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1 00:00:00,900 --> 00:00:04,100 Mr. Carney: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. 2 00:00:04,100 --> 00:00:05,366 Good afternoon. 3 00:00:05,367 --> 00:00:08,467 Welcome to the White House for your daily briefing. 4 00:00:08,467 --> 00:00:12,867 I know there's a call time for the Medal of Honor ceremony, 5 00:00:12,867 --> 00:00:15,767 so we're going to have to keep this quick so everybody who 6 00:00:15,767 --> 00:00:19,100 wants to attend, or is scheduled to attend, can do that. 7 00:00:19,100 --> 00:00:21,033 I just wanted to note at the top -- and I'll do this quickly -- 8 00:00:21,033 --> 00:00:25,066 that you probably saw a blog post by Senior Advisor Dan 9 00:00:25,066 --> 00:00:28,099 Pfeiffer over the weekend that makes clear a couple of points, 10 00:00:28,100 --> 00:00:34,400 and that is that, first, there is no reason why we should allow 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,467 the sequester, with its indiscriminate cuts, 12 00:00:38,467 --> 00:00:39,467 to take effect. 13 00:00:39,467 --> 00:00:44,367 It is wholly false that the President has not put forward 14 00:00:44,367 --> 00:00:46,599 proposals that would eliminate the sequester. 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,233 In fact, he's done it three times -- 16 00:00:49,233 --> 00:00:52,000 first, with his proposal to the super committee, 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,900 which would have eliminated the sequester entirely. 18 00:00:53,900 --> 00:00:58,132 That was the whole idea behind the super committee's work. 19 00:00:58,133 --> 00:00:59,233 Second, with his budget. 20 00:00:59,233 --> 00:01:01,400 And third, in his proposal to Speaker Boehner, 21 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,633 which met Republicans more than halfway on spending cuts and 22 00:01:05,633 --> 00:01:11,399 entitlement reforms and revenues late last year. 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,100 We call on Congress -- as you heard the President do -- 24 00:01:15,100 --> 00:01:20,232 to allow itself the time and space to work together towards 25 00:01:20,233 --> 00:01:24,066 a broader budget agreement that eliminates the sequester 26 00:01:24,066 --> 00:01:31,967 entirely and reduces our deficit further by passing a short-term 27 00:01:31,967 --> 00:01:34,967 delay in the sequester in a balanced, responsible way -- 28 00:01:34,967 --> 00:01:38,667 without drama, without delay, without inflicting the kind of 29 00:01:38,667 --> 00:01:44,000 unnecessary wound on our economy that we should absolutely not be 30 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,433 allowing to happen at this time. 31 00:01:45,433 --> 00:01:52,333 So I would also like to address briefly the fallacious 32 00:01:52,333 --> 00:01:56,200 assertions that Republicans have been making about who wants the 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,700 sequester and who doesn't. 34 00:01:58,700 --> 00:02:03,934 Let's just be clear: When the Budget Control Act passed on 35 00:02:03,934 --> 00:02:07,265 August 11th, 2011, through the House of Representatives, 36 00:02:07,266 --> 00:02:12,233 it passed by a vote of 269 to 161. 37 00:02:12,233 --> 00:02:14,166 Based on statements by Republicans today, 38 00:02:14,166 --> 00:02:16,433 you would have thought that the vast majority of that vote was 39 00:02:16,433 --> 00:02:17,400 from Democrats. 40 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:22,066 Well, in fact, 174 of the 269 were Republicans, 41 00:02:22,066 --> 00:02:23,066 House Republicans. 42 00:02:23,066 --> 00:02:27,967 Only 95 Democrats voted for that bill. 43 00:02:27,967 --> 00:02:30,867 And that included every Republican leader -- 44 00:02:30,867 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker Boehner, Majority Leader Cantor, Congressman McCarthy, 45 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,233 Congressman Ryan. 46 00:02:37,233 --> 00:02:40,066 The Speaker of the House, John Boehner, that day told CBS, 47 00:02:40,066 --> 00:02:42,500 "I got 98% of what I wanted. 48 00:02:42,500 --> 00:02:43,867 I'm pretty happy." 49 00:02:43,867 --> 00:02:45,834 So I'm not sure how that squares with some of the 50 00:02:45,834 --> 00:02:47,400 commentary we've seen in the last few weeks. 51 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,400 With that, I'll take your questions. 52 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,500 Jim. 53 00:02:49,500 --> 00:02:50,300 The Press: Thanks, Jay. 54 00:02:50,300 --> 00:02:54,000 On that issue, particularly on the short-term solution 55 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,066 that buys time and space, some lawmakers are suggesting that 56 00:02:59,066 --> 00:03:02,967 Congress could give the President authority to 57 00:03:02,967 --> 00:03:07,000 better target some of these cuts in the short term. 58 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,200 Would the President be amenable to that? 59 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,033 That would be one way to avoid the kind of meat-cleaver 60 00:03:13,033 --> 00:03:17,266 approach that you say that sequester imposes on the budget. 61 00:03:17,266 --> 00:03:19,333 Mr. Carney: Well, Jim, I'm not sure if you were in the seat on Friday; 62 00:03:19,333 --> 00:03:21,466 we had a pretty lengthy briefing -- 63 00:03:21,467 --> 00:03:24,633 gaggle with some experts on this. 64 00:03:24,633 --> 00:03:25,567 There is simply -- 65 00:03:25,567 --> 00:03:29,667 there is no convenient exit ramp to the punitive nature of these 66 00:03:29,667 --> 00:03:31,500 across-the-board cuts. 67 00:03:31,500 --> 00:03:35,533 They would have a devastating effect on our economy. 68 00:03:35,533 --> 00:03:37,232 They would threaten the jobs of hundreds 69 00:03:37,233 --> 00:03:39,033 of thousands of Americans. 70 00:03:39,033 --> 00:03:43,232 They would severely affect middle-class Americans. 71 00:03:43,233 --> 00:03:46,066 They would harm our national security. 72 00:03:46,066 --> 00:03:49,900 There is no means by which you can avoid that. 73 00:03:49,900 --> 00:03:55,433 The issue here is we don't have to have it happen. 74 00:03:55,433 --> 00:04:02,533 The Congress passed on January 1st a measure that extended the 75 00:04:02,533 --> 00:04:04,600 sequester by two months, that bought it down, 76 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,733 that delayed it to allow for more time 77 00:04:07,734 --> 00:04:09,066 and congressional consideration. 78 00:04:09,066 --> 00:04:10,800 We need to do that again. 79 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,500 When the Congress did it just a few months ago, 80 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:14,367 they did it in a way that was balanced. 81 00:04:14,367 --> 00:04:15,399 They ought to do that again. 82 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,367 There is simply no reason that we should inflict this kind of 83 00:04:18,367 --> 00:04:23,800 direct harm on our economy when we don't have to; when, in fact, 84 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,934 what we're trying to do here is, as the President said, 85 00:04:26,934 --> 00:04:29,500 embrace the fact that in Congress there is a movement 86 00:04:29,500 --> 00:04:32,333 towards returning to so-called regular order when it comes to 87 00:04:32,333 --> 00:04:36,533 budget processes, and to allow that process to move forward, 88 00:04:36,533 --> 00:04:39,400 allow it to generate, hopefully, a balanced deficit reduction 89 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,667 plan that continues to invest in our economy in the right areas 90 00:04:42,667 --> 00:04:47,433 to help it grow; and let that produce -- 91 00:04:47,433 --> 00:04:49,767 that process produce a result that the President 92 00:04:49,767 --> 00:04:51,033 hopefully can sign. 93 00:04:51,033 --> 00:04:53,433 In the meantime, we ought to take the common-sense measure to 94 00:04:53,433 --> 00:04:59,567 buy down the sequester without drama so that we don't have, 95 00:04:59,567 --> 00:05:02,800 in the midst of a year when we are poised for further economic 96 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,266 growth and job creation, a real setback to our economy. 97 00:05:06,266 --> 00:05:08,600 The Press: But I don't think they're -- I don't think I see this 98 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:09,700 as an offering. 99 00:05:09,700 --> 00:05:12,667 It's just placing the authority -- 100 00:05:12,667 --> 00:05:13,967 some would say the responsibility -- 101 00:05:13,967 --> 00:05:16,265 on the White House to just identify where those 102 00:05:16,266 --> 00:05:19,066 short-term cuts could -- 103 00:05:19,066 --> 00:05:21,900 Mr. Carney: Well, and first of all, the -- as again, 104 00:05:21,900 --> 00:05:25,366 I would point you to the detailed briefing that was 105 00:05:25,367 --> 00:05:27,934 given here on Friday from some of the experts and this 106 00:05:27,934 --> 00:05:29,900 question was asked. 107 00:05:29,900 --> 00:05:31,799 The law is written as it's written. 108 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,100 It's punitive, it's across the board. 109 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:38,633 The way that it would have negative impacts would be felt 110 00:05:38,633 --> 00:05:44,066 in manners that would do great harm to our economy. 111 00:05:44,066 --> 00:05:46,166 And when you're talking about $85 billion over the short 112 00:05:46,166 --> 00:05:48,233 period of time that we're talking about, 113 00:05:48,233 --> 00:05:52,934 the impact would be significant no matter how you applied it. 114 00:05:52,934 --> 00:05:55,467 The Press: Real quick -- on the State of the Union, a lot of us 115 00:05:55,467 --> 00:05:59,834 are reporting about the emphasis on job creation and the economy. 116 00:06:02,567 --> 00:06:04,867 The President is going to talk about infrastructure, 117 00:06:04,867 --> 00:06:08,533 public works, emphasis on educational opportunities. 118 00:06:08,533 --> 00:06:12,433 Those are things that he emphasized in his first term 119 00:06:12,433 --> 00:06:14,599 and, to some degree, they sound recycled. 120 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,367 And I'm wondering what's going to be new about them this time, 121 00:06:17,367 --> 00:06:21,300 and does the President need to emphasize that the economy is 122 00:06:21,300 --> 00:06:23,667 perhaps in a worse place than it was before in order 123 00:06:23,667 --> 00:06:26,599 to make that case? 124 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,800 Mr. Carney: Well, the economy is not in a worse place than it was before. 125 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,000 If you talk about the comparison between now and when he gave his 126 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,066 first State of the Union address, there is no comparison. 127 00:06:35,066 --> 00:06:37,032 We were in economic freefall. 128 00:06:37,033 --> 00:06:40,734 What the President has been saying and I'm sure will say 129 00:06:40,734 --> 00:06:43,967 again is that we are at a moment when the economy is poised to 130 00:06:43,967 --> 00:06:46,800 continue to grow, to continue to build on the progress we've 131 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,767 made, to continue to build on the job creation that we've 132 00:06:49,767 --> 00:06:50,933 achieved -- over 6. 133 00:06:50,934 --> 00:06:55,233 1 million jobs created by our businesses over the past 134 00:06:55,233 --> 00:06:58,834 35 or 36 months. 135 00:06:58,834 --> 00:07:02,667 What is also true -- I mean, the idea that his emphasis 136 00:07:02,667 --> 00:07:05,099 on the need to continue to create jobs or to continue 137 00:07:05,100 --> 00:07:09,567 to have our manufacturing sector expand -- that work isn't done. 138 00:07:09,567 --> 00:07:11,834 So you can believe that he will continue to focus on that. 139 00:07:11,834 --> 00:07:17,100 I've said many times that his principal preoccupation as 140 00:07:17,100 --> 00:07:22,133 President has been the need to first reverse the devastating 141 00:07:22,133 --> 00:07:26,532 decline in our economy and then set it on a trajectory where 142 00:07:26,533 --> 00:07:30,700 it's growing in a way that helps the middle class, 143 00:07:30,700 --> 00:07:35,834 makes it more secure, and makes it expand so that those who are 144 00:07:35,834 --> 00:07:38,533 trying to reach into the middle -- 145 00:07:38,533 --> 00:07:41,700 to climb the ladder, if you will, into the middle class -- 146 00:07:41,700 --> 00:07:42,767 have that opportunity. 147 00:07:42,767 --> 00:07:47,400 That is absolutely going to be his focus in the second term as 148 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,265 it was in the first term. 149 00:07:50,266 --> 00:07:54,867 The Press: So if that's his focus, in the speech are we going to 150 00:07:54,867 --> 00:07:57,633 hear specifics about new plans for manufacturing, 151 00:07:57,633 --> 00:08:00,500 new plans for these areas of economic growth? 152 00:08:00,500 --> 00:08:02,367 Can we expect to hear that? 153 00:08:02,367 --> 00:08:04,633 Mr. Carney: Well, I obviously will not get into specifics. 154 00:08:04,633 --> 00:08:06,500 But you will hear in the President's State of the 155 00:08:06,500 --> 00:08:10,200 Union an outline from him for his plan to create jobs and grow 156 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,033 the middle class. 157 00:08:11,033 --> 00:08:14,633 The President has always viewed the two speeches, 158 00:08:14,633 --> 00:08:16,099 the Inaugural Address and the State of The Union, 159 00:08:16,100 --> 00:08:18,300 as two acts in the same play. 160 00:08:18,300 --> 00:08:22,033 And the fact is, while there was a focus on some of the 161 00:08:22,033 --> 00:08:23,934 other elements of the Inaugural Address, 162 00:08:23,934 --> 00:08:29,000 that the core emphasis that he has always placed in these big 163 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,400 speeches remains the same and will remain the same, 164 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,900 which is the need to make the economy work for the middle 165 00:08:34,900 --> 00:08:38,332 class, because the middle class is the engine that drives this 166 00:08:38,332 --> 00:08:43,900 country forward and which will, if it is given the right tools 167 00:08:43,900 --> 00:08:46,699 and the right opportunities, will drive us forward in the 168 00:08:46,700 --> 00:08:47,934 21st century. 169 00:08:47,934 --> 00:08:50,934 I'm not going to get into specifics in terms of my preview 170 00:08:50,934 --> 00:08:51,934 here of the State of the Union. 171 00:08:51,934 --> 00:08:56,233 But he will focus on the proposals that are necessary 172 00:08:56,233 --> 00:08:59,867 to help the middle class grow and help the economy grow. 173 00:08:59,867 --> 00:09:03,699 The Press: Does the President plan to call for cuts in nuclear arms in his 174 00:09:03,700 --> 00:09:06,400 speech, as the New York Times has reported? 175 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:11,766 Mr. Carney: Well, I would say that the President made clear publicly 176 00:09:11,767 --> 00:09:14,066 his desire to further reduce nuclear arms. 177 00:09:14,066 --> 00:09:19,633 I don't think there was anything new in the story that suggested 178 00:09:19,633 --> 00:09:20,633 to the contrary. 179 00:09:20,633 --> 00:09:23,000 His commitment to arms control and nuclear reductions 180 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,000 is well known. 181 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,433 But I do not anticipate a new announcement in the State of 182 00:09:27,433 --> 00:09:29,266 the Union address. 183 00:09:29,266 --> 00:09:29,900 Dan. 184 00:09:29,900 --> 00:09:30,699 The Press: Thanks, Jay. 185 00:09:30,700 --> 00:09:33,400 Some Republicans are being critical of the President's 186 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,867 focus, what's expected to happen during the State of the Union on 187 00:09:36,867 --> 00:09:40,567 jobs and the economy, saying that he's now pivoting back to 188 00:09:40,567 --> 00:09:45,767 jobs and dropped the ball during his Inaugural Address. 189 00:09:45,767 --> 00:09:47,967 Do they have a point there that the President hasn't been 190 00:09:47,967 --> 00:09:53,165 emphasizing job creation over the last few months and now is 191 00:09:53,166 --> 00:09:55,600 suddenly turning back to it? 192 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,800 Mr. Carney: Well, I would argue that all the time we collectively spent 193 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,367 at the end of the year right up until New Year's Day focused on 194 00:10:02,367 --> 00:10:06,000 a fiscal cliff deal was very much about the need to take 195 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,367 action to ensure that we didn't inflict harm on our economy, 196 00:10:09,367 --> 00:10:13,065 to take action to ensure that regular folks out there, 197 00:10:13,066 --> 00:10:18,100 middle-class Americans, had tax cuts extended to allow them to 198 00:10:18,100 --> 00:10:21,934 make ends meet and to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. 199 00:10:23,734 --> 00:10:25,433 I don't have the numbers for you, 200 00:10:25,433 --> 00:10:28,900 but it is simply a fact that while the Inaugural Address 201 00:10:28,900 --> 00:10:33,600 contained within it very powerful lines from the 202 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,600 President about issues like comprehensive immigration reform 203 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:43,600 or the need to address climate change or gun violence, 204 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,734 all of those issues combined got less space, if you will, 205 00:10:46,734 --> 00:10:49,500 in the Inaugural Address than the economy and jobs. 206 00:10:49,500 --> 00:10:52,333 And that reflects the overall approach that 207 00:10:52,333 --> 00:10:53,333 the President takes. 208 00:10:53,333 --> 00:10:55,100 It also reflects the fact that when you talk about an issue 209 00:10:55,100 --> 00:10:56,600 like comprehensive immigration reform, 210 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,967 we're talking about an economic issue as businesses large and 211 00:11:00,967 --> 00:11:02,633 small will tell you. 212 00:11:02,633 --> 00:11:05,266 And that is why we've been seeing so much support for 213 00:11:05,266 --> 00:11:08,599 bipartisan efforts from the business community to push 214 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,133 forward comprehensive immigration reform. 215 00:11:11,133 --> 00:11:14,066 So there's no pivot here. 216 00:11:14,066 --> 00:11:14,567 The President's principal preoccupation since he ran for 217 00:11:14,567 --> 00:11:22,633 this office, beginning in 2007, has been what we need to do to 218 00:11:22,633 --> 00:11:25,567 make our economy work for the middle class, 219 00:11:25,567 --> 00:11:30,900 to help expand the middle class; to give average Americans the 220 00:11:30,900 --> 00:11:35,266 opportunities they need to help this economy grow and to help it 221 00:11:35,266 --> 00:11:37,934 be as strong and dominant in the 21st century as it 222 00:11:37,934 --> 00:11:39,467 was in the 20th. 223 00:11:39,467 --> 00:11:41,500 You'll hear that again in the State of the Union 224 00:11:41,500 --> 00:11:42,700 Address tomorrow night. 225 00:11:42,700 --> 00:11:45,333 The Press: And how do you answer the critics who say despite all 226 00:11:45,333 --> 00:11:49,165 of what the President has done, or what the White House has -- 227 00:11:49,166 --> 00:11:51,200 this administration has been pushing, 228 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,133 that unemployment still remains near 8%, 229 00:11:54,133 --> 00:11:56,166 and they see that as a failure? 230 00:11:56,166 --> 00:11:59,367 Mr. Carney: Well, I see it as a challenge, and I know the President does. 231 00:11:59,367 --> 00:12:01,333 You've always heard from the President, 232 00:12:01,333 --> 00:12:02,900 every time he addresses this issue, 233 00:12:02,900 --> 00:12:07,266 that while we have come far from the catastrophe that faced this 234 00:12:07,266 --> 00:12:12,165 country in January of 2009, we have come not nearly far enough. 235 00:12:12,166 --> 00:12:15,667 We have not reached where we need to be. 236 00:12:15,667 --> 00:12:17,233 The fact is that terrible recession, 237 00:12:17,233 --> 00:12:20,333 the Great Recession -- the worst economy that we've faced in our 238 00:12:20,333 --> 00:12:24,900 lifetimes -- took nearly 9 million jobs. 239 00:12:24,900 --> 00:12:26,033 That is an enormous hole. 240 00:12:26,033 --> 00:12:29,033 And because of the efforts of the President and this 241 00:12:29,033 --> 00:12:31,967 administration and Congress, we have -- 242 00:12:31,967 --> 00:12:34,467 and our businesses and the grit and determination of 243 00:12:34,467 --> 00:12:37,567 the American people -- we have dug ourselves 244 00:12:37,567 --> 00:12:40,400 out partway of that hole, but we're not there yet. 245 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,433 And we need to get even beyond digging ourselves out of the 246 00:12:43,433 --> 00:12:44,834 hole created by the Great Recession. 247 00:12:44,834 --> 00:12:46,400 We need to build beyond that. 248 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,800 We need a foundation for our economy that doesn't rely on 249 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:56,099 bubbles, that doesn't rely on insubstantial things, 250 00:12:56,100 --> 00:13:00,734 but is founded on good jobs with good industries and sound 251 00:13:00,734 --> 00:13:03,934 economic policy going forward in the 21st century. 252 00:13:03,934 --> 00:13:06,666 I would -- if the critics happen to be those who 253 00:13:06,667 --> 00:13:11,600 supported adamantly, fervently, with a gleam in their eye, 254 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,433 the policies that helped contribute to the worst 255 00:13:13,433 --> 00:13:15,600 economic crisis in our lifetimes, 256 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,734 I would ask them to examine that record and compare it to the 257 00:13:19,734 --> 00:13:22,767 record of job creation and economic growth that we have 258 00:13:22,767 --> 00:13:25,967 seen under this President since that terrible recession was 259 00:13:25,967 --> 00:13:29,333 ended and our economy and our economic fortunes were reversed. 260 00:13:29,333 --> 00:13:32,266 The Press: And quickly on the Pope -- when did the President find out that 261 00:13:32,266 --> 00:13:34,834 the Pope would be retiring? 262 00:13:34,834 --> 00:13:37,733 And anything more to add to that statement that was sent 263 00:13:37,734 --> 00:13:38,967 out earlier? 264 00:13:38,967 --> 00:13:40,033 Mr. Carney: I have nothing more to add. 265 00:13:40,033 --> 00:13:44,700 I think the President found out this morning, as we all did, 266 00:13:44,700 --> 00:13:48,500 about this decision, and that statement I think went out not 267 00:13:48,500 --> 00:13:50,934 long before I took the podium. 268 00:13:50,934 --> 00:13:51,867 The Press: Can I follow on that? 269 00:13:51,867 --> 00:13:52,433 Mr. Carney: Jon. 270 00:13:52,433 --> 00:13:53,033 The Press: Jay -- 271 00:13:53,033 --> 00:13:54,033 The Press: The President's statement mentioned -- 272 00:13:54,033 --> 00:13:55,100 Mr. Carney: Jon Karl from ABC. 273 00:13:55,100 --> 00:13:58,767 The Press: Jay, yes, can you just clarify for me very clearly -- 274 00:13:58,767 --> 00:14:02,066 is the President open to raising the eligibility 275 00:14:02,066 --> 00:14:03,233 age for Medicare? 276 00:14:03,233 --> 00:14:04,165 Mr. Carney: No. 277 00:14:04,166 --> 00:14:04,867 The Press: Absolutely not? 278 00:14:04,867 --> 00:14:06,800 Mr. Carney: The President has made clear that we don't believe that 279 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,199 that's the right policy to take. 280 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,033 The President has made clear in the proposals he put forward to 281 00:14:12,033 --> 00:14:15,233 John Boehner, that John Boehner walked away from late last year, 282 00:14:15,233 --> 00:14:18,233 that he's willing to make tough choices with regards 283 00:14:18,233 --> 00:14:19,599 to entitlement reform. 284 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:20,600 The Press: But not that choice? 285 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:21,467 Mr. Carney: That's correct. 286 00:14:21,467 --> 00:14:25,066 The Press: What about reducing the annual cost of living increases for 287 00:14:25,066 --> 00:14:26,433 Social Security recipients? 288 00:14:26,433 --> 00:14:29,433 Mr. Carney: Again, as part of a big deal, part of a comprehensive package 289 00:14:29,433 --> 00:14:33,367 that reduces our deficit and achieves that $4-trillion goal 290 00:14:33,367 --> 00:14:36,367 that was set out by so many people in and outside of 291 00:14:36,367 --> 00:14:39,367 government a number of years ago, 292 00:14:39,367 --> 00:14:41,533 he would consider that the hard choice that includes the 293 00:14:41,533 --> 00:14:44,700 so-called chain CPI, in fact, he put that on the table in 294 00:14:44,700 --> 00:14:48,633 his proposal, but not in a cherry-picked or piecemeal way. 295 00:14:48,633 --> 00:14:51,967 That's got to be part of a comprehensive package that 296 00:14:51,967 --> 00:14:55,233 asks that the burden be shared; that we don't, 297 00:14:55,233 --> 00:15:00,367 as some in Congress want, ask seniors to bear the burden of 298 00:15:00,367 --> 00:15:03,199 further deficit reduction alone, or middle-class families who are 299 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,000 struggling to send their kids to college, 300 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,367 or parents of children who are disabled who rely on programs 301 00:15:09,367 --> 00:15:10,599 to help them get through. 302 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,100 That's just not fair and it doesn't make economic sense -- 303 00:15:13,100 --> 00:15:15,500 because the choice would be, let's do that, 304 00:15:15,500 --> 00:15:18,600 but hold harmless the wealthy; let's do that, 305 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:23,900 put the burden on seniors alone, but not close loopholes in our 306 00:15:23,900 --> 00:15:28,100 tax code that are available to wealthy individuals or 307 00:15:28,100 --> 00:15:30,767 corporations, but not to average folks or small businesses. 308 00:15:30,767 --> 00:15:32,300 And that doesn't make any sense. 309 00:15:32,300 --> 00:15:34,032 How do you explain to a senior that we're doing this, 310 00:15:34,033 --> 00:15:37,500 asking you to sacrifice, but we're not saying that corporate 311 00:15:37,500 --> 00:15:41,734 jet owners should lose their special tax incentive; 312 00:15:41,734 --> 00:15:45,300 we're not saying to oil and gas companies who are making record 313 00:15:45,300 --> 00:15:50,467 profits that they should forego these huge subsidies that 314 00:15:50,467 --> 00:15:51,633 taxpayers provide? 315 00:15:51,633 --> 00:15:55,066 That's not fair and it's not good economics. 316 00:15:55,066 --> 00:15:56,633 The Press: But I just want to be clear what you said at the beginning 317 00:15:56,633 --> 00:15:58,533 of that answer, which is the President -- 318 00:15:58,533 --> 00:15:59,166 Mr. Carney: It is not our -- 319 00:15:59,166 --> 00:16:02,000 The Press: -- as part of an overall balanced approach, 320 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,433 he does not rule out effectively reducing benefits for Social 321 00:16:05,433 --> 00:16:06,333 Security recipients? 322 00:16:06,333 --> 00:16:10,666 Mr. Carney: He has put forward a technical change as part of a big deal -- 323 00:16:10,667 --> 00:16:11,867 and it's on the table -- that he put forward 324 00:16:11,867 --> 00:16:12,800 to the Speaker of the House. 325 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:13,934 The Speaker of the House, by the way, 326 00:16:13,934 --> 00:16:16,400 walked away from that deal even though it met the Republicans 327 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,667 halfway on revenues and halfway on spending cuts and included 328 00:16:20,667 --> 00:16:25,734 some tough decisions by the President on entitlements. 329 00:16:25,734 --> 00:16:27,266 The Speaker walked away from that deal. 330 00:16:27,266 --> 00:16:29,033 But as part of that deal, the technical change in the 331 00:16:29,033 --> 00:16:33,700 so-called CPI is possible in his own offer as part of a big deal. 332 00:16:33,700 --> 00:16:35,133 The Press: And just a quick question on the Pope. 333 00:16:35,133 --> 00:16:39,200 The statement that you put out a short while ago said that -- 334 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,667 from the President said, "I have appreciated our work together 335 00:16:42,667 --> 00:16:44,300 over these last four years. 336 00:16:44,300 --> 00:16:47,367 " What work together with the Pope over the last four years 337 00:16:47,367 --> 00:16:48,367 was he referring to? 338 00:16:48,367 --> 00:16:49,367 Mr. Carney: Well, look, I don't -- 339 00:16:49,367 --> 00:16:51,867 I think it is not a mystery to anybody who knows about the 340 00:16:51,867 --> 00:16:53,900 extraordinary good works that the Catholic Church does around 341 00:16:53,900 --> 00:16:58,033 the globe in so many ways. 342 00:16:58,033 --> 00:16:59,800 So I think that was part of a broader effort. 343 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,834 This administration, this country, 344 00:17:01,834 --> 00:17:07,000 this government works closely with the Catholic Church on 345 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,233 some of these issues, and I believe that's what he 346 00:17:09,233 --> 00:17:10,466 was talking about. 347 00:17:10,467 --> 00:17:13,734 The Press: Do we expect to hear from the President on cybersecurity in 348 00:17:13,733 --> 00:17:15,032 the State of the Union? 349 00:17:15,032 --> 00:17:19,666 Mr. Carney: I'm not going to preview sections, sentences, paragraphs, 350 00:17:19,666 --> 00:17:21,599 phrases from the speech. 351 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:23,532 You know that the President believes that cybersecurity 352 00:17:23,532 --> 00:17:25,399 is a very important issue. 353 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,900 It represents a huge challenge for our country. 354 00:17:27,900 --> 00:17:29,800 He has called on Congress to take action. 355 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,033 Unfortunately, Congress has thus far refused legislatively. 356 00:17:33,033 --> 00:17:35,065 But I don't have any previews to provide. 357 00:17:35,066 --> 00:17:37,700 The Press: So it would be reasonable to expect him to do so again? 358 00:17:37,700 --> 00:17:40,767 Mr. Carney: I leave it to you to judge what's reasonable, 359 00:17:40,767 --> 00:17:44,400 but I will simply say that this is an important issue. 360 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,767 The Press: Jay, on jobs -- in Dan's question about the pivot back, 361 00:17:48,767 --> 00:17:52,233 et cetera, you said it was two acts in the same play -- 362 00:17:52,233 --> 00:17:54,100 the Inaugural Address and the State of the Union. 363 00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:56,033 When you go back to the Inaugural Address the word 364 00:17:56,033 --> 00:17:59,233 "economy" was used once, the word "jobs" was used twice. 365 00:17:59,233 --> 00:18:02,166 So if there's this big emphasis on jobs and the economy in the 366 00:18:02,166 --> 00:18:04,367 State of the Union, how could they be two acts in 367 00:18:04,367 --> 00:18:05,066 the same play? 368 00:18:05,066 --> 00:18:06,033 Mr. Carney: I don't think you heard what I just said. 369 00:18:06,033 --> 00:18:09,533 If you actually look at the Inaugural in its totality there 370 00:18:09,533 --> 00:18:13,300 is as much on -- or more on the overall need to grow our economy 371 00:18:13,300 --> 00:18:17,265 and create jobs, diction aside, than on some of these 372 00:18:17,266 --> 00:18:18,600 other issues combined. 373 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,233 That does not take away from these other issues. 374 00:18:21,233 --> 00:18:23,734 You've seen the President act aggressively on comprehensive 375 00:18:23,734 --> 00:18:24,699 immigration reform. 376 00:18:24,700 --> 00:18:26,867 You've seen the President put forward a series of 377 00:18:26,867 --> 00:18:30,367 comprehensive proposals to reduce gun violence in this 378 00:18:30,367 --> 00:18:32,100 country in the recent weeks. 379 00:18:32,100 --> 00:18:34,466 These are important priorities of the President 380 00:18:34,467 --> 00:18:35,467 and of the nation. 381 00:18:35,467 --> 00:18:39,200 But what remains his number-one priority is what it has been 382 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,033 since he took office, which is to get this economy growing, 383 00:18:43,033 --> 00:18:44,899 get it creating jobs, strengthening the middle class, 384 00:18:44,900 --> 00:18:48,900 and expanding the middle class -- 385 00:18:48,900 --> 00:18:53,400 allowing those who seek and aspire to the middle class to 386 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,433 get there, giving them the tools to do that. 387 00:18:55,433 --> 00:18:57,333 The Press: But haven't we been seeing him in recent weeks -- and 388 00:18:57,333 --> 00:18:59,300 even after the State of the Union with some of his travel 389 00:18:59,300 --> 00:19:01,233 he's going to be going to places where he's talking about gun 390 00:19:01,233 --> 00:19:03,734 control, not talking about jobs and the economy. 391 00:19:03,734 --> 00:19:05,166 Mr. Carney: The President will be traveling in the wake of the State of the 392 00:19:05,166 --> 00:19:08,367 Union on three separate days talking about the economy and 393 00:19:08,367 --> 00:19:11,332 the need to create jobs at every location he goes to. 394 00:19:11,333 --> 00:19:11,767 The Press: Okay. 395 00:19:11,767 --> 00:19:14,000 Last thing -- Quinnipiac had a poll last week on the economy 396 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,200 that found 53% of the country still believes 397 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,500 we're in recession. 398 00:19:17,500 --> 00:19:19,967 What can he say then, tomorrow night, 399 00:19:19,967 --> 00:19:22,233 to sort of put those people who still feel like we're in 400 00:19:22,233 --> 00:19:24,332 a recession, even if technically we're not -- 401 00:19:24,333 --> 00:19:26,533 what can he say that's new, that's different, 402 00:19:26,533 --> 00:19:28,100 that can make them feel better? 403 00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:32,934 Mr. Carney: Well, I would suggest that he would address those Americans 404 00:19:32,934 --> 00:19:37,899 directly and talk about the need for Washington to take positive 405 00:19:37,900 --> 00:19:41,300 action to help the economy grow, to help it create jobs; 406 00:19:41,300 --> 00:19:46,966 the need for Washington to refrain from taking negative 407 00:19:46,967 --> 00:19:50,467 action by allowing, for example, the sequester to kick in, 408 00:19:50,467 --> 00:19:53,266 which would do direct harm to Americans, 409 00:19:53,266 --> 00:19:57,867 direct harm to the middle class, direct harm to our defense 410 00:19:57,867 --> 00:20:01,166 industries and national security interests. 411 00:20:01,166 --> 00:20:04,265 The President understands fully that we have work to 412 00:20:04,266 --> 00:20:05,633 do on the economy. 413 00:20:05,633 --> 00:20:07,500 We are not done, not even close. 414 00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:09,967 We need this economy to continue to grow. 415 00:20:09,967 --> 00:20:11,066 We need it to grow faster. 416 00:20:11,066 --> 00:20:12,767 We need it to create more jobs. 417 00:20:12,767 --> 00:20:15,567 We need more investments that help the key industries of the 418 00:20:15,567 --> 00:20:18,600 21st century take root here in the United States, 419 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,065 a process that we have seen. 420 00:20:20,066 --> 00:20:23,500 We need more companies to do -- to continue the trend that we've 421 00:20:23,500 --> 00:20:26,333 seen already in the last several years of repatriating 422 00:20:26,333 --> 00:20:29,667 their industries and jobs here in the United States. 423 00:20:29,667 --> 00:20:33,734 We need more expansion of our manufacturing sector. 424 00:20:33,734 --> 00:20:36,533 A remarkable turnaround in our manufacturing sector -- 425 00:20:36,533 --> 00:20:40,533 over half a million jobs in the last several years created in 426 00:20:40,533 --> 00:20:43,899 manufacturing after steep, steep decline. 427 00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:48,100 These are positive trends but they are not irreversible and 428 00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:49,567 they are not completed. 429 00:20:49,567 --> 00:20:52,433 So the President will talk to the American people tonight 430 00:20:52,433 --> 00:20:56,200 about the things we need to do together to have the economy 431 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,300 create more jobs, have it continue to grow, 432 00:20:58,300 --> 00:21:06,667 have it create a foundation that allows for steady, 433 00:21:06,667 --> 00:21:08,766 further expansion in the 21st century, 434 00:21:08,767 --> 00:21:12,667 well beyond our time here -- both ours and 435 00:21:12,667 --> 00:21:16,600 this administration, and even yours in your seats -- 436 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,100 so that we're making the right choices now for our children 437 00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:22,833 and grandchildren and great-grandchildren. 438 00:21:22,834 --> 00:21:23,934 Peter. 439 00:21:23,934 --> 00:21:26,867 The Press: Jay, a question about House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi 440 00:21:26,867 --> 00:21:29,300 on one of the Sunday broadcasts speaking specifically about the 441 00:21:29,300 --> 00:21:32,734 risk of cuts, referring to the sequester on the future of the 442 00:21:32,734 --> 00:21:34,567 United States -- she was talking about education 443 00:21:34,567 --> 00:21:35,934 and scientific research. 444 00:21:35,934 --> 00:21:39,667 She said, "It is almost a false wrong to say we have 445 00:21:39,667 --> 00:21:40,766 a spending problem." 446 00:21:40,767 --> 00:21:43,567 Does the President think we have a spending problem? 447 00:21:43,567 --> 00:21:46,166 Mr. Carney: You know, I feel like this is a little bit of déjà vu here. 448 00:21:46,166 --> 00:21:48,399 Of course, the President believes that we have a 449 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,900 spending problem that is specifically driven by -- 450 00:21:51,900 --> 00:21:54,200 and I think every economist worth this -- 451 00:21:54,200 --> 00:22:01,467 whose insights into this area are worth the paper on which his 452 00:22:01,467 --> 00:22:04,133 or her Ph.D. is printed, would tell you that the 453 00:22:04,133 --> 00:22:06,800 principal driver when it comes to spending of our 454 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,700 deficits and debt is health care spending. 455 00:22:10,700 --> 00:22:12,100 And that's just a fact. 456 00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:15,632 What is also a fact is that we have reduced nondefense 457 00:22:15,633 --> 00:22:19,233 discretionary spending to its lowest level as a percentage 458 00:22:19,233 --> 00:22:22,233 of our economy since Dwight Eisenhower was President. 459 00:22:22,233 --> 00:22:25,100 And I think only some of you here were covering Eisenhower. 460 00:22:25,100 --> 00:22:26,966 So that is a long time. 461 00:22:26,967 --> 00:22:28,100 (laughter) 462 00:22:28,100 --> 00:22:29,667 The Press: (inaudible) 463 00:22:29,667 --> 00:22:37,433 Mr. Carney: That doesn't meant that we can't -- (laughter) -- so maybe Tom? 464 00:22:37,433 --> 00:22:38,333 No? 465 00:22:38,333 --> 00:22:39,567 The Press: Not me. 466 00:22:39,567 --> 00:22:43,266 Mr. Carney: No, there are people who have spent a long time covering and 467 00:22:43,266 --> 00:22:44,934 know this stuff back and forward, 468 00:22:44,934 --> 00:22:47,533 and they know this fact that nondefense discretionary 469 00:22:47,533 --> 00:22:51,567 spending has not been this low for generations. 470 00:22:51,567 --> 00:22:54,033 That doesn't mean that there aren't programs that should be 471 00:22:54,033 --> 00:22:56,632 eliminated -- and this President has been aggressive in finding 472 00:22:56,633 --> 00:23:00,867 them and taking action -- or that programs cannot be 473 00:23:00,867 --> 00:23:02,800 reformed in a way that save money. 474 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,466 It doesn't mean that we can't reform government 475 00:23:04,467 --> 00:23:05,467 in a way that saves money. 476 00:23:05,467 --> 00:23:08,000 In fact, the President has put forward to Congress exactly that 477 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,333 in a proposal that would consolidate agencies and 478 00:23:11,333 --> 00:23:13,567 save taxpayers money. 479 00:23:13,567 --> 00:23:15,400 But the fact of the matter is we need to reduce our 480 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,166 health care costs. 481 00:23:17,300 --> 00:23:19,567 Funnily enough, recognizing that fact, 482 00:23:19,567 --> 00:23:21,934 the President took action to do just that through the Affordable 483 00:23:21,934 --> 00:23:25,734 Care Act, which has been scored by the CBO to significantly 484 00:23:25,734 --> 00:23:28,433 reduce our health care costs going forward. 485 00:23:28,433 --> 00:23:29,433 We need to do more. 486 00:23:29,433 --> 00:23:32,033 The President has put forward entitlement reforms that would 487 00:23:32,033 --> 00:23:34,100 further reduce our health care costs. 488 00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:38,867 What he doesn't believe is that we need to simply shift our 489 00:23:38,867 --> 00:23:41,166 health care costs onto seniors -- 490 00:23:41,166 --> 00:23:45,934 basically say we've got a problem that is now yours, 491 00:23:45,934 --> 00:23:49,867 Mr. 75-year-old American, or Mrs. 75-year-old American. 492 00:23:49,867 --> 00:23:53,033 He believes that we ought to reduce these costs and 493 00:23:53,033 --> 00:23:54,833 not shift them onto seniors. 494 00:23:54,834 --> 00:23:57,967 The Press: And then, finally, on Sunday, there was a LGBT rally, 495 00:23:57,967 --> 00:23:59,467 some groups protesting out front. 496 00:23:59,467 --> 00:24:03,533 They felt that the President did not properly address their 497 00:24:03,533 --> 00:24:05,734 issues, as they believe he had promised in the course of his 498 00:24:05,734 --> 00:24:07,000 first term. 499 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,333 Given Congress's apparent willingness to move on the 500 00:24:09,333 --> 00:24:12,533 issue of ending discrimination against same-sex couples in the 501 00:24:12,533 --> 00:24:14,800 workplace, would the President issue an executive order 502 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,332 prohibiting federal contractors -- 503 00:24:17,333 --> 00:24:19,233 Mr. Carney: I appreciate the question and I've gotten it periodically. 504 00:24:19,233 --> 00:24:20,367 We believe, the President believes, 505 00:24:20,367 --> 00:24:23,066 that we ought to move forward with congressional comprehensive 506 00:24:23,066 --> 00:24:27,066 action on this issue, and we will continue to press 507 00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:28,266 Congress to do that. 508 00:24:28,266 --> 00:24:29,633 The Press: But it appears clear that that hasn't happened. 509 00:24:29,633 --> 00:24:30,800 It hasn't happened to this point. 510 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,100 Would he be willing to pursue executive action? 511 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:35,567 Mr. Carney: What has happened dramatically is a series of changes when it 512 00:24:35,567 --> 00:24:39,433 comes to LGBT rights that reflect not just, 513 00:24:39,433 --> 00:24:43,266 but importantly, this President's action and 514 00:24:43,266 --> 00:24:45,967 influence and the pressure he has placed on -- 515 00:24:45,967 --> 00:24:47,867 and importance he's placed on these issues, 516 00:24:47,867 --> 00:24:53,000 but also a welcome change in the views held around the country on 517 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,000 these issues. 518 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,233 And we're going to keep pressing for action from Congress on this 519 00:24:57,233 --> 00:24:58,966 very important issue. 520 00:24:58,967 --> 00:25:02,266 The Press: Jay, is the Hagel nomination in trouble? 521 00:25:02,266 --> 00:25:05,967 Mr. Carney: We believe firmly that Senator Hagel will be confirmed as the 522 00:25:05,967 --> 00:25:07,367 next Secretary of Defense. 523 00:25:07,367 --> 00:25:10,667 Since his hearing, we have seen an increase in the number of 524 00:25:10,667 --> 00:25:13,265 senators who have come out and said that they 525 00:25:13,266 --> 00:25:14,734 will vote to confirm him. 526 00:25:14,734 --> 00:25:17,600 That includes Republicans as well as Democrats. 527 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,300 And we look forward to his hearing and to 528 00:25:20,300 --> 00:25:21,367 a vote on the floor. 529 00:25:21,367 --> 00:25:24,200 The Press: What do you make of the threats from Lindsey Graham, 530 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,633 Inhofe and other Republicans? 531 00:25:27,633 --> 00:25:29,367 Mr. Carney: The threats to do what? 532 00:25:29,367 --> 00:25:33,200 The Press: The threats to filibuster his nomination, 533 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,533 to put it on hold until they get more information on Benghazi? 534 00:25:36,533 --> 00:25:39,367 Mr. Carney: Well, I would point you to what Senator McCain said, 535 00:25:39,367 --> 00:25:43,066 who obviously has been very vocal in his views on a number 536 00:25:43,066 --> 00:25:46,800 of these issues where he said, "We have never filibustered a 537 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,066 Cabinet appointee and I do not believe we should filibuster his 538 00:25:50,066 --> 00:25:52,500 nomination" -- speaking of Senator Hagel. 539 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:54,967 Look, the bottom line is we have 66,000 540 00:25:54,967 --> 00:25:57,333 troops serving in Afghanistan and Iraq -- 541 00:25:57,333 --> 00:26:01,166 sorry, in Afghanistan rather, and significant issues to deal 542 00:26:01,166 --> 00:26:02,667 with internationally. 543 00:26:02,667 --> 00:26:05,199 It is clear that Senator Hagel is uniquely qualified to be 544 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:10,166 Secretary of Defense, and it is clear that he has at 545 00:26:10,166 --> 00:26:12,433 least a substantial -- a majority of senators who 546 00:26:12,433 --> 00:26:14,166 would vote to confirm him. 547 00:26:14,166 --> 00:26:17,399 We need to move forward with this nomination and make sure we 548 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,700 have a Secretary of Defense, which is a key post when it 549 00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:22,433 comes to our national security interests. 550 00:26:22,433 --> 00:26:24,467 Margaret and then Jon. 551 00:26:24,467 --> 00:26:25,867 The Press: Two quick ones on foreign policy. 552 00:26:25,867 --> 00:26:30,433 To follow on this one, I believe what Senator Graham has 553 00:26:30,433 --> 00:26:34,033 indicated is that he wants to try to block both Hagel and 554 00:26:34,033 --> 00:26:37,934 Brennan until the White House answers questions about 555 00:26:37,934 --> 00:26:40,834 President Obama's direct involvement in Benghazi, 556 00:26:40,834 --> 00:26:44,567 including whether he called Libya to try to get the rescue 557 00:26:44,567 --> 00:26:48,333 crew moving and stuff about his conversations with the 558 00:26:48,333 --> 00:26:50,567 Joint Chiefs or the Secretary of Defense on 559 00:26:50,567 --> 00:26:51,467 the day of the attacks. 560 00:26:51,467 --> 00:26:54,000 Are those specific questions, questions that the White House 561 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,800 is going to answer publicly or -- 562 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,200 Mr. Carney: We have answered these questions. 563 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,900 The President found out about the attack in Benghazi in a 564 00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:04,166 meeting with his Secretary of Defense and Chairman of the 565 00:27:04,166 --> 00:27:06,265 Joint Chiefs from his National Security Advisor. 566 00:27:06,266 --> 00:27:09,767 He immediately ordered those two leaders to take every action 567 00:27:09,767 --> 00:27:13,233 necessary to try to position forces in a way that could 568 00:27:13,233 --> 00:27:17,700 assist in Benghazi and also potentially take action if 569 00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:20,500 necessary elsewhere because of all that was unfolding 570 00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:21,900 around the region. 571 00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:26,000 He was regularly updated and kept apprised of events in 572 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,300 Benghazi and in the region throughout that evening and 573 00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:30,966 into the night. 574 00:27:30,967 --> 00:27:32,233 Those are the facts. 575 00:27:32,233 --> 00:27:36,265 What is unfortunate here is the continuing attempt to politicize 576 00:27:36,266 --> 00:27:39,700 an issue -- in this case, through nominees that 577 00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:42,533 themselves had nothing to do with Benghazi -- 578 00:27:42,533 --> 00:27:47,033 and to do so in a way that only does harm to our national 579 00:27:47,033 --> 00:27:49,399 security interests. 580 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,133 Senator Hagel, Mr. Brennan -- they need to be confirmed. 581 00:27:52,133 --> 00:27:55,367 They're highly-qualified candidates for their posts, 582 00:27:55,367 --> 00:27:58,867 and we call on the Senate to act quickly to do just that. 583 00:27:58,867 --> 00:28:02,667 The Press: Also, ahead of the President's trip to Israel there is now a 584 00:28:02,667 --> 00:28:07,934 renewed push by people who feel that Jonathan Pollard's sentence 585 00:28:07,934 --> 00:28:10,567 should be commuted and to ask the President to do that. 586 00:28:10,567 --> 00:28:12,867 Is that something that the White House is now or will 587 00:28:12,867 --> 00:28:15,399 be considering before the trip to Israel? 588 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,066 Mr. Carney: No, our position has not changed. 589 00:28:17,066 --> 00:28:18,767 Could I just say on the matter of Benghazi, 590 00:28:18,767 --> 00:28:23,567 let's just not forget about this: First, they demanded -- 591 00:28:23,567 --> 00:28:25,400 the critics, Senator Graham and others -- 592 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,500 that Secretary Clinton testify, and she did for five hours. 593 00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:31,967 Then Republicans demanded that Secretary Panetta testify before 594 00:28:31,967 --> 00:28:34,233 they could move on confirmation of a successor. 595 00:28:34,233 --> 00:28:36,700 He did for many hours, as you know. 596 00:28:36,700 --> 00:28:39,000 Now they are moving the goal posts yet again. 597 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,367 Senior administration officials participated in 20 member and 598 00:28:42,367 --> 00:28:45,166 staff briefings on this issue, 10 congressional hearings, 599 00:28:45,166 --> 00:28:48,300 6 witness interviews, and they responded to over 40 600 00:28:48,300 --> 00:28:51,700 Benghazi-related inquiries from Congress, producing 10,000 601 00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:53,400 pages of documents. 602 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,367 The agencies have permitted members to view classified video 603 00:28:56,367 --> 00:28:58,367 footage from the night of the attacks and provided, 604 00:28:58,367 --> 00:29:01,000 again, as I said, over 10, 000 pages of documents. 605 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,367 And, fundamentally, they have focused on, as a rule, 606 00:29:05,367 --> 00:29:10,500 on an appearance on the Sunday shows in which a 607 00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:14,900 top administration official conveyed information that was, 608 00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:20,567 as she made clear, limited and based on our early understanding 609 00:29:20,567 --> 00:29:23,567 of what had happened, and could and would be subject to change, 610 00:29:23,567 --> 00:29:27,033 some of which turned out to be not precisely accurate. 611 00:29:27,033 --> 00:29:30,734 That is not a reason to hold up the nominee for Secretary of 612 00:29:30,734 --> 00:29:33,699 Defense or the nominee for CIA Director. 613 00:29:33,700 --> 00:29:34,400 The Press: Jay? 614 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,100 Mr. Carney: Yes, sir. 615 00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:38,199 The Press: To follow up on my colleague Ed Henry's question, 616 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,600 not only will Americans be watching tomorrow night, 617 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,667 but the world will be watching. 618 00:29:41,667 --> 00:29:44,667 What comforting message can the President send the global 619 00:29:44,667 --> 00:29:46,934 financial community that, in fact, 620 00:29:46,934 --> 00:29:49,200 we will get through this particular period and the 621 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,033 U.S. will not go back into recession, 622 00:29:51,033 --> 00:29:53,332 taking the whole world with it? 623 00:29:53,333 --> 00:29:55,567 Mr. Carney: Well, I didn't realize that was a follow-up on Ed. 624 00:29:55,567 --> 00:29:57,200 (laughter) 625 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,266 I know he's concerned about international viewers. 626 00:30:00,266 --> 00:30:01,600 The Press: He dresses -- 627 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,466 (laughter) 628 00:30:03,467 --> 00:30:04,867 Mr. Carney: That's very good. 629 00:30:04,867 --> 00:30:06,367 He could be British, the way he -- 630 00:30:06,367 --> 00:30:09,500 (laughter) 631 00:30:09,500 --> 00:30:10,767 I meant that as a compliment. 632 00:30:10,767 --> 00:30:14,467 (scattered chatter and laughter) 633 00:30:14,467 --> 00:30:19,967 You'll hear from the President a very clear call for the need to 634 00:30:19,967 --> 00:30:23,567 take action to help our economy grow and help it create jobs. 635 00:30:23,567 --> 00:30:25,467 You will hear from him, a call -- 636 00:30:25,467 --> 00:30:27,934 as you have heard in the past, recently from him -- 637 00:30:27,934 --> 00:30:33,266 on Congress not to shoot the economy in the foot 638 00:30:33,266 --> 00:30:37,467 unnecessarily, to allow the sequester to kick in when it 639 00:30:37,467 --> 00:30:40,867 is wholly unnecessary to do that, when there is easy -- 640 00:30:40,867 --> 00:30:44,100 let's scratch easy -- but simple action that can be 641 00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:48,466 taken for which there is a template in the recent past. 642 00:30:48,467 --> 00:30:51,834 And Congress ought to do that to give itself the time and space 643 00:30:51,834 --> 00:30:56,734 necessary to move forward on a broader budgetary process that 644 00:30:56,734 --> 00:31:00,934 produces balanced deficit reform that completely eliminates the 645 00:31:00,934 --> 00:31:05,133 sequester for good; the kind of action that the President 646 00:31:05,133 --> 00:31:08,700 supports, the kind of action that he has provided guidance 647 00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:11,100 for in detail -- far more detail than we've seen from Republicans 648 00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:15,033 when it comes to broad-based, significant deficit reduction 649 00:31:15,033 --> 00:31:16,033 in a balanced way. 650 00:31:16,033 --> 00:31:22,899 So I think he is absolutely concerned that Congress do the 651 00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:29,066 right thing here, because it would be a very bad thing if 652 00:31:29,066 --> 00:31:31,834 Congress did not because of the impact on the economy, 653 00:31:31,834 --> 00:31:35,367 because of the impact on American workers and 654 00:31:35,367 --> 00:31:36,767 the middle class. 655 00:31:36,767 --> 00:31:40,300 And I'm sure that that is a concern shared globally because 656 00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:43,767 of the importance that the American economy plays in 657 00:31:43,767 --> 00:31:45,066 the global economy. 658 00:31:45,066 --> 00:31:45,600 The Press: Thanks, Jay. 659 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,500 Mr. Carney: All right, guys. 660 00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:48,200 I know you got a -- 661 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,100 The Press: Third row? 662 00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:51,033 Mr. Carney: Okay, third row. 663 00:31:51,033 --> 00:31:52,699 April, last one. 664 00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:53,834 The Press: Thank you. 665 00:31:53,834 --> 00:31:57,934 On the issue of jobs, you're talking about the expansion of 666 00:31:57,934 --> 00:32:01,066 the middle class for employment, things of that nature. 667 00:32:01,066 --> 00:32:04,600 What about sectors that have not seen the light of day, 668 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,867 in some instances the black unemployment rate, 669 00:32:06,867 --> 00:32:10,466 the Hispanic unemployment rate, and also maybe even the teen 670 00:32:10,467 --> 00:32:11,233 unemployment rate? 671 00:32:11,233 --> 00:32:13,466 Where is he going to weigh in on that? 672 00:32:13,467 --> 00:32:17,533 Mr. Carney: Well, I'm not going to preview specific proposals or sections 673 00:32:17,533 --> 00:32:18,233 of the speech. 674 00:32:18,233 --> 00:32:22,399 This is obviously an important component of the broader 675 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,133 challenge here, which is that we need to further 676 00:32:24,133 --> 00:32:26,133 reduce unemployment. 677 00:32:26,133 --> 00:32:30,367 There are areas of unemployment that pose specific challenges, 678 00:32:30,367 --> 00:32:32,332 and we need to take action to address those. 679 00:32:32,333 --> 00:32:36,800 But I'm not going to preview presidential proposals from 680 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,433 today, or the future, today here at the podium. 681 00:32:39,433 --> 00:32:41,200 The Press: The best of times and the worst of times -- 682 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,367 normally the State of the Union, the tone of the State of the 683 00:32:43,367 --> 00:32:44,966 Union is optimistic. 684 00:32:44,967 --> 00:32:47,266 It's always the State of the Union is strong pretty much. 685 00:32:47,266 --> 00:32:51,000 Where is the state of our union as we're talking about jobs and 686 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:51,600 the economy? 687 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,667 Mr. Carney: Well, it's for the President to address that specifically in the 688 00:32:55,667 --> 00:32:59,265 forum that is afforded to Presidents annually at Congress. 689 00:32:59,266 --> 00:33:01,900 I would simply make the point that I've made before: We have 690 00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:06,033 come far since the depths of the worst recession in our 691 00:33:06,033 --> 00:33:08,734 lifetimes, but we still have a ways to go and we 692 00:33:08,734 --> 00:33:10,265 need to act accordingly. 693 00:33:10,266 --> 00:33:11,934 We need to make the right choices, 694 00:33:11,934 --> 00:33:16,899 the right investments together with Congress to move our 695 00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:20,734 economy forward to help the middle class be more secure 696 00:33:20,734 --> 00:33:21,600 and expand. 697 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:22,367 Got to run. Thanks. 698 00:33:22,367 --> 00:33:23,133 The Press: Will you brief tomorrow? 699 00:33:23,133 --> 00:33:24,934 Will there be any backgrounders on the address? 700 00:33:24,934 --> 00:33:26,332 Mr. Carney: We'll have more for you on that.