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1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:04,000 Mr. Earnest: Good afternoon, 2 00:00:04,070 --> 00:00:05,140 everybody. 3 00:00:05,138 --> 00:00:06,138 Nice to see you all. 4 00:00:06,139 --> 00:00:08,339 I hope you had a pleasant weekend. 5 00:00:08,341 --> 00:00:12,851 As all of you know, we had an unexpectedly busy 6 00:00:12,846 --> 00:00:15,316 Saturday afternoon here with the President's trip 7 00:00:15,315 --> 00:00:17,185 to Walter Reed. 8 00:00:17,183 --> 00:00:19,323 Unfortunately, it was after a lid 9 00:00:19,319 --> 00:00:22,759 had been called, so the print pooler 10 00:00:22,756 --> 00:00:24,396 was not able to accompany. 11 00:00:24,391 --> 00:00:26,391 But our friends at Bloomberg and your friends 12 00:00:26,393 --> 00:00:28,733 at Bloomberg stepped in to file a pool report. 13 00:00:28,728 --> 00:00:31,068 And, Mike, we're very grateful for that service. 14 00:00:31,064 --> 00:00:33,064 That was something that was of significant 15 00:00:33,066 --> 00:00:35,066 assistance not just to your colleagues in the 16 00:00:35,068 --> 00:00:37,068 press corps but here at the White House. 17 00:00:37,070 --> 00:00:38,070 So thank you for that. 18 00:00:38,071 --> 00:00:40,071 And as a small token of gratitude, 19 00:00:40,073 --> 00:00:42,073 I'd like to invite you to ask the first question today. 20 00:00:42,075 --> 00:00:43,415 The Press: Ooooh! (laughter) 21 00:00:43,410 --> 00:00:44,740 Mr. Earnest: I'm trying 22 00:00:44,744 --> 00:00:45,944 to do something nice. 23 00:00:45,945 --> 00:00:48,045 Trying to do something nice. 24 00:00:48,047 --> 00:00:49,047 Do something nice for us, 25 00:00:49,048 --> 00:00:50,218 we're happy to try to repay. 26 00:00:50,216 --> 00:00:53,916 The Press: Let me ask 27 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,490 you, obviously the key question today -- 28 00:00:57,490 --> 00:00:59,790 we're expecting the CIA torture report 29 00:00:59,793 --> 00:01:01,493 to come out this week. 30 00:01:01,494 --> 00:01:03,494 How well prepared does the President 31 00:01:03,496 --> 00:01:06,596 think U. S. embassies and foreign installations 32 00:01:06,599 --> 00:01:09,469 are for the potential reaction? 33 00:01:09,469 --> 00:01:11,169 Mr. Earnest: Well, Mike, 34 00:01:11,171 --> 00:01:13,171 we have heard from the committee 35 00:01:13,173 --> 00:01:16,573 that they do intend to release the report tomorrow. 36 00:01:16,576 --> 00:01:18,576 The timing of the release of the report is something 37 00:01:18,578 --> 00:01:20,918 that has always been up to the committee and this is 38 00:01:20,914 --> 00:01:23,914 the decision that they have made. 39 00:01:23,917 --> 00:01:27,517 The administration has been for months preparing 40 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:28,860 for the release of this report. 41 00:01:28,855 --> 00:01:33,095 There are some indications that the release 42 00:01:33,092 --> 00:01:38,762 of the report could lead to a greater risk 43 00:01:38,765 --> 00:01:43,335 that is posed to U. S. facilities and individuals 44 00:01:43,336 --> 00:01:46,106 all around the world, so the administration has taken 45 00:01:46,105 --> 00:01:49,145 the prudent steps to ensure that the proper security precautions 46 00:01:49,142 --> 00:01:53,782 are in place at U. S. facilities around the globe. 47 00:01:53,780 --> 00:01:57,020 But that said -- and this is the last, key part -- 48 00:01:57,016 --> 00:01:59,256 that said, the administration 49 00:01:59,252 --> 00:02:03,452 strongly supports the release of this declassified summary 50 00:02:03,456 --> 00:02:04,456 of the report. 51 00:02:04,457 --> 00:02:07,527 The President, on his first or second day 52 00:02:07,527 --> 00:02:12,367 in office, took the steps using executive action 53 00:02:12,365 --> 00:02:16,635 to put an end to the tactics that are described 54 00:02:16,636 --> 00:02:20,106 in the report and the President believes that, 55 00:02:20,106 --> 00:02:23,146 on principle, it's important to release that report 56 00:02:23,142 --> 00:02:25,142 so that people around the world and people 57 00:02:25,144 --> 00:02:28,084 here at home understand exactly what transpired. 58 00:02:28,081 --> 00:02:30,521 There obviously are going to be some limits about 59 00:02:30,517 --> 00:02:32,717 what can be said given the classified nature 60 00:02:32,719 --> 00:02:35,919 of the program, but because of the scrupulous work 61 00:02:35,922 --> 00:02:38,822 of the committee and the administration 62 00:02:38,825 --> 00:02:40,795 and the intelligence community, in particular, 63 00:02:40,793 --> 00:02:43,333 we've declassified as much of that report as we can. 64 00:02:43,329 --> 00:02:45,529 And we want to be sure that we can release that report, 65 00:02:45,532 --> 00:02:47,572 be transparent about it, and be clear 66 00:02:47,567 --> 00:02:50,167 about what American values are, and be clear about 67 00:02:50,169 --> 00:02:52,169 the fact that the administration believes, 68 00:02:52,171 --> 00:02:54,171 in a way that's consistent with American values, 69 00:02:54,173 --> 00:02:56,313 that something like this should never happen again. 70 00:02:56,309 --> 00:02:57,309 The Press: Sort of 71 00:02:57,310 --> 00:03:02,150 on a tangentially related subject of human rights, 72 00:03:02,148 --> 00:03:04,418 Attorney General Holder, as you well know, 73 00:03:04,417 --> 00:03:07,057 today put out a new report on federal guidelines 74 00:03:07,053 --> 00:03:10,523 on racial profiling, and he discussed it this morning. 75 00:03:10,523 --> 00:03:13,623 Does the President feel like these guidelines 76 00:03:13,626 --> 00:03:16,296 on racial profiling should also be followed 77 00:03:16,296 --> 00:03:18,766 ultimately by state and local police agencies? 78 00:03:18,765 --> 00:03:21,635 And if he does feel that it's a good idea, 79 00:03:21,634 --> 00:03:25,804 what steps does he want to take to forward that goal? 80 00:03:25,805 --> 00:03:27,405 Mr. Earnest: Well, Mike, 81 00:03:27,407 --> 00:03:29,407 you're right that the Department of Justice 82 00:03:29,409 --> 00:03:35,379 did put out some new rules today that will enhance 83 00:03:35,381 --> 00:03:37,581 the protections of -- civil rights protections 84 00:03:37,584 --> 00:03:40,584 above and beyond what is otherwise required by the 85 00:03:40,587 --> 00:03:43,987 United States Constitution and by existing federal law. 86 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:45,590 These standards will apply 87 00:03:45,592 --> 00:03:47,792 to federal law enforcement officers. 88 00:03:47,794 --> 00:03:49,794 And we certainly would welcome a decision 89 00:03:49,796 --> 00:03:52,766 that's made by -- any decision that's made by local law 90 00:03:52,765 --> 00:03:56,035 enforcement to apply these policies at the state 91 00:03:56,035 --> 00:03:57,005 and local level as well. 92 00:03:57,003 --> 00:03:59,603 We would certainly welcome that kind of development. 93 00:03:59,606 --> 00:04:02,406 This is a policy that the Attorney General 94 00:04:02,408 --> 00:04:05,708 has been working on for quite some time now. 95 00:04:05,712 --> 00:04:10,152 And this is something that was done in close consultation 96 00:04:10,149 --> 00:04:13,249 with attorneys at the Department of Justice 97 00:04:13,252 --> 00:04:16,052 as well as law enforcement officials 98 00:04:16,055 --> 00:04:18,195 all across the federal government. 99 00:04:18,191 --> 00:04:21,661 And it does reflect a significant enhancement 100 00:04:21,661 --> 00:04:24,201 of protections for all Americans in a way 101 00:04:24,197 --> 00:04:28,597 that will not have any impact on the ability 102 00:04:28,601 --> 00:04:30,601 of these federal law enforcement officers 103 00:04:30,603 --> 00:04:32,603 to do the important work that's necessary 104 00:04:32,605 --> 00:04:35,105 to keep the American people safe. 105 00:04:35,108 --> 00:04:37,108 Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming. 106 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:38,110 Julie. 107 00:04:38,111 --> 00:04:39,111 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 108 00:04:39,112 --> 00:04:40,112 Back to the torture report. 109 00:04:40,113 --> 00:04:42,113 The White House put out a statement on Friday 110 00:04:42,115 --> 00:04:44,255 that said that Secretary Kerry had notified 111 00:04:44,250 --> 00:04:47,020 the White House that he would call Senator Feinstein 112 00:04:47,020 --> 00:04:49,520 to share information that he thought would be pertinent 113 00:04:49,522 --> 00:04:52,362 to the timing of the release of the report. 114 00:04:52,358 --> 00:04:54,898 If the President wants the report released this week, 115 00:04:54,894 --> 00:04:56,894 why didn't he tell Secretary Kerry 116 00:04:56,896 --> 00:04:58,596 not to make that phone call? 117 00:04:58,598 --> 00:04:59,828 Mr. Earnest: Well, Julie, 118 00:04:59,832 --> 00:05:02,932 Senator Kerry -- and I will read from the readout 119 00:05:02,935 --> 00:05:05,105 that the State Department put out -- 120 00:05:05,104 --> 00:05:07,274 made clear that he strongly supports -- 121 00:05:07,273 --> 00:05:09,443 as the President does -- strongly supports 122 00:05:09,442 --> 00:05:11,442 the release of this declassified version 123 00:05:11,444 --> 00:05:14,684 of the summary of the report for the same values-based 124 00:05:14,681 --> 00:05:16,751 reasons that the President does, which is we should 125 00:05:16,749 --> 00:05:20,289 be as transparent as we possibly can about 126 00:05:20,286 --> 00:05:24,186 what transpired to allow the American people 127 00:05:24,190 --> 00:05:27,990 and people around the world to examine what occurred, 128 00:05:27,994 --> 00:05:31,134 and to be just as clear and transparent about 129 00:05:31,130 --> 00:05:32,470 what American values are. 130 00:05:32,465 --> 00:05:35,765 The President and the Secretary share the view 131 00:05:35,768 --> 00:05:37,268 that the release of the report 132 00:05:37,270 --> 00:05:39,140 is important for that purpose. 133 00:05:39,138 --> 00:05:40,138 The Press: So then 134 00:05:40,139 --> 00:05:42,139 what was the purpose of the phone call as it related 135 00:05:42,141 --> 00:05:44,141 to timing of the release of the report? 136 00:05:44,143 --> 00:05:45,143 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, 137 00:05:45,144 --> 00:05:49,044 for details of the actual phone call that transpired -- 138 00:05:49,048 --> 00:05:51,218 The Press: Secretary Kerry 139 00:05:51,217 --> 00:05:53,217 called the President to say that he was going 140 00:05:53,219 --> 00:05:55,219 to make the phone call, so clearly the White House 141 00:05:55,221 --> 00:05:57,221 has information about what the purpose 142 00:05:57,223 --> 00:05:58,223 of the phone call was. 143 00:05:58,224 --> 00:05:59,224 Mr. Earnest: Well, 144 00:05:59,225 --> 00:06:01,225 I will allow Secretary Kerry to explain exactly why 145 00:06:01,227 --> 00:06:03,227 he made the phone call, and that's included in the report -- 146 00:06:03,229 --> 00:06:05,229 or in the readout that the State Department 147 00:06:05,231 --> 00:06:06,231 issued over the weekend. 148 00:06:06,232 --> 00:06:08,232 There are two unmistakable principles here, though, 149 00:06:08,234 --> 00:06:11,734 which is that the administration has taken 150 00:06:11,738 --> 00:06:14,538 the necessary precautions because of the potential 151 00:06:14,540 --> 00:06:16,540 that exists that the release of the report 152 00:06:16,542 --> 00:06:22,712 could have an impact on the security situation 153 00:06:22,715 --> 00:06:25,315 at U.S. facilities around the globe. 154 00:06:25,318 --> 00:06:28,058 But at the same time, we've taken the necessary 155 00:06:28,054 --> 00:06:31,224 precautions and done what is prudent to ensure 156 00:06:31,224 --> 00:06:34,364 that our facilities and our personnel are safe. 157 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,660 But we also want to make sure that this very 158 00:06:36,662 --> 00:06:39,862 important information is communicated because 159 00:06:39,866 --> 00:06:42,866 of the need to be clear about our values and to be clear 160 00:06:42,869 --> 00:06:44,869 about the fact that what transpired 161 00:06:44,871 --> 00:06:46,671 should not occur again. 162 00:06:46,672 --> 00:06:49,372 The Press: On the unsuccessful 163 00:06:49,375 --> 00:06:51,275 raid in Yemen this weekend, 164 00:06:51,277 --> 00:06:53,917 the head of an aid group that was working to secure 165 00:06:53,913 --> 00:06:56,213 the release of Pierre Korkie, the South African 166 00:06:56,215 --> 00:06:58,215 who was being held alongside of Somers, 167 00:06:58,217 --> 00:07:00,617 says that it kept the Yemeni government 168 00:07:00,620 --> 00:07:02,960 apprised of its negotiation with AQAP, 169 00:07:02,955 --> 00:07:05,655 and that two weeks ago, there was an exchange 170 00:07:05,658 --> 00:07:07,898 of information about those negotiations 171 00:07:07,894 --> 00:07:10,594 in which American officials were present. 172 00:07:10,596 --> 00:07:13,096 I know that some officials have said that the U. S. 173 00:07:13,099 --> 00:07:15,439 was not aware that there was an imminent release. 174 00:07:15,434 --> 00:07:17,804 Can you say what the U.S. was aware of 175 00:07:17,804 --> 00:07:20,144 as it relates to negotiations for Pierre Korkie's release? 176 00:07:20,139 --> 00:07:22,139 Mr. Earnest: What I can tell you 177 00:07:22,141 --> 00:07:24,141 is that the United States had no information 178 00:07:24,143 --> 00:07:26,143 that there were private negotiations 179 00:07:26,145 --> 00:07:28,145 underway for the release of Mr. Korkie. 180 00:07:28,147 --> 00:07:30,147 The Press: You didn't know there 181 00:07:30,149 --> 00:07:32,119 were any negotiations in general for his release underway? 182 00:07:32,118 --> 00:07:33,118 Mr. Earnest: That is correct. 183 00:07:33,119 --> 00:07:35,119 That is the information that I have. 184 00:07:35,121 --> 00:07:37,121 That said, we obviously mourn the death 185 00:07:37,123 --> 00:07:39,123 of Mr. Korkie in the same way that we mourn 186 00:07:39,125 --> 00:07:40,125 the death of Mr. Somers. 187 00:07:40,126 --> 00:07:42,126 Today, the thoughts and prayers of everybody here 188 00:07:42,128 --> 00:07:44,128 at the White House are with the Somers family, 189 00:07:44,130 --> 00:07:46,130 in particular, for the terrible loss 190 00:07:46,132 --> 00:07:47,132 of their son. 191 00:07:47,133 --> 00:07:49,933 He was an innocent individual 192 00:07:49,936 --> 00:07:54,376 who was ruthlessly murdered by AQAP militants. 193 00:07:54,373 --> 00:07:57,273 And the President, over the course of 194 00:07:57,276 --> 00:08:00,876 the last several weeks, ordered two separate special 195 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,320 operations raids to try to secure his rescue, 196 00:08:04,317 --> 00:08:08,717 and unfortunately, while those raids were carried out 197 00:08:08,721 --> 00:08:11,461 flawlessly even under very significant 198 00:08:11,457 --> 00:08:16,897 time constraints, Mr. Somers was not successfully rescued. 199 00:08:16,896 --> 00:08:19,996 But it should be a clear and unmistakable signal 200 00:08:19,999 --> 00:08:22,269 to the militants in Yemen and to militants 201 00:08:22,268 --> 00:08:26,468 around the world that the United States and President Obama 202 00:08:26,472 --> 00:08:29,512 will not tolerate the unjustified detention 203 00:08:29,508 --> 00:08:32,708 and hostage-taking of American citizens, and we will expend 204 00:08:32,712 --> 00:08:35,012 significant resources to secure 205 00:08:35,014 --> 00:08:37,014 the release of those individuals. 206 00:08:37,016 --> 00:08:37,986 The Press: Just to go back 207 00:08:37,984 --> 00:08:40,724 to sort of the U.S. information about Pierre Korkie. 208 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,820 Again, this aid group says that there was an exchange 209 00:08:44,824 --> 00:08:46,824 of information about the private negotiations that 210 00:08:46,826 --> 00:08:48,826 happened two weeks ago in Yemen; American officials 211 00:08:48,828 --> 00:08:50,928 were present as well as Yemeni government officials. 212 00:08:50,930 --> 00:08:53,030 Are you saying that that did not happen? 213 00:08:53,032 --> 00:08:54,032 Mr. Earnest: Well, 214 00:08:54,033 --> 00:08:56,733 all I can tell you, Julie, is that the United States 215 00:08:56,736 --> 00:08:59,006 did not have information about the private negotiations 216 00:08:59,005 --> 00:09:01,005 that this aid group says were underway 217 00:09:01,007 --> 00:09:03,007 to secure the release of Mr. Korkie. 218 00:09:03,009 --> 00:09:04,009 The Press: And just finally, 219 00:09:04,010 --> 00:09:06,010 officials said last month that the President 220 00:09:06,012 --> 00:09:08,012 had ordered a review of U.S. policy 221 00:09:08,014 --> 00:09:09,014 towards the hostages. 222 00:09:09,015 --> 00:09:11,115 Do you have any update on that review? 223 00:09:11,117 --> 00:09:13,157 Mr. Earnest: I don't have an update 224 00:09:13,152 --> 00:09:14,352 on the current status. 225 00:09:14,353 --> 00:09:16,523 This was part of an interagency review. 226 00:09:16,522 --> 00:09:18,522 There are a lot of agencies, as you would 227 00:09:18,524 --> 00:09:21,364 expect, who are involved in working to try to 228 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,730 secure the release of American hostages held 229 00:09:23,729 --> 00:09:24,829 around the world. 230 00:09:24,830 --> 00:09:26,830 There obviously is a significant intelligence 231 00:09:26,832 --> 00:09:28,972 component; there's a law enforcement component; 232 00:09:28,968 --> 00:09:30,708 there's a military component; 233 00:09:30,703 --> 00:09:32,443 there's a diplomatic component. 234 00:09:32,438 --> 00:09:37,308 So each of these agencies has some work that's involved. 235 00:09:37,310 --> 00:09:41,150 And the President asked for a review to try to see 236 00:09:41,147 --> 00:09:43,147 if there were some steps that we could take to 237 00:09:43,149 --> 00:09:45,149 better integrate those efforts to make them 238 00:09:45,151 --> 00:09:47,151 more efficient and more effective, and also 239 00:09:47,153 --> 00:09:51,893 to ease the burden -- the significant burden 240 00:09:51,891 --> 00:09:54,291 that is on families who are in this terrible, 241 00:09:54,293 --> 00:09:56,933 even unthinkable, situation of having a loved one 242 00:09:56,929 --> 00:09:58,069 that's being held hostage. 243 00:09:58,064 --> 00:09:59,964 So that review is underway. 244 00:09:59,966 --> 00:10:02,306 I don't have an update at this point, but I would 245 00:10:02,301 --> 00:10:05,501 anticipate that when we've concluded that review, 246 00:10:05,504 --> 00:10:08,074 we'll have more to say about it. 247 00:10:08,074 --> 00:10:09,074 Steve. 248 00:10:09,075 --> 00:10:10,075 The Press: Josh, 249 00:10:10,076 --> 00:10:12,516 some family members of Luke Somers are reportedly 250 00:10:12,511 --> 00:10:14,481 complaining about what happened. 251 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,520 Are there any second thoughts here about 252 00:10:16,515 --> 00:10:19,355 the wisdom of carrying out these sort of rescue attempts, 253 00:10:19,352 --> 00:10:22,492 and going forward, will you do more of these? 254 00:10:22,488 --> 00:10:24,888 Mr. Earnest: The simple answer to that, 255 00:10:24,890 --> 00:10:28,130 Steve, is, no, the President does not at all regret 256 00:10:28,127 --> 00:10:32,797 ordering this mission to try to rescue Mr. Somers. 257 00:10:32,798 --> 00:10:34,798 There are a few reasons for that. 258 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,840 The first is, as we saw from the video, 259 00:10:37,837 --> 00:10:41,537 it is apparent that these militants were planning 260 00:10:41,540 --> 00:10:45,850 to kill Mr. Somers on Saturday, and that's why 261 00:10:45,845 --> 00:10:49,245 this raid was executed, on very short notice, 262 00:10:49,248 --> 00:10:51,388 on Friday night -- that there was 263 00:10:51,384 --> 00:10:53,384 a very limited window for action. 264 00:10:53,386 --> 00:10:58,726 And that is a testament, more than anything else, 265 00:10:58,724 --> 00:11:02,064 I think, to the bravery and skill of our men and women 266 00:11:02,061 --> 00:11:04,731 in uniform, who, like I said, for the second time 267 00:11:04,730 --> 00:11:06,730 in just a few weeks here, put their lives 268 00:11:06,732 --> 00:11:08,872 on the line in a very dangerous country 269 00:11:08,868 --> 00:11:11,508 and a very dangerous mission, to try to secure 270 00:11:11,504 --> 00:11:13,044 the safe rescue of Mr. Somers. 271 00:11:13,039 --> 00:11:16,579 And while our hearts are filled with sorrow 272 00:11:16,575 --> 00:11:20,745 for the Somers family, we also are feeling a lot of gratitude 273 00:11:20,746 --> 00:11:23,116 toward those men and women in uniform who risked 274 00:11:23,115 --> 00:11:26,315 their lived to try to secure his release. 275 00:11:26,318 --> 00:11:31,128 And as I mentioned earlier in response to Julie's question, 276 00:11:31,123 --> 00:11:34,763 this should be taken by militants around the world 277 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,360 as a clear sign of this President's resolve 278 00:11:38,364 --> 00:11:41,934 to do everything possible to rescue Americans 279 00:11:41,934 --> 00:11:44,104 who are being held hostage anywhere around the globe. 280 00:11:44,103 --> 00:11:48,373 And militants or extremist organizations that decide 281 00:11:48,374 --> 00:11:51,544 to take the risk of taking an American hostage 282 00:11:51,544 --> 00:11:52,544 are put on notice today. 283 00:11:52,545 --> 00:11:55,085 The Press: And just one other thing. 284 00:11:55,081 --> 00:11:58,981 Reports about Ron Klain leaving I think next March -- 285 00:11:58,984 --> 00:12:01,824 does this mean that you feel like you have 286 00:12:01,821 --> 00:12:03,821 a pretty good handle on the Ebola crisis, 287 00:12:03,823 --> 00:12:05,863 that he's now able to leave? 288 00:12:05,858 --> 00:12:07,498 Mr. Earnest: Well, 289 00:12:07,493 --> 00:12:11,633 Mr. Klain is planning to leave because he originally 290 00:12:11,630 --> 00:12:14,530 came on board in a status that's described as 291 00:12:14,533 --> 00:12:16,833 a Special Government Employee. 292 00:12:16,836 --> 00:12:18,836 That's what allows individuals to come 293 00:12:18,838 --> 00:12:20,838 and serve the government for 130 days. 294 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,180 And Mr. Klain's 130 days will be up 295 00:12:23,175 --> 00:12:25,915 at the beginning of March, and at that time, he has said 296 00:12:25,911 --> 00:12:28,751 that he'll return to the private sector. 297 00:12:28,747 --> 00:12:31,087 There is no doubt we've made substantial progress 298 00:12:31,083 --> 00:12:35,423 against Ebola since Mr. Klain came on board. 299 00:12:35,421 --> 00:12:37,521 We've made substantial progress in leveraging 300 00:12:37,523 --> 00:12:41,993 U.S. in West Africa to try to stop this Ebola outbreak 301 00:12:41,994 --> 00:12:43,394 in its tracks. 302 00:12:43,395 --> 00:12:45,395 Most of those efforts have been concentrated 303 00:12:45,397 --> 00:12:48,367 in Liberia, and the statistics there indicate 304 00:12:48,367 --> 00:12:50,567 that we've made substantial progress. 305 00:12:50,569 --> 00:12:52,569 There is still more important work that needs 306 00:12:52,571 --> 00:12:59,581 to be done and we still haven't achieved our goal 307 00:12:59,578 --> 00:13:02,148 of stopping this outbreak in its tracks, but we've 308 00:13:02,148 --> 00:13:03,248 made substantial progress. 309 00:13:03,249 --> 00:13:05,519 And the statistics about the spread of this disease 310 00:13:05,518 --> 00:13:07,858 in that country bear that out. 311 00:13:07,853 --> 00:13:10,593 We've also made important progress in enhancing 312 00:13:10,589 --> 00:13:14,159 the readiness of medical facilities here at home. 313 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,000 And this was included in the factsheet that we put out 314 00:13:17,997 --> 00:13:19,227 last week in association with 315 00:13:19,231 --> 00:13:22,201 the President's visit to the NIH that when Mr. Klain 316 00:13:22,201 --> 00:13:24,801 came on board there were only three medical 317 00:13:24,803 --> 00:13:26,903 facilities in the United States, I believe, 318 00:13:26,906 --> 00:13:31,646 that were prepped to treat an Ebola patient safely. 319 00:13:31,644 --> 00:13:35,284 That number is now up to 35 hospitals nationwide. 320 00:13:35,281 --> 00:13:38,181 And again, that is a testament to the efforts 321 00:13:38,184 --> 00:13:41,224 that Mr. Klain has undertaken to integrate 322 00:13:41,220 --> 00:13:43,620 the response from a variety of agencies to 323 00:13:43,622 --> 00:13:45,622 ensure that we're focused on these goals. 324 00:13:45,624 --> 00:13:47,594 We've made substantial progress thanks 325 00:13:47,593 --> 00:13:49,593 to his leadership, and we're certainly appreciative 326 00:13:49,595 --> 00:13:50,595 of all that he's done. 327 00:13:50,596 --> 00:13:51,596 The Press: And when he leaves, 328 00:13:51,597 --> 00:13:53,597 will there be another Ebola coordinator? 329 00:13:53,599 --> 00:13:54,599 Mr. Earnest: Well, 330 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,600 that's something that we'll have to evaluate next year. 331 00:13:56,602 --> 00:13:58,602 The reason that he was brought on board, 332 00:13:58,604 --> 00:14:00,744 as we mentioned, is that the President believed 333 00:14:00,739 --> 00:14:03,639 that it was important for us to have one person 334 00:14:03,642 --> 00:14:08,112 who could dedicate full-time -- and believe me, Mr. Klain 335 00:14:08,113 --> 00:14:10,983 has worked more than full-time in the time that he's been here 336 00:14:10,983 --> 00:14:13,883 -- but that could dedicate 100 percent of their energy 337 00:14:13,886 --> 00:14:16,726 to focusing on this specific challenge. 338 00:14:16,722 --> 00:14:20,022 There's no question that we've made substantial progress 339 00:14:20,025 --> 00:14:25,995 in putting in place processes to integrate our response. 340 00:14:25,998 --> 00:14:28,438 There now is a more routinized process 341 00:14:28,434 --> 00:14:30,434 for dealing with individuals, for example, 342 00:14:30,436 --> 00:14:32,436 who have recently traveled in West Africa 343 00:14:32,438 --> 00:14:34,438 and are attempting to enter the country. 344 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,480 We've now got that down to a pretty solid routine. 345 00:14:37,476 --> 00:14:39,476 There is a larger footprint that's on the ground 346 00:14:39,478 --> 00:14:41,478 now in West Africa both in terms of 347 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,220 Department of Defense personnel, but also USAID and others. 348 00:14:44,216 --> 00:14:47,916 They're also working together more smoothly. 349 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,960 So the question that we'll have to answer is -- 350 00:14:52,958 --> 00:14:55,698 even if we have not accomplished the goal 351 00:14:55,694 --> 00:14:57,694 of stopping this Ebola outbreak in its tracks 352 00:14:57,696 --> 00:14:59,696 in West Africa -- and I do not anticipate 353 00:14:59,698 --> 00:15:01,698 that we will have reached that goal -- the question 354 00:15:01,700 --> 00:15:05,200 will be, will it require one individual to dedicate 355 00:15:05,204 --> 00:15:07,644 100 percent of their time to focusing on this 356 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,610 to continue the progress towards that goal. 357 00:15:10,609 --> 00:15:12,609 It's still an open question now about whether 358 00:15:12,611 --> 00:15:14,781 that will be required, and something I anticipate 359 00:15:14,780 --> 00:15:18,520 we'll discuss in the run-up to early March next year. 360 00:15:18,517 --> 00:15:19,517 Jon. 361 00:15:19,518 --> 00:15:20,518 The Press: Coming back 362 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:25,429 to this Kerry -- John Kerry's phone call to Dianne Feinstein. 363 00:15:25,424 --> 00:15:28,664 He was clearly expressing concerns about the timing, 364 00:15:28,661 --> 00:15:31,661 as we heard from the State Department, 365 00:15:31,664 --> 00:15:34,234 of the release of this report. 366 00:15:34,233 --> 00:15:37,803 Did the President or does the President share 367 00:15:37,803 --> 00:15:40,403 Kerry's concerns about the timing of the release 368 00:15:40,406 --> 00:15:41,406 of this report? 369 00:15:41,407 --> 00:15:42,777 Mr. Earnest: We've been candid 370 00:15:42,775 --> 00:15:44,745 from the beginning, Jon, that we believe 371 00:15:44,743 --> 00:15:47,543 it's the committee's decision to determine the appropriate timing 372 00:15:47,546 --> 00:15:48,816 for the release of this report. 373 00:15:48,814 --> 00:15:50,814 And that's why the administration has been 374 00:15:50,816 --> 00:15:53,586 at work for months now to prepare for this report's 375 00:15:53,585 --> 00:15:56,485 eventual release; that there have been concerns 376 00:15:56,488 --> 00:15:58,488 that have been raised that have been validated 377 00:15:58,490 --> 00:16:02,030 by the intelligence community that indicate that 378 00:16:02,027 --> 00:16:07,197 the release of the report may have an impact 379 00:16:07,199 --> 00:16:09,739 on the security situation at U.S. facilities 380 00:16:09,735 --> 00:16:11,705 around the world, and that's why this 381 00:16:11,704 --> 00:16:13,704 administration has been working for months to plan 382 00:16:13,706 --> 00:16:17,646 for this day and to ensure that the prudent steps 383 00:16:17,643 --> 00:16:21,083 are taken to protect American personnel 384 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,080 and American facilities around the globe. 385 00:16:23,082 --> 00:16:24,082 The Press: And then 386 00:16:24,083 --> 00:16:28,523 on the central question here, which is did these tactics, 387 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,090 these so-called enhanced interrogation techniques 388 00:16:31,090 --> 00:16:35,860 produce any actionable intelligence -- the 389 00:16:35,861 --> 00:16:41,271 committee believes they didn't; the CIA believes they did. 390 00:16:41,266 --> 00:16:44,506 Where does the White House stand on that question? 391 00:16:44,503 --> 00:16:47,373 Does the White House believe that these tactics 392 00:16:47,373 --> 00:16:49,373 produced any actionable intelligence? 393 00:16:49,375 --> 00:16:54,215 Mr. Earnest: Well, this is something that -- the 394 00:16:54,213 --> 00:16:56,913 President felt it was important for us, 395 00:16:56,915 --> 00:17:00,385 for the American people to have a clear, unvarnished look, 396 00:17:00,386 --> 00:17:02,456 or at least as clear a look as possible into this 397 00:17:02,454 --> 00:17:06,354 classified program about what actually transpired. 398 00:17:06,358 --> 00:17:08,358 And that's why the President believes that 399 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:10,600 the release of this report is so important. 400 00:17:10,596 --> 00:17:12,396 I haven't read the report. 401 00:17:12,398 --> 00:17:15,168 It's unclear whether or not the committee has 402 00:17:15,167 --> 00:17:17,637 actually taken up the question that you are 403 00:17:17,636 --> 00:17:19,706 raising, but certainly, they'll have something 404 00:17:19,705 --> 00:17:20,705 important to say about it. 405 00:17:20,706 --> 00:17:22,706 The Press: But I understand, obviously, 406 00:17:22,708 --> 00:17:25,608 that the President was very much opposed to these 407 00:17:25,611 --> 00:17:28,551 tactics, thought they were morally reprehensible, not 408 00:17:28,547 --> 00:17:30,817 something the United States should be doing. 409 00:17:30,816 --> 00:17:33,356 But what does the White House believe 410 00:17:33,352 --> 00:17:34,352 on that question? 411 00:17:34,353 --> 00:17:36,353 Did they produce actionable intelligence? 412 00:17:36,355 --> 00:17:37,855 It's just a yes or a no. 413 00:17:37,856 --> 00:17:40,356 Did he believe they actually -- you can think 414 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,759 the tactics were not -- shouldn't have been done, 415 00:17:42,761 --> 00:17:45,661 but did they -- were they effective in any way? 416 00:17:45,664 --> 00:17:48,234 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jon, as you pointed out, there are 417 00:17:48,233 --> 00:17:50,773 a variety of views across the federal government about -- 418 00:17:50,769 --> 00:17:51,769 The Press: Yes, 419 00:17:51,770 --> 00:17:52,770 so what's the President's view? 420 00:17:52,771 --> 00:17:54,771 Mr. Earnest: -- the effectiveness. 421 00:17:54,773 --> 00:17:56,773 Well, there may be an opportunity for you 422 00:17:56,775 --> 00:17:57,775 ask him that question. 423 00:17:57,776 --> 00:17:59,776 What I will tell you is that the President 424 00:17:59,778 --> 00:18:02,948 believes that the use of those tactics 425 00:18:02,948 --> 00:18:05,418 was unwarranted, that they were inconsistent 426 00:18:05,417 --> 00:18:07,857 with our values and did not make us safer. 427 00:18:07,853 --> 00:18:09,853 That, of course, is a different question than 428 00:18:09,855 --> 00:18:11,855 the one that you're asking about -- 429 00:18:11,857 --> 00:18:13,457 The Press: Right -- 430 00:18:13,459 --> 00:18:15,959 Mr. Earnest: Let me finish this -- 431 00:18:15,961 --> 00:18:19,361 did they unearth useful national intelligence information. 432 00:18:19,364 --> 00:18:21,804 And I think the President would say -- and this 433 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,100 is clear from the President's decision to outlaw these 434 00:18:24,102 --> 00:18:27,372 techniques -- that even if they did, that it 435 00:18:27,372 --> 00:18:29,372 wasn't worth it, and it did not enhance 436 00:18:29,374 --> 00:18:31,344 the national security of the United States of America. 437 00:18:31,343 --> 00:18:32,343 The Press: But let me 438 00:18:32,344 --> 00:18:35,514 try just one last very specific one that you've certainly talked 439 00:18:35,514 --> 00:18:39,284 a lot about over the last few years. 440 00:18:39,284 --> 00:18:45,694 Osama bin Laden -- were these techniques crucial 441 00:18:45,691 --> 00:18:48,661 to getting the intelligence that led to 442 00:18:48,660 --> 00:18:52,760 the killing of Osama bin Laden? 443 00:18:52,764 --> 00:18:54,934 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jon, 444 00:18:54,933 --> 00:18:57,673 this has been litigated quite extensively, and it -- 445 00:18:57,669 --> 00:18:58,669 The Press: You should 446 00:18:58,670 --> 00:19:01,740 have an answer right there at the tip of your -- 447 00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:04,110 Mr. Earnest: Well, these are, of course, 448 00:19:04,109 --> 00:19:06,549 complicated issues and they're worthy of discussion. 449 00:19:06,545 --> 00:19:08,545 And this was something that was talked about 450 00:19:08,547 --> 00:19:11,217 quite a bit in the days immediately following the 451 00:19:11,216 --> 00:19:13,216 successful raid against Osama bin Laden. 452 00:19:13,218 --> 00:19:17,558 These were issues that were raised and discussed 453 00:19:17,556 --> 00:19:20,056 extensively in conjunction with the release 454 00:19:20,058 --> 00:19:21,998 of "Zero Dark Thirty" I believe 455 00:19:21,994 --> 00:19:23,994 a little over a year ago now. 456 00:19:25,898 --> 00:19:27,898 And there were a variety of views about 457 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:31,200 whether or not information that was gleaned 458 00:19:31,203 --> 00:19:36,773 from enhanced interrogation techniques led to 459 00:19:36,775 --> 00:19:40,515 the eventual capture of Osama bin Laden. 460 00:19:40,512 --> 00:19:45,522 And what we have been clear about and what 461 00:19:45,517 --> 00:19:50,757 the President has been clear about is that he does not 462 00:19:50,756 --> 00:19:55,966 believe that the use of these enhanced 463 00:19:55,961 --> 00:19:58,801 interrogation techniques is justified. 464 00:19:58,797 --> 00:20:00,797 He does not believe that that makes us safer. 465 00:20:00,799 --> 00:20:01,799 He does not believe that it's 466 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,800 in the core national security interest. 467 00:20:03,802 --> 00:20:05,802 And so the point is, you're asking a very 468 00:20:05,804 --> 00:20:07,804 difficult question and there are a variety 469 00:20:07,806 --> 00:20:09,806 of views on it, but it's the President's view that 470 00:20:09,808 --> 00:20:12,978 wherever you come down on this equation of, yes, 471 00:20:12,978 --> 00:20:15,478 it yielded information that was helpful, yes, 472 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,250 it yielded information that was crucial, or no, it 473 00:20:18,250 --> 00:20:20,990 didn't yield any helpful information, the President 474 00:20:20,986 --> 00:20:22,986 believes that regardless of what the answer to that 475 00:20:22,988 --> 00:20:27,088 question is, that the use of these techniques 476 00:20:27,092 --> 00:20:30,492 was not worth it because of the harm that was done 477 00:20:30,495 --> 00:20:35,565 to our national values and the sense of 478 00:20:35,567 --> 00:20:37,667 what it is that we believe in as Americans. 479 00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:38,669 The Press: Is there 480 00:20:38,670 --> 00:20:41,070 any daylight between the President and the CIA 481 00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:43,073 on the question of whether or not 482 00:20:43,075 --> 00:20:45,275 it yielded any critical intelligence? 483 00:20:45,277 --> 00:20:46,477 Mr. Earnest: Well, 484 00:20:46,478 --> 00:20:48,718 I think it is apparent from at least some 485 00:20:48,714 --> 00:20:52,614 of the anonymous sources that you and others have at the CIA 486 00:20:52,618 --> 00:20:53,788 that there are people who have 487 00:20:53,785 --> 00:20:56,155 a variety of opinions on this. 488 00:20:56,154 --> 00:20:57,494 But with all due respect -- 489 00:20:57,489 --> 00:20:59,459 The Press: How about the CIA Director? 490 00:20:59,458 --> 00:21:01,458 Mr. Earnest: -- with all due respect 491 00:21:01,460 --> 00:21:03,460 to those, I think that the views of the Commander-in-Chief 492 00:21:03,462 --> 00:21:05,462 are the ones that are most important. 493 00:21:05,464 --> 00:21:06,464 The Press: Okay. 494 00:21:06,465 --> 00:21:08,465 And you include the CIA Director on that? 495 00:21:08,467 --> 00:21:10,467 Because I'm not talking about anonymous sources. 496 00:21:10,469 --> 00:21:12,469 I'm saying, is there any daylight between 497 00:21:12,471 --> 00:21:14,471 the President and his CIA Director? 498 00:21:14,473 --> 00:21:15,473 Mr. Earnest: You'd have to ask 499 00:21:15,474 --> 00:21:17,474 Director Brennan exactly what he believes about that. 500 00:21:17,476 --> 00:21:19,476 And I think he has been asked this question 501 00:21:19,478 --> 00:21:21,478 in the context of congressional testimony. 502 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,480 I don't have that directly in front of me, but I know 503 00:21:23,482 --> 00:21:25,482 that there was an extensive discussion 504 00:21:25,484 --> 00:21:27,484 of this issue even during his confirmation hearings. 505 00:21:27,486 --> 00:21:28,486 Michelle. 506 00:21:28,487 --> 00:21:29,487 The Press: I'm not sure 507 00:21:29,488 --> 00:21:31,458 if I got your answer from your response to Jon 508 00:21:31,456 --> 00:21:33,456 when he asked about the President having 509 00:21:33,458 --> 00:21:34,458 some concerns about the timing. 510 00:21:34,459 --> 00:21:37,029 I know that he strongly supports the release 511 00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:40,769 of the report, but was he or is he concerned about 512 00:21:40,766 --> 00:21:41,766 releasing it now? 513 00:21:41,767 --> 00:21:47,107 Mr. Earnest: Well, Michelle, 514 00:21:47,105 --> 00:21:50,205 there have been concerns that have been expressed 515 00:21:50,208 --> 00:21:53,178 by members of the intelligence community and others 516 00:21:53,178 --> 00:21:55,278 about the risk that the release of the report 517 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,320 may pose to U.S. facilities and personnel around the globe. 518 00:21:59,317 --> 00:22:02,087 That is why the administration, for months now, 519 00:22:02,087 --> 00:22:04,087 has been preparing for this day-- 520 00:22:04,089 --> 00:22:06,089 the day that the report is eventually released. 521 00:22:06,091 --> 00:22:08,961 The Press: Does the President 522 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:09,960 share those concerns? 523 00:22:09,961 --> 00:22:10,961 Mr. Earnest: Yes, 524 00:22:10,962 --> 00:22:12,962 the President -- well, let me say it this way. 525 00:22:12,964 --> 00:22:14,964 The President wants to make sure that we're doing 526 00:22:14,966 --> 00:22:17,206 what is necessary to protect our men and women 527 00:22:17,202 --> 00:22:18,232 who are serving this country 528 00:22:18,236 --> 00:22:21,936 either in the military or in the diplomatic corps. 529 00:22:21,940 --> 00:22:23,940 And he believes that we should take all the steps 530 00:22:23,942 --> 00:22:25,942 that are necessary to do exactly that. 531 00:22:25,944 --> 00:22:29,884 And that's why we didn't just start planning 532 00:22:29,881 --> 00:22:31,881 to figure out what was necessary to safeguard 533 00:22:31,883 --> 00:22:33,983 these facilities, but rather this is something 534 00:22:33,985 --> 00:22:37,925 that we've been focused on for a number of months now. 535 00:22:37,923 --> 00:22:39,923 The other context I guess -- the sort of the 536 00:22:39,925 --> 00:22:44,395 implicit question -- or sort of an implicit point 537 00:22:44,396 --> 00:22:47,166 in your question is, well, when would be a good time 538 00:22:47,165 --> 00:22:48,265 to release this report? 539 00:22:48,266 --> 00:22:52,136 And it's difficult to imagine one, particularly 540 00:22:52,137 --> 00:22:55,507 because of the painful details that will be included. 541 00:22:55,507 --> 00:22:58,677 But again, the President believes that 542 00:22:58,677 --> 00:23:00,677 it is important for us to be as transparent 543 00:23:00,679 --> 00:23:04,019 as we possibly can be about what exactly transpired 544 00:23:04,015 --> 00:23:06,285 so we can just be clear to the American public and to people 545 00:23:06,284 --> 00:23:08,284 around the world that something like this 546 00:23:08,286 --> 00:23:09,686 should not happen again. 547 00:23:09,688 --> 00:23:10,688 The Press: Okay. 548 00:23:10,689 --> 00:23:12,789 And in the Yemen rescue attempt, we heard criticism, 549 00:23:12,791 --> 00:23:15,191 obviously, from the South African's family. 550 00:23:15,193 --> 00:23:17,493 It was maybe more interesting to hear 551 00:23:17,496 --> 00:23:20,296 some of that criticism from the American's family 552 00:23:20,298 --> 00:23:22,538 and saying that they wished that 553 00:23:22,534 --> 00:23:24,534 they could have been consulted on this. 554 00:23:24,536 --> 00:23:26,536 And we know that the review is underway 555 00:23:26,538 --> 00:23:29,508 of how families are involved in that process, but is some kind 556 00:23:29,508 --> 00:23:32,808 of coordination or family interaction ahead 557 00:23:32,811 --> 00:23:36,751 of a raid even possible moving forward? 558 00:23:36,748 --> 00:23:40,118 Mr. Earnest: Well, 559 00:23:40,118 --> 00:23:42,588 part of the review that the President has ordered 560 00:23:42,587 --> 00:23:46,927 does involve the communication between 561 00:23:46,925 --> 00:23:49,025 the federal government and the families 562 00:23:49,027 --> 00:23:51,097 that are in this terrible situation. 563 00:23:51,096 --> 00:23:53,066 And as I mentioned earlier, our thoughts 564 00:23:53,064 --> 00:23:55,064 and prayers are with the Somers family. 565 00:23:55,066 --> 00:23:57,066 It's difficult to comprehend the level 566 00:23:57,068 --> 00:23:59,068 of grief they must be feeling today. 567 00:23:59,070 --> 00:24:04,040 But what I can tell you is that, particularly this 568 00:24:04,042 --> 00:24:09,582 raid that occurred on Friday took place in a 569 00:24:09,581 --> 00:24:13,221 very short time frame, that the amount of time 570 00:24:13,218 --> 00:24:16,358 that elapsed between the intelligence being 571 00:24:16,354 --> 00:24:19,594 developed, the concept of operations being 572 00:24:19,591 --> 00:24:22,761 put together and approved by the Secretary of Defense, 573 00:24:22,761 --> 00:24:26,661 and then its approval by the President was very short. 574 00:24:26,665 --> 00:24:30,165 And the reason for that is that AQAP had made this 575 00:24:30,168 --> 00:24:32,568 public promise to carry out an execution 576 00:24:32,571 --> 00:24:36,011 of Mr. Somers on Saturday, which meant that the only 577 00:24:36,007 --> 00:24:38,007 practical time in which this raid could 578 00:24:38,009 --> 00:24:40,509 be carried out would have been Friday night. 579 00:24:40,512 --> 00:24:44,512 And that's why the President acted quickly. 580 00:24:44,516 --> 00:24:46,516 That's why our special operators acted quickly. 581 00:24:46,518 --> 00:24:48,518 That's why we worked quickly with the Yemen 582 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,960 government to ensure that this was well-coordinated. 583 00:24:50,956 --> 00:24:52,386 And that's what was necessary 584 00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:56,700 in order to try to save his life. 585 00:24:56,695 --> 00:24:59,395 The Press: So I mean, 586 00:24:59,397 --> 00:25:01,397 I know we don't want to talk about hypotheticals, 587 00:25:01,399 --> 00:25:05,099 but if there was, say, in this case a longer time frame 588 00:25:05,103 --> 00:25:08,873 to work with, is consultation with the families something 589 00:25:08,874 --> 00:25:10,004 that would be considered? 590 00:25:10,008 --> 00:25:12,008 Mr. Earnest: That's difficult to say, 591 00:25:12,010 --> 00:25:14,350 Michelle, because each situation is different 592 00:25:14,346 --> 00:25:17,746 and each situation is unique. 593 00:25:17,749 --> 00:25:19,749 There obviously are significant operational 594 00:25:19,751 --> 00:25:21,751 security concerns when you're carrying out a raid 595 00:25:21,753 --> 00:25:23,893 like this, that the element of surprise 596 00:25:23,889 --> 00:25:26,029 is critically important not just for the success 597 00:25:26,024 --> 00:25:27,624 of the operation but also 598 00:25:27,626 --> 00:25:29,626 for the safety of the operators. 599 00:25:29,628 --> 00:25:31,628 So the amount of information that 600 00:25:31,630 --> 00:25:34,570 can be shared with anybody is very limited. 601 00:25:34,566 --> 00:25:38,236 I certainly -- that would have an impact on 602 00:25:38,236 --> 00:25:41,176 what is communicated to the family, but is not necessarily 603 00:25:41,172 --> 00:25:44,272 determinative in terms of what is eventually 604 00:25:44,276 --> 00:25:45,246 communicated to them. 605 00:25:45,243 --> 00:25:46,243 The Press: I guess 606 00:25:46,244 --> 00:25:48,584 what I'm getting at is, is that something that is being 607 00:25:48,580 --> 00:25:51,820 looked at as the review is ongoing, that there could be 608 00:25:51,816 --> 00:25:53,816 some kind of consultation there? 609 00:25:53,818 --> 00:25:54,818 Mr. Earnest: Well, 610 00:25:54,819 --> 00:25:56,819 I think just as a general matter, communication between 611 00:25:56,821 --> 00:25:58,791 the federal government and the families that are in this 612 00:25:58,790 --> 00:26:01,130 terrible situation is something that is being carefully 613 00:26:01,126 --> 00:26:03,126 considered as a part of this review. 614 00:26:03,128 --> 00:26:04,128 The Press: Okay. 615 00:26:04,129 --> 00:26:06,129 And last question, on the President's health 616 00:26:06,131 --> 00:26:08,631 and the visit over the weekend, how long has he been 617 00:26:08,633 --> 00:26:10,433 suffering with the sore throat? 618 00:26:10,435 --> 00:26:11,875 Mr. Earnest: My understanding 619 00:26:11,870 --> 00:26:15,710 is that this is something that has been sort of a minor 620 00:26:15,707 --> 00:26:18,777 but persistent problem for the last couple of weeks. 621 00:26:18,777 --> 00:26:20,777 And the President got it checked out here 622 00:26:20,779 --> 00:26:23,619 at the White House on Saturday morning. 623 00:26:23,615 --> 00:26:26,615 And as you saw from the statement that Dr. Jackson 624 00:26:26,618 --> 00:26:32,258 issued on Saturday, as a matter of prudence and 625 00:26:32,257 --> 00:26:35,397 as a matter of convenience, not a matter of urgency, the 626 00:26:35,393 --> 00:26:38,393 follow-up diagnostic test was done on Saturday afternoon. 627 00:26:38,396 --> 00:26:40,396 The President has a very busy schedule over 628 00:26:40,398 --> 00:26:42,398 the course of the next couple of weeks, including on the 629 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,400 weekends, and the President did happen 630 00:26:44,402 --> 00:26:46,402 to have an open Saturday afternoon, and so that's 631 00:26:46,404 --> 00:26:48,704 why the decision was made rather hastily to go to 632 00:26:48,707 --> 00:26:50,707 Walter Reed and to get this checked out. 633 00:26:50,709 --> 00:26:54,479 But as you saw from the President's remarks here 634 00:26:54,479 --> 00:26:56,479 at the White House last night honoring 635 00:26:56,481 --> 00:27:01,221 the recipients of the Kennedy Center Award, 636 00:27:01,219 --> 00:27:03,219 the President is feeling pretty good. 637 00:27:03,221 --> 00:27:04,221 The Press: Was there ever 638 00:27:04,222 --> 00:27:06,222 a conversation with counsel about a possible transfer 639 00:27:06,224 --> 00:27:08,224 of power if more tests were needed on that day? 640 00:27:08,226 --> 00:27:09,196 Mr. Earnest: Well, 641 00:27:09,194 --> 00:27:11,234 it's my understanding that there's a pretty standard 642 00:27:11,229 --> 00:27:13,869 playbook for the way that these things work. 643 00:27:13,865 --> 00:27:15,005 And there are considerations 644 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,600 that are raised if the President of the United States 645 00:27:17,602 --> 00:27:22,012 under any circumstances has to undergo general anesthesia. 646 00:27:22,007 --> 00:27:25,647 But that was not necessary in this case. 647 00:27:25,643 --> 00:27:26,643 Nadia. 648 00:27:26,644 --> 00:27:27,644 The Press: Josh, 649 00:27:27,645 --> 00:27:29,645 there are reports indicating that 2,000 Marines 650 00:27:29,647 --> 00:27:31,647 have been deployed in the Middle East 651 00:27:31,649 --> 00:27:33,649 in anticipation of publishing this report. 652 00:27:33,651 --> 00:27:35,851 What few embassies or your allies actually -- 653 00:27:35,854 --> 00:27:39,394 because there are embassies in Egypt -- is there any countries 654 00:27:39,391 --> 00:27:41,661 that you worry most about potential trouble, 655 00:27:41,659 --> 00:27:44,229 whether it's in Egypt or Libya or Yemen, 656 00:27:44,229 --> 00:27:46,499 or a scenario like Benghazi, for example, 657 00:27:46,498 --> 00:27:47,798 because of this report? 658 00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:49,199 Mr. Earnest: Well, 659 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,200 I'll say a couple of things, Nadia. 660 00:27:51,202 --> 00:27:53,202 The first is, I'm not going to be in a position 661 00:27:53,204 --> 00:27:55,174 to detail the security precautions that are taken 662 00:27:55,173 --> 00:27:57,173 by U.S. facilities around the world. 663 00:27:57,175 --> 00:27:59,915 The first is that probably wouldn't be 664 00:27:59,911 --> 00:28:03,511 a wise security strategy to detail to everybody 665 00:28:03,515 --> 00:28:05,785 what we're doing in advance. 666 00:28:05,784 --> 00:28:07,854 There are also precautions that are being taken 667 00:28:07,852 --> 00:28:09,852 at a substantial number of facilities around 668 00:28:09,854 --> 00:28:11,994 the globe, so it also would be difficult for me to stand here 669 00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:13,630 and describe all of them. 670 00:28:13,625 --> 00:28:15,625 But if you have specific questions about specific 671 00:28:15,627 --> 00:28:17,627 countries, I'd encourage you to check with 672 00:28:17,629 --> 00:28:19,629 the State Department or the Department of Defense. 673 00:28:19,631 --> 00:28:21,631 They may have some more information 674 00:28:21,633 --> 00:28:22,633 to share with you. 675 00:28:22,634 --> 00:28:24,634 But again, the thing I want to stress is -- 676 00:28:24,636 --> 00:28:26,636 there are two things I want to stress. 677 00:28:26,638 --> 00:28:28,638 The first is, preparations have been underway 678 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,640 for months now to prepare for this day. 679 00:28:30,642 --> 00:28:32,642 And we've been very mindful of the fact that 680 00:28:32,644 --> 00:28:34,984 this report would someday be released and so that's 681 00:28:34,979 --> 00:28:37,619 why preparations have been underway for some time. 682 00:28:37,615 --> 00:28:39,885 The second is that the concerns that have been 683 00:28:39,884 --> 00:28:44,254 raised are concerns related to the potential 684 00:28:44,255 --> 00:28:46,425 for violence or potential for an impact on security. 685 00:28:46,424 --> 00:28:54,034 So this is something that we're mindful of and watching. 686 00:28:54,032 --> 00:28:56,602 But again, this is the range of risk and 687 00:28:56,601 --> 00:28:59,241 of potential, not in the range of certainty. 688 00:28:59,237 --> 00:29:02,477 The Press: Another controversial policy 689 00:29:02,474 --> 00:29:04,474 that's been carried out under the previous 690 00:29:04,476 --> 00:29:06,446 administration and actually been increased 691 00:29:06,444 --> 00:29:09,314 under this administration is using drones. 692 00:29:09,314 --> 00:29:11,314 Many civilians have been killed. 693 00:29:11,316 --> 00:29:13,986 They have not been accounted for or compensated. 694 00:29:13,985 --> 00:29:16,425 And many will argue that actually this policy has 695 00:29:16,421 --> 00:29:20,091 been used to recruit more radicals and more jihadists. 696 00:29:20,091 --> 00:29:22,961 So what's the difference between the harsh 697 00:29:22,961 --> 00:29:25,831 interrogation techniques and drones that kill civilians? 698 00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:27,570 Mr. Earnest: Well, Nadia, 699 00:29:27,565 --> 00:29:30,765 the President gave a pretty detailed speech on this topic 700 00:29:30,768 --> 00:29:35,808 about a year and a half or so ago, where he talked about 701 00:29:35,807 --> 00:29:41,047 the desire to try to bring more transparency 702 00:29:41,045 --> 00:29:44,515 to some of the counterterrorism programs that are implemented 703 00:29:44,516 --> 00:29:46,516 by the United States. 704 00:29:48,653 --> 00:29:50,653 Despite that commitment to transparency, 705 00:29:50,655 --> 00:29:54,095 there are still some limits about what I can say from here. 706 00:29:54,092 --> 00:29:56,492 But I can tell you that the President does want 707 00:29:56,494 --> 00:29:59,464 to be sure that as we execute the counterterrorism 708 00:29:59,464 --> 00:30:01,834 strategy that he has outlined that we 709 00:30:01,833 --> 00:30:05,033 are mindful of the impact that those strategies have 710 00:30:05,036 --> 00:30:07,836 on our ability to win hearts and minds. 711 00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:10,239 And that's why one of the things -- one of the core 712 00:30:10,241 --> 00:30:12,941 components of our strategy in many of these places, 713 00:30:12,944 --> 00:30:15,684 including in IraThe Press: and in Syria 714 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,680 and even in Yemen, is close consultation 715 00:30:18,683 --> 00:30:22,183 and cooperation with local governments 716 00:30:22,187 --> 00:30:24,457 and making sure that it's local forces that are taking 717 00:30:24,455 --> 00:30:27,195 the fight on the ground to these extremist elements; 718 00:30:27,192 --> 00:30:29,632 that the administration is working closely where 719 00:30:29,627 --> 00:30:33,067 possible with the central government in these areas 720 00:30:33,064 --> 00:30:35,104 to make sure that we have the buy-in of the elected 721 00:30:35,099 --> 00:30:38,569 leadership of these countries so that 722 00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:43,140 we can ensure that the local populations understand 723 00:30:43,141 --> 00:30:45,541 that the extremists that we're going after 724 00:30:45,543 --> 00:30:47,813 are the same extremists that have wreaked havoc 725 00:30:47,812 --> 00:30:49,812 and violence in their communities. 726 00:30:49,814 --> 00:30:53,084 And when you talk about an organization like ISIL, 727 00:30:53,084 --> 00:30:56,024 ISIL, despite their high-profile and terribly 728 00:30:56,020 --> 00:30:58,790 violent execution of some Americans, have killed 729 00:30:58,790 --> 00:31:01,690 far more Iraqis than they have Americans. 730 00:31:01,693 --> 00:31:05,033 The same dynamic is at play with AQAP, 731 00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:07,429 that the violence that they have wrought against other 732 00:31:07,432 --> 00:31:11,002 Yemenis and other Muslims far outnumbers 733 00:31:11,002 --> 00:31:13,142 the violence that they've carried out against 734 00:31:13,137 --> 00:31:14,137 American citizens. 735 00:31:14,138 --> 00:31:16,138 And that's why it's important for people 736 00:31:16,140 --> 00:31:20,350 to understand that we're going to work closely with 737 00:31:20,345 --> 00:31:22,745 local governments and local forces to take on 738 00:31:22,747 --> 00:31:24,347 a fight against a common enemy. 739 00:31:24,349 --> 00:31:26,949 The Press: But the only problem 740 00:31:26,951 --> 00:31:28,951 is these governments are discredited among 741 00:31:28,953 --> 00:31:30,953 their own people, and you're a democracy, 742 00:31:30,955 --> 00:31:31,955 and there's a difference. 743 00:31:31,956 --> 00:31:33,956 Mr. Earnest: In some situations, 744 00:31:33,958 --> 00:31:34,958 that's true. 745 00:31:34,959 --> 00:31:37,729 And again, that's why we want to work as much 746 00:31:37,729 --> 00:31:42,069 as we can with local forces and with local governments. 747 00:31:42,066 --> 00:31:45,066 There are limits to this. 748 00:31:45,069 --> 00:31:47,309 But it is true that even if those governments 749 00:31:47,305 --> 00:31:50,345 are discredited that the local population does understand 750 00:31:50,341 --> 00:31:52,341 that these extremist elements are carrying out 751 00:31:52,343 --> 00:31:54,343 acts of violence against people in their community. 752 00:31:54,345 --> 00:31:58,445 And I would acknowledge that there may be some 753 00:31:58,449 --> 00:32:01,489 limits in our ability to communicate that message 754 00:32:01,486 --> 00:32:03,486 -- for that message to get through about 755 00:32:03,488 --> 00:32:04,488 who our target is here. 756 00:32:04,489 --> 00:32:09,499 But there are enormous precautions that are taken 757 00:32:09,494 --> 00:32:11,494 by our men and women in the military and by our 758 00:32:11,496 --> 00:32:18,106 intelligence community to limit -- to eliminate or, 759 00:32:18,102 --> 00:32:21,142 at a minimum, minimize the impact on civilian 760 00:32:21,139 --> 00:32:22,369 populations in these areas. 761 00:32:22,373 --> 00:32:25,013 And that is something that we try to be very mindful 762 00:32:25,009 --> 00:32:27,009 of and we're very careful about. 763 00:32:27,011 --> 00:32:29,981 And that is an extensive part of this planning. 764 00:32:29,981 --> 00:32:31,981 And I can tell you that as these terrorist groups 765 00:32:31,983 --> 00:32:34,783 carry out acts of violence against Westerners 766 00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:37,226 they are not at all concerned about the impact 767 00:32:37,221 --> 00:32:39,321 of the violence on locals. 768 00:32:39,324 --> 00:32:43,024 When there are car bombs that are detonated or 769 00:32:43,027 --> 00:32:45,027 there are other acts of violence that are carried 770 00:32:45,029 --> 00:32:47,029 out that are targeted at Westerners, they often 771 00:32:47,031 --> 00:32:49,601 have a terrible impact on the local population 772 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,600 in terms of the destruction of property 773 00:32:51,602 --> 00:32:53,942 or even the killing of innocent people. 774 00:32:53,938 --> 00:32:57,138 And that indiscriminate killing is the reason that 775 00:32:57,141 --> 00:33:02,311 even these extremists groups are so marginalized 776 00:33:02,313 --> 00:33:05,213 in many of these areas. 777 00:33:05,216 --> 00:33:06,216 April. 778 00:33:06,217 --> 00:33:07,217 The Press: Josh, 779 00:33:07,218 --> 00:33:10,558 I want to ask you a couple questions on racial profiling 780 00:33:10,555 --> 00:33:11,955 and this interview today. 781 00:33:11,956 --> 00:33:15,496 Could you talk to me about why it's so important 782 00:33:15,493 --> 00:33:19,063 to target young people with the President's message on riots? 783 00:33:19,063 --> 00:33:20,503 Mr. Earnest: Well, April, 784 00:33:20,498 --> 00:33:22,498 you're talking about the interview that the President 785 00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:24,270 did with 106 & Park? 786 00:33:24,268 --> 00:33:26,538 It was conducted last Friday. 787 00:33:26,537 --> 00:33:28,537 Some excerpts were released over the weekend, 788 00:33:28,539 --> 00:33:31,009 and I anticipate -- or I understand that the entirety 789 00:33:31,008 --> 00:33:33,008 of the President's interview will actually be broadcast 790 00:33:33,010 --> 00:33:35,250 later today. 791 00:33:35,246 --> 00:33:37,246 The President conducted the interview 792 00:33:37,248 --> 00:33:39,788 in conjunction with that program because 793 00:33:39,784 --> 00:33:43,784 we certainly have seen a lot of young people -- 794 00:33:43,788 --> 00:33:46,628 particularly young people of color -- be pretty 795 00:33:46,624 --> 00:33:50,164 outspoken in their concerns about the lack of 796 00:33:50,161 --> 00:33:53,761 trust that exists between many local law enforcement 797 00:33:53,765 --> 00:33:56,965 communities and the local law enforcement officials 798 00:33:56,968 --> 00:34:01,068 in the communities that they're sworn to serve and protect. 799 00:34:01,072 --> 00:34:04,472 And the President wanted to communicate to them 800 00:34:04,475 --> 00:34:05,475 a few things. 801 00:34:05,476 --> 00:34:07,476 He wanted to let them know that, 802 00:34:07,478 --> 00:34:09,218 A, their voice had been heard. 803 00:34:09,213 --> 00:34:11,613 He wanted to encourage them to continue 804 00:34:11,616 --> 00:34:14,886 to express their views and their concerns peacefully 805 00:34:14,886 --> 00:34:16,886 -- which the vast majority of those 806 00:34:16,888 --> 00:34:19,588 who have protested have done. 807 00:34:19,590 --> 00:34:21,960 And the President wanted them to know that these 808 00:34:21,959 --> 00:34:25,199 are issues that are legitimate to raise 809 00:34:25,196 --> 00:34:27,196 and that these are issues that the President 810 00:34:27,198 --> 00:34:29,338 of the United States himself takes very seriously 811 00:34:29,333 --> 00:34:31,373 and he wanted to have an opportunity to talk about 812 00:34:31,369 --> 00:34:33,909 some of the steps that he had put forward 813 00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:35,905 to try to address some of these issues. 814 00:34:35,907 --> 00:34:37,907 The last thing is the President also wanted to 815 00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:40,979 make clear that he shared their assessment 816 00:34:40,978 --> 00:34:43,518 that these are the kinds of policies and situations 817 00:34:43,514 --> 00:34:46,114 that are not just going to change overnight, that 818 00:34:46,117 --> 00:34:49,357 it's not one demonstration or one speech or one 819 00:34:49,353 --> 00:34:53,663 presidential trip that's going to cause 820 00:34:53,658 --> 00:34:57,458 the relationship between local law enforcement 821 00:34:57,462 --> 00:35:00,762 and some of the communities they serve to be transformed. 822 00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:04,765 This is going to require steady, sustained work. 823 00:35:04,769 --> 00:35:06,769 That's what the President is committed to. 824 00:35:06,771 --> 00:35:09,011 We've seen the Attorney General is committed to this. 825 00:35:09,006 --> 00:35:11,006 And all of this was an important part 826 00:35:11,008 --> 00:35:13,008 of the message the President wanted to deliver, 827 00:35:13,010 --> 00:35:17,050 and we certainly hope that will get through 828 00:35:17,048 --> 00:35:19,048 when the interview is broadcast. 829 00:35:19,050 --> 00:35:21,050 But I'd encourage you to evaluate that 830 00:35:21,052 --> 00:35:22,052 for yourself when it airs. 831 00:35:22,053 --> 00:35:23,053 The Press: I will. 832 00:35:23,054 --> 00:35:24,054 Mr. Earnest: Good. 833 00:35:24,055 --> 00:35:26,055 The Press: But the dynamic has changed. 834 00:35:26,057 --> 00:35:28,057 It changed this week and it changed last evening. 835 00:35:28,059 --> 00:35:31,299 And this morning, you said young people of color 836 00:35:31,295 --> 00:35:33,995 have been pretty outspoken on this issue. 837 00:35:33,998 --> 00:35:35,538 Well, in Berkeley, California, 838 00:35:35,533 --> 00:35:39,403 the vast majority of those who are protesting very -- 839 00:35:39,403 --> 00:35:43,643 some of them very agitated and violently -- are white people. 840 00:35:43,641 --> 00:35:45,581 They're not people of color. 841 00:35:45,576 --> 00:35:50,186 What do you say to those people and the white people -- 842 00:35:50,181 --> 00:35:52,521 white young people around the nation 843 00:35:52,517 --> 00:35:54,817 who feel that black lives matter? 844 00:35:54,819 --> 00:35:56,259 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think 845 00:35:56,254 --> 00:35:58,924 the message that the President has for them is the same. 846 00:35:58,923 --> 00:36:03,793 And I think it is indicative of the progress 847 00:36:03,794 --> 00:36:05,794 that we've made in this country that 848 00:36:05,796 --> 00:36:09,336 the vast majority of protestors -- black and white 849 00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:13,403 and Hispanic and Asian -- were peaceful, and that 850 00:36:13,404 --> 00:36:18,844 there was a strong show of support about the value 851 00:36:18,843 --> 00:36:22,213 of black lives, as you described it, about 852 00:36:22,213 --> 00:36:26,753 the importance of confronting these issues that plague 853 00:36:26,751 --> 00:36:28,821 so many communities across the country. 854 00:36:28,819 --> 00:36:32,059 I also think that there would be a strong area 855 00:36:32,056 --> 00:36:34,256 of agreement-- certainly not unanimous, but strong 856 00:36:34,258 --> 00:36:39,568 agreement -- about how bravely so many of our men 857 00:36:39,564 --> 00:36:42,964 and women in uniform and in local law enforcement 858 00:36:42,967 --> 00:36:46,707 serve; that these are individuals who put on 859 00:36:46,704 --> 00:36:49,844 a uniform and walk out the door prepared to put 860 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,240 their life on the line to protect citizens 861 00:36:52,243 --> 00:36:54,943 in the community that they're sworn to serve. 862 00:36:54,946 --> 00:36:59,186 And I think that there is, broadly, appreciation 863 00:36:59,183 --> 00:37:01,253 and high regard for individuals who are willing 864 00:37:01,252 --> 00:37:05,022 to take that risk for the communities that they serve. 865 00:37:05,022 --> 00:37:07,792 And that, too, is an assessment that is shared 866 00:37:07,792 --> 00:37:10,362 broadly, and again, I think is a testament 867 00:37:10,361 --> 00:37:13,661 to the substantial progress that's been made 868 00:37:13,664 --> 00:37:15,664 on this equation in this country. 869 00:37:15,666 --> 00:37:17,666 The Press: In the black community, 870 00:37:17,668 --> 00:37:19,668 there has been conversation upon conversation 871 00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:22,310 upon conversation when it comes to issues of race, 872 00:37:22,306 --> 00:37:25,206 and within the community it's always been said 873 00:37:25,209 --> 00:37:28,849 that maybe it needs to permeate into the other areas 874 00:37:28,846 --> 00:37:31,016 of the society, meaning white America. 875 00:37:31,015 --> 00:37:33,185 We feel it, we've heard it. 876 00:37:33,184 --> 00:37:35,724 What about the conversation with white America, 877 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:38,990 specifically when it comes to this kind of situation? 878 00:37:38,990 --> 00:37:40,690 Mr. Earnest: Well, April, 879 00:37:40,691 --> 00:37:44,861 my assumption is that the reason that this is an issue 880 00:37:44,862 --> 00:37:50,132 that's been so carefully and closely covered by newspapers 881 00:37:50,134 --> 00:37:54,604 and television outlets and even radio outlets is that 882 00:37:54,605 --> 00:37:57,005 this is something that all Americans care about. 883 00:37:57,008 --> 00:37:59,008 This is not just a subject of some concern 884 00:37:59,010 --> 00:38:01,480 to the African American community, but this is something 885 00:38:01,479 --> 00:38:03,419 that all Americans care about. 886 00:38:03,414 --> 00:38:05,954 And the President laid down that value I think 887 00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:08,820 pretty clearly, where he said something along 888 00:38:08,819 --> 00:38:10,919 the lines of if there is one person in America 889 00:38:10,921 --> 00:38:13,791 whose rights are being trampled, that's something 890 00:38:13,791 --> 00:38:16,131 that every American should be concerned about. 891 00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:18,767 And I think that reflects the values 892 00:38:18,763 --> 00:38:22,363 that we hold dear in this country. 893 00:38:22,366 --> 00:38:24,736 And I think that's -- again, I think that is 894 00:38:24,735 --> 00:38:28,205 an indication that while more progress remains, 895 00:38:28,205 --> 00:38:30,875 there is substantial progress that we've already made 896 00:38:30,875 --> 00:38:33,815 in terms of trying to bring this country together. 897 00:38:33,811 --> 00:38:35,451 The Press: And concretely, 898 00:38:35,446 --> 00:38:38,486 what can we expect on this continuation of this 899 00:38:38,482 --> 00:38:40,482 administration on curbing racial profiling, 900 00:38:40,484 --> 00:38:43,554 particularly after we've seen all of these incidents 901 00:38:43,554 --> 00:38:47,424 to include the death of Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner, Ferguson? 902 00:38:47,425 --> 00:38:51,695 I mean, what concretely do you think that we will see 903 00:38:51,696 --> 00:38:54,836 with this, with the curbing of racial profiling? 904 00:38:54,832 --> 00:38:55,962 Mr. Earnest: Well, 905 00:38:55,966 --> 00:38:59,106 I think we'll see a couple of things. 906 00:38:59,103 --> 00:39:02,603 The first is, based on this policy that was 907 00:39:02,606 --> 00:39:05,976 just announced today by the Department of Justice, 908 00:39:05,976 --> 00:39:09,176 you'll see that this is a policy that in the weeks 909 00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:11,180 and months ahead will be implemented in law 910 00:39:11,182 --> 00:39:13,752 enforcement agencies across the federal government, 911 00:39:13,751 --> 00:39:16,921 that will come alongside additional 912 00:39:16,921 --> 00:39:19,261 enhanced training for local law enforcement 913 00:39:19,256 --> 00:39:22,326 to make sure that they are properly enforcing this policy. 914 00:39:22,326 --> 00:39:25,196 You'll continue to see the federal government 915 00:39:25,196 --> 00:39:27,196 encourage local law enforcement agencies 916 00:39:27,198 --> 00:39:29,438 to consider putting in place a policy like 917 00:39:29,433 --> 00:39:31,733 the one that's in place for the federal government. 918 00:39:31,736 --> 00:39:33,706 You will also see the President and this 919 00:39:33,704 --> 00:39:35,704 administration follow up on the actions 920 00:39:35,706 --> 00:39:38,346 that were initiated at the beginning of last week 921 00:39:38,342 --> 00:39:39,342 on this matter. 922 00:39:39,343 --> 00:39:44,153 So you'll recall that Chief Ramsey 923 00:39:44,148 --> 00:39:47,448 from the Philadelphia Police Department, and Ms. Robinson, 924 00:39:47,451 --> 00:39:49,821 a former Department of Justice official, 925 00:39:49,820 --> 00:39:52,920 are conducting this review to evaluate 926 00:39:52,923 --> 00:39:54,923 the practices that are in place with local law 927 00:39:54,925 --> 00:39:57,565 enforcement in communities across the country, 928 00:39:57,561 --> 00:39:59,561 and surfacing these best practices and helping 929 00:39:59,563 --> 00:40:02,263 to communicate them to other law enforcement agencies 930 00:40:02,266 --> 00:40:03,806 across the country. 931 00:40:03,801 --> 00:40:06,641 You're also going to see the continued movement 932 00:40:06,637 --> 00:40:11,307 on this report related to law enforcement equipment 933 00:40:11,308 --> 00:40:13,948 that was conducted by OMB -- that they're supposed 934 00:40:13,944 --> 00:40:16,144 to come back with some more specific, tangible 935 00:40:16,147 --> 00:40:18,147 recommendations in 120 days about 936 00:40:18,149 --> 00:40:21,889 how to substantially improve the training that's associated 937 00:40:21,886 --> 00:40:23,886 with the provision of this equipment. 938 00:40:23,888 --> 00:40:25,888 You're also going to see the continued application 939 00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:27,890 of the President's community policing 940 00:40:27,892 --> 00:40:29,892 initiative, where he was clear that additional 941 00:40:29,894 --> 00:40:31,894 resources should be provided to local law 942 00:40:31,896 --> 00:40:33,896 enforcement to make sure that they had access 943 00:40:33,898 --> 00:40:34,898 to the training and information 944 00:40:34,899 --> 00:40:37,199 that they needed to better equip their officers 945 00:40:37,201 --> 00:40:39,501 to better serve and protect the communities 946 00:40:39,503 --> 00:40:41,503 that they're sworn to serve and protect. 947 00:40:41,505 --> 00:40:43,505 So there's a lot of work that remains to be done, 948 00:40:43,507 --> 00:40:46,777 and the President is determined to not allow 949 00:40:46,777 --> 00:40:49,277 this one story to fade from the headlines 950 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,680 but for the federal government to demonstrate a commitment 951 00:40:51,682 --> 00:40:52,682 to some follow-through. 952 00:40:52,683 --> 00:40:55,553 The Press: So how many states are embracing 953 00:40:55,553 --> 00:40:58,393 the encouragement of this curbing racial profiling? 954 00:40:58,389 --> 00:41:00,059 Mr. Earnest: I'd encourage you 955 00:41:00,057 --> 00:41:02,057 to check with the Department of Justice. 956 00:41:02,059 --> 00:41:04,059 They may have some more insight into 957 00:41:04,061 --> 00:41:06,231 what the reaction has been to this policy announcement. 958 00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:08,230 It was only announced a few hours ago, so 959 00:41:08,232 --> 00:41:10,232 I don't know that it's going to be a long list, 960 00:41:10,234 --> 00:41:12,234 but it's something that we're certainly -- 961 00:41:12,236 --> 00:41:13,236 The Press: -- been 962 00:41:13,237 --> 00:41:15,237 in communication with states about this? 963 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,239 Mr. Earnest: I believe so, 964 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:18,240 but check with the Department of Justice about that. 965 00:41:18,242 --> 00:41:19,242 Ed. 966 00:41:19,243 --> 00:41:20,243 The Press: Josh, 967 00:41:20,244 --> 00:41:22,244 following on that, you've repeatedly cited progress 968 00:41:22,246 --> 00:41:23,216 in answers to April. 969 00:41:23,214 --> 00:41:25,214 Why then is there this Bloomberg poll out today 970 00:41:25,216 --> 00:41:27,686 saying 53 percent of Americans says 971 00:41:27,685 --> 00:41:29,755 interactions between the white and black communities 972 00:41:29,753 --> 00:41:32,523 have deteriorated since the President took office? 973 00:41:32,523 --> 00:41:34,523 That would seem to suggest the opposite. 974 00:41:34,525 --> 00:41:35,525 Mr. Earnest: Well, Ed, 975 00:41:35,526 --> 00:41:39,896 I think that any sort of fair-minded look at history 976 00:41:39,897 --> 00:41:41,897 would indicate that the situation 977 00:41:41,899 --> 00:41:43,999 that is facing the American people right now 978 00:41:44,001 --> 00:41:46,601 is far better than it used to be; 979 00:41:46,604 --> 00:41:49,144 that even 40 or 50 years ago we saw a situation 980 00:41:49,139 --> 00:41:51,139 where local law enforcement officials were 981 00:41:51,141 --> 00:41:53,581 systematically applying the law in a way 982 00:41:53,577 --> 00:41:56,617 that trampled on the civil rights of minority members 983 00:41:56,614 --> 00:41:58,614 of some communities in this country. 984 00:41:58,616 --> 00:42:00,116 The Press: They agree. 985 00:42:00,117 --> 00:42:03,687 But this poll is about today, and it's saying 986 00:42:03,687 --> 00:42:06,857 that while the country, yes, has made progress, 987 00:42:06,857 --> 00:42:09,627 a majority of Americans believe the relationship 988 00:42:09,627 --> 00:42:10,627 has deteriorated. 989 00:42:10,628 --> 00:42:11,998 Mr. Earnest: And I guess 990 00:42:11,996 --> 00:42:14,196 what I'm saying is that the people who are able 991 00:42:14,198 --> 00:42:20,108 to step back and dispassionately evaluate the current state of 992 00:42:20,104 --> 00:42:23,104 race relations in this country would acknowledge two things. 993 00:42:23,107 --> 00:42:25,877 One is that we've made tremendous progress, 994 00:42:25,876 --> 00:42:27,876 but they would also readily acknowledge that there's 995 00:42:27,878 --> 00:42:29,878 more important work that needs to be done, 996 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,080 and this is work that the President is committed to. 997 00:42:32,082 --> 00:42:33,082 The Press: Okay, 998 00:42:33,083 --> 00:42:34,083 jump to a few other topics. 999 00:42:34,084 --> 00:42:36,084 On the President's health, some medical experts 1000 00:42:36,086 --> 00:42:39,126 seem surprised that he got a CT scan. 1001 00:42:39,123 --> 00:42:41,563 And you had said in I think the statement over the weekend, 1002 00:42:41,558 --> 00:42:43,728 said it was convenient. 1003 00:42:43,727 --> 00:42:45,727 Was there something else the doctor saw? 1004 00:42:45,729 --> 00:42:48,069 I mean, can you rule out completely -- did they see 1005 00:42:48,065 --> 00:42:50,835 any kind of a growth or concern about a growth, 1006 00:42:50,834 --> 00:42:52,834 or something that -- most people when they have 1007 00:42:52,836 --> 00:42:55,906 a sore throat do not get a CT scan. 1008 00:42:55,906 --> 00:42:57,846 Mr. Earnest: Most people 1009 00:42:57,841 --> 00:43:01,241 aren't the President of the United States. 1010 00:43:01,245 --> 00:43:04,645 The Press: Most people are not. (laughter) 1011 00:43:04,648 --> 00:43:06,648 Mr. Earnest: It's hard for me to speak 1012 00:43:06,650 --> 00:43:08,620 to the sort of standard protocol for treating 1013 00:43:08,619 --> 00:43:09,619 a sore throat. 1014 00:43:09,620 --> 00:43:11,190 I'm not a medical professional. 1015 00:43:11,188 --> 00:43:13,958 But what I can tell you is what Dr. Jackson said, 1016 00:43:13,958 --> 00:43:16,998 which is that there was an evaluation that was 1017 00:43:16,994 --> 00:43:19,664 conducted here at the White House by an ear, 1018 00:43:19,663 --> 00:43:22,333 nose and throat specialist of this persistent 1019 00:43:22,333 --> 00:43:24,333 sore throat that the President had been feeling 1020 00:43:24,335 --> 00:43:25,735 over the last couple of weeks. 1021 00:43:25,736 --> 00:43:29,636 And based on that examination, 1022 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,280 both Dr. Jackson and the specialist felt it would 1023 00:43:33,277 --> 00:43:35,277 be prudent for the President to get 1024 00:43:35,279 --> 00:43:38,849 an additional diagnostic test that included this CT scan. 1025 00:43:38,849 --> 00:43:40,849 And that was something that they were not able to 1026 00:43:40,851 --> 00:43:44,691 do here at the White House -- we don't have a CT scan 1027 00:43:44,688 --> 00:43:46,688 equipment here at the White House. 1028 00:43:46,690 --> 00:43:48,690 So the President made the decision, because he had 1029 00:43:48,692 --> 00:43:50,692 the opening on his schedule on Saturday 1030 00:43:50,694 --> 00:43:52,694 afternoon, to get that done right away. 1031 00:43:52,696 --> 00:43:57,836 And the review of that CT scan indicated that-- 1032 00:43:57,835 --> 00:43:59,005 came back normal. 1033 00:43:59,003 --> 00:44:01,003 And that's something that the Dr. Jackson concluded 1034 00:44:01,005 --> 00:44:02,975 meant that the sore throat was consistent 1035 00:44:02,973 --> 00:44:04,973 with some symptoms of acid reflux and that the President 1036 00:44:04,975 --> 00:44:06,975 would be treated accordingly. 1037 00:44:10,781 --> 00:44:11,781 The Press: Israel. 1038 00:44:11,782 --> 00:44:14,652 On Friday, you seemed to leave the door open 1039 00:44:14,651 --> 00:44:17,751 to the possibility of the U.S. having sanctions against Israel. 1040 00:44:17,755 --> 00:44:19,725 I understand Jen Psaki at the State Department 1041 00:44:19,723 --> 00:44:21,463 is saying that door is closed. 1042 00:44:21,458 --> 00:44:23,458 Did something change over the weekend? 1043 00:44:23,460 --> 00:44:24,460 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, Ed, 1044 00:44:24,461 --> 00:44:26,461 I'm not going to be in a position to talk -- 1045 00:44:26,463 --> 00:44:28,463 to detail any sort of private conversations that did 1046 00:44:28,465 --> 00:44:30,465 take place here at the White House or anywhere else 1047 00:44:30,467 --> 00:44:31,467 in the administration. 1048 00:44:31,468 --> 00:44:33,468 But I can tell you definitively the reports 1049 00:44:33,470 --> 00:44:34,470 that the administration might 1050 00:44:34,471 --> 00:44:36,471 be contemplating sanctions against Israel 1051 00:44:36,473 --> 00:44:38,473 are completely unfounded and without merit. 1052 00:44:38,475 --> 00:44:41,345 Now, what hasn't changed are the significant concerns 1053 00:44:41,345 --> 00:44:43,345 that we have with the Israelis continuing 1054 00:44:43,347 --> 00:44:45,417 to pursue settlement activity. 1055 00:44:45,416 --> 00:44:47,086 We believe that those actions 1056 00:44:47,084 --> 00:44:49,084 are counterproductive, that they don't 1057 00:44:49,086 --> 00:44:51,656 sort of facilitate the kind of trust that we believe 1058 00:44:51,655 --> 00:44:54,495 is necessary for both sides to try to hammer out 1059 00:44:54,491 --> 00:44:56,531 their differences in a way that is consistent 1060 00:44:56,527 --> 00:44:59,867 with the national security concerns of the Israeli people 1061 00:44:59,863 --> 00:45:02,163 and with the broader aspirations of the Palestinian people. 1062 00:45:02,166 --> 00:45:06,736 So we have made our views known very clearly about 1063 00:45:06,737 --> 00:45:10,837 our frustration with the government of Israel 1064 00:45:10,841 --> 00:45:13,211 continuing to pursue these kinds of settlement 1065 00:45:13,210 --> 00:45:15,210 activities, and that's something that we're going 1066 00:45:15,212 --> 00:45:18,382 to continue to criticize and be clear about, 1067 00:45:18,382 --> 00:45:21,852 again, only because we believe it is so clearly 1068 00:45:21,852 --> 00:45:24,392 in the interests of both the Israeli people 1069 00:45:24,388 --> 00:45:27,128 and the Palestinian people for both sides to sit down 1070 00:45:27,124 --> 00:45:29,124 at the negotiating table and try to resolve 1071 00:45:29,126 --> 00:45:33,626 their differences directly, and that actions like 1072 00:45:33,630 --> 00:45:35,200 pursuing settlement activity 1073 00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:37,199 are counterproductive to that ultimate goal. 1074 00:45:37,201 --> 00:45:38,201 The Press: Last one. 1075 00:45:38,202 --> 00:45:40,202 On the torture report, President -- 1076 00:45:40,204 --> 00:45:42,204 Former President Bush made some comments over the weekend 1077 00:45:42,206 --> 00:45:44,406 to CNN expressing concern. 1078 00:45:44,408 --> 00:45:46,808 Two-part on this, which is, one, has President Obama 1079 00:45:46,810 --> 00:45:48,450 spoken at all in recent weeks, 1080 00:45:48,445 --> 00:45:50,785 recent months, as this report was about to come out, 1081 00:45:50,781 --> 00:45:53,181 to coordinate at all between the two Presidents, 1082 00:45:53,183 --> 00:45:55,523 given the sensitivity of this -- A. 1083 00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:58,259 And B, does the President -- current President share 1084 00:45:58,255 --> 00:46:01,395 the former President's concerns at all that some 1085 00:46:01,391 --> 00:46:03,491 intelligence officials might -- there might be an 1086 00:46:03,494 --> 00:46:05,494 impression they're being thrown under the bus here. 1087 00:46:05,496 --> 00:46:07,836 Mr. Earnest: Well, Ed, 1088 00:46:07,831 --> 00:46:10,371 let me just say as a general matter that we don't often -- 1089 00:46:10,367 --> 00:46:12,367 we don't detail every conversation that 1090 00:46:12,369 --> 00:46:15,869 the President has with former Presidents, so I can't speak 1091 00:46:15,873 --> 00:46:21,113 to any conversations that may or may not have occurred 1092 00:46:21,111 --> 00:46:24,411 between President Obama and President Bush on this issue 1093 00:46:24,414 --> 00:46:25,414 or any other. 1094 00:46:25,415 --> 00:46:29,115 But I can say as a general matter, the President does 1095 00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:32,189 believe -- like President Bush expressed, I believe -- 1096 00:46:32,189 --> 00:46:34,389 that the vast majority of the men and women 1097 00:46:34,391 --> 00:46:37,261 in our intelligence community are true patriots. 1098 00:46:37,261 --> 00:46:41,501 These are individuals who in a very dedicated 1099 00:46:41,498 --> 00:46:45,268 fashion used their skill and expertise and, 1100 00:46:45,269 --> 00:46:49,269 on some occasions, put themselves at great risk 1101 00:46:49,273 --> 00:46:51,373 to try to protect the United States of America. 1102 00:46:51,375 --> 00:46:53,715 And those are individuals who have the enduring 1103 00:46:53,710 --> 00:46:57,150 gratitude of this President and the American 1104 00:46:57,147 --> 00:46:59,147 people because the actions that they take 1105 00:46:59,149 --> 00:47:02,189 on a daily basis, even when nobody is paying attention, 1106 00:47:02,186 --> 00:47:04,956 contribute significantly to the safety and security 1107 00:47:04,955 --> 00:47:06,925 of the United States of America and her people. 1108 00:47:06,924 --> 00:47:07,924 Major. 1109 00:47:07,925 --> 00:47:09,925 The Press: Josh, over the weekend, 1110 00:47:09,927 --> 00:47:11,997 Senate Democrats spent a good deal of time talking 1111 00:47:11,995 --> 00:47:14,795 among themselves about whether this was the right time 1112 00:47:14,798 --> 00:47:17,268 to release that report, and there are many who believe 1113 00:47:17,267 --> 00:47:19,737 this is not the right time; that it's a very, very close call; 1114 00:47:19,736 --> 00:47:23,276 that there are a number of objective reasons why it's, 1115 00:47:23,273 --> 00:47:25,273 as you just hinted a moment ago, 1116 00:47:25,275 --> 00:47:27,245 never a good time to release this report. 1117 00:47:27,244 --> 00:47:29,244 From the White House's perspective, what is 1118 00:47:29,246 --> 00:47:32,246 the deciding factor that makes this the right time -- 1119 00:47:32,249 --> 00:47:34,649 other than the political calendar, which suggests 1120 00:47:34,651 --> 00:47:36,651 if Senate Republicans are in charge 1121 00:47:36,653 --> 00:47:38,653 of the Intelligence Committee, this report will never see 1122 00:47:38,655 --> 00:47:39,655 the light of day? 1123 00:47:39,656 --> 00:47:41,656 Mr. Earnest: The fact is, Major, 1124 00:47:41,658 --> 00:47:43,798 the right time will be determined by members of 1125 00:47:43,794 --> 00:47:46,294 the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. 1126 00:47:46,296 --> 00:47:47,466 That is as it should be. 1127 00:47:47,464 --> 00:47:49,734 It's their report and they should make the decision 1128 00:47:49,733 --> 00:47:51,733 about the appropriate time for releasing. 1129 00:47:51,735 --> 00:47:53,735 The Press: But as you often remind us, 1130 00:47:53,737 --> 00:47:55,737 the President is chiefly responsible for articulating 1131 00:47:55,739 --> 00:47:57,739 and defending the security of this country, 1132 00:47:57,741 --> 00:47:59,741 its embassies and its personnel. 1133 00:47:59,743 --> 00:48:01,743 He has to have an opinion on this. 1134 00:48:01,745 --> 00:48:03,745 He can't be a simple casual bystander 1135 00:48:03,747 --> 00:48:05,747 leaving it to the committee to decide entirely 1136 00:48:05,749 --> 00:48:08,249 on its own without any guidance whether this is the best time. 1137 00:48:08,252 --> 00:48:09,782 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, 1138 00:48:09,786 --> 00:48:13,026 we have been -- I don't want to leave you with the impression 1139 00:48:13,023 --> 00:48:15,023 that there hasn't been any guidance. 1140 00:48:15,025 --> 00:48:17,025 There has been communication between 1141 00:48:17,027 --> 00:48:19,027 the administration and the committee. 1142 00:48:19,029 --> 00:48:20,029 The Press: So why 1143 00:48:20,030 --> 00:48:21,230 is this the right time? 1144 00:48:21,231 --> 00:48:22,231 Mr. Earnest: Again, 1145 00:48:22,232 --> 00:48:24,302 that is something that they have to decide -- 1146 00:48:24,301 --> 00:48:26,301 that members of the committee have to decide for themselves. 1147 00:48:26,303 --> 00:48:27,303 It is their report. 1148 00:48:27,304 --> 00:48:29,304 And as you've reminded me on a number of occasions, 1149 00:48:29,306 --> 00:48:31,306 despite the President's priority that he places 1150 00:48:31,308 --> 00:48:33,448 on the safety and security of the United States 1151 00:48:33,443 --> 00:48:35,913 of America, the legislative branch is a separate 1152 00:48:35,912 --> 00:48:38,082 branch of government and they have oversight 1153 00:48:38,081 --> 00:48:40,951 responsibilities over the intelligence community 1154 00:48:40,951 --> 00:48:42,451 and over the executive branch. 1155 00:48:42,452 --> 00:48:47,662 And so they are free to exercise that oversight 1156 00:48:47,658 --> 00:48:50,828 authority without inappropriate interference 1157 00:48:50,827 --> 00:48:52,497 from the administration. 1158 00:48:52,496 --> 00:48:56,496 That said, this White House -- the President 1159 00:48:56,500 --> 00:48:58,700 and obviously the Chief of Staff, Denis McDonough, 1160 00:48:58,702 --> 00:49:04,172 have gone to great lengths to try to facilitate 1161 00:49:04,174 --> 00:49:07,644 the kinds of productive conversations between 1162 00:49:07,644 --> 00:49:09,784 the Intelligence Committee and the intelligence community 1163 00:49:11,782 --> 00:49:13,782 about the release of this report. 1164 00:49:13,784 --> 00:49:15,784 And that's been painstaking work. 1165 00:49:15,786 --> 00:49:17,756 But ultimately this administration 1166 00:49:17,754 --> 00:49:20,224 and this President and this White House have been engaged 1167 00:49:20,223 --> 00:49:23,293 in that effort because we believe so strongly 1168 00:49:23,293 --> 00:49:25,293 in the value of actually following through 1169 00:49:25,295 --> 00:49:27,365 on the release of this report, that it says something 1170 00:49:27,364 --> 00:49:30,904 critically important about our values as a country 1171 00:49:30,901 --> 00:49:35,811 and that even though it may pose some risk 1172 00:49:35,806 --> 00:49:38,846 to the security situation at diplomatic facilities 1173 00:49:38,842 --> 00:49:42,882 around the globe, we can take prudent steps to protect 1174 00:49:42,879 --> 00:49:47,589 those facilities, and that it is critically important -- 1175 00:49:47,584 --> 00:49:49,584 again, consistent with the values of 1176 00:49:49,586 --> 00:49:51,556 this country -- for the declassified version 1177 00:49:51,555 --> 00:49:53,555 of the summary of this report to be released. 1178 00:49:53,557 --> 00:49:55,427 The Press: There's also a sense 1179 00:49:55,425 --> 00:49:57,565 that one of the underlying lessons of the report will be 1180 00:49:57,561 --> 00:50:00,331 that it's dangerous when a bureaucracy runs amok 1181 00:50:00,330 --> 00:50:03,170 if there's not an elaborate chain of communication 1182 00:50:03,166 --> 00:50:04,166 all the way to the top, 1183 00:50:04,167 --> 00:50:06,167 to the President of the United States. 1184 00:50:06,169 --> 00:50:08,269 Is that also something you expect to be a gain net 1185 00:50:08,271 --> 00:50:10,841 in the release of this report, a CIA that's 1186 00:50:10,841 --> 00:50:13,541 chastised a bit about its interpretation of 1187 00:50:13,543 --> 00:50:14,783 executive branch orders and how 1188 00:50:14,778 --> 00:50:15,778 it carried them out? 1189 00:50:15,779 --> 00:50:16,779 Mr. Earnest: Well, we'll see 1190 00:50:16,780 --> 00:50:19,080 what the report eventually says. 1191 00:50:19,082 --> 00:50:21,882 I can tell you that the President strongly 1192 00:50:21,885 --> 00:50:26,695 endorses the work that Director Brennan has been conducting 1193 00:50:26,690 --> 00:50:30,360 as he's led that agency and the President 1194 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,360 has got complete confidence in his ability 1195 00:50:32,362 --> 00:50:34,362 to lead that agency and to do that -- 1196 00:50:34,364 --> 00:50:36,364 The Press: -- this would have been 1197 00:50:36,366 --> 00:50:38,336 a different era under a different set of circumstances. 1198 00:50:38,335 --> 00:50:39,335 Mr. Earnest: Well, 1199 00:50:39,336 --> 00:50:41,336 we'll see what the report has to say. 1200 00:50:41,338 --> 00:50:43,338 But as it relates to sending a message 1201 00:50:43,340 --> 00:50:45,340 to the Central Intelligence Agency, I can tell you 1202 00:50:45,342 --> 00:50:47,342 that the message that the President wants to send 1203 00:50:47,344 --> 00:50:49,344 is that he's got complete confidence in the Director 1204 00:50:49,346 --> 00:50:51,346 because of the excellent work that he does 1205 00:50:51,348 --> 00:50:55,218 on a day-to-day basis, and to express his gratitude 1206 00:50:55,218 --> 00:50:58,658 to the men and women of the CIA who, again, on a daily 1207 00:50:58,655 --> 00:51:00,755 basis are serving their country, often without 1208 00:51:00,757 --> 00:51:03,757 any recognition at all, but doing the kind of work 1209 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,430 that's critical to protecting the American people. 1210 00:51:07,431 --> 00:51:09,571 The Press: It was a busy weekend 1211 00:51:09,566 --> 00:51:12,166 on the Hill in another respect, lots of negotiations going on 1212 00:51:12,169 --> 00:51:14,269 back and forth about several pieces of legislation 1213 00:51:14,271 --> 00:51:15,571 heading to the finish line. 1214 00:51:15,572 --> 00:51:17,942 I know you -- I suspect you're not going 1215 00:51:17,941 --> 00:51:20,581 to get into great detail, but would you be willing 1216 00:51:20,577 --> 00:51:23,477 to give us an overall sense of the trajectory of things? 1217 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,120 And are you more confident than you were, let's say, 1218 00:51:26,116 --> 00:51:28,356 Thursday or Friday, about the CR being resolved 1219 00:51:28,351 --> 00:51:30,951 largely if not entirely on your terms, and the 1220 00:51:30,954 --> 00:51:32,954 National Defense Authorization Act -- 1221 00:51:32,956 --> 00:51:35,726 all of those things -- the extenders bill -- getting 1222 00:51:35,725 --> 00:51:37,765 done by the end of this week in terms that are 1223 00:51:37,761 --> 00:51:39,601 if not perfect, acceptable? 1224 00:51:39,596 --> 00:51:41,536 Mr. Earnest: Well, Major, 1225 00:51:41,531 --> 00:51:42,601 I can tell you that I have -- 1226 00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:45,399 in the grand scale of things, I've not worked 1227 00:51:45,402 --> 00:51:48,372 at the White House that long, but I've worked here long enough 1228 00:51:48,371 --> 00:51:50,411 to know that I shouldn't be making predictions about 1229 00:51:50,407 --> 00:51:52,747 the outcome of the legislative process. 1230 00:51:52,742 --> 00:51:56,142 The Press: I'm not trying to -- 1231 00:51:56,146 --> 00:51:58,216 Mr. Earnest: I know. 1232 00:51:58,215 --> 00:52:00,215 The Press: -- what sense you have 1233 00:52:00,217 --> 00:52:02,217 because there are a lot of conversations, going back -- 1234 00:52:02,219 --> 00:52:03,219 Mr. Earnest: Well, 1235 00:52:03,220 --> 00:52:05,220 I guess what I would say is just that you would have 1236 00:52:05,222 --> 00:52:07,222 a better sense of that than I would, 1237 00:52:07,224 --> 00:52:09,224 based on the conversations that you have with members 1238 00:52:09,226 --> 00:52:10,226 of Congress and their staffs. 1239 00:52:10,227 --> 00:52:12,227 What I can tell you is that we've been 1240 00:52:12,229 --> 00:52:14,229 really clear about how we believe those processes should 1241 00:52:14,231 --> 00:52:16,701 be resolved, but I'm not going to predict 1242 00:52:16,700 --> 00:52:18,700 how they're going to be resolved. 1243 00:52:18,702 --> 00:52:19,702 The Press: Okay. 1244 00:52:19,703 --> 00:52:20,703 One last thing. 1245 00:52:20,704 --> 00:52:22,704 Can you tell us why Antonio Weiss 1246 00:52:22,706 --> 00:52:26,076 is the best nominee for this position at the Department 1247 00:52:26,076 --> 00:52:28,716 of Treasury, Undersecretary for Domestic Finance? 1248 00:52:28,712 --> 00:52:32,652 Elizabeth Warren thinks he's not only unqualified, 1249 00:52:32,649 --> 00:52:35,049 doesn't have any particular interest 1250 00:52:35,051 --> 00:52:37,451 in the underlying issues which he would be carrying out 1251 00:52:37,454 --> 00:52:42,924 if confirmed, and that it's unwise and a bit rankling 1252 00:52:42,926 --> 00:52:45,326 to see that his company, Lazard, would give him 1253 00:52:45,328 --> 00:52:48,228 nearly $21 million in compensation for taking 1254 00:52:48,231 --> 00:52:51,601 a government position after leaving that particular firm. 1255 00:52:51,601 --> 00:52:53,071 Mr. Earnest: Well, Major, 1256 00:52:53,069 --> 00:52:57,209 I can tell you that Mr. Weiss is a highly qualified nominee. 1257 00:52:57,207 --> 00:52:59,447 He's got deep expertise in the financial markets 1258 00:52:59,442 --> 00:53:02,142 and economic issues that are appropriate for somebody 1259 00:53:02,145 --> 00:53:04,145 to take on the responsibility of being 1260 00:53:04,147 --> 00:53:07,487 Undersecretary of the Treasury for Domestic Finance. 1261 00:53:07,484 --> 00:53:11,454 He's been in the field of finance for 20 years, 1262 00:53:11,454 --> 00:53:15,454 and in that time he's overseen numerous major financial 1263 00:53:15,458 --> 00:53:18,128 transactions across a variety of industries that have 1264 00:53:18,128 --> 00:53:21,228 driven significant investment inside the United States. 1265 00:53:21,231 --> 00:53:23,231 This is somebody who has very good knowledge 1266 00:53:23,233 --> 00:53:28,843 of the way that the financial markets work, and that 1267 00:53:28,838 --> 00:53:31,838 is critically important when you're asking somebody 1268 00:53:31,841 --> 00:53:34,581 to take on a position in the federal government that 1269 00:53:34,578 --> 00:53:38,118 has such a significant bearing on those markets. 1270 00:53:38,114 --> 00:53:40,114 I can tell you that the other reason that 1271 00:53:40,116 --> 00:53:42,656 we believe strongly that Mr. Weiss should 1272 00:53:42,652 --> 00:53:45,492 be confirmed with bipartisan support is that 1273 00:53:45,488 --> 00:53:48,028 he is somebody who has spent some time thinking 1274 00:53:48,024 --> 00:53:50,494 about some of the issues that the President believes 1275 00:53:50,493 --> 00:53:52,093 are critically important. 1276 00:53:52,095 --> 00:53:55,565 For example, in 2012, Mr. Weiss co-authored 1277 00:53:55,565 --> 00:53:57,635 a report called "Reforming Our Tax System 1278 00:53:57,634 --> 00:54:00,104 and Reducing our Deficit. 1279 00:54:00,103 --> 00:54:04,073 "Mr. Weiss shares the President's view that we would 1280 00:54:04,074 --> 00:54:06,474 benefit significantly from reforming and simplifying 1281 00:54:06,476 --> 00:54:09,676 our tax code and implementing policies that help 1282 00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:12,019 boost economic growth while supporting our middle class. 1283 00:54:12,015 --> 00:54:16,555 That includes, by the way, eliminating the inversion 1284 00:54:16,553 --> 00:54:20,153 loophole that allows some large corporations 1285 00:54:20,156 --> 00:54:23,126 to renounce -- essentially renounce their citizenship 1286 00:54:23,126 --> 00:54:24,156 just so that they can get away 1287 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,160 without paying their fair share of taxes. 1288 00:54:26,162 --> 00:54:32,072 So Mr. Weiss has a lot of experience, has knowledge 1289 00:54:32,068 --> 00:54:34,068 that would be critically important 1290 00:54:34,070 --> 00:54:38,270 to the successful conduct of the responsibilities 1291 00:54:38,274 --> 00:54:40,274 of somebody who's going to serve 1292 00:54:40,276 --> 00:54:41,276 as the Undersecretary 1293 00:54:41,277 --> 00:54:43,277 of the Treasury for Domestic Finance. 1294 00:54:43,279 --> 00:54:45,279 That's why we're counting on the Congress 1295 00:54:45,281 --> 00:54:47,281 to take quick action and confirm him in bipartisan fashion. 1296 00:54:47,283 --> 00:54:48,283 The Press: Anything troubling 1297 00:54:48,284 --> 00:54:50,254 for this administration about the compensation that awaits 1298 00:54:50,253 --> 00:54:51,253 him coming into government? 1299 00:54:51,254 --> 00:54:53,254 I mean, those compensation packages are designed 1300 00:54:53,256 --> 00:54:55,796 to keep people in the private sector so they don't jump 1301 00:54:55,792 --> 00:54:56,962 from company to company. 1302 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,960 Now he's coming into government. 1303 00:54:58,962 --> 00:55:00,962 He will not be regulating Lazard directly, 1304 00:55:00,964 --> 00:55:04,834 I grant you that, but within the whole scheme of things, 1305 00:55:04,834 --> 00:55:08,804 doesn't it seem a little, if not outrageous, odd? 1306 00:55:08,805 --> 00:55:10,675 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, 1307 00:55:10,674 --> 00:55:13,144 let me -- this is what I'll say about this. 1308 00:55:13,143 --> 00:55:15,713 Before any nominee takes a position in government, 1309 00:55:15,712 --> 00:55:17,712 they have to go through a review 1310 00:55:17,714 --> 00:55:19,714 by the Office of Government Ethics. 1311 00:55:19,716 --> 00:55:21,716 This is an independent agency that considers 1312 00:55:21,718 --> 00:55:23,718 exactly this question, and they have 1313 00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:24,720 a lot of expertise in doing so. 1314 00:55:24,721 --> 00:55:26,721 So if they have any concerns about 1315 00:55:26,723 --> 00:55:28,993 the ethics of the compensation arrangement 1316 00:55:28,992 --> 00:55:31,792 that you've described, I'm sure they'll make them known. 1317 00:55:31,795 --> 00:55:33,795 It's in their interest to do so. 1318 00:55:33,797 --> 00:55:35,797 But as far as I know, they haven't. 1319 00:55:35,799 --> 00:55:36,799 The Press: Right, 1320 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,800 and the President has no trouble with it? 1321 00:55:38,802 --> 00:55:40,272 Mr. Earnest: And he does not. 1322 00:55:40,270 --> 00:55:41,270 Chris. 1323 00:55:41,271 --> 00:55:42,401 The Press: Given that you said, 1324 00:55:42,405 --> 00:55:45,105 Josh, that the President's stand about the torture report 1325 00:55:45,108 --> 00:55:49,878 is that we should be as transparent as we possibly can, 1326 00:55:49,879 --> 00:55:52,179 and that people may have a different view 1327 00:55:52,182 --> 00:55:54,482 of what could constitute transparency -- 1328 00:55:54,484 --> 00:55:57,054 some members of the Intelligence Committee 1329 00:55:57,053 --> 00:55:59,093 may differ with members of the intelligence community, 1330 00:55:59,089 --> 00:56:01,959 for example -- what can you tell us about 1331 00:56:01,958 --> 00:56:04,498 the redaction process toward that end of giving 1332 00:56:04,494 --> 00:56:07,664 the American people as much information as you possibly can? 1333 00:56:07,664 --> 00:56:08,664 Mr. Earnest: Well, 1334 00:56:08,665 --> 00:56:11,805 what we're talking about are a wide range of classified 1335 00:56:11,801 --> 00:56:14,041 activities and classified programs, and that will 1336 00:56:14,037 --> 00:56:16,237 necessarily limit how much of this information 1337 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:17,509 can be disclosed publicly. 1338 00:56:17,507 --> 00:56:19,407 The Press: So is it only 1339 00:56:19,409 --> 00:56:21,849 classified information that would be withheld? 1340 00:56:21,845 --> 00:56:25,115 Mr. Earnest: Well, 1341 00:56:25,115 --> 00:56:27,115 I don't know the answer to that question. 1342 00:56:27,117 --> 00:56:29,117 What I do know is that the administration 1343 00:56:29,119 --> 00:56:31,659 has been working closely with both members of the committee 1344 00:56:31,654 --> 00:56:35,094 and the intelligence community to redact 1345 00:56:35,091 --> 00:56:37,091 as much of that report as possible -- I'm sorry, 1346 00:56:37,093 --> 00:56:39,093 to declassify as much of that report as possible. 1347 00:56:39,095 --> 00:56:40,095 (laughter) 1348 00:56:40,096 --> 00:56:43,936 Wouldn't make a lot of sense to redact that report. 1349 00:56:43,933 --> 00:56:45,433 The Press: Freudian. 1350 00:56:45,435 --> 00:56:47,435 Mr. Earnest: I can tell you that the -- 1351 00:56:47,437 --> 00:56:52,177 I've been up here a little while already, you can tell. 1352 00:56:52,175 --> 00:56:53,175 (laughter) 1353 00:56:53,176 --> 00:56:56,116 The administration has been working very scrupulously 1354 00:56:56,112 --> 00:56:57,812 with members of the 1355 00:56:57,814 --> 00:56:59,814 committee and with the intelligence community 1356 00:56:59,816 --> 00:57:01,816 to declassify as much of that report as possible. 1357 00:57:01,818 --> 00:57:04,058 And the reason for that is simply because 1358 00:57:04,053 --> 00:57:06,593 that actually would further the goal that the President 1359 00:57:06,589 --> 00:57:08,859 himself has laid out, which is he does believe 1360 00:57:08,858 --> 00:57:12,498 it's important for the intelligence community and 1361 00:57:12,495 --> 00:57:14,495 for the committee and for the federal government 1362 00:57:14,497 --> 00:57:16,567 to be as transparent as possible with the American 1363 00:57:16,566 --> 00:57:18,836 people and with the world about what exactly 1364 00:57:18,835 --> 00:57:22,105 transpired, specifically so that we can make sure 1365 00:57:22,105 --> 00:57:23,545 that it never happens again. 1366 00:57:23,540 --> 00:57:29,010 So I don't contest that there -- as with so many 1367 00:57:29,012 --> 00:57:31,552 of these issues, that there are a variety of opinions. 1368 00:57:31,548 --> 00:57:34,948 But when it comes down to the administration's view, 1369 00:57:34,951 --> 00:57:37,651 specifically the White House's view, our view 1370 00:57:37,654 --> 00:57:40,524 is that as much of this report as possible 1371 00:57:40,523 --> 00:57:41,963 should be declassified. 1372 00:57:41,958 --> 00:57:43,958 Now, we of course need to make sure that we're 1373 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,960 taking the necessary precautions to ensure 1374 00:57:45,962 --> 00:57:50,102 the safety of our men and women in the intelligence 1375 00:57:50,099 --> 00:57:52,099 community, and we certainly wouldn't want 1376 00:57:52,101 --> 00:57:54,101 to release anything that would put them at risk. 1377 00:57:54,103 --> 00:57:57,703 But absent that, we believe as much of this 1378 00:57:57,707 --> 00:58:00,007 information, as much of this story as possible, 1379 00:58:00,009 --> 00:58:03,579 should be told so that the American people can have 1380 00:58:03,580 --> 00:58:06,020 a clear assessment of what exactly happened, 1381 00:58:06,015 --> 00:58:08,555 and that we can be crystal clear about what our values 1382 00:58:08,551 --> 00:58:11,491 are as Americans and be sure that regardless 1383 00:58:11,487 --> 00:58:14,727 of circumstance, that that never happens again. 1384 00:58:14,724 --> 00:58:15,724 The Press: So would you say 1385 00:58:15,725 --> 00:58:18,425 that the White House wanted more of this made available 1386 00:58:18,428 --> 00:58:20,428 to the public than is being made available? 1387 00:58:20,430 --> 00:58:22,430 Mr. Earnest: What I can say, Chris, 1388 00:58:22,432 --> 00:58:24,432 is that the White House is satisfied that the concerns -- 1389 00:58:24,434 --> 00:58:29,674 or that the agreement that's been reached between 1390 00:58:29,672 --> 00:58:33,742 the committee and the intelligence community 1391 00:58:33,743 --> 00:58:36,183 both take into account the need to protect 1392 00:58:36,179 --> 00:58:38,719 our men and women in the intelligence community, 1393 00:58:38,715 --> 00:58:40,985 but also to be as transparent 1394 00:58:40,984 --> 00:58:43,224 as we possibly can with the American people 1395 00:58:43,219 --> 00:58:44,219 about what exactly happened. 1396 00:58:44,220 --> 00:58:46,220 The Press: So it would not be correct 1397 00:58:46,222 --> 00:58:48,222 to characterize this saying that the White House 1398 00:58:48,224 --> 00:58:50,224 would like more of this made public? 1399 00:58:50,226 --> 00:58:51,226 Mr. Earnest: Well, 1400 00:58:51,227 --> 00:58:53,227 I think what I would say is that the White House has been, 1401 00:58:53,229 --> 00:58:55,229 from the beginning, pushing for the release of this report 1402 00:58:55,231 --> 00:58:58,301 and pushing for as much content as possible to be released. 1403 00:59:01,204 --> 00:59:03,204 Now, given the classified nature of these programs, 1404 00:59:03,206 --> 00:59:04,176 there are limits on that. 1405 00:59:04,173 --> 00:59:06,873 But that has been the posture of the White House 1406 00:59:06,876 --> 00:59:10,676 from the beginning for years, and that is why 1407 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,150 the White House has I think been pretty effective 1408 00:59:13,149 --> 00:59:15,989 in trying to work with both the committee and 1409 00:59:15,985 --> 00:59:18,485 the intelligence community to resolve their concerns 1410 00:59:18,488 --> 00:59:19,688 and get this report released. 1411 00:59:19,689 --> 00:59:21,729 And that's why we're gratified that 1412 00:59:21,724 --> 00:59:24,124 the committee has made the decision to release 1413 00:59:24,127 --> 00:59:25,127 this report tomorrow. 1414 00:59:25,128 --> 00:59:26,128 The Press: And on 1415 00:59:26,129 --> 00:59:28,129 the hostage rescue mission -- and we've talked about 1416 00:59:28,131 --> 00:59:30,531 this before in this room, about the President's position, 1417 00:59:30,533 --> 00:59:33,073 the White House position on not paying ransom. 1418 00:59:33,069 --> 00:59:36,439 And yet, when you have the combination of situations 1419 00:59:36,439 --> 00:59:39,439 where there have been hostages who have been 1420 00:59:39,442 --> 00:59:41,712 successfully freed, being paid either covertly 1421 00:59:41,711 --> 00:59:45,081 by governments or by family and friends who have 1422 00:59:45,081 --> 00:59:47,321 raised money, in the failed missions 1423 00:59:47,317 --> 00:59:52,017 what can you say to families who look at that and say, 1424 00:59:52,021 --> 00:59:56,261 this is my opportunity to save the life of my loved one? 1425 00:59:56,259 --> 00:59:57,699 Mr. Earnest: Well, Chris, 1426 00:59:57,694 --> 01:00:00,394 the families who find themselves in this situation 1427 01:00:00,396 --> 01:00:03,066 are facing a terrible choice. 1428 01:00:03,066 --> 01:00:06,736 And the kind of pain and anguish that a parent 1429 01:00:06,736 --> 01:00:10,776 must feel about their son or daughter being held 1430 01:00:10,773 --> 01:00:13,573 against their will by terrorists as a hostage 1431 01:00:13,576 --> 01:00:15,016 is unthinkable. 1432 01:00:15,011 --> 01:00:19,081 And it's difficult to imagine being 1433 01:00:19,082 --> 01:00:23,522 in a situation like that, and that is why you have seen 1434 01:00:23,519 --> 01:00:27,729 such significant expressions of sympathy 1435 01:00:27,724 --> 01:00:30,494 for families that are in that position. 1436 01:00:30,493 --> 01:00:32,993 That is also why you've seen strong support 1437 01:00:32,996 --> 01:00:34,996 from the federal government for those families. 1438 01:00:34,998 --> 01:00:36,998 And that's also why you've seen the President 1439 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,070 of the United States expend significant capital 1440 01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:43,009 and time and energy to try to rescue those individuals; 1441 01:00:43,006 --> 01:00:45,706 two different rescue raids ordered -- clandestine 1442 01:00:45,708 --> 01:00:47,908 rescue raids ordered in just the last couple 1443 01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:51,650 of weeks to try to secure the safe return of Mr. Somers. 1444 01:00:51,647 --> 01:00:54,047 This is something that the administration and the 1445 01:00:54,050 --> 01:00:57,120 President himself is personally invested in. 1446 01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:03,130 And there is no question that we are -- that 1447 01:01:03,126 --> 01:01:06,096 that kind of a choice that's facing an individual family 1448 01:01:06,095 --> 01:01:07,065 is gut-wrenching. 1449 01:01:07,063 --> 01:01:09,063 At the same time, as policymakers, 1450 01:01:09,065 --> 01:01:14,835 it's the responsibility of members of this administration 1451 01:01:14,837 --> 01:01:17,777 to lay out policies that are in the best interest 1452 01:01:17,774 --> 01:01:19,774 of the country and the security of every American citizen. 1453 01:01:19,776 --> 01:01:23,476 And paying ransom to terrorist organizations, 1454 01:01:23,479 --> 01:01:30,489 essentially financing the ability of these terrorist 1455 01:01:30,486 --> 01:01:34,286 organizations to carry out other hostage-takings, 1456 01:01:34,290 --> 01:01:36,290 is not in the best interest of the United States 1457 01:01:36,292 --> 01:01:38,862 and it's not in the best interest of our citizens. 1458 01:01:38,861 --> 01:01:43,031 And again, that in no way is intended to diminish 1459 01:01:43,032 --> 01:01:45,202 the difficult choice and the anguish 1460 01:01:45,201 --> 01:01:48,301 that so many families must feel. 1461 01:01:48,304 --> 01:01:52,144 But as a policy matter, there's no doubt 1462 01:01:52,141 --> 01:01:56,411 that not paying ransom is clearly in the best interest 1463 01:01:56,412 --> 01:01:58,912 of the safety and security of the American people. 1464 01:01:58,915 --> 01:01:59,915 Mr. Viqueira. 1465 01:01:59,916 --> 01:02:00,916 The Press: Thank you. 1466 01:02:00,917 --> 01:02:02,917 Could I take it back to racial profiling 1467 01:02:02,919 --> 01:02:04,589 for just a moment, please? 1468 01:02:04,587 --> 01:02:06,587 In the parlance of Washington, they call them 1469 01:02:06,589 --> 01:02:09,789 carve-outs -- I think the rest of us would call them 1470 01:02:09,792 --> 01:02:11,792 exceptions -- for border security, 1471 01:02:11,794 --> 01:02:13,764 airport security and the Secret Service. 1472 01:02:13,763 --> 01:02:15,763 Civil libertarians are angry about that. 1473 01:02:15,765 --> 01:02:17,765 They say there's a big loophole, particularly 1474 01:02:17,767 --> 01:02:19,907 leaving vulnerable Latinos and religious minorities. 1475 01:02:19,902 --> 01:02:21,302 What's your response? 1476 01:02:21,304 --> 01:02:23,874 Mr. Earnest: Well, my understanding, Mike 1477 01:02:23,873 --> 01:02:26,673 -- and you should check with the Department of Justice on this -- 1478 01:02:26,676 --> 01:02:29,116 but it's my understanding that this new guidance would 1479 01:02:29,112 --> 01:02:32,182 actually be applied on top of those other what previously had 1480 01:02:32,181 --> 01:02:35,481 been described as carve-outs; that there are additional -- 1481 01:02:35,485 --> 01:02:39,785 there's a higher threshold level in terms 1482 01:02:39,789 --> 01:02:41,789 of protections that are -- civil liberty protections 1483 01:02:41,791 --> 01:02:42,791 that are in place. 1484 01:02:42,792 --> 01:02:44,792 The Press: But exceptions still remain 1485 01:02:44,794 --> 01:02:46,794 for those three areas is my understanding. 1486 01:02:46,796 --> 01:02:47,796 Mr. Earnest: There are 1487 01:02:47,797 --> 01:02:50,537 some narrow exceptions, but they were narrowed 1488 01:02:50,533 --> 01:02:52,033 by this new guidance. 1489 01:02:52,034 --> 01:02:56,844 And the way that these policies are implemented 1490 01:02:56,839 --> 01:02:58,979 is focused on making sure that we're balancing 1491 01:02:58,975 --> 01:03:02,645 the need to protect civil liberties of the American 1492 01:03:02,645 --> 01:03:05,415 people, but also trying to protect 1493 01:03:05,414 --> 01:03:06,484 the American people. 1494 01:03:06,482 --> 01:03:09,582 This is a dynamic that particularly plays out 1495 01:03:09,585 --> 01:03:12,655 in securing the transportation sector; 1496 01:03:12,655 --> 01:03:15,055 that we want to make sure that we are protecting 1497 01:03:15,057 --> 01:03:17,127 the civil liberties of the traveling public, 1498 01:03:17,126 --> 01:03:19,526 but at the same time we also need to preserve 1499 01:03:19,529 --> 01:03:22,129 the overall security of the transportation system. 1500 01:03:22,131 --> 01:03:25,901 And there are complicated ways in which we can apply 1501 01:03:25,902 --> 01:03:28,872 this policy that balances both significant concerns. 1502 01:03:28,871 --> 01:03:30,171 The Press: So, in other words, 1503 01:03:30,173 --> 01:03:33,513 racial profiling -- some element of racial profiling is necessary 1504 01:03:33,509 --> 01:03:36,149 when it really matters -- at airports 1505 01:03:36,145 --> 01:03:37,945 and with the Secret Service? 1506 01:03:37,947 --> 01:03:39,047 Mr. Earnest: No. 1507 01:03:39,048 --> 01:03:42,018 The federal government does not condone racial profiling. 1508 01:03:42,018 --> 01:03:44,018 That is the policy of the administration. 1509 01:03:44,020 --> 01:03:46,020 We do not condone racial profiling. 1510 01:03:46,022 --> 01:03:48,022 And that is something that is not allowed 1511 01:03:48,024 --> 01:03:49,024 by law enforcement officers. 1512 01:03:49,025 --> 01:03:52,965 But what we also have to do is we also have 1513 01:03:52,962 --> 01:03:57,432 to be in a position where we are allowing law enforcement 1514 01:03:57,433 --> 01:04:01,503 officials to make some risk-based assessments 1515 01:04:01,504 --> 01:04:05,674 to balance the protection of the American people 1516 01:04:05,675 --> 01:04:07,675 with the protection of civil liberties. 1517 01:04:07,677 --> 01:04:09,107 And these are complicated. 1518 01:04:09,111 --> 01:04:12,311 Many of them are dependent on the exact situation 1519 01:04:12,315 --> 01:04:14,985 that you're talking about, which is why 1520 01:04:14,984 --> 01:04:17,084 the implementation of this new guidance as it relates 1521 01:04:17,086 --> 01:04:19,086 to racial profiling is accompanied 1522 01:04:19,088 --> 01:04:22,388 by a significant commitment of funds to ensure 1523 01:04:22,391 --> 01:04:24,391 that our law enforcement officials are getting 1524 01:04:24,393 --> 01:04:26,393 the training that they need to implement this policy. 1525 01:04:26,395 --> 01:04:27,395 Carol. 1526 01:04:27,396 --> 01:04:28,766 The Press: On the release 1527 01:04:28,764 --> 01:04:33,234 of the report -- given that the President feels so strongly, 1528 01:04:33,236 --> 01:04:37,306 as he said he does, about this and the importance 1529 01:04:37,306 --> 01:04:42,176 that he thinks this has, should we expect that he will speak 1530 01:04:42,178 --> 01:04:43,778 publicly once it's released? 1531 01:04:43,779 --> 01:04:46,219 And generally, what does he see 1532 01:04:46,215 --> 01:04:49,885 as his responsibility in terms of his public posture 1533 01:04:49,885 --> 01:04:52,325 on this given that it's obviously 1534 01:04:52,321 --> 01:04:55,561 going to incite perhaps some violence and passion 1535 01:04:55,558 --> 01:04:58,398 on the other side of the debate? 1536 01:04:58,394 --> 01:05:00,234 Mr. Earnest: Well, Carol, 1537 01:05:00,229 --> 01:05:02,229 the President has made his voice heard 1538 01:05:02,231 --> 01:05:04,231 insofar as he has strongly supported 1539 01:05:04,233 --> 01:05:07,733 the release of a declassified version of this report. 1540 01:05:07,737 --> 01:05:10,737 That's something the President has long 1541 01:05:10,740 --> 01:05:12,740 advocated since the earliest days 1542 01:05:12,742 --> 01:05:13,742 of his administration. 1543 01:05:13,743 --> 01:05:15,743 He, after all, I believe on the second day 1544 01:05:15,745 --> 01:05:17,885 of his administration took the action that was necessary 1545 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,380 to ensure that these techniques 1546 01:05:20,383 --> 01:05:22,383 were no longer being carried out. 1547 01:05:22,385 --> 01:05:25,025 So the President does have strong views about this. 1548 01:05:25,021 --> 01:05:27,021 He's made those strong views known 1549 01:05:27,023 --> 01:05:28,023 on previous occasions. 1550 01:05:28,024 --> 01:05:30,024 I don't anticipate that the President 1551 01:05:30,026 --> 01:05:33,196 will make a specific statement on this tomorrow, but we'll see 1552 01:05:33,195 --> 01:05:35,195 if we can find a way to get you some kind of reaction -- 1553 01:05:35,197 --> 01:05:39,137 either a written statement from him or some kind of readout 1554 01:05:39,135 --> 01:05:41,135 that I may be able to provide in the gaggle. 1555 01:05:41,137 --> 01:05:42,307 The Press: And then also 1556 01:05:42,305 --> 01:05:46,275 on the -- there's a report that the administration -- 1557 01:05:46,275 --> 01:05:51,845 a note by the U.N. that Iran has been trying to procure 1558 01:05:51,847 --> 01:05:55,087 equipment for its heavy reactor in Arak. 1559 01:05:55,084 --> 01:05:58,354 Is that something that you can confirm? 1560 01:05:58,354 --> 01:06:00,654 And if so, if that is the case, 1561 01:06:00,656 --> 01:06:02,656 doesn't that violate the agreement? 1562 01:06:02,658 --> 01:06:03,828 Mr. Earnest: I have to admit, 1563 01:06:03,826 --> 01:06:06,466 Carol, I haven't seen those reports, so we'll look into it. 1564 01:06:06,462 --> 01:06:09,762 One of the conditions of the ongoing negotiations 1565 01:06:09,765 --> 01:06:13,365 between Iran and the P5-plus-1 has been 1566 01:06:13,369 --> 01:06:15,839 that Iran not attempt to make significant 1567 01:06:15,838 --> 01:06:19,138 new investments at the heavy water facility at Arak. 1568 01:06:19,141 --> 01:06:22,911 So let me refer you to one of my colleagues 1569 01:06:22,912 --> 01:06:25,452 at the NSC who may be more familiar with that report 1570 01:06:25,448 --> 01:06:29,288 and can better describe what impact that report 1571 01:06:29,285 --> 01:06:32,355 may have on the baseline agreement that we've discussed. 1572 01:06:32,355 --> 01:06:33,355 The Press: Josh? 1573 01:06:33,356 --> 01:06:34,356 Mr. Earnest: So, JC, 1574 01:06:34,357 --> 01:06:35,357 I'll give you the last one. 1575 01:06:35,358 --> 01:06:36,358 The Press: Thank you, Josh. 1576 01:06:36,359 --> 01:06:38,359 No matter how you cut it, this morning the President 1577 01:06:38,361 --> 01:06:40,361 met with the future King of the United Kingdom, 1578 01:06:40,363 --> 01:06:44,003 one of the greatest allies America has traditionally had, 1579 01:06:43,999 --> 01:06:46,839 fighting against common enemies. 1580 01:06:46,836 --> 01:06:51,136 Three enemies come to my mind as we spoke today 1581 01:06:51,140 --> 01:06:54,140 about al Qaeda, ISIL and Ebola. 1582 01:06:54,143 --> 01:06:56,713 Did any of those topics come up with His Royal Highness 1583 01:06:56,712 --> 01:06:58,182 and the President this morning? 1584 01:06:58,180 --> 01:06:59,180 Mr. Earnest: JC, 1585 01:06:59,181 --> 01:07:01,181 I can tell you that the President was pleased 1586 01:07:01,183 --> 01:07:03,183 to welcome Prince William, the Duke of Cambridge, 1587 01:07:03,185 --> 01:07:05,185 to the White House this morning. 1588 01:07:05,187 --> 01:07:07,157 The Duke of Cambridge also met earlier 1589 01:07:07,156 --> 01:07:09,156 with Vice President Joe Biden and Dr. Jill Biden. 1590 01:07:09,158 --> 01:07:11,158 The President and the Duke of Cambridge discussed 1591 01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,160 the long and special relationship 1592 01:07:13,162 --> 01:07:15,162 between the U.K. and the United States. 1593 01:07:15,164 --> 01:07:17,164 In addition, the Duke of Cambridge briefed 1594 01:07:17,166 --> 01:07:19,166 the President on his initiative to combat 1595 01:07:19,168 --> 01:07:21,168 the illegal wildlife trade, an issue to which the 1596 01:07:21,170 --> 01:07:23,170 President and this administration 1597 01:07:23,172 --> 01:07:24,172 are strongly committed. 1598 01:07:24,173 --> 01:07:26,173 The Vice President and Dr. Biden discussed 1599 01:07:26,175 --> 01:07:28,175 our bilateral relationship and global challenges, 1600 01:07:28,177 --> 01:07:30,177 such as the effort to degrade and ultimately destroy ISIL, 1601 01:07:30,179 --> 01:07:32,179 as well as efforts to support our two countries' 1602 01:07:32,181 --> 01:07:34,181 wounded warriors through the Invictus Games, 1603 01:07:34,183 --> 01:07:37,853 which Dr. Biden attended earlier this year in London. 1604 01:07:37,853 --> 01:07:39,853 I'm not able to determine at this point whether 1605 01:07:39,855 --> 01:07:42,195 or not the President had the opportunity to discuss 1606 01:07:42,191 --> 01:07:44,191 tonight's basketball game with Prince William. 1607 01:07:44,193 --> 01:07:46,993 I know that the President is certainly envious of 1608 01:07:46,996 --> 01:07:49,796 the Prince's opportunity to take in a game between 1609 01:07:49,799 --> 01:07:54,039 the Nets and the LeBron James-led Cleveland Cavaliers. 1610 01:07:54,036 --> 01:07:55,036 Thanks a lot, everybody. 1611 01:07:55,037 --> 01:07:57,037 Have a good afternoon.