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1 00:00:00,860 --> 00:00:02,560 Mr. Earnest: Good afternoon, everybody. 2 00:00:02,569 --> 00:00:03,839 TGIF. 3 00:00:04,838 --> 00:00:05,808 It's nice to see all of you. 4 00:00:05,805 --> 00:00:07,805 I don't actually have any announcements at the 5 00:00:07,807 --> 00:00:09,807 beginning, so we can go ahead and go straight to questions. 6 00:00:09,809 --> 00:00:11,809 The Press: Okay, I'd like to start by asking 7 00:00:11,811 --> 00:00:13,811 a couple questions about the Islamic State hostage situation. 8 00:00:13,813 --> 00:00:16,753 First of all, do you have any update on the fate 9 00:00:16,750 --> 00:00:19,120 of the Japanese journalist or the Jordanian pilot? 10 00:00:19,119 --> 00:00:21,859 Mr. Earnest: I don't have any updates, Nedra, 11 00:00:21,855 --> 00:00:24,225 but I would encourage you to check with either the 12 00:00:24,224 --> 00:00:26,224 Jordanian government or the Japanese government 13 00:00:26,226 --> 00:00:29,296 who could give you an update on their efforts 14 00:00:29,295 --> 00:00:31,295 to secure the release of their citizens. 15 00:00:31,297 --> 00:00:33,297 The Press: Because some people in Jordan have been 16 00:00:33,299 --> 00:00:35,399 expressing the opinion that this pilot is paying 17 00:00:35,402 --> 00:00:39,002 the price for a war that they shouldn't be involved in. 18 00:00:39,005 --> 00:00:43,105 Is the President at all concerned that this could 19 00:00:43,109 --> 00:00:46,309 reduce public opinion within the Arab world or 20 00:00:46,312 --> 00:00:48,782 the U.S.-Arab coalition? 21 00:00:48,782 --> 00:00:49,952 Mr. Earnest: Well, Nedra, I think the reason that 22 00:00:49,949 --> 00:00:52,419 we have had tremendous success in building 23 00:00:52,419 --> 00:00:55,789 a coalition of more than 60 nations to take the fight 24 00:00:55,789 --> 00:00:59,129 to ISIL and execute the President's strategy 25 00:00:59,125 --> 00:01:01,695 of degrading and ultimately destroying ISIL, is that 26 00:01:01,694 --> 00:01:04,294 nations around the world reflect the risk that 27 00:01:04,297 --> 00:01:06,867 ISIL poses to nations in the region. 28 00:01:06,866 --> 00:01:10,506 And particularly, a nation like Jordan understands 29 00:01:10,503 --> 00:01:12,673 the risk that they face from extremists. 30 00:01:12,672 --> 00:01:16,372 And there are ambitions that have been articulated 31 00:01:16,376 --> 00:01:19,546 by ISIL to expand their footprint. 32 00:01:19,546 --> 00:01:22,516 And that is why it was so important for countries 33 00:01:22,515 --> 00:01:25,285 from around the world to come together to face down 34 00:01:25,285 --> 00:01:26,285 this threat. 35 00:01:26,286 --> 00:01:28,586 And as the President was building this coalition, 36 00:01:28,588 --> 00:01:31,728 there was some doubt expressed about how much 37 00:01:31,724 --> 00:01:34,994 success he would have in enlisting the support 38 00:01:34,994 --> 00:01:36,964 of other Arab nations in this fight. 39 00:01:36,963 --> 00:01:39,133 And we are pleased that nations like Jordan, 40 00:01:39,132 --> 00:01:42,702 like Saudi Arabia, like the UAE aren't just ready to stand 41 00:01:42,702 --> 00:01:45,342 with the United States in this endeavor 42 00:01:45,338 --> 00:01:48,878 to counteract, degrade, and ultimately destroy ISIL, 43 00:01:48,875 --> 00:01:50,875 they're actually joining the fight. 44 00:01:50,877 --> 00:01:54,617 And we do see members of the military -- 45 00:01:54,614 --> 00:01:57,354 from Jordan, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia and others -- 46 00:01:57,350 --> 00:01:59,790 who are flying alongside American pilots, 47 00:01:59,786 --> 00:02:01,786 carrying out strikes against ISIL. 48 00:02:01,788 --> 00:02:03,788 And that, I do think, sends a clear signal 49 00:02:03,790 --> 00:02:07,030 to our enemies and to the world that the world 50 00:02:07,026 --> 00:02:09,026 is united to face down this threat. 51 00:02:09,028 --> 00:02:11,468 The Press: On another topic -- did the President 52 00:02:11,464 --> 00:02:14,034 have any reaction to his former opponent 53 00:02:14,033 --> 00:02:17,733 Mitt Romney's decision not to seek the presidency again? 54 00:02:17,737 --> 00:02:19,277 Mr. Earnest: I did not have an opportunity 55 00:02:19,272 --> 00:02:21,472 to speak to the President since Governor Romney 56 00:02:21,474 --> 00:02:22,474 made his announcement. 57 00:02:22,475 --> 00:02:25,915 But certainly Governor Romney is a man of great 58 00:02:25,912 --> 00:02:29,282 faith and a man who has tremendous loyalty and 59 00:02:29,282 --> 00:02:31,582 commitment to his country, and that is something that 60 00:02:31,584 --> 00:02:33,784 is worthy of our respect. 61 00:02:33,786 --> 00:02:35,786 I confident that the announcement that he made 62 00:02:35,788 --> 00:02:36,788 today was a difficult one; 63 00:02:36,789 --> 00:02:38,789 I think he acknowledged as much. 64 00:02:38,791 --> 00:02:41,361 But it's also an intensely personal decision that 65 00:02:41,361 --> 00:02:45,331 candidates and their families make. 66 00:02:45,331 --> 00:02:46,631 The other thing that I'll say is he did say 67 00:02:46,633 --> 00:02:49,903 in recent days that he hoped that we could have more 68 00:02:49,903 --> 00:02:51,903 robust debate in this country about what 69 00:02:51,905 --> 00:02:55,175 we could do to put in place policies that benefit 70 00:02:55,174 --> 00:02:57,514 middle-class families; that he was articulating 71 00:02:57,510 --> 00:03:01,350 a concern that he had that we've seen those at the 72 00:03:01,347 --> 00:03:04,847 top benefit quite a bit from our economic 73 00:03:04,851 --> 00:03:06,851 recovery, but not as much benefit being directed 74 00:03:06,853 --> 00:03:07,853 to middle-class families. 75 00:03:07,854 --> 00:03:09,854 And that obviously is a sentiment that the 76 00:03:09,856 --> 00:03:11,856 President himself has shared. 77 00:03:11,858 --> 00:03:13,858 So I'm confident that Governor Romney will 78 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:20,100 be someone whose endorsement will be sought by other 79 00:03:20,099 --> 00:03:21,839 Republican candidates. 80 00:03:21,834 --> 00:03:25,004 And I'm hopeful that Governor Romney will use 81 00:03:25,004 --> 00:03:29,314 that influence to try to elevate the debate and 82 00:03:29,309 --> 00:03:31,709 have more attention and focus on policies that 83 00:03:31,711 --> 00:03:34,051 actually benefit middle-class families. 84 00:03:34,047 --> 00:03:36,947 And surely we're going to have disagreements about 85 00:03:36,950 --> 00:03:38,020 the best way to do that. 86 00:03:38,017 --> 00:03:40,017 But if that can be at least be our starting 87 00:03:40,019 --> 00:03:43,119 point, I think we would feel like we've made some progress. 88 00:03:43,122 --> 00:03:45,122 The Press: In his remarks last night, 89 00:03:45,124 --> 00:03:47,994 the President seemed to relish a debate over poverty 90 00:03:47,994 --> 00:03:50,594 in the United States with Romney. 91 00:03:50,597 --> 00:03:51,767 Is that the case? 92 00:03:51,764 --> 00:03:53,134 Or do you think maybe he'd be disappointed not 93 00:03:53,132 --> 00:03:54,532 to be able to have that debate now? 94 00:03:54,534 --> 00:03:55,364 Mr. Earnest: No, I don't think the President 95 00:03:55,368 --> 00:03:56,838 is disappointed. 96 00:03:56,836 --> 00:03:57,636 Thank you, Nedra. 97 00:03:57,637 --> 00:03:58,507 Jeff. 98 00:03:58,504 --> 00:03:59,674 The Press: Following up on that, he seemed, 99 00:03:59,672 --> 00:04:01,412 the President, last night to be tweaking the Governor 100 00:04:01,407 --> 00:04:03,547 a little bit without naming him by name. 101 00:04:03,543 --> 00:04:05,283 Was that his intention? 102 00:04:05,278 --> 00:04:06,278 Mr. Earnest: No. 103 00:04:06,279 --> 00:04:10,379 Again, I think that his intent was to note that 104 00:04:10,383 --> 00:04:12,923 we are seeing more rhetoric from Republicans 105 00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:16,059 indicating what was a previously unstated 106 00:04:16,055 --> 00:04:20,055 concern for people who aren't at the top. 107 00:04:20,059 --> 00:04:21,499 And the President certainly welcomes 108 00:04:21,494 --> 00:04:23,094 their interest in these issues. 109 00:04:23,096 --> 00:04:27,666 And as I mentioned, I think Governor Romney 110 00:04:27,667 --> 00:04:31,607 is genuine when he's articulating that concern. 111 00:04:31,604 --> 00:04:34,344 The problem is -- and this is something that we've 112 00:04:34,340 --> 00:04:36,210 seen too often from the Republican side -- 113 00:04:36,209 --> 00:04:37,679 that they've essentially used the middle class 114 00:04:37,677 --> 00:04:40,017 as a talking point and not actually put forward 115 00:04:40,013 --> 00:04:41,913 policies that benefit the middle class. 116 00:04:41,914 --> 00:04:44,614 So again, to the extent that Governor Romney can 117 00:04:44,617 --> 00:04:47,187 use his influence to try to change the fundamentals 118 00:04:47,186 --> 00:04:50,086 of this debate in a way that will actually focus 119 00:04:50,089 --> 00:04:51,959 on what we can do to benefit the middle class, 120 00:04:51,958 --> 00:04:53,628 and those who aren't in the top 1 percent -- 121 00:04:53,626 --> 00:04:56,466 which is where so many of the Republican policies seem 122 00:04:56,462 --> 00:04:59,232 to be aimed -- then that would be a really good thing. 123 00:04:59,232 --> 00:05:01,602 And it certainly would be a way for Governor Romney 124 00:05:01,601 --> 00:05:03,601 -- although he has indicated that he's not 125 00:05:03,603 --> 00:05:05,603 going to be a candidate -- a way that he could 126 00:05:05,605 --> 00:05:07,605 substantially contribute to this debate. 127 00:05:07,607 --> 00:05:09,607 The Press: And on a couple of other topics. 128 00:05:09,609 --> 00:05:14,049 Russia's Central Bank cut its interest rate today 129 00:05:14,047 --> 00:05:15,787 in reaction to the possibility of a recession 130 00:05:15,782 --> 00:05:17,952 in the country. 131 00:05:17,950 --> 00:05:20,090 You've talked a lot about the effectiveness of sanctions. 132 00:05:20,086 --> 00:05:21,626 Do you have any reaction to that? 133 00:05:21,621 --> 00:05:24,091 And can you give us any update on potentially more 134 00:05:24,090 --> 00:05:25,930 sanctions coming down the road? 135 00:05:25,925 --> 00:05:31,395 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jeff, I won't comment extensively 136 00:05:31,397 --> 00:05:35,297 on the actions that were taken by another central bank. 137 00:05:35,301 --> 00:05:38,771 But I can say as a general matter that I also noticed 138 00:05:38,771 --> 00:05:41,771 that, within the last week or so, the Central Bank 139 00:05:41,774 --> 00:05:43,774 had actually raised interest rates 140 00:05:43,776 --> 00:05:46,916 dramatically to try to protect the value of their own currency. 141 00:05:46,913 --> 00:05:48,953 I think what this illustrates is, 142 00:05:48,948 --> 00:05:51,218 it illustrates that there is an element of chaos in the 143 00:05:51,217 --> 00:05:54,587 Russian economy, and some of that is a result of the 144 00:05:54,587 --> 00:05:57,287 international sanctions regime that this 145 00:05:57,290 --> 00:06:00,290 President has led the implementation of. 146 00:06:00,293 --> 00:06:03,663 And that is an indication that there are specific 147 00:06:03,663 --> 00:06:09,733 and clear economic costs associated with 148 00:06:10,236 --> 00:06:13,206 President Putin's expedition into eastern Ukraine; 149 00:06:13,206 --> 00:06:16,176 that continuing to violate the territorial integrity 150 00:06:16,175 --> 00:06:21,085 of one of their neighbors is having an economic impact 151 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,950 -- a negative one -- on Russia. 152 00:06:22,949 --> 00:06:26,889 And as the days go by, and as Russia continues 153 00:06:26,886 --> 00:06:28,856 to refuse to live up to previous commitments that 154 00:06:28,855 --> 00:06:31,055 they have made to deescalate this conflict, 155 00:06:31,057 --> 00:06:34,097 those costs are only going to intensify. 156 00:06:34,093 --> 00:06:36,993 And we're hopeful that as these costs mount, 157 00:06:36,996 --> 00:06:40,566 that it will prompt the President, President Putin, 158 00:06:40,566 --> 00:06:41,806 to reevaluate his strategy. 159 00:06:41,801 --> 00:06:45,401 The Press: Peace talks over Ukraine have also 160 00:06:45,404 --> 00:06:48,204 stopped before they began because of additional 161 00:06:48,207 --> 00:06:49,847 deaths of civilians there. 162 00:06:49,842 --> 00:06:51,082 Is the White House watching that? 163 00:06:51,077 --> 00:06:53,447 Do you have any specific reaction to those deaths? 164 00:06:53,446 --> 00:06:55,116 Mr. Earnest: We are continuing to monitor 165 00:06:55,114 --> 00:06:58,884 the situation in Ukraine, and we have seen repeatedly 166 00:06:58,885 --> 00:07:00,885 that the Russians have been unwilling to live 167 00:07:00,887 --> 00:07:03,787 up to their agreements, and that a lot of these deaths 168 00:07:03,790 --> 00:07:07,230 of civilians are the result of military actions 169 00:07:07,226 --> 00:07:09,466 that are taken by separatists that are 170 00:07:09,462 --> 00:07:13,132 supported and armed by the Russian military. 171 00:07:13,132 --> 00:07:16,202 And that is an indication that we need to change the cycle. 172 00:07:16,202 --> 00:07:20,502 And we are hopeful that as the international 173 00:07:20,506 --> 00:07:22,506 community continues to show their resolve, and 174 00:07:22,508 --> 00:07:26,148 as the costs continue to pile up on the Russian economy, 175 00:07:26,145 --> 00:07:28,485 that President Putin will ultimately change course. 176 00:07:28,481 --> 00:07:31,321 The Press: And finally, the Greek government 177 00:07:31,317 --> 00:07:34,157 is having meetings this week. 178 00:07:34,153 --> 00:07:36,293 The White House released a readout the other day 179 00:07:36,289 --> 00:07:38,759 of the President's discussion with the Prime Minister. 180 00:07:38,758 --> 00:07:40,928 What's the White House's reaction to the new 181 00:07:40,927 --> 00:07:43,697 government's statement today that it will not 182 00:07:43,696 --> 00:07:46,696 cooperate with the IMF and European lenders about 183 00:07:46,699 --> 00:07:48,869 extending its aid package? 184 00:07:48,868 --> 00:07:50,308 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jeff, I don't have a specific 185 00:07:50,303 --> 00:07:51,433 reaction to that announcement. 186 00:07:51,437 --> 00:07:53,507 I call tell you that, in general, the President 187 00:07:53,506 --> 00:07:56,576 telephoned Prime Minister Tsipras earlier this week, 188 00:07:56,576 --> 00:07:59,116 because the United States for a number of years now 189 00:07:59,111 --> 00:08:01,451 has been working closely with the EU and the Greeks 190 00:08:01,447 --> 00:08:04,417 to try to resolve so much of the financial and 191 00:08:04,417 --> 00:08:07,387 fiscal instability that we see over in Europe. 192 00:08:07,386 --> 00:08:10,686 And that does have implications and an impact on the 193 00:08:10,690 --> 00:08:13,490 U.S. economy and on the global economy, of course. 194 00:08:13,492 --> 00:08:15,492 So we're going to continue to work closely with the 195 00:08:15,494 --> 00:08:19,834 EU, and that means engaging with the new 196 00:08:19,832 --> 00:08:22,532 political leaders in Greece to try to resolve 197 00:08:22,535 --> 00:08:26,005 these differences and get Greece and Europe and the 198 00:08:26,005 --> 00:08:32,115 global economy back on a path toward growth and 199 00:08:32,111 --> 00:08:34,111 prosperity, because that, ultimately, is going 200 00:08:34,113 --> 00:08:37,813 to be in the best interest of the U.S. economy. 201 00:08:37,817 --> 00:08:39,257 Justin. 202 00:08:39,252 --> 00:08:41,652 The Press: First I wanted to ask about GDP. 203 00:08:41,654 --> 00:08:46,524 It came in a little lower than expectations today. 204 00:08:46,525 --> 00:08:49,465 I know the President has spoken a lot recently 205 00:08:49,462 --> 00:08:52,402 about how kind of promising economic signs 206 00:08:52,398 --> 00:08:55,638 are the reason that with this budget we can invest 207 00:08:55,635 --> 00:08:57,835 more in sort of all his priorities. 208 00:08:57,837 --> 00:09:00,177 Is there any concern that some of the international 209 00:09:00,172 --> 00:09:02,572 factors that are dragging on now the U.S. 210 00:09:02,575 --> 00:09:05,345 economy are going to undermine the President's 211 00:09:05,344 --> 00:09:07,044 efforts to sort of make that argument? 212 00:09:07,046 --> 00:09:09,846 Mr. Earnest: Justin, I'll tell you that that may end 213 00:09:09,849 --> 00:09:12,689 up being true, but I don't think the GDP numbers that 214 00:09:12,685 --> 00:09:16,025 were released today are much evidence of that. 215 00:09:16,022 --> 00:09:18,362 The fact is, this is one snapshot. 216 00:09:18,357 --> 00:09:20,927 And as you've heard me say for years up here now, 217 00:09:20,927 --> 00:09:23,397 we don't get too excited about one great economic 218 00:09:23,396 --> 00:09:28,466 report, or too disappointed by one that 219 00:09:28,467 --> 00:09:30,007 doesn't meet expectations. 220 00:09:30,002 --> 00:09:32,342 The fact is, what we're looking at are the longer trends. 221 00:09:32,338 --> 00:09:34,338 And even if you look at the more recent trends, 222 00:09:34,340 --> 00:09:37,040 just in the last six months of 2014, 223 00:09:37,043 --> 00:09:39,343 the economy grew at a rate of 4 percent. 224 00:09:39,345 --> 00:09:41,845 And that is certainly a pretty robust rate 225 00:09:41,847 --> 00:09:44,117 of growth, and that's momentum that we want 226 00:09:44,116 --> 00:09:45,116 to build on. 227 00:09:45,117 --> 00:09:47,117 And that's why so many of the policies that the 228 00:09:47,119 --> 00:09:49,119 President laid out in the State of the Union would 229 00:09:49,121 --> 00:09:51,121 try to capitalize on that momentum. 230 00:09:51,123 --> 00:09:53,123 At the same time, we have said -- and this is what 231 00:09:53,125 --> 00:09:55,125 I tried to acknowledge at the beginning of my answer 232 00:09:55,127 --> 00:09:57,127 to your question -- is that there are 233 00:09:57,129 --> 00:09:59,899 consequences for a slowdown in the 234 00:09:59,899 --> 00:10:01,639 international economy on the 235 00:10:01,634 --> 00:10:02,864 U.S. economy. 236 00:10:02,868 --> 00:10:05,838 And we do continue to be concerned about some 237 00:10:05,838 --> 00:10:07,208 of those things. 238 00:10:07,206 --> 00:10:09,476 Jason Furman appeared in the briefing with me about 239 00:10:09,475 --> 00:10:12,115 a little over a month ago now, and talked about some 240 00:10:12,111 --> 00:10:16,881 of the potential impacts from the slowing global economy. 241 00:10:16,882 --> 00:10:19,852 And certainly, our work with the Europeans that 242 00:10:19,852 --> 00:10:23,192 Jeff asked about, is evidence of our ongoing 243 00:10:23,189 --> 00:10:25,459 efforts to work with the international community 244 00:10:25,458 --> 00:10:27,458 to strengthen the economy around the globe because 245 00:10:27,460 --> 00:10:29,460 that's going to have important benefits for the 246 00:10:29,462 --> 00:10:30,462 U.S. economy here at home. 247 00:10:30,463 --> 00:10:32,463 The Press: And last night in Philadelphia, 248 00:10:32,465 --> 00:10:35,665 it sounded like there was a lively exchange on trade 249 00:10:35,668 --> 00:10:38,108 between the President and House Democrats. 250 00:10:38,104 --> 00:10:41,974 And I know that the President promised to loop 251 00:10:41,974 --> 00:10:43,874 them in more as these trade deals are being 252 00:10:43,876 --> 00:10:47,216 developed, and kind of made his argument for why 253 00:10:47,213 --> 00:10:48,713 they were important. 254 00:10:48,714 --> 00:10:50,114 So I'm wondering after that discussion if you 255 00:10:50,116 --> 00:10:52,686 guys feel as if you've got the 50 or so 256 00:10:52,685 --> 00:10:55,525 House Democrats that you need for Trade Promotion Authority. 257 00:10:55,521 --> 00:10:57,521 Mr. Earnest: Well, the President wasn't there 258 00:10:57,523 --> 00:10:58,523 to count votes last night. 259 00:10:58,524 --> 00:11:00,494 The President was there to have a conversation about 260 00:11:00,493 --> 00:11:03,293 his strategy when it comes to these conversations 261 00:11:03,295 --> 00:11:07,435 about opening up markets for American exports. 262 00:11:07,433 --> 00:11:09,903 And the President did lay out a pretty compelling 263 00:11:09,902 --> 00:11:11,902 case; it's not that different than the case 264 00:11:11,904 --> 00:11:13,904 you heard him make in the State of the Union. 265 00:11:13,906 --> 00:11:14,906 So this is a process. 266 00:11:14,907 --> 00:11:16,907 We're going to continue to have a conversation with 267 00:11:16,909 --> 00:11:19,449 Democrats and Republicans, both supporters of these 268 00:11:19,445 --> 00:11:21,445 kinds of trade agreements and some people who have 269 00:11:21,447 --> 00:11:23,447 indicated an opposition to them. 270 00:11:23,449 --> 00:11:25,449 The President does have a strong case to make about 271 00:11:25,451 --> 00:11:29,491 how an agreement that he will sign will only 272 00:11:29,488 --> 00:11:31,558 be an agreement that is in the best interest of 273 00:11:31,557 --> 00:11:33,557 American middle-class families and in the best interest 274 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:34,559 of American businesses. 275 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:39,400 And that will sort of be the guidepost as we pursue 276 00:11:39,398 --> 00:11:41,698 this agreement with a range of other countries 277 00:11:41,700 --> 00:11:43,140 in the Asia Pacific. 278 00:11:43,135 --> 00:11:46,905 And we'll make our case to Democrats and Republicans 279 00:11:46,906 --> 00:11:48,776 alike along those lines. 280 00:11:48,774 --> 00:11:50,744 I will say that the President over the course 281 00:11:50,743 --> 00:11:52,743 of the last six years, based on the success that 282 00:11:52,745 --> 00:11:54,815 his policies have had in strengthening our economy 283 00:11:54,814 --> 00:11:56,814 after the worst economic downturn since the 284 00:11:56,816 --> 00:11:58,986 Great Depression, should give those who are concerned 285 00:11:58,984 --> 00:12:00,984 about the middle class some confidence that the 286 00:12:00,986 --> 00:12:02,986 President knows what he's talking about when he says 287 00:12:02,988 --> 00:12:05,488 he's going to go out and stand up for middle-class families. 288 00:12:05,491 --> 00:12:06,991 The Press: Even if he wasn't counting votes, 289 00:12:06,992 --> 00:12:08,992 did the President come away from that feeling 290 00:12:08,994 --> 00:12:11,294 as if there was enough Democratic support? 291 00:12:11,297 --> 00:12:13,297 Mr. Earnest: Well, I'll say that the President 292 00:12:13,299 --> 00:12:15,299 came away with the impression that people 293 00:12:15,301 --> 00:12:17,301 were focused on this issue, and I do think that 294 00:12:17,303 --> 00:12:19,303 he came away with the impression that he got 295 00:12:19,305 --> 00:12:21,475 a fair hearing from the Democrats who were 296 00:12:21,474 --> 00:12:22,474 in attendance. 297 00:12:22,475 --> 00:12:25,515 I do not anticipate that every single Democrat 298 00:12:25,511 --> 00:12:28,081 is going to end up voting for this thing, but I do think 299 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,480 that as long as people give the President 300 00:12:31,484 --> 00:12:35,624 an opportunity to present the facts and to ask 301 00:12:35,621 --> 00:12:37,621 legitimate questions about the details of the 302 00:12:37,623 --> 00:12:39,623 agreement, then we're going to -- then I think 303 00:12:39,625 --> 00:12:42,195 we're going to have an opportunity to continue 304 00:12:42,194 --> 00:12:44,194 to make our case and I think we're going to win some 305 00:12:44,196 --> 00:12:45,266 support as a result. 306 00:12:45,264 --> 00:12:46,264 Mr. Viqueira. 307 00:12:46,265 --> 00:12:47,235 The Press: Thank you. 308 00:12:47,233 --> 00:12:48,333 I'll take you to the Middle East. 309 00:12:48,334 --> 00:12:49,164 Israel has announced -- 310 00:12:49,168 --> 00:12:50,168 Mr. Earnest: I was there earlier this week, 311 00:12:50,169 --> 00:12:51,039 but we can go back if you'd like. 312 00:12:51,036 --> 00:12:54,306 (laughter) 313 00:12:54,306 --> 00:12:56,276 The Press: Israel has announced plans to build 314 00:12:56,275 --> 00:12:58,915 450 units on the West Bank. 315 00:12:58,911 --> 00:13:02,451 The chief Palestinian negotiator has said that 316 00:13:02,448 --> 00:13:04,548 this is a result of impunity granted 317 00:13:04,550 --> 00:13:08,020 by Israel, a reference to the speech that the 318 00:13:08,020 --> 00:13:11,390 Speaker has invited the Prime Minister to make here. 319 00:13:11,390 --> 00:13:14,460 What is your reaction to the announcement by Israel? 320 00:13:14,460 --> 00:13:15,860 Mr. Earnest: Well, Mike, we've, on a number 321 00:13:15,861 --> 00:13:17,631 of occasions, had the opportunity to make clear 322 00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:20,130 our position on settlement activity. 323 00:13:20,132 --> 00:13:22,372 Our position is that we believe that settlements 324 00:13:22,368 --> 00:13:23,938 are illegitimate and counterproductive 325 00:13:23,936 --> 00:13:27,076 to achieving a two-state outcome. 326 00:13:27,072 --> 00:13:29,542 We have deep concerns about these highly 327 00:13:29,542 --> 00:13:31,542 contentious settlement construction 328 00:13:31,544 --> 00:13:32,544 announcements. 329 00:13:32,545 --> 00:13:34,545 They will have detrimental impacts on the ground, 330 00:13:34,547 --> 00:13:36,547 inflame already-heightened tensions with the 331 00:13:36,549 --> 00:13:38,549 Palestinians, and further isolate the Israelis 332 00:13:38,551 --> 00:13:39,551 internationally. 333 00:13:39,552 --> 00:13:42,392 The United States, as a close ally of Israel, 334 00:13:42,388 --> 00:13:45,828 works -- uses our diplomatic influence 335 00:13:45,824 --> 00:13:47,994 around the globe to try to build support for Israel, 336 00:13:47,993 --> 00:13:50,733 and an announcement like this only serves 337 00:13:50,729 --> 00:13:52,369 to further isolate them. 338 00:13:52,364 --> 00:13:54,734 I can tell you that issuing tenders like this 339 00:13:54,733 --> 00:13:57,133 does nothing to bolster Israel's security. 340 00:13:57,136 --> 00:13:59,576 It does not increase its prosperity and it does not 341 00:13:59,572 --> 00:14:01,772 further the cause for peace; in fact, it does 342 00:14:01,774 --> 00:14:02,774 precisely the opposite. 343 00:14:02,775 --> 00:14:04,775 The Press: Do you suspect a political motive on the 344 00:14:04,777 --> 00:14:06,777 part of the Prime Minister, coming so soon 345 00:14:06,779 --> 00:14:08,779 before the elections, which you've alluded to? 346 00:14:08,781 --> 00:14:10,781 Mr. Earnest: It's unclear to me exactly what their 347 00:14:10,783 --> 00:14:11,783 motive is. 348 00:14:11,784 --> 00:14:16,084 But what is clear is that this, in our view, would 349 00:14:16,088 --> 00:14:18,358 only undermine the ability of the Israelis to build 350 00:14:18,357 --> 00:14:21,257 support internationally and to ultimately secure 351 00:14:21,260 --> 00:14:23,430 the kind of peace agreement with a two-state 352 00:14:23,429 --> 00:14:25,799 outcome that we believe is clearly in the best 353 00:14:25,798 --> 00:14:28,168 interest of Israel's national security. 354 00:14:28,167 --> 00:14:29,167 Kristen. 355 00:14:29,168 --> 00:14:30,198 The Press: Josh, thank you. 356 00:14:30,202 --> 00:14:31,872 Can you comment on the reports that one of the 357 00:14:31,870 --> 00:14:35,440 five Taliban fighters who was traded last year for 358 00:14:35,441 --> 00:14:38,811 Bowe Bergdahl has reached out to try to make contact 359 00:14:38,811 --> 00:14:39,811 with the Taliban? 360 00:14:39,812 --> 00:14:41,212 What can you tell us about that? 361 00:14:41,213 --> 00:14:42,683 Mr. Earnest: Well, I can tell you there are 362 00:14:42,681 --> 00:14:46,521 a couple of facts that are important that should 363 00:14:46,518 --> 00:14:47,818 be reflected in the reporting. 364 00:14:47,820 --> 00:14:52,560 The first is, is that none of these individuals has 365 00:14:52,558 --> 00:14:54,658 returned to the battlefield. 366 00:14:54,660 --> 00:14:58,400 None of them is allowed to travel outside of Qatar, 367 00:14:58,397 --> 00:15:01,637 and none has engaged in physical violence. 368 00:15:01,634 --> 00:15:04,134 In fact, each of them at this moment is still 369 00:15:04,136 --> 00:15:07,606 in Qatar, and each of them is subject to monitoring and 370 00:15:07,606 --> 00:15:11,006 other mitigation measures that limit their activities. 371 00:15:11,010 --> 00:15:13,850 I can also tell you that we are regularly in touch 372 00:15:13,846 --> 00:15:17,216 with the Qataris about those mitigation efforts. 373 00:15:17,216 --> 00:15:19,456 And in light of the concerns that you have 374 00:15:19,451 --> 00:15:22,021 raised, I can tell you that those mitigation 375 00:15:22,021 --> 00:15:24,021 efforts and those monitoring efforts have 376 00:15:24,023 --> 00:15:26,163 been updated to reflect those concerns. 377 00:15:26,158 --> 00:15:28,158 But I can tell you, because of the cooperation 378 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,160 we've gotten from the Qataris and because of the 379 00:15:30,162 --> 00:15:31,902 conversations that they've had with our national 380 00:15:31,897 --> 00:15:36,437 security team here in the administration, that 381 00:15:36,435 --> 00:15:38,975 we continue to have confidence that there are 382 00:15:38,971 --> 00:15:41,441 measures in place to substantially mitigate 383 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,840 the threat that they pose to American national security. 384 00:15:43,842 --> 00:15:44,542 The Press: Can you be specific? 385 00:15:44,543 --> 00:15:46,243 What do you mean by "updated"? 386 00:15:46,245 --> 00:15:47,475 Mitigation efforts have been updated? 387 00:15:47,479 --> 00:15:49,079 Mr. Earnest: Unfortunately, I'm not in a position 388 00:15:49,081 --> 00:15:51,251 I think for some -- for a variety of reasons, 389 00:15:51,250 --> 00:15:53,420 some of which are obvious, I'm not in a position 390 00:15:53,419 --> 00:15:55,159 to detail the mitigation efforts that are in place. 391 00:15:55,154 --> 00:15:56,554 The Press: And I know that you're making the point 392 00:15:56,555 --> 00:15:57,895 that this individual hasn't returned to the 393 00:15:57,890 --> 00:16:02,490 battlefield, but doesn't it suggest that releasing 394 00:16:02,494 --> 00:16:04,694 these prisoners could potentially pose a threat 395 00:16:04,697 --> 00:16:06,127 to the United States? 396 00:16:06,131 --> 00:16:07,801 Mr. Earnest: Well, Kristen, you'll recall 397 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,270 that when this transfer from Guantanamo Bay -- 398 00:16:11,270 --> 00:16:13,710 from the prison at Guantanamo Bay to Qatar, 399 00:16:13,706 --> 00:16:16,146 that the Secretary of Defense had independently 400 00:16:16,141 --> 00:16:19,041 certified that there were sufficient mitigation 401 00:16:19,044 --> 00:16:21,444 measures in place to substantially mitigate the 402 00:16:21,447 --> 00:16:24,247 threat that they posed to American national security. 403 00:16:24,249 --> 00:16:28,089 And Secretary Hagel certified as such last summer. 404 00:16:28,087 --> 00:16:33,857 Now, the success of those mitigation measures 405 00:16:33,859 --> 00:16:39,369 depends on the cooperation of the Qatari government, 406 00:16:39,365 --> 00:16:42,165 and I'm pleased to report to you that we've gotten 407 00:16:42,167 --> 00:16:45,467 good cooperation and there is good coordination 408 00:16:45,471 --> 00:16:47,471 between the United States and the Qatari government 409 00:16:47,473 --> 00:16:49,473 about these measures that need to be implemented. 410 00:16:49,475 --> 00:16:51,445 And the fact that we are updating them to reflect 411 00:16:51,443 --> 00:16:54,013 some of these concerns I think is evidence that 412 00:16:54,012 --> 00:16:59,682 we have a system in place that is protecting 413 00:16:59,685 --> 00:17:01,685 American national security right now. 414 00:17:01,687 --> 00:17:03,687 The Press: And the fact that this contact happened 415 00:17:03,689 --> 00:17:05,689 in the first place -- will it make the 416 00:17:05,691 --> 00:17:07,161 administration, has it made the administration 417 00:17:07,159 --> 00:17:10,699 re-think the effort to essentially close 418 00:17:10,696 --> 00:17:13,196 Guantanamo, to step up its release of some of these 419 00:17:13,198 --> 00:17:14,338 prisoners? 420 00:17:14,333 --> 00:17:16,403 Mr. Earnest: No, it does not, and simply because 421 00:17:16,402 --> 00:17:18,302 keeping the prison open undermines our 422 00:17:18,303 --> 00:17:19,573 national security. 423 00:17:19,571 --> 00:17:21,111 That is the view of the President of the United States. 424 00:17:21,106 --> 00:17:23,206 It's been his view since he campaigned for this 425 00:17:23,208 --> 00:17:24,748 office in the first place. 426 00:17:24,743 --> 00:17:25,983 It actually was the view of the previous 427 00:17:25,978 --> 00:17:28,518 administration, who also advocated for the closing 428 00:17:28,514 --> 00:17:30,514 of the prison at Guantanamo Bay. 429 00:17:30,516 --> 00:17:32,516 The fact is, the prison at Guantanamo Bay only serves 430 00:17:32,518 --> 00:17:34,888 as a recruitment tool for terrorists. 431 00:17:34,887 --> 00:17:36,787 It drains our resources. 432 00:17:36,789 --> 00:17:38,119 As the President mentioned in the State of the Union 433 00:17:38,123 --> 00:17:41,893 address, we spend $3 million a year per 434 00:17:41,894 --> 00:17:43,894 prisoner to keep them locked up at the prison 435 00:17:43,896 --> 00:17:44,896 at Guantanamo Bay. 436 00:17:44,897 --> 00:17:46,897 That certainly is not a good use of our resources. 437 00:17:46,899 --> 00:17:48,899 And the opening of that prison -- or the prison's 438 00:17:48,901 --> 00:17:51,271 continued operation has only served to damage our 439 00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:53,270 relationships with countries around the world, 440 00:17:53,272 --> 00:17:55,912 countries we rely on to protect our national security. 441 00:17:55,908 --> 00:17:58,248 So the President believes that it is an easy call 442 00:17:58,243 --> 00:18:00,243 that we need to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay. 443 00:18:00,245 --> 00:18:02,845 And as we transfer prisoners from the prison, 444 00:18:02,848 --> 00:18:05,118 we need to make sure that we have measures in place 445 00:18:05,117 --> 00:18:07,457 to mitigate the risk that those individuals pose 446 00:18:07,453 --> 00:18:08,553 to the United States. 447 00:18:08,554 --> 00:18:10,824 And in the case of these five individuals, 448 00:18:10,823 --> 00:18:11,823 that's exactly what we have. 449 00:18:11,824 --> 00:18:13,824 The Press: And just to put a fine point on it, 450 00:18:13,826 --> 00:18:16,696 you can say with confidence that this individual right 451 00:18:16,695 --> 00:18:19,095 now does not continue to pose a threat 452 00:18:19,097 --> 00:18:20,537 to the United States? 453 00:18:20,532 --> 00:18:21,902 Mr. Earnest: Well, what I can say with confidence 454 00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:23,240 is this individual has not returned 455 00:18:23,235 --> 00:18:24,335 to the battlefield. 456 00:18:24,336 --> 00:18:26,576 This individual is not allowed to travel outside Qatar. 457 00:18:26,572 --> 00:18:28,572 And this individual has not engaged 458 00:18:28,574 --> 00:18:29,574 in any physical violence. 459 00:18:29,575 --> 00:18:31,815 In fact, this individual is still in Qatar right 460 00:18:31,810 --> 00:18:35,550 now, and is subject to monitoring measures that 461 00:18:35,547 --> 00:18:37,547 mitigate the threat that this individual poses 462 00:18:37,549 --> 00:18:39,549 to the United States of America. 463 00:18:39,551 --> 00:18:41,551 The Press: And I want to ask you about something 464 00:18:41,553 --> 00:18:42,553 here at home. 465 00:18:42,554 --> 00:18:44,594 There's a lot of concern, particularly among the 466 00:18:44,590 --> 00:18:50,560 CDC officials, about this recent spread of measles. 467 00:18:50,562 --> 00:18:52,662 It's now impacting people in 14 different states. 468 00:18:52,664 --> 00:18:54,634 There's been concern, as we get closer to the 469 00:18:54,633 --> 00:18:56,303 Super Bowl. 470 00:18:56,301 --> 00:18:57,901 How concerned is the White House? 471 00:18:57,903 --> 00:18:59,603 How closely is the President being informed 472 00:18:59,605 --> 00:19:01,805 by the CDC? 473 00:19:01,807 --> 00:19:03,877 Mr. Earnest: Well, the CDC is obviously monitoring 474 00:19:03,876 --> 00:19:05,846 this very closely, and we have our public health 475 00:19:05,844 --> 00:19:09,144 experts across the country who are taking a careful 476 00:19:09,147 --> 00:19:11,087 look at this. 477 00:19:11,083 --> 00:19:13,083 I mean, I think what those experts would tell you 478 00:19:13,085 --> 00:19:15,155 is that their recommendation is that if you're sick, 479 00:19:15,153 --> 00:19:17,153 we recommend that you don't get on an airplane and you 480 00:19:17,155 --> 00:19:20,095 don't go to crowded locations. 481 00:19:20,092 --> 00:19:24,492 And that's true of the flu and other illnesses as well. 482 00:19:24,496 --> 00:19:28,936 But this obviously is an illness that's a little 483 00:19:28,934 --> 00:19:31,404 bit more potent than the flu, and it's certainly 484 00:19:31,403 --> 00:19:33,403 attracted the attention of our public health 485 00:19:33,405 --> 00:19:35,405 professionals both here in the federal government but 486 00:19:35,407 --> 00:19:37,407 also in states and communities all across the country. 487 00:19:37,409 --> 00:19:39,409 And it's something we're going to continue 488 00:19:39,411 --> 00:19:40,411 to closely monitor. 489 00:19:40,412 --> 00:19:42,082 The Press: And obviously it has revived the debate 490 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,550 over vaccines. 491 00:19:43,549 --> 00:19:45,419 Does the President, does the White House have 492 00:19:45,417 --> 00:19:47,457 a message about that and who will be getting 493 00:19:47,452 --> 00:19:48,522 vaccinated? 494 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,390 Mr. Earnest: Well, the President certainly 495 00:19:50,389 --> 00:19:52,389 believes that these kinds of decisions are decisions 496 00:19:52,391 --> 00:19:54,891 that should be made by parents, because ultimately 497 00:19:54,893 --> 00:19:56,893 when we're talking about vaccinations, we're typically 498 00:19:56,895 --> 00:19:59,635 talking about vaccinations that are given to children. 499 00:19:59,631 --> 00:20:01,631 But the science on this, as our public health 500 00:20:01,633 --> 00:20:03,033 professionals I'm sure would be happy to tell 501 00:20:03,035 --> 00:20:04,975 you, the science on this is really clear. 502 00:20:04,970 --> 00:20:06,670 The Press: That people should get vaccinated? 503 00:20:06,672 --> 00:20:07,902 Mr. Earnest: That's certainly what the science 504 00:20:07,906 --> 00:20:09,906 indicates, and that's obviously what our public 505 00:20:09,908 --> 00:20:11,978 health professionals recommend. 506 00:20:11,977 --> 00:20:14,547 And being guided by the science in matters 507 00:20:14,546 --> 00:20:17,316 like this is typically the right approach. 508 00:20:17,316 --> 00:20:18,416 Kevin. 509 00:20:18,417 --> 00:20:19,517 The Press: Josh, thanks. 510 00:20:19,518 --> 00:20:22,458 An interesting question posed by Politico today 511 00:20:22,454 --> 00:20:25,154 about lurching leftward from a policy perspective, 512 00:20:25,157 --> 00:20:27,097 perhaps budgetary perspective. 513 00:20:27,092 --> 00:20:28,562 Is that a fair characterization 514 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,630 of how the President is now leading? 515 00:20:30,629 --> 00:20:32,629 Is there still an opportunity for a grand 516 00:20:32,631 --> 00:20:35,331 bargaining or centrist policies moving forward? 517 00:20:35,334 --> 00:20:37,334 Mr. Earnest: Well, Kevin, I think what I would say 518 00:20:37,336 --> 00:20:39,306 is that the President is driving towards the 519 00:20:39,304 --> 00:20:41,304 middle, not on the ideological spectrum, 520 00:20:41,306 --> 00:20:43,306 but driving toward the middle class. 521 00:20:43,308 --> 00:20:45,748 And that has exactly been the focal point of his 522 00:20:45,744 --> 00:20:48,584 domestic policymaking agenda since he took office. 523 00:20:48,580 --> 00:20:50,580 But I think it's fair to say that he's doubling 524 00:20:50,582 --> 00:20:52,982 down on that effort, and that was what was included 525 00:20:52,985 --> 00:20:54,955 in his State of the Union address. 526 00:20:54,953 --> 00:20:56,953 And when the President rolls out his budget 527 00:20:56,955 --> 00:20:58,955 on Monday, you'll see that we're going to have 528 00:20:58,957 --> 00:21:02,327 an orientation in that budget where we make clear that 529 00:21:02,327 --> 00:21:04,727 our priority is middle-class families. 530 00:21:04,730 --> 00:21:06,730 And the reason for that is simply that when our 531 00:21:06,732 --> 00:21:09,202 economy is growing from the middle out, we know 532 00:21:09,201 --> 00:21:11,841 that our economy is on its strongest footing. 533 00:21:11,837 --> 00:21:13,937 And the President believes that there's a lot more 534 00:21:13,939 --> 00:21:16,809 that we can do to support middle-class families. 535 00:21:16,808 --> 00:21:19,208 And I don't know if -- if supporting middle-class 536 00:21:19,211 --> 00:21:21,511 families means that you're more oriented to the 537 00:21:21,513 --> 00:21:24,783 progressive end of the ideological spectrum, so be it. 538 00:21:24,783 --> 00:21:28,483 But that's certainly -- what the President is focused 539 00:21:28,487 --> 00:21:30,527 on is the middle class. 540 00:21:30,522 --> 00:21:31,692 The Press: I want to switch gears for just 541 00:21:31,690 --> 00:21:33,130 a second and ask you about immigration. 542 00:21:33,125 --> 00:21:35,065 I know a great deal has been talked about with 543 00:21:35,060 --> 00:21:37,300 respect to the people that are already here. 544 00:21:37,295 --> 00:21:39,935 I'm curious about policy moving forward for those 545 00:21:39,931 --> 00:21:41,931 who would like to work here and be here for 546 00:21:41,933 --> 00:21:42,933 longer periods. 547 00:21:42,934 --> 00:21:45,474 There are thousands, if not more, Canadians, 548 00:21:45,470 --> 00:21:47,740 for example, that come here, they do good jobs, 549 00:21:47,739 --> 00:21:50,479 and then they have to go back because it's a time 550 00:21:50,475 --> 00:21:51,475 limitation. 551 00:21:51,476 --> 00:21:53,676 Is there any thought to sort of expanding that 552 00:21:53,679 --> 00:21:56,619 opportunity as you continue to unpack immigration reform? 553 00:21:56,615 --> 00:21:58,715 Mr. Earnest: Well, Kevin, this is one of the tragedies 554 00:21:58,717 --> 00:22:02,157 of the House Republicans' decision not to even 555 00:22:02,154 --> 00:22:04,254 consider a vote on the bipartisan legislation 556 00:22:04,256 --> 00:22:07,696 that passed through the Senate early in 2013. 557 00:22:07,693 --> 00:22:10,663 That legislation included a wide variety of things, 558 00:22:10,662 --> 00:22:12,862 but one of the important things it included were 559 00:22:12,864 --> 00:22:17,234 reform of our legal immigration system, 560 00:22:17,235 --> 00:22:19,235 that there should be some things that we can 561 00:22:19,237 --> 00:22:22,037 do to better attract talent from all across the world and 562 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,180 entrepreneurs from all across the world to make 563 00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:26,146 it easier for them to come to the United States. 564 00:22:26,144 --> 00:22:28,144 And if they want to open a business and create jobs 565 00:22:28,146 --> 00:22:30,146 here in America, they should be able to have 566 00:22:30,148 --> 00:22:32,218 a clear path to do so. 567 00:22:32,217 --> 00:22:37,057 And right now, our system doesn't operate 568 00:22:37,055 --> 00:22:39,255 as efficiently as we would like, and it certainly 569 00:22:39,257 --> 00:22:42,057 doesn't optimize our ability to retain talent 570 00:22:42,060 --> 00:22:43,260 that has come to the United States. 571 00:22:43,261 --> 00:22:45,131 In some cases, we're talking about individuals 572 00:22:45,130 --> 00:22:46,470 who left their home country to come 573 00:22:46,465 --> 00:22:48,835 to the United States to go to school and avail 574 00:22:48,834 --> 00:22:51,674 themselves of the most effective higher education 575 00:22:51,670 --> 00:22:53,240 system in the world. 576 00:22:53,238 --> 00:22:55,278 But yet, when their education system is up 577 00:22:55,273 --> 00:22:59,913 and they're ready to invent a new product or innovate 578 00:22:59,911 --> 00:23:02,481 in an exciting way, or open a new business, 579 00:23:02,481 --> 00:23:04,481 we tell them, sorry, you're going to have to go back 580 00:23:04,483 --> 00:23:05,483 to your home country. 581 00:23:05,484 --> 00:23:08,454 The President doesn't think that makes a lot of sense. 582 00:23:08,453 --> 00:23:10,453 Certainly the Chamber of Commerce and a number 583 00:23:10,455 --> 00:23:12,455 of other business-friendly organizations that don't 584 00:23:12,457 --> 00:23:14,457 typically align themselves with the President agree with 585 00:23:14,459 --> 00:23:16,459 him, however, in this case, that it doesn't make 586 00:23:16,461 --> 00:23:17,461 a lot of sense. 587 00:23:17,462 --> 00:23:19,562 So that's why the President has said that 588 00:23:19,564 --> 00:23:23,064 he was going to use all of the power at his disposal, 589 00:23:23,068 --> 00:23:25,068 using his executive authority, to try to fix 590 00:23:25,070 --> 00:23:27,070 as much of our broken immigration system 591 00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:28,072 as possible. 592 00:23:28,073 --> 00:23:30,073 But there is more work that needs to be done. 593 00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:32,215 And we stand ready to work closely with Democrats and 594 00:23:32,210 --> 00:23:35,180 Republicans on Capitol Hill who are eager to join that fight. 595 00:23:35,180 --> 00:23:38,420 And that fight should include reforms of our legal 596 00:23:38,416 --> 00:23:39,416 immigration system. 597 00:23:39,417 --> 00:23:41,417 The Press: One more thing I wanted to ask you about. 598 00:23:41,419 --> 00:23:43,459 There's a game coming on Sunday; perhaps you'll 599 00:23:43,455 --> 00:23:44,585 be watching it. 600 00:23:44,589 --> 00:23:47,059 A lot of fans in Seattle and in the New England 601 00:23:47,058 --> 00:23:49,458 area want to know: Does the President have a team 602 00:23:49,461 --> 00:23:50,461 that he's picking this year? 603 00:23:50,462 --> 00:23:52,332 Are you picking a team this year? 604 00:23:52,330 --> 00:23:54,030 Mr. Earnest: Well, the President is always rooting 605 00:23:54,032 --> 00:23:56,132 for the Chicago Bears. 606 00:23:56,134 --> 00:23:58,034 And unfortunately, they're not in the game yet again. 607 00:23:58,036 --> 00:23:58,736 The Press: Again. 608 00:23:58,737 --> 00:23:59,707 (laughter) 609 00:23:59,704 --> 00:24:01,474 Mr. Earnest: The President told House Democrats 610 00:24:01,473 --> 00:24:03,473 last night that he wasn't going to choose 611 00:24:03,475 --> 00:24:05,615 sides in this particular contest, but he's just 612 00:24:05,610 --> 00:24:06,610 hoping for a good game. 613 00:24:06,611 --> 00:24:09,551 I think I can say the same thing for myself. 614 00:24:09,548 --> 00:24:10,548 Major. 615 00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:12,549 The Press: Josh, the House Republicans have put 616 00:24:12,551 --> 00:24:15,051 together a working group to draft an alternative, 617 00:24:15,053 --> 00:24:17,153 they say, to the President's Affordable 618 00:24:17,155 --> 00:24:19,955 Care Act, and doing so in anticipation of 619 00:24:19,958 --> 00:24:22,628 King v. Burwell before the Supreme Court. 620 00:24:22,627 --> 00:24:24,027 Two questions. 621 00:24:24,029 --> 00:24:28,229 Do you think there is anything premature about 622 00:24:28,233 --> 00:24:30,433 putting together a working group in anticipation 623 00:24:30,435 --> 00:24:32,905 of a Supreme Court decision that may strike down a key 624 00:24:32,904 --> 00:24:35,374 component of the Affordable Care Act? 625 00:24:35,373 --> 00:24:41,313 And in general, White House reaction to what has 626 00:24:41,313 --> 00:24:43,453 long been missing from the Republican argument about 627 00:24:43,448 --> 00:24:45,618 Obamacare, that is to say a full-blown legislative 628 00:24:45,617 --> 00:24:46,617 replacement? 629 00:24:46,618 --> 00:24:48,288 Mr. Earnest: Well, I guess what I'd say, Major, 630 00:24:48,286 --> 00:24:49,556 is that they're not premature, they're about 631 00:24:49,554 --> 00:24:51,254 five years too late. 632 00:24:51,256 --> 00:24:53,456 We've been waiting for years for Republicans 633 00:24:53,458 --> 00:24:56,158 to actually engage constructively in putting 634 00:24:56,161 --> 00:24:59,561 forward a plan to reform our health care system. 635 00:24:59,564 --> 00:25:02,304 And that's why the President had to drive 636 00:25:02,300 --> 00:25:04,570 so hard to get this across the finish line, because, 637 00:25:04,569 --> 00:25:07,309 again, he was obstructed at every turn by Republicans. 638 00:25:07,305 --> 00:25:10,705 So the President has also said, since that success 639 00:25:10,709 --> 00:25:13,849 of passing health care reform that has expanded 640 00:25:13,845 --> 00:25:15,845 health insurance to millions more Americans, 641 00:25:15,847 --> 00:25:18,987 and actually limited the growth in health care cost 642 00:25:18,984 --> 00:25:23,424 to the lowest level in recorded history, that 643 00:25:23,421 --> 00:25:25,691 we welcome ideas from Republicans for actually 644 00:25:25,690 --> 00:25:26,860 improving the law. 645 00:25:26,858 --> 00:25:28,558 The fact of the matter is, they voted more than 646 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,560 50 times to actually try and eliminate the law. 647 00:25:30,562 --> 00:25:32,562 So it's not really clear that either, 648 00:25:32,564 --> 00:25:34,564 A, Republicans are serious about putting forward 649 00:25:34,566 --> 00:25:36,906 their own plan, or, B, actually even serious 650 00:25:36,902 --> 00:25:39,402 about trying to reform our health care system 651 00:25:39,404 --> 00:25:41,404 in a way that's actually good for small business owners 652 00:25:41,406 --> 00:25:42,806 and middle-class families. 653 00:25:42,807 --> 00:25:44,747 The Press: Do you think there is anything to the 654 00:25:44,743 --> 00:25:45,713 idea that if King v. Burwell 655 00:25:45,710 --> 00:25:48,610 goes against the Affordable Care Act, 656 00:25:48,613 --> 00:25:54,353 the act itself becomes largely toothless in dealing with 657 00:25:54,352 --> 00:25:55,752 national health care? 658 00:25:55,754 --> 00:25:57,454 Mr. Earnest: Well, Major, at this point we remain 659 00:25:57,455 --> 00:26:01,965 confident that the Supreme Court will take a close 660 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,530 look at the arguments and conclude what so many 661 00:26:04,529 --> 00:26:06,669 other people have, which is that the common-sense 662 00:26:06,665 --> 00:26:09,265 reading of the legislation is that Congress always 663 00:26:09,267 --> 00:26:11,267 intended for individuals that are eligible 664 00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:13,269 to collect tax credits that make their health care 665 00:26:13,271 --> 00:26:15,271 more affordable, that they should be able to collect 666 00:26:15,273 --> 00:26:17,273 those tax credits regardless of who was 667 00:26:17,275 --> 00:26:18,675 operating their marketplace. 668 00:26:18,677 --> 00:26:21,847 So we remain confident in that. 669 00:26:21,846 --> 00:26:26,086 And, frankly, what we found from Republicans who 670 00:26:26,084 --> 00:26:28,324 are raising those concerns, those are the 671 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,320 same Republicans who voted against the 672 00:26:30,322 --> 00:26:32,322 Affordable Care Act in the first place. 673 00:26:32,324 --> 00:26:33,694 So it's hard to take their concerns very seriously. 674 00:26:33,692 --> 00:26:35,222 The Press: On Monday, Strobe Talbot, 675 00:26:35,226 --> 00:26:38,866 Michele Flournoy, and several others will put forward 676 00:26:38,863 --> 00:26:40,733 a recommendation on administration policy 677 00:26:40,732 --> 00:26:41,702 in Ukraine. 678 00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:44,500 Among the things they're going to suggest is that 679 00:26:44,502 --> 00:26:47,602 this administration provide military equipment 680 00:26:47,605 --> 00:26:50,605 to Ukraine because after many, many months of using 681 00:26:50,608 --> 00:26:53,178 economic sanctions, they will argue the Ukrainian 682 00:26:53,178 --> 00:26:55,548 government needs financial resources of a greater 683 00:26:55,547 --> 00:26:58,747 degree than so far provided, and the military 684 00:26:58,750 --> 00:27:03,820 means by which to make the continued use of Russian 685 00:27:03,822 --> 00:27:06,862 separatists too painful for Russia. 686 00:27:06,858 --> 00:27:09,298 Is this administration willing to give any 687 00:27:09,294 --> 00:27:11,164 consideration more seriously than it has 688 00:27:11,162 --> 00:27:14,862 to date to the concept of arming -- or providing 689 00:27:14,866 --> 00:27:16,666 arms to the Ukrainian government? 690 00:27:16,668 --> 00:27:18,668 Mr. Earnest: Major, I don't know that anybody 691 00:27:18,670 --> 00:27:20,670 here has had a chance to take a look at that 692 00:27:20,672 --> 00:27:22,672 report, so when it's issued on Monday I'm sure 693 00:27:22,674 --> 00:27:23,674 we'll take a close look at it. 694 00:27:23,675 --> 00:27:25,675 I know that there are a couple of things that 695 00:27:25,677 --> 00:27:28,017 it sounds like we may have some agreement with their 696 00:27:28,013 --> 00:27:30,183 proposals, based on the way that you've described them. 697 00:27:30,181 --> 00:27:33,221 The first is that there is substantially more 698 00:27:33,218 --> 00:27:35,218 financial support that we can offer the 699 00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:39,460 Ukrainian government; that as a result of this instability 700 00:27:39,457 --> 00:27:41,757 in their country that's been fomented and aided 701 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,400 and abetted by the Russians, that they've 702 00:27:44,396 --> 00:27:47,666 sustained some pretty significant economic costs 703 00:27:47,665 --> 00:27:49,035 themselves. 704 00:27:49,034 --> 00:27:51,334 That's why the President earlier this year called 705 00:27:51,336 --> 00:27:53,336 for Congress to act on a $1 billion loan 706 00:27:53,338 --> 00:27:55,978 guarantee to Ukraine. 707 00:27:55,974 --> 00:27:58,274 And consistent with some reforms that they put 708 00:27:58,276 --> 00:28:00,976 in place, we'd be in favor of even additional support 709 00:28:00,979 --> 00:28:02,979 beyond that, in the second half of this year. 710 00:28:02,981 --> 00:28:04,981 So we'll see how that moves forward. 711 00:28:04,983 --> 00:28:06,983 The second thing is, the President has been urging 712 00:28:06,985 --> 00:28:11,355 Congress to approve of some long overdue reforms 713 00:28:11,356 --> 00:28:14,256 at the IMF that would bolster the IMF's ability 714 00:28:14,259 --> 00:28:16,259 to offer some financial assistance to the Ukrainians. 715 00:28:16,261 --> 00:28:18,861 So at least that element of the report, the way 716 00:28:18,863 --> 00:28:20,863 that you've described it, is consistent with our 717 00:28:20,865 --> 00:28:23,535 view that there is more that we can and should 718 00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:26,575 do to support the Ukrainians financially. 719 00:28:26,571 --> 00:28:30,771 As it relates to military support, the President has 720 00:28:30,775 --> 00:28:33,545 been reluctant to do that, principally because 721 00:28:33,545 --> 00:28:34,575 in his mind -- 722 00:28:34,579 --> 00:28:35,819 The Press: Is he becoming more open to it? 723 00:28:35,814 --> 00:28:37,984 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think at this point what I would 724 00:28:37,982 --> 00:28:42,192 say is, he continues to be reluctant -- because 725 00:28:42,187 --> 00:28:44,187 ultimately there's not going to be a military 726 00:28:44,189 --> 00:28:45,259 solution to this problem. 727 00:28:45,256 --> 00:28:47,696 This is the kind of dispute that has 728 00:28:47,692 --> 00:28:49,532 to be resolved diplomatically. 729 00:28:49,527 --> 00:28:51,597 And what we need to do is we need to see the 730 00:28:51,596 --> 00:28:54,336 Russians actually abide by the commitments that 731 00:28:54,332 --> 00:28:56,332 they've already made at the negotiating table. 732 00:28:56,334 --> 00:28:58,334 The Press: The arguments from Strobe Talbot 733 00:28:58,336 --> 00:28:59,876 and Michele Flournoy, as someone -- obviously the 734 00:28:59,871 --> 00:29:02,671 President is very familiar with both, is that that's 735 00:29:02,674 --> 00:29:05,674 been tested; that there has to be a military 736 00:29:05,677 --> 00:29:07,947 price, and the Russians need to begin to feel it, 737 00:29:07,946 --> 00:29:09,786 and the Ukrainians need to have a sense they can 738 00:29:09,781 --> 00:29:13,421 defend themselves and not see civilian casualties 739 00:29:13,418 --> 00:29:16,588 and other destruction continue for there 740 00:29:16,588 --> 00:29:20,028 to be a different conclusion on the Russian side about the 741 00:29:20,024 --> 00:29:22,264 necessity of reaching the political accommodation 742 00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:23,660 you've just described. 743 00:29:23,661 --> 00:29:25,731 Does the President disagree with that fundamentally? 744 00:29:25,730 --> 00:29:27,670 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think I'd look at their report 745 00:29:27,665 --> 00:29:30,705 before I pronounced a judgment on it one way 746 00:29:30,702 --> 00:29:31,702 or the other. 747 00:29:31,703 --> 00:29:35,373 I think it's certainly a reasonable point of view. 748 00:29:35,373 --> 00:29:37,373 But the other part of this that we have to remember 749 00:29:37,375 --> 00:29:39,375 is that the longer that the sanctions remain 750 00:29:39,377 --> 00:29:41,377 in place, the worst the economic costs that 751 00:29:41,379 --> 00:29:42,379 Russia has to bear get. 752 00:29:42,380 --> 00:29:44,380 And I think that's evidenced even 753 00:29:44,382 --> 00:29:47,022 by the Russian Central Bank today that they're having to -- 754 00:29:47,018 --> 00:29:50,688 that they're going to attempt to lower their 755 00:29:50,688 --> 00:29:54,058 interest rates just a few days after increasing them 756 00:29:54,058 --> 00:29:55,058 significantly. 757 00:29:55,059 --> 00:29:57,059 So there is an element of chaos in the 758 00:29:57,061 --> 00:29:59,261 Russian economy that's only getting worse by the day. 759 00:29:59,264 --> 00:30:06,774 So I think it is too early to say that the economic 760 00:30:06,771 --> 00:30:09,371 costs that Russia has to bear as a result of their 761 00:30:09,374 --> 00:30:11,944 incursions into Ukraine are not sufficient to get 762 00:30:11,943 --> 00:30:13,943 them to change their mind, and will not. 763 00:30:13,945 --> 00:30:16,445 They haven't been so far, obviously. 764 00:30:16,447 --> 00:30:19,317 But as those costs mount, there still is the 765 00:30:19,317 --> 00:30:22,017 possibility that it could prompt them to reevaluate 766 00:30:22,020 --> 00:30:23,390 their strategy in Ukraine. 767 00:30:23,388 --> 00:30:24,618 The Press: Two quick questions on trade. 768 00:30:24,622 --> 00:30:27,122 Is 50 votes in the House, on the Democrat side, 769 00:30:27,125 --> 00:30:28,455 the White House benchmark? 770 00:30:28,459 --> 00:30:31,429 And what is it about this argument you think 771 00:30:31,429 --> 00:30:35,099 House Democrats who oppose this already, sight unseen, 772 00:30:35,099 --> 00:30:37,969 don't get about the new global economy and what 773 00:30:37,969 --> 00:30:41,509 this trade deal might mean for the U.S.? 774 00:30:41,506 --> 00:30:42,976 Mr. Earnest: I'm not ready to establish a benchmark 775 00:30:42,974 --> 00:30:44,544 in terms of the number of Democratic votes that 776 00:30:44,542 --> 00:30:46,812 we'd expect for this legislation. 777 00:30:46,811 --> 00:30:48,211 The Press: Or that you'd seek. 778 00:30:48,213 --> 00:30:49,483 Mr. Earnest: What we'd seek is a majority 779 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,750 in the House of Representatives for the bill. 780 00:30:52,750 --> 00:30:55,490 And whether that's all Republicans or a bunch 781 00:30:55,486 --> 00:30:59,226 of Republicans and a small number of Democrats is, 782 00:30:59,224 --> 00:31:00,554 frankly, not something that we're particularly 783 00:31:00,558 --> 00:31:01,558 concerned about. 784 00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:03,029 We actually just want to see this piece 785 00:31:03,027 --> 00:31:05,627 of legislation pass. 786 00:31:05,630 --> 00:31:08,400 On your second question about what it is that 787 00:31:08,399 --> 00:31:12,439 we will try to persuade reluctant Democrats, 788 00:31:12,437 --> 00:31:14,907 at least, about this matter is I think we'd try 789 00:31:14,906 --> 00:31:17,246 to persuade them about two facts. 790 00:31:17,242 --> 00:31:19,312 The first is, there is significant risk 791 00:31:19,310 --> 00:31:22,650 associated with not engaging in this region 792 00:31:22,647 --> 00:31:24,647 of the world; that if the United States were 793 00:31:24,649 --> 00:31:26,649 to stand back and say, we're not going to enter into 794 00:31:26,651 --> 00:31:28,651 any sort of economic agreements with countries 795 00:31:28,653 --> 00:31:34,123 in the Asia Pacific, it only serves to create 796 00:31:34,125 --> 00:31:37,195 an opening for China to step in and start writing the 797 00:31:37,195 --> 00:31:39,965 rules of the road in a way that is certainly not 798 00:31:39,964 --> 00:31:41,964 advantageous to American businesses and certainly 799 00:31:41,966 --> 00:31:43,966 not advantageous to American workers. 800 00:31:43,968 --> 00:31:46,068 In fact, it would put Americans businesses 801 00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:48,410 and American workers at a significant disadvantage 802 00:31:48,406 --> 00:31:50,576 if China were to go in and start writing the rules of 803 00:31:50,575 --> 00:31:53,845 engagement with a bunch of other countries in the 804 00:31:53,845 --> 00:31:55,115 Asia Pacific. 805 00:31:55,113 --> 00:31:57,053 That's why the President believes it's important 806 00:31:57,048 --> 00:31:59,648 for us to go into that situation and attempt 807 00:31:59,651 --> 00:32:02,151 to set a higher standard and to raise standards 808 00:32:02,153 --> 00:32:04,853 in a way that will level the playing field and create 809 00:32:04,856 --> 00:32:07,996 opportunities for American businesses to grow and 810 00:32:07,992 --> 00:32:11,662 thrive and open up access to markets in other countries. 811 00:32:11,663 --> 00:32:13,863 We're talking about countries that have, 812 00:32:13,865 --> 00:32:17,265 combined, a large population and a lot 813 00:32:17,268 --> 00:32:19,608 of customers, a lot of potential customers. 814 00:32:19,604 --> 00:32:22,574 So there is an opportunity to be seized here, 815 00:32:22,573 --> 00:32:25,513 but there also is a cost associated with failing 816 00:32:25,510 --> 00:32:28,110 to seize it, and that is what is on the mind of the President. 817 00:32:28,112 --> 00:32:30,112 And I think the second thing is -- and again, 818 00:32:30,114 --> 00:32:32,084 this is what I would expect to be an argument 819 00:32:32,083 --> 00:32:34,083 that's pretty persuasive for a lot of Democrats 820 00:32:34,085 --> 00:32:36,655 in Congress -- when the President says he's not 821 00:32:36,654 --> 00:32:38,724 going to sign an agreement that he doesn't believe 822 00:32:38,723 --> 00:32:41,493 is clearly in the best interest of American 823 00:32:41,492 --> 00:32:45,132 middle-class families, he means it. 824 00:32:45,129 --> 00:32:46,929 And there is an interest that other countries 825 00:32:46,931 --> 00:32:49,171 obviously have in trying to strike an agreement 826 00:32:49,167 --> 00:32:50,167 with the United States. 827 00:32:50,168 --> 00:32:55,238 This is the most dynamic economy in the world, and 828 00:32:55,239 --> 00:32:58,379 it's understandable that other countries would want 829 00:32:58,376 --> 00:33:01,646 to have more access to sell their goods here or 830 00:33:01,646 --> 00:33:04,646 to locate some of their businesses here. 831 00:33:04,649 --> 00:33:07,219 So we've sort of got -- the carrot on the other 832 00:33:07,218 --> 00:33:09,418 end of the stick is making sure that this is an 833 00:33:09,420 --> 00:33:11,420 agreement that's clearly in the best interest 834 00:33:11,422 --> 00:33:13,722 of American businesses and American middle-class families. 835 00:33:13,725 --> 00:33:16,495 And that is the criteria that the President will 836 00:33:16,494 --> 00:33:18,634 use to evaluate this agreement. 837 00:33:18,629 --> 00:33:21,069 And the President, as I mentioned, over the last 838 00:33:21,065 --> 00:33:23,065 six years or so, has put in place a whole host of 839 00:33:23,067 --> 00:33:25,067 policies that are clearly in the interest of 840 00:33:25,069 --> 00:33:26,069 middle-class families. 841 00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:28,070 So he's got some credibility built 842 00:33:28,072 --> 00:33:29,072 up around these issues. 843 00:33:29,073 --> 00:33:31,073 And again, I wouldn't expect that argument 844 00:33:31,075 --> 00:33:33,075 to carry the day with every single Democrat in the 845 00:33:33,077 --> 00:33:35,077 House of Representatives, but I do think that the 846 00:33:35,079 --> 00:33:38,519 President deserves, and so far has gotten, 847 00:33:38,516 --> 00:33:40,116 a fair hearing. 848 00:33:40,118 --> 00:33:42,258 But this is a case that we'll be making in the 849 00:33:42,253 --> 00:33:43,423 weeks ahead. 850 00:33:43,421 --> 00:33:44,721 Jim. 851 00:33:44,722 --> 00:33:46,692 The Press: Just to put a finer point on the measles 852 00:33:46,691 --> 00:33:47,921 vaccine issue. 853 00:33:47,925 --> 00:33:51,565 When you say that it's the parents -- you prefaced 854 00:33:51,562 --> 00:33:52,962 your comments by saying that parents would have 855 00:33:52,964 --> 00:33:54,504 that decision. 856 00:33:54,499 --> 00:33:57,339 Are you supporting those who not for religious 857 00:33:57,335 --> 00:34:00,935 reasons, but because they have a special reason for 858 00:34:00,938 --> 00:34:06,008 it which may be based upon faulty science, 859 00:34:06,010 --> 00:34:09,280 are holding their kids back from getting vaccines? 860 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,780 Does the President support that? 861 00:34:10,782 --> 00:34:11,952 Mr. Earnest: Well, the President believes that 862 00:34:11,949 --> 00:34:13,249 everybody should be listening to our public 863 00:34:13,251 --> 00:34:14,751 health professionals. 864 00:34:14,752 --> 00:34:15,922 Our public health professionals are guided 865 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:16,890 by the science. 866 00:34:16,888 --> 00:34:18,928 They're the ones who are steeped in this knowledge, 867 00:34:18,923 --> 00:34:21,063 they've reviewed the studies, and they can 868 00:34:21,058 --> 00:34:24,058 offer the best advice to Americans about how they 869 00:34:24,061 --> 00:34:26,001 can best protect themselves and their kids 870 00:34:25,997 --> 00:34:27,737 from diseases like measles. 871 00:34:27,732 --> 00:34:31,502 So I guess my point is, I'm not going to stand 872 00:34:31,502 --> 00:34:33,842 up here and dispense medical advice, but I am going 873 00:34:33,838 --> 00:34:36,938 to suggest that the President's view is that 874 00:34:36,941 --> 00:34:39,241 people should evaluate this for themselves with 875 00:34:39,243 --> 00:34:42,043 a bias toward good science and toward the advice 876 00:34:42,046 --> 00:34:44,246 of our public health professionals who are 877 00:34:44,248 --> 00:34:46,818 trained to offer us exactly this kind 878 00:34:46,818 --> 00:34:47,818 of advice. 879 00:34:47,819 --> 00:34:49,819 The Press: And as I understand the regulations 880 00:34:49,821 --> 00:34:51,961 now are, is that the federal rules are you have 881 00:34:51,956 --> 00:34:54,726 to get a vaccine to go to school, but if you have -- 882 00:34:54,725 --> 00:34:57,625 but there are exemptions, and the exemptions are for 883 00:34:57,628 --> 00:35:01,498 religious reasons and also if you have a special concern. 884 00:35:01,499 --> 00:35:02,869 Does that law need to be addressed? 885 00:35:02,867 --> 00:35:05,737 Does that mean we have to eliminate these special 886 00:35:05,736 --> 00:35:07,306 concerns, which are not based on science? 887 00:35:07,305 --> 00:35:09,905 Mr. Earnest: I haven't heard any discussion about 888 00:35:09,907 --> 00:35:14,147 revising those rules, but this administration and 889 00:35:14,145 --> 00:35:16,145 our public health professionals rely on the 890 00:35:16,147 --> 00:35:18,717 best science available to give Americans the 891 00:35:18,716 --> 00:35:20,716 information that they need so that they can take the 892 00:35:20,718 --> 00:35:22,718 steps that are necessary to protect themselves and 893 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:23,720 their families. 894 00:35:23,721 --> 00:35:26,921 And that's what we believe is the most important rule 895 00:35:26,924 --> 00:35:28,924 for the government in this case. 896 00:35:28,926 --> 00:35:30,926 The Press: And then just, in the State of the Union, 897 00:35:30,928 --> 00:35:33,168 the President said that it was time for Congress 898 00:35:33,164 --> 00:35:35,764 to begin to lift the embargo in Cuba. 899 00:35:35,766 --> 00:35:39,036 Do you believe that the legislation, which has 900 00:35:39,036 --> 00:35:41,636 been proposed by Senators Leahy -- in the Senate, 901 00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:44,879 Senators Leahy and Flake and Durbin, is what the 902 00:35:44,876 --> 00:35:45,906 President is talking about? 903 00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:47,880 It's not talking asking for the embargo 904 00:35:47,879 --> 00:35:50,179 to be lifted, but for the travel restrictions to be lifted? 905 00:35:50,181 --> 00:35:51,281 Mr. Earnest: I think it's certainly a step in the 906 00:35:51,282 --> 00:35:52,852 right direction, and I think it reflects the kind 907 00:35:52,850 --> 00:35:55,490 of bipartisan support there is for the policy 908 00:35:55,486 --> 00:35:58,956 proposal -- or the policy change that the President 909 00:35:58,956 --> 00:36:01,056 has started to implement on his own and has called 910 00:36:01,058 --> 00:36:03,098 for Congress to follow up on. 911 00:36:03,094 --> 00:36:05,534 So we certainly welcome that piece of legislation, 912 00:36:05,530 --> 00:36:08,200 and hope it will get due consideration in both the 913 00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:09,229 House and the Senate. 914 00:36:09,233 --> 00:36:10,403 The Press: And do you think in this Congress, 915 00:36:10,401 --> 00:36:12,101 that the second step, the lifting of the embargo, 916 00:36:12,103 --> 00:36:13,673 will come up? 917 00:36:13,671 --> 00:36:14,671 Mr. Earnest: Well, it's certainly possible. 918 00:36:14,672 --> 00:36:17,542 I know the President is not the only person 919 00:36:17,542 --> 00:36:19,542 to support the lifting of the embargo. 920 00:36:19,544 --> 00:36:21,044 There are Democrats and Republicans on both sides 921 00:36:21,045 --> 00:36:22,685 of the aisle who do support it, and the 922 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,480 President will continue to advocate for it. 923 00:36:24,482 --> 00:36:25,712 Annie. 924 00:36:25,716 --> 00:36:29,116 The Press: You just mentioned earlier that 925 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,960 you welcome Republican ideas to change Obamacare. 926 00:36:31,956 --> 00:36:34,656 And one of those that may have come up today with 927 00:36:34,659 --> 00:36:39,459 Obama's push for medical research is supporting 928 00:36:39,463 --> 00:36:42,363 rescinding the medical device tax. 929 00:36:42,366 --> 00:36:44,306 And I'm curious if there's been any movement on that 930 00:36:44,302 --> 00:36:46,402 at all, and particularly with this push that you 931 00:36:46,404 --> 00:36:47,774 guys are making. 932 00:36:47,772 --> 00:36:49,342 Mr. Earnest: Well, I don't think that there's much 933 00:36:49,340 --> 00:36:51,340 of a connection between the medical device tax and the 934 00:36:51,342 --> 00:36:52,642 precision medicine announcement that the 935 00:36:52,643 --> 00:36:54,643 President made today. 936 00:36:54,645 --> 00:36:56,615 The announcement that the President made today 937 00:36:56,614 --> 00:37:00,354 related to precision medicine is part 938 00:37:00,351 --> 00:37:01,691 of a substantial investment that he believes 939 00:37:01,686 --> 00:37:05,856 is necessary in the kind of medical innovations that 940 00:37:05,856 --> 00:37:09,396 could serve to dramatically overhaul 941 00:37:09,393 --> 00:37:11,033 health care in this country in a way that 942 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,040 would have tremendous benefits for the health 943 00:37:13,042 --> 00:37:14,562 and wellbeing of people all across the country. 944 00:37:14,562 --> 00:37:16,562 The President is also supportive of those kinds 945 00:37:16,562 --> 00:37:17,822 of investments because they have important 946 00:37:17,822 --> 00:37:18,822 economic benefits as well. 947 00:37:18,821 --> 00:37:22,401 Right now it's difficult to predict exactly what 948 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,400 kind of businesses could sprout up around some 949 00:37:24,408 --> 00:37:26,408 of these innovations, but there is tremendous 950 00:37:26,410 --> 00:37:28,410 economic potential associated with a lot 951 00:37:28,412 --> 00:37:29,412 of this research. 952 00:37:29,413 --> 00:37:31,483 And so, for both of those reasons, the President 953 00:37:31,482 --> 00:37:33,482 strongly believes that this is a worthwhile 954 00:37:33,484 --> 00:37:35,484 investment, and he'll have more details about what 955 00:37:35,486 --> 00:37:37,326 that investment actually is in his budget. 956 00:37:37,321 --> 00:37:38,661 The Press: Well, many of those companies, though -- 957 00:37:38,656 --> 00:37:42,996 many of the companies that come up with these 958 00:37:42,994 --> 00:37:46,134 innovations are pushing for the medical device tax 959 00:37:46,130 --> 00:37:47,830 to be rescinded for that very reason. 960 00:37:47,832 --> 00:37:50,532 And it will give them more time and more resources 961 00:37:50,534 --> 00:37:51,734 to put into research. 962 00:37:51,736 --> 00:37:53,806 Mr. Earnest: Well, we certainly have indicated 963 00:37:53,804 --> 00:37:55,174 a willingness to have a conversation with 964 00:37:55,172 --> 00:37:58,442 Republicans about the medical device tax. 965 00:37:58,442 --> 00:37:59,712 I know some of them have expressed some concerns 966 00:37:59,710 --> 00:38:00,910 about it. 967 00:38:00,911 --> 00:38:02,681 And we're certainly willing to have that 968 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,080 conversation. 969 00:38:04,081 --> 00:38:06,351 But I don't think there's any reason why that 970 00:38:06,350 --> 00:38:09,190 medical device tax would in any way limit the kind 971 00:38:09,186 --> 00:38:11,186 of innovation that the President believes could 972 00:38:11,188 --> 00:38:14,088 revolutionize health care and has great economic 973 00:38:14,091 --> 00:38:18,401 potential for both those well-established health 974 00:38:18,396 --> 00:38:20,736 care companies, but also new companies that could 975 00:38:20,731 --> 00:38:22,931 emerge as a result of some of this new technology. 976 00:38:22,933 --> 00:38:24,933 The Press: And then, just on the Super Bowl, 977 00:38:24,935 --> 00:38:27,235 I'm wondering if the President has any thoughts about 978 00:38:27,238 --> 00:38:31,538 either what the NFL has done on domestic violence 979 00:38:31,542 --> 00:38:33,182 or on the issue of concussions. 980 00:38:33,177 --> 00:38:36,317 Mr. Earnest: Well, as I think has been covered 981 00:38:36,313 --> 00:38:38,313 in a lot of the reporting, this has been 982 00:38:38,315 --> 00:38:41,215 a challenging year for the NFL, and there are a range 983 00:38:41,218 --> 00:38:43,388 of important issues that I think even they've 984 00:38:43,387 --> 00:38:45,587 acknowledged that they need to address. 985 00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:48,929 And I haven't heard the President sort of evaluate 986 00:38:48,926 --> 00:38:50,896 the specific response of the NFL to some of these 987 00:38:50,895 --> 00:38:55,465 challenges, but certainly acknowledging that these 988 00:38:55,466 --> 00:38:57,406 challenges exist is an important first step, 989 00:38:57,401 --> 00:38:59,541 and there's no question that the NFL has done that. 990 00:38:59,537 --> 00:39:00,867 Jim. 991 00:39:00,871 --> 00:39:02,811 The Press: Getting back to the President's remarks 992 00:39:02,807 --> 00:39:06,247 last night, specifically when he referenced 993 00:39:06,243 --> 00:39:09,613 Governor Romney, the President did say that 994 00:39:09,613 --> 00:39:11,083 Governor Romney is a former presidential 995 00:39:11,082 --> 00:39:13,582 candidate on the other side, who suddenly is just 996 00:39:13,584 --> 00:39:15,024 deeply concerned about poverty. 997 00:39:15,019 --> 00:39:19,419 He was zinging Romney, was he not? 998 00:39:19,420 --> 00:39:20,920 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jim, I think the President was 999 00:39:20,925 --> 00:39:24,625 observing a phenomenon that we've seen emerge 1000 00:39:24,628 --> 00:39:27,068 from the mouths of many members of the Republican 1001 00:39:27,064 --> 00:39:29,534 Party in the last few months; that all 1002 00:39:29,533 --> 00:39:33,473 of a sudden, a party that has for years advocated 1003 00:39:33,471 --> 00:39:35,471 policies that benefit those at the top, with the 1004 00:39:35,473 --> 00:39:37,773 expectation that those benefits may trickle down 1005 00:39:37,775 --> 00:39:40,215 to those in the middle, that all of a sudden, 1006 00:39:40,211 --> 00:39:42,681 at least some Republicans seem to be changing their 1007 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,080 tune and indicating that they're now actually all 1008 00:39:45,082 --> 00:39:47,522 of a sudden interested in helping middle-class 1009 00:39:47,518 --> 00:39:48,518 families. 1010 00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:50,519 The President welcomes their interest, 1011 00:39:50,521 --> 00:39:52,521 but is hopeful that their interest is a signal 1012 00:39:52,523 --> 00:39:55,063 of actual policy proposals and not just a new set 1013 00:39:55,059 --> 00:39:56,059 of talking points. 1014 00:39:56,060 --> 00:40:00,330 The Press: And how much does the President expect 1015 00:40:00,331 --> 00:40:02,671 his message, the one that he delivered last night, 1016 00:40:02,666 --> 00:40:04,706 the message that he's trying to convey in this 1017 00:40:04,702 --> 00:40:08,372 upcoming budget proposal, is picked up by Hillary Clinton 1018 00:40:08,372 --> 00:40:11,612 or the Democratic Party heading into 2016? 1019 00:40:11,609 --> 00:40:15,709 Is he trying to set the table for whoever may be 1020 00:40:15,713 --> 00:40:17,213 running for that nomination in 2016? 1021 00:40:17,214 --> 00:40:19,184 Mr. Earnest: I mean, the short answer 1022 00:40:19,183 --> 00:40:20,183 to the question is no. 1023 00:40:20,184 --> 00:40:22,184 What the President is trying to do is he wants 1024 00:40:22,186 --> 00:40:24,586 to set the table for some progress for the country 1025 00:40:24,588 --> 00:40:26,588 over the course of the two remaining years 1026 00:40:26,590 --> 00:40:27,590 of his presidency. 1027 00:40:27,591 --> 00:40:29,591 And the President is hopeful that he can work 1028 00:40:29,593 --> 00:40:31,593 with Congress to make some of that progress. 1029 00:40:31,595 --> 00:40:34,235 The President is also the first to acknowledge that 1030 00:40:34,231 --> 00:40:36,231 he may have to take some steps on his own 1031 00:40:36,233 --> 00:40:38,233 to realize some of that progress, and he's willing 1032 00:40:38,235 --> 00:40:41,375 to do both. 1033 00:40:41,372 --> 00:40:42,672 That's what the President is going to be focused 1034 00:40:42,673 --> 00:40:46,143 on for the last two years, and there will be this 1035 00:40:46,143 --> 00:40:48,143 other presidential campaign that's going on. 1036 00:40:48,145 --> 00:40:50,145 And I'm confident that there will be some people 1037 00:40:50,147 --> 00:40:52,147 who are running for President who are going 1038 00:40:52,149 --> 00:40:54,149 to be critical of some of the President's proposals, 1039 00:40:54,151 --> 00:40:56,151 and there will be some people who are running 1040 00:40:56,153 --> 00:40:58,153 for President who will compliment the President 1041 00:40:58,155 --> 00:41:00,125 for some of the proposals that he's put forward. 1042 00:41:00,124 --> 00:41:02,124 And the President is happy to be a part of that debate. 1043 00:41:02,126 --> 00:41:04,126 But ultimately, the debate that he's going to have 1044 00:41:04,128 --> 00:41:07,068 will be one that's focused on the middle class and 1045 00:41:07,064 --> 00:41:10,264 focused on how we can make progress for the middle class. 1046 00:41:10,267 --> 00:41:12,267 The people who are part of that campaign will 1047 00:41:12,269 --> 00:41:14,269 be making the case for the country about how they 1048 00:41:14,271 --> 00:41:16,371 can make that progress, if they're given the same 1049 00:41:16,373 --> 00:41:18,473 kind of opportunity that this President has been 1050 00:41:18,475 --> 00:41:20,475 given, to serve here in the White House. 1051 00:41:20,477 --> 00:41:22,477 The Press: And with Governor Romney making 1052 00:41:22,479 --> 00:41:24,479 his decision today, they aren't any thoughts here 1053 00:41:24,481 --> 00:41:26,481 at the White House as to how soon perhaps 1054 00:41:26,483 --> 00:41:28,583 Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden should be making some 1055 00:41:28,586 --> 00:41:29,916 decisions on the future? 1056 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,760 Mr. Earnest: They'll make those decisions on their 1057 00:41:31,755 --> 00:41:32,695 own timeframe. 1058 00:41:32,690 --> 00:41:33,820 The Press: Okay. 1059 00:41:33,824 --> 00:41:37,424 And I want to get back to the Bowe Bergdahl swap. 1060 00:41:37,428 --> 00:41:40,728 No regrets at this White House for that swap? 1061 00:41:40,731 --> 00:41:42,731 Mr. Earnest: Of course not, Jim. 1062 00:41:42,733 --> 00:41:46,533 We're talking about a principle that has a lot 1063 00:41:46,537 --> 00:41:49,007 of precedent that this President is firmly 1064 00:41:49,006 --> 00:41:50,076 committed to. 1065 00:41:50,074 --> 00:41:52,074 As the Commander-in-Chief, it's his responsibility 1066 00:41:52,076 --> 00:41:54,346 that no man or woman who wears the uniform of the 1067 00:41:54,345 --> 00:41:56,585 United States military is left behind. 1068 00:41:56,580 --> 00:41:58,580 And that is a principle that the President 1069 00:41:58,582 --> 00:42:00,882 is committed to upholding, in the same way that 1070 00:42:00,885 --> 00:42:06,155 commanders-in-chief before him upheld that principle. 1071 00:42:06,156 --> 00:42:08,856 And that, ultimately, is where this debate starts 1072 00:42:08,859 --> 00:42:09,859 and stops for him. 1073 00:42:09,860 --> 00:42:11,860 The Press: And you said that none of these 1074 00:42:11,862 --> 00:42:14,132 individuals have returned to the battlefield. 1075 00:42:14,131 --> 00:42:15,231 Has the administration confirmed that? 1076 00:42:15,232 --> 00:42:16,162 Mr. Earnest: That's correct. 1077 00:42:16,166 --> 00:42:17,336 The Press: And when was that confirmation made? 1078 00:42:17,334 --> 00:42:19,404 Was that just made in recent days -- contacts 1079 00:42:19,403 --> 00:42:23,573 made in recent days to confirm that? 1080 00:42:23,574 --> 00:42:26,374 Mr. Earnest: Jim, we are -- the national security 1081 00:42:26,377 --> 00:42:28,847 team here is in regular touch with our 1082 00:42:28,846 --> 00:42:30,786 counterparts in Qatar. 1083 00:42:30,781 --> 00:42:33,581 And right now, these individuals are in Qatar 1084 00:42:33,584 --> 00:42:36,624 and they are subjected to monitoring and mitigation 1085 00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:39,820 measures that ensures that we're limiting their 1086 00:42:39,823 --> 00:42:41,863 activities and doing so in a way that protects the 1087 00:42:41,859 --> 00:42:43,629 national security interest of the United States. 1088 00:42:43,627 --> 00:42:44,867 The Press: And the United States is doing that 1089 00:42:44,862 --> 00:42:46,362 monitoring, is that correct? 1090 00:42:46,363 --> 00:42:48,863 In conjunction with the allies there in the region? 1091 00:42:48,866 --> 00:42:50,866 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jim, we're in close touch with 1092 00:42:50,868 --> 00:42:53,868 the Qataris about these monitoring and mitigation 1093 00:42:53,871 --> 00:42:55,201 procedures. 1094 00:42:55,205 --> 00:42:57,205 But I'm just not going to be in a position to detail 1095 00:42:57,207 --> 00:42:58,207 exactly what those are. 1096 00:42:58,208 --> 00:43:00,208 The Press: And I'm sorry, just to button it up, 1097 00:43:00,210 --> 00:43:06,650 the fact that this individual was perhaps in contact 1098 00:43:06,650 --> 00:43:09,090 with people on the battlefield, or in that 1099 00:43:09,086 --> 00:43:14,226 theater of concern, does that concern the White House? 1100 00:43:14,224 --> 00:43:15,924 It appears that was the case. 1101 00:43:15,926 --> 00:43:17,326 You're saying not on the battlefield, 1102 00:43:17,328 --> 00:43:18,198 making that distinction. 1103 00:43:18,195 --> 00:43:20,835 But perhaps making attempts to contact 1104 00:43:20,831 --> 00:43:23,871 people on the battlefield, that should be a concern, 1105 00:43:23,867 --> 00:43:25,007 I would think. 1106 00:43:25,002 --> 00:43:27,202 Mr. Earnest: Well, I can't talk about the individual 1107 00:43:27,204 --> 00:43:29,244 concern that we have. 1108 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,309 I can just say, as a general matter, that there 1109 00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:34,309 have been concerns that have been raised about one 1110 00:43:34,311 --> 00:43:37,811 individual, and that the monitoring and mitigation 1111 00:43:37,815 --> 00:43:40,855 measures that were in place have been updated 1112 00:43:40,851 --> 00:43:42,391 to reflect those concerns. 1113 00:43:42,386 --> 00:43:44,886 But I just can't get into the details of either what 1114 00:43:44,888 --> 00:43:47,528 prompted those concerns, what the concerns are, 1115 00:43:47,524 --> 00:43:49,424 or what the mitigation measures were. 1116 00:43:49,426 --> 00:43:50,366 The Press: And by "updated," you mean 1117 00:43:50,361 --> 00:43:52,431 intensified, right? 1118 00:43:52,429 --> 00:43:55,699 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think it would be fine for you 1119 00:43:55,699 --> 00:43:57,169 to interpret it that way. 1120 00:43:57,167 --> 00:44:00,137 The Press: And because of the drone concerns here 1121 00:44:00,137 --> 00:44:02,837 at the White House earlier this week, and there have 1122 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,610 been some reports about drone concerns at the 1123 00:44:05,609 --> 00:44:09,149 Super Bowl this weekend -- that people may try 1124 00:44:09,146 --> 00:44:11,986 to do this sort of thing, and people have been told not 1125 00:44:11,982 --> 00:44:14,352 to do that -- I mean, what is the 1126 00:44:14,351 --> 00:44:19,291 Department of Homeland Security, I guess, activity related 1127 00:44:19,289 --> 00:44:20,459 to that? 1128 00:44:20,457 --> 00:44:21,797 Is this a new concern? 1129 00:44:21,792 --> 00:44:24,032 Is this sort of a new phenomenon that the 1130 00:44:24,028 --> 00:44:25,628 Department of Homeland Security is looking at, 1131 00:44:25,629 --> 00:44:27,799 that the national security apparatus of this 1132 00:44:27,798 --> 00:44:30,538 government is looking at with respect to keeping 1133 00:44:30,534 --> 00:44:32,334 people safe this weekend? 1134 00:44:32,336 --> 00:44:34,536 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jim, this is a concern that 1135 00:44:34,538 --> 00:44:36,778 is new in the headlines, but is a concern that our 1136 00:44:36,774 --> 00:44:38,774 national security team, and specifically 1137 00:44:38,776 --> 00:44:40,946 the Department of Homeland Security has been aware 1138 00:44:40,944 --> 00:44:42,914 of and focused on for quite some time. 1139 00:44:42,913 --> 00:44:44,913 And I can tell you, as it relates to the 1140 00:44:44,915 --> 00:44:47,415 White House, this is something that has been a subject 1141 00:44:47,418 --> 00:44:49,418 of extensive conversation at the 1142 00:44:49,420 --> 00:44:52,320 United States Secret Service, the agency that's responsible 1143 00:44:52,322 --> 00:44:54,162 for protecting the White House. 1144 00:44:54,158 --> 00:44:56,158 I also know that the Department of Homeland Security 1145 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,160 is involved in some of the security 1146 00:44:58,162 --> 00:45:00,162 precautions that are put in place around the 1147 00:45:00,164 --> 00:45:02,164 Super Bowl, as they are with other large gatherings 1148 00:45:02,166 --> 00:45:03,166 like that. 1149 00:45:03,167 --> 00:45:04,167 So I'd refer you to the 1150 00:45:04,168 --> 00:45:07,168 Department of Homeland Security to discuss what they can 1151 00:45:07,171 --> 00:45:09,541 about the security measures that are in place to keep people 1152 00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:10,940 safe when they're attending the Super Bowl 1153 00:45:10,941 --> 00:45:12,981 today -- or this weekend. 1154 00:45:12,976 --> 00:45:14,316 Jared. 1155 00:45:14,311 --> 00:45:16,211 The Press: Josh, I want to follow up on Major's 1156 00:45:16,213 --> 00:45:17,653 question about King v. Burwell. 1157 00:45:17,648 --> 00:45:19,188 I know you said that you remain confident about the 1158 00:45:19,183 --> 00:45:20,453 Supreme Court's decision. 1159 00:45:20,451 --> 00:45:22,091 Is there any legislative proposal that the 1160 00:45:22,086 --> 00:45:24,086 administration is considering that could 1161 00:45:24,088 --> 00:45:26,588 potentially get through two Republican chambers 1162 00:45:26,590 --> 00:45:30,090 of Congress that would fix the Affordable Care Act 1163 00:45:30,094 --> 00:45:32,164 if the King v. Burwell decision went the other way? 1164 00:45:32,162 --> 00:45:34,132 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jared, we're confident that 1165 00:45:34,131 --> 00:45:35,301 it's not going to go the other way. 1166 00:45:35,299 --> 00:45:37,139 The Press: So there's no legislative consideration 1167 00:45:37,134 --> 00:45:39,634 happening to hedge any of those bets? 1168 00:45:39,636 --> 00:45:41,936 Mr. Earnest: Well, Republicans have indicated 1169 00:45:41,939 --> 00:45:44,139 that they're, again, determined to try 1170 00:45:44,141 --> 00:45:46,141 to undermine the Affordable Care Act. 1171 00:45:46,143 --> 00:45:48,143 And for some reason, they think it's good politics 1172 00:45:48,145 --> 00:45:50,145 to try to take health care away from people; 1173 00:45:50,147 --> 00:45:52,147 I'm not sure exactly why that is. 1174 00:45:52,149 --> 00:45:54,149 But that's the conclusion that they've reached. 1175 00:45:54,151 --> 00:45:56,151 And they have said that they would block any sort 1176 00:45:56,153 --> 00:45:58,153 of legislative improvements to the 1177 00:45:58,155 --> 00:46:00,155 Affordable Care Act, and that's unfortunate 1178 00:46:00,157 --> 00:46:02,157 but that's the situation as it exists. 1179 00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:04,199 That's why it's a good thing that we continue 1180 00:46:04,194 --> 00:46:08,234 to be confident that the Supreme Court is going 1181 00:46:08,232 --> 00:46:11,102 to take a look at the legislation and consider 1182 00:46:11,101 --> 00:46:13,101 what is a pretty straightforward reading -- 1183 00:46:13,103 --> 00:46:15,773 that the Congress intended for individuals who are 1184 00:46:15,772 --> 00:46:20,312 qualified to accept tax credits to make their 1185 00:46:20,310 --> 00:46:23,010 health care more affordable can actually accept them. 1186 00:46:23,013 --> 00:46:25,013 And that's a pretty simple principle, and I don't 1187 00:46:25,015 --> 00:46:30,785 think it's one that we -- it is a conclusion that 1188 00:46:30,787 --> 00:46:33,487 has been acknowledged by others who have looked at this. 1189 00:46:33,490 --> 00:46:35,360 For example, when the Congressional Budget Office 1190 00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:37,329 did a review of the Affordable Care Act, they 1191 00:46:37,327 --> 00:46:40,067 did so, and their analysis indicated that they 1192 00:46:40,063 --> 00:46:42,903 expected people who lived in states where the 1193 00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:44,900 federal government was running their marketplace, 1194 00:46:44,902 --> 00:46:46,902 that those people who be eligible to collect tax 1195 00:46:46,904 --> 00:46:48,904 credits to make their health insurance more affordable. 1196 00:46:48,906 --> 00:46:50,876 So it's not as if this is some sort 1197 00:46:50,874 --> 00:46:52,874 of creative interpretation of the legislation. 1198 00:46:52,876 --> 00:46:55,816 I think it is rather the clear intent of those 1199 00:46:55,812 --> 00:46:57,382 who wrote the law. 1200 00:46:57,381 --> 00:46:58,581 Ultimately, it's the Supreme Court that has 1201 00:46:58,582 --> 00:47:02,752 to decide this, but I think on its face it's a matter 1202 00:47:02,753 --> 00:47:03,753 of common sense. 1203 00:47:03,754 --> 00:47:05,754 The Press: So since the Republicans control both 1204 00:47:05,756 --> 00:47:07,726 chambers of Congress, there's no point in the 1205 00:47:07,724 --> 00:47:09,724 White House -- is this what you're saying 1206 00:47:09,726 --> 00:47:11,726 -- pursuing a backstop proposal if the Supreme Court 1207 00:47:11,728 --> 00:47:12,728 went the other way? 1208 00:47:12,729 --> 00:47:14,729 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, we don't think the 1209 00:47:14,731 --> 00:47:16,731 Supreme Court is going to go the other way. 1210 00:47:16,733 --> 00:47:18,733 And even if they did, Republicans have said 1211 00:47:18,735 --> 00:47:20,735 that they wouldn't consider a legislative solution. 1212 00:47:20,737 --> 00:47:22,737 So we're pretty busy here at the White House. 1213 00:47:22,739 --> 00:47:24,739 I don't think that would be a good use of our time. 1214 00:47:24,741 --> 00:47:26,741 The Press: One other thing, Josh. 1215 00:47:26,743 --> 00:47:28,743 Does the White House have any reaction to Texas 1216 00:47:28,745 --> 00:47:30,745 state representative, Molly White, 1217 00:47:30,747 --> 00:47:32,747 and a decision that she made to put an Israeli flag on her 1218 00:47:32,749 --> 00:47:35,119 desk and ask people to sign a pledge 1219 00:47:35,118 --> 00:47:37,288 of allegiance to Muslims who were visiting 1220 00:47:37,287 --> 00:47:38,687 her office yesterday? 1221 00:47:38,689 --> 00:47:40,159 Does the White House happen to have any 1222 00:47:40,157 --> 00:47:41,357 reaction to that? 1223 00:47:41,358 --> 00:47:42,558 Mr. Earnest: I don't, Jared. 1224 00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:43,759 And that's actually the first I'm hearing of it, 1225 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,930 but I'll go see if I can learn more about it. 1226 00:47:45,929 --> 00:47:46,929 April. 1227 00:47:46,930 --> 00:47:47,970 Mr. Earnest: Or not, maybe. 1228 00:47:47,965 --> 00:47:50,865 (laughter) 1229 00:47:52,669 --> 00:47:53,909 I'm sorry, April, I didn't mean to interrupt. 1230 00:47:53,904 --> 00:47:54,604 The Press: No problem. 1231 00:47:54,605 --> 00:47:55,675 No problem. 1232 00:47:55,672 --> 00:47:58,812 Josh, I want to know, is Ferguson still a very 1233 00:47:58,809 --> 00:48:01,049 special issue item that the President still looks 1234 00:48:01,044 --> 00:48:04,344 at daily to find out what's happening? 1235 00:48:04,348 --> 00:48:07,148 Mr. Earnest: This broader issue, April, 1236 00:48:07,150 --> 00:48:11,120 of strengthening the bonds of trust between local 1237 00:48:11,121 --> 00:48:13,121 law enforcement officials and the citizens of the 1238 00:48:13,123 --> 00:48:15,123 communities they serve is something that the 1239 00:48:15,125 --> 00:48:16,125 President is very focused on. 1240 00:48:16,126 --> 00:48:18,696 And as you know, there is this commission that has 1241 00:48:18,695 --> 00:48:21,395 been hard at work, that was appointed by the 1242 00:48:21,398 --> 00:48:23,498 President, to take a look at some of these issues. 1243 00:48:23,500 --> 00:48:25,900 This is a commission that include members of law 1244 00:48:25,902 --> 00:48:27,902 enforcement, some community and civil rights 1245 00:48:27,904 --> 00:48:30,074 leaders and others, who could examine what some 1246 00:48:30,073 --> 00:48:32,173 communities across the country have done to build 1247 00:48:32,175 --> 00:48:34,445 this trust and to try to find ways to share those 1248 00:48:34,444 --> 00:48:37,144 best practices with other communities across the country. 1249 00:48:37,147 --> 00:48:39,447 The Press: So since you're still looking at that 1250 00:48:39,449 --> 00:48:41,789 issue, what did the President say about the 1251 00:48:41,785 --> 00:48:44,685 dust-up that happened in Ferguson as tensions are 1252 00:48:44,688 --> 00:48:46,928 still very high between the black community and 1253 00:48:46,923 --> 00:48:48,793 law enforcement there? 1254 00:48:48,792 --> 00:48:49,692 Mr. Earnest: April, I haven't talk to the 1255 00:48:49,693 --> 00:48:50,763 President about it. 1256 00:48:50,761 --> 00:48:51,991 I have seen the news reports that you're 1257 00:48:51,995 --> 00:48:53,095 referring to. 1258 00:48:53,096 --> 00:48:55,696 And I think this is an indication that there's 1259 00:48:55,699 --> 00:48:57,839 more work that needs to be done on this, and I don't 1260 00:48:57,834 --> 00:49:00,774 think that's a surprise to anybody, that some of the 1261 00:49:00,771 --> 00:49:01,871 -- The Press: On a federal level? 1262 00:49:01,872 --> 00:49:03,312 Mr. Earnest: Well, no, actually in that 1263 00:49:03,307 --> 00:49:04,507 community. 1264 00:49:04,508 --> 00:49:06,178 And don't think that's a surprise to anybody. 1265 00:49:06,176 --> 00:49:08,746 I think that so much of the turmoil that we saw 1266 00:49:08,745 --> 00:49:12,745 in that community over the summer and fall were not 1267 00:49:12,749 --> 00:49:17,059 the result of issues that had just cropped up; these 1268 00:49:17,054 --> 00:49:19,754 were issues that were long-simmering and erupted 1269 00:49:19,756 --> 00:49:24,366 in rather tragic ways into public view. 1270 00:49:24,361 --> 00:49:27,261 And the Department of Justice, as you know, 1271 00:49:27,264 --> 00:49:30,164 has been intensively involved in that local community, 1272 00:49:30,167 --> 00:49:31,867 trying to work through some of those issues. 1273 00:49:31,868 --> 00:49:35,668 And we're hopeful that the work of this commission 1274 00:49:35,672 --> 00:49:37,542 that the President has appointed will have some 1275 00:49:37,541 --> 00:49:40,311 very practical, tangible recommendations for 1276 00:49:40,310 --> 00:49:42,310 Ferguson and other communities all across 1277 00:49:42,312 --> 00:49:44,482 the country, large and small, for some ideas about 1278 00:49:44,481 --> 00:49:46,881 things they can do to try to head off these issues 1279 00:49:46,883 --> 00:49:49,123 before they erupt so violently in the way 1280 00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:50,119 that they did in Ferguson. 1281 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:51,720 The Press: And on a second, unrelated 1282 00:49:51,722 --> 00:49:54,392 question, you brought up Mitt Romney. 1283 00:49:54,391 --> 00:49:56,531 Well, Nedra asked about Mitt Romney and you spoke 1284 00:49:56,526 --> 00:49:59,796 very glowingly of him, saying he's a man of great 1285 00:49:59,796 --> 00:50:02,136 faith and it was a difficult decision, 1286 00:50:02,132 --> 00:50:03,772 things that you said. 1287 00:50:03,767 --> 00:50:05,637 And Jim asked -- brought up a really good point 1288 00:50:05,635 --> 00:50:07,275 about inclusion. 1289 00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:08,870 During his run for President against 1290 00:50:08,872 --> 00:50:11,772 President Obama, he was not known for inclusion 1291 00:50:11,775 --> 00:50:16,075 efforts, and with that, what does this White House 1292 00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:19,449 think of the crop of candidates running -- 1293 00:50:19,449 --> 00:50:22,019 be it Democrat or Republican -- as it relates 1294 00:50:22,018 --> 00:50:24,218 to inclusion and to include the issues that we're 1295 00:50:24,221 --> 00:50:26,021 seeing with Ferguson, what's happened in 1296 00:50:26,022 --> 00:50:32,232 New York, in Sanford, Florida, with Travon Martin, 1297 00:50:32,229 --> 00:50:34,929 and with Tamir Rice in Cleveland? 1298 00:50:34,931 --> 00:50:36,931 Does this administration feel that there's 1299 00:50:36,933 --> 00:50:39,833 a responsibility for these potential presidential 1300 00:50:39,836 --> 00:50:42,606 candidates to really reach out for inclusion versus 1301 00:50:42,606 --> 00:50:45,676 being a party for a single group of people? 1302 00:50:45,675 --> 00:50:48,375 Mr. Earnest: Well, April, I think the best way for 1303 00:50:48,378 --> 00:50:50,378 me to answer your question is to talk about the 1304 00:50:50,380 --> 00:50:51,380 President's experience. 1305 00:50:51,381 --> 00:50:53,381 And the President believed that the strength of his 1306 00:50:53,383 --> 00:50:55,423 campaign was built on the diversity of the support 1307 00:50:55,419 --> 00:50:58,359 that he enjoyed all across the country; that the 1308 00:50:58,355 --> 00:51:00,455 President's campaign had succeeded in energizing 1309 00:51:00,457 --> 00:51:02,457 people who hadn't been involved in politics 1310 00:51:02,459 --> 00:51:04,599 before; that we got Democrats and Republicans 1311 00:51:04,594 --> 00:51:06,594 and independents excited about the prospect of 1312 00:51:06,596 --> 00:51:08,996 being able to change their country. 1313 00:51:08,999 --> 00:51:12,039 And the President believes that ultimately, in 2008 1314 00:51:12,035 --> 00:51:16,005 and in 2012, that that was the key to his success. 1315 00:51:16,006 --> 00:51:19,546 And to the extent that the campaigns that are run 1316 00:51:19,543 --> 00:51:22,913 in 2016 are going to want to try to emulate successful 1317 00:51:22,913 --> 00:51:25,313 -- recent, successful president campaigns, then 1318 00:51:25,315 --> 00:51:27,685 a core element of those campaigns will need 1319 00:51:27,684 --> 00:51:32,654 to be predicated on building a diverse, inclusive 1320 00:51:32,656 --> 00:51:33,986 national campaign. 1321 00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:35,930 The Press: So are you saying that we're 1322 00:51:35,926 --> 00:51:38,526 in a time that there's no room for just focusing on one 1323 00:51:38,528 --> 00:51:39,968 group of people? 1324 00:51:39,963 --> 00:51:41,833 Mr. Earnest: Well, what I'm saying is that 1325 00:51:41,832 --> 00:51:43,732 ultimately the people who will run in the 2016 campaigns 1326 00:51:43,733 --> 00:51:47,273 are going to have to devise their own strategy. 1327 00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:49,270 But I can tell you that when the President devised 1328 00:51:49,272 --> 00:51:53,782 his strategy in 2008 and 2012, that one of the most 1329 00:51:53,777 --> 00:51:56,917 important elements of that strategy was building an 1330 00:51:56,913 --> 00:51:59,013 inclusive campaign that reflected the kind of 1331 00:51:59,015 --> 00:52:02,485 diverse support that he wanted to earn from voters 1332 00:52:02,486 --> 00:52:05,226 and supporters all across the country. 1333 00:52:05,222 --> 00:52:06,222 Francesca. 1334 00:52:06,223 --> 00:52:08,223 The Press: Yes, speaking of people who might 1335 00:52:08,225 --> 00:52:11,065 potentially be running for President, Joe Biden -- 1336 00:52:11,061 --> 00:52:13,131 when he was at the Democratic conference, 1337 00:52:13,129 --> 00:52:15,799 he said, to state the obvious, the past six years 1338 00:52:15,799 --> 00:52:18,569 have been really, really hard for this country. 1339 00:52:18,568 --> 00:52:21,268 What was Vice President Biden trying to say there? 1340 00:52:21,271 --> 00:52:23,311 I mean, the past six years this President has been 1341 00:52:23,306 --> 00:52:25,406 in charge of the country. 1342 00:52:25,408 --> 00:52:26,448 Mr. Earnest: Francesca, I think what the 1343 00:52:26,443 --> 00:52:28,843 Vice President was observing is that it's been very 1344 00:52:28,845 --> 00:52:30,645 difficult to dig out of the financial crisis that 1345 00:52:30,647 --> 00:52:33,287 this President inherited when he took office and 1346 00:52:33,283 --> 00:52:35,753 that it has been hard work to dig out of that 1347 00:52:35,752 --> 00:52:36,752 financial crisis. 1348 00:52:36,753 --> 00:52:38,793 And because of the grit and determination of the 1349 00:52:38,788 --> 00:52:40,888 American people and American workers, 1350 00:52:40,891 --> 00:52:42,961 because of the policies that this administration put 1351 00:52:42,959 --> 00:52:46,259 in place, our economy has bounced back stronger than ever. 1352 00:52:46,263 --> 00:52:48,763 And we've laid a new foundation that we need 1353 00:52:48,765 --> 00:52:50,765 to capitalize on, and the President is hopeful that 1354 00:52:50,767 --> 00:52:52,507 on top of that new foundation, 1355 00:52:52,502 --> 00:52:54,502 we can actually put in place policies that are 1356 00:52:54,504 --> 00:52:56,504 going to benefit middle-class families. 1357 00:52:56,506 --> 00:52:58,506 And whether it's opening up the doors 1358 00:52:58,508 --> 00:53:00,508 to a college education to more middle-class families; 1359 00:53:00,510 --> 00:53:02,510 making it easier for middle-class families 1360 00:53:02,512 --> 00:53:04,512 to save for retirement; helping middle-class 1361 00:53:04,514 --> 00:53:06,514 families stretch a paychecks -- stretch 1362 00:53:06,516 --> 00:53:08,516 their paychecks, particularly if both mom and dad are working. 1363 00:53:08,518 --> 00:53:10,518 There are a number of policies we can put 1364 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,520 in place that will be in the best interest 1365 00:53:12,522 --> 00:53:14,522 of middle-class families and that's an opportunity 1366 00:53:14,524 --> 00:53:16,524 that we have now that we have recovered 1367 00:53:16,526 --> 00:53:18,496 from a terrible financial crisis. 1368 00:53:18,495 --> 00:53:20,495 The Press: Well, you're very clear, 1369 00:53:20,497 --> 00:53:22,497 but on a related note, the Democrats are having 1370 00:53:22,499 --> 00:53:24,799 a panel today called, "Where Do We Go From Here?" 1371 00:53:24,801 --> 00:53:26,771 Does that suggest that the rest of the 1372 00:53:26,770 --> 00:53:29,940 Democratic Party, especially congressional democrats, 1373 00:53:29,940 --> 00:53:31,940 are adrift and they don't know where the party is going? 1374 00:53:31,942 --> 00:53:33,942 Mr. Earnest: Well, I don't speak for all the 1375 00:53:33,944 --> 00:53:35,944 Democrats; I speak for just the most powerful 1376 00:53:35,946 --> 00:53:37,246 Democrat in the world. 1377 00:53:37,247 --> 00:53:38,117 (laughter) 1378 00:53:38,114 --> 00:53:39,454 And I can tell you that he's very clear 1379 00:53:39,449 --> 00:53:42,719 about where he wants to take the country. 1380 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:43,689 Ching-Yi. 1381 00:53:43,687 --> 00:53:44,717 The Press: Thank you, Josh. 1382 00:53:44,721 --> 00:53:47,561 I have a question regarding the Asia Pacific, actually. 1383 00:53:47,557 --> 00:53:51,127 Yesterday, U.S. Seventh Fleet Commander, 1384 00:53:51,127 --> 00:53:56,337 Admiral Robert Thomas, told Reuters that the 1385 00:53:56,333 --> 00:54:01,673 U.S. would welcome Japan patrols in the South China Sea. 1386 00:54:01,671 --> 00:54:04,041 And the Chinese government has a reaction to that. 1387 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,610 And China's English newspaper also reacts 1388 00:54:07,611 --> 00:54:11,111 strongly by saying that Washington has 1389 00:54:11,114 --> 00:54:16,824 no authority to draw Japan in, and also if Japan did 1390 00:54:16,820 --> 00:54:20,720 send air patrols to South China Sea, China 1391 00:54:20,724 --> 00:54:27,034 would counter that action and also announce to establish 1392 00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:31,030 a South China Sea air defense zone. 1393 00:54:31,034 --> 00:54:36,144 So is this a new strategy for Obama administration 1394 00:54:36,139 --> 00:54:39,639 to involve Japan's military into South China Sea? 1395 00:54:39,643 --> 00:54:45,683 And is there any change of your Asia rebalance policy? 1396 00:54:45,682 --> 00:54:47,082 Mr. Earnest: Ching-Yi, I'm not aware of the 1397 00:54:47,083 --> 00:54:48,883 specific report that you've raised, but I can tell you 1398 00:54:48,885 --> 00:54:51,125 that the administration policy that we have sought 1399 00:54:51,121 --> 00:54:55,321 to pursue is to make sure that disputes that are 1400 00:54:55,325 --> 00:54:58,025 arising in the South China Sea are resolved 1401 00:54:58,028 --> 00:55:00,598 peacefully; that the South China Sea is a zone 1402 00:55:00,597 --> 00:55:04,337 of commerce that's critically important to the global economy. 1403 00:55:04,334 --> 00:55:06,734 And ensuring that commerce can be conducted in that 1404 00:55:06,736 --> 00:55:10,376 region of the world is in the clear interest of the 1405 00:55:10,373 --> 00:55:13,073 largest economies in the world, including China, 1406 00:55:13,076 --> 00:55:14,206 Japan and the United States. 1407 00:55:14,210 --> 00:55:16,910 So we all have an interest in making sure that those 1408 00:55:16,913 --> 00:55:19,413 disputes are resolved peacefully and in a way 1409 00:55:19,416 --> 00:55:21,986 that will allow commerce to continue unimpeded 1410 00:55:21,985 --> 00:55:22,985 in that region of the world. 1411 00:55:22,986 --> 00:55:24,986 The Press: So will the U.S. support Japan 1412 00:55:24,988 --> 00:55:27,388 to air patrol in South China Sea? 1413 00:55:27,390 --> 00:55:29,730 Mr. Earnest: Again, I haven't seen that specific 1414 00:55:29,726 --> 00:55:31,726 prospect being raised but let me see if I can have 1415 00:55:31,728 --> 00:55:33,728 my colleagues at the National Security Council 1416 00:55:33,730 --> 00:55:34,730 get back to you on it. 1417 00:55:34,731 --> 00:55:35,661 Cheryl. 1418 00:55:35,665 --> 00:55:36,835 The Press: Yes, thanks. 1419 00:55:36,833 --> 00:55:38,603 Last night, one of the other messages from 1420 00:55:38,601 --> 00:55:40,341 the President was DHS, 1421 00:55:40,336 --> 00:55:42,936 Department of Homeland Security funding. 1422 00:55:42,939 --> 00:55:45,709 But what can Democrats do at this point, and have 1423 00:55:45,709 --> 00:55:47,549 you heard anything new from Republicans 1424 00:55:47,544 --> 00:55:49,514 on where that's headed? 1425 00:55:49,512 --> 00:55:50,582 Mr. Earnest: Yes, unfortunately, we have 1426 00:55:50,580 --> 00:55:52,580 not heard anything new from Republicans. 1427 00:55:52,582 --> 00:55:55,552 As I mentioned earlier, Republicans -- I guess 1428 00:55:55,552 --> 00:55:58,652 this was yesterday that we discussed this previously 1429 00:55:58,655 --> 00:56:00,655 -- the Republicans spent a lot of time trying to 1430 00:56:00,657 --> 00:56:02,657 campaign so that they could have the majority 1431 00:56:02,659 --> 00:56:04,659 in the House of Representatives and the 1432 00:56:04,661 --> 00:56:06,661 majority in the United States Senate, and that 1433 00:56:06,663 --> 00:56:08,663 they promised that they would show the country the 1434 00:56:08,665 --> 00:56:12,535 kind of leadership that the Republican Party stands for. 1435 00:56:12,535 --> 00:56:15,975 But less than a month into this new era of Republican 1436 00:56:15,972 --> 00:56:18,812 majorities in both Houses of Congress we see that 1437 00:56:18,808 --> 00:56:21,348 Republicans are saying it's not that big 1438 00:56:21,344 --> 00:56:23,344 of a deal if they don't fund the 1439 00:56:23,346 --> 00:56:25,346 Department of Homeland Security. 1440 00:56:25,348 --> 00:56:27,348 I can tell you that it's a pretty big deal 1441 00:56:27,350 --> 00:56:28,380 to a border patrol officer. 1442 00:56:28,384 --> 00:56:30,384 If he's going to be expected to show 1443 00:56:30,386 --> 00:56:32,386 up to work, protect the country, but not get his 1444 00:56:32,388 --> 00:56:34,128 paycheck for doing so. 1445 00:56:34,124 --> 00:56:36,124 It certainly is a pretty big deal for the 1446 00:56:36,126 --> 00:56:38,126 President, that in a time when we're dealing with 1447 00:56:38,128 --> 00:56:41,068 some pretty significant national security 1448 00:56:41,064 --> 00:56:43,264 challenges, that we're not giving the 1449 00:56:43,266 --> 00:56:45,736 Department of Homeland Security the flexibility and certainty 1450 00:56:45,735 --> 00:56:48,375 that they need to carry out their mission because 1451 00:56:48,371 --> 00:56:50,041 they don't have a budget. 1452 00:56:50,039 --> 00:56:53,379 So, again, if Republicans want to take some 1453 00:56:53,376 --> 00:56:55,516 responsibility, as they said they did when 1454 00:56:55,512 --> 00:56:58,752 they were running for the majority, we hope 1455 00:56:58,748 --> 00:57:00,948 that they understand that a basic responsibility 1456 00:57:00,950 --> 00:57:03,390 that they have is to protect the country, 1457 00:57:03,386 --> 00:57:05,686 and to protect our homeland security, and to make sure 1458 00:57:05,688 --> 00:57:07,688 that the agency that's charged with 1459 00:57:07,690 --> 00:57:10,330 homeland security is properly funded. 1460 00:57:10,326 --> 00:57:11,466 Olivier. 1461 00:57:11,461 --> 00:57:12,661 The Press: Josh, I've got a couple for you. 1462 00:57:12,662 --> 00:57:14,662 First, in the spirit of the President's repeated 1463 00:57:14,664 --> 00:57:17,904 calls for raising taxes on the most well-off 1464 00:57:17,901 --> 00:57:19,901 in America, will the President support 1465 00:57:19,903 --> 00:57:21,903 legislation that would strip the NFL 1466 00:57:21,905 --> 00:57:22,905 of its tax-exempt status? 1467 00:57:22,906 --> 00:57:25,646 Mr. Earnest: Olivier, I haven't seen that specific 1468 00:57:25,642 --> 00:57:30,312 proposal but maybe after the President rolls out 1469 00:57:30,313 --> 00:57:32,313 his budget we'll have more to say about this. 1470 00:57:32,315 --> 00:57:35,715 The Press: And then secondly and unrelated, 1471 00:57:35,718 --> 00:57:37,718 over the last six years if you and I wanted 1472 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,060 to discuss the President's policy in Afghanistan 1473 00:57:40,056 --> 00:57:42,996 we'd be able to draw on a wealth of data compiled 1474 00:57:42,992 --> 00:57:44,562 by the Special Inspector General in charge 1475 00:57:44,561 --> 00:57:46,531 of Afghan Reconstruction. 1476 00:57:46,529 --> 00:57:48,369 Specifically, if we wanted to discuss the recruitment 1477 00:57:48,364 --> 00:57:50,364 training equipment of Afghan forces, 1478 00:57:50,366 --> 00:57:52,406 we'd be able to draw on data of how many people 1479 00:57:52,402 --> 00:57:55,842 are in the field, what is their status, we can't anymore 1480 00:57:55,839 --> 00:57:58,309 because -- with apparently this White House's 1481 00:57:58,308 --> 00:58:00,948 blessing now the NATO command has classified 1482 00:58:00,944 --> 00:58:02,814 information they used to make public. 1483 00:58:02,812 --> 00:58:05,482 Will the President reverse that decision? 1484 00:58:05,481 --> 00:58:09,251 And how are we supposed to hold this administration 1485 00:58:09,252 --> 00:58:10,752 and this policy to account if we can't get 1486 00:58:10,753 --> 00:58:11,923 this information? 1487 00:58:11,921 --> 00:58:13,361 Mr. Earnest: I have to admit, Olivier, I'm not 1488 00:58:13,356 --> 00:58:14,926 aware of this specific issue, but we can take 1489 00:58:14,924 --> 00:58:17,064 a look into it for you. 1490 00:58:17,060 --> 00:58:19,300 And the President has made it a priority to try 1491 00:58:19,295 --> 00:58:21,795 to be more transparent and that has included trying 1492 00:58:21,798 --> 00:58:24,168 to limit the over-classification -- 1493 00:58:24,167 --> 00:58:28,167 there is a tendency to classify data in a way 1494 00:58:28,171 --> 00:58:31,541 that ultimately upon further review isn't necessary. 1495 00:58:31,541 --> 00:58:33,541 I don't know whether or not this is one of those 1496 00:58:33,543 --> 00:58:35,713 situations, but we can take a look into it and 1497 00:58:35,712 --> 00:58:36,512 get back to you. 1498 00:58:36,512 --> 00:58:37,082 The Press: I appreciate that. 1499 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,280 Mark. 1500 00:58:38,281 --> 00:58:40,621 The Press: One more on the President's speech last night. 1501 00:58:40,617 --> 00:58:43,757 He said there is no economic metric by which 1502 00:58:43,753 --> 00:58:45,853 we are not better off. 1503 00:58:45,855 --> 00:58:48,895 Now does he include the national debt in that? 1504 00:58:48,892 --> 00:58:53,432 Mr. Earnest: Well, what the President has noted 1505 00:58:53,429 --> 00:58:56,829 is that when you evaluate the deficit, the deficit has 1506 00:58:56,833 --> 00:58:59,733 actually fallen by two-thirds since he's taken office. 1507 00:58:59,736 --> 00:59:01,736 And the way that we measure that is the way 1508 00:59:01,738 --> 00:59:03,508 that economists evaluate it. 1509 00:59:03,506 --> 00:59:07,446 They don't look at just the sum total; what they 1510 00:59:07,443 --> 00:59:10,583 do is they evaluate the deficit as a percentage 1511 00:59:10,580 --> 00:59:13,150 of the economy -- that that's a more effective 1512 00:59:13,149 --> 00:59:17,049 and precise way to evaluate the impact of the deficit 1513 00:59:17,053 --> 00:59:18,053 on our economy. 1514 00:59:18,054 --> 00:59:23,124 And by that measure, the deficit has been brought 1515 00:59:23,126 --> 00:59:25,696 down by two-thirds since the President took office. 1516 00:59:25,695 --> 00:59:28,095 The Press: What about the debt, which has gone 1517 00:59:28,097 --> 00:59:29,997 up 70 percent on his watch? 1518 00:59:29,999 --> 00:59:32,799 Mr. Earnest: Yes, well, I don't know what the 1519 00:59:32,802 --> 00:59:38,442 measure is of the debt as it relates to when you 1520 00:59:38,441 --> 00:59:41,841 measure it as a percentage of the economy. 1521 00:59:41,844 --> 00:59:43,844 But I can tell you that the President continues 1522 00:59:43,846 --> 00:59:48,616 to be committed to the kinds of fiscally responsible 1523 00:59:48,618 --> 00:59:50,718 policies that were important to getting 1524 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,720 our debt and deficit under control when the 1525 00:59:52,722 --> 00:59:53,922 President first took office. 1526 00:59:53,923 --> 00:59:56,593 And that includes, as somebody mentioned 1527 00:59:56,592 --> 00:59:59,162 a little earlier, raising taxes on those at the top 1528 00:59:59,162 --> 01:00:01,462 so that we can offer some tax cuts to the middle 1529 01:00:01,464 --> 01:00:04,534 class; that by closing loopholes and making our 1530 01:00:04,534 --> 01:00:06,634 tax code a little bit more fair, we can also make 1531 01:00:06,636 --> 01:00:08,636 it a little easier for middle-class families 1532 01:00:08,638 --> 01:00:10,638 to make their ends meet, and we can do that in a way 1533 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,640 that does exacerbate the federal deficit. 1534 01:00:12,642 --> 01:00:16,242 The Press: Might he concede that the debt 1535 01:00:16,245 --> 01:00:18,785 is not a metric that shows we're better off? 1536 01:00:18,781 --> 01:00:22,751 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think he would concede, 1537 01:00:22,752 --> 01:00:25,952 as I would, that the raw math shows that the debt has 1538 01:00:25,955 --> 01:00:27,325 increased. 1539 01:00:27,323 --> 01:00:29,393 But the steps that the President has taken have 1540 01:00:29,392 --> 01:00:32,762 been important to improving our fiscal picture. 1541 01:00:32,762 --> 01:00:33,802 Chris, I'll give you the last one. 1542 01:00:33,802 --> 01:00:34,642 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 1543 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,360 On Wednesday, the Senate Armed Service Committee 1544 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,360 will hold a confirmation hearing for 1545 01:00:38,362 --> 01:00:40,362 Ashton Carter as Defense Secretary. 1546 01:00:40,362 --> 01:00:42,362 LGBT advocates have been calling for two things 1547 01:00:42,362 --> 01:00:43,362 that will be under his purview: 1548 01:00:43,361 --> 01:00:45,701 Openly transgender service and a non-discrimination rule 1549 01:00:45,701 --> 01:00:47,201 for LGBT servicemembers. 1550 01:00:47,201 --> 01:00:49,441 Do you anticipate the President's nominee will 1551 01:00:49,445 --> 01:00:50,885 address those things during the hearing? 1552 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,720 Mr. Earnest: If asked, I'm sure that he will. 1553 01:00:52,715 --> 01:00:54,185 The Press: Will he volunteer this in some 1554 01:00:54,183 --> 01:00:56,353 capacity do you think? 1555 01:00:56,352 --> 01:00:57,452 Mr. Earnest: Well, I don't know that there's a lot 1556 01:00:57,453 --> 01:00:58,693 of volunteering that goes on in those kinds 1557 01:00:58,688 --> 01:01:02,758 of settings, I think usually they're asked questions -- 1558 01:01:02,759 --> 01:01:04,759 and I'm sure that he'll answer them if he's given 1559 01:01:04,761 --> 01:01:05,761 the opportunity to do so. 1560 01:01:05,762 --> 01:01:07,762 So, one thing you could do is you could go and 1561 01:01:07,764 --> 01:01:09,904 ask members of Congress if they're going to ask him. 1562 01:01:09,899 --> 01:01:12,399 The Press: In other news, federal contractor 1563 01:01:12,402 --> 01:01:14,542 Exxon Mobile today announced that it has adopted 1564 01:01:14,537 --> 01:01:17,077 an LGBT inclusive non-discrimination policy 1565 01:01:17,073 --> 01:01:18,843 for its workers. 1566 01:01:18,841 --> 01:01:20,811 This follows the executive order the President signed 1567 01:01:20,810 --> 01:01:23,980 in July to prohibit LGBT discrimination among 1568 01:01:23,980 --> 01:01:25,110 federal contractors. 1569 01:01:25,114 --> 01:01:27,284 Does the President deserve credit for this change? 1570 01:01:27,283 --> 01:01:28,383 Mr. Earnest: Well, I was not aware of that news 1571 01:01:28,384 --> 01:01:31,024 until you just informed me -- but I guess that 1572 01:01:31,020 --> 01:01:33,390 is your profession. 1573 01:01:33,389 --> 01:01:35,389 What I will say is I do think this 1574 01:01:35,391 --> 01:01:37,991 is an indication of something that we have talked about 1575 01:01:37,994 --> 01:01:44,034 quite a bit, that there is -- that there are a number 1576 01:01:44,033 --> 01:01:46,033 of ways that the President can advance the kind 1577 01:01:46,035 --> 01:01:48,035 of agenda that he thinks is in the best interest 1578 01:01:48,037 --> 01:01:49,037 of the country. 1579 01:01:49,038 --> 01:01:51,038 Sometimes that's by passing legislation that 1580 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,910 would apply broadly across the economy and across the country. 1581 01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:56,610 Sometimes it's about the President taking action 1582 01:01:56,612 --> 01:01:58,612 that applies only to the federal government and 1583 01:01:58,614 --> 01:02:02,754 using that as a model for other businesses that are 1584 01:02:02,752 --> 01:02:05,592 considering -- or other entities that are 1585 01:02:05,588 --> 01:02:07,158 considering similar action. 1586 01:02:07,156 --> 01:02:09,156 So we've seen this when it came to the minimum wage, 1587 01:02:09,158 --> 01:02:11,158 that the President was able to raise the minimum 1588 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,400 wage for federal contractors, and that 1589 01:02:14,397 --> 01:02:16,797 in conjunction with that, we saw that other states said 1590 01:02:16,799 --> 01:02:19,439 that's probably a good idea in our states. 1591 01:02:19,435 --> 01:02:21,435 Or voters in other states said, we should raise the 1592 01:02:21,437 --> 01:02:22,437 minimum wage in our states. 1593 01:02:22,438 --> 01:02:25,578 So, there is a way for the President to use his 1594 01:02:25,575 --> 01:02:28,715 executive authority in a way that may, at the 1595 01:02:28,711 --> 01:02:31,281 beginning, have only a limited effect, but does 1596 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:35,520 serve to motivate and in some cases even inspire 1597 01:02:35,518 --> 01:02:37,518 other states or other companies or other 1598 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,090 organizations to take similar steps. 1599 01:02:40,089 --> 01:02:43,329 And certainly the -- we're gratified by the success 1600 01:02:43,326 --> 01:02:45,526 that we've had when it comes to pushing other 1601 01:02:45,528 --> 01:02:47,528 states to raise the minimum wage or states 1602 01:02:47,530 --> 01:02:52,600 to expand access to quality early childhood education. 1603 01:02:52,602 --> 01:02:54,202 And it's possible, based on what you've described 1604 01:02:54,203 --> 01:02:56,073 to me, that this may be an example of that as well. 1605 01:02:56,072 --> 01:02:57,342 The Press: I just want to go back to my first 1606 01:02:57,340 --> 01:02:59,180 question because I wasn't really satisfied with that response. 1607 01:02:59,175 --> 01:03:01,445 Those two issues of openly transgender service and -- 1608 01:03:01,444 --> 01:03:02,344 Mr. Earnest: There's a lot of that in this building 1609 01:03:02,345 --> 01:03:03,075 it sometimes. 1610 01:03:03,079 --> 01:03:04,079 (laughter) 1611 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:05,920 It's okay, it's part of my profession. 1612 01:03:05,915 --> 01:03:06,915 The Press: -- the LGBT non-discrimination policy. 1613 01:03:06,916 --> 01:03:08,316 Do you think those are two things that the Pentagon 1614 01:03:08,317 --> 01:03:10,017 can implement either before or after confirmations? 1615 01:03:10,019 --> 01:03:11,189 Mr. Earnest: I don't know, you'll have to check with 1616 01:03:11,187 --> 01:03:12,187 the Pentagon about that. 1617 01:03:12,188 --> 01:03:13,118 Okay? 1618 01:03:13,122 --> 01:03:14,722 Why don't we do a week ahead before we go? 1619 01:03:14,724 --> 01:03:15,754 The Press: Josh, the Super Bowl plans? 1620 01:03:15,758 --> 01:03:16,998 The President's guests? 1621 01:03:16,993 --> 01:03:18,393 Mr. Earnest: The President will be here at the 1622 01:03:18,394 --> 01:03:19,764 White House to watch the Super Bowl with some friends 1623 01:03:19,762 --> 01:03:21,232 and family. 1624 01:03:21,230 --> 01:03:23,700 As you may know, the President on Sunday will 1625 01:03:23,699 --> 01:03:26,799 be doing an interview with NBC's Savannah Guthrie. 1626 01:03:26,802 --> 01:03:29,772 That will be, I think, around 4:30 on Sunday, 1627 01:03:29,772 --> 01:03:31,842 it'll be aired live so those of you who are 1628 01:03:31,841 --> 01:03:33,911 watching the Super Bowl should tune in for that. 1629 01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:35,280 The Press: But is it going to be a party? 1630 01:03:35,278 --> 01:03:35,938 Mr. Earnest: I'm sorry. 1631 01:03:35,940 --> 01:03:37,080 The Press: Not just a gathering, is it going 1632 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:38,010 to be a party -- 1633 01:03:38,020 --> 01:03:38,850 Mr. Earnest: I think they're hoping to have 1634 01:03:38,860 --> 01:03:39,460 a little fun while they're watching the 1635 01:03:39,461 --> 01:03:40,501 football game. 1636 01:03:40,501 --> 01:03:41,561 The Press: You know what I'm talking about. 1637 01:03:41,561 --> 01:03:42,651 Mr. Earnest: I'm not sure that I totally do. 1638 01:03:42,652 --> 01:03:43,722 (laughter) 1639 01:03:43,719 --> 01:03:44,959 The Press: Large numbers of people, 1640 01:03:44,954 --> 01:03:48,494 big-screen TVs, popcorn, pretzels, all that stuff, 1641 01:03:48,491 --> 01:03:49,591 like it's been in the past. 1642 01:03:49,592 --> 01:03:50,662 Mr. Earnest: I think there will be some of that, yes. 1643 01:03:50,660 --> 01:03:51,830 The Press: Okay. 1644 01:03:51,827 --> 01:03:53,527 Mr. Earnest: On Monday, the President will deliver 1645 01:03:53,529 --> 01:03:55,929 remarks on the FY 2016 budget at the 1646 01:03:55,932 --> 01:03:58,802 Department of Homeland Security. 1647 01:03:58,801 --> 01:04:00,571 That will be an opportunity for the 1648 01:04:00,570 --> 01:04:02,100 President to make the case once again that 1649 01:04:02,104 --> 01:04:03,974 it's important for Republicans to not allow funding 1650 01:04:03,973 --> 01:04:05,573 for the Department of Homeland Security to lapse 1651 01:04:05,575 --> 01:04:07,645 at the end of February. 1652 01:04:07,643 --> 01:04:09,013 In the afternoon, the President will welcome 1653 01:04:09,011 --> 01:04:12,711 the 2014 NHL Champion Los Angeles Kings and the 1654 01:04:12,715 --> 01:04:18,755 2014 MLS Cup Champion L.A. Galaxy 1655 01:04:18,754 --> 01:04:20,324 to honor the teams on winning their 1656 01:04:20,323 --> 01:04:21,693 championship titles. 1657 01:04:21,691 --> 01:04:23,021 Thank goodness it's Friday. 1658 01:04:23,025 --> 01:04:24,895 This visit will continue the tradition begun 1659 01:04:24,894 --> 01:04:26,494 by President Obama of honoring sports teams 1660 01:04:26,495 --> 01:04:29,135 for their efforts to give back to their communities. 1661 01:04:29,131 --> 01:04:30,731 On Tuesday, the President here at the White House 1662 01:04:30,733 --> 01:04:32,773 will hold a cabinet meeting. 1663 01:04:32,768 --> 01:04:34,368 On Wednesday, the President will attend 1664 01:04:34,370 --> 01:04:35,840 meetings at the White House. 1665 01:04:35,838 --> 01:04:37,408 On Thursday, the President is looking forward 1666 01:04:37,406 --> 01:04:40,176 to delivering remarks at the National Prayer Breakfast. 1667 01:04:40,176 --> 01:04:41,976 The First Lady will also attend. 1668 01:04:41,978 --> 01:04:43,308 And on Friday, the President will attend 1669 01:04:43,312 --> 01:04:44,652 meetings at the White House. 1670 01:04:44,647 --> 01:04:46,247 Have a great weekend, everybody.