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Mr. Carney:
It's a packed house.

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Thanks for bearing
with us today.

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A lot going on at
the White House.

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Before I take your questions
I just wanted to note that the

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President and the Vice President
completed a very productive

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meeting with law enforcement
officers, chiefs of police,

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and sheriffs from
around the country,

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including from Oak Creek,
Wisconsin; Aurora, Colorado;

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and Newtown, Connecticut, as
well as the head of the Major

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Cities Police Chiefs
organization and the Major

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Counties Sheriffs organization.

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This all as part of the effort
the President has undertaken to

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press forward on common-sense
measures that can help reduce

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the scourge of gun
violence in this country.

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Separately, I wanted to say
that the President welcomes the

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efforts by the bipartisan group
in the Senate to put forward

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principles on the need for
comprehensive immigration reform

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-- principles that mirror the
President's blueprint, which,

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as you know, he has been
pressing for some time,

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which has been available on
WhiteHouse.gov since 2011.

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The President believes it is
very important that we move

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forward on comprehensive
immigration reform.

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It's the right thing to do for
the country, for our economy.

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It's the right thing to do out
of fairness to the middle class

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to make sure that everyone
plays by the same set of rules.

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He, in keeping with I think what
you've recognized as an approach

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that we take to these issues,
the President is traveling to

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Nevada tomorrow where he will
continue a conversation with the

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American people about how we
need to move forward and why we

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need to move forward with
comprehensive immigration

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reform, why it's important.

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It's something that he talked
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he campaigned on this.

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And it is something that he has
spoken about quite frequently

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since his reelection and made
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this early in his second term.

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It's now the second week of
his second term and he is

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acting on it.

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With that, I will
take your questions.

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The Press:
Thank you.

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On immigration,
the Senate group,

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in addition to putting
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also says that they're aiming to
have a bill together by March.

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Since there is a timeline now,
a bipartisan timeline for a bill

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on the Hill, does the President
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forward a bill?

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Or is he leaning towards putting
out just broad principles?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, let me say a
couple of things.

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First of all, he has put
forward quite substantial

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detail already.

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I think the number of pages that
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dedicated to this
subject is more than 25,

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and reflects the kind of
detailed approach that the

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President has long
taken on this issue.

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On the first point, we
welcome movement and progress,

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and there is no reason to delay
on moving forward with this.

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The President has supported
it for a long a time.

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It fell short in 2010 because of
congressional opposition to it.

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And he believes that we are at a
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be support coalescing at a
bipartisan level behind the very

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principles that he has long put
forward and behind principles

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that have in the past
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that appear are now again to
be winning bipartisan support.

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And that is a very
positive thing.

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I'm not going to negotiate
legislative tactics from here,

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but we will be working with
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both parties to help bring about
a result that is a detailed,

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specific bill that can win
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and that this
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that meets the very specific
principles this President has

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put forward.

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The Press:
So is what we're going to see
from the President tomorrow,

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is that a reiteration of
his principles, not a bill?

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Mr. Carney:
What you'll see tomorrow from
the President is the very

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important part of this effort
that is about engaging the

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American people.

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Now, the American people support
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reform, but as with all the
things that we debate in

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Washington, we need to --
the President believes --

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explain them, talk about them
with the American people and

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engage with the American people
to make sure they understand

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where we're headed and why,
and that's what the President

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intends to do tomorrow.

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The Press:
I just wanted to ask
one question on Egypt.

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In the President's "60 Minutes"
interview he said that if it

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hadn't been for the
leadership the U.S. showed,

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we might have seen a
different outcome there.

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How does that square with what
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past couple of days with
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President Morsi implementing
curfews and state of emergency?

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Is that the type of outcome
the U.S. expects and favors

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in Egypt?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, let's back up a little
bit and talk about the specific

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things that you reference.

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We strongly condemn the recent
violence that has taken place in

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various Egyptian cities.

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We extend our condolences to
the families of those who were

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killed and to those
who were injured.

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We look to all Egyptians to
express themselves peacefully,

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and for all Egyptian leaders
to make clear that violence is

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not acceptable.

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We welcome serious calls for
national dialogue to avoid

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further violence and to find
peaceful means to move forward

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with the political process
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Egyptians participated in
their revolution to bring about

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democracy and freedom,
not to pursue their goals

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through violence.

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We urge all Egyptians to
peacefully utilize the

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democratic process as they
continue to engage with

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their government.

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We have been clear
about what we stand for.

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We have engaged directly with
the Egyptian government as they

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move forward on the difficult
path towards greater democracy

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and rule of law, and we
will continue to do so.

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Yes, Reuters.

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The Press:
There was a very -- one
noteworthy difference between

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what the group of senators is
proposing today and what was in

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that 29-page blueprint on
the White House website,

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and that is that the bipartisan
group proposes the path to

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citizenship be conditioned on
tighter border control measures.

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Now, does the President accept
that kind of a linkage would

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have to come to get a deal?

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Mr. Carney:
First of all, I think you glided
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this, which is that the set of
principles put forward by this

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bipartisan group embraces
the path to citizenship.

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This is a big deal.

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This is an important
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This is in keeping with the
principles the President has

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been espousing for a long time,
in keeping with bipartisan

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efforts in the past and with the
effort this President believes

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has to end in a law
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When it comes to
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I think anyone who looks at
this honestly will note the

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tremendous strides we have
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protecting our borders.

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In fact, they have never
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they are now.

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And over the past four years
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dedicated unprecedented
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taken important steps to
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enforcement of our immigration
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And we have made historic
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technology and infrastructure
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And, like I said, our borders
now are more secure than they

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have ever been in history.

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That work continues.

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But I think it's important,
before we let the moment pass,

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to acknowledge that the progress
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principles put forward by this
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for a reason.

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And I think it's happening
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developing in the country,
a bipartisan consensus;

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and it's happening because
the President has demonstrated

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significant leadership
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When the effort to achieve
comprehensive immigration reform

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did not succeed in 2010,
this President continued to

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press forward.

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He has given speeches
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He put out his detailed
blueprint online and he made

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clear in the campaign last
year that this would be a top

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priority of his in
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And he is keeping that
commitment by pressing

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forward today.

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This is an important first step
that we've seen from Congress.

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We need to continue
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Going to Julie's question about
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the goal here is not for
everyone just to get together

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and say we share
common principles,

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but to achieve legislation that
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a way that can earn the support
of Congress and earn the

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signature of this President.

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The Press:
Point taken that, yes, we're
seeing a bipartisan consensus

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that there should be a path to
citizenship and that we haven't

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seen that in years.

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But my question is about the
linkage between that these

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senators, this proposal says we
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path to citizenship to anyone
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actually increased to a level
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Will that linkage be accepted?

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Mr. Carney:
I'm not going to -- we're
not at a stage here where,

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especially from
the briefing room,

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we're going to negotiate details
of legislation that doesn't

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yet exist.

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I think what is positive about
this discussion is that a

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bipartisan group in the Senate
has embraced the principles

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that the President has long
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When we talk about issues
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instead of waiting until now
as this effort gets underway to

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address border
security challenges,

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this President in his first term
has aggressively addressed those

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challenges and taken historic
steps to creating a situation

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where we have tighter border
security than we've ever had.

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That work will continue and we
look forward to working with

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Congress on legislation, on
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and on the other important
elements of immigration reform

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that have to be part of
a comprehensive package.

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Jessica.

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The Press:
Does the President specifically
think the pathway to citizenship

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for the 11 million should be
pre-conditioned on a council of

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experts determining whether
border security is sufficient?

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Mr. Carney:
I appreciate the question.

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I think I have answered it to
the very best of my ability in

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response to questions from Matt.

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Border security is
an important issue.

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The President has demonstrated
that he doesn't believe that

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just in theory --

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The Press:
So you won't address
specifically the idea of

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the council?

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Mr. Carney:
There's not a -- look, I
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I'm not diminishing it.

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It's a welcome thing.

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We saw a four-page statement
of principles that is a very

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positive development.

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The President has a -- I think
Matt said 29-page comprehensive

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blueprint that's online.

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And we will work with Congress,
with both parties in both houses

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to achieve the kind of
bipartisan bill that we need.

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The Press:
Doesn't it step on the
President's proposal by doing

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this today?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, again, the President's
principles and blueprint have

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been out for a long time.

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This is not a new issue
for the President.

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He has been pushing
it for a long time.

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We have been working with this
very group and talking with them

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about the progress.

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And as I think you could tell
from the tone of my opening

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statement, we welcome this.

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We think this is positive.

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This demonstrates that --

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The Press:
Do you still intend to unveil
the amount of detail you were

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planning to unveil about
your immigration legislation?

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Mr. Carney:
We are proceeding as we
always intended to proceed.

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And we always hoped that as we
move forward with this effort

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that we would have with us
members of Congress of both

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parties, important members of
Congress of both parties who

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support the principle of
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immigration reform, support
the component elements of that.

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And that's what we're
seeing, and that's a very

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positive development.

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The Press:
On a different topic, how
often does the President go

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skeet shooting?

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(laughter)

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And are there photographs
of him doing so?

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Mr. Carney:
I would refer you
simply to his comments.

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I don't know how often.

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He does go to Camp David
with some regularity,

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but I'm not sure how
often he's done that.

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The Press:
Is there a photograph
of him doing it?

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Mr. Carney:
There may be, but
I haven't seen it.

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The Press:
Why haven't we heard
about it before?

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Mr. Carney:
Because when he
goes to Camp David,

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he goes to spend time with his
family and friends and relax,

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not to produce photographs.

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The Press:
Jay.

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Mr. Carney:
Yes, Major and then Wendell.

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The Press:
There were weekend reports of a
very significant explosion at a

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nuclear facility
in Iran -- Fordow;

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Fordow is the name
of it, near Qom.

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And I wonder if you have
anything that you can relay to

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us about what the U.S.
government does or does not know

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about that.

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And also, there has been a
glitch in trying to get the next

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P5-plus-1 talks with Iran,
try to get it this month now,

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pushing into February.

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Is there anything new you want
to tell us about the evaluation

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of the inability to get
that process moved ahead?

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Mr. Carney:
Sure.

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I appreciate both questions.

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On the first, we have no
information to confirm the

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allegations in that report, and
we do not believe the report

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is credible.

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On the status --

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The Press:
-- of have an
explosion of any kind?

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Mr. Carney:
Correct, at the Fordow facility.

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We don't believe those
are credible reports.

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We have no information that
would confirm them and do not

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believe that those reports
or that report is credible.

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In terms of the P5-plus-1 talks,
let's be clear here that Iran

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did not accept the P5-plus-1
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The P5-plus-1 have offered
concrete dates and venues since

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December and have shown
flexibility regarding a date and

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venue, but Iran -- not
for the first time --

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has been continually putting
forward new conditions as a

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delaying tactic.

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And the negotiations about
negotiations is a familiar

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tactic that only results in
further isolation and more

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pressure on Iran.

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So it's not -- it will
not achieve anything.

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We have, however -- though there
is still no agreement on the

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next round of talks,
contacts are ongoing.

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And since Iran did not accept
the offer to go to Istanbul on

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January 28 and 29, the
P5-plus-1 have offered new dates

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in February.

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But let's be clear, negotiating
over negotiations is not a

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tactic that produces
positive results for Iran;

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it only results in more
isolation and more pressure.

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The Press:
And the President has said from
this podium and other venues

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he's not interested
in that process,

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in allowing it to go
on forever and ever --

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negotiating by negotiating.

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When does this
get to that point?

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Mr. Carney:
Precisely.

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And that's why we're being very
clear with our partners about

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the fact that negotiations have
to be over concrete issues,

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not over further negotiations.

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And we've been
clear about what --

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with our partners, what we're
ready and when we're ready to

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take up these
negotiations again.

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And Iran has to take the
next step and engage.

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The Press:
To get back to immigration, I
know you don't want to negotiate

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specific details, but this
question that has been asked to

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you a couple of times is
not a legislative detail;

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it's a philosophical construct:
coupling or decoupling.

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And from what you've said
from the podium so far today,

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I think those of us listening
could fairly assume the

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administration believes
sufficient progress has been

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made on border security, that
they ought not to be coupled

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directly with the fate of those
who are going to watch this

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debate and whose futures in
this country are dependent on

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this process.

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It's a very significant
issue for them,

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and it sounds as if you're
signaling to the Senate they

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ought not to be coupled because
it's not the issue it was in

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2007 or 2008.

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Is that a fair --

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Mr. Carney:
We have not seen any legislative
proposal from Congress --

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either this group or others --
any new legislative proposal.

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What I have made clear is that
in the four years that the

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President has been in office we
have made historic progress on

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border security.

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And in the past, there have been
those interested in this issue

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who have talked about the need
to take action to enhance our

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border security as part of the
comprehensive immigration effort

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or as a precursor to it.

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And while this President has
always supported moving forward

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in a comprehensive way
on all the elements,

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the fact is because
it's an important issue,

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we have made progress on border
security and historic progress

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in the ways that I
enumerated earlier.

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I am not, as you mentioned, in a
position to negotiate details of

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a piece of legislation
that hasn't been written,

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at least not in Congress.

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The Press:
But you can speak to this
philosophical question of

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coupling or
decoupling, can't you?

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Mr. Carney:
I think the President believes
that we need to move forward in

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a comprehensive way that
includes a path to citizenship,

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that includes making sure
that our businesses behave

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responsibly, that includes
making sure that border security

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continues to be enhanced, and
that includes allowing for a

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situation where some of these
incredibly capable immigrants

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who are earning higher degrees
in our country are allowed to

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stay and create businesses here
and are not sent home to create

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businesses in other countries.

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So this is a multipart process.

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What I'm not going to do is
engage in specific negotiations

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from the podium today.

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There is important progress
being made on this issue in a

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bipartisan way.

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That's a positive thing.

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The President goes to
Nevada tomorrow to have this

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conversation, to continue to
have this conversation with

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Americans who care
deeply about it,

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to explain to them and engage
with them over its importance to

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the economy, its importance
to the middle class,

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importance to our businesses.

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And this will continue.

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And we hope it moves
forward in a quick --

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with speed because there
is no reason to delay.

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We are seeing a
consensus building here.

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We are seeing leading members of
both parties in Congress agree

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to general principles here that
are shared across the board.

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Wendell.

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The Press:
Different subject.

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The Dow Industrial's moving
average has been reported at its

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2007 pre-recession high.

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Standard & Poor's index
got there last Friday,

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as I understand.

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Unemployment obviously
still far too high,

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almost twice as high
as it was at that time.

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What do you say to critics who
say the President's recovery has

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benefited Wall Street
but not Main Street?

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Mr. Carney:
What I would say -- well, first
I would point out that the

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precursor to your question
was noted with no degree of

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surprise, which is that markets
have done very well under

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this President.

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And one of the reasons they
have done well is because this

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President took dramatic action
to ensure that we did not --

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a situation that was
hemorrhaging and cascading

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towards depression was reversed,
that important measures were

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taken to ensure that the
financial sector did

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not collapse.

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And then, against the resistance
of some in Congress --

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resistance that we
encounter to this day --

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he put in place important Wall
Street reform that ensures that

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the kind of situation we
encountered in this country in

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2007, 2008, and 2009
does not happen again --

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where taxpayers are on the
hook to bail out large

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financial institutions.

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So there's a background
here that's very important.

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There is no question that while
we have seen unemployment come

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down, it has not
come down far enough.

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While we have seen month
after month of job creation,

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this President is focused above
all on steps that ensure that we

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create even more jobs and that
this economy continues to grow

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as we recover from the
worst recession since the

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Great Depression.

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This I think goes
to a broader point.

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The President does not
believe that anything we do in

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Washington is worthwhile if
it doesn't have as part of its

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purpose strengthening
our economy,

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strengthening and providing more
security for our middle class,

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and creating more opportunities
for those who want to join the

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middle class to do so.

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That is the underlying principle
behind everything he does when

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it comes to domestic
and economic policy.

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The Press:
It is a fair assessment, though,
that the recovery has benefited

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Wall Street more
than Main Street?

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Mr. Carney:
I think that people can
make their assessments.

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The fact is the economy has been
recovering after a situation

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where it was in
terribly dire straits,

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a situation that this President
inherited in January of 2009.

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And the actions that
he took at the time --

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whether it was the Recovery Act,
saving the financial sector,

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saving the automobile
industry --

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were not particularly popular
at the time in some cases and in

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some quarters, but they were the
right things to do and they were

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the right things to do
for the financial sector,

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but they were also the right
things to do for the middle

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class and for the
American economy.

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The President took the action
he did to ensure the financial

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sector wasn't -- was saved, not
because he thought it was good

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for the banks, but because
collapse of the financial sector

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would have led to an even
greater amount of hardship for

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the middle class, for average
Americans in this country who

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are just trying to get by.

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The Press:
Could it have been possible to
craft a recovery that would have

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benefited the middle class
more than the investors,

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more than Wall Street?

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Mr. Carney:
I'm not an economist, Wendell,
and what I can tell you is that

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having been there -- working
then for the Vice President --

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the efforts to move forward
on the Recovery Act as it was,

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which included, in part because
of insistence by Republicans,

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a third of the Recovery Act
-- a much unnoted fact --

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tax cuts, for example -- and
some of the other actions the

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President took in order to try
to gain bipartisan support.

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I guess the point I'm saying
is the idea that we would have

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somehow garnered more support in
Congress for something different

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is a misreading of history.

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Peter.

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The Press:
Yesterday there was a
devastating fire that tore

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through a nightclub in
Brazil; more than 230 people

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were killed.

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I'm just curious if the
President has been notified or

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is aware of that taking place.

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Mr. Carney:
I don't know specifically,
although he has had his morning

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briefing and I'm sure
this was brought up.

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He also I'm sure
has read about it.

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The Press:
So has he had any
conversation then --

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I guess you wouldn't know --

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Mr. Carney:
With the Brazilian authorities?

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I don't have any
conversations to read out.

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The Press:
In that conversation that
took place in The New Republic

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magazine, the President became
the most high-profile person to

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weigh in on the level of
violence that exists in

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professional football.

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Given that we're one
week to the Super Bowl,

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I'm curious if there's been any
reaction from the NFL or from

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any other professionals
given those comments.

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Mr. Carney:
Not that I'm aware of.

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I think he spoke to
that issue as a father,

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and I think that it's something
that parents across the country

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are grappling with in terms of
whether or not they want their

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children to -- their sons, in
this case, with football --

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to be playing football given
all we know about concussions.

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00:23:02,533 --> 00:23:04,466
The Press:
Giving his opinions on college
basketball playoffs and things

477
00:23:04,467 --> 00:23:07,066
like that, is that something
he would weigh in on further in

478
00:23:07,066 --> 00:23:09,867
terms of trying to find new
outlets to effect change in

479
00:23:09,867 --> 00:23:12,200
terms of violence in this sport?

480
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,233
Mr. Carney:
I haven't had that discussion
with him, so I can't say.

481
00:23:15,233 --> 00:23:18,033
The Press:
Jay, there's a lot of concern in
the Hispanic community that the

482
00:23:18,033 --> 00:23:22,033
old might be separated from
the young with this sort of

483
00:23:22,033 --> 00:23:25,600
expedited process of getting
the children of immigrants,

484
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,867
illegal immigrants,
fast-tracked on citizenship.

485
00:23:28,867 --> 00:23:31,399
How does the President
suggest you deal with that?

486
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,367
If some of these children are
fast-tracked and their parents

487
00:23:34,367 --> 00:23:36,433
might be torn and
sent back home,

488
00:23:36,433 --> 00:23:39,400
how do you deal
with that situation?

489
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,066
Mr. Carney:
Well, I'm not sure the
second part is accurate.

490
00:23:42,066 --> 00:23:45,033
Obviously, I think any process
that's envisioned here in terms

491
00:23:45,033 --> 00:23:48,899
of a path to citizenship -- that
if people follow the rules to

492
00:23:48,900 --> 00:23:49,900
achieve that, they
would be on that path.

493
00:23:49,900 --> 00:23:51,600
So there's not a --

494
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,033
The Press:
But how do you ensure that
the parents and the children

495
00:23:55,033 --> 00:23:56,033
aren't separated?

496
00:23:56,033 --> 00:23:58,567
If the kids are fast-tracked --

497
00:23:58,567 --> 00:24:00,600
Mr. Carney:
I think you're getting
into a broad --

498
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,265
you're asking a broad question
that goes to specifics here that

499
00:24:03,266 --> 00:24:05,834
aren't necessarily
reflected in the question.

500
00:24:05,834 --> 00:24:07,967
The Press:
But is there thought
given to how you deal --

501
00:24:07,967 --> 00:24:10,333
it's a big concern in the
Hispanic community that some of

502
00:24:10,333 --> 00:24:11,834
these kids, a significant
number of them,

503
00:24:11,834 --> 00:24:13,133
might be separated
from their parents.

504
00:24:13,133 --> 00:24:14,834
What's the thought that
the President has in

505
00:24:14,834 --> 00:24:16,133
dealing with that?

506
00:24:16,133 --> 00:24:18,266
Mr. Carney:
Well, I think you heard the
President talk about the

507
00:24:18,266 --> 00:24:20,567
importance of so-called
DREAMers, DREAM Act children.

508
00:24:20,567 --> 00:24:22,900
I think it was reflected in the
legislation that he put forward.

509
00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:27,066
It's been reflected in the
blueprint that he has put

510
00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:29,533
forward and that is
available on WhiteHouse.gov.

511
00:24:29,533 --> 00:24:33,300
And he looks forward to working
with Congress on legislation

512
00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:35,332
that addresses this broad
principle that, again,

513
00:24:35,333 --> 00:24:36,734
seems to have
bipartisan support --

514
00:24:36,734 --> 00:24:40,433
that children who are brought to
this country through no fault of

515
00:24:40,433 --> 00:24:46,300
their own, who have been
often raised as Americans,

516
00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:49,767
thinking that they're Americans,
often don't speak the language

517
00:24:49,767 --> 00:24:52,900
of their origin country, that
they should not be punished for

518
00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:54,800
the actions that others took.

519
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,934
So that's a principle that
he's spoken about a lot.

520
00:24:58,934 --> 00:25:02,000
It's a principle embodied in the
blueprint that he's put forward

521
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,667
and that we believe is one
that's shared by members

522
00:25:04,667 --> 00:25:05,667
of Congress.

523
00:25:05,667 --> 00:25:08,466
The Press:
And the visa overstay program,
that appears to be sort of a new

524
00:25:08,467 --> 00:25:09,934
mechanism they're
trying to put in place.

525
00:25:09,934 --> 00:25:10,934
Is that correct?

526
00:25:10,934 --> 00:25:13,899
Mr. Carney:
I'm just not going to get into
details of legislation that

527
00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:16,266
hasn't been put
forward or worked out.

528
00:25:16,266 --> 00:25:20,467
I think that today is important
because of the progress that the

529
00:25:20,467 --> 00:25:23,800
bipartisan group's
efforts represent.

530
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,667
The fact that those priorities
and principles that they put

531
00:25:26,667 --> 00:25:29,833
forward mirror what the
President has long stood for and

532
00:25:29,834 --> 00:25:34,967
put forward represents the
opportunity that is at hand here

533
00:25:34,967 --> 00:25:37,433
and that the President hopes
we can move forward and take

534
00:25:37,433 --> 00:25:38,433
advantage of.

535
00:25:38,433 --> 00:25:40,767
The Press:
And on another topic, Jay, has
the President expressed any

536
00:25:40,767 --> 00:25:44,734
concern that Lance Armstrong
may have used his influence in

537
00:25:44,734 --> 00:25:48,667
Washington on Capitol Hill with
D.C. insiders to possibly get

538
00:25:48,667 --> 00:25:52,433
the attorney general in Southern
California to drop his case?

539
00:25:52,433 --> 00:25:57,266
It's something that ABC News is
hearing may have been the case.

540
00:25:57,266 --> 00:25:58,266
Mr. Carney:
About the President?

541
00:25:58,266 --> 00:25:59,533
I haven't had that discussion
with the President.

542
00:25:59,533 --> 00:26:03,132
The President I think has spoken
out in the past about his views

543
00:26:03,133 --> 00:26:08,533
on performance-enhancing drugs.

544
00:26:08,533 --> 00:26:10,667
But I haven't heard him
talk about this specific --

545
00:26:10,667 --> 00:26:11,899
The Press:
Does he feel there
should be pressure,

546
00:26:11,900 --> 00:26:14,633
that the DOJ should do
something more beyond --

547
00:26:14,633 --> 00:26:15,867
Mr. Carney:
I don't have anything
for you on that.

548
00:26:15,867 --> 00:26:18,600
And I wouldn't weigh in on
anything before the Department

549
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:19,600
of Justice.

550
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:20,934
Yes, Margaret.

551
00:26:20,934 --> 00:26:24,767
The Press:
I heard you very clearly say
that you didn't want to get into

552
00:26:24,767 --> 00:26:26,533
negotiating legislation --

553
00:26:26,533 --> 00:26:27,399
Mr. Carney:
But you can try.

554
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,867
(laughter)

555
00:26:28,867 --> 00:26:31,300
The Press:
It's nice to make
you smile and wink.

556
00:26:31,300 --> 00:26:34,332
What I want to ask you is
a non-negotiating question.

557
00:26:34,333 --> 00:26:38,734
It is just simply if the Senate
were to pass the legislation as

558
00:26:38,734 --> 00:26:42,466
it's been described in concept,
would the President sign it?

559
00:26:42,467 --> 00:26:44,166
Mr. Carney:
But there is no legislation
described in concept.

560
00:26:44,166 --> 00:26:47,633
It's a set of principles
that mirror the

561
00:26:47,633 --> 00:26:50,967
President's principles.

562
00:26:50,967 --> 00:26:54,800
But this is the
beginning of a process,

563
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,033
at least in terms of legislation
that needs to be crafted and

564
00:26:59,033 --> 00:27:01,300
voted on and hopefully
signed by the President.

565
00:27:01,300 --> 00:27:06,000
So to say that he would sign
something that doesn't exist

566
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,934
would be unwise, in my
view, and so I won't say it.

567
00:27:08,934 --> 00:27:11,700
Let's just say the President
has been very clear about what

568
00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:12,700
he supports.

569
00:27:12,700 --> 00:27:14,834
He's been very detailed in the
blueprint that he's put forward.

570
00:27:14,834 --> 00:27:18,633
He is encouraged by the progress
we have seen from members of

571
00:27:18,633 --> 00:27:21,200
both parties in the Senate and
looks forward to working with

572
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,033
members of both parties to
reach a point in the hopefully

573
00:27:25,033 --> 00:27:28,033
not-too-distant future where we
have a bill that has bipartisan

574
00:27:28,033 --> 00:27:31,367
support that is very specific
and that he can sign because it

575
00:27:31,367 --> 00:27:32,533
meets his principles.

576
00:27:32,533 --> 00:27:33,632
The Press:
But in terms of
weighing in on support,

577
00:27:33,633 --> 00:27:36,266
he would wait to see any
legislation before he would?

578
00:27:36,266 --> 00:27:37,834
Mr. Carney:
Well, I'm sure he wouldn't
promise to sign a bill that

579
00:27:37,834 --> 00:27:39,633
doesn't exist.

580
00:27:39,633 --> 00:27:43,133
The Press:
I want to ask one
more on Egypt as well.

581
00:27:43,133 --> 00:27:45,934
Can you tell us whether the
President has spoken with Morsi

582
00:27:45,934 --> 00:27:47,899
since the last few
days of violence began?

583
00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:49,934
I know we don't
have a readout yet,

584
00:27:49,934 --> 00:27:51,633
but I know he has made
some foreign leader calls.

585
00:27:51,633 --> 00:27:54,166
We saw a call with
Netanyahu read out today.

586
00:27:54,166 --> 00:27:57,899
Mr. Carney:
He has not spoken with President
Morsi that I'm aware of.

587
00:27:57,900 --> 00:28:01,834
I don't have any new
calls to read out to you.

588
00:28:01,834 --> 00:28:04,500
We are always engaged with
the government of Egypt at

589
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:07,900
appropriate levels, but I just
don't have any communications to

590
00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:08,900
read out to you.

591
00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:10,066
You could check with the
State Department for more.

592
00:28:10,066 --> 00:28:12,367
The Press:
I'm hoping you could flesh
out a little bit what sort

593
00:28:12,367 --> 00:28:13,367
of communications.

594
00:28:13,367 --> 00:28:15,233
Things really have changed
and worsened in the last four

595
00:28:15,233 --> 00:28:16,233
or five days.

596
00:28:16,233 --> 00:28:19,166
Mr. Carney:
I would have to refer you to
State for any communications

597
00:28:19,166 --> 00:28:22,000
we've had -- our government
has had with the government of

598
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,200
Egypt in the last several days.

599
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,066
The Press:
You said that the
President condemns --

600
00:28:26,066 --> 00:28:28,467
that the U.S. condemns the
violence that's gone on

601
00:28:28,467 --> 00:28:29,467
in Egypt.

602
00:28:29,467 --> 00:28:33,567
Do you condemn any of President
Morsi's actions as sort of cause

603
00:28:33,567 --> 00:28:36,767
and effect of that violence,
or do you support this level of

604
00:28:36,767 --> 00:28:38,500
emergency rule and how
he's handled things so far?

605
00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:41,266
Mr. Carney:
We look to the government of
Egypt to adhere to the right of

606
00:28:41,266 --> 00:28:45,700
all Egyptians to
have due process.

607
00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:51,734
There needs to be a lasting
solution to the conflict that we

608
00:28:51,734 --> 00:28:55,533
see in Egypt and it has to be
a solution that adheres to the

609
00:28:55,533 --> 00:28:56,533
rights of all Egyptians.

610
00:28:56,533 --> 00:29:00,265
Obviously, this is not
a lasting solution.

611
00:29:00,266 --> 00:29:03,300
But beyond that, I'd refer
you to the State Department.

612
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:09,800
Our interest is in -- we welcome
calls for a national dialogue.

613
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:15,966
We call on all Egyptians to
express themselves peacefully,

614
00:29:15,967 --> 00:29:20,834
and to make clear that
violence is not acceptable.

615
00:29:20,834 --> 00:29:23,200
We call on all leaders
-- all leaders --

616
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,266
in Egypt to make that clear.

617
00:29:25,266 --> 00:29:31,333
So our broader effort here is to
support a process that leads to

618
00:29:31,333 --> 00:29:35,066
greater democracy in Egypt
and greater prosperity.

619
00:29:35,066 --> 00:29:37,500
The Press:
Jay, at the top of the meeting
with the police chiefs,

620
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:41,734
the President said he hoped to
get a consensus from them that

621
00:29:41,734 --> 00:29:43,867
would translate into
a message to Congress.

622
00:29:43,867 --> 00:29:47,265
Did he get some kind of a
concerted message from them?

623
00:29:47,266 --> 00:29:52,000
And what guidance did they --
especially the chiefs from the

624
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,934
cities that have seen the
mass shootings -- give him?

625
00:29:54,934 --> 00:29:56,600
Mr. Carney:
I don't have a specific
readout of that meeting,

626
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,734
which ended shortly before
I came out here for you.

627
00:30:00,734 --> 00:30:01,800
It was a productive meeting.

628
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:02,800
It was an important meeting.

629
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:08,667
The President obviously believes
that law enforcement plays an

630
00:30:08,667 --> 00:30:12,033
important role in discussions
about how to move forward to

631
00:30:12,033 --> 00:30:13,533
reduce gun violence.

632
00:30:13,533 --> 00:30:17,567
We may have more for you
on the meeting later today.

633
00:30:17,567 --> 00:30:21,700
But this is -- I think reflects
the President's commitment to

634
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:26,200
engage with all stakeholders
on this important issue,

635
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,533
and I know that today's
meeting was very important in

636
00:30:28,533 --> 00:30:29,533
that regard.

637
00:30:29,533 --> 00:30:31,065
The Press:
What's the next step?

638
00:30:31,066 --> 00:30:35,500
Mr. Carney:
Well, the President -- I will
not announce a new meeting

639
00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:37,867
today, but you can be sure the
President will continue to meet

640
00:30:37,867 --> 00:30:38,867
on this issue.

641
00:30:38,867 --> 00:30:40,433
The Vice President will
obviously continue to meet on

642
00:30:40,433 --> 00:30:41,433
this issue.

643
00:30:41,433 --> 00:30:43,033
And he will continue
-- he, the President --

644
00:30:43,033 --> 00:30:47,166
will continue to press for
progress on legislative action,

645
00:30:47,166 --> 00:30:49,800
as well as the other actions
that were contained within his

646
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,667
broad set of proposals
from two weeks ago.

647
00:30:54,667 --> 00:30:56,833
Mr. Landler, and then Zach.

648
00:30:56,834 --> 00:30:57,834
The Press:
Thanks, Jay.

649
00:30:57,834 --> 00:30:59,300
In his interview with
the New Republic,

650
00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:03,265
the President was reflecting
on the challenges of making a

651
00:31:03,266 --> 00:31:05,900
decision on whether
to intervene in Syria,

652
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:09,567
and he went through a number of
different criteria and then made

653
00:31:09,567 --> 00:31:12,300
the observation that tens of
thousands of people are dying in

654
00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:15,265
other places, including Congo.

655
00:31:15,266 --> 00:31:18,300
A few people in the human rights
community were stopped by this

656
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:20,800
and observed that,
well, for one thing,

657
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,466
the scale of the killing in
Syria is so much greater right

658
00:31:25,467 --> 00:31:28,500
now than anywhere else in
the world; and secondly,

659
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:31,433
that Syria poses so many
more strategic issues --

660
00:31:31,433 --> 00:31:32,967
it's in the heart
of the Arab world,

661
00:31:32,967 --> 00:31:35,667
it borders a number
of critical countries.

662
00:31:35,667 --> 00:31:38,766
So I guess I just wanted to
press a little and ask whether

663
00:31:38,767 --> 00:31:42,033
he really does believe that
Congo is in any way analogous to

664
00:31:42,033 --> 00:31:43,734
Syria in terms of what
American interests are.

665
00:31:43,734 --> 00:31:45,466
Mr. Carney:
I think you're
over-reading what he said.

666
00:31:45,467 --> 00:31:48,233
I think the point he was making
is that there is horrific

667
00:31:48,233 --> 00:31:51,033
violence in other parts of the
world and in other countries

668
00:31:51,033 --> 00:31:52,033
besides Syria.

669
00:31:52,033 --> 00:31:55,367
There is no question -- and we
have been abundantly clear in

670
00:31:55,367 --> 00:32:00,500
our abhorrence -- about the
violence in Syria and in the

671
00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:05,934
very strong position that we've
taken that Assad has to go,

672
00:32:05,934 --> 00:32:10,033
that his days are numbered, and
that he will go down in history

673
00:32:10,033 --> 00:32:15,065
as a tyrant with an abundance
of Syrian blood on his hands.

674
00:32:15,066 --> 00:32:16,066
I think we've seen the
opposition in Syria make

675
00:32:16,066 --> 00:32:17,066
continued progress.

676
00:32:17,066 --> 00:32:23,233
I think we've seen Assad's
grip on power in Syria continue

677
00:32:23,233 --> 00:32:25,300
to lessen.

678
00:32:25,300 --> 00:32:27,899
We continue to take steps with
our partners to provide both

679
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:31,467
humanitarian aid and non-lethal
assistance to the opposition,

680
00:32:31,467 --> 00:32:37,867
and to work with our partners
to help bring about a post-Assad

681
00:32:37,867 --> 00:32:43,433
Syria that reflects the
will of the Syrian people,

682
00:32:43,433 --> 00:32:46,433
because the right outcome here
is for the Syrians to decide

683
00:32:46,433 --> 00:32:47,967
their own future.

684
00:32:47,967 --> 00:32:50,767
The Press:
And then, if I may,
on one other topic --

685
00:32:50,767 --> 00:32:54,367
in that readout that you put
out a little while ago about his

686
00:32:54,367 --> 00:32:55,767
call with Prime
Minister Netanyahu,

687
00:32:55,767 --> 00:32:58,533
he congratulated him for winning
a plurality in the election.

688
00:32:58,533 --> 00:33:01,367
Does the President feel with
the political season finished in

689
00:33:01,367 --> 00:33:04,533
Israel -- I guess we still
have the maneuvering around a

690
00:33:04,533 --> 00:33:06,300
coalition -- but with
the election now history,

691
00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:08,265
the election in
the U.S. history,

692
00:33:08,266 --> 00:33:12,533
that this would be a good time
to reset the relationship with

693
00:33:12,533 --> 00:33:15,734
the President and
the Prime Minister?

694
00:33:15,734 --> 00:33:19,667
Mr. Carney:
Mark, as I've said in the past,
it's important to understand

695
00:33:19,667 --> 00:33:25,065
two things: One, this country's
commitment to Israel's security

696
00:33:25,066 --> 00:33:30,100
is unshakeable, and it has
been reflected in this

697
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:33,600
administration's commitment
to Israel's security,

698
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,699
demonstrated by the very
specific actions that are

699
00:33:36,700 --> 00:33:40,233
unprecedented that have been
taken by this administration on

700
00:33:40,233 --> 00:33:41,367
behalf of Israel's security.

701
00:33:41,367 --> 00:33:44,600
It is also the case that in his
first four years as President,

702
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,265
there is no leader with whom
President Obama had more

703
00:33:49,266 --> 00:33:52,633
conversations or more meetings
than Prime Minister Netanyahu.

704
00:33:52,633 --> 00:33:56,367
They have an important
working relationship,

705
00:33:56,367 --> 00:34:02,233
and that will continue to be the
case, the President believes.

706
00:34:02,233 --> 00:34:04,800
I don't want to get ahead of
a process in Israel where,

707
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,332
while the elections may
be over, there is --

708
00:34:07,333 --> 00:34:09,433
as you know, as an
expert in the area --

709
00:34:09,433 --> 00:34:11,233
there are several
stages to this process,

710
00:34:11,233 --> 00:34:14,800
in the post-election process in
Israel and we will wait to see

711
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,767
what the government
formation process produces.

712
00:34:17,766 --> 00:34:23,866
But these two leaders have spent
a great deal of time together.

713
00:34:23,867 --> 00:34:28,166
They've spoken together many
times and they are able to work

714
00:34:28,166 --> 00:34:30,300
together and will
continue to work together.

715
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:31,300
The Press:
Was the call warm?

716
00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:32,300
Can you characterize at all?

717
00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:35,133
Mr. Carney:
Well, it was a congratulatory
call so I think that's fair

718
00:34:35,132 --> 00:34:41,466
to say, yes.

719
00:34:41,467 --> 00:34:43,667
The Press:
On the sequestration,
in just about a month,

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00:34:43,667 --> 00:34:47,065
deep cuts to spending are set
to occur and we've heard little

721
00:34:47,065 --> 00:34:48,132
about it recently.

722
00:34:48,132 --> 00:34:51,966
Obviously, the White House has
a plan or idea for what it would

723
00:34:51,967 --> 00:34:55,367
like to do to replace that, but
can you talk a little bit about

724
00:34:55,367 --> 00:34:58,467
are you expecting to
stop sequestration?

725
00:34:58,467 --> 00:35:02,166
Are there discussions beginning
to -- about how to do that?

726
00:35:02,166 --> 00:35:04,400
Mr. Carney:
The President believes that
we need to move forward with

727
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,166
Congress to further reduce our
deficits in a balanced way and

728
00:35:09,166 --> 00:35:12,367
he's put forward very
specific proposals to do that,

729
00:35:12,367 --> 00:35:15,233
proposals that demonstrate a
willingness to meet Republicans

730
00:35:15,233 --> 00:35:16,500
more than halfway.

731
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:20,567
And that remains his
position and his view.

732
00:35:20,567 --> 00:35:24,066
On sequestration, I think it's
important to remember that it

733
00:35:24,066 --> 00:35:26,567
was designed never
to become law.

734
00:35:26,567 --> 00:35:31,200
It was made onerous for
all sides for a reason.

735
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,899
These kinds of across-the-board
cuts to both defense and

736
00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:39,800
non-defense spending are not
supported by virtually anyone in

737
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,166
Washington and certainly
not the President,

738
00:35:43,166 --> 00:35:45,800
and to judge by their many
statements along these lines,

739
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,800
not Republican
leaders in Congress.

740
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,500
So we believe that the right
course of action is to take

741
00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:56,400
steps to make sure that
sequester doesn't happen because

742
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:03,333
it's bad for the economy and bad
overall for the effort to reduce

743
00:36:03,333 --> 00:36:05,667
our deficits in
a reasonable way,

744
00:36:05,667 --> 00:36:11,700
to cut spending in a careful way
so that we allow those programs

745
00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:15,232
that help enhance our economic
growth and help enhance our job

746
00:36:15,233 --> 00:36:19,767
creation to be properly funded,
but reduce spending where

747
00:36:19,767 --> 00:36:22,033
appropriate so that we can
help bring down our deficits --

748
00:36:22,033 --> 00:36:24,033
more broadly, to do it in
a way that's balanced that

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00:36:24,033 --> 00:36:26,000
includes revenues.

750
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,266
One thing we don't hear often
these days in some of these

751
00:36:29,266 --> 00:36:32,734
discussions is that while the
President put forward very

752
00:36:32,734 --> 00:36:37,200
specific proposals that met the
Republicans halfway and that the

753
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,332
Republicans walked away from
that effort, unfortunately,

754
00:36:39,333 --> 00:36:42,100
at the end of the
year, at one point,

755
00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:46,834
House Speaker John Boehner
said that he could achieve $800

756
00:36:46,834 --> 00:36:50,633
billion in revenue simply
by eliminating loopholes and

757
00:36:50,633 --> 00:36:51,700
capping deductions.

758
00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:52,700
Now, we certainly would be
surprised if it's their position

759
00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:58,200
now that those deductions don't
need to be capped and those

760
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,466
loopholes don't
need to be closed,

761
00:36:59,467 --> 00:37:02,200
because some of those loopholes
I think most American people

762
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,667
would believe are highly
unnecessary and unfair.

763
00:37:05,667 --> 00:37:10,933
So we think we can move together
with Congress to continue on the

764
00:37:10,934 --> 00:37:13,867
work that is achieved already
-- $2.5 trillion in deficit

765
00:37:13,867 --> 00:37:16,867
reduction -- and do
it in a balanced way.

766
00:37:16,867 --> 00:37:18,667
And the President has
put forward specifics to

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00:37:18,667 --> 00:37:19,667
do just that.

768
00:37:19,667 --> 00:37:20,667
The Press:
Are there any --

769
00:37:20,667 --> 00:37:21,667
Mr. Carney:
I don't have any
meetings to announce.

770
00:37:21,667 --> 00:37:24,266
I don't have any specifics
to provide to you.

771
00:37:24,266 --> 00:37:26,633
But we believe that
this needs to happen,

772
00:37:26,633 --> 00:37:29,165
and we look forward to working
with Congress to make it happen.

773
00:37:29,166 --> 00:37:30,166
The Press:
Just one other quick question.

774
00:37:30,166 --> 00:37:32,533
You mentioned earlier that the
President's top priority it job

775
00:37:32,533 --> 00:37:34,900
creation, supporting
the middle class.

776
00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:37,767
Does the President currently
have any proposals on the table

777
00:37:37,767 --> 00:37:41,399
that he's planning to
advocate for soon to do that?

778
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:46,433
Mr. Carney:
Well, first of all, the
President's proposal that he put

779
00:37:46,433 --> 00:37:49,400
forward to Speaker of the House
Boehner at the end of the year

780
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,600
is a deficit reduction proposal
that was designed to ensure that

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00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:54,967
we continue economic growth.

782
00:37:54,967 --> 00:37:58,433
Remember, what people forget
in the shorthand that it was

783
00:37:58,433 --> 00:38:03,000
written about and talked about
at the end of the year is that

784
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,633
avoiding sequester plus the tax
hikes that would have occurred

785
00:38:05,633 --> 00:38:08,700
if we hadn't taken action was
a way of avoiding too much

786
00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:12,100
contraction, too much
deficit reduction at once,

787
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:13,366
because it would
have potentially,

788
00:38:13,367 --> 00:38:15,033
at least according
to some analyses,

789
00:38:15,033 --> 00:38:16,633
thrown us into recession.

790
00:38:16,633 --> 00:38:22,799
So the President's plan ensures
that we would continue to reduce

791
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,166
our deficit in a way that
allows our economy to grow and

792
00:38:25,166 --> 00:38:26,166
create jobs.

793
00:38:26,166 --> 00:38:27,166
So that would be number one.

794
00:38:27,166 --> 00:38:32,367
The President believes that
action on immigration reform is,

795
00:38:32,367 --> 00:38:34,967
done right, helpful
to our economy,

796
00:38:34,967 --> 00:38:36,633
increases fairness
to our middle class,

797
00:38:36,633 --> 00:38:38,633
ensures that everybody is
playing by the same set of

798
00:38:38,633 --> 00:38:42,500
rules, makes a level playing
field for our businesses because

799
00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:45,000
it holds them responsible in
terms of how they deal with

800
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,000
these issues.

801
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,567
These are all -- would be
healthy for our economy and

802
00:38:48,567 --> 00:38:50,834
healthy for job creation.

803
00:38:50,834 --> 00:38:55,633
Everything that he does on the
domestic side of the ledger is

804
00:38:55,633 --> 00:38:59,933
viewed through the prism of how
does it help the economy grow,

805
00:38:59,934 --> 00:39:02,233
how does it help create jobs.

806
00:39:02,233 --> 00:39:03,767
The Press:
When you talk about
cooperation, Jay,

807
00:39:03,767 --> 00:39:06,100
there's plenty of evidence
that an immigration bill would

808
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:07,933
improve conditions for the
working-class people who

809
00:39:07,934 --> 00:39:10,533
supported the President in
terms of wages and chances of

810
00:39:10,533 --> 00:39:11,533
getting jobs.

811
00:39:11,533 --> 00:39:14,033
The plan does call for the
importation of more than 10

812
00:39:14,033 --> 00:39:16,000
million low-scaled
people at a time where --

813
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,266
Mr. Carney:
I appreciate your
interpretation of the plan,

814
00:39:18,266 --> 00:39:20,667
but the President does
believe, if done well,

815
00:39:20,667 --> 00:39:24,133
if done right in the way that
meets both the principles

816
00:39:24,133 --> 00:39:27,466
currently put forward by the
bipartisan group in the Senate

817
00:39:27,467 --> 00:39:29,767
and, more specifically, the
principles the President has put

818
00:39:29,767 --> 00:39:33,100
forward and supported, that
it will help our economy grow,

819
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:36,266
help make it more fair,
and help the middle class.

820
00:39:36,266 --> 00:39:37,433
The Press:
What about wages
and job competition?

821
00:39:37,433 --> 00:39:40,867
Mr. Carney:
Alexis, I think I
called on you next here.

822
00:39:40,867 --> 00:39:42,967
The Press:
I have some questions
-- sorry, Niall.

823
00:39:42,967 --> 00:39:44,767
This question is a simple one.

824
00:39:44,767 --> 00:39:48,866
Can you just illuminate why the
President is going all the way

825
00:39:48,867 --> 00:39:52,500
to Nevada, where he could go
to Florida or New York to talk

826
00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:53,500
about immigration?

827
00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:55,734
I mean, what's the -- why?

828
00:39:55,734 --> 00:39:56,734
Mr. Carney:
Why not?

829
00:39:56,734 --> 00:39:58,400
I mean, Nevada is
an important state.

830
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,266
Every state has a stake in this
and I'm sure he will travel

831
00:40:02,266 --> 00:40:04,333
elsewhere to talk about
this important issue,

832
00:40:04,333 --> 00:40:07,000
as well as talk about
it here in Washington.

833
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,233
So the President looks forward
very much to going to Nevada.

834
00:40:10,233 --> 00:40:12,367
The Press:
But there's nothing unique to
the setting that he will bring

835
00:40:12,367 --> 00:40:14,900
into his speech specifically
about the state?

836
00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:15,900
Is the state emblematic --

837
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:18,800
Mr. Carney:
Well, I don't want to preview
his remarks, but I think --

838
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,367
I will just ask
you to stay tuned.

839
00:40:22,367 --> 00:40:23,367
The Press:
Okay.

840
00:40:23,367 --> 00:40:25,567
Second question is, over the
weekend there was an article

841
00:40:25,567 --> 00:40:29,200
about the lengths to which the
administration is going to track

842
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,200
down government leakers.

843
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,399
My question is to what extent
does the President want

844
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:38,533
journalists to believe
that technology,

845
00:40:38,533 --> 00:40:40,967
clandestine surveillance will
be used against journalists who

846
00:40:40,967 --> 00:40:43,700
routinely write books or do
articles about national security

847
00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:46,433
in order to work backward
to find the leakers?

848
00:40:46,433 --> 00:40:49,166
Is that part of his plan?

849
00:40:49,166 --> 00:40:52,200
Mr. Carney:
It's part of no plan that
I've heard him discuss.

850
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,399
Laura.

851
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,400
The Press:
Thank you.

852
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,433
Three questions on Mali.

853
00:40:56,433 --> 00:40:57,867
Mr. Carney:
Three?

854
00:40:57,867 --> 00:40:58,867
The Press:
Three.

855
00:40:58,867 --> 00:41:02,100
How does -- the French
took Timbuktu today.

856
00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:05,200
What is the White House
reaction -- the first one.

857
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,667
Second question, how does
the President follow the

858
00:41:08,667 --> 00:41:09,667
Mali situation?

859
00:41:09,667 --> 00:41:12,667
And third question, French
diplomats, since Friday,

860
00:41:12,667 --> 00:41:16,366
are telling us that the United
States is asking the French to

861
00:41:16,367 --> 00:41:19,400
pay $20 million for
the air support.

862
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,900
What can you tell us about that?

863
00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:24,500
Mr. Carney:
Well, I would refer you
to the State Department.

864
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:26,333
I don't know about
that last report.

865
00:41:26,333 --> 00:41:28,967
I think you know that President
Obama spoke with President

866
00:41:28,967 --> 00:41:30,100
Hollande on Friday.

867
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:32,633
The United States is continuing
to support international

868
00:41:32,633 --> 00:41:34,633
military action in Mali.

869
00:41:34,633 --> 00:41:37,200
We are also working to
quicken development of --

870
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,000
or rather deployment of African
troops that will compose the

871
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,800
African-led international
support mission to Mali.

872
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,166
As announced over the weekend
by the Department of Defense,

873
00:41:46,166 --> 00:41:49,133
U.S. Africa Command will
support the French military by

874
00:41:49,133 --> 00:41:52,299
conducting aerial refueling
missions as operations in

875
00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:53,300
Mali continue.

876
00:41:53,300 --> 00:41:56,533
We are also continuing to share
information with the French and

877
00:41:56,533 --> 00:41:58,433
have been assisting with the
transport of some of their

878
00:41:58,433 --> 00:42:00,467
personnel and equipment to Mali.

879
00:42:00,467 --> 00:42:04,934
In response to the first part of
your question and progress that

880
00:42:04,934 --> 00:42:08,033
has been made, we obviously
support the French effort.

881
00:42:08,033 --> 00:42:11,200
We support the French goal of
denying terrorists a safe haven

882
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,767
in the region, and we support
the French operation --

883
00:42:13,767 --> 00:42:16,567
as evidenced by the cooperation
that I just discussed.

884
00:42:16,567 --> 00:42:19,233
We call for swift implementation
of the U.N. Security Council

885
00:42:19,233 --> 00:42:22,600
Resolution 2085 to restore
stability throughout Mali.

886
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,366
It is also imperative that the
transitional government of Mali

887
00:42:26,367 --> 00:42:29,400
present a political road map
for a return to democratic

888
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,734
governments --
governance rather --

889
00:42:30,734 --> 00:42:33,866
and negotiations with groups
that reject terrorism and accept

890
00:42:33,867 --> 00:42:35,767
a unified Mali.

891
00:42:35,767 --> 00:42:37,332
Donovan.

892
00:42:37,333 --> 00:42:39,233
The Press:
Just a quick one, Jay.

893
00:42:39,233 --> 00:42:44,100
The Boy Scouts of America are
currently considering repealing

894
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:46,200
their ban on gays.

895
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,834
And I was wondering -- I think
they're planning an announcement

896
00:42:48,834 --> 00:42:50,033
this afternoon,
according to reports.

897
00:42:50,033 --> 00:42:53,232
I was wondering if the President
or you had heard of this and

898
00:42:53,233 --> 00:42:55,734
what his thoughts
might be on that.

899
00:42:55,734 --> 00:42:59,799
Mr. Carney:
I have not heard that, so why
don't we wait until we hear

900
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,000
something concrete.

901
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,000
The Press:
Thanks, Jay.

902
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,000
Mr. Carney:
All the way in the
back, last one.

903
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,000
Yes.

904
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,000
The Press:
Thank you.

905
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,767
Jay, can you tell me if the
President is aware of the

906
00:43:06,767 --> 00:43:10,066
eight-year prison sentence that
was imposed against the pastor

907
00:43:10,066 --> 00:43:11,533
Saeed Abedini in Iran?

908
00:43:11,533 --> 00:43:15,967
And also, given the U.S. -- or
the lack of diplomatic relations

909
00:43:15,967 --> 00:43:20,367
the U.S. has with Iran, what --
realistically, what can the U.S.

910
00:43:20,367 --> 00:43:24,400
do, what can the administration
do in this case and other

911
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,500
cases like it?

912
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:28,367
Should his family have any hope
that there's anything the U.S.

913
00:43:28,367 --> 00:43:30,967
can do to help in
this situation?

914
00:43:30,967 --> 00:43:33,567
Mr. Carney:
Well, we are deeply disappointed
that Saeed Abedini has been

915
00:43:33,567 --> 00:43:36,200
sentenced to eight years in
prison in Iran on a charge

916
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,767
related to his
religious beliefs.

917
00:43:37,767 --> 00:43:41,667
Mr. Abedini's attorney had only
one day to present his defense,

918
00:43:41,667 --> 00:43:44,866
so we remain deeply concerned
about the fairness and

919
00:43:44,867 --> 00:43:46,266
transparency of his trial.

920
00:43:46,266 --> 00:43:49,066
We condemn Iran's continued
violation of the universal right

921
00:43:49,066 --> 00:43:52,399
of freedom of religion, and we
call on the Iranian authorities

922
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,633
to release Mr. Abedini.

923
00:43:54,633 --> 00:43:56,799
As you know, the State
Department is in close contact

924
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,900
with the Abedini family and is
actively engaged on this case.

925
00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:03,834
For further details, I think
the State Department is the best

926
00:44:03,834 --> 00:44:04,834
place to go.

927
00:44:04,834 --> 00:44:07,332
We obviously have a variety of
means, including this podium,

928
00:44:07,333 --> 00:44:12,200
to express our views
on matters like this,

929
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,834
and we are very concerned about
this and very concerned about

930
00:44:15,834 --> 00:44:17,734
the process that led to this.

931
00:44:17,734 --> 00:44:18,567
Thank you all very much.

932
00:44:18,567 --> 00:44:21,767
The Press:
I just had a quick question
-- the only measure that the

933
00:44:21,767 --> 00:44:24,834
President mentioned in
his speech was H-1B visas,

934
00:44:24,834 --> 00:44:27,366
and I'm wondering if he would
support a stand-alone bill that

935
00:44:27,367 --> 00:44:28,600
would expand those.

936
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:29,533
Mr. Carney:
The President
supports comprehensive

937
00:44:29,533 --> 00:44:30,866
immigration reform.

938
00:44:30,867 --> 00:44:31,834
Thank you very much.