:01,332 --> 00:30:02,502 That's what I'm just struggling to understand. 751 00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:03,840 Mr. Earnest: Well, because, Ed, a lot 752 00:30:03,835 --> 00:30:07,035 of this requires important coordination not just 753 00:30:07,038 --> 00:30:08,238 in terms of the work that we have to do with the 754 00:30:08,239 --> 00:30:10,179 Congress, but also in terms of the work that 755 00:30:10,175 --> 00:30:12,575 we'll do with the Jordanians to ensure 756 00:30:12,577 --> 00:30:15,647 that we're providing the actual assistance that 757 00:30:15,647 --> 00:30:17,847 they are requesting and that they need. 758 00:30:17,849 --> 00:30:18,879 The Press: Okay. 759 00:30:18,883 --> 00:30:20,153 And it seems like in a lot of your answers there 760 00:30:20,151 --> 00:30:21,621 doesn't seem to be anything new coming 761 00:30:21,619 --> 00:30:23,719 from the White House today in the wake 762 00:30:23,721 --> 00:30:25,121 of what happened yesterday. 763 00:30:25,123 --> 00:30:28,093 It seems, in the case of King Abdullah, he really 764 00:30:28,092 --> 00:30:29,532 seemed to believe this is a game-changer. 765 00:30:29,527 --> 00:30:33,767 I understand there was a horrible impact 766 00:30:33,765 --> 00:30:35,735 on his country, but on the entire coalition. 767 00:30:35,733 --> 00:30:37,733 This was a pilot who was working on behalf 768 00:30:37,735 --> 00:30:39,735 of a coalition led by this President. 769 00:30:39,737 --> 00:30:42,277 So my question is, it seems like the strategy 770 00:30:42,273 --> 00:30:44,413 here in terms of defeating ISIS is status quo; 771 00:30:44,409 --> 00:30:46,049 that nothing changed yesterday. 772 00:30:46,044 --> 00:30:48,044 Is there anything the President is committing to do? 773 00:30:48,046 --> 00:30:50,516 Is there anything to step up the campaign against 774 00:30:50,515 --> 00:30:52,185 ISIS at all from the White House? 775 00:30:52,183 --> 00:30:54,123 Mr. Earnest: Well, Ed, we have talked about how 776 00:30:54,118 --> 00:30:57,088 these kinds of ongoing efforts are going 777 00:30:57,088 --> 00:30:59,128 to be difficult and that it's going to be difficult 778 00:30:59,123 --> 00:31:03,333 to measure success or failure in one-day increments. 779 00:31:03,328 --> 00:31:05,298 What we're focused on is the longer-term arc. 780 00:31:05,296 --> 00:31:09,566 I think the best example I have for this is that last 781 00:31:09,567 --> 00:31:12,837 fall there was extensive, even breathless coverage 782 00:31:12,837 --> 00:31:16,107 about the success that ISIL has had, or did have 783 00:31:16,107 --> 00:31:18,777 at that time, in making significant inroads into 784 00:31:18,776 --> 00:31:22,016 this border village called Kobani. 785 00:31:22,013 --> 00:31:25,453 And just last -- over the weekend, we saw news 786 00:31:25,450 --> 00:31:28,050 reports that ISIL has been repelled from that village 787 00:31:28,052 --> 00:31:30,722 and that ISIL fighters themselves attributed 788 00:31:30,722 --> 00:31:33,222 their retreat to the success of ground 789 00:31:33,224 --> 00:31:36,324 operations that were supported by airstrikes 790 00:31:36,327 --> 00:31:38,327 from coalition pilots. 791 00:31:38,329 --> 00:31:41,769 So that is an indication that, yes, the situation 792 00:31:41,766 --> 00:31:42,766 in Kobani was concerning. 793 00:31:42,767 --> 00:31:45,507 But over the long term, this administration 794 00:31:45,503 --> 00:31:47,503 led the international coalition to implement 795 00:31:47,505 --> 00:31:49,505 a strategy that was successful in repelling 796 00:31:49,507 --> 00:31:50,507 that ISIL advance. 797 00:31:50,508 --> 00:31:53,608 There are any number of similar stories 798 00:31:53,611 --> 00:31:57,851 to be told in Iraq. 799 00:31:57,849 --> 00:32:00,889 And this not a matter of sort of doing 800 00:32:00,885 --> 00:32:03,055 a minute-by-minute play-by-play here. 801 00:32:03,054 --> 00:32:04,524 This is a matter of staying focused 802 00:32:04,522 --> 00:32:05,862 on our broader goal. 803 00:32:05,857 --> 00:32:08,127 And one of those goals is keeping together 804 00:32:08,126 --> 00:32:09,096 this coalition. 805 00:32:09,093 --> 00:32:11,193 And that's why the President has been 806 00:32:11,195 --> 00:32:13,165 so clear, and why I'm doing my best to be as clear 807 00:32:13,164 --> 00:32:15,304 as I can about our commitment to standing 808 00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:18,300 shoulder-to-shoulder with Jordan as they deal 809 00:32:18,303 --> 00:32:19,303 with this terrible tragedy. 810 00:32:19,304 --> 00:32:20,304 The Press: Last one. 811 00:32:20,305 --> 00:32:22,275 You've got a summit on violent extremism coming 812 00:32:22,273 --> 00:32:23,973 up in a week or two. 813 00:32:23,975 --> 00:32:25,975 Has there been any thought about moving that up, 814 00:32:25,977 --> 00:32:28,977 given events over the last 24, 48 hours, that this 815 00:32:28,980 --> 00:32:30,580 should be at the top of mind at the White House, 816 00:32:30,581 --> 00:32:32,581 this should happen today, tomorrow? 817 00:32:32,583 --> 00:32:33,583 Where is the sense of urgency? 818 00:32:33,584 --> 00:32:36,254 Mr. Earnest: Well, Ed, the fact of the matter 819 00:32:36,254 --> 00:32:39,324 is this issue of foreign fighters and countering 820 00:32:39,324 --> 00:32:41,394 violent extremism is something that this administration 821 00:32:41,392 --> 00:32:45,532 has been focused on for a long, long time. 822 00:32:45,530 --> 00:32:47,530 And this is something that even in the earliest 823 00:32:47,532 --> 00:32:49,672 days of the administration, John Brennan went 824 00:32:49,667 --> 00:32:52,737 to NYU and gave a pretty important policy speech 825 00:32:52,737 --> 00:32:55,237 about our ongoing efforts to work with communities 826 00:32:55,239 --> 00:32:57,509 all across the country to try to counter violent extremism. 827 00:32:57,508 --> 00:32:59,948 And this, again, as part of this ongoing effort, 828 00:32:59,944 --> 00:33:01,944 the President, for just the second time 829 00:33:01,946 --> 00:33:04,716 in United Nations history, convened a meeting of the 830 00:33:04,716 --> 00:33:07,156 United Nations Security Council to talk about the broader 831 00:33:07,151 --> 00:33:10,721 international effort to shut down the movement 832 00:33:10,722 --> 00:33:11,852 of foreign fighters. 833 00:33:11,856 --> 00:33:15,326 And so this is something that is ongoing, and there 834 00:33:15,326 --> 00:33:17,766 is work that is done here in this White House 835 00:33:17,762 --> 00:33:20,562 on a daily basis to try to mitigate this threat 836 00:33:20,565 --> 00:33:22,235 to the American people. 837 00:33:22,233 --> 00:33:25,173 And the countering violent extremism summit that 838 00:33:25,169 --> 00:33:28,409 we're convening next week -- or in two weeks will 839 00:33:28,406 --> 00:33:30,676 be a very important part and an important contribution 840 00:33:30,675 --> 00:33:32,215 to that effort. 841 00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:33,240 Steve. 842 00:33:33,244 --> 00:33:36,384 The Press: This morning, the new Surgeon General 843 00:33:36,381 --> 00:33:39,951 said that preliminary data shows that marijuana could 844 00:33:39,951 --> 00:33:43,851 be helpful in certain medical conditions. 845 00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:46,095 I'm wondering if you have any comment on that, 846 00:33:46,090 --> 00:33:49,330 if this is a sense that the White House is changing 847 00:33:49,327 --> 00:33:52,727 its position on medical marijuana. 848 00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:54,630 Mr. Earnest: I didn't actually see those 849 00:33:54,632 --> 00:33:56,302 comments, Steve, so I might actually take your 850 00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:57,700 question and take a look at those comments a little 851 00:33:57,702 --> 00:33:59,402 more carefully before I get you a reaction. 852 00:33:59,404 --> 00:34:02,604 The Press: On a second issue, on the budget, 853 00:34:02,607 --> 00:34:04,807 the President seemed to issue a veto threat when he was 854 00:34:04,809 --> 00:34:06,779 making his comments on the budget; 855 00:34:06,778 --> 00:34:11,118 he said he wouldn't accept sequester levels going forward. 856 00:34:11,115 --> 00:34:13,955 It sounds like that's almost a threat 857 00:34:13,951 --> 00:34:17,751 of a government shutdown if the Republicans do not 858 00:34:17,755 --> 00:34:19,195 increase spending. 859 00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:21,560 Is that the right way to look at that? 860 00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:24,099 Is that a veto threat that if the Republicans don't 861 00:34:24,095 --> 00:34:26,095 increase spending, he's not going to sign any 862 00:34:26,097 --> 00:34:27,097 of those spending bills? 863 00:34:27,098 --> 00:34:29,098 Mr. Earnest: Well, I know there has been an effort 864 00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:31,100 to sort of do a little running tally of veto 865 00:34:31,102 --> 00:34:33,102 threats that have been issued by the White House. 866 00:34:33,104 --> 00:34:35,104 I'm not sure this qualifies, simply because 867 00:34:35,106 --> 00:34:37,106 we haven't seen a piece of legislation from Congress. 868 00:34:37,108 --> 00:34:40,108 So we typically issue veto threats around specific bills. 869 00:34:40,111 --> 00:34:45,921 But I do think that the President is very firm 870 00:34:45,917 --> 00:34:49,717 in his belief that the mindless, across-the-board 871 00:34:49,720 --> 00:34:52,460 cuts that we've seen as a part of the sequester have 872 00:34:52,457 --> 00:34:55,327 been bad for our economy and they certainly have 873 00:34:55,326 --> 00:34:57,326 not been helpful to our national security. 874 00:34:57,328 --> 00:34:59,328 And I recognize that there's actually some 875 00:34:59,330 --> 00:35:01,330 bipartisan agreement around that. 876 00:35:01,332 --> 00:35:03,332 And so we're going to be working in bipartisan 877 00:35:03,334 --> 00:35:05,974 fashion with Congress to make some of those changes 878 00:35:05,970 --> 00:35:09,410 to the budget in a way that reflects bipartisan 879 00:35:09,407 --> 00:35:11,407 common ground, because that's going to be what's 880 00:35:11,409 --> 00:35:13,409 required to actually pass these funding bills, 881 00:35:13,411 --> 00:35:15,981 but also reflects a focus on our core priorities, 882 00:35:15,980 --> 00:35:18,420 which is protecting the country and protecting 883 00:35:18,416 --> 00:35:19,416 the middle class. 884 00:35:19,417 --> 00:35:21,687 The Press: One veto threat that he's issued in past 885 00:35:21,686 --> 00:35:26,056 years on the sequester was absent this week. 886 00:35:26,057 --> 00:35:28,397 And two years ago, when he was talking about the 887 00:35:28,392 --> 00:35:32,502 sequester at that podium, he basically -- he said, 888 00:35:32,497 --> 00:35:35,997 I will veto a replacement that did not include 889 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,000 new revenue, new taxes. 890 00:35:39,537 --> 00:35:42,877 Is the President open to doing what the Republicans 891 00:35:42,874 --> 00:35:45,544 are insisting -- John Boehner and others -- 892 00:35:45,543 --> 00:35:48,343 that you replace the sequester with other cuts? 893 00:35:48,346 --> 00:35:50,346 There's certainly plenty of other cuts the 894 00:35:50,348 --> 00:35:52,848 President has in his own budget -- $400 billion 895 00:35:52,850 --> 00:35:55,790 in health care savings -- that in the past few years 896 00:35:55,786 --> 00:35:58,886 the President has put in a lock box, basically. 897 00:35:58,890 --> 00:36:01,690 He said, I'm only going to touch these entitlement 898 00:36:01,692 --> 00:36:05,432 cuts if the Republicans come to the table with 899 00:36:05,429 --> 00:36:06,769 a tax increase. 900 00:36:06,764 --> 00:36:08,234 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, Steve, we haven't seen 901 00:36:08,232 --> 00:36:10,232 a specific proposal from Republicans. 902 00:36:10,234 --> 00:36:12,204 But I do think that there is a principle that does 903 00:36:12,203 --> 00:36:14,643 endure to this day, which is the President believes 904 00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:16,639 that to the extent that we're looking to reduce 905 00:36:16,641 --> 00:36:18,641 the deficit even further, that we need to pursue 906 00:36:18,643 --> 00:36:20,643 a balanced approach in doing so. 907 00:36:20,645 --> 00:36:22,945 And just asking the middle class or the elderly 908 00:36:22,947 --> 00:36:25,047 to bear the burden of reducing our deficit, 909 00:36:25,049 --> 00:36:26,919 it's not fair. 910 00:36:26,918 --> 00:36:30,558 It's also not the best way for us to keep our 911 00:36:30,555 --> 00:36:32,595 commitment to our seniors. 912 00:36:32,590 --> 00:36:34,590 It's also not the best way to grow our economy. 913 00:36:34,592 --> 00:36:36,592 Our economy grows best when it's growing from 914 00:36:36,594 --> 00:36:37,594 the middle out. 915 00:36:37,595 --> 00:36:39,565 And asking our middle class to bear the burden 916 00:36:39,564 --> 00:36:41,934 alone of reducing the deficit, that doesn't make 917 00:36:41,933 --> 00:36:42,933 a lot of economic sense. 918 00:36:42,934 --> 00:36:44,934 And that is a principle the President has 919 00:36:44,936 --> 00:36:46,936 previously articulated, and it's one that 920 00:36:46,938 --> 00:36:47,938 continues to apply today. 921 00:36:47,939 --> 00:36:49,939 The Press: Is that actually still 922 00:36:49,941 --> 00:36:50,941 a veto threat, though? 923 00:36:50,942 --> 00:36:52,942 In the past he's said, "I will veto." 924 00:36:52,944 --> 00:36:56,744 I haven't heard that V-word on a sequester 925 00:36:56,747 --> 00:36:58,747 replacement that did not include revenue. 926 00:36:58,749 --> 00:37:00,749 Mr. Earnest: And the reason, simply, is that 927 00:37:00,751 --> 00:37:03,021 we haven't seen a specific piece of legislation 928 00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:04,120 from Republicans. 929 00:37:04,121 --> 00:37:06,791 And that is typically when we'll use the V-word, 930 00:37:06,791 --> 00:37:07,721 as you described it. 931 00:37:07,725 --> 00:37:09,965 So I'll withhold that word for now. 932 00:37:09,961 --> 00:37:12,731 But that principle is firmly in place. 933 00:37:13,798 --> 00:37:15,168 Mike. 934 00:37:15,166 --> 00:37:19,066 The Press: Speaking of taxes, you guys put out 935 00:37:19,070 --> 00:37:21,410 your proposal on international corporate 936 00:37:21,405 --> 00:37:24,975 taxes, and the Republicans -- who haven't always been 937 00:37:24,976 --> 00:37:27,646 kind to the administration -- had a lot of supportive 938 00:37:27,645 --> 00:37:28,645 things to say. 939 00:37:28,646 --> 00:37:32,386 Representative Boustany said it was the right direction. 940 00:37:32,383 --> 00:37:36,253 The Chairman of House Ways and Means said, constructive. 941 00:37:36,253 --> 00:37:39,093 Senator Enzi said, a step in the right direction. 942 00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:41,090 Is the White House encouraged by the 943 00:37:41,092 --> 00:37:43,062 Republican reaction so far? 944 00:37:43,060 --> 00:37:45,060 Mr. Earnest: Well, we certainly welcome that 945 00:37:45,062 --> 00:37:47,062 kind of constructive response from Republicans 946 00:37:47,064 --> 00:37:49,064 that -- again, that Representative Boustany 947 00:37:49,066 --> 00:37:51,236 is not somebody with whom we're going to agree 948 00:37:51,235 --> 00:37:52,235 on a lot of things. 949 00:37:52,236 --> 00:37:54,406 But we can't allow those disagreements on those 950 00:37:54,405 --> 00:37:56,775 other issues to prevent us from trying to find common 951 00:37:56,774 --> 00:37:57,804 ground where it does exist. 952 00:37:57,808 --> 00:37:59,948 And it sounds like, based on his comments, 953 00:37:59,944 --> 00:38:01,944 that there might be an opportunity for 954 00:38:01,946 --> 00:38:03,986 us to have a conversation and a constructive one -- 955 00:38:03,981 --> 00:38:07,581 no pun intended -- about -- nobody is going to laugh 956 00:38:07,585 --> 00:38:11,925 at that -- about international tax reform 957 00:38:11,922 --> 00:38:15,822 and using that revenue to invest in infrastructure projects. 958 00:38:15,826 --> 00:38:17,726 The Press: So is there an active conversation now 959 00:38:17,728 --> 00:38:21,668 going on with leaders in sort of tax thought 960 00:38:21,666 --> 00:38:23,136 on the Republican congressional side -- 961 00:38:23,134 --> 00:38:24,774 Mr. Earnest: Yes, I mean, this is something that 962 00:38:24,769 --> 00:38:27,639 we've been talking about for quite some time, 963 00:38:27,638 --> 00:38:28,978 and it's going to continue to be a part 964 00:38:28,973 --> 00:38:30,303 of the conversations. 965 00:38:30,307 --> 00:38:34,417 I know that the Director of the OMB, Shaun Donovan, 966 00:38:34,412 --> 00:38:37,052 is actually testifying on Capitol Hill today about 967 00:38:37,048 --> 00:38:38,248 some of these issues. 968 00:38:38,249 --> 00:38:40,289 So we certainly are interested in preserving 969 00:38:40,284 --> 00:38:41,454 an open dialogue on that. 970 00:38:41,452 --> 00:38:42,652 The Press: And since you've released that, 971 00:38:42,653 --> 00:38:44,823 have you had actual active discussions with 972 00:38:44,822 --> 00:38:46,462 Republicans on this? 973 00:38:46,457 --> 00:38:48,597 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, I'm not going to detail 974 00:38:48,592 --> 00:38:50,862 all of the discussions that have been underway. 975 00:38:50,861 --> 00:38:53,561 I don't know off the top of my head what committee 976 00:38:53,564 --> 00:38:55,564 Congressman Boustany serves on. 977 00:38:55,566 --> 00:38:57,666 Do you have it in front of you? 978 00:38:57,668 --> 00:38:58,468 No? 979 00:38:58,469 --> 00:38:59,499 The Press: I don't know -- 980 00:38:59,503 --> 00:39:01,073 Mr. Earnest: It's not a pop quiz, it's okay. 981 00:39:01,072 --> 00:39:02,272 Or I guess it's a pop quiz for me, but not for you. 982 00:39:02,273 --> 00:39:02,973 The Press: Twelve years ago I would have when 983 00:39:02,973 --> 00:39:03,973 I covered Congress. 984 00:39:03,974 --> 00:39:05,314 Mr. Earnest: The point is, there have been extensive 985 00:39:05,309 --> 00:39:07,449 conversations on Capitol Hill both in the run-up 986 00:39:07,445 --> 00:39:09,015 to and the immediate aftermath of the 987 00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:10,213 submission of the budget. 988 00:39:10,214 --> 00:39:11,554 And that's included congressional testimony 989 00:39:11,549 --> 00:39:14,989 from people like Secretary Lew and Shaun Donovan, 990 00:39:14,985 --> 00:39:16,225 the Director of the OMB. 991 00:39:16,220 --> 00:39:18,220 So those lines of communication are open. 992 00:39:18,222 --> 00:39:20,322 The Press: And last question on this. 993 00:39:20,324 --> 00:39:22,224 Other Republicans say, hey, the administration 994 00:39:22,226 --> 00:39:25,896 has not been good to deal with on taxes. 995 00:39:25,896 --> 00:39:28,236 Do you have any response to that sentiment among some? 996 00:39:28,232 --> 00:39:31,102 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, I'd encourage them to take 997 00:39:31,102 --> 00:39:33,142 it up with those Republicans that actually 998 00:39:33,137 --> 00:39:35,477 think we have put forward constructive proposals. 999 00:39:35,473 --> 00:39:39,373 And I do think that there are a lot of Democrats who 1000 00:39:39,376 --> 00:39:40,946 -- the vast majority of Democrats are strongly 1001 00:39:40,945 --> 00:39:43,785 supportive of the kinds of proposals that the 1002 00:39:43,781 --> 00:39:45,081 President has put forward. 1003 00:39:45,082 --> 00:39:46,952 So it seems possible to me that we can cobble 1004 00:39:46,951 --> 00:39:49,121 together a bipartisan coalition here relying 1005 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,560 on a large number of Republicans -- or at 1006 00:39:52,556 --> 00:39:54,826 least a large number of Democrats and at least 1007 00:39:54,825 --> 00:39:56,825 enough Republicans to move this across the finish line. 1008 00:39:56,827 --> 00:39:57,597 And that's -- 1009 00:39:57,595 --> 00:39:58,325 The Press: How likely? 1010 00:39:58,329 --> 00:39:59,159 Better than the Iranian deal? 1011 00:39:59,163 --> 00:40:00,503 (laughter) 1012 00:40:00,498 --> 00:40:02,238 Mr. Earnest: I wouldn't put any odds on a tax deal. 1013 00:40:02,233 --> 00:40:06,773 But we certainly view this as a worthy pursuit, 1014 00:40:06,771 --> 00:40:09,611 and it could be a fruitful conversation that we're 1015 00:40:09,607 --> 00:40:11,807 going to devote some significant time 1016 00:40:11,809 --> 00:40:13,249 and resources to pursuing. 1017 00:40:13,244 --> 00:40:14,614 John. 1018 00:40:14,612 --> 00:40:16,982 The Press: Thank you, Josh. 1019 00:40:16,981 --> 00:40:22,391 With the vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act, 1020 00:40:22,386 --> 00:40:26,286 I note that on other occasions you've said 1021 00:40:26,290 --> 00:40:29,530 and the President had said, there has been 40 such 1022 00:40:29,527 --> 00:40:30,627 votes to repeal it. 1023 00:40:30,628 --> 00:40:33,768 Republican members of Congress -- 1024 00:40:33,764 --> 00:40:35,434 Mr. Earnest: I think we're up to 56 now, aren't we? 1025 00:40:35,432 --> 00:40:36,602 The Press: Well, Republican members 1026 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,400 of Congress insist there are only four direct repeal 1027 00:40:40,404 --> 00:40:43,074 votes, and that many of the votes you count 1028 00:40:43,073 --> 00:40:46,173 as repeal votes are things that, for example, 1029 00:40:46,177 --> 00:40:49,147 are putting legislative force behind what the President 1030 00:40:49,146 --> 00:40:52,946 did by executive order, notably the delaying 1031 00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:55,920 of implementation in certain cases. 1032 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:56,850 What's your response? 1033 00:40:56,854 --> 00:40:59,754 Do you stand by the 56 figure? 1034 00:40:59,757 --> 00:41:02,827 Because they're saying that is inaccurate right now. 1035 00:41:02,827 --> 00:41:05,197 And many of the things you count are things the 1036 00:41:05,196 --> 00:41:06,366 President himself support. 1037 00:41:06,363 --> 00:41:08,963 Mr. Earnest: Well, I can't account for -- 1038 00:41:08,966 --> 00:41:11,366 there are 56 of them, so it's hard to account for every 1039 00:41:11,368 --> 00:41:12,308 single one of them. 1040 00:41:12,303 --> 00:41:13,503 The Press: Fifty-six of what? 1041 00:41:13,504 --> 00:41:14,474 Mr. Earnest: Efforts to undermine or repeal the 1042 00:41:14,471 --> 00:41:15,771 Affordable Care Act. 1043 00:41:15,773 --> 00:41:16,743 The Press: Undermine or repeal? 1044 00:41:16,740 --> 00:41:17,680 Mr. Earnest: Yes. 1045 00:41:17,675 --> 00:41:21,775 And so, since you brought it up, I did notice that 1046 00:41:21,779 --> 00:41:23,779 there were a couple of Republican members 1047 00:41:23,781 --> 00:41:27,621 of Congress who voted against repealing or undermining 1048 00:41:27,618 --> 00:41:31,318 the Affordable Care Act, and I was struck by why. 1049 00:41:31,322 --> 00:41:38,732 Congressman Poliquin said, "Show me a fix and you'll 1050 00:41:38,729 --> 00:41:40,229 have my support." 1051 00:41:40,231 --> 00:41:42,671 Congressman Katko said, "I am disappointed that the 1052 00:41:42,666 --> 00:41:45,036 bill taken up by Congress today did not provide 1053 00:41:45,035 --> 00:41:48,205 a real solution to the rising costs of health care." 1054 00:41:48,205 --> 00:41:51,845 And we saw Congressman Dold indicate that, 1055 00:41:51,842 --> 00:41:53,842 "Casting yet another symbolic vote for full 1056 00:41:53,844 --> 00:41:55,844 repeal of the law, without any replacement 1057 00:41:55,846 --> 00:41:58,016 legislation, simply distracts us from the 1058 00:41:58,015 --> 00:42:00,385 work that must be done." 1059 00:42:00,384 --> 00:42:03,524 This is an indication that even Republicans 1060 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,060 are a little skeptical of the promises from other 1061 00:42:06,056 --> 00:42:07,826 Republicans that they're actually going to come 1062 00:42:07,825 --> 00:42:11,365 forward with a specific replacement proposal; 1063 00:42:11,362 --> 00:42:14,002 that we see Republicans take these symbolic votes 1064 00:42:13,998 --> 00:42:16,338 that don't actually -- as Congressman Dold said 1065 00:42:16,333 --> 00:42:18,333 -- don't actually do anything other than 1066 00:42:18,335 --> 00:42:22,175 "distract us from the work that must be done." 1067 00:42:22,172 --> 00:42:25,212 And I think it is an indication that 1068 00:42:25,209 --> 00:42:27,449 Republicans are not really serious about health care 1069 00:42:27,444 --> 00:42:32,554 reform; that they continue to use this as a political 1070 00:42:32,549 --> 00:42:35,049 tool, but certainly the millions of Americans 1071 00:42:35,052 --> 00:42:37,052 across the country who are getting health insurance 1072 00:42:37,054 --> 00:42:39,054 because of the Affordable Care Act don't consider 1073 00:42:39,056 --> 00:42:41,296 this to be a game or anything like that. 1074 00:42:41,292 --> 00:42:42,762 The Press: So you're saying there's 56 1075 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,930 symbolic votes, is that correct? 1076 00:42:44,929 --> 00:42:46,869 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, I'm just relying on the 1077 00:42:46,864 --> 00:42:48,904 widespread public reporting of this. 1078 00:42:48,899 --> 00:42:50,469 Chris. 1079 00:42:50,467 --> 00:42:52,967 The Press: I just want to clarify when you were 1080 00:42:52,970 --> 00:42:55,910 asked about whether or not the coalition has been 1081 00:42:55,906 --> 00:43:00,006 strengthened or weakened by what has happened here, 1082 00:43:00,010 --> 00:43:02,880 and you said that we're redoubling our efforts 1083 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,880 and the commitment has been strengthened. 1084 00:43:04,882 --> 00:43:07,382 But I wonder, given the fact that before this 1085 00:43:07,384 --> 00:43:12,094 horrible murder of the pilot there were plans 1086 00:43:12,089 --> 00:43:14,089 to try to make a deal -- something that the 1087 00:43:14,091 --> 00:43:18,091 United States has not wanted to do -- and the fact 1088 00:43:18,095 --> 00:43:21,695 that the Emiratis have stopped with the airstrikes, 1089 00:43:21,699 --> 00:43:24,739 do you feel confident that the coalition has been 1090 00:43:24,735 --> 00:43:27,635 strengthened or has ISIS has been successful 1091 00:43:27,638 --> 00:43:28,938 in weakening it? 1092 00:43:28,939 --> 00:43:30,039 Mr. Earnest: No, I feel confident that the 1093 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,080 coalition has been strengthened. 1094 00:43:31,075 --> 00:43:32,245 The President of the United States thinks 1095 00:43:32,242 --> 00:43:33,442 that and the King of Jordan thinks that. 1096 00:43:33,444 --> 00:43:35,844 They both indicated as much yesterday. 1097 00:43:35,846 --> 00:43:40,486 Again, I'm reluctant to say much about a Jordanian 1098 00:43:40,484 --> 00:43:42,484 effort to secure the release of their pilot 1099 00:43:42,486 --> 00:43:44,486 but I'm confident in saying that their efforts 1100 00:43:44,488 --> 00:43:47,428 to secure his release in no way reflected a diminished 1101 00:43:47,424 --> 00:43:50,594 commitment to the broader international coalition 1102 00:43:50,594 --> 00:43:53,534 or the broader strategy against ISIL. 1103 00:43:53,530 --> 00:43:55,800 And, again, I think if you look at the success that 1104 00:43:55,799 --> 00:43:58,169 we've had -- whether it's driving ISIL fighters 1105 00:43:58,168 --> 00:44:02,138 out of Kobani or repelling and rolling back the advance 1106 00:44:02,139 --> 00:44:05,409 of ISIL fighters across Western Iraq, the success 1107 00:44:05,409 --> 00:44:07,409 that we've had in shutting down the sources 1108 00:44:07,411 --> 00:44:10,311 of funding -- that there a variety of measures that 1109 00:44:10,314 --> 00:44:12,554 we can point to, to indicate that this 1110 00:44:12,549 --> 00:44:15,919 coalition, this strong coalition is continuing 1111 00:44:15,919 --> 00:44:19,289 to build momentum as we take the fight to ISIL. 1112 00:44:19,289 --> 00:44:21,729 And now, as I pointed out to Ed, this doesn't mean 1113 00:44:21,725 --> 00:44:23,725 -- this is not a score that we can keep on a 1114 00:44:23,727 --> 00:44:25,767 daily basis; that these kinds of efforts require 1115 00:44:25,763 --> 00:44:27,763 sustained commitment and there are going 1116 00:44:27,765 --> 00:44:28,765 to be setbacks. 1117 00:44:28,766 --> 00:44:32,436 But I think the overall trajectory here 1118 00:44:32,436 --> 00:44:33,636 is positive. 1119 00:44:33,637 --> 00:44:34,877 The Press: You said that you couldn't give 1120 00:44:34,872 --> 00:44:37,072 any detail on the conversation, 1121 00:44:37,074 --> 00:44:39,014 but do you have anything more for us on that 1122 00:44:39,009 --> 00:44:40,179 conversation yesterday? 1123 00:44:40,177 --> 00:44:43,047 And since the President met with the King, 1124 00:44:43,047 --> 00:44:44,947 has he made any other calls to leaders 1125 00:44:44,948 --> 00:44:47,188 of the coalition countries? 1126 00:44:47,184 --> 00:44:49,324 Mr. Earnest: I don't have any additional readout 1127 00:44:49,319 --> 00:44:51,089 of the conversation between the President 1128 00:44:51,088 --> 00:44:53,088 and the King. 1129 00:44:53,090 --> 00:44:54,930 As it relates to calls with foreign leaders, 1130 00:44:54,925 --> 00:44:56,895 I'm not aware of any that the President 1131 00:44:56,894 --> 00:44:57,894 has placed since last night. 1132 00:44:57,895 --> 00:44:59,895 The Press: And then, just finally, the President 1133 00:44:59,897 --> 00:45:02,097 had said over the weekend that anything kind 1134 00:45:02,099 --> 00:45:05,239 of related to this he takes a look at, when he did the 1135 00:45:05,235 --> 00:45:06,405 interview with Savannah. 1136 00:45:06,403 --> 00:45:08,343 Do you know if he's seen this latest video? 1137 00:45:08,338 --> 00:45:09,178 Mr. Earnest: I do not know whether 1138 00:45:09,173 --> 00:45:10,573 or not he's seen it, no. 1139 00:45:10,574 --> 00:45:11,704 Bill. 1140 00:45:11,708 --> 00:45:14,448 The Press: We've got a new national security strategy 1141 00:45:14,445 --> 00:45:16,545 scheduled to be announced on Friday. 1142 00:45:16,547 --> 00:45:19,647 Will it contain more specifics about exactly 1143 00:45:19,650 --> 00:45:23,450 what the strategy is in Iraq, Afghanistan 1144 00:45:23,454 --> 00:45:25,454 and generally in combatting ISIS? 1145 00:45:25,456 --> 00:45:31,396 And will it contain a draft resolution or an authorization 1146 00:45:31,395 --> 00:45:33,535 of the use of military force? 1147 00:45:33,530 --> 00:45:36,700 Mr. Earnest: I will encourage you to stay 1148 00:45:36,700 --> 00:45:40,440 tuned for the release of that document. 1149 00:45:40,437 --> 00:45:42,607 I know that the national security advisor intends 1150 00:45:42,606 --> 00:45:45,576 to give a public speech on this issue on Friday 1151 00:45:45,576 --> 00:45:47,576 as well, so there will be a couple of ways you can 1152 00:45:47,578 --> 00:45:48,678 learn what's included in there. 1153 00:45:48,679 --> 00:45:50,679 As it relates to the authorization to use 1154 00:45:50,681 --> 00:45:52,721 military force, I don't anticipate that that 1155 00:45:52,716 --> 00:45:55,056 is something that will be released in the context 1156 00:45:55,052 --> 00:45:57,892 of the national security strategy, but there has 1157 00:45:57,888 --> 00:46:00,958 been important work and important progress made 1158 00:46:00,958 --> 00:46:02,998 on that ongoing effort to consult with members 1159 00:46:02,993 --> 00:46:06,693 of Congress to develop legislative language that 1160 00:46:06,697 --> 00:46:07,967 could earn bipartisan support. 1161 00:46:07,965 --> 00:46:10,265 And I would anticipate that we'll have some 1162 00:46:10,267 --> 00:46:14,567 more news on an AUMF relatively soon. 1163 00:46:14,571 --> 00:46:15,641 The Press: How soon? 1164 00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:16,909 Mr. Earnest: Relatively soon. 1165 00:46:16,907 --> 00:46:18,307 John. 1166 00:46:18,308 --> 00:46:19,308 The Press: Thanks a lot, Josh. 1167 00:46:19,309 --> 00:46:22,509 I just wanted to follow up on a question that Isaac 1168 00:46:22,513 --> 00:46:25,913 asked a little bit earlier about the upcoming visit 1169 00:46:25,916 --> 00:46:28,116 by Prime Minister Netanyahu to the U.S. 1170 00:46:28,118 --> 00:46:31,618 and the address that he will give to a joint 1171 00:46:31,622 --> 00:46:32,952 session of Congress. 1172 00:46:32,956 --> 00:46:35,556 You have said that the reason that the President 1173 00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:38,229 won't be meeting with the Prime Minister is because 1174 00:46:38,228 --> 00:46:40,328 you don't want to give the appearance of somehow 1175 00:46:40,330 --> 00:46:43,930 influencing the Israeli election. 1176 00:46:43,934 --> 00:46:46,634 Would that same rationale apply to the 1177 00:46:46,637 --> 00:46:51,277 Vice President's attendance at the joint session of Congress? 1178 00:46:51,275 --> 00:46:53,545 Mr. Earnest: Well, we'll see, I think is really the 1179 00:46:53,544 --> 00:46:55,544 best answer I can give you there. 1180 00:46:55,546 --> 00:46:57,546 We're still working through exactly what the 1181 00:46:57,548 --> 00:46:59,548 Vice President's schedule is going to look like that 1182 00:46:59,550 --> 00:47:02,390 first week in March, and certainly as we consider 1183 00:47:02,386 --> 00:47:04,956 the Vice President's attendance, that's one 1184 00:47:04,955 --> 00:47:07,155 of the factors that we'll weigh on that decision. 1185 00:47:07,157 --> 00:47:10,057 The Press: You also said in answering Isaac's 1186 00:47:10,060 --> 00:47:12,860 question that the Vice President has been here 1187 00:47:12,863 --> 00:47:15,333 for virtually every joint session of Congress when a 1188 00:47:15,332 --> 00:47:17,272 foreign leader has spoken. 1189 00:47:17,267 --> 00:47:20,167 You mentioned the one time he hasn't been there was 1190 00:47:20,170 --> 00:47:21,410 when he was out of town. 1191 00:47:21,405 --> 00:47:24,975 If he's in town on that particular day, should the 1192 00:47:24,975 --> 00:47:27,275 Israeli government see that as a sign of 1193 00:47:27,277 --> 00:47:28,347 disrespect? 1194 00:47:28,345 --> 00:47:30,185 How do you think they should view that? 1195 00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:32,180 Mr. Earnest: Well, let's wait until we've made a 1196 00:47:32,182 --> 00:47:34,182 decision and that decision has been carried out 1197 00:47:34,184 --> 00:47:37,054 before we start estimating exactly what the reaction 1198 00:47:37,054 --> 00:47:38,054 will be from other people. 1199 00:47:38,055 --> 00:47:40,755 The Press: Just one last question regarding this. 1200 00:47:40,757 --> 00:47:46,397 Does the President view the invitation by House 1201 00:47:46,396 --> 00:47:50,966 Speaker John Boehner as an effort to influence the 1202 00:47:50,968 --> 00:47:52,608 Israeli election in any way? 1203 00:47:52,603 --> 00:47:54,803 Mr. Earnest: Well, what the President has said is 1204 00:47:54,805 --> 00:47:58,075 that that was a decision that the Speaker made on 1205 00:47:58,075 --> 00:47:59,145 his own. 1206 00:47:59,142 --> 00:48:04,112 It did represent a departure from protocol, 1207 00:48:04,114 --> 00:48:06,284 but ultimately, that's a decision that the 1208 00:48:06,283 --> 00:48:08,223 Speaker of the House has to make. 1209 00:48:08,218 --> 00:48:11,258 The President believes that it is important for 1210 00:48:11,255 --> 00:48:14,725 us to ensure that the Israeli-U.S. 1211 00:48:14,725 --> 00:48:16,695 relationship does not get reduced to partisan 1212 00:48:16,693 --> 00:48:18,693 politics; that the relationship between our 1213 00:48:18,695 --> 00:48:20,695 two countries is much more than the relationship 1214 00:48:20,697 --> 00:48:23,437 between two political parties. 1215 00:48:23,433 --> 00:48:25,433 And that is an important principle, and the 1216 00:48:25,435 --> 00:48:26,405 President is going to conduct himself 1217 00:48:26,403 --> 00:48:27,433 accordingly. 1218 00:48:27,437 --> 00:48:30,937 We're hopeful that other members of Congress and other U.S. 1219 00:48:30,941 --> 00:48:33,081 and Israeli leaders will do the same. 1220 00:48:33,076 --> 00:48:35,946 But ultimately, they'll have to determine -- make 1221 00:48:35,946 --> 00:48:38,286 their own decisions about their behavior. 1222 00:48:38,282 --> 00:48:39,282 Dave. 1223 00:48:39,283 --> 00:48:40,183 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 1224 00:48:40,183 --> 00:48:42,283 Can you tell us anything about the President's 1225 00:48:42,286 --> 00:48:44,356 agenda for his meeting with Muslim leaders this 1226 00:48:44,354 --> 00:48:45,754 afternoon? 1227 00:48:45,756 --> 00:48:47,426 Mr. Earnest: Well, I can tell you that the 1228 00:48:47,424 --> 00:48:49,424 President is looking forward to the meeting 1229 00:48:49,426 --> 00:48:51,426 that he'll do a little later this afternoon. 1230 00:48:51,428 --> 00:48:53,428 It's not unusual for the President to meet with the 1231 00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:56,100 leaders of a wide variety of communities from across 1232 00:48:56,099 --> 00:48:57,639 the country. 1233 00:48:57,634 --> 00:48:59,874 Sometimes that includes religious leaders; 1234 00:48:59,870 --> 00:49:05,410 sometimes that includes leaders that are involved 1235 00:49:05,409 --> 00:49:09,749 in academia or other specific issue areas. 1236 00:49:09,746 --> 00:49:11,786 What the President is hoping to do is to have a 1237 00:49:11,782 --> 00:49:14,682 broader conversation about the wide range of issues 1238 00:49:14,685 --> 00:49:19,025 that are of importance to the Muslim American 1239 00:49:19,022 --> 00:49:20,022 community. 1240 00:49:20,023 --> 00:49:22,163 Certainly I would expect a robust discussion on a lot 1241 00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:24,199 of the kind of middle-class economics 1242 00:49:24,194 --> 00:49:26,434 that the President has been discussing in the 1243 00:49:26,430 --> 00:49:28,430 State of the Union and in the context of the rollout 1244 00:49:28,432 --> 00:49:29,432 of his budget. 1245 00:49:29,433 --> 00:49:32,273 I would anticipate that it will be an opportunity for 1246 00:49:32,269 --> 00:49:33,639 the President to talk about some other things. 1247 00:49:33,637 --> 00:49:35,677 I'm confident that he'll remind them of the 1248 00:49:35,672 --> 00:49:37,672 upcoming deadline for the Affordable Care Act, and 1249 00:49:37,674 --> 00:49:39,674 encouraging them to get the word out in their 1250 00:49:39,676 --> 00:49:41,676 communities about the opportunity that exists 1251 00:49:41,678 --> 00:49:43,678 for people who previously couldn't afford health 1252 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,980 insurance but now may be able to by going to 1253 00:49:45,982 --> 00:49:46,982 healthcare.gov. 1254 00:49:46,983 --> 00:49:48,983 So I think it will be a pretty wide-ranging meeting. 1255 00:49:48,985 --> 00:49:50,725 We're going to do our best to get you a readout of 1256 00:49:50,721 --> 00:49:52,721 that meeting. 1257 00:49:52,723 --> 00:49:54,693 The Press: Could I ask a follow-up on the hangings 1258 00:49:54,691 --> 00:49:57,761 in Jordan last night? 1259 00:49:57,761 --> 00:50:00,101 I'm just wondering if the President agrees that 1260 00:50:00,097 --> 00:50:02,897 there's an important international principle of 1261 00:50:02,899 --> 00:50:05,639 law here, because after the burning of the 1262 00:50:05,635 --> 00:50:08,935 Jordanian pilot, the spokesman for the 1263 00:50:08,939 --> 00:50:11,339 government of Jordan came out and said "we will have 1264 00:50:11,341 --> 00:50:12,911 revenge." 1265 00:50:12,909 --> 00:50:15,449 And then hours later, they carried out these two 1266 00:50:15,445 --> 00:50:16,685 executions. 1267 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,220 So my question is, does the President support any 1268 00:50:20,217 --> 00:50:25,287 ally using the death penalty as a form of revenge? 1269 00:50:25,288 --> 00:50:28,828 Mr. Earnest: Well, Dave, again, the executions that 1270 00:50:28,825 --> 00:50:32,295 were carried out by the Jordanian justice system 1271 00:50:32,295 --> 00:50:35,435 were -- I guess questions about those executions are 1272 00:50:35,432 --> 00:50:37,432 questions that you should direct to Jordanian 1273 00:50:37,434 --> 00:50:38,434 authorities. 1274 00:50:38,435 --> 00:50:40,405 Again, these are individuals who were 1275 00:50:40,404 --> 00:50:42,404 convicted of very serious terrorism-related crimes. 1276 00:50:42,406 --> 00:50:44,976 They were sentenced to death, and they had been 1277 00:50:44,975 --> 00:50:46,105 serving time on death row. 1278 00:50:49,212 --> 00:50:52,482 So for questions about how, or why, or what the 1279 00:50:52,482 --> 00:50:54,922 motivation was for carrying out that sentence 1280 00:50:54,918 --> 00:50:57,358 are questions that you should direct to Jordanian 1281 00:50:57,354 --> 00:50:58,354 authorities. 1282 00:50:58,355 --> 00:51:00,925 Let me just say that the United States continues to 1283 00:51:00,924 --> 00:51:05,494 stand strongly beside our friends in Jordan. 1284 00:51:05,495 --> 00:51:08,565 And we continue to welcome their support and 1285 00:51:08,565 --> 00:51:10,905 commitment to this broader international campaign to 1286 00:51:10,901 --> 00:51:12,941 degrade and ultimately destroy ISIL. 1287 00:51:12,936 --> 00:51:14,936 Yes, ma'am, I'll give you the last one. 1288 00:51:14,938 --> 00:51:16,938 The Press: Thank you very much, Josh. 1289 00:51:16,940 --> 00:51:19,280 On North Korea, the North Korean leader emphasized 1290 00:51:19,276 --> 00:51:23,676 that North Korea don't want to talk with the 1291 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,750 United States anymore. 1292 00:51:25,749 --> 00:51:29,419 What would be President Obama's policy toward 1293 00:51:29,419 --> 00:51:31,359 North Korea? 1294 00:51:31,354 --> 00:51:33,794 Mr. Earnest: What would be President Obama's -- 1295 00:51:39,796 --> 00:51:40,996 I'm sorry I don't understand -- 1296 00:51:40,997 --> 00:51:46,567 The Press: Policy to North Korea. 1297 00:51:46,570 --> 00:51:48,940 Mr. Earnest: Sorry that I had difficulty 1298 00:51:48,939 --> 00:51:50,639 understanding. 1299 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,440 Our policy toward North Korea has not changed. 1300 00:51:52,442 --> 00:51:54,382 We believe it is critically important for 1301 00:51:54,377 --> 00:51:56,377 that regime to come into compliance with generally 1302 00:51:56,379 --> 00:51:58,549 accepted international standards and to start 1303 00:51:58,548 --> 00:52:00,648 doing the kinds of things that reflect the 1304 00:52:00,650 --> 00:52:02,690 commitment to basic universal human rights 1305 00:52:02,686 --> 00:52:04,826 that we hold dear in this country, and we believe 1306 00:52:04,821 --> 00:52:07,421 that other governments have a responsibility to 1307 00:52:07,424 --> 00:52:09,894 protect those basic human rights when it comes to 1308 00:52:09,893 --> 00:52:10,893 their citizens. 1309 00:52:10,894 --> 00:52:12,694 And that policy hasn't changed. 1310 00:52:12,696 --> 00:52:14,936 Certainly, our efforts to work with the 1311 00:52:14,931 --> 00:52:19,131 international community, to try to bring North 1312 00:52:19,135 --> 00:52:23,075 Korea into compliance with those things, those 1313 00:52:23,073 --> 00:52:24,203 efforts continue. 1314 00:52:24,207 --> 00:52:27,807 And certainly other countries, even countries 1315 00:52:27,811 --> 00:52:30,151 that we don't often have a close alliance with -- 1316 00:52:30,146 --> 00:52:32,846 countries like Russia and China -- have an interest 1317 00:52:32,849 --> 00:52:35,189 in the same way that we do in trying to resolve the 1318 00:52:35,185 --> 00:52:38,125 international community's significant concerns about 1319 00:52:38,121 --> 00:52:40,491 North Korea, about North Korea's treatment of their 1320 00:52:40,490 --> 00:52:42,730 citizens, and about North Korea's nuclear program. 1321 00:52:42,726 --> 00:52:44,426 And those efforts are ongoing. 1322 00:52:44,427 --> 00:52:46,627 The Press: It would be more aggressively 1323 00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:49,500 approaching the North Korea, the United States 1324 00:52:49,499 --> 00:52:53,299 (inaudible) more aggressively? 1325 00:52:53,303 --> 00:52:54,503 Mr. Earnest: At this point, I don't have 1326 00:52:54,504 --> 00:52:57,474 a change in strategy or policy to tell you about. 1327 00:52:57,474 --> 00:52:58,544 Thank you, guys.